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Why would any employer ever hire someone with a business degree? If you have a business degree then you are either a chronic underachiever or a complete idiot, and regardless you squandered your opportunity to get a college degree on something as simplistic as a business degree. Someone with only a high school diploma who shows a decent resume and interviews well would make a better hire than you, because there is a chance that the only reason for their failure to get a degree is mere circumstance rather than the decision to get a business degree.

And no, your area of specialization is just as meaningless as the degree itself. Whether it's marketing, supply chain management, or information systems your "education" is nothing more than some applied critical thinking and watered down economics doused heavily with jargon to shelter you from criticism by the uninitiated.

>Sauce: I went to a top ten business school and got paid to do senior level homework for the business students while pursuing an unrelated degree, I know how low the bar actually is for you people

>> No.586331

People with social skills are needed to manage you angsty smarty pants, It doesn't actually matter what you know, it how I can get you to shut the fuck up and work

>> No.586340

>>586331

>business degree
>developing social skills

Riiiiiiight.

>> No.586343

Have you looked at the graduation stats recently?

No one is hiring business majors. Business and all of its variants have some of the highest post graduate unemployment rates. It even rivals the art majors in unemployment.

Back in the 90's, it wasn't uncommon at all to see Office Space levels of work, where one guy was working and he had two or three business managers over him. These business majors didn't know jack shit about what they were managing and they couldn't do any work. All they had were Mr. Goldbergsteinfein's theories, which didn't usually work

Virtually every business has gotten away from that now. They now hire programmers to manage other programmers, accountants to manage other accounts, etc, etc, and then they bring in a few very experienced and intelligent people to actually manage the business.

Yes, there are still some people who are making big money off it and there will be people making big money off it in the future, but that is irrelevant. You can find women's studies majories who are making six figures too.The majority who major in it are worthless in the market.

>> No.586344

>>586331

News flash: anybody can learn social skills, and anybody can network. A useless degree is just dead weight.

>> No.586369

It's fucking brilliant really.

They sell a degree that sounds incredibly useful practical to people who don't belong in college. Then when they can't find a job, they feel like they have no one to blame but themselves.

I've got a friend in grad school making a killing (up to $200/hr) tutoring these tards in calculus, stats and basic microeconomics. He's studying EE.

>> No.586374

I've been a HR Manager (shitty I know) for 12 years at a Fortune 100 company. 90% of employers don't care what you majored in, just as long as you went to Uni. They look at experience. If you're applying for an entry level position, then we can really care less if you majored in Business Management or Accountant. You take virtually the same coursework to prove common competence.

If you think your choice of Undergrad degree is very important in life, you are the complete idiot. All an Undergrad does is get you an entry level job. Once you have experience, nobody even looks at your education, unless it's a Graduate degree.

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586375

>>586326

>tfw I just got a job at a hedge fund with a business management degree ahahaha

>> No.586379

>>586326
so edgy. wow OP. riveting.

is this actually not common knowledge.

stem major here.

econ in a nutshell
>y=mx+b or finding the slope

>> No.586382

>>586369
yeah ok. $200 an hr. GTFO

>> No.586384

>>586374
try and apply to an engineering job without a bs in that specific engineering field and see what happens

>> No.586385

>>586344
>anyone can learn social skills

might I offer the counterargument of r9k

>> No.586386

>>586382
No, you underestimate these tards. They actually pool their money together and pay for group sessions of 6-8 because they think that's more efficient than one on one.

>> No.586388

>>586384

Depends on experience. Again, if you're entry level, then of course you'd need an engineering degree to assume you can fulfill the job duties. However, we still have 10-20 year experienced Engineers who never even went to college.

>> No.586394

>>586379
>implying the STEM bubble isnt already popping

>> No.586395

>>586386
>pay for group sessions
yeah dude, its called classes

>> No.586402

>>586343
Sure people are hiring. Unemployment for business majors is average compared to other majors.

https://www.cgsnet.org/ckfinder/userfiles/files/Unemployment_Final_update1.pdf

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586405

>>586395

>> No.586408

>>586394
yeah whatever helps you sleep at night
>im smarter than you

>> No.586417

>>586395
Lel

>> No.586431

>>586326
You understand the capabilities of those who haven't been to college yet, or even graduated high school...

I want to be a business major, and I don't want to leave my town without putting money into property here or I may very well never come back...

Too often is it that money is taken for granted as some almighty thing... I mean it can get you anything, get anything done, but in the end of the day it's just currency, currency being mangled by some suits over the estimated values of commercial America...

Would you help a brother out?

>> No.586576

>>586385
Autistic /r9k/ browser here. Can confirm that I cannot learn social skills.

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586582

>>586576

>> No.586596

>>586402
thank god i decided not to go into architecture

>> No.586600

What exactly even counts as a business major? Is there actually a degree called business? Or all we talking about stuff like finance, accounting, economics?

>> No.586602

finance from a good school => investment banking/private equity/hedge funds

accounting from most schools => big 4, CPA, controller, CFO

however, all other business routes are useless

>> No.586667

>>586326

Everyone is aware that most undergraduate degrees are just signaling factors that show you aren't retarded. Sure there's a handful of degrees that contribute to your human capital (Engineering, some of the other STEM, Accounting), but otherwise it mainly shows you aren't stupid.

If you want to rip on degrees for not being rigorous or adding value, look no further than education degrees. Teach for America fags come from completely unrelated backgrounds, get six weeks of training, and suddenly outperform the majority of educators in America.

>> No.586806

Okay so lets say I just entered a business management major, how fucked am I?

What if I ace this class and then do a post graduate degree and an honours degree?

Do I look employable yet?

>> No.586844

>>586667
Seriously.

I graduated in English and joined a teaching programme focusing on underprivileged areas. I got trained up crazy fast, hold a decent position and after two years they are prepared to pay for my Masters should I ever want to change career.

Even the traditional PGCE is heavily subsidised.

Law and Education are very dull degrees where their applicable careers are able to be filled by any graduate attending a short postgrad course. Indeed, Humanities students do that in large quantities.

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586851

>>586844
>underprivileged

>> No.586853

>>586386

So, essentially, your friend is being paid a standard rate for postgrad university tutors. Congratu-fucking-lations.

On topic, a degree is a degree is a degree. Undergraduate degrees don't mean shit outside of the fact that they indicate that you aren't a complete moron and can actually apply yourself to a given task long enough to finish it.

>> No.586854

Just graduated with 2 degrees, commerce (economics major) and law (honours). how fucked am I?

>> No.586859

>>586851
East London schools are atrocious and a significant amount of their students can't do basic bath or are technically illiterate when they leave.

>> No.586872

>>586854
economics + law.. hah!
have fun making more than i ever will anon. you lucky bastard

>> No.586885

>>586859

I always suspected many euros having poor hygiene anyway

>> No.586890

>>586885
>euros
This is East London we're talking about.

>> No.586902

>>586890
This is my kek, there are many others like it but this one is mine

>> No.586915

>>586602
Thank you Jesus!

>> No.586919

>>586326
My degree is in finance.

You can't work at an investment bank, asset management firm, real estate investment firm, etc. without a degree in finance

>> No.586990

>>586919
>You can't work at an investment bank, asset management firm, real estate investment firm, etc. without a degree in finance
nice one

>> No.587004

The fuck is a "business degree"? There are business schools, but no one graduates with a "business degree".

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587007

>>587004
Business Studies is a subject.

>wanted to join the business school
>added economics to my english major
>bricking it

>> No.587014

>>587007
Really? At my school these are the degrees you can get from the business college:
Accounting
Economics
Finance
General Business
Information Systems & Decision Sciences
International Trade & Finance
Management
Marketing

So is OP talking about all of them or just the general business?

>> No.587022

>>587014
In the UK, most schools have 'Business Studies' as an option, or just 'Business'. It's equivalent in your list would be General Business, yeah. It's a popular subject over here.

>> No.587028

lol

I'm doing a tourism degree, top in europe

>get top connections with big companies
>do post-grad degree in econ or related subject
>fuck shit up

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587037

>>586919
>You can't work at an investment bank, asset management firm, real estate investment firm, etc. without a degree in finance
heh

>> No.587045

>>586602
Can confirm that is the finance way, except I'm swinging to a CFO position in a year or two.

>> No.587122

>>586374
> I'm an HR manager so I know everything about every job requirement in every career.

Kill yourself. When people look to hire experts for actually important jobs, they don't trust know-it-all HR managers to do the work.

> Engineers without college degrees...

No.

>> No.587143

>>586919
Complete bullshit. You can have a degree in virtually anything and get a gig at an investment bank.