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From $800 to $1600 overnight.

>> No.6725853

not where i am at.

>> No.6725882

>>6725853
Try finding them in stock.

>> No.6725900

>>6725767
pls provide a source or i will rip my fucking eyes out and eat them, regurgitate them, ferment them for 19 months in jar and finally simmer the mixture over medium-high heat for 20 minutes and serve with pasta.

>> No.6725945

>>6725900
https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapcsales/comments/7rl7qv/meta_it_seems_as_though_microcenter_has_started/

>> No.6726112

>>6725767
i was going to buy a pc soon, tired of doing everything on an xbox
does this mean im going to be payiing out the ass for a ddeecent one now?
whats biz advice on getting around this bullshit

>> No.6726182 [DELETED] 

4PGXm4v
Well join this discord for pumping and dumping and maybe you fags will be able to afford a GPU now kek

>> No.6726220

>>6726112
You were going to be paying out the ass a year ago. Prices were ruined by the crypto fad, the supply has been poached ever since, and right now is the worst time in history to be entering the PC enthusiast market.

There's just no point to doing anything on PC anymore. Don't bother. And definitely don't buy used. The used market is flooded with overpriced, burned out cards being sold by sons of bitches trying to screw people one more time.

>> No.6726221

>>6725767
It chokes out gamers more than miners. Miners would recoup their money eventually while gamers wouldn't be able to bare the burden of a GPU that has doubled in price.

>> No.6726250

>>6726182
if we get to 200, we'll be on our way!!!

>> No.6726259

>>6726221
>It chokes out gamers more than miners.
The gamers have been choked out for more than a year. These companies have basically stopped advertising things aimed at gamer, because their metrics have dropped into the fucking toilet.

>> No.6726294

>>6726221
This is a good thing, fuck those manchildren gaymers.

>> No.6726322

>>6726259
>Retailers double GPU prices to choke out crypto miners

So your initial thesis is incorrect then? It doesn't choke out crypto miners at all, in fact it reinforces the barrier of entry for most gamers.

>> No.6726324
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i bought my gtx 1070 ti for 500USD, people sell for 800 usd on Kijiji. what do

>> No.6726357

>>6726322
Gamers weren't getting the cards, though. They haven't been getting the cards for a long while. There was only one group getting them, and now they just have to pay double to keep up. And if they keep paying, they can just double it again.

Crypto's balls are in the vice of the tech industry.

>> No.6726483

>>6726112
Buy a prebuilt.

>> No.6726496

You can still game faggot, Pre builds option,offers here and there or just build a second hand rig
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIjvsxQ_iUI

>> No.6726552

>>6726496
>or just build a second hand rig
No. Don't do that. The market is flooded with dead mining cards being sold for their MSRP.

Fuck gaming. Gaming is dead. Gaming is done. Crypto is here. So they shouldn't bother trying to meet the demand via volume. Just crank the price up. $5,000 for an RX 580 sounds fair. Do that. Why not? Fuck with crypto the way crypto has fucked with them.

>> No.6726555

>>6726324
>bought my 1070 for just about 400 with tax right before the eth boom
Feels fucking good man

>> No.6726671

>>6726555

you could have bought 40 eth instead

>> No.6726713

>>6726220
>le mining hurts cards meme
Keep it up Carlos, more cards for me.

>> No.6726765

>>6726713
You can pay for them, then. By all means. Buy them all. Buy every card. Pay double. Triple. 10x the initial MSRP. Pay more and more for the same product as they hold back new technology and you just need to buy more and more to keep making the same progress. Beat the drum until you've sunk every penny you've made back into keeping it going as the drum beat of imminent doom gets nearer and nearer.

>> No.6726876

Why don't GPU makers just make products that are specially designed for crypto mining (like more efficient and shit) so mining fags can buy those and stop fucking up things for gamers?

>> No.6726910

muh gaymes

>> No.6727017

>>6726876
Those do exist. Most crypto bans their use. The availability of consumer-grade video cards is what allows the barrier for entry to be fairly low. Or it did. Not anymore. There won't be any new people buying in anymore.

>> No.6727136
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6727136

>My r9 390 from 2015 is getting older and older.

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6727234

>limit 2 per customer

why would it be so hard to do this?

>> No.6727238

If you are still playing video games in 2018 you are probably a milk drinking faggot bugman. I rent to three people in their mid 20s who are stuck in video game land literally all day playing dumb weeb shit. They will all die poor in their filthy rooms glued to some digital Skinner Box. I hope GPUs become relegated to black markets or the wealthy elite (me). My fucking 8800 mined enough in 2013 to make me set for life. Too bad those days are gone and you were collecting hats in TF2 instead.

:^)

>> No.6727297

>>6725767
Why don't people start their own chip fabs?

Hell you could ignore patents and sell asics and gpus with stolen/reverse engineered designs on the darkweb.

>> No.6727349

>>6727234
Oh. Their employees are corrupt and give people favors and let them buy out the entire store. They can't control their employees, so this lets them control their supply.

>> No.6727400

>>6726671
let us not talk about that shall we

>> No.6727417

>>6727349
At least regarding Microcenter, I mean.

>> No.6727448
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>mfw my Vega56 bought in September value is deflationary while I mine the shit out of it

>> No.6727548

>>6725853
Newegg listed and sold out of V64's two days ago for $1100 each.
http://www.nowinstock.net/computers/videocards/amd/rxvega64/
You can get a 1080ti right now for $909
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137111&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-VigLink-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=6163686&SID=jcn533wgid011rh100053

>> No.6727556

>>6725767
In the days of the gold rush the people who made the most profits were the ones selling the shovels.
>Stock of x10 RX580s i’m currently selling on Ebay

>> No.6727734

>>6727238
You're so fucking dumb. Without a bunch of broke ass normies being able to play vidya they'll stop being developed dumbass

Gaming needs to be affordable enough that they'll keep producing video games.

>> No.6727790

How come nobody wants them Vega Frontier Edition?

>> No.6727923
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>>6725767

just pure malice and i don't mean the retailers ... fuckers stealing electricity left and right

crypto mining is pure retardation ...

>> No.6727957

>>6727923

This guy is not going to make it.

>> No.6727984

>>6727923
The guy is destined to fail

>> No.6728169
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6728169

>>6725767
>mfw i'm almost 2x on my investment into a GPU

>> No.6728422

>not having contacts in the Far East at Asus and msi so I can group buy along with all the owners of the shops in a very large technology market in a certain city

Tbh, americunts and euros, you’re not getting the cards in bulk because we’ve got guys hassling the rep in their native language every day asking when the cards are going to be delivered. And they will be.

>> No.6728436

>>6728169
>Mfw I'm up 20x on my investment in buying crypto

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6728552

I have like 10 more 1080TIs on their way in the mail for around $800 each, just gotta catch Amazon at the right times.

You'd think a bunch of tech savvy people with a hobby based around competition would know how to beat the system and not just whine like communists on reddit.

>> No.6728875

>>6726552
>the way crypto has fucked with them.
How the fuck is crypto increasing their business "fucking" with them?

>> No.6728989

damn almost want to sell mine and get a 1080 for 500. i dont even need the extra power. i can bey more ven with the profits.

>> No.6729019

>>6728875
Because it isn't. The business model was built around catering to a small enthusiast market and steadily growing as demand allowed. You have sponsored teams and groups and you have all this brand-building and loyalty and community crap that has been invested into for like 20 years. Suddenly this big game plan that you've set out is in ruin. Everything is being sold, but you know your business is fucked. Because this is all volatile. This isn't the steady and controllable brand strategy. The people you market to can't get the damn things.

>> No.6729090

alright, put up my 1070 Ti I bought for 600$CAD for sale, for 1000$. hope it goes well so i can pay back debts + invest some dolleros in coins guys

>> No.6729175

Lol, literally bought a pre-built PC yesterday with a GTX 1080 Ti, and the price was totally normal, not inflated in the slightest.

>> No.6729643

>>6728552
>we NEED regulations on graphics card sales! I've lost so much money!
i can almost smell the posts

>> No.6729729

>>6725767
>Retailers double GPU prices to make as much money as possible.
ftfy

>> No.6729768

>>6725767
>tfw bought strix 1080ti back in September before i found out about crypto

i dont even play video games anymore now that crypto has taken over my life.

>> No.6729813

games are for losers

>> No.6729932

>>6729019
Thats bullshit the card manufacturers are cashing in massively.

They are even bringing out new cards specifically for hashing.

>> No.6729976

>>6729932
Mining cards already exist, but we still buy gaming cards. You get what you can.

>> No.6730059

>>6725767
I just think NVIDIA will sit on gaymer Volta for a few extra months just because capacity is at max for all the other cards.

>> No.6730101

>>6725767
Its fucking supply and demand.

>> No.6730163

>>6726221
Lol this
Miners are already super rich because of Ethereum, paying x2 this shit is nothing
Neet gamers got rekt super hard

>> No.6730187

>>6726876
there are. the chips (as in RAM) still cost the same , they wouldn't magically get cheaper just because they got rid of the hdmi out.
even with a difference in price, lets say 100 usd most hobby miners would still flock to the non castrated cards because of resell value

>> No.6730269

>>6728552
/this
fucking commie fucks need to gtfo
gaymers believe that supply and demand shouldnt affect their hobby
what they dont get is that nobody but bugmen and soyboys still play mainstream vidya, its all too kike infested and has only gone downhill since gaymergate and even before then

>> No.6730289

>>6726221
fuck gamers

>> No.6730373

>>6727734
why the fuck would i care about video games? i have other more important shit to do
i hope the whole industry dies

>> No.6730644

>>6728552
those gigabyte cards are loud as fuck, i hope you don't keep them in your bedroom

>> No.6730827

>>6725767
have you seen the beta where you rent cloud GPU to play the game for you and stream it back to you?
wonder if you could trick it into mining for you.

>> No.6730931

I think its great. Videogames were the reason consumer computers progressed so fast in the 90s and now crypto is the reason it will speed up again.

>> No.6731389

>>6730931
You are a moron

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>>6731389
Whatever nocoiner.

>> No.6731638

Maybe you shouldn't buy from amazon or newegg then?
https://www.evga.com/products/productlist.aspx?type=0&family=GeForce+10+Series+Family&chipset=GTX+1080+Ti
Just buy from places like this. Only 1 per household but if that is a problem then just pay your neighbor to get one or something.

>> No.6732190

This won't do shit, they increase the ROI time for miners but they'll still buy them. This isn't about choking out anyone, this is about charging as much as possible for a product you know will fly off the shelves anyway.

Also this shit hurts manufacturers too. Yeah cards sell out in a day, but then what? You get no brand loyalty, you get no sales from other hardware (e.g. gaming monitors that often accompany a high end GPU), you get fucked with RMA abuse, and in the end if mining every crashes or someone simply starts making proper mining-dedicated cards, the market will be flooded with GPUs crashing the price because you ordered to keep up with both gaming and mining demand, but suddenly miners are gone (so now you have thrice the GPUs you needed).

>>6730289
>>6730373
You trade shit based on memes you see on an anime imageboard, you really don't have much room to be trying to look adult and cool as hard as you are.

>> No.6732963

>>6726221
>fuck gamer faggots

if youre too stupid to not be mining right now you deserve to stay poor

>> No.6733175

>>6727297
I've wondered this too, its over my head but can't you buy the component parts on alibaba and just put one together? I'm not an electronics guy, but I do metal work and am electrically savvy enough to get the right power to it and put a fan on it for cooling. Looking at one of these things I'm sure the bulk of the cost is in the frame, fan and power supply, which are all things I could build and integrate.

>> No.6733601

OH quit crying fucking pussies. There are almost always decent cards on Newegg at somewhat normal prices, that are limited to 1 per customer.

18 GPU mining fag

>> No.6733704

I mean, this is good. Kids should be outside making friends not playing Minecraft all day in the basement. I think the next generation will be better and less autistic.

>> No.6733834

>>6733704
>says the autist

>> No.6733979

>>6728436
3>>6728169
>mfw I've reinvested my nanopool payout and made .8 eth out of .2eth at a rate of 630 bukos. Thats why mining is so damn good, you pay an electric bill anf you get ether out

>> No.6734030

>>6726112
>>6725767
I just built this for 1250 aussie bucks which should be about $950, so under 1k even with our autistic inflated prices.
>ryzen 5 1600
>nvidia gtx 1070
>16 gb of 2800 MHz ram (OCs to 3000 with no problems)
>2TB of storage
>no ssd because fuck paying for faster boot times and copy paste shit
>no dvd reader because who the fuck still uses that
>$40 case
>B350 mobo
It runs Doom 2016 at ~100 fps at 1440p on ultra without vsync.
All of these parts are new, I dumpster dove a PSU because I don't pay the electricity bill and PSU efficiency is placebo shit anyway.
Git gud.

>> No.6734070

>>6729932
this. NVIDIA and AMD stock has been booming lately.

>> No.6734087

>>6727923
But they're paying for it stupid

>> No.6734134

What they dont realize is that by doin this they will just forge the price of eth and all other gpu coins up higher, thus making it more feasible to mine with $1000 card, thus choking out supply more. LOL. Only thin they can do is flood the market with cards but theyll never ive up this stupid margin of return

>> No.6734277

kek watch the GPU market becoming even more fucked up when people realise its the easiest and cheapest way to train their own neural networks.

expect consumer grade voltas to launch at 1000+

>> No.6734721

>>6731638
except none of those are actually in stock.

>> No.6734967

>>6734030
>PSU efficiency is placebo shit anyway.
I've been building PC's for over 15 years and the #1 thing I've seen fail is powersupplies. Further, cheap power supplies have the nasty habit of taking the entire system with them when they blow.

Don't buy or use a cheap powersupply. Replace your shitty one before it fails or you're going to be looking at a bill a lot higher than the cost of a good PSU.

By a good powersupply, cheap ones lack the protection circuits need to prevent catastrophic system failure. Or you can go drink gas with abbos, idgaf.

>> No.6735025

Can you explain to me why you hate gamers that much? I understand it's bad if you're a NEET and wasting all your time on it but other than that?

>> No.6735117

>>6726765
kill yourself my man

>> No.6735194

>>6725767
>doubling price doesn't affect other GPU usecases
ok

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>got a 980ti for $300 in april

>> No.6735344

>>6726221
>Miners buy up all the new graphics cards.
>Graphics cards loose profitability over time
>Gamers buy the old graphics cards from miners
The new cycle is here.

>> No.6735347

>>6725767
nice, just bought 100k

>> No.6735362

>>6725767
I got a 1089 ti the other day for 820

>> No.6735389

is minimg with 1070ti worth it?

>> No.6735440

>>6735389
Ya

>> No.6735463

I don't think its to choke out miners. It is low stock and supply/demand. The price is only $100 more at most when they a card in sufficient stock. At the beginning of the month a 1070 was still $450.

>> No.6735471

>>6735389
1050 are still profit but u can't find them as well

>> No.6735475

>>6734967
I just meant the efficiency rating, it really doesn't matter if it's 80% or 90% your PC doesn't draw that much power and it's not gonna make a noticeable difference on your power bill.
I didn't literally dumpster dive it, it's a corsair PSU that my gf's dad got from his friend's store or some shit I'm not sure.

>> No.6735501

Does socket have any impact on the performance of a GPU as it realates to mining?

>> No.6735624

>>6734967
Don't have much experience or knowledge but I've been noticing that too, will keep it in mind, thanks

>> No.6735706

>>6735501
No. You can use one PCI-e lane and see 0% reduction in mining performance

>> No.6736145

>>6726220
>burnt out
I love that this meme exists.

>> No.6736146

>>6730644
who cares about noise, they print money

>> No.6737153

>>6734030
Thanks anon
Screen capped

>> No.6737197

Still using my 970

>> No.6737599

>>6736145
Who knew viideo cards could wear out like the transmission on your wifes sons Honda Civic?

>> No.6737754

>>6737599
I'm going to help you out because I like car based insults.

https://youtu.be/44JqNJq-PC0?t=2m5s

>> No.6737808

>>6737754
Goddamn why are video cards as big as xboxes these days?

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>> No.6737958

>>6726112
Just get gaming as a service or desktop as a service. SaaS model way better for computers nowadays.

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>>6727136
my r9 270 that I got for $100 broke a few months ago. I feel like giving up on waiting and getting a ps4. I'm not paying over $300 for GPU that isn't limited by vram and new. I've had too many gpus die over the years to buy a new one without warranty.

>> No.6738054

>>6725900
>so, what level of Reddit are you at right now
>oh, I don't know... 3 or 4?
>like a little baby. Watch this.

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>> No.6738093

What crypto do you guys mine that gets good returns? I have a 1070 that I wanna put to use

>> No.6738148

Picked up a Vega 64 for retail at launch, picked up another one for a slight markup right before they became unavailable and the prices skyrocketed. Feelsgoodman.

>> No.6738184

>>6738064
nice, just sold everything

>> No.6738255

>>6738093
If you only have one card i'd suggest winminer. You are able to select from the most popular cryptos, paypal and gift cards when cashing out. Using nicehash at this point with the bitcoin fees are so high seems pointless with only one card.

>> No.6738369

Post yfw all these mining dorks get BTFO when ETH launches PoS

>> No.6738510

>>6738369
yes because eth is the only gpu minable coin out there

>> No.6739069

>>6738369
>generate eth for a year
>eth goes PoS
>value of your holdings explode

>> No.6739140

Got a RX Vega 56 for £380 on day one. Never used it for mining. Hardly ever game on it either. Mostly used for 4K MadVR movie playback.

>> No.6739319

>>6734030
pc's without ssd's are unusable

>>6738093
miningpoolhub is neat

>> No.6739373

/v/ BTFO