/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.59050587]

You people aren't so delusional to believe this... right?

[Anonymous No.59050594]

>>59050587
They don't call em "laser-eyed retards" for nothing.

[Anonymous No.59050598]

>>59050587
it's not delusional. You just need to wrap your mind around reality. And reality is that every currency of every country on this planet has unlimited supply.

[Anonymous No.59050602]

>>59050587
if someone said 10+ years ago btc would be 72k in a few years, people like you would've said the same thing you just said today.

[Anonymous No.59050604]

>>59050587
If btc manifests destiny and approaches gold market cap it'll be mil+. Whether it will or not, I don't know. Make a bet faggot

[Anonymous No.59050643]

i got around 48-50k just throwing pocket change a few years back, i'm not complaining. I threw it in thinking it was a waste but now i keep waiting for 13k prices again to ape full in this time.

[Anonymous No.59050658]

>>59050643
For me it's sub 20k. Boughted on the last dip, will be boughtering again if it happens again

[Anonymous No.59050671]

>>59050658
yeah, these days anything under 40k is good. Realistically though, owning just 1-2 bitcoin in 10-20 years I will still be poor... Kick myself in the nuts because in highschool i was with some friends looking at underground labs selling steroids and we were put off because they only accepted bitcoin and we where apprehensive about it.

[Anonymous No.59050685]

>>59050587
how much will Kamala make it go up?

[Anonymous No.59050692]

>>59050685
49k dip then pump
trump - 80k pump then 60k dip then slow climb again to 100k by eoy.

[Anonymous No.59050732]

>>59050587
Someone post the bell curve meme
Number goes up. It's just that simple

[Anonymous No.59050737]

>>59050587
Don't buy bitcoin
It's going to crash
https://youtu.be/XbZ8zDpX2Mg?si=rhBH5N466qaQtFC4

[Anonymous No.59050753]

>>59050602
They have. And they did. They were proven wrong. As they will be proven wrong again.

[Anonymous No.59050765]

>>59050737
Lmfao. History often repeats itself. Don't believe the bear bots. The bottong is real, watch the text and how it's always presented in the same formats.

[Anonymous No.59050812]

>>59050737
An excellent video, effectively communicates the dangerous volatility of Bitcoin. If you want to save your money, steer clear!

[Anonymous No.59050823]

>>59050737
Oh, its that old propaganda video used to convince dumb money that fake internet dollerydoos is going to make them rich.

[Anonymous No.59050826]

>>59050587
Bitcoin have no top because fiat have no bottom, retard.

[Anonymous No.59050828]

>>59050812
Pussy. You chose the carpet job

[Anonymous No.59050833]

>>59050823
>>59050826

[Anonymous No.59050892]

BTC is going to break $100k by EOY because… it just is okay

[Anonymous No.59051068]

>>59050587
This thing was remade several times

[Anonymous No.59051074]

>>59050828
>>59050833

UHH IM THINKING SEASON 2 BASED MORTYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

[Anonymous No.59051118]

>>59050604
At gold market cap it'll only be uh, $12.7T / 21M = $600k

[Anonymous No.59051125]

>>59050587
There is no top to fiat printing. It just depends on how quickly that value loses trust.

$1million dollar bitcoin valuation is probably accurate in the scheme of equality. You won't ever be able to trade it for this amount but you may be able to purchase a home for 1 BTC.

[Anonymous No.59051129]

>>59051125
There are more than 21million homes and less than 21million BTC circulating.

[Anonymous No.59051161]

>>59050602
That's EXACTLY what /g/ said at the time, and still sat now, and why it was for the best we divorced

[Anonymous No.59051185]

>>59050587
I'm completely sure that must be a law or a mathematical concept that explains or tries to predict the behavior of an asset, the common sense indicates that an infinite grow and also exponentially it's not possible. Assuming infinite inflation 100000 sounds possible but lame.
1 btc = 1btc that means our dollars get cheaper by the day.

[Anonymous No.59051208]

>>59050587
If a memecoin like KENDU Inu could, why won't BTC?

[Anonymous No.59051234]

>>59051185
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTban-U-wpo

[Anonymous No.59051396]

The problem with scarce assets is they become unfair for people who were not alive to accumulate early. Like our kids will never hope to own a whole btc on their own, but we had the chance to stack hundreds.

A better system would be some scarce asset that is tied to each generation. So everyone has the opportunity to play the game. Then they can only be mad at themselves for not accumulating when they had the chance.

[Anonymous No.59052600]

>>59050587
You don't have to "believe" it, its just math. 21,000,000/X as X increases to infinity will evaluate to higher and higher prices forever. X is the fiat supply here. Fiat is literally engineered to go down forever. There will be volatility in between, but its just a matter of how much time before Bitcoin will be $1mil, $10mil, $100mil, any number.

[Anonymous No.59052609]

>>59051396
Doesn't matter if its a "problem," scarcity exists. Land, gold, equity (stocks), are all scarce. The only thing an inflationary currency does is siphon wealth off the innocent masses who don't realize how the system works.

>A better system would be some scarce asset that is tied to each generation.
Cool in theory, but one, impossible to implement without loopholes, and then what does the 70 or 80+ year old billionaire do with his money knowing it will be completely lost when he dies? Blow it on something stupid probably. It would incentivize massive misuse of capital that would just destroy resources. Passing the wealth on to their kids is a lot better than erecting a 5,000ft statue to themselves or something.

[Anonymous No.59053001]

>>59052600
This is pure insanity. Please get therapy.

[Anonymous No.59053006]

>>59053001

[Anonymous No.59053020]

>>59050587
We're creating a super intelligence out of sand. Imagine explaining that to people several generations ago.

[Anonymous No.59053052]

>>59050587
What would Sisyphus do if the boulder stayed there instead of rolling back down the hill? Or better yet he reached the top. Would he sit at the bottom and contemplate what next? Who is he without the boulder? Would he push it back down and willfully start again? Would he create science to move the boulder faster?

I think what we're most scared of is this. There is no end, only means.

[Anonymous No.59053095]

baboon nigger bears don't understand that bitcoin doesn't go up
the dollar goes down indefinitely
at the same time, the ratio between base cash and derivative credit widens
that means all bearfags are not only broke, but they've been effectively robbed by their banks lol
eat a pile of shit, OP, you deserve to die a horrendous grueling death you filthy faggot

[Anonymous No.59053100]

>If you wanna go up, you gotta go down
You cannot experience the heights of heaven without knowing the depths of hell. This is why Christ spent 3 days there before ascending. You could try to go heaven first, but the path to evil is paved with good intentions. So then the path to good must be paved with bad intentions.

All the evil in the world exists within you. We like to imagine "bad" people as something different than human. Like we could never do that. Everything is addictive though. If you've ever smoked, gambled, slept around then you understand to some degree the addiction. The greater the societal boundary you cross, the greater the high and stronger the addiction. Eventually, you'll find yourself doing the addictive habit not for the habit, but for the high. Murder, rape, drinking...it's all the same bucket of shit to varied degrees. You will always need bigger hits. This is the essence of hell.

[Anonymous No.59053102]

>>59053001
Its objective math. Bitcoin is guaranteed to be any number of dollars, its just a matter of when, and how much those dollars are worth. Because say for example, bitcoin hits $100million in 2040, $100mil in 2040 is going to be a lot less value than $100 mil now. It may be only the equivalent value of a few million today.

And if the dollar collapses then bitcoin will be essentially worth infinity dollars like 1 usd = something like 10^27 or something original Zimbabwe dollars when that currency. That's 1 usd = Z$1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 may as well just say infinity at that point.

[Anonymous No.59053103]

>>59053102
>when that currency.
I mean when the demonized that currency and it officially went to "0."

[Anonymous No.59053112]

>>59050737
If your argument relies on a video you know it's an argument meant for the most retarded of retards unable to read and comprehend a few concise words.

[Anonymous No.59053119]

>>59053112
>he didn't watch the video
unfathomable retard

[Anonymous No.59053120]

>>59053102
Its an objective truth that bitcon doesn't actually exist and has no real world value. All the numbers are just a ponzi you fell for.

[Anonymous No.59053130]

>>59053120
It exists as much as the dollar does. FYI reserve notes (paper bills) and bank deposits are not technically dollars, they are liabilities of the fed and bank respectively to give you a "dollar," which is actually just a made up unit of value that used to defined as a certain amount of gold, but now is just defined as whatever it trades for just like bitcoin. Nether is more real than the other, the difference is bitcoin has a limited supply, while the government literally works to make sure the dollar depreciates in value over time.

[Anonymous No.59053149]

>ok so i'm addicted to things, how does this help me to learn about heaben?
These "evil" parts of yourself only grow larger when you don't acknowledge they are within you. When you think there's nothing wrong with you, and the problem lies in everybody else. You're like a wooden puppet disconnected from parts of yourself. When you finally start to acknowledge these tendencies, then the path to healing is open. But you have to take that deep look into yourself to know how much is in there, and it's terrifying to KNOW.

From here you're not in heaven, you're in limbo. You know this evil resides in you, but you don't want it to. You enjoy the thought that you're an ok guy. You flip back'n forth between rejecting this evil within yourself knowing the rejection of it will only make it grow, and accepting you have this but feeling terrible about it because it shatters your entire identity (ego) of who you think you are.

[Anonymous No.59053198]

>>59053130
The dollar is backed by the USA. The USA is very real and ensured the dollar has value. Fake monopoly money has more value than bitcon because at least it exists.

[Anonymous No.59053232]

>>59053198
The dollar is only metaphorically "backed" in the sense the US gives some promise it won't be devalued rapidity. This only has value because despite massive deficits the US is more trust worthy than most other countries fiat currency. But the US absolutely has a policy for constant supply expansion and inflation.

Bitcoin is similarity backed in the exact same way by its code/protocol that mathematically guarantees the supply won't be diluted nearly at all, so it doesn't require any government like the US to promote it, but it can be promoted by a growing economy of people who use bitcoin because they trust math more than a government with seemly no ability to control its deficit, and desire a currency that isn't controlled by a gov that guarantees long term devaluation.

[Anonymous No.59053267]

>the only way out is through
So the question now is "how do i continue living with this knowledge". Well you can't go back, and it will get harder before it gets easier. You now have the process of learning to love yourself. To begin taking your first steps.

>it would feel good to harm people or even myself
This is my internal protector. He will keep me safe during conflict and give me strength to push after my wants. Unintegrated my protector will become a tormentor and place unreasonable demands on myself and others.

>it would feel good to fuck whoever i want whenever i want
This is my internal social butterfly. It gives me the spontaneity and creativity to build strong connections with those around me. Unintegrated my butterfly will push people away for fear of my own lustful desires.

>watching horrible things happen to people is enjoyable because for once it's someone else in pain
This is my internal joker. It gives me humor to lighten the mood when things are bad. Unintegrated my joker will subconsciously cause pain to those around me to amuse itself.

These are just a few of my demons that i have learned to love. Yours will be unique to you as will your integration of them.

[Anonymous No.59053298]

>>59053232
US debt means absolutely nothing. I look forward to you doomer conspiratards wining about it for the next 5 decades. The USD is back by the USA which has fucking nukes. Bitcon literally does not exist.

[Anonymous No.59053303]

>>59053232
US debt means absolutely nothing. I look forward to you doomer conspiratards whining about it for the next 5 decades. The USD is back by the USA which has fucking nukes. Bitcon literally does not exist.

[Anonymous No.59053310]

>>59050587
I thought the exact same thing with superverse when it reached ~$0.3 and now look at it at $1 again kek

[Anonymous No.59053342]

>>59053303
Dollars themselves are part of the US debt. Dollars are just US debt with zero duration. Again, technically the "dollar" is just a unit of value, and your cash or bank account is just a debt of the central bank or a commercial bank.

The amount of debt including outstanding currency, bank deposits, treasuries, etc. represents the total supply of dollars in the long term. So the total amount absolutely matters because its basically the supply in the end.

Its just the massive increase in USD supply has been partially offset by deflationary factors like increasing adoption of the USD overseas as a reserve currency, capital accumulation incl. technological growth, globalization, etc. If the US gov ran a straight up balanced budget, fixed supply dollar, the dollar would have massively appreciated in value like bitcoin due to all those factors, but it is literally their policy to ensure the dollar gradually declines in value.

That's why bitcoin is basically guaranteed to reach any sort of nominal value in exchange with the dollar, its just a question of time frame.

[Anonymous No.59053346]

The easiest example of integration I can give is being horny. When you're horny how do you act? More outgoing, more lively, more willing. When you satisfy the horny by coooming how do you feel? I urge you to sit with the horny feeling, let if fry you electrically, and watch to see if anything truly bad happens. What you'll realize is you don't want to coom. What you want is to stop the horny feeling. It never stops. So change how you feel about being horny. See the presence of the feeling as a good thing because it gives all the positives I mentioned.

This is when you start to see the blessings. You've tapped into the power of your raw sexual essence. It will give you all the motivation, and creativity you need. You won't need to think of what to say to girls or watch video's, it will flow for you in a way that feels organic and people will just say "i like his vibe". All that energy you used up before thinking about it will come back to you. Things will feel effortless (effortless effort). Do this for enough things and your energy stockpile will grow. With enough energy (presence) mystical experiences will become common for you.

[Anonymous No.59053349]

>>59053342
If I go to a super market to buy groceries, you know what they will accept? Real american dollars. You know what they wont accept? Crapto.

[Anonymous No.59053360]

>>59053349
Except there's an extremely liquid USD/Bitcoin market, so I can instantly convert Bitcoin to USD and buy something priced in USD without having to use the dollar at all, just some dollar oriented payment system.

Its like I can charge my phone with an American plug in Europe with an adapter I don't need to buy a completely separate phone.

[Anonymous No.59053729]

>>59050587
Forget this talk. While everyone’s chasing dreams, I’m stacking sats with SuperBots. Their automated vaults let me profit whether BTC moons or tanks. This is the way

[Anonymous No.59053757]

>>59053303
Yeah man nothing gives value to something more than pointing guns to people’s heads. Such a great world.

[Anonymous No.59053822]

>>59053360
You just remind me how algo's on SuperBots strategically convert ETH to USDC during downturns and have proven invaluable, making it a key part of my trading approach.

[Anonymous No.59053853]

>>59053267
>pic
i don't think that is osha approved

[Anonymous No.59053995]

>>59050587
the limit is actually 117k

[Anonymous No.59054010]

>>59050587
I'll be selling a bit when we hit $1MM, I need to live life. That said, I will never sell my entire stack.

[Anonymous No.59054192]

>>59050587
It’s gonna happen right in front of your eyes, and I’ll remind you of this. I’m also going to bank huge with the Drive& app while driving, and I’ll remind you how easily you ignored me when I said all this, retard.

[Anonymous No.59054225]

>>59050643
It’s not gonna happen, fag. You can still correct your regrettable decision and DCA into both BTC and low caps like NATIX, RIO, and QAN.

[Anonymous No.59054237]

>>59053303
>information does not exist
-_-

[Anonymous No.59054837]

>>59050587
whats the dollars bottom?

[Anonymous No.59055331]

>>59053102
correct.
"number goes up" is a big trap.
need to account better for, the houses.
>>59051129
A BTC/McMansion would be better price indicator.
It takes XXXXX Btc, then it takes XXX, then XX, etc.
Or maybe, BTC/silver or BTC/gold.

[Anonymous No.59056022]

>>59053303
shit tier bait, try again moshe

[Anonymous No.59056254]

>>59050587
belive it? son who the fuck cares if i believe it or not, reality works whether we want it or not, i will keep on investing, keep on getting all my good alts and shitcoins into solbank, getting that sweet sweet apy as i provide liquidity, will keep on making money and if we ever reach 1 million i will be extremely happy. But if we dont, then who the fuck cares, this is a single-player race baby

[Anonymous No.59056457]

>>59050587
It's only true because the dollar will collapse to tock bottom.

[Anonymous No.59056492]

>>59053267
I had to consciously consent to putting some spiritual development on pause around 2022. My cycle would dip back into solipsism and stoicism then feel like I was lacking for 2 years because gains were small. I kinda put it on a back burner and revisit it occasionally, but there was some concession to that development if I want to make it enough to be free in America. I keep totems, physical and conceptual, to remind me what I'm doing. You yanked it right out anon thank you.
Still not selling but maybe soon......

[Anonymous No.59056540]

>>59053303
>clinging to fiat even as it rapidly loses value in realtime
idk what to tell you man

[Anonymous No.59056814]

>>59054837

Asking the real questions.