/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.58891497]

If you don't have $500,000 to $1,000,000 worth of Bitcoin/Ethereum right now, the chances of you making it in Crypto are very slim to none.

>my memecoin will save me

Maybe, but it probably wont.

[Anonymous No.58891499]

>>58891497
I have 100k worth of FUN, I’d say my chances are better then all the poorfags hodling eth and btc alone

[Anonymous No.58891509]

>>58891497
False. That's what alt coins are for.

[Anonymous No.58891543]

>>58891509
>alt coins
Somebody tell him...

[Anonymous No.58891547]

Or but the things the new financial system will be running on. They won't go zero with regulations.

[Anonymous No.58891548]

>>58891497
Not even that feels like a lot. Like $1mm in BTC now could turn to $3mm but that's still not /makeit/ territory.

[Anonymous No.58891555]

>>58891548
It's "security" money though. Getting security money is make it territory these days

[Anonymous No.58891569]

>>58891497
K...keep me posted

[Anonymous No.58891579]

>>58891497
So you're saying there's a chance. Kek.

[Anonymous No.58891587]

that's not true memecoins are doing great right now tho and I'm gonna bag some MBM

[Anonymous No.58891631]

>>58891579
There is, but its hard to find it. I made decent money from Apu and I have a friend who made almost 7 figures on Apu from a 10k investment. That ship has sailed though. Hard to find things like that, even harder to get in early enough, can it can be somewhat difficult to get the liquidity to exit without losing much on price impact.

[Anonymous No.58892233]

>>58891497
How much is making it to you?

[Anonymous No.58892238]

>>58891497
I have $500k in Chainlink (ticker: LINK). What are my odds?

[Anonymous No.58892282]

>>58891497
If you have $500,000 to $1,000,000 worth of Bitcoin/Ethereum right now, the chances of you losing 90% of it is extremely high.

[Anonymous No.58892291]

>>58892282
kek bobo, we are not in 2026 yet

[Anonymous No.58892297]

>>58892238
total world domination
(I ain't joking)

a 1k suicide stack will make you a duce in the next years

[Anonymous No.58892300]

>>58892291
Just you wait, mumu. The reddening will be here soon, it will be a capitulation the likes of which have not been seen before.

[Anonymous No.58892304]

>>58892238
how does $12,000 sound?

[Anonymous No.58892305]

>>58892300
yeah, i agree
in 2026

[Anonymous No.58892306]

>>58891509
WAGMI

>>58891543
>someone tell him
I just did

[Anonymous No.58892321]

>>58892305
By then it will be too late. This is the beginning of the end. The 6 year bear market is here.

[Anonymous No.58892328]

>>58892321
yeah, not at all
your timeline is messed up, the crash you are talking about is in 2026
2025 is ultrabullish

[Anonymous No.58892341]

>>58892328
The top in 2025 will be 35k~
THE capitulation is coming.

[Anonymous No.58892345]

>>58892341
lmao, pure delusion
sorry bobo, i hope you are not already priced out

[Anonymous No.58892353]

>>58892341
>35k
that's little bit too optimistic for ETH, anon, i don't think it'll go higher than 12k

[Anonymous No.58892354]

>>58892345
The only delusion is thinking this isn't the top.
-95% is coming. Watch as the blow off top spikes with volume that's not been seen since 2015.

[Anonymous No.58892359]

>>58892354
>this time is different
>because we've hit 63k before halving which is 10k away from the ath
kek sure thing bobo
just wait and see, there's nothing you can do to stop it

[Anonymous No.58892365]

>>58892359
Point to any other time where BTC has triple topped on the weekly scale.
Or where BTC reached the ATH during the halving.

....I'll wait

[Anonymous No.58892380]

>>58892365
>Point to any other time where BTC has triple topped on the weekly scale.
sept 2019 to feb 2020
>Or where BTC reached the ATH during the halving.
never happened
69k vs 63k, ath not reached
you cannot dimiss inflation on a 4 years period lmao

[Anonymous No.58892415]

>>58892380
>sept 2019 to feb 2020
Below the ATH by about half. The ATH for that run was 18k~. The "triple top" you're referring to (which wasn't a triple top) was at 11k~.

>On April 19, 2024
Halving.
Price of BTC: 73k.

This is a triple top, and it's the same pattern that's forming on the weekly. You see the blow off top that happened right after? Do you know what they say about fractal patterns on charts?
That same thing will happen, we blow off to 15k, then 2x to 30, exactly like the triple top from 2021 just on a larger scale. Then the following dump from nov 2021 will happen on a larger scale pushing the price to about 6k from 30k~.

[Anonymous No.58892434]

>>58892415
this is as much a triple top as the one you are talking about

[Anonymous No.58892438]

>>58891497
the fact you think anyone still holding ethereum is gonna le make it means you're a retard. eth has peaked

[Anonymous No.58892440]

>>58892328
i'm seeing way too many retards say 2025 is le bullish too
it'll be the year of crab/bear for sure

[Anonymous No.58892445]

>>58892380
taking into account inflation, btc hasn't even surpassed 2017 ATH lol

[Anonymous No.58892446]

>>58892440
wrong, retail is bearish rn
check the data about who's selling (retail) and who's buying (whales) right now

[Anonymous No.58892448]

>>58892446
>big wallets are making big transactions that is le boolish
you're retarded dude

[Anonymous No.58892456]

>>58892445
$20k in 2017 is $25,664 now lmao what are you smoking
google any online calculator
>>58892448
accumulating != "big transactions"

[Anonymous No.58892458]

>>58892434
Negative, that is a double top, circled it in blue.
Triple tops share a bottom range. See how the bottom range (white line) is not shared with another other bottoms in that, and how when that white line is broken the next uptrend begins?
That's not a triple top. The other tops are just too far away and the bottoms are too far away, they're literally off by like 40%.
There is a triple top, which I circled in red, which leads to the following big selloff.

[Anonymous No.58892461]

>>58892456
whatever dude. talking to you eternal btc bulls is tiresome. it won't just go up forever cuz it always has before.

[Anonymous No.58892467]

>>58892458
good analysis bro, i agree
so sick of these perma bull moon boys
market needs a drastic culling

[Anonymous No.58892472]

>>58892458
so wait, what triple top are you talking about right now?
you mean the 2021 top is not part of your triple top, but you are only referring to what happened in 2024? hahahahahahaha
anon that's just how a descending broadening triangle works

[Anonymous No.58892480]

>>58892461
>it won't just go up forever
of course, we'll crash very hard in 2026
just as we did in 2022 and 2018, cycles last 4 years
your timeline is just wrong, simple as that

[Anonymous No.58892484]

>>58892480
>2025 will be boolish cuz it just has to, ok
lol, it will not

[Anonymous No.58892489]

>>58892484
>this time is different just because it has to, ok
kek

[Anonymous No.58892501]

youre almost right. only bitcoin

[Anonymous No.58892516]

>>58892467
At least someone gets it. We're about to see a MASSIVE blow off top.
>>58892472
You know, just the massive triple top on the weekly, see how they all share a bottom range AND a top range?
See how the tops get slightly higher each time, JUST like it happened on the smaller scale in early 2021?

[Anonymous No.58892521]

>>58892489
if you dont understand that fiat is a ponzi, then yes, you will think bitcoin is the same as any other shitcoin. but it was created to offer an alternative to govt controlled fiat. a place to store value in something that you also dont have to worry about physically, like gold. it has first mover advantage, has chugged along in a more stable way than all other top cryptos so it is seen as reliable, and has seen more development than any other token to keep up with evolving use cases, aka the ln network for micropayments. its not to say that no other token will ever have utility or replace bitcoin, that is almost assuredly going to happen. but noone would trust it until bitcoin has already won first. think about it

>>58892516
>rate cuts are gonna lead to assets collapsing!
how?

[Anonymous No.58892523]

>>58892516
>how they all share a bottom range
they don't at all
they do as much as in >>58892434 if you zoom in enough
literally the same thing exactly

meanwhile we are mimicking the other cycles to the letter
channel support perfectly respected
0 reasons to think this time is different so far
bobos on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.58892531]

>>58892523
uups, the 2020 layer was hidden

[Anonymous No.58892580]

>>58892521
>how?
How did the FED rate increases from 2015 to 2019 lead to a bull run in crypto?
2015 was the bottom there, and the FED rates were 0.25% and went all the way up to 2.5% in 2019.
How did the FED rate increasing from 0.25% in 2022 to 5.5% today lead to another 4x bull fun for crypto?

How did the FED rate cuts from 2000 lead to the 2001 crash?
How did the FED rate cuts in 2007 lead to the house crash of 2008?

WHOOPS MUMU. YOU DUN GOOFED.
>>58892523
Nothing at all like the previous cycles. Not even remotely close. And if you zoom out to the 3month, it turns into a double top. Which also didn't happen in previous cycles.

[Anonymous No.58892589]

>>58892580
>if you zoom out
if you zoom out you'll see a massive cup and handle
the handle is almost completed
time is ticking bobo, you have to bring it under 46k in like one week to invalidate the channel

[Anonymous No.58892597]

>>58892580
>How did the FED rate increases from 2015 to 2019 lead to a bull run in crypto?
because bitcoin is a legit financial instrument with actual purpose. its going to go up until something is demonstrably better, but also after given enough time, since some people wont trust something. the rest of crypto is a hype train

>How did the FED rate cuts from 2000 lead to the 2001 crash?
theyre not even related. cuts didnt cause a crash

>How did the FED rate cuts in 2007 lead to the house crash of 2008?
same thing

you dont know that much about finance. these crashes are caused by printing

[Anonymous No.58892613]

>>58892580
>How did the FED rate cuts from 2000 lead to the 2001 crash?
>How did the FED rate cuts in 2007 lead to the house crash of 2008?
confusing cause and effect
if you perform autopsies on X bodies from an hospital and notice they all have drugs in them, do you conclude that the drugs are what caused the deaths?

[Anonymous No.58892628]

>>58892589
Yeah, it doesn't exist. If I zoom out I see the volume decreasing as the price increases.
Which, guess what? That's the biggest top signal. The couple that with the massive triple top at the ATH, we're going to see massive selling volume.
>>58892597
>theyre not even related.
>The FED rates are related when I want them to be, and they're unrelated when I don't like what it says
lol

FED rates are the highest they've been since the 2000 .com bubble crash.
I wonder what will happen when they cut this time...
HMMMMM. I wonder if the same thing will happen..
HMMMMMMMMM....?
No, surely, this time will be different, right?! A FED rate cut surely couldn't be an indicator of an upcoming crash, like it was in the past... RIIIIIIGHT?
>>58892613
Those drugs likely contributed to their cause of death, especially if they're all the same drug.

[Anonymous No.58892633]

>FED rates increase as bull run happens
>FED rates flatline at the top
>FED rate cuts
>Crash happens
Reallllly makes you dink!

Oh, hey, would you look at that... The FED rates are flat after an increase that was aligned with a bull run, and now there's talks of a FED rate cut...
MMMMM What could that possibly mean....
I know! It means the price will go up! Because this time is different!

[Anonymous No.58892640]

>>58892628
oh, i dont mean to say that it doesnt do anything or indicate a crash cant happen or something. but look at what i said originally: that cuts wont cause it. that doesnt mean that there arent other things at play like an impending crash. but the boom and bust cycle is created by printing, and they will print when this recession hits, unless they want people starving in the streets. but that will come at the behest of the value of people that hold wealth in usd, and the smarter ones escape to other assets like bitcoin, gold, real estate.

[Anonymous No.58892665]

>>58892640
I don't know the causal relationship between FED rate cuts and crashes, but there's clearly a correlation.
Just compare the chart to BTC or SPX or whatever.
https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/interest-rate

The FED rate cuts align pretty perfectly with crashes and bull runs.
FED rates were flat @ 6.5 in 2000. FED rates cut start at the beginning of 2001, which is coincidentally exactly when the .com bubble popped, and lead to a -50% on SPX.
Then the rates were flat at 2003, which was the start of the next bull run. Then FED rates flatten out in 06/07 and then cuts in late 2007, which is followed by a housing market crash.
It's very clear that FED rate increases = bull run
FED rate decreases = bear run
There's probably some super complex math for why this happens, but I don't know it. But you can very clearly see it.

[Anonymous No.58892671]

>>58892665
Also:
Low FED rates that are flat = bull run starting/bear run ending
High FED rates that are flat = bull run ending/bear run starting.

[Anonymous No.58892677]

>>58892665
yeah no youre right. the correlation there is because after printing happens, you need to get liquidity out of the system to stop inflation, so you raise rates. but raising rates means suddenly the entire economy has way less access to easy money, and there are many 2nd order effects of this beyond just being a little bit more poor that would take a book to explain. the fact a recession is literally looming right over our heads is exactly why theyre about to CUT rates now.

the only real lesson learned from fiat though is to stay the fuck out of it. as volatile as bitcoin is, its better than usd. maybe you dont buy it now though, maybe you buy it after a crash. thats up to you. i can handle even extremely drastic swings in bitcoin price, so i dont bother trying to trade for more money in the interim

[Anonymous No.58892683]

>>58892628
>Those drugs likely contributed to their cause of death, especially if they're all the same drug.
and that's why you are an idiot lol

>dying patient coming in
>the doctors give him some X medicine to try to save him
>he dies anyway
>coroner sees the medicine in the body
>concludes the medicine is the cause of death, or related to the death anyway

you are the coroner (which is an idiot)
if you don't understand why, or this metaphor in general, i don't think i can help you further

[Anonymous No.58892714]

>>58892677
>stay the fuck out of it
That's my point. FED rates are flat at a 20 year high, and BTC is at the top, same with SPX.

Interestingly, the FED rates were 6.25% at the start of the great depression, and were cut pretty massively to around 2% right as things kicked off.
If there's a huge cut, we might be headed into a Great Depression v2.
Kinda spoopy.
>>58892683
Oh you dumpass. The medicine WAS related to his cause of death. You even said it yourself:
>the doctors give him some X medicine to try to save him

[Anonymous No.58892720]

>>58891631
>I have a friend who made almost 7 figures on Apu from a 10k investment.
Let me guess that person is still holding? lol...

[Anonymous No.58892726]

>>58892714
kek
so you did NOT understand the metaphor

[Anonymous No.58892741]

>>58892726
What the fuck're you on about?

>Anon has x condition and is dying
>Goes to doctor
>Doctor gives him y medication to stop him from ded
>He ded anyway
>He shows up in my coroners office as ded
>He has y medication in his body
>He probably died to x condition

There is a relationship between x and y, dipass.
It's called a CORRELATION.

[Anonymous No.58892746]

>>58892714
>The medicine WAS related to his cause of death
it's not, nigga
that medicine is just the only way the doctors have to try to save a dying patient
so obviously you'll always find it in dead people, but doesn't mean it's the cause of death (quite the opposite: is their last try to save him, because he's already dying)
hint1: you don't give that medicine to healthy people
hint2: the patient would die anyway if you don't give him the medicine (probably faster)
hope this helps your little brain

[Anonymous No.58892749]

>>58891497
>/Ethereum

[Anonymous No.58892758]

>>58892746
>that medicine is just the only way the doctors have to try to save a dying patient
IT WAS RELATED TO HIS CAUSE OF DEATH THEN YOU DUMBASS LMAO

You cannot be this dense that you cannot understand correlations.

[Anonymous No.58892766]

>>58892758
nigga you literally wrote
>How did the FED rate cuts from 2000 lead to the 2001 crash?
>How did the FED rate cuts in 2007 lead to the house crash of 2008?
if you understand the point you don't write this, simple as

[Anonymous No.58892792]

>>58892758
and also this:
>Those drugs likely contributed to their cause of death
same thing

[Anonymous No.58892800]

>>58892766
I was asking anon a question, because he asked me the same question.

How did x medication lead to y death? x medication didn't CAUSE the death, but y condition DID.

How did FED cuts lead to x crash? The cuts didn't CAUSE it but Y [thing] did, and that's why the rates were cut.
It's very simple logic, man. How aren't you getting this? Are you unironically 95 IQ or something? I never said x medication CUASED the death, I said they're RELATED.
Just like I never said the FED cuts CAUSED the crash, I said they're RELATED.
>>58892792
The drugs did contribute to the cause, they didn't save him from y condition. Come on....
Don't you understand relationships at all...?

[Anonymous No.58892803]

This is so painful...
It's physically painful to think that people are this dumb and don't understand extremely simple concepts that are worded extremely simply...

[Anonymous No.58892812]

>>58892800
>I never said x medication CUASED the death
yeah but you said it
>CONTRIBUTED
to it, which is equally wrong
just read your own posts
the point is that in reality the medication didn't cause nor contribute at all to the death
instead, it's something that goes (or tries to go) in the exact opposite direction
and moreover, the important part is that sometimes the medicine does work, otherwise they wouldn't even try it

[Anonymous No.58892815]

>>58892812
Ok I'm done arguing with you. You clearly cannot wrap your head around this very basic concept.
Maybe someone else who has the patience to deal with dumbs will explain it to you.

[Anonymous No.58892820]

>>58892800
>The drugs did contribute to the cause, they didn't save him from y condition
what the FUCK goes on in your brain man
if you are falling from a cliff and i throw a rope to you but you don't catch in time and die, did the rope contribute to your death? how the FUCK can someone think this make any sense
and then you also write this? >>58892803
you are fucked up in the brain, just admit the big L and shut up lmao

[Anonymous No.58892841]

>>58892815
>patient has diabetes
>they amputate his foot to save him
>sadly it's not enough and he dies anyway (from diabetes)
>conclusion: the amputation contributed to the death
you have brain damage

[Anonymous No.58892932]

>>58892841
>"What is a correlation?" For $1,000

[Anonymous No.58892953]

>>58892932
this is

[Anonymous No.58893303]

>>58892932

[Anonymous No.58893333]

>>58891497
Yeah you're fucked, the best you can expect is a 2x from stock, or BTC/ETH over 10 years lol.

[Anonymous No.58894095]

>>58891497
see but the thing is that i've already made 10k by just playing panda roll, what makes (YOU) think i wont make it? i have empirical proof OP

[Anonymous No.58894225]

>>58892282
This can only happen if you’re a low IQ trader. I’m making money both up and down, and when I’m too lazy, I just let Superbots do the work
>Gotta play smart in this game.

[Anonymous No.58894264]

>>58891497
Sitting on 60k worth of NAI and FET, so I’m in a way better spot than the maxi poorfags.

[Anonymous No.58894303]

>>58891497
BTC and ETH may not save me, but low-cap altcoins can definitely help. I'm counting on DUA, SUI, ZIL, and HBAR.

[Anonymous No.58894311]

>>58892720
Nah he DCA'd out during the first run upto 400M

[Anonymous No.58894333]

>>58891497
>My memecoin will save me
Ehh, maybe? I mean, i just throw a bunch of money and check on it the next month, i have more important things to do (like playing Off the Grid with the boys) and going to zoomer parties