/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.6784903]

who else unironically /dyingofstress/ here?

I can't take this anymore /biz/. How do you manage with the stress? I can't stop staring at charts constantly, watching my portfolio bleed out. I barley sleep anymore. I set alarms so I am only sleeping for an hour at a time because I dont want to be away from my computer for any longer. A few days ago I noticed my hair was falling out in the shower. Today I fucking threw up blood.

During the last crash I was so stressed I ground my teeth so much that I have partial lockjaw so I can barely eat anything because I can't open my mouth, so I've been living off meal replacement shakes. And now its crashing again. I CAN'T TAKE THIS, BUT I NEED IT TO WORK. YOU DONT UNDERSTAND, I AM ALL IN ON THIS. ALL IN. Tell me its not over /biz/, please. If this keeps going I honestly think I might die, I can barley stay conscious as it is already.

Does anyone else know this feel?

[Anonymous No.6784920]

>>6784903
Smoke weed

[Anonymous No.6784936]

>>6784903
yes

havent done anything but staring at charts for the last month

[Anonymous No.6784951]

Stop caring about money

[Anonymous No.6784960]

I was stressing from day trading so I'm going into some mid term holds. I 10xd from day trading for two months but the stress is killer and if I had held I would have made as much or more in that same time.

[Anonymous No.6784965]

>>6784903
How long have you been in the crypto game. Think it gets better after maybe a few months and after you're sitting on a cushion big enough to not have to worry (since you're only losing house money up to a certain point)

[Anonymous No.6784970]

jesus you cunts are weak

[Anonymous No.6784976]

>>6784903
all in on long term holds and then don't think about it for a month. that's my plan anyway. also start smoking

[Anonymous No.6784983]

[Anonymous No.6785047]

>>6784903
You can't control the market, so unless you're planning to make a trade, just realise that it is out of your control and don't look at it for a week. And let's be honest, you'd fuck up a trade anyway so it's for your own good if you just seperate yourself from the graphs. Once you get it into your head that staring at the graphs won't help and that there isn't much you can do but enjoy the ride, you will be happier and find that you can sleep again.

[Anonymous No.6785051]

>barley

lol kys nigger

[Anonymous No.6785066]

>>6784903
you could literally just sell and forget about crypto forever and go back to your normal life. this can be just a phase if you want it to be. for a lot of us, we're in this fucking game all or nothing. and desu, nothing is not much worse than what we currently have

[Anonymoose No.6785092]

>>6784903

Go back to redit captain snowflake.

[Anonymous No.6785105]

weed
xanax
alcohol
vicodin
percocet
hydrocodone
meditation
looking at cute things
petting your dog/cat

[Anonymous No.6785108]

>need to focus on work
>try to ignore portfolio for a couple weeks
>it crashes hard
>happens everytime i try to ignore crypto

[Anonymous No.6785115]

>>6784903
I'm long in quality coins like BNB, KCS and BIX which will only grow with their respective exchanges. The probability that I win big long-term is 99.99%. Literally stress free..

[Anonymous No.6785123]

>>6785047
Graphs aren't hard to read. Trading is easy but you have to be there to make the trades all the time.

[Anonymous No.6785131]

>>6784903
Next time we go on a bull run you need to take some money out. This is what happens when you go all in on a risky investment like an idiot. Stop putting in more than you care to lose.

[Anonymous No.6785162]

>>6784903
I cashed out the majority of my holings, now I use like 20% of what I had on Bitmex to do short term high leverage day trading. its stressfull as fuck, but just on the short term. I can close my trades and go to bed, keep stop losses etc, and the money is less but the reward still high with leverage

[Anonymous No.6785176]

>>6784903
>>6785051

[Anonymous No.6785241]

>>6784903
Weak as fuck. You either invest what you can afford to lose and it's no big deal, or you invest what you can't afford to lose because life's a game and fuck it, see what happens

You chose the option of being a massive pussy

[Anonymous No.6785248]

>>6785105
>turning him into a junkie

Kys

[Anonymous No.6785280]

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Cyber Money Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Walk Away From The Screen Like Nigga Close Your Eyes Haha

[Anonymous No.6785289]

>>6784903
I eat pressure for breakfast
BRING IT ON!

[Anonymous No.6785309]

>>6785241
I have exams right now for engineering and have a lot of my money in this. Learn to deal with stress faggot

[Anonymous No.6785319]

>>6784903
im here because of stress which left me with niggling health problems. This is a fucking holiday,anon.

[Anonymous No.6785408]

fucking weak I had 200k in my porftolio in dec, right now I have 130k I dont even give a fuck and keep in my I am a wagecuck who works for 600€/month

[Anonymous No.6785413]

Yeah, I was stressed during the drop from 3k to 1.7k, the uncertainty about segwit, the drop from 5k to 3k, the uncertainty about segwit2x, the alt massacre before the 2x fork got cancelled, the alt massacre after that, the BCH run, etc.
Now I don't give a shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.6785446]

>>6785309
>undergrad student
>thinks he knows what stress is
I'm an engineer, I'm working on a Master's through evening classes, I'm looking into starting a business based off of my grad research, and I have 80% of my net worth in crypto. GET ON MY LEVEL

[Anonymous No.6785480]

DYOR, look for a good entry point and stop being GAY.

[Anonymous No.6785488]

>>6785446
what sort of research, anon?

[Anonymous No.6785546]

Got in ethercraft 6 days ago. I dont give a shit anymore what is doing my crypto stuff.

Damn, so comfy hodling while I see a whole game developed from scratch

[Anonymous No.6785620]

>>6785446
Well done you (srs tho). Seeing as it's a dick swinging contest my little bro is 21, finishing his masters this year and starting a PHD at cambridge next year, paid by Rolls Royce. Get on that level?

Whereas this guy is fully stressed over Crypto

[Anonymous No.6785662]

>>6785488
Structural dynamics

[Anonymous No.6785672]

>>6785446
>>6785620
I was actually doing my masters to trade crypto full time. A masters was honestly about 10% the level of stress I feel now

[Anonymous No.6785695]

>>6785620
>starting a PHD at cambridge next year, paid by Rolls Royce
Propulsion?

[Anonymous No.6785712]

>>6785672
I mean was doing my masters but quit to trade

[Anonymous No.6785725]

>>6785408
I know this feel....only difference is I earn 4000 usd a month.

[Anonymous No.6785812]

>>6784903
Just sell OP, we are going to 8k

[Anonymous No.6785846]

>>6785672
>>6785712
iktf, I honestly have thought a lot about quitting my job to trade and focus on my research. I'm not learning much there anymore, and it just takes up so much time. It's a steady income though, and there's no guarantee that I'd make more trading than I would just HODLing like I'm doing now

[Anonymous No.6785858]

>>6785695
I don't know, my mum told me that he's doing a phd. I know he did natural sciences undergrad though

[Anonymous No.6785869]

>>6784903
late 20's fag here

clearly u r early 20's.

clearly this game is not meant for you to play it long term or even short term lol. simply cash out and try not to lose 20% or more in fees

also going all out on internet tokens is not very wise

[Anonymous No.6785885]

Crypto is literally the least stressful thing to trade holy shit dont tell me you put all your savings on this volatile asset right?

[Anonymous No.6785905]

>>6785672
If trading crypto full time is this stressful is it worth it?

[Anonymous No.6785926]

>>6785858
>doesn't ever talk to his otouto
Warui onii-chan desu
And ganbatte on your exams

[Anonymous No.6785937]

>>6784903
I'm stoned and deleted blockfolio

[Anonymous No.6786035]

>>6785905
That's a good question anon and I really don't know.

I felt like this was a once in a lifetime opportunity to actually make it. I was doing very very well trading before, way more than I would have just holding, but as I made more mistakes I started doing dumber and dumber trades and now idk if its worth doing.

I've been thinking about going back to my masters and just leaving everything as is and forgetting about it all, but at the same time you can miss out on so many gains doing so.

[Anonymous No.6786107]

>>6784903
Stop caring so much about money.

[Anonymous No.6786109]

>>6785926
Yeah true although he literally never answers his phone to anyone and I don't see him often
If that means good luck then thanks, got my next one on Tuesday

[/BIZ CHALLENGE/ No.6786227]

>>6784903
>During the last crash
These aren't crashes, just dips. Just chill out, crypto isn't going to die. Delete your deltas and blockfolios and come back in a month.

[Anonymous No.6786240]

>Stress
You aren't ment for this

[Anonymous No.6786273]

>>6786227
I needed this

[Anonymous No.6786363]

>>6784903
vechain has unironically saved me fucking based chinks god damn

[Anonymous No.6786409]

>>6784903
I'm all in but I'm not such a faggot

Here is a tip: just play vidya

[Anonymous No.6786504]

>>6785105
>>6785248
>looking at cute things
>turning him into a junkie

This. That's terrible advice. I started to look at cute things to deal with the stress and now I can't stop watching moeshit. Save yourself! Don't look at cute things!

[Anonymous No.6786519]

I tried taking a break from crypto yesterday. I read no news and didnt check any prices. I instead cleaned up, worked out, cooked, etc.

This morning I woke up with a severe headache for no reason, and checked the prices from yesterday- something I had mooned and I would have sold if I was watching, and today it's lower than ever so I continue to baghold.

The moral of the story is there's no escape and taking a break is a mistake. This is your life now, get used to it.

[Anonymous No.6786770]

>>6784903
No, I didn't invest more than i could afford to lose. Dumbass.

[Anonymous No.6786940]

>>6784903
jerk off, dude

[Anonymous No.6786958]

All you guys saying you only invested what you could afford to lose, I don't get why that matters. How do you not beat yourself up over all your missed gains and bad decisions?

I only invested a really small amount; 350 bucks, but was really poor so that was most of my money. I traded my portfolio up to over 100k and am down now to 50k because I didn't sell in time. Shit like that makes me so mad at myself

[Anonymous No.6787000]

>>6786504
No, give in! Look at cute anime!

[Anonymous No.6787031]

hit the sell button

[Anonymous No.6787068]

>>6786958
>all your missed gains and bad decisions
by not missing gains and making bad decisions? If your gains leave you that quickly then they were never gains in the first place

[Anonymous No.6787099]

>>6784903

>All in

This is why

[Anonymous No.6787222]

>>6784903
Even dirt poor africans living in shit conditions probably live a more internally less stressful and comfortable existence than you.

[Anonymous No.6787527]

>>6787222
Trips confirm, especially when you consider that Africans don't have complex enough central nervous systems to feel things like "sadness" and "despair" in the same way you and I do

[Anonymous No.6787587]

>>6784903
I don't watch charts. I check my Blockfolio three times during the day if I'm working. Once in the morning, so I can sell if I have to. If it's going well I'll check it at break. If not, I'll leave it until I get home and I can do something about it. DO NOT check your shit unless you can do anything about it, you are just causing yourself stress.

Also, focus on what you have made; not what you have missed out on. Take the bullshitters here with a pinch of salt, and just focus on your own gains. Don't pipe dream, but also keep hope.

>t. someone who tears his skin open by itching due to stress

[Anonymous No.6787634]

Since LINK has come out I really don't understand people like you on /biz/. You've got the surest thing ever just sitting there. Anyone not all in is a retard.

[Anonymous No.6787668]

>>6787000

With these digits, I g-guess I have to.

Curse you anon, I was trying to break free and now you're pulling me back in.

[Anonymous No.6787733]

>>6787634
My portfolio right now is mostly BAT and XLM with a bit of ETH and FUN

What should I change good sir

[Anonymous No.6787765]

>>6787733
I'd get rid of BAT and XLM
keep your ETH and FUN

[Anonymous No.6787880]

>>6787634
why has link been so disappointing? personally never bought link but over the course of time that it's been shilled here i've had better gains on my eth. What makes you think the future is so bright, especially now that the mcap is $300m? link doesn't stand out to me as all that of a fantastic project

[Anonymous No.6787922]

Rule 1: never invest more than you can afford to lose

Take out what you need to live for a reasonable period of time and sleep easy

[Anonymous No.6787945]

>>6786519

stinky linky?

[Anonymous No.6787974]

>>6785280
kek

[Anonymous No.6787993]

>>6787880
If it doesn't stand out to you, don't buy it. I don't want people who don't even understand the technology getting rich.

[Anonymous No.6788127]

>>6787993
>he fell for the /biz/ memes and actually has a stake in link
yikes

[Anonymous No.6788140]

>>6787945
takes one to know one!

[Anonymous No.6788500]

>>6787880
just set a fucking alert for a certain price tresshold, that way you can easily catch moons, without having to stress out constantly.

[Anonymous No.6788525]

I've lost so much, I don't even care anymore.

[Anonymous No.6788537]

>>6788127
Got in at ico after reading whitepaper.

[Anonymous No.6788572]

>>6784903
Have less of your net worth % in crypto.

[Anonymous No.6788710]

>>6784903
I'm not dying of stress but this crypto game is getting less fun and more malicious as FUD and shills ruin practically every coin listed today.

[Anonymous No.6788775]

i pulled my lower back doing kettlebell swings yesterday this is the last straw now i can't even walk to my pc to read my red charts

off to dr. benelli

[Anonymous No.6789038]

>>6786958
>I only have $500 and I want to invest it all
>this shitcoin seems promising, but I don't know
>I'll wait for a better price, I don't want to be wrong
>oh no it's mooning, better fomo
>woooooow I made a bad call

vs

>have $500 to whack into crypto for fun
>don't expect anything of it
>wow this HORSE coin looks like utter shit, I bet pajeets will eat it up
>fuck it, who cares
>x10 in a month

That's the difference.

[Anonymous No.6789336]

I agree with the idea of setting price alerts. I do for when I'm at work.

Also, eat healthy at least most of the time. I got better at eating healthy by getting blazed and only having healthy food. Now I mix it up arouns 50-50 in healthy/unhealthy.

Sure, oatmeal, hemp hearts, yogurt, blueberries, walnuts, pecans, etc. may not taste as good to many as smashing several donuts down, but you'll feel better.

Also, fish oil (Omega 3 fatty acids) Get USP verified if you can. If you can stomach the taste of fish, eat fish in lieu of fish oil.

[Anonymous No.6789378]

you think you've got it bad? I'm doing it on vyvvanse and while holding a profession

[Anonymous No.6789426]

>>6789336
eating like that is fucking expensive though, before I fucked up my jaw all i've eaten in the past 2 months is basically peanuts and rice to cut costs. I could probably add some oatmeal in though

[Anonymous No.6789980]

hold long you dense motherfucker

[Anonymous No.6790000]

>>6786958
no one can perfectly predict the future it's WAY more likely that you wont sell ATH and buy at the lowest point. all you can hope for is a good ROI, which you have so who cares?

[Anonymous No.6790087]

>>6784903
>dont invest more than you can afford to loose
god damn it anon, you missed rule one

[Anonymous No.6790172]

>I ground my teeth so much that I have partial lockjaw so I can barely eat anything because I can't open my mouth,

oh boy I know that feel
I've been grinding my teeth for years (at night) and like two years ago my jaw was as you are describing. Now it's gotten better but it is still constantly sore and clicks when I open my mouth a lot. I don't think it'll ever become normal again
I don't even know why I started grinding back then, I barely had any stress, just some depression maybe

[Anonymous No.6790236]

>>6789426

That's true it can be expensive.

Assuming US prices, bananas are super cheap, blueberries go on sale at times (as low as $1/pint at times in my area. Gotta read the circulars as they are normally $3-4 a pop. Wash them, dry them and freeze them if you find them on sale.

Oatmeal is inexpensive. Whole grains support sleep, so a little bit before bed as they increase serotonin production and can do wonders along with magnesium supplementation which can help with sleep quality and calming down one's mind. It's helped me.

Hemp hearts are pricey, but that and other nuts are good with a small amount sprinkled into oatmeal.

Also, cinnamon is a good way to increase the tastiness of it.

Last, but not least, look into L-Theanine. It's super cheap and great for anxiety. 20-50 mg is a good starting point. Google it anon. It kept me from having a breakdown. It's naturally in green tea and is popular in Japan.

[Anonymous No.6790280]

>>6789378
Vyvanse made me crazy. Good times.

[Anonymous No.6790309]

>>6784903
nigga you just crazy if you cant handle it. get some sun

[Anonymous No.6790558]

>>6784903
Holy shit dude, if this is true then you have bigger problems than crypto, you should see a psychologist or something. Either way, the way i do it is I set a certain amount aside each month to invest into crypto, then I set it and forget it, also set a notification on delta to notify me when my coins drop to a certain price so I can buy more during the dip(sale). Other than that, I never look at charts or graphs, if you’re sad about your 24hr losses, switch to all time to see some green and remember your gains. Also don’t invest more than you can afford to lose, don’t treat a speculative market(cryptos) seriously. This might be doing you mote harm than good, you might want to consider cashing out once you’re back in the green also buy high and sell low

[Anonymous No.6790952]

>>6784920
Anxiety attack

[Anonymous No.6791067]

>>6784903
I just took a bit of clonazepam and then went for a jog, feeling a lot better.

[Anonymous No.6791174]

>>6785480

> all use a similar colour scheme

is this a sign?

[Anonymous No.6791242]

>>6790952
full-spectrum CBD oil
10-20mg under tongue
hold for 5m

[Anonymous No.6791444]

>>6784903
xanax bro, it's addicting af tho.
weed only gives me anxiety, don't know why

[Anonymous No.6791538]

>>6784903

When I started trading I used to care about numbers on my screen. I thought about them day and night, interrupted my sleep to check the exchanges, felt stressed, tired. After a while I got used to it and started sleeping for longer, went longer without checking my portfolio. Sometimes days. After a while longer I gave up caring entirely. Gains? Don’t care. Losses? Don’t care. Now that markets are sliding, I’m actually feeling things again. Excitement. I fap when I see a big red candle. Tether is for pussies.

[Anonymous No.6791559]

>>6791444
Get high CBD weed or take L-Theanine before weeding it up.

Also, one's state of mind can be amplified with weed. I've noticed the older I've gotten and the more aware I am, the higher risk of anxiety attack.

[Anonymous No.6791822]

>>6785546
do u think ethercraft will be big? what should I buy

[Anonymous No.6791871]

once you've already cashed out 100x your initial investment, everything else is just FUN

[Anonymous No.6791884]

>>6784903
Anon, just join the discord group, invest in the signals as recommended and amass money without stress. It's damn easy.
https://discord gg/Z8P8VJp

[Anonymous No.6791952]

>>6791871
cannot confirm. I bought 3 BTC in 2011, hodled til november when I started with altcoins. stressed as fuck even though I can't even count how much I'm up.

[Anonymous No.6791957]

>>6784903
I'm all-inclusive on an ICO, so my portfolio is nil

[Anonymous No.6792009]

1. Don't invest more than you're able to lose.
2. Take out your initial investment as soon as possible so you're only playing with the "house money".
3. Start meditating every day.
4. Uninstall blockfolio.
5. Invest only in coins that you understand how they work and that you truly believe in will succeed. When you invest in shitcoins you will never be able to relax until you have dumped your bags.

[Anonymous No.6792250]

Each new technological advance is making us all generally more stressed, anxious and depressed, and a select few continue to get richer off the back of it.

> t. unabomber

[Anonymous No.6792381]

>>6784903
I've been in ARK, LINK and REQ (the only lucky choice) for most of 2017 and I literally couldn't sleep. Two weeks ago moved over all the remaining shitcoins to Ether and going full hibernation mode for 2018. Too spooky for me otherwise

[Anonymous No.6792416]

>>6784903
You have terminal cancer. RIP.

[Anonymous No.6792524]

>>6784903

[Anonymous No.6792675]

> Ctrl+F: "job"
> 1 result

You guys have problem.

[Anonymous No.6792769]

>>6784903
>>6792524

[Anonymous No.6793139]

>>6789378
im currently doing this as well...how do i fucking sleep

[Anonymous No.6793228]

sub 500 bil market cap. Even if bear market for 1 year gains will return.

Don't be a fucking retard and hold no real money in your bank account. Go outside, meet a human girl share your hopes and dreams with her, get a real job, fail. Life is always filled with suffering because we're stupid dumb monkeys, give meaning to your suffering or KYS already faggot.

You'll be rich in 5 years from internet coins just hold useful things and don't think about it.

Also if the market cap hits 10 tril get out lol

[Anonymous No.6793389]

>>6789426
Just eat green vegetables for 50% of your food, (Not iceberg lettuce you amerifat that's just water) costs literally fucking nothing, Green beans, cucumber, baby spinach, silverbeet, brussel sprouts, cos lettuce.
Exercise often and eat lean protein to support your exercise, at whatever the fuck you want inbetween.

Why are people so retarted life is fucking easy just dont treat your body like shit.

[Anonymous No.6793438]

>>6792009
3 & 4 are very good tips.

[Anonymous No.6793481]

You need to care less.

If it's going down, the only thing you can do to stop your losses is sell. If you are HODLing there is NOTHING you can do, so may just as well not even look at the charts / set alarms for FUCKING SELL NOW levels.

[Anonymous No.6793525]

>>6793228
You sound like you are 16 faggot

[Anonymous No.6793534]

I never cared

I'm at 150k atm and the prospect of that I can actually make it with 10-20x has started to stress me the fuck out.

[Anonymous No.6793570]

>>6793228
do you know how rare worthwhile women are

[Anonymous No.6793628]

>>6793534
I can really relate to this.

When i only had a couple grand I didnt give a fuck but once i started hitting 50k and then 100k i got more and more stressed. Doing 10x or 20x really is not that difficult to do in this market and we probably will never ever have an opportunity to do so again. We are so close and the only one stopping us is being to stupid to figure it out. That is the thought that kills me the most

[Anonymous No.6793892]

>>6787922
>You have no nutsack.

[Anonymous No.6793938]

>>6791957
Would you mind saying which ICO that would be?

[Anonymous No.6794017]

I don't give shit if I lose my investment. I have a job that I love, but would take me probably 15 years or more to buy a house. Crypto gives one in a lifetime opportunity to achieve that way quicker while I'm still in my 20s. This is what makes me anxious sometimes.

[Anonymous No.6794642]

>>6784903
thanks for this keep it up

[Anonymous No.6794945]

You're not gonna make it anon

[Anonymous No.6795057]

>>6784903
babby's first?

[Anonymous No.6795162]

>>6784903
You need something else to think about, vidya is a good thing for that, take some drinks too, or smoke if that is your thing. You think what you are constantly doing, so it will help. Try to get better or climb ranks, so it will help even more.

[Anonymous No.6795210]

This is why you hold some spare ETH and BTC always, so you can buy alts when alts bleed rather than just sit there and stare at the red numbers.

[Anonymous No.6795612]

If you’re all in then you need to hold for long term gains. The “crash” is Wall Street wannabes exercising their dying breaths. Overall this market will climb. This will be a good year as long as you’re in good coins like LINK, XMR, XLM, not shit coins like tron or Cardano.

[Anonymous No.6795799]

ive gained 50 pounds since getting into crypto. i was already chubby now im getting into obese territory. i stress eat constantly and dont leave my chair or computer for more than an hour or two per day. i text my mom when i want food and she delivers it to my room. only time i havent eaten much is once when she was out of town and i had to get my own food i ended up not eating much out of laziness.

[Anonymous No.6795819]

>>6795799
Hot. Post tummy pics.

[Anonymous No.6795900]

>>6795612
I'm all in mostly BAT and XLM with a bit in FUN and ETH. Other coins I was interested in picking up are XMR and OMG and that's about it except for ARK but not really sure how i feel about ARK anymore

[Anonymous No.6796057]

>>6795799

Hahahahahahahaha How The Fuck Is Obesity Real Hahahaha Nigga Just Put Down The Fork Like Nigga Close The Fridge Haha

[Anonymous No.6796067]

>>6795819

[Anonymous No.6796250]

>>6796067
looking good anon

[Anonymous No.6796273]

Exercise
Fuck
Get a massage

[Anonymous No.6796610]

>>6796067
jesus

[Anonymous No.6796704]

>Engineering student
>Have a job
>go to the gym
>have one hobby (vidya)
>trade coins
>not stressed at all
It's all in the good genes

[Anonymous No.6796803]

>>6796067
>>6795799

>getting into obese territory
>getting into

[Anonymous No.6797749]

>>6793628
fucking this so god damn hard