/XMR/ Monero General

[Anonymous No.58827383]

Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

[Anonymous No.58827401]

PREVIOUS THREAD: >>58768323

[Anonymous No.58827419]

START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

[Anonymous No.58827431]

*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

[Anonymous No.58827448]

Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Buy on Amazon with XMR!
https://monezon.com
https://peershop.app

>Win XMR!
https://monero.vegas/
https://sigmanero.org/

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Babylon #
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>DrugTown #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fF95wTNi


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development?
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan?
https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.58827465]

START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P will thus play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

[Anonymous No.58827486]

>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

[Anonymous No.58828669]

Based

[Anonymous No.58829311]

dead general

[Anonymous No.58829354]

We back hamasbros

Today i got called by my local bank warning me of a "scam company" when i was sending money to swiss through sepa to buy monero.
Germans are really furious about us sending our money to a country their EU has no controle over.
They were so fucking pissed when i told them to send them the money either way and theres nothing they can do about it

[Anonymous No.58829376]

monero-chan with the insanely bullish reversal

[Anonymous No.58830450]

>>58829376
I'm not surprised it's $150 algorithmic stablecoin anyway

[Anonymous No.58831036]

>>58830450
I still think it's going to 210 this year

[Anonymous No.58831075]

>>58829376
Staying stable against the USD is the same as bleeding against inflation.

[Anonymous No.58831292]

>>58831075
Not anymore. It's deflation time baby.

[Anonymous No.58831399]

>>58831075
>buy and hold crypto
get a load of this retard

[Anonymous No.58831558]

>>58831399
If you aren't holding it then why do you care about the price?

[Anonymous No.58831588]

>>58831558
Macro bias is important. Idgaf if it goes to exactly 210, but it's moving in that direction.

[Anonymous No.58831721]

>>58831588
It is not moving anywhere except sideways. And all Monero is held by someone whether market makers, dealers, or retail. It's all being held and every party involved cares about the price.

[Anonymous No.58831733]

Watching moonfags shitting themselves over the loss of their make-believe profits is priceless.

[Anonymous No.58831760]

>>58831588
It is not moving anywhere except sideways. And all Monero is held by someone whether market makers, dealers, or retail and they all stand to gain from it going up.

[Anonymous No.58831831]

>>58818256
>wallet won't sync
>app craps out when resyncing or touching anything else
>try to restore from recovery phrase
>loads for 10hours no progress
>download like 5 different apps until one is able to restore my wallet
Every step along the way was made as hard as possible, no community support and scam bots on telegram and discord. Firo ecosystem is a mess.

[Anonymous No.58831833]

>>58831760
>It is not moving anywhere except sideways.

Excellent. Low volatility is ideal for doing business.

[Anonymous No.58831911]

>>58829354
lol
>>58829376
>>58830450
I'm so relaxed about xmr price. it's used too much to depreciate significantly. Also idk if it's just me but it feels like it get's rarer and more precious now that it's harder to get non kyc.
if scrutiny increases and it prevails it has massive potential to increase in value imo.

[Anonymous No.58832044]

>>58831760
Market makers only want price to go up indefinitely when they know the other principles, otherwise gamma is uncontrollable. They don't want to wake up one day and realize they've gone 90% short into one oligarch with no way to close.

>>58831833
Yeah if you watch the charts there are a lot of big players who clearly don't care about getting good fills. Which laser-eyed crypto cultists are totally flummoxed by. Someone actually uses the token for something besides selling into bigger idiots.

[Anonymous No.58833350]

[VEIL PROJECT No.58833689]

>>58828669
>>58831733
>>58831911
>I’m so relaxed
same samer

[Anonymous No.58833964]

[Anonymous No.58833999]

We're back.

[Anonymous No.58834048]

>>58833350
Muh based nigger

[Anonymous No.58834230]

>>58827383
brainlet here
what are my chances of getting a block reward by solo mining with 480 H/s? is there a formula to calculate?

[Anonymous No.58835660]

>>58834230
You're basically playing the lottery.

[Anonymous No.58836022]

So I've downloaded the official GUI wallet, and I'm kind of stuck on the remaining 100k deamon blocks.
Is it normal that it's a bit slow towards the end? and holy fuck, I didn't think it would take like 180GB of space on my disk.

[Sage No.58836122]

Legally rehypothecated out of cold wallets

[Anonymous No.58836207]

>Buy crypto for 100 buxx on sfx
>get 105 worth of krypto
sasuga sepa reliant transaction that requires 2 days to be completed
just send your cash to swiss, your local bank hates that trick

[Anonymous No.58836214]

>>58836022
Yes, its apparently normal if you connect to a private node.
I'm on 100k blocks aswell. This shit takes days to finish

[Anonymous No.58836306]

>>58836214
>This shit takes days to finish
Damn, oh well. At least I know it isn't a problem on my end

[Anonymous No.58836608]

>>58836122
schizophrenia
its not a cold wallet if it can be rehypothecated by banks

[Anonymous No.58836758]

Statistically speaking, 100% of Monero holders are pedophiles.

[Anonymous No.58836764]

>>58836758
problem?

[Anonymous No.58836773]

>>58836758
Can confirm.

[Anonymous No.58836778]

>>58827383
We need one of these for kas, rsr, inj, fun, tao, pretty much every utility gem, fuck talking about meme’s

[Anonymous No.58836880]

>>58836758
Statistically speaking, 100% of the people who associate Monero users with pedophilia are cucks who are salty that privacy works.

[Anonymous No.58837258]

Can someone post the Pepe xmr make it stack levels image? I remember it being posted a few years ago but can't find it anymore.

Thanks.

[Anonymous No.58837944]

>>58837258

[Anonymous No.58838299]

MONERO TILL THE GRAVE

[Anonymous No.58838750]

>>58836306
There are ways to speed it up though with a ssd, but i dont really know how since my wallet is on an ancient laptop

[Anonymous No.58838936]

>>58827383
Again, what’s the point if every single place requires kyc and you must give up your privacy and personal information in order to purchase, zero anonymity.

[Anonymous No.58838961]

>>58838936
Get yourself cakewallet on your smartphone.
Press buy monero, go to sfx.swiss.
Press buy, send money via sepa, once the transakton arrives to their bankaccount you get your monero

[Anonymous No.58839330]

>>58838961
>sfx.swiss
Is this a website?

[Anonymous No.58839369]

>>58837944
Here's the later version.

[Anonymous No.58839599]

>>58838936
>Again, what’s the point if every single place requires kyc and you must give up your privacy and personal information in order to purchase, zero anonymity.

What the fuck do you think decentralized exchanges are for?

[VEIL PROJECT No.58840156]

>>58838936
maybe this is too obvious to state, but aside dex options to avoid kyc all together, what you do with your xmr after you kyc is between you (or your trading partner) alone. like physical cash.

[Anonymous No.58840772]

God fucking damn it, is there ANY payment processing service in current year that doesn't demand your ID and a camera selfie? Semi-rhetorical question of course, but if you can surprise me with one such service I'd be eternally grateful. But seriously, what the fuck is next, DNA biometrics? RFID implants?

[Anonymous No.58840996]

>>58839330
Yes, but you use the non-kyc feature through the smartphone wallet.
They also have onramper for kyc

The only down/upside is that it works through sepa banktransactions.
Therefor it might happen that you order on a saturday and get a different course because the bank transfer is completed by thursday evening

[Anonymous No.58841105]

>>58840772
Well yeah, what did you expect KYC to be? User-friendly? LOL

[Anonymous No.58841135]

>>58840772
https://haveno.exchange/

[Anonymous No.58841689]

>>58840996
>sfx.swiss
Maybe you have a typo cause this domain doesn't resolve.

[Anonymous No.58841768]

>>58841689
My bad, its Dfx.swiss

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.58842411]

Reporting in
##################################
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU (embed)
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L (embed)
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6 (embed)
##################################

[Anonymous No.58842437]

>>58831733
>>58833689
>>58830450
>>58831036
is XMR a stablecoin? Why doesn't it change price? Pls explain I am retarded

[Anonymous No.58842842]

>>58842437
>Why doesn't it change price? Pls explain I am retarded

Because:

1. its actually used as currency for real-world commerce instead of simply being traded back and forth and hoarded into irrelevance.
2. its widely delisted and thus less subject to organized wash trading, which is primarily what drives price action in this retarded clown market.

TL;DR: everything that pumps is fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.58843232]

>>58842842
So crypto that's actually used for it's purpose does not pump?

[Anonymous No.58843249]

>>58843232
Cryptocurrency isn't actually that valuable.

[Anonymous No.58843650]

>>58842437
Monero is mainly used by punks, commies and terrorists. Neither is interested in any investment nonsense. People dont dream of traveling to the moon, but to hit a block with their pentium 2 processor so they can get themselve a bag of shiny pills

[Anonymous No.58844779]

AI summary of MRL meeting on the 7th of August:

>Upcoming stress testing of monerod for two more months, with plans to re-fork testnet to keep storage requirements lower.

>Discussion on implementing Erlay or a more bandwidth-efficient transaction propagation system.

>Concerns raised about potential privacy risks if malicious nodes can query fluff phase transaction pools at will.

>Updates on Full-Chain Membership Proofs (FCMP) integration, including upcoming PR submission.

>Proposal to re-establish general development meetings, potentially relocating from Seraphis wallet workgroup to a broader dev meeting format.

>Review of transaction propagation papers, including Dandelion++ and Clover protocols.

>Mention of a divisor review report being released.

>Discussion on the effectiveness of Dandelion++ for nodes with closed ports.

>Updates on individual research and development efforts, including work on the Carrot paper and FCMP integration.

[Anonymous No.58845331]

I've got a shitty old poweredge server, and by shitty I mean shitty, it's got an old xeon and 48gb of ddr2.
if I just slapped in a sata SSD would it be suitable for running an XMR node? if so what other XMR related services should I host?

[Anonymous No.58845528]

So predictably BTC's best pal Tether has just printed yet another $1 billion USDT, we're currently at $115 billion and counting.

[Anonymous No.58845552]

>>58843232
>So crypto that's actually used for it's purpose does not pump?

Ancient /biz/ proverb: "the more useless it is, the more it shall pump"

[Anonymous No.58845964]

>>58841135
Looks nice,but to put your money in or take it out you need a payment processor. And guess what, those demand KYC.

[Anonymous No.58846000]

Does monerofags hold btc?

[Anonymous No.58846246]

>>58846000
Nah. Just buy QQQ and its leveraged counterparts. Much better value.

[Anonymous No.58846273]

>>58845964
No, you can set up face to face or cash by mail trades. Or a bank transfer but that's KYC on your bank's end.

[Anonymous No.58846425]

Newfag. I used Kraken to buy XMR. How do I deposit it into my wallet in the monerujo app on my phone?

[Anonymous No.58846540]

>>58839369

[Anonymous No.58846917]

>>58827383
Why isn't Monero on thorchain? Would save from having to use these bs no liquidity dexs

[Anonymous No.58846961]

>>58846917
Because supporting Monero is complicated. This is why there's so much hype for Serai as a grand unified dex thing.

[Anonymous No.58846975]

>>58846961
Then make it not complicated. Switch to zk-sharts or whatever it is you need to make monero not such a clusterfuck of tacked together solutions

[Anonymous No.58846990]

Anyone one else besides me that wants to get cucked by monero-chan?

[Anonymous No.58847067]

They say he got bitcoin for bis fake decentralisation scheme and then "tried to conceil it" did he use monero?

[Anonymous No.58847123]

>>58846975
sorry sweaty, privacy trumps moonfaggotry

[Anonymous No.58847165]

>>58847123
Statistical privacy isn't true privacy. That they've taken forever to make a truly private system or make a well designed system that can connect with other sources of liquidity so I can actually buy a decent amount without getting stabbed over an in person cash trade, is pure laziness

[Sage No.58847268]

[Anonymous No.58847317]

Just another incredible coincidence, of course.

[Anonymous No.58847983]

x5 miners are on sale
i'm gonna buy one

[Anonymous No.58847992]

>>58847983
fuck bros i got scammed

[Anonymous No.58847997]

the FIRST result on duckduckgo is for a scam site. fuck this search engine

[Anonymous No.58848002]

im retarded guys
go on without me

[Anonymous No.58848047]

>>58848002
>>58847983
Are you okay bro?
Why would you buy an ASIC anyway?

[Anonymous No.58848079]

>>58848047
it's not an ASIC its RISC-V
and yeah i feel stupid but it wasn't a huge amount of money and i learned a lesson i guess

[Anonymous No.58848237]

>>58847317
Yes? They hold treasuries proportional to USDT supply. It's not like they print out of thin air. Why does everyone pretend like this is a big conspiracy?

[Anonymous No.58848250]

>>58848237
>Yes? They hold treasuries proportional to USDT supply. It's not like they print out of thin air. Why does everyone pretend like this is a big conspiracy?

Just trust the lying liars that have already been caught lying about their reserves previously, bro!

[Anonymous No.58848253]

>>58847997
Brave Search is much better.

[Anonymous No.58849003]

bumping this thread because of sentimental reasons

[Anonymous No.58849293]

>>58848250
At this point they hold so many that it doesn't matter. The System will cover the difference because they can't have Tether explode and wreck the bond market.

[Anonymous No.58849297]

>>58847992
>>58847997
What did you see after your order? I was eyeing the same site.

[Anonymous No.58849344]

>>58848253
yeah i'm switching to something like that
>>58849297
literally nothing. I put in my info (so the scammers have that too, but whatever) and it had a crypto payment portal and after I sent my LTC literally nothing happened. It's a scam

[Anonymous No.58849374]

>>58849344
Sorry to hear that bro. Thanks for reporting back

[None !!ZrnK6IK8Nit No.58849868]

>>58847997
ddg is such a joke now

[Anonymous No.58850092]

>>58849293
>At this point they hold so many that it doesn't matter.

lmao listen to yourself, what Tether claims to be true and what actually is true has a history of being polar opposites. What we know for a fact right now is that:

1. Tether backed out of a proper 3rd party audit due to the auditor requesting "too much information".
2. Tether has been caught lying about their reserves, fined $40+ million for it and banned from doing business in NYC state ever again
3. Tether's attestations are NOT financial audits but cherry-picked fluff pieces that determine ONLY whether the data being examined by the "attestator" is accurate at that precise moment in time. Hence, any iteration of attestation is pretty useless, especially as a matter of due diligence.
4. "Tether prints, BTC pumps" is an established meme borne out of an unending series of incredible coincidences.

Bottom line: what Tether holds on paper vs what is actually available for USDT redemption is unknown, which keeps us squarely in "trust me, bro" territory.

BTW, Tether’s own terms of service expressly state that, regardless of whether its reserves are real or imagined, Tether can refuse to redeem your USDT for cash "for any reason (or for no reason) at any time." Think about that the next time Paolo starts spouting off about Tether's "strength and stability."


>The System will cover the difference because they can't have Tether explode and wreck the bond market.

Yes, Uncle Sam is totally and utterly at the mercy of Tether, which isn't even in the Top 15 holders of US debt. Wetbrain.

I get it though, you deluded BTC bagholders desperately need Tether to be seen as a non-issue lest the blackpilling eventually results in a fatal loss of confidence in Snitchcoin.

Regardless, the blackpilling will continue. $100K BTC end of year. HODL!

[Anonymous No.58850358]

>>58847983
>>58847992
>>58847997
>>58848002
>>58848079
>>58849344
thank you for your service

[Anonymous No.58850494]

lol gotta love how normalized "Tether prints, BTC pumps" has become in this deranged clown market.

[Anonymous No.58850529]

>>58850092
>Yes, Uncle Sam is totally and utterly at the mercy of Tether, which isn't even in the Top 15 holders of US debt.
They bailed out Circle and they hold far less. The Federal Reserve board wants people to buy this shit.

Your arguments are based on the premise that Tether + Bitcoin comes from outside the existing financial system and this is some private scam that got way out of control. If that was the case, banks would've colluded to break it years ago. This is something that was either invented to help prop up the existing system or was co-opted for that purpose very early on.

[Anonymous No.58850787]

>>58850529
Ultimately whether it's backed or not (though it is) is a moot point since USDT is no less a fiction than USD is, the latter are created out of thin air. USDT is backed if the government wants it to be and will collapse if the government wants. All that matters is whether tether existing is in the feds best interests, which it is.

[Anonymous No.58851085]

>>58850529
>>58850787

Trust Me, Bro: The Post.

So now we've gone from "Tether is totally above board" to "it doesn't matter if they're lying, Tether is too big to fail," implying "Based Uncle Sam wants us to have lambos."

Keep going, this is utterly fascinating!

[Anonymous No.58851116]

>>58851085
Uncle Sam is just angling for more ways to steal your savings. There's nothing above board about any of it. If you're going to inflate a fake asset to sell and pay off your debts, you want to do it as cheaply as possible. Ideally using a deniable 3rd party to do securities fraud. Even if they get blown up and you have to bail them out a little, it's cheaper than doing everything above board from the start. It's a really sad version of the East India Company scam.

[Anonymous No.58851462]

i just priced out a 19kH/s rig for the cheap price of $350
net loss counting operational cost and current XMR price currently is -$0.34 daily. to break even operationally, XMR would need to be $267 consistently. if it stayed at $268, I would need to mine for an additional 350 days just to cover initial investment. if I then wanted to pay back operational costs until that point, it would take a couple more years.
so basically, I need to mine for 4 years straight just to beak even realistically? xmr won't stay above $260 in a bear market for a long time
I actually spent hours finding components I think I nailed down a pretty good kH/$ and it turns out this coin is a piece of shit disappointment. why would I, OR ANYONE ELSE, ever mine this? it would be better to buy.
anonymous my ass if you have to operate at a loss. should just rename it honeypot coin

[Anonymous No.58851718]

>>58851462
Depending on where you live and how much you pay for electricity, you actually make a profit.
The XMR mining subreddit could help you optimize your situation and see if it's financially viable depending on your watt hour price.

[Anonymous No.58851845]

>>58851462
Bot farms can afford to mine and dump at any price since they have zero costs, undercutting all the legitimate users and suppressing the price.

[Anonymous No.58851860]

>>58827383
pedo coin

[cheek buster 9000 No.58851998]

>>58851860
>pedo coin
That coin has been majority used for drug transactions and gift cards.

[cheek buster 9000 No.58852001]

I break the laws all day everyday and with the power of monero I have become unstoppable.

[Anonymous No.58852360]

>>58851462
Turns out hardcore privacy coin has lots of users who are willing to mine at a loss for ultimate privacy. Who knew?

>>58851845
Every coin is private when you're mining though. Bot farms should be focused on profit.

[Anonymous No.58852804]

How the hell do self custody stablecoins work? If I swap XMR to a stablecoin, what network is best (lowest fees)? I've heard that you also need a little bit of the actual network token to send your stablecoin to pay for fee's.. Why don't they just subtract from the stablecoin instead of needing an additional coin to extract fees from? Is there a stablecoin that will just extract the fee from itself? Also once you send the stablecoin, is it all anonymouse or is your IP logged?

[Anonymous No.58852865]

When you sync your nodes, how many blocks per second do you get when catching up with the last few days? I get around 5 blocks per second with my gaming PC I bought last year. Is that slow? What could be the bottleneck? I have an M.2 SSD, recent AMD processor (20kH/s) and >100Mbit/s download speed.

[Anonymous No.58853281]

>>58851116

I trust you, bro.

[Anonymous No.58853439]

>>58853281
So what's your probable outcome? Bitcoin goes to zero in two more weeks and Larry gets fucked?

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.58853467]

>https://monerochan.art
higher res, nsfw variants, and PSD file available

[Anonymous No.58853563]

>>58853467

[Anonymous No.58853899]

>>58853563
based

[Anonymous No.58853988]

You guys bullish on serai dex?

[Anonymous No.58854203]

>>58852804
Just look what is the cheapest network on trocador?
You can use an anonymous self custody wallet no problem but if you want to use those funds you can't di that anonymously on a centralized exchange
>>58853988
I'm stoked that it's going to be a real thing but nonkyc monero with high liquidity will put some law enforcement departments on edge so not sure about bullish

[Anonymous No.58854245]

>>58853988
Isn't it just a crypto-crypto exchange?

[Anonymous No.58854346]

Is monero.land any good guys? Once my 4chan pass expires I doubt I'll bother solve any captchas. And 4chan uses coinbase which is useless and doesn't accept crypto payments unless you use the wallets they want you to use.

Unless it is possible to get someone else to renew my pass by giving them the email and the token. But am I risking them being able to find or change the PIN later or selling my pass to someone else too or just fucking it up somehow?

[Anonymous No.58854577]

>>58854245
It's an automated market maker with earning.

[Anonymous No.58854581]

>>58854577
Sounds like usury.

[Anonymous No.58854594]

>>58854346

Just swap xmr to ltc and pay with ltc for an 4chin account

[Anonymous No.58854597]

>>58854581
It's a market maker not a lender. You get paid a cut of TX fees in LP tokens.

[Anonymous No.58854717]

Is there any difference between making a new account in the same wallet vs making a new wallet and using its default account?

[Anonymous No.58854734]

>>58854597
In any case, haveno is all I need.

[Anonymous No.58854818]

>>58854594
Currency is not the problem. The problem is that coinbase wants me to install specific wallets to be able to pay. And I don't want to install any of these wallets.

[Anonymous No.58854832]

>>58854581
Usury is fine. It works as a perfect incentive to attract more competitors to lower the interest rate if it's unjustifiably high, or, if that doesn't happen, and there isn't someone stopping competition by force, then it is not actually usury and the interest rate you see is justifiable given the conditions (risk etc).

Unless by usury you mean any kind of interest rate other than 0%, in which case you need to explain why people should lend money to you without interest without resorting to some variation of "They should care enough about me to lend me interest-free."

[Anonymous No.58855879]

Do you have any recommended sites for buying prepaid debit cards with Monero?

[Anonymous No.58856136]

>>58851462
let me guess, your "19k hashes/s" rig is based on an intelaviv space heater?

[Anonymous No.58856314]

>>58846000
I'm converting it to XMR little by little.

[Anonymous No.58857191]

send me some xmr plox:

8BicjA3CR3tUpadXVnDmzKJyzfdjBGCJLRJnBAQM8x2b4Zxp5nFXZ1D6Fz5Q7j3umH4Agq23MrxyMYM8HvQLQCfDNWZJbrV

i dont want to sell my boipucci

[Anonymous No.58857336]

I tied advertising Moneros importance for dissidents in National Vanguard website where there was article promoting Bitcoin. My comment didn't get released and after that the comments get turned off for "non member" persons, you can read it in the comment section.

https://nationalvanguard.org/2024/07/the-second-coming-of-trumpery-part-3/

[Anonymous No.58857733]

Isolate your feather wallet in an offline VM:

https://karapara.kyun.li/wiki/feather-wallet/feather_wallet_isolated_qubes_whonix_setup_en/

[Anonymous No.58857753]

It's truly over this time: having noticed it's growing profile, firebrand anti-crypto activist AmericanScream is now going after Monero after spending a couple of years blackpilling the masses on BTC.

https://monero.town/post/3962553/5470725

Somebody alert the darknet, they really need to know this.

[Anonymous No.58857818]

>>58857753
>AmericanScream
Literally who

[Anonymous No.58857828]

>>58857336
Yeah I'm amazed how many "right wing libertarian" commentators can't say the word. It's a litmus test for sincerity.

[Anonymous No.58857873]

Even binance is delisting it now, fuuuuck.

[Anonymous No.58858066]

>>58857873
>Even binance is delisting it now
>Now
Are you retarded?

[Anonymous No.58858219]

[Anonymous No.58858253]

>>58857828
Please list some names. I'm a right wing libertarian. Not a commentator though.

>>58857753
>AmericanScream
Is that someone important? His comment reads like a high school essay.

[Anonymous No.58858315]

>>58858253
>Is that someone important? His comment reads like a high school essay.

He's easily the most vocal anti-crypto crusader currently out there, has a real bug up his ass about it. Moderates r/buttcoin and r/cryptoreality, also runs IO Radio on YT.

https://www.youtube.com/@AmericanScreamVideo

He's been ragging on BTC for years but now that Monero-chan is moving on up seems he's refocusing his attention on her now. You'll often find him trying to downplay Monero's successes on Buttcoin, which actually has a generally positive opinion on XMR as the "only real cryptocurrency", we win bonus points for being openly hostile to moonfaggotry.

Basically, he's triggered by people taking Monero seriously, he's going to try to draw an equivalency with BTC and claim its just as much of a useless shitcoin that's only good for black market activity.

[Anonymous No.58858566]

>>58857753
tl;dr

[Anonymous No.58859406]

[Anonymous No.58859451]

Help me get to number 1 and I promise I will dedicate myself to spread the word, this is just the beginning


89bYAkFT7Nqa29qxSNrUvrDa8M5idpo9MRG11xLjpwh9RpqXzDnLMCoAo9FReH3Xb9NCDgBaRvbZYRVdiiSjEXN8Ui3aWMx

[Anonymous No.58859812]

>>58859451
Start a Kuno if you actually have a plan for spreading the word.

[Anonymous No.58860617]

>>58857191
pics of boipucci first
Also your landlord won't take xmr

[Anonymous No.58860883]

>>58846273
Cash by mail isn't going to work >>>/pol/478158747 and face to face is asking to get stabbed

[Anonymous No.58860901]

>>58860883
Wow, that's crazy. Use gold/silver coins instead of cash, I guess.

[Anonymous No.58861007]

>>58860883
>Cash by mail isn't going to work

lol this is as retarded as saying "drugs by mail isn't going to work". It works in the vast majority of cases due to the the insane volume of mail going through the postal system vs finite monitoring resources, its basic safety in numbers.

>face to face is asking to get stabbed

Buying $50 XMR paper wallets from street dealers is no different than buying $50 worth of crack from street dealers.

[Anonymous No.58861028]

>>58861007
>no different than buying $50 worth of crack from street dealers
So stupid, a waste of life, and asking to get stabbed

[Anonymous No.58861037]

>>58861007
>Buying $50 XMR paper wallets from street dealers is no different than buying $50 worth of crack from street dealers.
Makes it sound kinda based.

[Anonymous No.58861042]

>>58861028
>So stupid, a waste of life, and asking to get stabbed

Yes, murdering your customers is how you get more repeat business.

[Anonymous No.58861121]

>>58861037

Well, as more and more drug dealing moves online, it makes sense for offline dealers to start selling pre-loaded XMR wallets to make up for that loss of business.

So, selling a $50 XMR wallet for, say, $60 = a $10 profit, the customer pays this premium or "convenience tax" to avoid having to jump through any additional hoops, its instant acquisition with zero KYC. They can then go home, sweep the paper wallet into their DNM wallet and start shopping.

I expect this would be the route less tech-savvy or just plain lazy normies would take rather than trying to figure out how use DEX networks. Either way, it all works out to a consistent increase in demand for XMR.

[Anonymous No.58861313]

>>58861042
The most common cause of death among crack smokers is homicide, followed by AIDS, plus overdosing is a bigger problem now with fentanyl. So yes, drug dealers do murder their customers you absolute shitbrained retard.

[Anonymous No.58861342]

>>58861313
I bet those drug dealers are not white.

[Anonymous No.58861348]

>>58858253
Tom Luongo for sure has a bad faith position on crypto. He's too savvy not to know better. But like, go down your podcast / news feed list and look at how people take donations. Nigga change his name to 'Agorist' and takes DASH but not XMR. That checks out. It's just hard to know whether they don't have any sense or they're actual bad actors.

[Anonymous No.58861369]

>>58861342
In 2023 of the 19066 drug trafficking cases reported to the United States Sentencing Commission 43.5% were Hispanic, 27.6% were Black and 25.8% were White, despite blacks and hispanics making up 14.4% and 19.5% of the general population.

Drugs are stupid. Doing them ruins your health and puts you in proximity to niggers which also ruins your health.

[Anonymous No.58861461]

>>58861313
>drug dealers do murder their customers

wait, what happened to getting stabbed?

[Anonymous No.58861494]

>>58861348
>Nigga change his name to 'Agorist' and takes DASH but not XMR

"Agorists" that refuse to accept XMR glow brighter than the sun.

[Anonymous No.58861570]

>>58861461
Do you sell drugs?

[Anonymous No.58861673]

>>58861570

Yes, but only with a prescription.

[Anonymous No.58861740]

>>58861673
Nah you definitely deal, online at least

[Anonymous No.58861801]

>>58861740

Uh-oh.....

[Anonymous No.58862042]

Fried my harddrive and lost my wallet today

Like an idiot, I kept the keys saved in a text file on the same computer

[Anonymous No.58862201]

>monero
learn esperanto when anon?

[Anonymous No.58862265]

MUH FUNGIBILITY

[Anonymous No.58862455]

>>58862201
the Internet made English the universal language

[Anonymous No.58862513]

hi smart /biz/ anons
I've been told that bitcoin people buy more bitcoin to hold more bitcoin
not my place to judge their money allocation habits, cool
one day bitcoin people will want to spend their bitcoin on something, maybe to buy fiat, maybe to buy things directly, fine
but since bitcoin transactions can be analyzed and you can guess who was the sender, and how much of bitcoin the sender has, are they not worried that their wealth could be known to anyone they buy things from? or do bitcoin people buy more bitcoin and send it to new wallets every time to make the total balance less obvious to bystander or one time seller?
I just don't get it, monero promises to prevent that even if user has just one wallet, IRL banks don't make it immediately visible to anybody how wealthy you are, do bitcoin people not worry about that? it sounds like an essential thing for, well, thing that could be used as money

[Anonymous No.58862529]

>>58862513
You swap it or digital bank centralised funtoken. Then they allocate you some funtokens to spend on approved products. The funtoken blockchain will be private so you don't have to worry about any of that silly stuff that's hurting your brain. Make sense?

[Anonymous No.58863578]

>>58862201
La lingvo estas ne necesa, sinjoro. Mi ecx ne scias la anlga. Krisxno benu vin!

[amWOW No.58864129]

Join #wownero at OFTC now.

[Anonymous No.58864396]

>>58864129
I fell for the cake wallet meme.

[Anonymous No.58865724]

[Anonymous No.58866465]

[Anonymous No.58866499]

just started using mullvad now that my old vpn finally expired. 5$ a month is a steal. you can even post on 4chan without getting hit with a vpn block

[Anonymous No.58867220]

>>58827383
So uh, let's say I moved some Bitcoin from a private wallet to Cake and swapped that into XMR, and let's say I then moved that XMR into a Monerujo wallet, then moved again into a feather wallet....and purchased something questionable somewhere. Let's say that I ended up having some leftover XMR and want to get that back into BTC for long term storage.
Would it be safe to send it back to Monerujo and then Cake and then exchange back to BTC and send back to my original wallet? Would there be any connection to the questionable purchase on the feather wallet after that many XMR jumps?
We're talking like a couple hundred dollars here, not thousands. But I live in a country with REALLY strict laws.

[amWOW No.58867406]

i love wownerochan

[Anonymous No.58867694]

>>58866499
Buy an ad Sven.

[Anonymous No.58867781]

I am in dire need of a monerochan or monero version of this [country name] mentioned meme

[Anonymous No.58868017]

>>58867220
The wallet hopping is unnecessary. You can just send from where the xmr is now to a swap site or use the cakewallet swap. It may have changed but cakewallet was using changenow.io for awhile. I personally tell everyone to use Trocador.app to see the best swap rates and it has a $1k insurance in case the swap fails or they hit you with shotgun kyc attempt

[Anonymous No.58868062]

>>58867781

[Anonymous No.58868377]

>>58868062
ugly but I'll take it.
whats that monerochan comissions guys website?

[Anonymous No.58868778]

Art of Monero-chan I found. Hopefully there's not an RCE or something hidden in it.

[Anonymous No.58869170]

>>58844779
No MRL meeting on the 15th it seems.

[Anonymous No.58869638]

>>58868377
checked
monerochan.art

[Anonymous No.58869907]

>>58868017
Thank you. I've heard good things about Trocador so I'll check them out.

[Anonymous No.58870138]

>>58868062
missing an x on the coke logo

[Anonymous No.58870145]

>>58857753
>monero will never succeed
monero is the only cryptocurrency that's actually used

[Anonymous No.58870372]

>>58869638
really cool website. where do I pitch my idea? I want a clean version of that. many use cases™
Store is also cool but
>phone cases
>iphone shit
>samsung galaxy?
>no google pixel
what's up with that?

[Anonymous No.58871244]

After a long drought I had TWO (2) customers in a single day!

[Anonymous No.58871333]

>>58871244

Checked, based and agorist-pilled.

[Anonymous No.58871344]

>>58871333
Giga checked.
Now I have a good reason to finally try out haveno.

[Anonymous No.58871840]

This Is What Maxitards Actually Believe

[Anonymous No.58871878]

>>58871840
My fucking god, their retardation never ceases to amaze me.

[Anonymous No.58871903]

In these trying times only Monero really keeps me hopeful. Should I enter and buy now or might it just go down soon? I can probably trade around for a month or two and even get more money.

[Anonymous No.58871960]

>>58871840
Monero doesn't encrypt the sender, recipient, or full amount though...

[Anonymous No.58871964]

>>58871960
>Monero doesn't encrypt the sender, recipient, or full amount though...
Yes

[Anonymous No.58871973]

>>58871964
Ring signatures aren't encryption, neither is dandelion, or stealth addresses strictly speaking and the fee is unencrypted also. Switch to zk squarts already

[Anonymous No.58871992]

>>58871973
lol your obvious trolling strategy isn't going to work here, numbnuts.

The darknet privacy gods assembled on Dread have spoken and its game over for BTC/LN/L2.

SHITCOIN NOT NEEDED

[Anonymous No.58872032]

>>58871973
Granting the statement has technical validity, why make the graphic? Is it trying to educate people about the differences between Monero and lightning, or perhaps make the point that 'encrypts' doesn't mean what the general public would interpret it to mean? No, I don't think so.
For those with full technical understanding the graphic is all but meaningless, and the general public will walk away with a false understanding. This is the opposite of educational, it is propaganda designed to make people understand less than they did before seeing it. The intention is not to inform people, it is to mislead them.
tldr socially inept propagandists can GTFO. You are not helping people understand privacy tools, you are just being a shill.

[Anonymous No.58872033]

>>58871992
He's the Tetherfag from a few days ago.

[Anonymous No.58872050]

>>58872032

Like goddamn clockwork.

[Anonymous No.58872148]

Unless I missed something Bisq has no option to trade Monero for dollars and vice versa. What gives?

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.58872241]

>>58870372
>where do I pitch my idea?
You can pitch ideas here in the general, or in the matrix room (#xmr_art:matrix.org).

>Store is also cool but...
Yeah phone cases weren't exactly top of mind when I made that shop. Main focus is apparel, stickers, wall art, and magnets. Sorry the case selection is lacking but it's not something I have control over.

[Anonymous No.58872259]

>BTC in 2009: "Separation of Money and State"
>BTC in 2024:

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.58872319]

>>58867781
Commission is in progress. The cost is 8,000 JPY (~$54). Please donate to the art fund if you can, but either way this will be getting made because I like the idea.

[Anonymous No.58872448]

>>58872319
No one likes the US gov

[N3K0 !!hgJrs4Ye5Zq No.58872517]

I wonder whats new here since i last talked in 2 years ago. XMR is $148.49 and im still archiveing https://monerochan.art/ and iirc i think the monero mega folder is still up with almost every image from 2022? (or 2019 idk) eh whatever. (Still hoarding a few xmr in my wallet.) anyways hi anons

0SRX

[Anonymous No.58872705]

[Anonymous No.58873590]

does anybody ACTUALLY understand how monero works

[Anonymous No.58873624]

>tfw got 3 monero blocks in 90 days
>tfw they were on p2pool
Anons...

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.58874291]

>>58867781
>>58872319
Well something either got lost in translation, or the artist didn't want to use the reference pic, because it's not exactly the right pose - but it still came out pretty cute.

[Anonymous No.58874549]

>>58867781
>>58874291
dang need a less ambitious artist to make it right.
ty tho. it's a nice monerochan regardless

[Anonymous No.58874600]

I stopped getting emails for new sales on moneromarket. I still get mails for new messages though. Someone needs to fix this.

[Anonymous No.58875420]

[Anonymous No.58876712]

>>58873590
i do

[Anonymous No.58876740]

>>58873590
not that mysterious
https://cryptorum.com/resources/monero-is-not-that-mysterious.24/

[Anonymous No.58876775]

Is there a more legitimate form of money in the future? I can't think of anything more practical then monero when nation states are breaking apart in real time and banks aren't secure at all. Russia won't exist as a unified state, ukraine will probably balkanize. UK will be isolationist. America and canada will balkanize. China and india are due to break into smaller states. I don't see any alternative to peer to peer electronic cash given the automobile industry will die before the internet dies off. Who is going to use JPMorgan chase in the future? Tether will be worthless, eth will die. The federal reserve will eventually be an abandoned building.

[Anonymous No.58876862]

>>58876775
>I am unhappy with my life so wish the world matched how I feel inside

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.58877534]

>https://www.monerochan.art/

[Anonymous No.58877877]

>>58877534
Finger trouble? Is it AI?

[Anonymous No.58878384]

[None !fxjPc9dvjM No.58878437]

>>58877877
>Is it AI?
No

[Anonymous No.58878625]

[Anonymous No.58879196]

>Donald Trump is pro-crypto and wants a "strategic reserve" of bitcoin
>is also funded by Peter Thiel who installed his vice president pick, JD Vance
>Peter Thiel founded Palantir, a data analytics company that contracts with US intelligence agencies and is set to be in charge of creating the first ever government-approved "digital ID" for Americans
Bullish or bearish for monero? On the one hand if Trump gets in, Coinbase and Chainalysis are basically going to run the show and double down on bitcoin background checks, AML-compliant mining, regulating self custody wallets, etc., which will cause monero's use case to skyrocket. On the other hand, if Kamala gets in then I think crypto will basically be left alone but will give monero developers enough time to integrate seraphis, launch more DEXes, and improve atomic swaps.

[Anonymous No.58880007]

Monerocels BTFO:

>Zcash has an actual, accountable development team, which is why they have made the best privacy tech, rather than Monero's "team" cobbling together janky old shit that probably has an inflation bug while the CCS gets hacked or grifted.
>Having a good team is also why they haven't been mass delisted, since they can work with regulators, something normal people need if they are to have access to a currency.
>Similarly all the big name endorsements, Vitalik, Snowden, Winklevoss, Balaji are only a positive. You need a network effect for money to be useful to most people.
>And most people need a lot more flexibility than Monero gives, the option of public transactions, view keys that actually work.

>>58878864

[VEIL PROJECT No.58880108]

>>58873590
it’s a kind of magic, and you’ll need many years of dedication and study to even begin to understand it

[Anonymous No.58880617]

>>58827383
I lost a bunch of monero a year ago. How can I, as a disabled poorfag, get some?

[Anonymous No.58880633]

Why it doesn't go up?

[Anonymous No.58880933]

>>58880617
>How can I, as a disabled poorfag, get some?
Learn a useful skill (preferably IT-related) and then offer services in exchange for XMR.

[Anonymous No.58881041]

is this a XMR thread with over 200 comments?? I just bought 12.5 XMR last month. the main reason was that I think it has debased enough against bitcoin and because I discovered a very good telegram bot for dealers in telegram that use XMR, I was impressed with it

[Anonymous No.58881072]

>>58880633
you’re going to have to wait 10 years to see any kind of price action

[Anonymous No.58881073]

>>58880007
cool, why don’t you go back to your general? oh wait.. lel

[Anonymous No.58881593]

>>58881073

Why has Zcash been pumping though?

[Anonymous No.58881904]

>>58881593

Semi-annual wash trading extravaganza, you'll know its coming when the crypto rags start buzzing. Zcash even overtook Monero once, nobody cared and it predictably crashed back down to where it belongs.

Jeet-shilled zombie chain with poor prospects, its only technical advantage over Monero is expiring next year when ring signatures are deprecated. It ain't 2016 anymore, ZKPs are a dime a dozen now so there's nothing left to shill other than "muh compliance", which is exactly what you don't want in a privacy app.

[Anonymous No.58882143]

[Anonymous No.58882186]

oof... bisq just added lightning network. bros why did it need that when it already has xmr?? oh shit there was a few companies saying xmr is traceable?? damn wait bluewallet just implemented bip47 and bip352 for payment codes and silent payments wtf is going on. youre telling me now bitcoin can be both the company and govt choice since its default a public ledger, but can also just be used to buy drugs on both the 1st AND 2nd layer without having to convert to something else like xmr or zec??? man that sucks... what are we gonna do??? lol

[Anonymous No.58882297]

>>58882186
Yawn. >>58871992

[Anonymous No.58882328]

>>58882297
great argument
>as monero continues to displace bitcoin

[Anonymous No.58882343]

Friends, I wanna work for XMR bounties but I am worried that my work would taken without me getting paid. Is there anybody here that has been paid through bounty.monero.social? Please let me know your experience.

[Anonymous No.58882378]

>>58882186
just HODL harder you will save the world

[Anonymous No.58882479]

>>58882328
>comparing prices
your brain is non existent
see >>58882378

[Anonymous No.58882484]

>>58880007
>>58878984
not unlisted

[Anonymous No.58882645]

Anyone have any experience using bitpapa?

[Anonymous No.58882940]

>>58882645
Actually illegal for US citizens. OFAC sanctioned. Just use Haveno...

[Anonymous No.58883439]

>>58882378
lightning is more private than monero though. more development happens on bitcoin because it has more money

>>58882479
i only compared the prices there because one of the images that guy posted directly said what i quoted, how did you miss that

oh i know how. cause youre both esls

[Anonymous No.58883495]

>>58882328
>muh price action

Imagine being so predictable that its literally a meme.

[Anonymous No.58883502]

>>58883495
you guys are embarrassing yourselves...

[Anonymous No.58883568]

>>58882378
>just HODL harder you will save the world

haha, I love how wonderfully stupid these lambo chasers are. Keep holding, faggots, it only further cripples what's left of the BTC economy while concurrently growing the XMR economy.

[Anonymous No.58883617]

>>58883439
>lightning
guess which coin is used on dark web markets and try to guess why
brown coomer

[Anonymous No.58883625]

>>58883617
you didnt even follow the reply chain to the beginning... bisq just added lightning. why would they do that if they already have xmr? sure more payment options is always great but... its not looking too good for you, bro

[Anonymous No.58883634]

>>58883439
>lightning is more private than monero though

lol is that what all the lightning devs are saying these days? Or is it just you?

In related news, this laser-eyed faggot is almost certainly the bespectacled assburger who is so desperate for a BTC win that he's resorted to characterizing Bisq as a darknet market.

Meanwhile on Dread, the nerve center of the darknet, LN continues to be absolutely dead on arrival, literally zero interest in any of it. You'd think these morons would try posting this horseshit on there but no, its only in their safe spaces i.e. X, Nostr, Reddit, etc, where they won't have their clueless "arguments" ripped to shreds by people who actually know what they're talking about.

[Anonymous No.58883644]

>>58883634
safe space? if what someone posts about monero is accurate, why would someone be scared to post it? because theyre pussies?

[Anonymous No.58883652]

>>58883644

Obvious troll is obvious.

[Anonymous No.58883657]

>>58883652
it only takes one guy that knows how monero works to prove him wrong. theres nothing about x that woud prevent them from being right about the technical details of monero. this is only a troll to you because you dont know what else to say

[Anonymous No.58883687]

>>58883657
Natural selection, moron. Inferior/sub-optimal tech gets weeded out in highly adversarial environments such as the darknet market economy, which is exactly what happened to BTC.

So you can talk all the horseshit you want, the proof of the pudding as far as crypto privacy solutions are concerned is darknet criminal adoption. And as things currently stand: BTC is dying, LN is DOA, XMR is well on its way to establishing a monopoly.

[Anonymous No.58883710]

>>58883687
this is the monero thread. im here to learn why monero is better!. but not only will anyone that knows how monero works explain why on x, they wont explain why in the dedicated monero thread either. wonder why that is... perhaps, as i said before, things arent boding well

[Anonymous No.58883753]

>>58883710
>im here to learn why monero is better!.

We don't need to convince YOU or your fellow bagholders that Monero is better, we need to convince a specific community of cybersecurity professionals operating under highly adversarial conditions. And as seen, that has already been achieved.

So you can either insist that the market is wrong (lol) or acknowledge that the superior technology has come out on top.

[Anonymous No.58883775]

>>58883753
then what is the thread for? is /biz/ the specific community of cybersecurity professionals operating under highly adversarial conditions? look man, ill just wait for one of the MoneroChads to show up. supposedly, they answer questions about monero

[Anonymous No.58883806]

>>58883775
>then what is the thread for?

General Discussion, with HODLtarded moonfaggotry being strongly discouraged while actual economic utilization is highly encouraged

>is /biz/ the specific community of cybersecurity professionals operating under highly adversarial conditions?

No, that would be Dread, specifically the OpSec sub. How about you go bother them directly, educate em all about how awesome and superior LN is, see how well that works out for ya lol

>>look man, ill just wait for one of the MoneroChads to show up. supposedly, they answer questions about monero

Your questions have already been answered but you continue being obtuse and playing dumb.

But I'll try again: see picrel.

[Anonymous No.58883926]

>>58882328
>talks about displacement
>shows price comparison

Bitcuck moment.

[Anonymous No.58883943]

>>58883439
>lightning is more private than monero though
PLEASE, PLEASE make a darknet market that uses LN. We could use some comedy.

[Anonymous No.58884002]

>>58883625
>sure more payment options is always great
Yes.
>its not looking too good for you
Why? If an exchange that trades XMR adds another crypto that's somehow bad for XMR? I'm sure you'll be polluting LN threads once another currency is added after LN to Bisq, telling them how it looks bad for LN.

>more development happens on bitcoin because it has more money
Yeah like Segwit. A tech-debt ridden hack that diminished the incentive to actually check the validity of signatures before including txs in a block. And refusing to increase their block size when adoption rate was peaking which destroyed commercial adoption for YEARS and let Cuckstream turn a profit selling their crap, and forced LN down people's throats despite the glaring security risks and problems that come with it. Thanks I'd rather not have that kind of development. It's driven by money given by players who gain from BTC becoming a bank settlement layer.

[Anonymous No.58884038]

>>58883710
>im here to learn why monero is better!
Dude there are no IQ<80 moonbois here, nobody believes the quoted sentence and you and I both know it.

[Anonymous No.58884175]

Why are people on DNMs so aversive of KYC exchanges if Monero's inherent features makes it impossible to link back to them as soon as it leaves the platform?

[Anonymous No.58884354]

>>58884175
>Why are people on DNMs so aversive of KYC exchanges if Monero's inherent features makes it impossible to link back to them as soon as it leaves the platform?

Because the best OPSEC is nobody knowing you bought XMR in the first place.

[Anonymous No.58884358]

>>58884175
Because KYC subjects you to arbitrary AML bullshit, and governments are starting to figure out they need to demand view keys from people who have Monero in self custody.

Like, if you accept the principle that government is allowed to inspect your spending, take your money, or freeze your account any time it wants, Monero serves no purpose.

[Anonymous No.58884654]

IT'S HAPPENING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Z-cucks on suicide watch.

[Anonymous No.58884697]

>>58884654
We truly can't stop winning.

[Anonymous No.58884771]

>>58884654
Holy shit this is big. I didn't realize they were that close to a working implementation.

[Anonymous No.58884853]

>>58884654
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>z gash CEO in panic mode
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.58884958]

>>58884697
>We truly can't stop winning.

Starting to get tired of it!

>>58884771
>I didn't realize they were that close to a working implementation.

The main work was largely finished last year, what was left was picking a suitable elliptic curve and now doing the necessary audits. Quite likely that by this time next year ring signatures will be history.

FCMP basically neutralizes the remaining threats outlined in the Breaking Monero series so the privacy-related FUD Z-fags and others desperately cling to will soon become moot, Zcash, PirateChain & Co. are going to be left with zero advantages over Monero, which has already firmly established itself as the default option for anonymized p2p payments in the minds of cybersecurity gurus.

That just leaves the delusional Bitfags who STILL think LN is going to make Monero obsolete, they'll be getting punched in the face by reality soon as well, hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.58885885]

[Anonymous No.58886499]

monerochan supremacy

[Anonymous No.58886958]

[Anonymous No.58887118]

>>58886958

[Anonymous No.58888723]

[Anonymous No.58889646]

>>58869170
MRL meeting on the 21st of August:

>Upcoming stress testing of 'monerod' with dynamic block sync size implementation.

>Progress on Full-Chain Membership Proofs (FCMPs) research and development.

>Discussion on quantifying security and potential need for larger elliptic curves.

>Updates on Generalized Bulletproofs (GBPs) review and readiness for auditing.

>Ongoing work on divisor technique and its application in prime fields.

>Consideration of extending Veridise's contract for additional research work.

>Debate on the merits of different transaction relay protocols and their impact on privacy.

>Analysis of how network topology knowledge affects transaction anonymity.

>Exploration of potential improvements to Dandelion++ protocol.

>Discussion on the Clover protocol as an alternative to Dandelion++.

[Anonymous No.58890191]

[Anonymous No.58890211]

Full-Chain Monerochan Proofs confirmed for integration.

[Anonymous No.58890602]

>3 years and Monerofags are still at it
It's exactly like the XRP schizo threads. Glad I never listened to the monero-chan memes.

[Anonymous No.58890613]

Question,how do I use monero the safest and non kyc way ,explain to me like I'm retarded

[Anonymous No.58890685]

>>58890602
>3 years
summerfag

[Anonymous No.58890725]

My business on moneromarket is booming.
wagmi moneromarket bros

[Anonymous No.58890748]

>>58889646

[Anonymous No.58891160]

>>58827383
What is the best way to buy monero now that glowies have shut down localmonero?

[Anonymous No.58891161]

>>58884654
Can you explain what this means like im tech illiterate?

[Anonymous No.58891167]

>>58884354
This. Buying monero is a massive red flag to glowies.

[Anonymous No.58891173]

>>58883568
For me its XMR and Silver.

[Anonymous No.58891175]

>>58878437
Neat anon

[Anonymous No.58891196]

>>58891173
The patrician's choice.

[Anonymous No.58891200]

>>58891160
https://haveno.exchange/
For me it's cash by mail.

[Anonymous No.58891223]

>>58891200
That sounds like me desu. I wont be buying huge amounts but im comfortable sending a few hundred at a time.

[Anonymous No.58891325]

>>58891200
>>58891223
https://haveno-reto.com if you actually want to use it on mainnet.

linking to haveno.exchange often leads to people thinking it hasn't launched yet / downloading the reference code and wondering why they cant see any offers. at least post the links together.

[Anonymous No.58891350]

>>58891325
Oops, you're right. I haven't used haveno yet so I'm not entirely up to speed. It was on localmonero that I used cash by mail.

[Anonymous No.58891634]

>>58891325
Will Haveno ever be something like OpenBazaar? If it can do cash-by-mail then can't it also do any kind of item orders?

[Anonymous No.58892005]

>>58890725
>My business on moneromarket is booming.

This is what its all about.

[Anonymous No.58892083]

>>58891161
>Can you explain what this means like im tech illiterate?

Ring signatures are going bye-bye and with them all the remaining theoretical vulnerabilities outlined in the Breaking Monero series.

In short, Monero is about to make all them other "muh ZKP" competitors redundant. Team Zcash in particular will now be forced to fixate on some other Monero "flaw" to attract users, my guess is they will start to make a big deal of how cucked, er, compliant they are and insist that optional privacy is actually better than enforced privacy, that's all they can offer now hahahahaha

[Anonymous No.58892500]

>>58891634
technically? probably possible. there have been decentralized marketplaces before but it would quickly turn it into a very bad place and I'm not talking about weed.

[Anonymous No.58892831]

>>58857753
>"Monero will never suceed."
>Proceeds to explain the bullish case of monero in just 11 words after that

[Anonymous No.58892931]

>>58891325
I didnt know about that reto site. Thanks. I did know the main domain with listings is an onion domain however.

[Anonymous No.58893425]

>>58858219
meds

[Anonymous No.58893536]

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