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Can you guys please redpill (ha get it) me on this coin? Why is it, or why is it not, a good investment? What does it do better than the alternatives?

>> No.57973931

>Can you guys please redpill (ha get it) me on this coin?
Doublespend, centralized turkroach chain
>Why is it, or why is it not, a good investment?
It’s not, you will lose your money
>What does it do better than the alternatives?
Absolutely nothing. Buy Ethereum instead

>> No.57974054
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>>57973811
>Avalanche can scale to millions of permissionless Validators because of its new Consensus that doesnt need all to all communication
>Avalanche has Sub Second Finality for any tx/smart contract (no more waiting like a cuck)
>Validators are needed for Subnets which are dedicated appchains that can run custom Virtual Machines
>literally everyone from TradFi (JPM, Citi, Fidelity etc.) to Gamers wants their own Subnet (asset tokenization market is somewhere between 16 trillion and 70 trillion by 2030 according to the WEF)
>Moving assets between chains/Subnets on Avalanche will eventually feel like dragging and dropping files from one folder to another
>already Kingmade as it was developed by IC3 (they made Chainlink and Ethereum) and funded by Fidelity, JPM and the NSF which created the Internet, Google, the SaaS business and many other things
>to run Validators AVAX has to be staked
>most AVAX is already staked or delegated to Validators (currently 60%+) and the network keeps growing
>AVAX is hardcapped like Bitcoin and deflationary from day 1

>> No.57974071
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>>57973931
>muh ETH
Wanna know the true Value of 1 ETH? its $10.
thats the Price before the EEA announcement in early 2017 and this is what actually attracted all that Liquidity into Ethereum.
Basically the financial industry coming out and saying they will support and develop for the EVM, that was the reason for the high ETH value and the massive pumps.
Now what happened next is that Ethereum developers couldnt deliver the scale that was promised and after some years the Ethereum Enterprise Alliance began looking for better Solutions and they found that in Avalanche and its Subnets.
Now the EEA is shifting to Avalanche instead and they are building all the RWA products that everyone imagined for Ethereum on Avalanche. All the RWA trillions go into Avalanche!
JPM (leader of the EEA) said Ethereum is dissapointing and now they hype AVAX.
There is literally nothing they need Ethereum for, the support for the EVM is drying up too as it became clear that its possible to build high performance VMs on Avalanche.
So yeah Ethereum is over but you still have the chance to swap your ETH into AVAX and make it.

>> No.57974330

>>57973811
Its 3 chains of Eth wearing a trenchcoat, that suffers from the same transaction fee bloat with high throughput as eth.
For an eth killer, its only proven capable of killing itself.
And for that reason, I’m out.

>> No.57974343

>>57974330
This
>>57974054
>>57974071
OP if you listen to this tranny you’re NGMI

>> No.57974402

>>57974330
Wait I thought it had a high TPS and low transaction fees, like that was a big selling point

>> No.57974414

>>57973931
>>57974330
>>57974343
>>57974402
t. ICPoors

>> No.57974425

>>57974414
What? I’m trying to find information about Avalanche not Internet Computer

>> No.57974477
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>>57974425
ICPoors are very salty about Avalanche thats why they spread baseless FUD.
best is to ignore them.

>> No.57974513

>>57974477
>ICP and AVAX
I read both of their websited and they seem to be very different from one another in their purposes. If you don’t mind me asking, what is the relationship between them?

>> No.57974550

>>57974513
The CEO of Ava Labs (Emin Gün Sirer) made himself a shitload of Enemies long before he was even involved in Avalanche so they are all buttblasted about him to this day.

>> No.57974552

>>57974513
ICPoors are mad that AVAX pumped today and also Dom (the ICP lead guy) cant stop seething at Emin (the Ava Labs lead)

>> No.57974730

>>57974550
>>57974552
Huh, interesting. It’s kind of funny that there are rivalries between crypto teams

>> No.57974744

big community
big money
twitter hype

thats all i got. i dont have any though

>> No.57974800

Explain how Avalanche even competes with ICP in terms of being a computer? With ICP I could host the server of my NFT game on chain, with players topping off to host it, all trustlessly. With AVAX you'll still be tonguing smegma out of Jeff Bozo's tiny limp clitty for a raffle ticket for a new EC2 instance that would only be good for a month and requires your players to trust you not to take their money and run anyway.

>> No.57974812

>>57974550
LOL nice swing at bending the narrative.

If you want to know why icp and avax have problems:

icp was sued by this law firm called Roche Freedman. Kyle Roche, who has after the release of the crypto leaks changed his name, was working with Emin and payed a large portion of avax tokens to sue competing blockchains allowing for information to be harvested and to make them look bad. https://cryptoleaks.info/case-no-3

>> No.57974885

>>57974730
With Emin its more like he always stepped on the wrong peoples toes.

he starts researching Bitcoin mining and figures out how to cheat that system (selfish mining)
then all the Bitcoin maxis send him Death Threats.
Then later on he egged on the BSV faggots and their Block debate.
Didnt make him many friends.
Then when the Ethereum DAO was coming up he pointed out weak points and exploits which led to its downfall and Ethereum forking, many Ethereum maxis blame him for it. the ETH devs are cool with him tho.
Then Emin got involved in Avalanche and started pointing out the Problems of other Layer 1s and Layer 2s and how they should improve and this created even more Seethe.
And now he has so many enemies hes pretty much getting attacked by everyone (solana fags, Polygon jeets, Aptos jeet, Dom from ICPoor etc.)

>>57974812
>cryptoleaks
and Dom got so butthurt bootyblasted he even made an entire site that shills AVAX FUD. hes so mad hes boiling in his own piss.

>> No.57974959
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>>57974402
Nope, still suffers from the same horrific transaction fee bloat as Eth.
But hey, its got a red logo and a triangle, instead of a grey diamond.

>> No.57974970

>>57974513
There's no practical use for either.

>> No.57974983

>>57974959
the only time fees was that high on avax was when they were being spammed by ordinals for millions

>> No.57975045

>>57974983
>my shit chain only went that high during crazy high usage that was comparable to an average day for eth.

This is some outstandingly stupid cope, and shouldnt even be possible.
Atleast solana shuts down when txn’s go high.
You just price gouge everyone like assholes, and then retcon over it pretending it never happened.

>> No.57975098

>>57975045
>Atleast solana shuts down
kek

>> No.57975128

>>57975045
bullshit eth has that high usage constantly and still even if your made up lie is true eth gas fees are still way higher and the transction is slower

>> No.57975169

>>57973811
Emin (owner of avax) is a filthy turkroach who's more obsessed with fudding other projects rather than promoting his own doublespending L1 scam, he's created a shill army both here and on other socials to fud turkvax competitors and just like their slavemaster they'll spend more time slagging competition rather than promoting their scamchain. And at the end of the day that's all you really need to know about this cockroach chain.

>> No.57975229

There's no winning with turks, their mentality is exactly what will always hold them back and is the reason for why Turkey has been, is, and forever will remain - a total shithole.

>> No.57975387

>>57975128
Eth regularly processes more transactions daily than avax.
The day the fee spiked, it jumped to a whopping 3.7m transactions. The fee spike for eth was last week at 2.2 million.
So sure, avax is a little less than 45% better than Eth in transaction volume capacity.
Unfortunately, if it had the inflow anywhere near what eth has, the problems would become very apparent.

Choosing avax over eth is like trading in a beige 2003 toyota corrolla for a 2006 honda civic.
You arent getting an appreciable or even noticable “upgrade” by moving over to avax from eth.

Thats the problem.
Thats the entire fucking problem
It *barely* does shit better than eth, and doesnt have any first mover advantage, users, devs, activity, or liquidity.

So the entire Ava Labs teams needs to fuck off back to their cave and try again. This product sucks shit, and its “benefits” arent even noticable.

>> No.57975555

>>57973811
Should I sell a little bit of my stack?

>> No.57975630
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>>57975387
>You arent getting an appreciable or even noticable “upgrade” by moving over to avax from eth.
Sub Second finality.
keep waiting for Confirmations you cuck

>> No.57975664

>>57974885
>And now he has so many enemies hes pretty much getting attacked by everyone (solana fags, Polygon jeets, Aptos jeet, Dom from ICPoor etc.)
Emin seems based, i might just buy a stack

>> No.57975751

>>57975555
Quads confirmed. Sold a little bit. Will buy back and then some at $40-$45

>> No.57975771

>>57975630
That quite literally does not matter, at all.

>> No.57975836
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57975836

>>57975771
>"nobody cares about DSL when we have dial up, who would ever need fast internet?"
cope.
keep waiting for the confirmations cuck.
on Avalanche I press a Button and the tx is finalized faster than I can press F5.

>> No.57975852
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>>57974477
>>57974812
How is video evidence baseless FUD?

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>>57975852
its obviously taken out of context and stitched together + they even deepfaked some stuff.
but who cares, exactly nobody.
it didnt stop JPM or Citi or Fidelity from adopting Avalanche Subnets.
today Avalanche is successfull and the pathetic slandering attempts did literally nothing.

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>>57975940
It's not slander, it's reality. Otherwise Roche would not have changed his name.

>> No.57976033

>>57975836
>My chain ensures an inconsequential metric is completed faster than yours.
>Therefore you should give up first mover advantage, users, devs, activity, and liquidity, to come to my chain.
this is you right now.

Are there any intelligent avax shillers to debate with? You argue stupid positions and use shitty AI generated moonboy art.
Your positions are cope, your “gotchas” are irrelevant, and your strawmanning is gay.
I’m getting the feeling that AvaLabs pays you dipshits to come here and make atrocious bad faith arguments. You’ve convinced zero people that avax is “way better” and you’ve convinced me that english is likely your second language.

>> No.57976094

>>57976033
but number go up tho

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>>57973811

First
>Suck

Second
>Get AGRS

third
>You suck

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>>57976020
even if any of that were true so what?
Emin weaponized the Law to attack a bunch of whiny faggots.
which is based.

>>57976033
>inconsequential
fast finality is extremely useful in anything finance but cucks like you love waiting for confirmations.
so keep waiting cuck. also write me another wall of seethe please.

>> No.57976171

>>57976125

>kek

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>>57976125

No one knows AGRS, fk you nigga

>> No.57976187

>>57976127
I accept your defeat.
Thank you for bowing out, even though it was rather graceless.

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>>57976183

Actually I hold, is a crypto from Tau a AI company

>> No.57976201

>>57976195

Fck you to then

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>>57976201

Go sleep boy

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>>57976187
what defeat?
a dumb nigger like you without arguments cant defeat me.
now go wait for some more confirmations. I'm sure it will confirm before you get liquidated :)

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>>57974513
funded by same VCs but avax paid their wagies to come fud ICP and shill avax everyday for months during the bear market. (just my theory) one poster specifically would spam every weekday right after lunch and never on weekends u could tell by the file names they were too lazy to change

>> No.57976543

>thread filled with midcurve fud that's been refuted hundreds of times or recycled jeet faggots pastas from 2022

Hate is really the most driving motivation, These retards are relentless

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>>57976423
keep seething fudnigger

>> No.57977683

>>57974330
>>57974959
>>57975045
>>57975387
>>57975771
>>57976033
>>57976187
I honestly thought you were just fudding your own bags, but after reading like 7 of your posts I really think you're serious. I think you actually mean what you are typing. I can't believe there are people like you that are so delusional. You've convinced yourself that avax is barely better than eth when the reality is that it's better in almost every way. It's scalable and faster and yes it's less popular. Ethereum has more developers and more users and more volume, yes you're right, but those metrics say nothing about the underlying technology. All I've got to say to you is this: we will let the markets decide. Sure the markets are crazy irrational but we will see where Avalanche is at the end of this bullrun. And I suspect you will still make up some excuses to conclude AVAX is bad. Good luck with the rest of your life. It must really suck to be born stupid... I almost feel sorry for you.

>> No.57978845

avaxchan hot

>> No.57979003

avax is a shitcoin no ecosystem no devs no one cares about it . irrelevant stop shilling this shit

>> No.57979102

avax is cool because there are anime girls and that guy who says nigger a lot

>> No.57979112

>>57973811
tokenization but you're too late to the avax game, sorry lilbro

>> No.57979148

it seems that our success has caused a bit of seething

>> No.57979193

>>57977683
>You've convinced yourself that avax is barely better than eth when the reality is that it's better in almost every way.
Real world testing, usage, and publicly available metrics, indicate this is a lie.
If it was actually better, why isnt it?
Thats the crux of the problem. Shillers rely upon white paper hypotheticals, and then hand wave the real world usage metrics.
Your chain gets viciously expensive anytime theres a spike in activity. NFT minting, ordinals stress testing, or a literal fucking crab game…

Avalanche and the rest of the chains exist in an ecosystem where you have the exceedingly rare opportunity to exchange the competition problem for the product market fit problem. You quite literally have open ocean to scale and try new things.
You instead chose the competition problem, and tried to min/max your chain to be slightly better, thinking that would make people uproot existing fleshed out platforms for yours.
Honestly, its unreal how foolish and short sighted Ava Labs was in this scenario.

Good luck in the Bull. Get your gains if there are any. I cant see your chain existing much after this cycle though, as its indistinguishable from the other 300 “Eth Killers” that killed themselves.

>> No.57979306

>multiple-random sub-sampling allows you to scale the active validator set without harming throughput/finality
>can build any vm on top of it
>can build custom blockchains, or whole subnets, that can be permisionless or permissioned, and are interoperable with any other subnet
>firewoodDB first custom built DB for blockchains will massively improve state management and read/write times
>vryx/hypervm with >100k tps per chain and sub-second finality
>capped supply, fees burned
>registered in NYC, founder on CFTC commission, only major coin not named as a security by SEC
>best BD in the game across trad-fi and gaming

top 3 is programmed

>> No.57979378

>>57979193
ETH obviously has first-mover advantage, nobody is claiming AVAX has more mind-share or market cap right now. But look at the typical technical metrics people use for blockchains

Throughput:
ETH: 14 TPS
AVAX: ~900 TPS per EVM chain (VM dependent... up to 100k+ with hypervm)

Hard Finality:
ETH: 14 mins as per ETH 2.0 specs
AVAX: ~1 second and decreasing

Decentralisation:
ETH: Nakamoto coefficient of 2
AVAX: 24

Scaling
ETH: Centralised L2s
AVAX: unbounded subnets, plus L2s if it wanted to

it's no contest.