/SBI/ Small Business Ideas General

[Anonymous No.58999200]

Let us now have a general where we can discuss all things small business, sweaty start-up, how to start one, financing, etc. /Biz/ should have a place to sling ideas that do not involve shit coins. Here is a list of small business startup ideas.


Lawn Care (fertilizing and weed control)
Landscaping
Pest control
Deck staining
Pressure washing
Window/Gutter Cleaning
Closet build out
Moving/Hauling
Tree trimming / arborist
Interior design
Home office build out
Maid services
Carpet cleaning
Childcare
Pet grooming
Pet care/walking/boarding
Thermal imaging – utility saving
Smart home Installation
Chimney cleaning
Pool services
Hot tub wiring/installation
Countertop epoxy design
Custom furniture refinishing
Window washing
Pavement power cleaning
Laundry services
Mirror installation
Foundation repair
Mold removal
Security installation
Custom lighting installation
Dog underground fence installation
Solar panel installation
Irrigation system installation
Storm shutter installation
Hurricane prep service
Grass seed service
Custom wallpaper installation
Fire damage remediation
On demand holiday decorations
Gardening services
Septic service / pumping
Garage door service / installation
Cabinet making / refurbishing
Aquarium installation
Secure package delivery box installation
Vehicle Services

Mobile oil change
Mobile car wash/detailing
Mobile tire sales/service
Mobile glass repair
Mobile mechanic
Mobile dent repair (paintless)
Mobile decal and wrap services
Locksmith
Event/Seasonal services:

Off premise bartending
Catering
Specialty food trucks (keep it simple and very fast)
Event DJ
Event management
Photography
Videography (wedding or corporate)
Photo booth rental
Porta Potty rental
Tents/Party rental
On demand cleanup crews
On demand junk removal / hauling
Casino tables and dealer rentals for events
Entertainment:

[Anonymous No.58999210]

>>58999200
Entertainment:

Hunting guides
Hiking tours
Biking tours
Event management
Party rentals
Personal care:

Mobile haircuts
Mobile makeup
Mobile hair styling
Mobile massage
Mobile Pedicure/Nails
Personal style consulting
Personal assistant
Trades/construction:

Electrical
Plumbing
Carpenter
General Contractor
Heating and air HVAC
Civil engineering
Structural engineering
Architecture
Asphalt / Concrete
Door/Window installation
Painting
Bridge Painting
Masonry
Carpet/Flooring installation/refinishing
Ceramic Tile installation
Fence installation
Auger Boring
Surveying
Septic tank install and service
Insulation installing (spray and standard)
Elevator installation and service
Asbestos removal
Welding
Warehouse storage rack installation
Roofing
Siding
Epoxy flooring / counter tops
Fire sprinkler system installer / detector installation
Excavation
Equipment operation
Pipe fitting
Business Services

Logo design
Graphic design
Videography
Drone Pilot
Customer service
Bookkeeping
Mobile Headshots
Cleaning
Bartending/Catering
Mobile fencing for festivals or construction sites
Porta potty rentals
Training video creation
Liquidation services
Furniture building (dorm, office, hospital, hotel, etc)

[Anonymous No.58999213]

>>58999210
Real estate transactions:

Home inspection
Realtor
Appraiser
Loan officer
Property manager
Vacation rental management
Thermal imaging (utility analysis)
House staging
Super niche services:

Home appliance repair
Beer line cleaning / keg tap services
Deep clean restaurant floors
Awning installation
Bathtub/shower reglazing
Boat Cleaning
Boat shrink wrapping
Boat repair/maintenance
RV / Boat winterizing
RV cleaning
RV pickup/delivery
Trophy animal mounting
Hunting dog training
Flood cleanup
Dock building
Forklift service/repair
Golf cart service/repair
Graffiti removal
Green home consultation
Acoustic insulation installation
Slushy machine servicing
Parking lot power cleaning
Lighting rod installation
Pool safety alarms
Private investigating
Security company
Limo company
Bush sculpting
Retail / Hospitality

Simple and efficient food trucks
Mobile retail pop ups
Mobile brick and mortar
Linen washing
Restaurant floor cleaning
Niche carpentry:

Building gun safes into walls
Closet build out
Home bar building
Egress window framing/installation
Home office build out
Wine cellar building
Sauna Building
Steam shower installation
Hidden safes and secret entry construction
Cubical building
Patio building
Fireplace building
Cistern/Water gatherer installation
Home sound room or studio build
Home stairlift installation
Urban farming systems
Custom beekeeping builds
Murphy bed building/installation

[Anonymous No.58999231]

I quit an office IT job a few months ago because it was an unbearable DEI hell hole. I've got enough savings to last me a year or more and thought I'll start up some small business that requires $10k or less.
I decided on Automotive Interior Repair. Leather, vinyl, cloth, plastic. Basic stuff, not entirely new upholstery. Did cold calling to the used car dealers in my area of which there are about 50 and I got positive feedback for the desire to have such a service provided. My buddy who owns a couple car lots told me about this idea. I was initially dismissive of the ideas but them came around to it. These used car dealerships want the car to look it's best for a quick sale. Almost all of them have no one that does these kinds of repairs. I saw a guy on youtube that does it and got inspired. Here is the guy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKP1xJPKu18&t=26s
I'm driving to a training class for this trade in Atlanta for 4 days. Cost: $2000. Tools appear to cost about $1000, another $1000 for supplies. I've got a minivan I'll work out of. If he can do it, I can do it. Anyone can do it.

[Anonymous No.58999235]

>>58999200
>sunny
>backwards hat
>no sunglasses
>no neck coverage
RIP bro who drinks hecking alcohol.

[Anonymous No.58999241]

Good thread though.

[Anonymous No.58999248]

>>58999241
Thanks.

I'm hoping it can stick around so we can do work towards some real off-line venture. My list is all off-line ventures. By all means please, anyone can add on whatever. I delved into tech stuff but I am actually want to not work in computers anymore. I am sick of them after doing it for 20 years. Also, I feel like I wasted my time making other people money. I want to make money for myself now.

[Anonymous No.58999258]

Pic Rel This book inspired me quite a bit. The Millionaire Fastlane: Crack the Code to Wealth and Live Rich for a Lifetime by MJ DeMarco. He really slaps you in the face with reality in regards to the concept of saving all your life so you can retire at 65. He calls it the slow lane. Roth IRA's. 401k stock market etc. Not that this doesn't work for people. It's just that for the vast majority that do retire after being frugal and investing (of which there are fewer and fewer), their lives are almost over. So, I said why not.

[Anonymous No.58999263]

>>58999258
To add, this book is for people that are already inclined to want to get away and do something. The average check out cashier is not going to get inspired by this. It is very readable and the guy talks like a layman. It is a good read.

[Anonymous No.58999270]

I'll add a small business idea to the thread to keep things going. Residential window washing. I did some research on this. And figured it out for those that don't like heights or getting on roofs. Get a water fed pole. It connects to a purification system like the ones sold here: https://xeroproducts.com/collections/xero-systems

You use the home owner's water connected to the water purifier that shoots the water up the pole to the brushes. You don't even have to use soap for most jobs, you scrum the filth on the window to loosen it up and it gets washed away by the streams of purified water. This water does not leave residue when it dries. That is the whole point of this device. The pole extends to reach even 2nd and even 3rd floor windows. $25 a window. Entire startup likely under $6k. Was about to do this but I was weary of holding a pole all day. If you are totally poor but have some enthusiasm to get started, try to get a micro-loan. Beg, borrow, etc.

[Anonymous No.58999305]

Of course pressure washing must be mentioned in any small business startup conversation. You might think the market is saturated but people are still making money starting these up. I found this comment from an old threat with one anon's recommendations on how to get started: https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/445160187/#445167382

Tricky thing about it is not damaging a home because these washers are powerful, and getting on roofs. So you could limit it to sidewalks, driveways, wooden fences, patios, brickwork. Avoid roofs, that is a different animal altogether with shingles. You have to softwash with lots of chemicals but that can be done too. You could have the home owner sign a waiver for potential exterior wall damage if they insist you pressure wash the house, but make sure to use a smaller, weaker, electric power washer. They do the job.

[Anonymous No.58999316]

>>58999258
This is one of the few books that I think is actually worth it, goes into actual rules about business and not just "think big and believe in yourself, andeverything will work out" bullshit

[Anonymous No.58999318]

i said it before, and i'll say it again
pickin up dog poop
all you need is a vacuum that straps to your back, and you're set

[Anonymous No.58999333]

Another good book to read is Think, and Grow Rich by Napoleon Hill. Hill got Andrew Carnegie to introduce him to all the big tycoons of that era and Hill interviewed them extensively as to how they achieved their fortunes and wrote the book. To summarize it I'll use Henry Ford's quote, "Whether you think you can or think you can't, you're right."
There is some esotericism in there as well with one chapter discussing semen retention, and how most of them practiced it. Not to get off topic but very interesting. So another reason to stop jerking it. Here is a good short interview with businessman Bob Proctor. The book changed his life and he goes into detail on how it can change yours as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E44kFkyl_Y8

Here is a longer interview with Bob Proctor but equally as inspiring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsrFT5WPybw

The Science of Getting Rich by Wallace D. Wattles is also very very good on this topic.

To sum up these early 1900's self-help (manifestation) books, it could be done so with this short book that is here in it's entirety of 15 minutes. It Works (1926) by RHJ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kju5bfjuKvY
Basically it is a hyper-condensed version of these kinds of books. So, just do what it says and you'll be on your way, apparently. I believe it. It is about a frame of mind.
So much of the time we fear failure and suffering, so we never even try. We have to believe in ourselves and certain success with no other options. And then it happens.
That's what I'm trying to do. My training class starts in 3 weeks. In the mean time I'll be cold-calling business, and print out some cards.

[Anonymous No.58999342]

>>58999318
You said it. Many stories of people making near 100k a year doing this. Best thing to do is get a subscription model going where you show up once a week to the house and pick up the dog shit. Put it in their trash can. Go to next house. $25 a week. Get 38 contracts and you now are bringing in $50k a year gross. Just make sure to do a parasite cleanse yearly :)

[Anonymous No.58999347]

>>58999316
Well said, I agree. This book is certainly not the usual self-help fare.

[Anonymous No.58999370]

>no more boss or manager. working for someone that tries to control your behavior. no more getting someone else rich while I get to just get by
>sense of self worth at building something and creating value that other people are willing to pay for
>provide for family in a way that is more manly

For a guy that has no post high school education, it's about the manliest thing you can do, is start your won business. Nothing against some trades man plumber making $150k working for someone. That dude us manly. But he'd be manlier if he started his own business.
For me, I have to thank my last two jobs where I worked for shit management at one, and DEI hell in the other. To give you an idea, my immediate supervisor and other co-worker in a 3 person shop, were both radical lesbians. I lasted there 3 months. I have to thank them because it really made me burn my boats and commit. I am not looking for another wage job. Also it helps if you save up for such an occasion, as I did. I likely would not have just up and quit if I didn't have some back up cash.

[Anonymous No.58999437]

Startup Ideas with Minimal Investment

What are some low-capital startup opportunities? One idea that comes to mind is residential gutter cleaning. To get started, all you really need is an 8-foot ladder (about $150), some lawn gloves ($30), a 5-gallon bucket ($10), and paper bags ($10).

You can secure the ladder to your vehicle and travel around neighborhoods, offering your services door-to-door. Aim for one job a day, then try to increase to two. Offer clients a discount on their next service if they refer someone else. Be sure to collect their contact information for follow-ups next year.

As an added bonus, you could gauge their interest in window cleaning for the future. If there’s enough demand, you could then invest in the necessary equipment and have ready-made clients. Charge around $125 for a standard home; many people might be willing to pay $150 to avoid doing it themselves.

Target areas with older homeowners, especially retirees who may struggle to handle ladders. Ask them when they last had their gutters cleaned; if it’s been a while, you can propose an inspection. If you find they need a thorough cleaning, you could quote $300 for the initial service, followed by a yearly maintenance plan at $150.

Eventually, you could scale up to two jobs a day, which could yield around $300—more than what many Americans earn in a typical day at their jobs.

[Anonymous No.58999485]

So for cheap startups we have dog poop cleanup, gutter cleaning, and here is another one - fence paining/staining. The thing I don't like about painting is that they won't be back as customers anytime soon. But you use the fence painting to offer other services. You already need to pressure wash the fence before you can paint it so tell them you can pressure wash their driveway/patio/brick. Now you have someone that will need you back next year to pressure wash those same things again. Same with gutters, ask to clean their gutters too for a discount since you are already there doing their fence. Put them on a year subscription model.
And the best part is you can just walk neighborhoods and see who has a wooden fence. So you're not just walking up to a random door trying to figure out if they could remotely need your services. You've already got someone that is a 50/50 chance of needing your services. Also ask if they might need window washing in future for an insta-profitable business a year later.
The fence painting part almost seems arbitrary but it provides you the capital to eat and grow while you create a subscription model for other stuff. Man I might do this myself if the other thing doesn't work.

[Anonymous No.58999522]

>>58999485
I'd like to elaborate some more on this fence painting idea. I'm starting to like this idea more and more. I might as well document it here so it might give someone else an idea as well. I didn't realize how easy it could be to paint a fence with a spray gun: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/SKr60pPzOII
Could even get jobs to stain decks. I hate painting but this appears to be relatively easy. You could easily complete one fence a day. I'm seeing the average price for fence painting is $450. So you could offer fence cleaning, painting, and staining. I know nothing about fence painting but I imagine it would need to be pressure washed first and wait a couple days for it to dry. Then come back and paint it. In the mean time you could clean their gutters, or pressure wash other before mentioned items for a discounted price and potential yearly subsciption. This appears to be a sub-$1k startup.
-spray gun system
-air compressor?
-PPE for breathing
-paint and supplies for each job
Since you'd be making money on each job you have capital for supplies for the next job.
Also offer a customer 15% of the revenue of any person they refer your services to. That's a quick $75 to them. Perhaps partner with a local fence company to get leads and offer them a cut. You could charge customer extra for having to trim branches off their fence. Shoot, add branch trimming to the list off additional services. I hate landscaping but I don't mind a little pole saw work. I have an electric pole saw from Lowes with extra batteries. The thing works surprising well.

[Anonymous No.58999529]

I will be monitoring this thread. I’ve been exploring self employment opportunities and I’d be so much happier if I can make one work.

An idea from a friend inspired me to offer a bong cleaning service. There are a lot of stoners in my area, it’s easy to cover the cost of supplies, and it’s easy work. My biggest problem is advertising. My best idea in that department is leaving business cards at the dispensaries around town.

[Anonymous No.58999533]

>>58999522
Also you could get with every realtor in the area and ask if they'd be interested in having any fences/decks painted or stained at any properties they are selling. Give them a discount so you get return business. Realtors may just want them pressure washed so they look good. A good cleaning can make them look like new. And a good staining even better. Leave door hangers at each house within 50 feet of a job site.

[Anonymous No.58999536]

>>58999200
I could probably do most of these but I'm afraid to advertise because I have social issues

[Anonymous No.58999551]

>>58999529
There you go, very interesting idea anon. Good thinking about how to market. Let's see...
Since you say dispensaries I take it you live in a state where it is legal with prescription. Same in my state. I understand you can actually get real marijuana from these places and not just vapes, tinctures, and edibles. This means that main-stream people are now imbibing. So you might try to advertise on Facebook marketplace or google. Depending on your startup capital.
Or, print business cards. Go to the parking lot of a dispensary, put a card on every car windshield there. Then go to another dispensary and do the same. When you've gone to each one in town, repeat from the beginning with a new set of cars. Bonus if you return and some people ripped a bong in the parking lot and you can offer services directly ;)
Get yourself a minivan and when you get a custom, do it on site, at their house, but in your car. Boom, you have a return customer. Key to all this is return customers. And pot people have friends that toke so word of mouth works there, and also offer them a free cleaning if they refer someone. Bring them homemade cookies on occasion as a gesture of appreciation for their business. That kind of stuff goes a long way.
Also get those wire signs that stick in the grass and stick them in grassy corners everywhere you can get away with it advertising your services. Call it Discreet Bong Cleaning or something. Find a way to up-sell these stoners something additional. Like walk their dogs if they are too stoned all the time to do it. There you got another subscription for a new service. Boom. Lets go boys more ideas like this anon.

[Anonymous No.58999564]

The dog poop idea is smart. I think I could make some easy money with it.

[Anonymous No.58999574]

>>58999536
Fair enough anon but dude, a lot of this stuff is where you talk to the customer just enough for them to tell you what they want. Then you go away and do your work and not get bothered or interact with people. I know what you mean about advertising, meaning, having to talk to people. You're going to have to break through that, or find another way. Read some of this books I mentioned above for some inspiration. But ultimately if no one knows about your service you aren't going to have customers.
Perhaps pick a startup where you can advertise door to door, then just go door to door and put your a door hanger on the door knob and walk away. Make sure it is one hell of a good door hanger. Do a hundred houses a day. Good exercise. Even better would be, if your startup does some kind of outdoor service like say, branch cleaning. Look around their property that is visible from the street and give them a quote on the door hanger.
>hi i'm bob with bob's branch trimming. I'd like to offer my services to trim some of your branches. If you'd be interested here is a quote for $175 to get your front yard looking sharp and clean. If they call you then you already made the sale. They probably will want you to do the back of the house to. Boom, potential customer next year or in 2 years. Dude you only live once. I think to win in life you have to become wealthy. Like a video game, you make money so you liberate yourself of materialistic concerns, and you win the game. You are already in the game and you are going to lose so there is my idea for people with social anxiety. Drop off door hanger with quote and walk away. If you look good put a picture of yourself on it and your name to make it personal. Make up story
>Hi I'm bob and I went to high school here and I want to trim your branches.

[Anonymous No.58999601]

>>58999533
As I think about it more, people that have fences or decks, know if they need it cleaned or painted or repaired. Unless they are letting the property fall to degrade and don't care, which makes it unlikely they have money to spend. So, it may just be enough to have a superb door hanger and just leave it on the door knob and walk away. But I think also, if you are just starting up, with no official business permit, and no tax documents, and basically you are playing the part of high school student trying to make some cash during the summertime, you're going to want to knock and talk to them. Maybe even just to say
>Hi I'm Steve and I'd like to leave you my card in case you need your fence or deck cleaned, painted, or stained. I could give you a quote if you're interested.
You may have to do 100 of these to get 1 job but it is certainly possible.

[Anonymous No.58999609]

>>58999305
Don’t wash vinyl walls like your pic related unless you are going to paint them after. Washing them with pressure like that will damage and oxidize them and leave a terrible finish. You have to soft wash with bleach

[Anonymous No.58999612]

I just thought up another gem - Residential Solar Panel Cleaning. Just drive through every neighborhood and look for solar panels. Lots of people that have them are liberals trying to save the Earth and they love to talk about how they are doing good things. Use that to your benefit when you do your sales pitch. Maybe have some quick comments on how much more efficient they are when cleaned. Just drive around and look for potential customers, and then go knock and you're already at a 50/50 chance of a potential customer as opposed to cold-knocking.
A lot of these people sell extra juce back to the power station so there are certainly records which houses participate. Do a freedom of information act on your local government utilities and ask for every home that is participating in such a program, or any solar panel related program. BOOM you now have a master list of every potential customer in town. Go make some re-occurring yearly subscriptions.
Also look for other things to up-sell these potential customers. Find out what kind of things people that use solar panels would need. Dissect their personality type and find out. Here are some up-sell ideas. Rain water harvesting. Compost for gardens, build above ground garden for them, electric bike services, efficiency window installation (i bet people that install solar panels would be interested in windows that keep in the temperature).

[Anonymous No.58999619]

Any ideas for remote jobs?

[Anonymous No.58999630]

>>58999619
Like working from home on a computer? You could be a virtual assistant. I don't know, haven't thought a lot about that. Maybe you could go collect dirty linen and jackets and scrubs from medical facilities and wash them at your home. You'd still have to leave your home to pick up and drop off. Hmmm...professional knife sharpening? Go to every restaurant in town (again you've got a 50/50 chance of success as opposed to cold-knocking) and do your sales pitch. If you get a customer pick up the knives and drop them off the next day. Best part about this again is, they will need them sharpened again. Once you have a customer, be the sweetest little angle you can be and do good work and you've got a customer for the long term. It is just a matter of getting more customers. Shoot, get a minivan and sharpen the knives on site in the parking lot and return them 30 minutes later nice and sharp. To be honest I don't know how feasible that is but maybe someone has made it work and you can copy them. Perhaps you could up-sell the restaurant by offering to clean the kitchen mats and floors professionally. Those floors are filthy and greasy as hell and could use a good cleaning once a month. BOOM, you now have a re-occurring customer. Or offer to clean their vent hood. Every restaurant has a vent hood and those things get nasty. Offer to come once a month to clean it professionally. Kitchen employees hate cleaning those things and half-ass it when they do. Do a freedom of information act request on your local government restaurant fire inspector to see who has marks against them for greasy vent hoods that can be a fire hazard. Go knock on their doors. Or just ask every restaurant you come across if you can professionally clean their vent hood. Make up a story about how your family used to own a restaurant and you know how. You may need to be a legit company to do this though, some businesses only do business with legit businesses for liability bullshit reasons.

[Anonymous No.58999641]

The vast majority of new businesses are unsexy. They are derivative. Proper execution and great service are enough to propel pretty much any business ahead of competitors. If you think you can deliver on those two things, then you have a decent shot at success. Also, always answer your phone or call right back ASAP. That'll put you ahead. If you get some busy that you cannot answer the phone, that is a problem you want to have. Get a virtual assistant to answer the phone and deliver a pre-programmed info to the prospective customer.
Even with the economy being shitty, there are people with money that need things done that they do not want to do themselves. I bet with the recent interest rate lowering by the FED, more houses will be sold and sold fast. It might be a good idea to find out what kind of services realtors need. If you can show one or a few how good you are at something you do for them, word of mouth will take over and you'll be getting calls. Perhaps see if you can offer a deep clean of houses about to go on sale. Trim the bushes and branches. Powerwash what needs it. Do a whole package for a price. Boom you have a realtor that will be coming back to you for more with the next house for sale.

[Anonymous No.58999652]

>>58999258
It also says you can't make anything from the markets. But I have 200,000 reasons why not, and all I did was sit around and jerk off.

[Anonymous No.58999667]

>>58999652
Good for you. I hope that 200,000 will go the distance for you and you'll never have to work again. Feel free to add any thoughts regarding small business ideas. Or feel free to share what you did to make money in the markets. Or go away.

[Anonymous No.58999726]

Apparently you can make a lot of money doing septic pumping services. And also pumping portable potties. The barrier though is the septic truck is really expensive to buy. But there may be lease options. From what I understand, septic pump truck services have never-ending demand. You'll be smelling shit all the time, likely get it splashed on you occasionally, and have to deal with lawns flooded with human excrement. But you'll be getting rich. I mean, that right there will make you wealthy in 5 years. If you have good credit, lease one. Take a training course on how to do it. Or go work for someone in another town and learn the trade. But it isn't very physically demanding. Well I hope this thread is still up in the morning. Hopefully this helps some people with ideas.

This is /biz/ and there is rarely anything going on here regarding starting a business so, perhaps I'll start up one of these threads on occasion. I'm thinking about going out to get a spray gun and start start knocking on doors.

If anyone knows anything about Automotive Interior Repair, please let me know. Like I said I've got a training class in a couple weeks and I'm sure I'll learn what I need to, but would be nice to hear some anecdotal stories and thoughts on someone that has done it.

[Anonymous No.58999765]

>>58999619
From what I've read, omce.you get good at voiceovers and audiobook reading you can make about $25/hr pretty comfortably from the comfort of your home. It's not amazing money, but if you're not into manual labor and want the freedom to work from any location in the world, it might be a good choice. It also means you don't have to interact face to face with anyone

[Anonymous No.58999821]

>>58999200
Things I've learned from being self employed for a few years:

Pick a good quality customer base. If your business is refinishing chrome rims, you can probably guess the drama you'll be dealing with on a daily business. Also, you will ironically get higher quality customers by charging more. Rich people value their own time and they will value yours as well. You don't want to be slaving away for minimum wage for somebody who's constantly going to whine about your prices and demand that you do extra stuff for free

Pick work you actually enjoy because you'll be doing it a lot. I tried trades for a while and absolutely hated it. The money was good but getting up at 4:30am got old super fast, as did being at the mercy of the weather. I switched fields and now I look forward to work every single day. I even prefer it over most vacations. We went to Cancun a few years ago and I remember sitting on the beach and missing work.

You will "own a job" for a while and have to work 3x as hard as you did in your 9-5 job. No more getting paid to spend hours browsing Tibetan salt mining forums.

If you scale to the point of having employees, you will simultaneously free up your own time and make yourself a slave. Now you have to provide work for your guys because they're depending on you to pay their bills. One of the reasons I chose to remain a one man show (after briefly having workers) is that I love the freedom to take a spontaneous week off if I feel like it.

Make time for friends and family. Once you get addicted to the hustle, it's easy to become a shut-in who only works and sleeps. It seems romantic but when you're older and have no meaningful relationships, more dollars in the bank will not mean much.

[Anonymous No.58999826]

>>58999821
cont

Find a wife who will be OK with your lifestyle. Mine came from a family where both parents are self employed so she understands hat sometimes I have to work innthe evenings and on weekends. In exchange, there are times when we can wake up on a random Tuesday and decide we're going out of town for a date day. While our friends are wagecucking and pleading with their bosses for a day off

[Anonymous No.58999845]

>>58999821
Thanks very much for your thoughtful input anon and helping keep the thread alive. I'm curious as to what you do but I guess you would have shared it if you wanted.
You sound like a real self-employed man. Can I ask you, have any advice for fear of failure causing apprehension to start a small biz?

[Anonymous No.58999902]

Convenient thread; I have a pretty massive collection of Playable and Collectable cards. Pokemon, Magic, Yughio, etc etc etc.
I have been considering opening up a local shop, but, I was curious what /biz/ thinks about the card market? Do you guys think this is a worth while endeavor? Are these cards going to retain their value over time, or, do you think they are going to end up like beenie babies? That's what my dumb ass friends said. That they are like beenie babies.

[Anonymous No.58999915]

>>58999902
what is going to happen to muscle cars when boomers die? that's your future. some very small % of any "thing" will be hyper collectible to people. most everything goes to shit.

luxury watch market 2 years ago, now some of the $1M watches are at a 50% discount.

[Anonymous No.59000100]

One of my goals is saving up like 50k and using some of it for a business. Just no idea what I would be good at. At the end of the day you gotta be good with people for 99% of businesses. And I'm straight up not

[Anonymous No.59000152]

>>59000100
You know, you don't need more than $100 to get the supplies needed to pick up dog shit. I was thinking about this yet more.

So there are 13 four-week periods in year. So once you get a customer get them on a subscription. Charge $75 per residential customer per 4 week period. In this case, every 4 weeks. Not ever month. Just put it on your email calendar the day you do their first service, and set for reoccurring ever 4 weeks. This means you will make $975 from each customer every 365 days. So $50,000 divided by $975 = 51. You need 51 subscribed monthly customers to make $50k a year in revenue. I bet overhead is 10% or less. So there you just made $45k in profit for the year. Of course you have to scale to that level but how hard can it be to get 51 people to be you customer. You might have that many by 3 months time by canvasing daily and doing a good job. Then word of mouth kicks in and it takes off. Also if you had 51 customers to service every 4-week-cycle, and wanted to work only 5 days a week, you would need to attend 2.55 accounts daily for 5 days. Think of the free time you'd have. Doesn't take long to do one house. Under 30 minutes I'd think. But better yet, get them all done within 3 days and relax the other 4. Or don't, and keep hustling. I bet with a few hundred dollars in targeted facebook ads you'd get more subscriptions faster. Possibly go into grocery stores and put business cards in between the large bags of dog food. Go to veterinarian offices ask them to refer you. Hand out cards at dog parks. I think there are a lot of single women that don't walk their animals that would need this service so pay for targeted ads for your city subreddit with reddit.com. My neighbor is a divorcee with single teenage daughter. Both disgusting beasts that have 4 large dogs that only shit out back. Need to crack the code to find these kinds of people. Might be able to offer fly catching services to neighbors by setting up outdoor fly traps.

[Anonymous No.59000154]

>>58999270
I've done window cleaning and have used one of these before, they're pretty great, and the window washing business is fast, it's mostly driving. You'll spend more time inside the owners home cleaning around the window frame then you will actually wiping the windows, trying to get into the nooks and crannies. Also, the pole isn't that heavy, and its even less heavy when it's leaning against a window.

[Anonymous No.59000161]

>>59000154
Anon thanks for this info. Was there good money in it when you did it? How would you advise someone do marketing if they have the startup capital? Do you think it is enough to start with a water fed pole, and the walter purifying system that you can pull on wheels around the property as you work? A few chemicals. Tell us some more if you may.

[Anonymous No.59000174]

I'm reading this book at present. I'm 40% into it. This guy writes honestly and my bullshit detector has not gone off yet. And I've read a lot of these business and self help type books. I'll let you all know how it goes. A book report, if you will lol. Hopefully this thread is still around. I read a similar book "Wake up and smell the real estate" and that author was doing a very similar thing but this Dirt Rich author already sounds more refined in his approach. We'll see....

[Anonymous No.59000249]

>>58999200
How feasible would it be to build a small data centre, or should I not bother? Like maybe 100 machines at most

[Anonymous No.59000263]

>>59000249
AI answer. Do you have at least $525k (mean of below two numbers), just to establish the data center? Did you consider all of the factors outlined below?
Go for it if you have the capital and know how.
Servers:

Cost: $1,000 to $3,000 per server
Total: $100,000 to $300,000
Networking Equipment:

Switches, routers, firewalls
Cost: $10,000 to $50,000
Cooling Systems:

HVAC systems or CRAC units
Cost: $20,000 to $100,000
Power Infrastructure:

UPS systems, generators
Cost: $20,000 to $50,000
Racks and Enclosures:

Cost: $10,000 to $30,000
Cabling and Wiring:

Cost: $5,000 to $15,000
Physical Security:

Access controls, surveillance
Cost: $5,000 to $20,000
Fire Suppression Systems:

Cost: $5,000 to $15,000
Monitoring and Management Tools:

Software and licenses
Cost: $5,000 to $20,000
Site Preparation and Construction:

Lease, renovation, and setup costs
Cost: $50,000 to $200,000
Total Estimated Cost:
>Low-End Estimate: ~$235,000
>High-End Estimate: ~$800,000

[Anonymous No.59000269]

>>59000161
I was just low ambition employee, I'm looking at getting into it today myself. I don't remember every detail, but it's a really simple setup. There is tons of youtube videos on it. The hard part is probably just pricing the jobs correctly so that you can get paid and get work.

[Anonymous No.59000272]

>>59000161
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiQVj2Hxkno

I mean you can see it's just some hoses and then rubbing it against the window. It isn't rocket science.

[Anonymous No.59000274]

>>59000263
That’s cheaper than franchising a restaurant here LOL

Alright, that’s not too bad, thanks. Btw for AI LLM etc, is it the same, or am I looking at a “render farm”?

[Anonymous No.59000305]

>>59000269
>>59000272
When I was researching the window washing biz there is a guy on youtube that does it for a living and posts videos including one where he shows his pricing method. Here i think this is it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keE03uXSYaI

>>59000274
You know, I wonder if it is worth it to try to open a restaurant to make money when there are opportunities like picking up dogshit to make $100k a year. No joke.
My dad had a restaurant selling a particular European cuisine years ago. I've always liked the idea of having people over to eat good food for a good price.
>Btw for AI LLM etc, is it the same, or am I looking at a “render farm”?
no idea

[Anonymous No.59000318]

>>59000305
Nah restaurants nowadays are for rich trust fund kids to “try their hand at managing a business” with mommy/daddy’s money. Unless you really have the passion to cook. I actually agree more with your dog poop business, it’s something like that “dirty truth” job video (you should watch it if you haven’t).

[Anonymous No.59000333]

To add to the restaurant notion, I think I have a damned good idea at a niche type restaurant that would explode if my theory is correct. I think a lot of people are getting keen to the dangers of consuming seed oils. It's in almost everything at the grocery store and in everything at any restaurant. It used to be used as lubricant in internal combustion engines. It causes massive inflammation in the human body and can takes years to get it out of one's system. It's basically the cause of the top 3-5 reasons of death in the USA and they are just now figuring it out after promoting "vegetable" oils for health.
So start a place that uses only animal fats and olive oil. No poison oil at all. Deep fried food in tallow or duck fat. Doesn't have to be organic or anything. JUST NOT SEED OILS. Everything is already expensive when eating out, why not a little more and you know you are getting healthy food, that is, food that is not killing you. Imagine a burger and fries, with a Mexican coca-cola. They use sugar and not high fructose. So basically use all ingredients that were used at a diner in the 1920's. That's it. And charge accordingly. Now the hard part is funding. Or maybe that is the easy part. Get enough to start and run the place for a year with no projected income for the first year. If it seems to work, keep going. If not, shut down. I even have a good idea on service too.

[Anonymous No.59000364]

>>59000333
As for service, just open from 4pm to 9pm, Thursday to Sunday. It would be a cafeteria with made to order stuff on request. I was in air force and our dining facilities were excellent. You go in, there is a set menu of the day with multiple main courses and sides. It would be behind glass and you would ask and it would be put on the plate and handed to you over the protective glass to put on your tray. You can also ask for a special order like a burger and fries, or steak where you get a number to put on your table and it would be brought to you. Now that I think of it it sounds like Chipotle type service. But I believe the servings should be plentiful and the price should reflect that. Sometimes you attract more money with a more expensive, but quality, product. Anyway that being said, you've got to be ready to put up with a lot of work. Should people get into restaurants because they love it or because they want to make money. I don't know...

[Anonymous No.59000406]

>>58999915
This is kind of a bad take, imo.
Card games like magic the gathering have been around so long that they keep bringing in new customers through dynamic mechanics in the game. Every generation of people who play the game have different experiences coupled with those mechanics and that point in time.

Pokemon TCG has millions of different players of all kinds of age brackets. Comparing it to muscle cars is a false equivalency.

[Anonymous No.59000460]

>>58999915
>what is going to happen to muscle cars when boomers die?
Hello saaaar, I will buy this Mustang for $125,000 saaar

The boomers dying will be a huge opportunity, they are currently hoarding everything with the "I know what I got" mentality preventing them from selling. Once they're out of the picture there will be a lot of room to swoop in and resell their stuff to rich millenials

My point is, there is usually demand for everything. What you don't want to do is over l-stock on one thing and risk being the guy who spent his life savings on fidget spinners right before they went out of style. And even he could probably turn a profit if he has diamond hands to store them until 2030 when the fad flares up again

[Anonymous No.59000464]

>>58999200
Kneepads

[Anonymous No.59000506]

>>58999200
Please let this thread be a thing from now on… make it a general or smth. We need some down to earth, pure shit like this. Keep up the good work OP!

[Anonymous No.59000565]

>>58999200
Dang… the more i delve into this thread the more i have to say it - OP you’re an absolute angel! Doing gods work here. Love the effort and energy. Best thread on biz since forever.. real talk

[Anonymous No.59000587]

>>58999619
Data science consulting.

Go to sales companies that have more leads than salespeople and pitch them AI salesmen that can start the sales process so the salesmen can focus on closing.

It takes about $300 on cloud computing +llc costs and less than a month to get started if you know what you’re doing

[Anonymous No.59000594]

>>58999200
Professional knob slobbing

[Anonymous No.59000603]

>>59000506
>>59000565
Thanks a lot man. I appreciate the feedback as I have really put a lot of effort into this thread. Not looking for pats on the back. I have just constantly been disappointed coming to /biz/ and never seeing anything worthwhile regarding small biz startups. I just want to talk everything small biz and share ideas to help ourselves and others become more stable in life, and possibly wealthy. At the very least, get to a point where we can work for ourselves and enrich our wallets and lives. I hope more people contribute. I don't know what criteria makes a thread get nuked but, so far so good. I'm still pondering the dogshit cleaning idea. I think to myself, can it be that easy? I'm seeing videos on you tube of people making close to $100k or more doing this after a year and a half or two. I have to admit, I'm lazy and picking up dog shit seems so simple. I think I could get past the smell lol. I mentioned to my wife doing that and she gave me a dirty look and said, "you need to be applying to IT jobs" LOL. Yeah right.

[Anonymous No.59000622]

>>59000406
the world is about to go through the largest population collapse outside of natural disasters EVER.

your false equivalency claim is AIDS. because automobile collecting has been around for longer than magic cards LMAO. think seriously about who has more purchasing power, a porsche collector or a magic card guy.

>>59000460
all their shit will be for sale. including any damn magic cards they got. into a smaller and poorer demographic: millenials. let's say a 69 mustang in pristine condition purchases the equivalent of a house today. in the future, millenials will desire a house more than a mustang. so the mustang might go down in purchasing power to half a house.

you're not reselling peak BOOMER cost doodads to millenials who can barely afford their mortgage payments.

[Anonymous No.59000654]

>>59000318
>Nah restaurants nowadays are for rich trust fund kids to “try their hand at managing a business” with mommy/daddy’s money
There is a way around this - start small in your kitchen doing take-out and catering. There are plenty of people making side money selling cakes, macaroni, lumpia, etc on Facebook Marketplace. You can start with one or two things and as you gain a customer base you can invest in some commercial equipment and eventually lease a restaurant space.

Another option is to git gud at one thing and run it as a cart, like a mini food truck. If you pick a high margin item like coffee or snow cones you can make a killing at festivals, farmers markets, etc.

[Anonymous No.59000662]

>>59000622
>you're not reselling peak BOOMER cost doodads to millenials who can barely afford their mortgage payments.

Idk senpai, I've been making a decent living doing exactly that for the past 4 years, with revenue increasing every year. But you do you

[Anonymous No.59000689]

>>59000662
4 years bro. i'm talking in 10 years when boomers straight up die. and their estates decide to sell everything because the inheritors don't care about the mustang that smells bad and doesn't run right.

there's eventually going to be a supply glut because people are DEAD. you sound like amazon FBA gurus a few years ago. something working for a few years is completely unimpressive.

[Anonymous No.59000695]

>>58999200
To be very honest I doubt any small business is viable anymore.
Who has disposable income like that in this economy?

The only way to make money nowadays is to become a grifter of some type. How blatant is up to you.

What did you think instathots, youtubers, "influencers" actually are?

The biggest cash cow to me was to become a landlord but that's upfront and if you get a nigger tenant its over.


I'm just saying there is no making a living anymore unless there is some element of screwing the customer or someone else over.

[Anonymous No.59000701]

>>58999200
Install security systems, then sell the addresses & passcodes to niggers, then wait outside and follow the niggers after they rob the place to steal whatever they took, so you can make triple profits.

[Anonymous No.59000702]

>>59000622
>millenials will desire a house more than a mustang

going back to this book I am reading here >>59000174

this guy is going into good detail on how to buy land cheap. I'm still reading of course but I've had this thought previously - buy some land, clear it, drill a well, install power, and put in 4-6 tiny/small houses on wheels. These seem better than a traditional mobile home that seems to fall apart in 10 years. Target market: millenials and gen z that want to own property and not rent forever. Make it to where they can have this tiny house and a small plot of land for under $150k. Do seller financing so I would hold the title until the loan is satisfied (I'd be technically loaning them the money). Have them put down 15-20% down. Give them a low interest rate like for example in today's market, give them a 4% interest rate on the balance that should be paid within 10-12 years unlike the usual 15-20 years, whereas it is like 5.5% from the banks. Remember, I bought the land cheap. Made my money on the buy end already. The good thing here is I get to make money but also the wage slave buyer/millennial/gen z gets to own a home and property, for less than what the market provides. I think people would flock to such deal. Me personally, I am a claustrophile so I love the small home idea. I like that this idea leaves some fat on the hog for others to be happy as well. And it is passive income. And you can re-sell the property if they miss a certain amount of payments and default. No tenants. No rehab. Just improve property and sell it to a thankful new homeowner. I don't like the idea of usury but it's better than the alternative. This is the future, affordable property for such people. Give the dwindling working class a chance to be in a better spot and society gets better overall.

[Anonymous No.59000705]

>>59000701
Best part is the free advertising: everyone wants to buy security systems when niggers rob their neighbors.

[Anonymous No.59000815]

OP here phone posting.

Here is another idea. Pour molten aluminum into an underground ant colony. Wait a day. Dig it up carefully. Sell it on Facebook/craigslist/local market as art. Natural art. My buddy has one that looks like this: https://www.epidemicfun.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/aluminium-fire-ant03-600x450.jpg


Sell them as ant colony Christmas “trees” that you can decorate and also keep out all year as living room art. Start a trend.


Or laser 3d scan it and print out 3d replicas to sell online. I wonder if anyone is doing that.

[Anonymous No.59000975]

>>59000622
Lmao, oh, never mind, you are just a retard skitzo I see.

[Anonymous No.59001033]

>>59000695
>>59000689
I remember being like this during the last 2008-2011 recession
>it's ogre for real this time
>no point in saving money, the dollar will be toilet paper in a few years
>no point in buying a house, they'll be giving them away for free soon
I ended up just buying freeze dried food and waiting for the apocalypse. 10 years later, that food expired and I was way behind my peers who had taken advantage of everything going on sale. Don't be like me.

>but it's different this time
Sure thing, bud. New paradigm

[Anonymous No.59001531]

>>59000815

I feel that's a only a thing you can get away with if you own a large tract of land. If you're going around pouring molten aluminum into ant hills in a public park, I think that's a great way to get arrested.

[Anonymous No.59001545]

>>59000152
Dog shit pickup is hard. You end up needing to compete with lawn care companies while offering none of their services.

[Anonymous No.59001552]

>>59001033
Millennials and zoomers aren't going to want the crap that the boomers have. It is going to be a bloodbath. I'd avoid boomer junk like the plague.

[Anonymous No.59001621]

>>59001545
Could you please elaborate? This is the kind of anecdotal information that is needed for people considering such ventures.
>compete with lawn care companies while offering none of their services.
how?

Here is another idea, install raised bed gardens. But how to get a subscription from them? Like before, up-sell them on power washing, gutters, tree trimming, etc. Also you can offer to come yearly to re-fertilize the soil. Shoot, remember people had gardens for cheaper food so one might think that the purpose of a garden is defeated if you pay someone hundreds to install one for you. But, they weren't being slow killed by glyphosate and poisoned food like we are today.
Healthy food is now a luxury and people that have the money pay for it.
Sell wealthy people the garden experience. Install raised bed gardens on their property. Fill with dirt, plant the seed for them or better yet, seedling that you've grown at your house. come back when they need to be tethered to a stick. plant all sorts of veggies. make it to where all they need to do is water the plants. And even then, perhaps install a drip irrigation system to water it for them on some kind of auto timer. Get yourself 15-25 wealthy clients and you're golden, instead of opening a farm with organic food you have to grow, harvest, transport, and sell, you just let your target consumer o all of that on their own property and they can tell their friends how cool and healthy they are and give their neighbors surplus. Just drive around to each client to make sure things are going well. After the initial investment to set up, they just pay you a yearly fee to re-plant and fertilize, and maintain through the growing season. BOOM.

[Anonymous No.59001664]

>>59000695

Plenty of viable and profitable enterprises out there. The problem is that no one wants to do the leg work of researching opportunities and in a culture where millennials and zoomers are raised on participation trophies, there's an enormous fear of failure. No one wants to take risks.

>>59001033

This

Forget what the market is doing. There are always opportunities regardless of the economic environment, in fact, when shit is bad is when there are more opportunities to get ahead. To quote an old Chinese proverb: "Loot the burning house."

[Anonymous No.59001672]

>>59001621
To elaborate on this, sell them the Homestead Experience. Your target audience will be wealthy people exclusively. Probably rich middle aged millenials and older. Make your services scarce buy limiting the amount of homesteads you will build in one year. Also, takes a lot of manpower. These people often have large acreage that has nothing being done to it besides paying a ladscaper to mow it. They often live in secluded gated properties. Sell them the idea that they will be self sustaining and have healthy food in uncertain times. Initial cost to setup something like $25k for multiple raised bed gardens. Bonus if they want you to install a chicken coop with chickens that you need to come by to feed. Then a yearly fee to refresh with fertilizer and new plants. After some time you may have enough mini-homesteads to maintain that you hire someone to basically go around and feed some chickens or rabbits and pull a weed or two. Plants grown themselves. Install a compost bin, and rainwater harvesting system. Shoot, maybe get to the point where you install off-grid solar to stored hydrogen gas powered setup. But let me not digress. $25k for them is peanuts but self sufficiency is the real service you are providing them. Add training classes for them to know how to run things if the lights go out. As their dollar quickly loses value, rich people would see this as a great investment to use the buying power they have now to support them in the future. Word gets out and they come begging you to do their place next. then you get to name your price and rub elbows with people that have money for your other ideas.

[Anonymous No.59001741]

>>59001672
To add to this yet more, all that food is going to need to be eaten, preserved, or sold. Perhaps you could sell canning preservation lessons, or even offer to can stuff and sell it at market for them. Or sell their produce at market for a cut. This makes me think of the show Silicon Valley where the main character has some algorythm that uses people's individual mobile devices to do mass-computer. So instead of at a 1 datacenter, it was all being processed on millions of mobile devices. Instead of one farm we have dozens or more where things are grown. You get a cut of the action for keeping everything running. And you also get good clean vegetables, eggs, and meat. Have an army of well paid hippies to go around and keep it maintained. Subscription model based homesteading. Again in the book Dirt Rich, the author says the perfect business has the following attributes:
>No physical inventory
non of it is yours, it's their
>A one-time sale and then recurring revenue
set up the initial homestead for a hefty price then maintain with reoccurring payment
>Built-in pain or hassle for the customer to opt out of that service or product
if they stop paying it is all going to rot and animals will not be fed, they need you
>A niche without competitive pricing pressures
one you get them onboard, you're not competing against and product, it's all theirs, you are just helping them maintain it or preserve it or sell it. Create a co-op and be the go to guy for them all.

[Anonymous No.59001893]

Here is a manufactured item idea I have. A gooseneck wall mounted mobile device holder. It mounts to the wall behind your bed and hangs over you above your head. You place your mobile device into the cradle at the end of the gooseneck. Like what uber drivers use, but the gooseneck is much longer and has good structural integrity/tension so you can have it at the desired distance in front of your face as you lay so as to watch videos, and the tension holds and it stays there. Works just ask well if you are laying on your side it can bend to your desire location in front of your face and swivel on an axis. It has power to charge your device as it is cradled. Now here is the unique part about the cradle, it has a cupped end where the external device speaker is located, amplifying the sound via resonance, directionality, and reflection. Much like the bowl part of a soup spoon. You sell custom cradles like this just like there are custom protective cases for every make and model. This way you get a boost in audio as you lay your life away watching mind rotting woke sitcoms because the audio will be amplified all aimed at your head. Shoot I would buy that now so I won't have keep holding the goddamn thing for hours with a flexed elbow. Or having to take a break so as to charge. Imagine how much money neurosurgeons are making having to fix all sorts of nerve issues from holding these devices. Sell it as a device that prevents ulnar carpel nerve issues. I would try to do this myself now but I have no idea how to get the damn thing started or how to manufacture it or partner with a manufacturer. If someone could get me some ideas on how to do that, that would be great. Or if you steal this idea, go forth and be wealthy. Would be cool to see an idea go from thought to reality.

[Anonymous No.59001983]

I want to open a sensory deprivation tank business but all lenders want me to sign a personal guarantee and interest rates are high.

I think it's help people given how crazy and stressed everyone is.

[Anonymous No.59002018]

I'm not a private eye. I just find people. I look everywhere. $3444 a week. 7 days. I'll find them dead or alive. I do this already.

[Anonymous No.59002023]

>>59001033
do you not understand boomers dying is permanent. this is not like 2000/2008. you're first going to see the social security fund become insolvent. they already know this. they know the exact year this is going to happen. all the countries around the world have basically been collecting SS taxes but comingling the funds to pay for other government programs.

then boomers are going to attempt to fund their retirements by selling their shit. except boomers have made millenials so poor the millenials can't buy their shit. everything will be for sale. everything will drop in price in terms of actual purchasing power.

finally, boomers simply die. most of their houses are reverse mortgaged to fund the extravagant lifestyles you see now with their 5 limited edition corvettes. whatever is left of their estates will be bid by the remaining population who simply are grateful to have a house for the first time in 20 years. they won't give a fuck about your boat, magic cards, pokemon and mustangs. remember price doesn't equal purchasing power. if a loaf of bread is $50 who gives a fuck about your $1000 magic card. $ price going up nominally is literally an illusion to make retards feel good. and it works.

[Anonymous No.59002096]

>>59001983
>sign a personal guarantee and interest rates are high
What a scam they want you to make sure their money printed out of thin air is safe. Can you find alternative funding? Sounds like you don't have any collateral. From what I head, if you have decent credit you could get a business line of credit.

>>59002018
pretty cool. care to share any tricks of your trade?

I'm watching this lady on youtube talk about how she opened her first pizza joint for $15k in a 150 square foot kitchen. She imports par-cooked neapolitan pizza dough from Italy so no dealing with raw dough. Her ovens are Italian imported countertop and ventless. She requires no vent hood, nor grease trap. She is basically shredding cheese, chopping up toppings, and opening cans of tomato sauce, putting it on partially cooked dough and cooking it for 2 minutes and you've got yourself a facsimile of an Italian neapolitan pizza. Very interesting concept. And she is racking in the "dough". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GmH3_dxpew

[Anonymous No.59002140]

>>59001664
i'm not saying there's no risk and ofc its alot of hard work but

given how competitive everything is and how bad the economy is

you gotta be slick like a used car salesman in addition to all that

[Anonymous No.59002151]

>>59002096
Just talk to a lot of people for leads. Take every job. Use social media like a mad cunt. 1/3 of the $1,148 due at start. 3 days later the next 1/3 is due. The final day present all your findings over a business lunch and collect the remaining 1/3. It's easy. Lots of driving. Some people just don't want to be found.

[Anonymous No.59002413]

>>59000702
Your idea is good but you must account for zoning BS in most places.

If it's not a single family home you will not be allowed to build it sadly in many places.

[Anonymous No.59002431]

>>59002096
>What a scam they want you to make sure their money printed out of thin air is safe. Can you find alternative funding? Sounds like you don't have any collateral. From what I head, if you have decent credit you could get a business line of credit.
Actually yes I poked around and I was in the Army so there's some veterans opportunities with the SBA.

I've got a house and stocks and blahblahblah but I'd rather gamble with someone else's money. And every business is a gamble.

[Anonymous No.59002458]

>>59002431
bro, if you were in the military and got honorably discharged, use the VA home loan program. You can get up to like $700k for a home. You must intend for it to be your primary residence for at least a year. No down payment is required and they don't charge mortgage insurance. Here is how you hack this to get wealthy
>but a multi-home property
>like a 4 unit building, with each unit being 2bed 2 bath for example
>you live in one unit qualifies as you living on the property
>you collect rent from the other 3 units
the rent from the 3 units more than covers the mortgage. you will be living for free basically as they pay off your bank loan. Also you will be on site so you can keep on eye on things.
After 1 year move out and rent out your unit and go repeat the process. I think there is a $700k cap at how much can be owed by you at one time, but you can have multiple VA loans as long as they don't go over the cap. But with buying multi-family units, you'll reach the cap quickly. But still, they are paying off your note.

[Anonymous No.59002465]

>>59002458
>>59002431
to add to this, the 3 rent incomes should cover the mortgage, property insurance, and taxes. Make sure you figure out the rent for the units correctly. You should also put aside your "rent" for when the AC unit breaks for everyone or something else needs to be repaired, as that will fall on you to do

[Anonymous No.59002480]

>>58999342
Why is 88 to 436ib represented in mountains?

[Anonymous No.59002493]

>>59002480
>Why is 88 to 436ib represented in mountains?
likely to illustrate in the mind of the reader that the amount of shit a dog can make in one year can be like a mini-mountain of shit if you were to imagine it being all in one place at one time. Especially for a larger dog.
You're probably NGMI but keep trying. Just kidding man. If you're thinking going the dog shit cleaning route, you can do it and you can make it and be self employed. Do it!

[Anonymous No.59002686]

Yo gents, I'm the admin of the Entrepreneurship /entg/, just and network with your 4chan bros that own their small businesses.

We have our monthly voice chat call next weekend

discord.gg<slash>6fmFqdGa

[Anonymous No.59002698]

>>59002686
cool. thanks.

[Anonymous No.59002702]

>>58999200
reposted from other thread

Buyer centric online 2nd hand retail. You know how you have to fight tooth and nail to put "ISO" posts on fb marketplace and it sucks other places? Just make a buy order platform that with-holds whatever your max purchase price is and then sellers basically send you fulfillment offers with pics and descriptors and whatever. I even mocked up a UI for it, but I wheel and deal, I'm no dev and I don't have the money to deploy it. You could put marketplace and CL in the fucking ground and at this point I don't care if I'm the one to take credit just make the shit please

[Anonymous No.59002704]

didint read the thread but mushroom farmer / shrimp simp guy here. pic unrelated. i hate this board. the only real g's are in these threads. what's up senpai.

[Anonymous No.59002709]

>>58999231
hey, bookmarking. can't trade

[Anonymous No.59002711]

>>58999258
how old? if under 55, it's too late imo. good book but should be obvious by

[Anonymous No.59002716]

>>58999316
>>58999347
lol faggot selling xboxes and giving handjobs discovered

[Anonymous No.59002729]

>>59002702
go to fiverr or upwork and get some developers in russia or some eastern block country to work on it. Just guide them as they show you progress. Then do a lot of reading on how to market the site. Great idea.

[Anonymous No.59002748]

>>59002729
hey, how do you get help like that.

[Anonymous No.59002753]

im black

[Anonymous No.59002762]

>>59002753
ok and?

[Anonymous No.59002777]

>>59002729
Damn, there's an idea. A prototype would go a long way in generating interest or potential financial support. Thanks anon, much appreciated.

[Anonymous No.59002786]

>>59002762
don't be a dipshit. go the fuck away you are shitting up the board. I'm not bothering with your drivel.

[Anonymous No.59002796]

I've been monitoring this bread for some days and you guys have pretty good ideas. I mean had until one point, where most of your ideas became too expensive to start without tens of thousands in initial investment.
Here's a good one I'm considering myself. Since I'm working with reverse osmosis water purification systems, I have a database and easy access to clients. I get like 120 clients a month and most of them are living in flats, meaning I have access to that building (and mailboxes of their neighbours). This way establishing a pipe (drain) cleaning unclogging business shouldn't be as hard for me. All you need is these two things in my picrel to start with flats (houses are a different beast, so forget about it for now). I can make 1k visit cards for 70€ and flyers 1k for 100€ so all together 330-350€ to get it going. Since I've been into water purification business for a decade, I know for sure a shit load of people have their pipes clogged and nobody to call. You can charge 50-100$ for a visit and it takes up to 30min to unclog a regular pipe (camera inspection included). So do your math. As gross as it sounds, it's not a dirty job. Once you save up 5-7k, you can get your hands on some industrial RIDGID or Spartan machines and then your income will quadruple since now you can do houses, restaurants (you can't imagine how often their pipes get clogged) and even factories and so on.

[Anonymous No.59002803]

>>59002023
I for one can't wait to get an immaculate Harley with 10,000 miles on it for 2,000 dollars. So many Harleys are out there, more being made every year and only boomers buy them

[Anonymous No.59002843]

>>59002796
> I mean had until one point, where most of your ideas became too expensive to start without tens of thousands in initial investment.
It's small business. For some small is $250. For others it is $10k.
Anyway, good idea you've got there and sounds like you have your foot halfway through the door. In the US, plumbers video-inspect pies and use a "snake" to unclog. I don't recall having seen a service that just does those two things you are doing. If I cannot unclog it myself, I am calling a fully licensed plumber. But sounds like it is different in your country. You seem to have some gumption. Good luck in your endeavor and extra points for the low starting costs.

[Anonymous No.59002977]

>>59002803
>boomers buy them
funny you brought this up. HD is a dying brand. a preview of what's to come for boomer assets.

2000 price = 2024 price
no gains after 24 years of holding.

[Anonymous No.59003225]

How would you turn programming skills into your own business?

[Anonymous No.59003238]

>>58999231
Well done anon

[Anonymous No.59003252]

>>59000622
This. These NPCs don’t understand generations.

[Anonymous No.59003258]

>>59001033
Stop it asshole you’re not even replying directly to anon’s points.

[Anonymous No.59003406]

>>59000174
>I'm reading this book at present.
I finished. Very good book. But it was a sales pitch for his $700 program. Still, it is likely very much worth it because he explains his system so well. He's created a whole support system with apps and such for $60 a month. You don't have to do the $700 class. This really is probably the way to go. He sums up the concept of the book as such:
"Solo economic dependency means if you aren’t working, you aren’t making any money. It’s not good. Get out of solo economic dependency by doing this: buy assets pennies on the dollar. Sell those assets on a subscription basis for passive income. Repeat ad infinitum."
He explains quite well how to buy a property and then sell it for 300% markup within 30 days. Haven't done it but apparently lots of his students have.
I am convinced this is the way to go. I am going to start as soon as the county opens for business monday morning. I recommend the book. I'm going to follow through with my Automotive Interior Repair training, still. There is this saying from the old world that kind of translates like this - Learn the skill and put her down, and when you get hungry pick her up.

>>59003238
thanks

[Anonymous No.59003490]

>>59000702
>Do seller financing so I would hold the title until the loan is satisfied (I'd be technically loaning them the money).
This is contract housing and an incredibly shitty deal that no one should ever take. Mortgages make you a slave to the bank, but there are certain protections for such home"owners". Under your scheme, a single missed payment could lose them the house and all its equity. This is how you get on 60 Minutes as the featured rural slumlord for their report on homelessness in the US in 2035.

[Anonymous No.59003577]

>>59003490
>Mortgages make you a slave to the bank, but there are certain protections for such home"owners".
What protections? None. I have a mortgage with Wells Fargo. If I stop paying my mortgage I will default on my loan. The bank then eventually forecloses on the home and sells it to recover the balance of the loan. I would receive nothing from he sale. I will receive none of the money I put towards the principle. Just by the premise of your comment I can tell you do not understand how it works.

>Under your scheme, a single missed payment could lose them the house and all its equity.
Wrong. It would be seller financed and I would be the seller. That means I can make the terms and the buyer can agree to them or not participate in the deal. There is no law where I am at that forces me to recover the property and evict the tenant for 1 missed payment. I could let them miss 12 payments if I wanted to. That's the point, I would be the financier, not some bank.

>This is how you get on 60 Minutes as the featured rural slumlord
Wrong again. Slumlord? I ain't renting shit. This is property that has had ownership transferred from me, to the buyer. I'm just letting them pay me over time and not requiring them to pay all at once since they don't have the money. You know, like what people try to do by getting loans from banks, which in this example, many cannot even while gainfully employed. Do you call banks slumlords? If anything, I am adding a human touch to the experience by making property available for those that would otherwise be unable to pay for it because they don't have all the money to pay cash and cannot get a loan. So instead of offering them seller financing at a reasonable rate, they should live on the street, or continue paying rent to their current landlord, or are you advocating I rent the property to them.

Don't be a dipshit and convey your own private false reality to others. People like you used to be castrated.

[Anonymous No.59003618]

>>59003577
>The bank then eventually forecloses on the home and sells it to recover the balance of the loan.
This is the protection. There's a foreclosure process, and getting close to or entering it triggers a number of second-order protections, based on where you live. (For example, housing aid orgs might be authorized to issue you grants to bring you current and keep you in your home.) Even if you're foreclosed on, there's then an eviction process.
>That means I can make the terms and the buyer can agree to them or not participate in the deal. There is no law where I am at that forces me to recover the property and evict the tenant for 1 missed payment. I could let them miss 12 payments if I wanted to.
Correct. A mortgage can be thought of as a highly-regulated contract between the bank and buyer, subject to well-known policies and laws, whereas in contract housing, all you have is the contract between the seller and buyer. You can indeed put anything you want in that contract, and once the buyer agreed to it, it would be up to them to abide by it (however crazy the provisions), or else prove any breach or instance of illegality.
> Slumlord? I ain't renting shit.
Contract housing is considered rent-to-own. You're like those employers that try to dodge overtime regulations by paying your non-exempt workers a "salary". It's not the label, it's what you're actually doing that matters.
https://hrc.csub.edu/housing-history/buying-on-contract/
https://ippsr.msu.edu/public-policy/michigan-wonk-blog/re-emergence-contract-buying-practice-rooted-mid-20th-century
>If anything, I am adding a human touch to the experience
Your pitch is cute but I'm just letting anyone who's reading know that you're full of shit and that they should never fall for a scheme like this.
There are people who are already doing these kinds of developments. They use a third-party lender. If you want to finance, you need to incorporate as one and subject yourself to the related regulations.

[Anonymous No.59003674]

>>59003618
>A mortgage can be thought of as a highly-regulated contract between the bank and buyer, subject to well-known policies and laws, whereas in contract housing, all you have is the contract between the seller and buyer.
dual-citizen detected. so it is ok for the bank to perform usery (it's highly regulated goy!) But if I do then that is bad. What if I don't want interest and only care to have that passive monthly income over 15 years from a buyer that could otherwise not get a loan from your precious highly regulated bankers. That's not good for the bank, because I'm giving someone that would otherwise have to pay rent, a chance to own property. This means that they are no longer renting from boomer landlord that is over extened and now no longer has that renter paying off his mortgage. This causes him to default now the bank has to forclose on our happy new property owner's former landlord. I've never seen such a pathetic example of a bank/landlord bootlicker. The ironic thing is that you don't realize you are advocating for that which you profess to condemn.

>You're like those employers that try to dodge overtime regulations by paying your non-exempt workers a "salary".
So you're saying that seller financed deals exploit some kind of loophole where a seller and a buyer come together and conduct business if they so choose? fucking communist.

I'm not bothering with your drivel. People like you are brain dead wastes of time. shalom rabbi

[Anonymous No.59003741]

>>59003674
>so it is ok for the bank to perform usery (sic)
But if I do then that is bad.
Yes.
>What if I don't want interest and only care to have that passive monthly income over 15 years from a buyer that could otherwise not get a loan from your precious highly regulated bankers.
Sell them the house for $5 and a rock for $249,995 and be ready to take them to court if they fail to pay on the rock contract.
I'm not saying that the banks don't suck, too. They're ridiculously criminal, the stuff they did during 2008 was heinous, and by all accounts, many of them should have been done did the the pharmas re: opioids, but worse, bankrupt and with execs in jail.
But that doesn't take away from the fact that you still have greater institutional protection under a contract with one versus some rando developer.
If you want to be a lender, incorporate as one and subject yourself to lender regulations. Otherwise you're operating a grift.
>I'm not bothering with your drivel.
I'm responding to you primarily for the sake of other people who might think this is a good idea.

Anyway, the ideal is houses for-cost. Even at best, you're just casting yourself as a less thirsty parasite. There's nothing virtuous in that.

[Anonymous No.59004002]

>>59003741
You sound retarded. The buyer can just demand a contract that stipulates they don't get evicted until X many missed payments, ezpz.

Additionally, the fact it's one lone developer might even make a judge more lenient when it comes to enforcing the contract, much like how pre nups get thrown out in divorce proceedings.

[Anonymous No.59004019]

>>59004002
Read the links for a rundown of what actually tends to happen with contract housing outside of your fantasyland "can just" and "might"s.

[Anonymous No.59004089]

>>58999231
on a related note, I once did some labor work for a general contractor who, for two days out of the week, said he made a full time wage deodorizing cars, presumably for dealerships and maybe rental agencies. He said it was such a nice gig he was honestly considering quitting his general contractor work (where he already was turning down jobs due to volume) to do the car sniffing full time.

I looked a bit into it and besides some niche cases where you might want specific chemicals for specific smells, all you need are a couple ozone generators which are pretty cheap, and you only run em for a few hours max.

[Anonymous No.59004106]

>>59004019
no

[Anonymous No.59004208]

>>59004089
>all you need are a couple ozone generators
Wasn't aware of such a thing. Now I am.

Story doesn't surprise me. My buddy that owns the car lot and told me about this Automotive Interior Repair idea said he cannot keep auto detailers on staff. Apparently, it is a bit of a pain in the ass to detail cars and there is high turnover. Regardless, he is still making money hand over fist in used cars.
Of course it took him 15-20 years to get to this point. He has no problem selling used cars as you are likely aware, used cars are in heavy heavy demand.
I always thought of the idea of being required to get a "dealers license" to register/sell more than 3-4 cars a year is such a racket. It is nice if you get said license though because you can buy cars cheap at the all exclusive car auctions.
They inflate the price so damn much from auction to customer. He does have auctions fees, transport fees, repair and detail fees, and he tacks on his inflated profit and he has no problem with cars flying off the lot.
With things like the cost of a basic brand new ford explorer being $40k MSRP, and more like $55k after the ford dealership rapes the customer, I Can see why people are turning to used cars. Say a couple with kids has a two income household, middle class, no debt other than mortgage payment, I just don't see how this couple would get a loan for $55k car minus down payment. Why would someone go into more debt for such a car when they could buy a 10 year old Honday Odyssey or for $10k. But people still buy the cars. I don't even see how anyone can use all the bloated electronic features. Why the fuck don't they make cars with roll up windows, manual locks, manual transmission. Basic car with wheels, seatbelts, AC/Heat, 4 cylinder. Like the Corollas/Camry's of the 70's-90's. If I were rich I would hesitate to spend such amounts of money on some car with a huge ipad in the middle of the dash.

[Anonymous No.59004522]

This is the first non-shit thread I have seen here in a long time. Please don't fuck it up with tarded posts, thanks.

[Anonymous No.59004855]

>>59004522
Thanks. I put in some effort to keep it going. Hopefully when people go to work tomorrow and browse this site site instead of working, we can get some additional content. I want to hear anecdotal stories about how some dude with a high school education got into some skill and stuck with it for 3 years and now has 2 trucks working for him. I like those stories and they inspire me.
I think a lot of the problem with people is they won't start a biz because they fear failure, as has been the case for me. But I've gotten over it, have invested some cash into training, and overall I stand to loose under $5k if it all goes to shit with the Automotive Interior Repair small business idea. At which point I will take whatever lessons learned and go pick up residential dog shit. Really, I am kind of stuck on the dog shit idea. Is there anyone reading this that has done it? I want to hear about the unforseen challenged beside the putrid stench and the occasional dog attack for a sweet payout lol.
Also the fence staining idea mentioned earlier. Look at Mehmet here doing fence staining with a spray gun: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/VcPDkAU12kw
That shit looks straightforward.
>measure length and height of fence to discover area
>calculate quote
>repair any small issues, small, we're not rebuilding the damn thing
>pressure wash fence and let it dry for a couple of days
>prep the fence for paint and start spraying
>let dry and add second coat
>wash spray equipment and collect payment.
As someone that has never stained a deck or fence this is how I imagine it works.
I'm assuming the price changes when they want both sides of the fence sprayed. I wonder how that works. Basically ever job is just to do one side of the fence unless told they want both, at which point the price doubles. Does it work like that, anyone?

[Anonymous No.59004891]

I read some inspirational quotes recently regarding getting off one's ass and getting the ball rolling with a small biz.

"Do for 3-6 years what most people refuse to do, and for the rest of your life you can do things people are not able to do".

"Fear not. You will not go insane. Yes, this is going to be work. Yes, you do need to learn how to do it. There are no shortcuts in life. You either dedicate yourself to what needs to be done and learn it, or you don’t. It’s your choice."

"In almost every business venture (or almost any type of project really), things tend to start off swimmingly. There is a rise in productivity and even a couple of small wins may occur. Then comes the dip. It’s inevitable, nearly guaranteed. You’re riding high on your initial small wins, putting in the same amount of effort, chugging along at full speed. But nothing happens. “Hmm, that’s strange,” you say to yourself. “I had a few small wins there.” So you buckle down and push harder, putting in even more effort. Still, nothing. Welcome to the dip. This is the true test of grit. It is at this point that winners break away from losers. You are now faced with a choice: quit or press on."

[Anonymous No.59005259]

annas-archive dot org/

I questioning sharing such resources with the cesspool that is /biz/ but since you have graced this thread, cheers.

[Anonymous No.59005273]

An old work buddy of mine and I used to talk about ways to make cash while wage slaving. The topic of the Americans with Disabilities Act came up. He knew of some guy that would go to all sorts of businesses - gyms, restaurants, offices, retail stores, and look for ADA violations. Like for example if there was a wheelchair ramp. If not, he would sue the business and make like $10k when they would settle. He wasn't disabled. Also the wheelchair ramp had to have specific dimensions and criteria so he would still go after people for the smallest of offenses against that Bureaucratic law. Recently I heard website have to be in compliance. Like if you start your business and launch a site, you must have the site to have certain features that make it accessible to everyone, disabled included. If not you can get sued. Highly unethical but that guy was making money. He was a lawyer so I'm sure he slept good at night. I'm not advocating for that, just making small talk. At least you know now some law punk can stick it to you when you are starting out with a shitty website.

[Anonymous No.59005316]

Here is another idea: Brick and mortar mailbox installation. Low entry ceiling. Cheap to start. Initially go door to door and do sales pitch. Best thing about this is you can see who has a shitty mailbox and might need an upgrade. Just need to come up with money for supplies for the first sale, then roll profits into new sale. Target customer would be on the wealthier side of town with a shitty mailbox. They know they have a shitty mailbox and likely think about it often, like daily. There you are to provide the solution. I bet a minivan can contain all the bricks, mortar, and other tools and supplies needed for 1 job. Do one job, then go back to headquarters to load up for another job. Canvas neighborhoods making sales for a week while scheduling all the installs for the next week. You won't be falling off any roofs. Low danger threshold, unless you live in springfield ohio and some haitian runs you over. So, your work area would always be at the curb so there is that. I bet you could knock out 1 or 2 of these a day and charge $1000 for them. Rich people like their yards, mailboxes, etc and are willing to drop a grand on such trivial things. Upsell them to install retaining walls or brick fence. See book: Guide To Successful Brickwork; Fourth Edition; The Brick Development Association for technical know how. Just watch a shit ton of youtube videos and read some masonry books. Do a couple practice mailboxes for family and friends.
Speaking of door to door, I am now reading "WHO SAYS
YOU CAN’T SELL ICE
TO ESKIMOS?
A Door-to-Door Salesman Reveals
the Timeless Secrets of Selling
Anybody, Anything
by
James W. Murphy"

I'm averse to sales but I think it gets better with some reading and practice. Imagine going out 5 times a week to install 1 or 2 mailboxes a day they call you from word of mouth. Fuck google.

[Anonymous No.59005466]

>>59002704
Fellow m farmer here.

Keep your shit to yourself. Stop talking about it you fucking idiot. I will find you.

[Anonymous No.59005679]

Here is another invention idea:

See picrel. It's LED lights on a kind of strip that you can stick to a desk or wall. Now, imagine the strip is 4 inches high and 3 feet long. And equally distanced within that 3 feet would be an LED shape. Pentagon, then circle, then star, then square, etc. Until you get 12 shapes. Each shape has a specific different color. This thing can be programmed via mobile device app with the wake up time of your toddler/baby and also the time you put the kid to bed. Now when the sleep time begins, the first shape will be illuminated. Then each succeeding shape will illuminate individually, for an equal amount of time until the final shape is illuminated with the final "shape" of time before it is wake up time.

This simple device could be attached to the wall overlooking the kids crib.

The purpose of this device is so that the child can know when it is getting closer for mom to come get the child up. young children like this wake up all the time and night and have no idea of time or when someone will come. I think that this LED strip will give the child a sense of passing time. The child will eventually recognize patterns to allow them to realize that there is still more sleep to go until mom comes. If the kid wakes up and the orange diamond is illuminated, the kind knows that shape is in the middle and still quite a ways from the shape at the right end which means mommy is coming to get me. This may comfort the child and help the child understand that they are not alone, it is only sleep time, and mommy will be coming by eventually. The device also serves as a night light. Also as a bonus the child may begin to comprehend the illusion of the passage of time as a good indicator of it's own mortality, causing the child to hit the ground running when it grows up and make something of itself and not be some commie freeloader.

[Anonymous No.59005707]

>>59005679
I'm calling it the The Shape- Passing Strip
I came to this idea recently when my own child would wake at night and cry for attention. I also thought how I wouldn't like it if I didn't know the time if I woke in the dark night.

[Anonymous No.59007241]

Well I guess this thread has run it's course. It has been 16 hours since anyone has replied besides me. How do threads go away? Do mods terminate them at their whim? Or does it go away after no activity for a certain amount of time? Or is there a hard ceiling of replies allowed? Just curious.

[Anonymous No.59007344]

>>59007241
look at the bottom of the page, there's numbers 1 to 10 indicating the page number. if the thread gets to the end of page 10 anda new thread is created, the other thread is archived. this happens if there's no one responding to it or the bump limit has been reached, where a new reply won't bump the thread to the top of the page anymore. it's somewhere around 300 posts, I believe

[Anonymous No.59007346]

>>59005316
Look into "tuck pointing"

A guy can go door to door repairing people's bricks

[Anonymous No.59007391]

>>59007344
So, when you replied just now, did that send this thread to #1 for that moment. Thanks for the information.

>>59007346
This is is a wonderful idea. I would not have thought of this. Just watched a couple of videos on it and it seems simple enough with some practice. I bet one can speak with realtors to get their home looking good for sale.
Again, that is the tough part, hustling via door to door or cold calls to the point where people start contacting you through word of mouth.
Thanks again for the small business idea.

[Anonymous No.59007543]

>>58999333
checked

[Anonymous No.59007580]

A non-jeetcoin thread with more than 2 replies? Damn, the anti-jeet measures really worked

[Anonymous No.59007616]

>>59005316
>>59007346
>>59007391
More thought on this, one you could do Tuck Point (brick and mortar repair) and brick and mortar mailbox construction together. If they don't need one service maybe they need the other.
I was driving to the store earlier and looking at all the houses that have brick or even brick facades. There are a lot. Some of them are going to need repair at any given time, and here is the gem in this one-especially in cold winter climates-the problem is only going to worse. I think that is a major selling point - pay to fix it now, or pay more to fix it later. That means that someone with brick damage is going to need what you have to offer, 100%. And again, some of this intel can be garnered from the publix street in front of the target home.

>>59007580
Not bad huh? Thanks.

[Anonymous No.59007629]

>>58999200
I started a softwashing/pressure washing business with my dad about a month ago. I'm 28 and dad is in his late 50s, so anybody can do this. We started doing free jobs for friends and family to get the workflow down and we now have a decent handful of paid clients under the belt. We're on our way to turn a profit after a month, total investment was roughly $2k in equipment but you could definitely do with less. Is it oversaturated? Yes. Is there still money to be made? Absolutely. The bigger guys in the game are likely focused more on large commercial contracts: gas stations, schools, shopping mall parking lots, places like that. The residential sector is still very competitive.

[Anonymous No.59007683]

>>59007629
Can you tell us the specifications on your pressure washer?

Do you also employ a surface cleaner, or just the pressure gun?

After you got the workflow down, how did you aquire your first customers? Door-to-door, online targeted local adverts?

Do you pressure wash the house exterior? I hear some don't. I wouldn't mind avoid house facades altogether. What kind of jobs have you found to be the more desirable?

How hard is the work? Do your arms or hands hurt from having to constantly control a pressurized handheld device?

Thanks for contributing.

[Anonymous No.59007729]

>>59007629
Also, on this topic, what do you think about if someone goes into just pressure washing
>driveways
>brick/stone/cement walls
>back patio
>cement structure/benches
>decks
>fences
>sidewalks
>outdoor furniture
>trash/recycle bins
>staircases
>no home sidings unless brick or stone
>no work on the roof

The purpose of not doing the house or roof is to avoid heights and avoid accidentally damaging the home.

Would someone be seriously handicapping their business prospects if all they did was that list?
Thanks again bro.

[Anonymous No.59007768]

>>58999258
I have this book. It's okay but it strawmans the investment strategy by only assuming a 10% savings rate. If you save 20-30% of your income then it is a much more viable strategy.

[Anonymous No.59007791]

>>59001033
There's a difference between
>it's over, buy freeze dried food and wait for housing to go to 0
and
>small business isn't as viable as it used to be
If you can't tell the difference then that is probably why you haven't made it.

[Anonymous No.59007805]

>>59007683
>Can you tell us the specifications on your pressure washer?
It's literally just a Predator unit from HF. They were on sale so the unit itself was just ~$600. The important factor is GPM, not PSI. You want to clean the house, not blast the siding off of it. This means you're using chemicals; a higher GPM lets you put more solution down quicker, meaning jobs are faster. We're looking at other units but I do recommend this one for starting out.
>how did you aquire your first customers?
Word of mouth for the first paid clients. We invested in an A-Frame sign with our contact info on it, we stick that at the end of the driveway, and we do a 5-around. See picrel, it's easier to explain that way. We stick doorhangers on each of those houses.
>Do you pressure wash the house exterior?
Yeah, house siding and driveways come out the cleanest, so they make the best marketing photos.
>What kind of jobs have you found to be the more desirable?
Concrete driveways. Pop some AirPods in and listen to some music or an audiobook, and just push the surface cleaner around. Makes the job go by quick, and driveways always come out nice if done properly.
>How hard is the work?
Not at all kek. I'm biased on this I guess. I'm spending time with my dad so I'm having fun.

[Anonymous No.59007823]

>>59007729
Start with a few services and expand. Just do driveways or siding first, figure out what you hate about doing those, and get better equipment to make those shitty things easier. From there, you can explore more services. Power washing is a seasonal business so plan accordingly. Also, this business is like 95% marketing, 5% actual work. If you have the right equipment, you'll be able to do jobs insanely fast. When we were figuring out work flow, we had a shitty 2.4 GPM unit, and jobs took all day. With the 4.2 GPM unit, those job times are cut in half. That frees up a ton of time to do other jobs or explore other service avenues.
>Would someone be seriously handicapping their business prospects if all they did was that list?
Not at all. You can make money only doing trash cans if you really wanted to. We're opening negotiations with an HOA to do just that.

[Anonymous No.59007882]

>>59000249
You would need to undercut prices of google, amazon AWS... I don't know how feasible that is if you don't have the cost savings of pure scale.

[Anonymous No.59008156]

>>59007805
>>59007823
Thanks. So, sounds like you feel comfortable doing house siding. Any tips or mental rundown sheet you run through your head when the customer wants the house exterior cleaned. Like, if the house in painted and there is extra green mold in places, aren't you going to blast off the paint along with the filth?

Will a Honda Odyssey minivan have enough cargo space to move around the necessary equipment in the beginning?

What chemical do you use to clean driveways with your surface cleaner?

Have you considered adding any additional serves to upsell, like cleaning gutters, windows?

Where do you see your business in 6 months? 12 months?

I appreciate all of the other advice.

[Anonymous No.59008172]

>>58999200
thinking of opening a place where you go, say after a busy work week, and you get massages.
And for an extra, you can get something more ;)
I think it will do well with blue collar workers

[Anonymous No.59008339]

>>59008172
Oldest trade in the book huh. You'd have to be in Nevada to do that legally in the US.
I wonder, could a thot put an illustrated advertisment in the local paper or gas station advertiser for making exotic phtography stills with clients interested in making nudie pics and calling it art? So her business model would be that she makes art, in this case a photographs, with her. As both would be consenting adults, you can photography anything you want to do together, including coitus. Then she has a list of things and prices. Photographs of fellatio $150. Photographs of missionary coitus: $350. "All photography sessions are limited to 1 hour and by appointment". She could even charge extra if they wanted to keep the pictures.
Couldn't some chick run a legal bordello out of her home under such a business model?
It's amazing, any teenager has total access to the most depraved pornography at their fingertips, and a blue collar hard working man can't contract the services of such enterprising ladies. Some women don't mind being prostitues. I hear the have respectable ones all over Europe. Isn't it legal in Australia.
Anyway, I'm not advocating for prostitution.
Oh that is alway something that I thought of when you see John's getting entrapped by undercover cop hooker on COPS. Why doesn't the dude tell her that he is looking for a model for his photography hobby. He would offer to pay her $XX for a session of taking artistic pictures of the subject in the nude. I think this would immediately be a no from any undercover hooker cop. If it is a real hooker she'd probably say it'll be extra.

[Anonymous No.59008352]

>>58999200
>>58999210
>>58999213
a lot of these sound boomer, pre 2010s small business.
>>59008339
I wasn't being serious about it, but now your post made me think

[Anonymous No.59008365]

>>59008156
>mental rundown sheet you run through your head
Always take before pictures. Photos of not just the grime but any pre-existing damage to the siding, roof, chimneys, etc. Last thing you want is for some stupid bitch filing an insurance claim against your company over damage that was already there. Take the time to CYA
>aren't you going to blast off the paint along with the filth
Nope. Like I said, pressure isn't the important factor it's GPM. Keep a safe distance and use a wide angle tip, you should be okay.
>Will a Honda Odyssey minivan have enough cargo space to move around the necessary equipment
Absolutely.
>What chemical do you use
The main chemical used for siding is sodium hypochlorite, tldr it's diluted bleach. 2% max is what we dilute to. That eats your organics, typical grime, mold, stuff like that.
>Have you considered adding any additional serves to upsell, like cleaning gutters, windows?
We offer gutter cleaning as one of our big 3 services, yeah. The upsells are great. Always bring extra supplies for those. We're experimenting with trash can cleanup but that's a super easy upsell since it's so cheap and it's insanely fast.
>Where do you see your business in 6 months? 12 months?
Well I don't know if we have a 6 month target but by the end of 2025 we want to have 120 houses done. At our rates that's roughly half a million in revenue. 5 years out, if the business is still good we want to get a small crew on board, while we run the managerial stuff.

[Anonymous No.59008386]

>>59000587

Can you elaborate more or point me to somewhere with more info?

[Anonymous No.59008392]

>>59008365
>That eats your organics, typical grime, mold, stuff like that.
In regards to pressure washing (not soft washing roof) do you have to take any precautions regarding their plants or greenery getting killed by your chemicals?
What is you average charge for 4 sides of a 3bdr house, for a driveway?
>but by the end of 2025 we want to have 120 houses done
Godspeed. You can do it bro. That is very good you work with your father to have time together. I used to work with my father daily at his restaurant and we got to know one another quite well. I miss those days.

[Anonymous No.59008414]

>>59008352
>a lot of these sound boomer, pre 2010s small business
I hear you brother but it's there to give people ideas. And people have been sharing their own ideas so, at least it is not a thread about another shitcoin.
I was thinking as I was driving earlier, "Look at all these houses that may need some kind of service." And I wondered how not everyone is running their own business enriching themselves. I also thought that the entry level barriers that hold people back from starting a small business, or what berries they think are holding them back, is a kind of self-emposed gatekeeping that makes success so much sweeter for those that take the risk. I know not everyone is meant to be self employed. As I am getting my first small venture together, I wonder about the last 15 years I spend in IT sitting at a desk, getting fat, taking shit from female management (so powerful, so motivating). At least I am coming to this realization now and not at 55. Just turned 40.
If I had $0 capital right now, and wanted to be self employed, I'd get a job working for someone that does what I would want to get into. This way you can eat, and also learn, and possibly save some cash for a startup. I'd advise something that requires little or no capital, or better yet, little to no training. I think next I'll try to concentrate on little to no money and training type startups. Maybe give some anons some ideas.

[Anonymous No.59008445]

>>59008392
>any precautions regarding their plants
Oh for sure. You have to make sure that shit doesn't stay on. After you get chemicals on the house, that can only stay on for 8 minutes MAX. So you have to move quick. When we're rinsing the house off, we take a lot of extra precaution making sure we wash the plants thoroughly so that there's zero solution on the leaves and surrounding soil.

[Anonymous No.59008723]

>>58999200
Bump

[Anonymous No.59008758]

Does anyone gamble professionally or know anyone who does? Yeah I know all the risks etc. I'm looking at this picrel book. I had a family member that was always at the horses and you'd see the same people there daily. I guess they made a few bucks.

[Anonymous No.59008830]

>>58999200
id like to make a site for people go gamble on video feeds of bugs fighting each other. whats a good source for finding a coder fag who can do that for me?

[Anonymous No.59008880]

>>59008830
find a developer on fivrr or upwork. hire any kind of technical person you want in and IT field. I've used people in Eastern Europe before and they were cool. Knew english, didn't bullshit. USD goes far in certain places, so they take jobs for less money. This way you don't have to resort to using someone in India or Philippines. You can do that though.

[Anonymous No.59009089]

I’ve got an idea.
>go to county clerk Of courts website
>search small claims court final judgement records
>small claims court is all claims $5k and under
>contact every losing defendant
>many people sued by banks, claim at 10% interest
>say you give them money to pay suit and ask what they have to trade
>get something Pennie’s on the dollar
>resell for profit

I see now a record of a chick lost to a local credit union for $3,500. Maybe she has a car worth $7000? Or something else. People sell shit for cheap all the time.

[Anonymous No.59010214]

>>59008830
Learn yourself. Pay poo prices get poo results.

[Anonymous No.59010728]

Really nice thread filled with lots of information.

Anyone here have any experience with microgreens?

[Anonymous No.59011711]

>>59010728
Thanks bro.
Go build yourself a Himawari Sunlighting green house and start growing enough microgreens to flood the local market.

>Dr. Mori raised plants under special light that filtered out IR and UV radiation. His unique process of sunlight collection via a fresnel ray assembly and fiberoptic transmission, called “Himawari Sunlighting,” is now marketed worldwide.

https://www.genesispark.com/exhibits/early-earth/experiments/

[Anonymous No.59012008]

>>58999231
Get yourself a walking foot sewing machine. Not only you can offer it for used car dealers, down the line you can offer it to personal owners. More money

[Anonymous No.59012661]

>>59007346
I looked into it. Pretty neat. My own house could use this so I'll be my test dummy.

[Anonymous No.59012886]

I want to open up a salvage shop.
Buy cars at auction and strip them. Put the parts online or local pickup (no Facebook market place. That place is a containment site for poor scam artists and flakes)

[Anonymous No.59012907]

What is a business that I could do during the night? like of course there is all the stuff online, writing books, and all that, but what about IRL work that typically takes place at night or is expected to be done outside of normal hours?

[Anonymous No.59012975]

>59012661
Nice. From what I've seen on youtube it looks like easy work. Just do a good job and people will find out about you. Also upsell them stone mailboxes. Check out this link. They make pre-cut stones that you put together with glue. You just dig a hole, backfill it for asolid foundation, then place rectangular-prism shaped stones in a square fashion and glue them together. Use a diamond blade saw to cut custom pieces and you just made an extra grand. Good luck.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMhUduAWqxs

>59012886
That sounds like a great idea, especially if you can take cars apart and known how to clean parts and list them properly. Just start buying disabled vehicles from craigslist/facebook marketplace. Advertise "cash for clunkers" and buy shitty cars that have high value parts. If you want to expand you might need to rent out a storage unit for your inventory. Maybe pay for some asset management software for inventory.

[Anonymous No.59012990]

>>59005259
massive thanks, what a wonderful thing to have found

[Anonymous No.59013028]

>>59012907
do custom "deep cleans" for restaurant kitchens. kitchen employees hate cleaning shit properly. Offer to come in once a month to clean the vent hood (big one), and floors, degrease things, clean under cooking equipment, make the place less likely to become roach infested.

nighttime interior painting. paint empty rental units, houses, etc. Who said you had to paint during the day.

mobile car detailing. have someone take you to the customer's car. you take it to your "shop". clean it during the night. return it and have a taxi take you home. hardest part would be someone dropping you off/picking you up. But you might be able to charge serious money to people that want to pay for the convenience of going to sleep with a dirty car, and waking up to find it sparkling clean, could make it worthwhile for taxi/uber costs.

nightime residential deep cleaning. clean empty houses at night. talk to realtors.

I'm telling yah, I think the night time restaurant deep clean is a good idea. Charge $500 a month for 1 deep clean. Get 20 measly restaurants to sign a 1 year contract after you give them a discounted cleaning so they see what you can do (at first so as to get clients). (20 clients X $500 monthly charge) X 12 months = $120,000 revenue a year. 20 measly accounts. This is you just cleaning 1 restaurant every night, alone, for 5 days a week. 8 hours (likely less after the first deep clean) and done. Likely 5% over head for cleaning supplies, 95% profit), or $475 in "clean" money daily. Eventually have a helper and knock out 2 restaurants a night. Or don't, and make less money but have more time off. You'd be the king of your destiny. You may find some classy restaurants that wouldn't think twice for such a service at that price. And, since you'll be cleaning them personally you'll get them at a baseline where it'll be mostly "maintenance clean" after the initial deep clean. Man I am inspiring myself.

[Anonymous No.59013034]

>>59012990
you got it brother. help other people in life also.

[Anonymous No.59013062]

>>59012661
>>59012886
Sorry didn't reply correctly. See reply here: >>59012975

[Anonymous No.59013107]

47 sentences that'll make you more money than a 4 year business degree:

People buy with emotion, then justify with logic.

For every $1 you spend on email marketing, you can expect an average return of $36 (if you know what you’re doing).

Sell the transformation, not the product.

Tell prospects your price, then, shut the fuck up.

It’s easier to sell an offer that solves a pain than one fulfilling a desire.

Whatever business you’re in, study psychology, cognitive bias, and body language.

If your offer has a solid guarantee, it'll result in more sales than refunds.

Memes are one of the most powerful forms of marketing.

Copywriting is 80% research, 20% writing.

Your service/product should meet demand, not try to create it.

People don’t care about your offer, only what your offer can do for them.

Using pictures for written testimonials will make them more believable.

You don’t need a $2000 MacBook Pro, $967 logo, or a $87,000 degree to start a business.

You become wealthy by becoming valuable, then becoming scarce.

Quantify the timeframe of your offer.

The market isn’t “saturated”, your offer just sucks.

You can be terrible at sales calls if you have a great offer.

There’s no such thing as too high of price, only too little value.

Specific words and numbers are more believable than broad ones.

A happy customer is the most powerful form of marketing.

Sales is about listening.

Marketing is about empathy.

Use the words “you” and “your” in your copy to make it more engaging.

Use headlines to steal attention and hooks to keep it.

An average product with great marketing will outsell a great product with bad marketing.

When stating your price on a sales call, say “It’s a one-time investment of __,” not “The price is __.”

[Anonymous No.59013113]

>>59013107
>Tomorrow is not guaranteed. Nuke war could happen and then we'd all feel pretty stupid about all the things that kept us from starting....a small business!

Charge “high” prices so you can deliver more value for your clients.

Selling a good product in a bad market is a losing battle.

Handle objections in your FAQ section of your landing page to increase conversions.

Your sales pitch shouldn’t be over 2 minutes.

Never sacrifice your reputation for money.

To grow at the start, say “yes” to many opportunities, but to continue growing, learn to say “no.”

Social proof + scarcity + urgency + risk free guarantees + bonuses = irresistible offer.

Use Power Thesaurus to replace boring words with strong ones to increase conversions.

The less you care about making sales, the more you make.

It’s okay to fire clients that are a pain in the ass.

If you don’t think you can help a prospect, be honest.

There will always be a market for health, wealth, and relationships.

Compete on value, not price.

A 5th grader should be able to understand your writing.

If what you sell is confusing, nobody will buy.

Use the same words and phrases as your target market to increase conversions.

Study talented fiction writers so you know how to write engaging stories.

Your 0 to hero story is one of your most powerful marketing assets.

Persuasive writing sounds conversational, not academic.

People want to see pictures of your product or service in use.

If you wouldn’t work with someone for a year, don’t work with them for a day.

Give value with 0 expectations and you’ll get 10x returns in the long run.

Thanks for reading.

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[Anonymous No.59013118]

>>59013028
Thanks for your reply, I actually cleaned offices for over 10 years, and maintenance/setup/cleaning at a church/school for 3 or so years, all mostly at night. But during covid I snapped when I had a particularly bad night and gave up cleaning. ()

Now I give art and gamedev lessons. but you can imagine its not super stable income as commissions and students fluctuate alot. And all my gamedev projects are perpetually stuck in limbo. lol

Of the things you suggested I think I might consider the cleaning of the vent hood and the internal car cleaning. so thanks.

[Anonymous No.59013159]

>>59013118
>>59013028
>I had a particularly bad night and gave up cleaning
>I might consider the cleaning of the vent hood

Which one is it? If you're going to clean one of the filthiest parts of the restaurant (vent hood), might as well give the client the full package. Here, think about it this way, and also this would be a good sales pitch to prospective restaurant clients.

They will pay you $500 X 12 months = $6,000.
The mean operational week for a restaurant is 6 days a week.

6 active kitchen day X 52 weeks = 312 day that the kitchen is in use.

$6,000 / 312 days = $19.23

You're basically charging them under $20 every day they use that kitchen, to give it a deep clean once a month. That is how you pitch the sale.

"We offer monthly scheduled after-hours deep kitchen deep clean for $500 a month for a 12 month contract."

You get the keys to have access after-hours, and clean everything. Like I said, after the initial deep clean it will likely be all maintenance cleaning. Just do this for a couple of years and you'll have 3 night crews doing it for you as you collect bank.

All you'll be cleaning is kitchen surfaces, food cooking equipment, floors. Restaurants kitchens are nasty, you'll have enough to do with that, as least for the 1st deep clean. Upsell them:
>cleaning their refrigerators
>flush/clean beer/soda lines
>dining area window cleaning
>deep clean dining area
>pressure wash parking lot/building facade
>monthly re-occurring subscription to wash towels/aprons/table cloths
>deep clean customer bathrooms

Maybe slip on some water that your foot "magically" finds on your way out the door after talking to the manager and he says he's not interested.

[Anonymous No.59013186]

>>59013159
>"We offer monthly scheduled after-hours deep kitchen deep clean for $500 a month for a 12 month contract."

That was incorrect. Estimate how many days a particular restaurant is open a year, and divide $6000 by that number. Here is a better sales pitch example:

>"We come once every 30 days to do a 7-point deep clean after-hours. You'll come in to a sparkling clean kitchen for less than $20 for every day that you operate this kitchen."

Let the employees clean the obvious daily filth that needs cleaning, and you do the deep/maintenance cleaning. You'll be addicted to money before you know it.

It might not be for you but it might be for some other anon lurking this thread.

[Anonymous No.59013241]

>>59013107
>People buy with emotion, then justify with logic.
This one has been big for me lately. No matter what you're selling, your customer is buying a feeling. I've always been pretty frugal and I'd scratch my head at guys who paid $300 for a leather belt when you can get one of the same quality for $50. It has been a long road to internalize this truth - they are not buying a $300 belt, they are buying the feeling of being the guy who buys a $300 belt.

One guy buys a Land Rover even though its reliability and maintenance ratings are atrocious, because he wants to feel like he's part of that club.

Another guy buys a Toyota Corolla, because he wants to feel like a smart guy who does his homework and gets the best bang for his buck.

>but I sell washing machine parts
They are paying for a bad feeling to go away (stress of machine not working and laundry piling up). Focus on your shipping speed so they know they'll get the part as fast as possible.

[Anonymous No.59014848]

My ideas based on problems boomers around my area face:
removing weeds between paving stones/sealing the space between them or whatever, tree stump removal/grinding, pressure washing driveways, patios. Feel free to comment on those

[Anonymous No.59015052]

>>59014848
>removing weeds between paving stones/sealing
https://www.marthastewart.com/8114733/diy-vinegar-weed-killer-guide

Use a vinegar, salt, dish soap solution in a hand carried pump sprayer. Go to house, spray weeds. There is already lots of talk about pressure washing in previous comments. I'd think pressure washing would be your primary, and weeds would be your upsell. Or stump grinding primary. Stump grinding machine is expensive I hear and needs a trailer. Likely need a small truck/minivan with a tow package for towing a small trailer.

[Anonymous No.59015142]

I will say something about hiring people - expect hourly employees to do the bare minimum. There is a sweet spot with pay as well. Pay too little, and your turnover will be high. Pay too much, and they will (paradoxically) get entitled.

If someone is going above and beyond, it won't be long before they figure out they can work just as hard for themselves and start competing with you.

t. been in and out of construction since 2009 and seen a lot of it happen

[Anonymous No.59015527]

a guy in my area has mechanic shop just in his home garage he gets clients daily

[Anonymous No.59015594]

I'm thinking about starting a residential flooring business I know I can just cold call general contractors and try going door to door to houses for customers but I'm wondering what else I could do incase those don't work

[Anonymous No.59015932]

>>59015594
Unless there is a major economic upheaval or nuclear war (both of which are distinct possibilities lately) at which point we have other problems, there will be people needing flooring. Either new builds or re-flooring. The trick is how to get customers. That was usually the most daughting part of it, "How am I going to get customers?"
Door-to-door. You'll get one, then two, then word of mouth catches up. Just do good work, be polite as fuck, and always go what you say you're going to do. And always answer the phone or call back right away.
Now then, you're asking what you can upsell when you do floors or perhaps what else you can do since you're already going to be at a potential customer's door. . . . .Here are some AI generated ideas:
Baseboard Installation or Repair
Crown Molding Installation
Carpet Cleaning
Tile Grout Cleaning and Sealing
Vinyl Flooring Installation
Laminate Flooring Installation
Flooring Removal and Disposal
Underlayment Installation
Sanding and Refinishing Hardwood Floors
Staircase Repair or Refinishing
Skirting Board Installation
Decking Installation or Repair
Home Insulation Services
Rug Installation or Custom Sizing
Flooring Consultation and Design Services
Wall Repair and Painting
Water Damage Repair
Home Organization Services (closets, storage areas)
Epoxy Coating for Garage Floors
Home Maintenance Services (small repairs, handyman tasks)

[Anonymous No.59015965]

>>59015594
>but I'm wondering what else I could do incase those don't work

This thread has a ton of ideas. I'd advise
>commercial kitchen deep cleaning
>dog shit removal
>fence and deck staining
>brick tuck point repair
>car detailing at used auto dealers
>raised garden bed installation
>solar panel cleaning
>gutter cleaning

All of these small businesses have been discussed in this thread. You can start most of these with less than $500.
I'm taking a class in Biloxi next month for 5 days to train on automotive interior repair and then work out of my minivan doing mobile repairs at dealerships. There are about 50 used car dealers in a 15 mile radius where I am and no one does mobile interior repair. If I wasn't going to do this, I would do one of the ones I mentioned in green text.

[Anonymous No.59016104]

>>59015142
Yep. 1 self-employed dude that does manual labor can and do so much within 24hrs. This limits income. Only way to make more is hiring help. So, work alone and live with a revenue curling. Or hire people and manage them while you work less to be able to manage them. Pros and cons to both but lots of people think money can solve a lot of problems to they go the expansion route, which is understandable, especially if you can employee good people, friends, or family.

[Anonymous No.59016182]

BUMP this thread is great.

Also join us in the /entg/ - Entrepreneurship Discord. We have a meeting this Sunday.

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[Anonymous No.59016299]

>>59016182
thanks man. I'm going to try to make it a usual thing, as long as I have spare time. I am still in the research phase as I await my training class. Care to share any insight or small business startup ideas? Feel free to. Hope people get some ideas and break free from wage slavery or similar fates.

You know, I'm no communist but, the fact that $1 has such little purchasing power is fucking criminal. What was it, a man could work manual labor back in the 50's-70's and be able to support his family and pay off a home within 5 years or something. Wage slavery is not an option. It takes starting a business and bringing in low six figures just to barely keep up with our grandparent's buying power when they were young.
On the other hand you may need to hire wagies to expand your business, so there's that. How I bypass the cognitive dissonance there is I tell myself that, if they want to escape wage slavery, they can start a business.
I really don't see any other way. Bank robbery or winning the lottery perhaps. Or get a skilled wagie job and eat beans and rice and spend no money outside of what you physically absolutely need to survive. Hitchhike to work. Borrow toilet paper from work. Wash clothes in harvested rainwater and baking soda, hang dry. Use homeless food banks for goyslop. Tech workers do that in San Fagcisco I hear. Live in RV's at the office parking lot. Get paid a San Fagcisco salary. Step in human excrement and get accosted multiple times while walking to the super market. Could be done.
>>59015527
I like this idea. Good for him if he has the skills. How nice to work on cars at home and get paid.

On a side not, if I ever get rich I am going to get an RV like picrel. Just drive all around North America. I'd probably custom order one that is white and looks like a work van. They call them stealth RV's. This way you can park on the street and not be as conspicuous.

[Anonymous No.59016683]

>>59004089
>a general contractor who, for two days out of the week, said he made a full time wage deodorizing cars
Hey bro are you still around? Can you get some more info from this guy? Do you know what the process was and how much he charged per car?

[Anonymous No.59016772]

Don’t have the time to meaningfully contribute to this thread but I want to add I drive dump trucks for an asphalt company and I had no idea asphalt guys made the type of money they do. Lot of hustles within trucking in general too, expediting in cargo vans, box trucks, load brokering, etc. will check this thread in the morning

[Anonymous No.59016782]

>>59016772
Hey can you give me some ideas for what I can do with a 16 food box truck with a walk on ramp in the back? See picrel that is mine. I bought it to convert it into a food truck and that didn't pan out. I'm trying to sell it but also wondering if I can do something with it, besides moving residential homes.
Can you tell us how much the dump truck guys make? How much does it cost to keep the truck in order? How much it costs to lease or buy it? How much they are making a year?

[Anonymous No.59016792]

>>59016782
junk removal is a big industry, I see signs all over my town. they basically charge the same rates as movers, but you'll only be moving a handful of things and it'll take much less time

you'll need to have somewhere to bring it though, I'd research how it works in your area first

[Anonymous No.59016796]

>>59016792
The moderately sized city I live in in north florida has bulk trash pickup once every other week.
You can out old couches, appliances, cut up trees and brush. Mostly anything and they haul it away. So, I don't see anyone needing a reason for junk removal. Unless it is something like deconstructing a dilapidated shed and hauling it away. Thoughts?

[Anonymous No.59016806]

>>59016796
I would look up neighboring counties to see if there would be demand for it there.

immediate long-distance delivery is another industry that always seems to have demand. i don't remember the website, but there are "hotshot delivery bid" websites with many different offers, try googling it. people will say "I need X item taken to atlanta by Y date". I don't know how well your truck will do with long distances though, the miles add up quickly. I'd stick to something local.

[Anonymous No.59017231]

I used to work as a jannie in an office building and it made me consider starting my own cleaning business. I noticed that I basically did all of the work, whereas my employer only provided the supplies (relatively cheap in the grand scheme of things) while checking in once a month to make sure things were running smoothly, so I don't see why I couldn't cut out the middle man and take all the money. The biggest hurdle here is securing a cleaning contract in the first place with a commercial property, especially as an upstart. That's why I've been thinking about starting with residential cleaning first as a step up, but where I live type of work is associated with middle-aged Eastern European women, and I think people would be wary of hiring a dude in his 20's like me.
Competition is also decently high, cleaning companies are all over the place here plus the aforementioned slavs working under the table.
I've been thinking about just printing up a bunch of flyers and delivering them around (especially in areas I know a lot of old people live) just to see if there's a market and test the waters.

[Anonymous No.59017789]

>>59016782
I’m not TOO educated on this matter, but one time when I was OTR trucker I was getting unloaded behind a plaza with a grocery store. Saw a fella in a sprinter van filled with boxes of utz pretzels or something, I asked him what his hustle was and he explained that a lot of snack companies (utz, little Debbie, tasty cakes, wise, etc) use independent contractors to deliver their goods to stores. That’s all I really remember, picrel is the note I took at the time, but judging from the size of your truck it’d probably be most suited for that as opposed to moving pallets long distances. You can also look into state contracts for filling up vending machines at highway rest areas.

TLDR I always saw those types of trucks moving foodstuffs, hang out at your local chains/plazas from 3-11AM and find guys doing that

[Anonymous No.59018441]

>>58999342
they let the poop fester for the whole week? why would trash service pick up dog poop

[Anonymous No.59018614]

>>59001893
why not just mount it to your head

[Anonymous No.59018707]

>>58999564
I’m getting the ball rolling guys. Made some community posts online to gauge interest and got some bites. Just registered as a business in my state. One of my next moves is to advertise in the local papers. Boomers are a prime customer and that’s probably the best way to reach them.

[Anonymous No.59018956]

>>59005679
>>59005707
ever heard of a clock

[Anonymous No.59018991]

>>58999726
I've dealt with babies and dogs with digestive problems. I'm not afraid of poo.

[Anonymous No.59019066]

>>59005273
I would have no problem with a cartel skinning that fellow alive, but you do you.

[Anonymous No.59019082]

>>59005466
>>59008339
It would depend on how much you bothered your neighbors.

[Anonymous No.59019100]

>>59001741
>the perfect business has the following attributes:
>>No physical inventory
does it mean anything to do with manufacturing is bad biz

[Anonymous No.59019107]

Give me a fucking business idea that is suitable for someone who already has a full-time job, kids to take care of (so almost no time on his hands), but about $3 million of free capital to deploy. But the catch is it has to make more than 8-12% per year, or I'd just put it in the fucking stock market.

>Pro-tip: You can't. But I would genuinely appreciate if you try.

[Anonymous No.59019181]

>>59016683
Most of it is just an ozone generator. The trick is knowing how long to run it so it doesn't degrade the interior.

[Anonymous No.59020149]

>>59018707
This journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. For the rest of time will no one ever again get rich picking up dog shit? Of course not someone will get rich doing that. Let that be you.

[Anonymous No.59020169]

>>59019107
Buy land under market value. Sell at market value. You have to do mailing campaigns. I’m getting into this myself. LandGeek is the program

[Anonymous No.59020297]

>>59019107
Create feral hog eradication company. Have property owners pay you to kill wild boars on their property. Set traps. Kill by helicopter. Whatever it takes. Harvest and process all kills for meat. Transport frozen meat by the shipping container overseas for sale. Sell at a premium. Certain Asian countries and European countries consider it a delicacy. Market it as “Texas Wild Boar” or some shit. Best part is European wild boar are radioactive. Exported wild boar could become like Japanese Kobe beef. Those destructive pests are gold on four legs.

[Anonymous No.59020530]

>>58999902
I’d say you probably be better off establishing a presence on eBay or something, brick and mortar prices can defeat the purpose for many

[Anonymous No.59020567]

>>58999630
Most medical facilities probably have a facility for that bud also knife salesmen or traveling knife sharpener sounds like a medieval trade

[Anonymous No.59020626]

>>59018707
Check out poovak.com. Looks painless.

[Anonymous No.59020773]

>>59020626
I’m a huge advocate for starting a dog shit removal small business. Here is what I don’t understand about vacuuming feces-how does a moist spike or logs go into a machine, a vacuum, without literal brown shit being smeared from intake to holding chamber? It’s going to look like Willy wonka had a turtle head vacuumed direct from the rectum. The concept is beyond me. I don’t know, maybe it’s just in my universe where shit has the consistency of chunky peanut butter. Everywhere else it’s dehydrated pellets.

[Anonymous No.59020839]

Bizbros, I want to buy 4chan pass so I can bypass ip range ban in my country so I can post thread about business opportunities in my country but I'm worried jannies will ban me for nothing and I'll just lose that 20$

Second question, I want to provide possible prospects in my country for foreign investors. And I will provide services like 1 hour video call for anyone who wants to ask about certain things in the country as a form of market study and cost estimation of a business project. It will be a symbolic price like 10$ or something.

Do you think this will work. I posted something similar a while ago and it was relatively well received by bizbros but then they banned all remaining isp ip ranges here.

[Anonymous No.59020933]

>>59020839
You’re able to post this post of yours therefor you can post. You sound like a fucking scammer. Or pathetic attempt to buildup to asking for money. Just post your small business idea or GTFO

[Anonymous No.59021118]

>>59014848
>removing weeds between paving stones/sealing the space between them
lol how do you even do that? hard mode: no poisons or cancer causing monsato chemicals

[Anonymous No.59021518]

>>59021118
Elbow grease brother.