/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.58178793]

Pay up piggies.

[Anonymous No.58178799]

>>58178793

I have an AI who ll solve the problem

[Anonymous No.58178812]

>>58178793

Gen Z cant do a sht, boomers have money, thats a lie

[Anonymous No.58178814]

>>58178812

Based

[Anonymous No.58178818]

>>58178793
>>58178799
those are 2 niggers and a jewrnalist!

[Anonymous No.58178822]

>>58178793

That old btch wants atention

[Anonymous No.58178825]

>>58178799

AGRS / Tau is the only AI out-there, the other sucks

[Anonymous No.58178855]

>>58178793
Can people finally get it through their thick fucking skulls that “retirement” is an anomaly Jesus fuck man. MOST WILL WORK UNTIL THEY DIE

[Anonymous No.58178864]

>>58178855
this jew gets it! you ll all work to the grave kids!

[Anonymous No.58178886]

>>58178864
Not even Jewish. This retirement pension ponzi we have is the reason for so many browns flooding the west

[Anonymous No.58178918]

my boomer parents have like 1.5 million in boomer stock mutual funds and earn like 40k in passive income a year, and have a government pension and social security
meanwhile us millennials cant afford eggs.

[Anonymous No.58178924]

>>58178855
>MOST WILL WORK UNTIL THEY DIE
Not aboard the SS NEETSHIP I won't. Ahh, feels gut mang!

Not.
My.
Problem.
>currently navigating the oceans of chain hotel eating store brand cool ranch dorito clones in bed at mid day

[Anonymous No.58178945]

>>58178924
You know the game NEET bro

[Anonymous No.58178960]

>>58178918
my net worth and passive income are both higher than that and I'm 34. just because you're a loser doesn't mean our entire generation is.

[Anonymous No.58178996]

>>58178960
Kek, im 32 and only have $150k, no debts and no problems ayyy. Dont have to do shit, it's the mindset that makes people losers. There retards in my hometown bitching about being bored and unable to do things, but they won't change or move to a different spot. They litterally have a poor mindset... anyway I live rentfree in their head

[Anonymous No.58179006]

>>58178793
I have never in my life seen a black boomer in a pool…this one is at some kind of local resort drinking a cocktail on a floaty? Who tf comes up with this stuff?

[El Arcón No.58179009]

How long are they going to keep this RAPE HATCH open?

[Anonymous No.58179010]

>>58179006
Black people usually don't know how to swim.

[Anonymous No.58179019]

>>58179009
Fix your skin Arcon

[Anonymous No.58179027]

>>58179010
They def aren’t the cocktail on a floaty type at the resort. Kek. Nu-blacks, maybe, but certainly not boomers

[Anonymous No.58179047]

>>58178996
It's a good feeling mane. I'm 27 and have $100k in liquid assets, only debt being my mortgage. Meanwhile my boomer parents couldn't even afford a sudden $1000 bill. They somehow bungled every opportunity they got.

[Anonymous No.58179296]

>>58178886
That’s one of the stated justifications. It’s really all an excuse to create a dependent client class that owes everything they have to their patrons and are easily manipulated

[Anonymous No.58179856]

>>58178855
>>58178886
Bullshit
And its not even a ponzi retard
it used to be the kids paying now its state wide
It works, people work 40 years and pay 1/4 of their income to retire 10 years

[Anonymous No.58179868]

>>58178793
>their kids are going to pay
lmao, boomers think their kids give a shit

[Anonymous No.58179876]

Enjoy the public old folks home

[Anonymous No.58179895]

>>58178918
Look at the present situation - the government is running far beyond the debt levels it can sustain. This requires a change. The present Administration is kicking the can down the road, juicing the markets, as a bribe to the boomers to get re-elected in November. If they can do that, they know they'll be able to make whatever unpopular move they need to because they don't have to answer to voters again. They've already said they'll "raise taxes" next year.

Here's who you tax: people with money. They're going to rug the boomers and steal their 401k gains, because those gains were merely a temporary bribe to get reelection. The markets will rug as soon as the election is done, or worse they'll find a way to tax unrealized cap gains. Whatever they do, they are coming for the boomer money. Take it to the bank.

The boomers don't care. They mostly don't like their kids which is why they haven't given them the money already. They'll just die when the good days are over. Seen it a dozen times.

[Anonymous No.58179905]

>>58179856
>pay out old investors with new investor money
It's explicitly a ponzi

[Anonymous No.58179910]

>>58179856
Are you actually retarded

[Anonymous No.58179925]

>>58179905
>>58179910
Its a redistribution you dimwitted retards
In germany for example there is no fund, it literally works that way, woprkers pay 25% of their salery, and retirees recieve that, in real time
This is NOT a ponzi, since there isnt even something invested

[Anonymous No.58179962]

My parents are like this. Except they accidentally got equity in their house so my dad decided to get a DUI, smash up a car, and lose his job in the span of a couple months. So in the end my parents will probably divorce for liability reasons so that at least my mom doesn't lose the house, and they'll come begging to me for money (my other siblings have already cut them off entirely scorched earth mode). When they do, I'm going to lean in and quietly tell them 'no'. I'll list out all the shitty decisions they made in life and remind them that when I was at my lowest they put me out on the streets after threatening me with violence.

Then I'll watch them lose every last thing.

[Anonymous No.58179980]

>>58179925
Ok so your just retarded

[Anonymous No.58179996]

>>58179895
Fiat suffers plastic deformation not brittle failure, there is no "kicking the can down the road" the consequences of BRRRRRR are felt immediately, see: stock market, housing prices.

[Anonymous No.58180010]

>>58179996
The consequences are present but they are relatively limited compared to a true hyperinflation scenario. They believe they can sustain this for short time frame, 18 months type of thing. They know it cannot sustain for three or four years.

The problem is they are not in control of the world financial system any longer. It's over.

[Anonymous No.58180023]

>>58178886
Hi Shlomo

[Anonymous No.58180151]

>>58179910
>>58179980
Fuck off psyoping retard
Why do ((you)) push the YOU WILL NEVER RETIRE line?
Not even an argument why redistribution is not redistribution aswell

[Anonymous No.58180171]

>>58180151
You are literally a retard who doesn’t understand how inflation plays into your gay little ponzi scheme

[Anonymous No.58180179]

>>58180151
RESDISTRIBUTION IS NOT REDISTRIBUTION BECAUSE OF INFLATION RETARD THE NEW PAYERS OF THE PONZI ARE SQUEEZED MORE THAN THE OLD

[Anonymous No.58180189]

>>58180171
Kys tard
Inflation has no impact since the money is payed out IN REAL TIME
In germany for example there is no fund, it literally works that way, woprkers pay 25% of their salery, and retirees recieve that, in real time
Retirees always get 25% of all workers money

[Anonymous No.58180207]

>>58180179
NO
Since its just taxes ----> retirees
It works in real time inflation is a non factor
Thats as much anti ponzi how it gets, you can ALWAYS pay out the oldest 20% of your society that way. (that said i think the taxes are too high, etc. but it works )

[Anonymous No.58180220]

>>58180207
>>58180189
I can’t believe that your actually this retarded no wonder Germany is collapsing

[Anonymous No.58180230]

>>58180010
No. You can't have hyperinflation without external denominated debt, you just get inflation when your debt is denominated in your own currency. This has been going on for 53 years and it can continue for another 50 years

[Anonymous No.58180322]

>>58180220
>Germany is collapsing
Two more weeks
Also you STILL can not refute my arguments kek
>nooo hes right i call him retarded hihi

[Anonymous No.58180345]

>>58180322
Every German I’ve spoken to is not hopeful about their future pension. Just because you keep sperging won’t stop your workforce from aging

[Anonymous No.58180349]

>>58180171
>>58180220
It exactly works like unemployment payment (and every other tax for a purpose), every worker gets taxes lets say 5% and it gets redistributed in real time.
Retirees are unemployed aswell, recieving through exactly the same mechanism
Would you say unemployment benefits is a ponzi aswell? Since its 100% the same.

[Anonymous No.58180372]

>>58180349
Yeah taking care of the unemployed is ponzi tier garbage

[Anonymous No.58180373]

>>58180345
>workforce from aging
Then retirees get payed less or need to work longer, but it 100% works non ponzi if you always pay the oldest 20%
>>58180345
>not hopeful about their future pension
Yeah no shit because the government is spending 100s of billions each year to foreigners, southern euros, israel, ukraine, new eapons etc etc etc etc

[Anonymous No.58180396]

>>58180372
Its redistribution from the productive to the unproductive by definiton not ponzi. But at least you admitting this brings us closer to an agreement.

[Anonymous No.58180403]

>>58180373
Yeah I’m not arguing with you anymore if you can’t see how all that is connected to the ponzi you’re lost. Have fun with never ending increasing retirement age in Germany though

[Anonymous No.58180416]

>>58180230
Bullish for bitcoin

[Anonymous No.58180420]

>>58180230
There will continue to be enormous "external denominated debt" in USD. Since it is unpayable the solution is to just print it out of existence after protecting your domestic economy by instituting a local currency.

[Anonymous No.58180443]

>>58180403
Unemployment benefits are existent since 1000s of years they are NOT a ponzi, and as you admitted, paying specifically old unemployed (retirees) is the same.
You yourself admitted im right

[Anonymous No.58180467]

>>58179856
Social security is a scam.

[Anonymous No.58180469]

Redistribution through taxes =/ Ponzi
Even tho im against it in most cases

[Anonymous No.58180489]

>>58180467
Well yes its pretty scammy, but its not a ponzi, it works indefinetely since you always can tax all workers 25% (as long as they dont revolt) and give it to retirees

[Anonymous No.58180523]

>>58180230
This is also not a rule
If the fed prints enough dollar and the government is spending enough you get hyperinflation no matter what.
Ancient rome also had hyperinflation because of money printing, and they had no foreign denominated debt.

[Anonymous No.58180538]

>>58180523
Forgot Link
https://medium.com/insider-economy/hyperinflation-in-the-roman-empire-and-its-influence-on-romes-collapse-446486dcda63

[Anonymous No.58180634]

>>58178855
Wage slavery is an anomaly.
Peasants in medieval Europe worked less than modern wagies, by a fat margin

[Anonymous No.58180705]

>>58179856
>>58179925
>>58180151
>>58180189
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ponzi_scheme
>A Ponzi scheme is a form of fraud that lures investors and pays profits to earlier investors with funds from more recent investors.
It is a literal ponzi scheme and this is the entire reason why you see such incessant boomer distress over population growth. They NEED an endlessly increasing amount of new people entering into this scheme because as soon as the population starts to shrink, the scheme collapses.

This is why they're pushing so hard for every Western nation to accept millions of third worlders each year. There's no grand conspiracy, just a bunch of boomers who know that they won't get paid if there isn't a surplus of healthy young people to steal from.

[Anonymous No.58180741]

>>58180345
The faggot responding to you is not speaking for Germany. Adenauer ripped us off and I'm already preparing a private retirement fund as to not be dependent on the childless boomer toll, I mean, state pensions. Let the old fucks eat moldy bread for plundering the economy and having like 1.3 kids on average. That's what they've singed up for
>t. Bernd

[Anonymous No.58180797]

>>58179296
Ding ding ding, this. Also as a bonus fracturing the lower classes in general. I don't know if there's anywhere this is more evident than in my own country (Sweden).

[Anonymous No.58180844]

>>58178793
Pffffft! Black people can't swim.

[Anonymous No.58180873]

>>58180705
There are no investors there it is no ponzi scheme
You dont invest, you egt taxes and the money goes in real time to retirees and unemployed
There is also no profit
Why dont you get it, by definition it cant be ponzi scheme
>>58180705
>This is why they're pushing so hard for every Western nation to accept millions of third worlders each year. There's no grand conspiracy
No, thats just the white genocite agenda, they search for every bullshit reason they find. Nice id switch and the same arguments....

[Anonymous No.58180885]

>>58180741
You literally pay in real time for boomers if you work lol
And your retirement depends on the children your generation has

[Anonymous No.58180918]

>>58180705
>surplus of healthy young people to steal from.
Also yes this is true, its a TAX so you absolutely can call if theft. Its just NOT a ponzi. It works forever if you keep taxing all workers with 25% if they dont revolt, if there are less workers retirees get less

[Anonymous No.58181179]

Why can't we just refuse to pay pensions to anyone who doesn't have a child?

[Anonymous No.58181824]

>>58181179
Yeah makes sense but the answer is the government

[Anonymous No.58183724]

>>58180420
"External denominated" as in denominated in an external currency. USD debt can't cause hyperinflation for the US
>>58180523
False. Roman had "high" (for the time, well below what the US has had since '71) inflation, not hyperinflation

[Anonymous No.58183810]

>>58180873
>they can't be investors because investors aren't threatened with garnishment and jail time if they don't pay in

[Anonymous No.58183831]

>>58181179
Creates a slippery slope of what is defined as having a child and not. Would you refuse pension to someone who is infertile? To someone who hasn't had kids of their own but can adopt/foster? What about someone who didn't have kids of their own but raised their siblings at a younger age when their parents were dead/jailed/incapable? Much like the death penalty you'll spend more money arguing this in court in the long run than just paying out and being done with it.

[Anonymous No.58184607]

>>58183810
Yes
Thats also why its not a ponzi
>>58183724
>False. Roman had "high" (for the time, well below what the US has had since '71) inflation, not hyperinflation
Read the article you hyperretard
>Although there is no definitive number, economists and historians believe that Rome’s inflation rate reached an all-time high of 15,000% between AD 200 and 300. To illustrate this with an example, one Roman pound of gold was valued at 72,000 denarii coins in AD 301

[Anonymous No.58184620]

>>58183724
>USD debt can't cause hyperinflation for the US
So yes it can just like it did for the romans, print enough and find out

[Anonymous No.58184687]

>>58180634
they also died in their 30s
had no health care
even the slightest scratch could get infected. you could easily die from the smallest injury
1/3 crops failed and no one had any knowledge about how to grow better
if you fiefdom have a bad year you cod easily starve to death
travelling was non existent. even if you did choose to travel you would face raiders and unfriendly towns who would enslave or kill you
but yea keep spewing the propaganda how much better literal serfs had it.

[Anonymous No.58184830]

>>58184687
>they also died in their 30s
no
if you subtract childdeaths people always lived to their 60s
>>58184687
>even the slightest scratch could get infected. you could easily die from the smallest injury
No because people were not weak faggots
>>58184687
>1/3 crops failed and no one had any knowledge about how to grow better
that was late mid ages when people got more enslaved, early mid ages people actually lived more of hunt and silvopasture which was healthier aswell
>>58184687
>travelling was non existent
Not that i do it now

[Anonymous No.58184959]

>>58178864
Do you think society should spend most of its wealth keeping decrepit boomers alive so they can watch tv at the expense of everyone else? Because that's whats happening.

The pension should not exist. Society should invest in the youth, because they will always be the future. If people want to retire, they need to work hard and save while they're healthy.

[Anonymous No.58185069]

>"Noooooooooooo! You can't just sell when boomers are retiring and they can't sell yet because it's all in retirement funds!"

Seriously. Why would the market let boomers make it?

[Anonymous No.58185089]

>>58184687
Cope of the highest pedigree.
What else did tv tell you, coward?