/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.57981245]

How the fuck can a coin have these "partners" and still be under $100 million market cap?

Does anyone know if projects are legally allowed to use other companies' logos and list them as partners if they're only using their services as customers?

[Anonymous No.57981274]

>>57981245
"partners" means they emailed them and got a reply this one time in the past. aka it means nothing.

[Anonymous No.57981285]

>>57981245
Vague partnerships pumping coins is 2017 meta. Too many coins with partners that ended up doing nothing.

[Anonymous No.57981308]

>>57981274
They're literally working with mastercard though:
https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release/fideum:-bridging-traditional-finance-and-web3.-partnership-with-mastercard-announced..

Do you think it's possible Mastercard would allow one of their "incubator" projects fake these partnersnips and not drop them?

Is there any examples you could give of another project faking these partneships? I feel like when chainlink put the swift logo on their website and everyone was saying they weren't really working together.

To be honest this project looks like a scam but they'r e working with MC so I'm not sure.

I bought a big position, sold 90% of it because it was underperforming but not im feeling fomo again

[Anonymous No.57981318]

>>57981285
>Too many coins with partners that ended up doing nothing.

Yeah thats what im thinking. But at ~50 million market cap I'm feeling a bit of fomo.

[Anonymous No.57981377]

>>57981308
>Do you think it's possible Mastercard would allow one of their "incubator"
it doesn't mean anything. you can join incubators easily. 9/10 projects in an incubator turn out to become nothing.

[Anonymous No.57981433]

>>57981377
It isn't an incubator per se, they won the 1st place in a mastercrad competition and seems to have a legit partnership with mc going on. Not really an incubator, but more like mastercard seems to be helping them get off the ground, which is why I call it "incubating" while they really call it partnership.

https://mclighthouse.com/financial-aggregator-fideum-was-announced-as-the-overall-winner-of-mastercard-lighthouse-finitiv/

>>57981308
>The collaboration between Fideum and Mastercard marks a significant milestone in the financial industry, setting a new standard for the integration of traditional and digital finance.
>This partnership leverages Mastercard's global reach and Fideum's blockchain expertise to enhance the financial infrastructure, offering unparalleled services to both retail and institutional clients.
>The alliance not only amplifies Fideum's offerings but also reinforces its position as a leader in the digital finance space, promising a future where financial transactions are more inclusive, efficient, and secure.
>As the overall winner of the Mastercard Lighthouse Finitiv, the company is set to expand its presence across the Mastercard Ecosystem.

I think there's a 50/50 chance of this being a scam or just an ESG cash grab because the team is full of women, but literally everything else has pumped hard as fuck and Im not sure if I should allocate more of my port to this.

Yes, I need to be spoonfed. Thank you.

[Anonymous No.57981472]

Any insiders there?

[Anonymous No.57981491]

>>57981245
>Does anyone know if projects are legally allowed to use other companies' logos and list them as partners if they're only using their services as customers?
Scams don't care about the legality of logo usage kek

[Anonymous No.57981517]

IMO FI is a decent chance for a moonshot, along with a bunch of other AI/RWA 40-60m mc buys. Who cares if the project is real or not, there are a lot of fraud projects that will get pumped on speculation alone. The fancy little mastercard connection is imo enough to get morons to ape in and pump it at least 10x

[Anonymous No.57981537]

>>57981433
>It isn't an incubator per se, they won the 1st place in a mastercrad competition and seems to have a legit partnership with mc going on. Not really an incubator, but more like mastercard seems to be helping them get off the ground, which is why I call it "incubating" while they really call it partnership.
still doesn't mean anything. Mastercard did some competition as a marketing strategy and you think it somehow means your shitcoin projec that took part is important.

>> but they won first prize...!!!
doesn't matter. you fell for it., hook line and sinker. Partnerships mean nothing.

[Anonymous No.57981556]

>>57981433
let me just put it this way, the paki nightstore on the corner in my town has a mastercard enabled terminal. they are... partnered with mastercard!!! I hope you now realize it means nothing.

[Anonymous No.57981580]

>>57981472
Building the most solid community in crypto from scratch.

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[Anonymous No.57981585]

>>57981491
Yeah but they’re working with mastercard, I don’t think mc would risk partnering up with a scam so that leads me to believe the partnerships are realsies

>>57981517
To be 100% honest. I built a demand model for the token and the market cap is following it to a t. I did the same with crypto.com but unfortunately didn’t have enough money or balls to bet big on it even though my market cap model was 86% accurate.

My model puts the market cap at 600 million market cap by June following a 80/20 distribution of paying customers by tiers.

I’m good at math/modelling but have paper hands sadly. How big do you think the market cap can go by the peak of the run?

[Anonymous No.57981597]

>>57981556
This. I work in marketing. „Partnership“ doesnt mean shit.

[Anonymous No.57981611]

>>57981556
>>57981585
You guys are evaluating the project from a "is this legit" pov, when you should evaluate it from a "will a retard buy this" pov. Worrying about legitness project is midcurving, this cycle it's back to left curving for max gainz. Case in point, OP "fell" for it. Stupider people will fall for it.

[Anonymous No.57981630]

>>57981537
>Mastercard did some competition as a marketing strategy and you think it somehow means your shitcoin projec that took part is important.
Do you know what other projects have won the the competition in the past and where they're now? Maybe that could give us a sense of how big it can get.

[Anonymous No.57981665]

>>57981537
>doesn't matter. you fell for it., hook line and sinker. Partnerships mean nothing.
If I fell for it, wouldn't that mean other people would fall for it too? Is that boolish or not?

>>57981556
>the paki nightstore on the corner in my town has a mastercard enabled terminal. they are... partnered with mastercard!!!
Do they have a token / is there any way I can invest in them? We can split the profits if you want

>>57981580
ok will take a look maybe later

[Anonymous No.57982227]

>>57981433
>mastercrad competition
lol

[Anonymous No.57982235]

>>57981274
fpbp this guy's a real one. Let him shill his coin and we will all take notes.

[Anonymous No.57982270]

>>57981611
>Worrying about legitness project is midcurving
ESL or just retarded? I see you; throwing stones from your glass house.

[Anonymous No.57982375]

Just buy cacao, 20.00 tp

[Anonymous No.57982400]

>>57981245
>rent a couple ec2 instances
>amazon partnership

[Anonymous No.57982760]

>>57982227
>>57982235
>>57982270
>>57982375
>>57982400
Ok so basically here’s my model. This is the same I used for crypto.com

So fideum right now has 70 thousand customers.

they have 4 tiers:
>tier 1: no need to stake
>tier 2: need to stake $2,500
>tier 3: need to stake $15,000
>tier 4: need to stake $50,000

So normally, according to the data from cro, the tiers normally follow an 80/20 distribution. So that means:

70 thousand total customers
>80% of customers tier 1 - 56 thousand customers - $0 buy pressure
20% tier 2,3,4, which is
>16% (11,200 customers) tier 2 - $28 million buy pressure
>3.2% (2,240 customers) tier 3 - $33.6 million buy pressure
>0.8% (560 customers) tier 4 - $28 million buy pressure

So all in all, we have a $89.6 million buy pressure and that’s only from organic staking, so no market making shenanigans.

I think we’re currently undervalued and the team is about to onboard half a million customers. Assuming 25% conversion rate that means about triple the current buy pressure which would be $270 million market cap.

If you add the frenzy due to the bull market and t1 listings I can’t see how a billion by end of year isn’t realistic.

So I have a model I can share with you all if you want. Again, this is the model I used for crypto.com and it worked out perfectly.

Let me know if your interested or not

[Anonymous No.57982795]

>>57982400
> one of the developers has a bank account at ING
> ING partnership.

[Anonymous No.57982840]

>>57982795
>one of the developers has a bank account at ING
W-where did you get that alpha from? Has this been confirmed by the team or is it just a rumor?

[Anonymous No.57982859]

>>57982795
Also, could you please read my analysis and let me know your thoughts? >>57982760

[Anonymous No.57983469]

Bump

[Anonymous No.57984335]

bump

[Anonymous No.57985309]

literal dogshit is pumping and you’re worried if a project is legit or not. ngmi

[Anonymous No.57985705]

>>57985309
Ok but is this the kind of dogshit that will pump or not?

Take a look at my analysis and let me know faggot >>57982760

[Anonymous No.57986027]

>>57981245
Have you considered the fact that the token is entirely unnecessary for the product and therefore can be deleted at any time without changing anything about the value of the company or its partnerships? Why hold a token like that? The token was invented to sell so they could fund the project. Forced “if you have tokens you pay less fees” “utility” is meaningless. They could just exchange that for Monopoly money literally and it changes nothing about the product fundamentally, or so away with that altogether. Don’t buy tokens which aren’t critical to the project. You need ETH to transact on ETH. You don’t need fideum to use any of its products, and any “utility” is basically just them scamming people out of money as a sales pitch to sell their funding token to you which they care nothing about because it has no attachment to the success of their product outside of giving them your money so they can pay themselves wages.

[Anonymous No.57986238]

>>57986027
>Why hold a token like that?
Because you need to stake the token in order to get the cashback and staking benefits. This is the same that crypto.com did with their token, which caused a massive demand shock from people staking their tokens because the circulating supply went down to less than 10% of the supply.

it’s basically a virtuous cycle that perpetuates itself.

>People buy token and stake for benefits
>circulating supply goes down
>demand goes up
>more people buy token and stake
>circulating supply goes down
>demand goes up
>more people buy token and stake
>circulating supply goes down
>demand goes up
ad Infinitum until everything crumbles once the bull is over. At that point hopefully the company is solvent enough to remain in the top 100 crypto coins like cro did.

See my analysis here and let me know what you think please >>57982760

>You don’t need fideum to use any of its products
Ok how do I get the cashback and staking benefits without the token then genius?

[Anonymous No.57987425]

Anyone care to discuss? Anyone?

I mean we’re talking about a good ol’ real business whose token can do a 100x without being a scam.

No one’s interested for real?

[Anonymous No.57987459]

>>57987425
Stfu idiot keep buying, it’s obviously going to go up. When the whole catalog is talking about it then sell. Congrats on finding alpha.

[Anonymous No.57987775]

Im a little suspicious that its not listed on any cex.

[Anonymous No.57987823]

>>57987775
Once that happens its too late

[Anonymous No.57987966]

>>57987823
Good point.

I like the energy of this thread. I'll throw one eth into the pot, see what comes out.

[Anonymous No.57988042]

>>57987425
Thanks for the info, OP.

[Anonymous No.57988290]

>>57987459
>Stfu idiot
Please don’t call me an idiot nigger

>Congrats on finding alpha.
Thank you!

What do you think of my model here? >>57982760

I used it for crypto.com. It was extremely accurate and think it also applies to any cashback project that involves a crypto token.

[Anonymous No.57988326]

Is there any way to buy this garbage that doesn't involve big transaction/gas fees on uniswap or whatever?

[Anonymous No.57988335]

>>57988042
Hey no problem man. I might rebuy my stack. T b h I’m a bit worried about so many women in the team but if chainlink can get to top 20 while hiring roasties left and right maybe this can get to top 100 too.

[Anonymous No.57988364]

>>57988326
I think you can buy it in their app but some poeple have been complaining about withdrawals not being processed for weeks. That’s another red flag me thinks.

[Anonymous No.57989006]

>>57981245

[Anonymous No.57989059]

>>57981245
>>57981274
>>57982235
What "partners" actually mean:

>We exchanged emails with the sales guy and they connected us with their institutional setup plaftorm.

t. guy who has a business that does these kinds of partnerships regularly.

It's not like they're a nothingburger, but they're not anything extraordinarily difficult to get. Most people in these companies, especially sales, need to fill their onboarding targets. Talk smooth and you have an institutional partner.

[Anonymous No.57989251]

>>57989006
Thank you for the info. The team said they needed the mint/burn function to be compliant with europoor laws in case they were hacked.

The ceo was a founding member at aave doing legal stuff so I think that reason might be legit.

I’m unsure what the other stuff means but if you want to simplify it I’m happy to hear of any red flags you can find. Maybe I can provide an explanation if possible

>>57989059
But they’re literally being supported by mastercart. Take a look at this post >>57981433

Do you think the award they won is not hard to get? I asked some other guy if he knew what other companies had won that award but he disappeared.

It appears the VC funds that invested into the project have also invested in stuff like aptos, opensea and kraken (yes the exchange)

[Anonymous No.57990403]

FUCKING BUMP

[Anonymous No.57991289]

>>57989059
Is institutional setup platform, what? Just like a resource database so basically anyone can access?

[Anonymous No.57991808]

>>57990403
Why are you so invested in this thread? Just have your stack ready and be patient.

[Anonymous No.57991844]

>>57981274
Exactly this shit. Plus companies dont really have time to call out every cockroach crapto project that uses their name to gain the advantage, they don't exist to them. Satoshisync's partners are all real though one hundred percent (%) no cap pinky promise.

[Anonymous No.57991863]

>>57989006
>>57989251
>In case they were hacked
You mean in case they get bored, rug and need a scapegoat to blame?

[Anonymous No.57991870]

>>57991844
link's affiliations with banks are also real 100% no doubty in my mind.

[Anonymous No.57991879]

>>57991844
This kek

Every project is somehow affiliated with huge news outlets and companies and yet nobody ever mentioned them anywhere ever. Shit's funny.

[Anonymous No.57991949]

Does this only apply for big coins or can decentralized coins on dextools for example get partners? or does getting a partner centralizes them? Am i retarded?

[Anonymous No.57992113]

>>57991808
>Why are you so invested in this thread?
Replies to my thread provide me with sexual gratification. What do you want me to tell you? Also, what do you think of my analysis? >>57982760

>>57991844
>>57991870
>>57991879
Ok but the head of innovation at mastercard literally commented on the project and they won 1st place (see >>57981433) at a mastercard competition:

https://www.fideum.com/
>Fideum is pushing the boundaries of traditional banking and payment methods, and their solutions perfectly address the changing needs and expectations of consumers.
>Mats Taraldsson
>Head of Innovation, Mastercard

I mean, someone at mastercard surely must be monitoring the project and would ask them to take down their “partners” images if they weren’t real?

This is either extremely undervalued or it’s a complete piece of shit scam that fooled even mastercard.

>>57991863
Well they said it’s due to europoor regulations, something called mica laws. I’m not sure if it’s real but the roastie ceo was a founding member of aave doing legal stuff so I think she probably knows what she’s doing.

[Anonymous No.57992154]

>>57991949
Excellent question fren. I don’t understand exactly what you want to know but the tone of your post makes it obvious even to the casual observer that the underlying question is hard hitting and extremely smart

[Anonymous No.57992166]

>>57981274
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>Please collab with us
>Sincerly yours
>scamjeet poomar