A 'golden bull run' will never happen with all the money tied in the bond market.

[Anonymous No.58565518]

With bonds offering attractive yields the money flow towards risky assets can never get to the crazy levels we saw last bull run, and so, the 'golden bull run' can never happen.

[Anonymous No.58565833]

>>58565518
He's literally me.

[Anonymous No.58566926]

>>58565518
>actually a good thread on /biz/
>1 reply
this board has gone to shit

I'm afriad you're right OP, for the past few days I've been thinking how are we supposed to get a massive irrational bullrun again when normies are either broke or completely jaded by crypto. It's obvious to me that normies aren't coming back until we're in a flaming bullrun and we have to get there somehow first

I think the btc and eth etfs inflows will be too slow and too little to spill into altcoins so until this stubborn bastard Jerome lowers rates I don't expect anything good coming our ways altho there are people with different opinions like picrel, unless he's talking about fed pivoting too

[Anonymous No.58566989]

>>58566926
Thx anon.
Some catalyst is needed. The money is still there.
It could be that brics start to dump usd debt and make the dollar tank making people start running away from bonds. I hear they are building up their own reserve currency partially gold backed.

[Anonymous No.58567938]

>>58565518
Every boomer I know is ecstatic about putting their money into a CD right now/
Every zoomer I know has like $10 to their name

Everybody else I know blows all their money on sports betting.

Bull run three years away unless Trump gets elected

[Anonymous No.58567958]

>>58565518
bond yields are shadow-inflating the money supply at an accelerating rate. the longer all that money marinates in bonds, the bigger the tidal wave when they pull out

[Anonymous No.58568238]

Line will go up as monetary expansion is guaranteed by high rates. Bonds are always negative real yield under debt based fiat, total bond yield since '71 is LESS than monetary expansion, even gold (2% annual mining inflation) has kept pace with money stock.

[Anonymous No.58568240]

>>58566926
Retail don't have any money or enough money to bother buying Bitcoin but they have enough money to bother buying memecoins.

[Anonymous No.58568313]

>>58565518
Stocks and ETFs did always have comparatively high yield and are considered significantly less risky than crypto, yet the last few bullruns happened.

[Anonymous No.58568444]

okay I'm a clueless zoomer retard, never invested in crypto or stocks. Lets say I had a few grand in savings, would now be a good time to invest in BTC?

[Anonymous No.58568474]

>>58568444
I would say that most main alts are guaranteed to do a 2x somewhere in the next 5 years, and btc will go to +50%

[Anonymous No.58568504]

>>58568444
ask yourself if you are willing to hold before selling for a loss if BTC bottoms in the next months before it goes up again. if you're comfortable enough to loose that money, I would spend an arbitrary amount on BTC and maybe some ETH. if loosing that money would cause financial ruin, put the greatest part of it in a MSCI World ETF and DCA any additional money into it. all other options are gambling but might work as well if that's what you're going for

[Anonymous No.58568514]

It's all very simple really

[Anonymous No.58568530]

>>58568444

Alright zoom zoom, I'll give you a quick rundown. Bitcoin will at most do a 2x from here, so not the best thing to buy in this market, but you can still make some money. It is also the safest out of all the cryptocurrencies. If you want a 5x consider higher cap altcoins like Cardano and Solana. If you're looking in the 10x range slightly riskier (but safe-ish) bets are stuff like loopring and aerodrome. The lower the market cap of a coin, the higher potential for growth, but also the higher risk. Really depends on your risk tolerance. Good luck out there, zoom zoom.

[Anonymous No.58568544]

>>58568514
Explain the countertrend pump for liquidity in 17, which was also a crypto golden bull

[Anonymous No.58568547]

>>58567938
this.

we're tapped out. Something going to give this year, they can't keep squeezing us.

The only hope is to get entire countries into crypto and use them to pump. Rugging all of SEA for instance. There is no money left in america, everyone is fucking broke and using what little they have on other degen activities.

[Anonymous No.58568760]

>>58568444
If it has a “use case”, don’t buy it.

[Anonymous No.58568927]

>>58565518
This is a very good and unfortunate point. Since I don’t want it to be true I’m going to ignore it and reality

[Anonymous No.58568942]

>>58566926
that was the whole point.
break the normies, make the broke.
then pump crypto and metals markets while they have no capital to allocate into them.
let housing crash bankrupting any that were beginning to get adventurous in real estate.

>>58567958
high iq

[Anonymous No.58569410]

>>58565518
the joke's on you, after so many years I got a good sum of money from here, and of course, it was with a couple of frogs and my Tuzki
but I did it

[Anonymous No.58569542]

>>58569410
will you stop shilling mongoloid coins all over the place?

[Anonymous No.58569570]

What does this chart mean?
liquidity goes up along with risk markets basically
so how this metric useful? more liquidity goes up as sp500 goes up and it does't seem to be an indicator that predicts anything

imo we'll get a recession once high rates hit the economy and something breaks, then they will be forced to lower rates, that's when the moonrocket will start but before that it will crash

[Anonymous No.58569650]

>>58569570
With bonds yields going up, keeping your cash in a monetary fund is not too bad, so is normal that the money is getting in there.
I wonder how long can they keep the back door QE and lying about inflation

[Anonymous No.58569674]

>>58569650
yeah but as someone sidelined seeing markets go up while you get like 3.9% at best here in EU this fucking sucks, and even in the US same shit because the SP500 went up a lot meanwhile you are sidelined

high rates will eventually wreck the economy, so sidelined money will be able to buy cheaper, but at what price?

if sp500 goes to 6000 and finally crashes to 4200 or so... you just wasted your time since you could have bought during the covid crash for cheaper and still be up

[Anonymous No.58569687]

>>58569674
Better to just be in the market then wait for a crash due to the scenario you said if you are on a mid to long time horizon.

[Anonymous No.58569728]

>>58569687
yeah but when you already sidelined, you risk that you baghold for years (pic related)

also i dont have an income so I have to be careful. i've got 400k in savings , 30% invested in MSTR, the rest is just money markets waiting for a crash but im going to keep getting sidelined it seems

i just dont want to not have liquiditiy if there is finaly a crash because i will feel like the dumbest market participant

[Anonymous No.58569742]

>>58569728
I am in kind of a similar situation. What i am doing is to diversify into everything worth buying, sp500, world msci, gold, silver, btc, some alts, berkshire b, some big tech stocks, wt brent etf, etc.
Dca in everytime it dips and take some profit when it pumps to build a position while managing the risk of a megabaghold

[Anonymous No.58569783]

>>58569742
But that's trading. You can be in the moment it starts going down and then you have to sell at a loss or baghold.

[Anonymous No.58569868]

>>58569728
Get a job lol
Why would you "retire" before having enough capital ($1M) in stable investments to fund your expenses?

[Anonymous No.58569970]

>>58569783
Not really. If it goes down that little amount you dca in stays in. It is all about risk management. Go 1% at the time or even less in a broker with very low fees, if it pumps take some profit and if it dumps leave it there. You get to buy lower at a predetermined targert. It will be back up almost 100% in the next 5 years.

[Anonymous No.58570504]

>>58568544
Is not exact, crazyness can happen just because people go nuts for something not just liquidity

[Anonymous No.58572325]

>>58568444
Buy QAN instead, It can do at least 10X easily

[Anonymous No.58572362]

>>58565518
CONAN is green right now which is great because I'm collaborating to an actual cause and making money

[Anonymous No.58574442]

>>58569783
Kek

[Anonymous No.58574754]

>>58569542
When rug

[Anonymous No.58574763]

>>58568760
Until meme coin dumps on you

[Anonymous No.58574789]

>>58568760
Then I'll have to wait for SUPRA TGE.

[Anonymous No.58574800]

>>58572325
10x is good but 100x is better.

[Anonymous No.58574818]

>>58568474
Wait for SUPRA TGE to come, 50x looks possible.

[Anonymous No.58574844]

>>58572325
A country in the EU is actually using this blockchain, in the next few years buying QAN might be like buying ETH at $1

[Anonymous No.58575414]

>>58574800
No time for memes. I'm going for bluechips that have become cheap with a vibrant team and governance like EOS, LINK, etc

[Anonymous No.58575507]

>>58565833
No his not

[Anonymous No.58575558]

>>58566926
>I think the btc and eth etfs inflows will be too slow
they are already priced in for the most part. basically the etfs brought the new bitcoin floor up to around 60k for the most part. last cycles ath is the new floor, but where is the money gonna come from for new ATHs? larry fink already became the worlds largest bitcoin holder.

[Anonymous No.58575594]

>>58574818
100X is possible with AAST too, it MC is at around 6M

[Anonymous No.58575606]

>>58565518
they'll lower the rate before eoy

[Anonymous No.58575649]

>>58565518
have you tried thinking outside of the narrow mind prison the people you listen to gave you?
judging by your post, the situation is even worse than that for you