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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org



>Non KYC:
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me



Official Gui/Cli

IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe


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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****

Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.

>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained

>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes

>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard

>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable

>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball

>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated

>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides

>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token

>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch

>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam


- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!


>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing

>Monero-only VPS hosting

>Monero-only bullion shop

>Win XMR!

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Whales Market #
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ivG7HN52

>LocalMonero is now available on I2P

Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project

or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/

>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund

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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.

>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!

>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.

>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.


The console is accessed via or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.


>> No.57842371

>If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable
What are you, retarded?

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Reporting in
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

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I miss this Boomer like you wouldn't believe.

>> No.57842899

Monero has the best memes out of any coin on this board

>> No.57842917

a shame it has the worst community

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Monero will win.


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Monero memes are kino, allow me to download all of these new ones on this thread.
Thanks monero bros.

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>Monero has the best memes out of any coin on this board
It really does.

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reminder for spamming shitheads

an antique isn't a currency

>> No.57843031

I used funny doge coin gains to buy a drug. How many drug did you buy from your bullrun gains?

>> No.57843110

tripfag triggered huh

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>> No.57844459

Monero is an unfunny failed clown in this clown market

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What's going on around here?

>> No.57845081

why should i trust monero as a store of value if nobody can audit the circulating supply and there is no proof that the chain hasnt been compromised? why cant the retard devs understand that and literally just rewrite the protocol to keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence based on the history of sends in the blockchain so people know theres not more coins than where created to begin wtih?

is it because there is no regular dev team and its just random tranny volunteers who code some shit one weekend then abandon to go get their breast implants and nobdy ever sticks to the project for longer than a month?

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>> No.57846377

>store of value
medium of exchange
>why cant the retard devs understand that and literally just rewrite the protocol to keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence
That was how it originally worked and then they figured out they don't need to make the transaction output amounts public. Start with the RingCT paper.

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I want to thank the anons who have donated so far. I have made a twitter post about it, but i'm going to save up the donos in order to buy a real anvil. The setup i have right now just isn't working. This is the anvil i'm planning on getting:

>> No.57846914

got cucked by binance fuck should I do?

>> No.57846995


>if nobody can audit the circulating supply
>why cant the retard devs understand that and literally just rewrite the protocol to keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence
Block rewards are in transparent amount. So, we know how many moneros are emitted at each block, all the way to the genesis block.
>is it because there is no regular dev team and its just random tranny volunteers
that's ztrash, not XMR.

>>store of value
>medium of exchange
Both. I have a long term stash that I never spend and save my money in. And I also have a hot wallet in which I pay my VPS.




>> No.57847007

For the Captain!

Download all the episodes (01-19) of Captain Blackbeard Radio on I2P torrents:


I2P Torrenting FAQ:
1) Download i2pd.website
2) Download Qbittorrent 4.6.0 (LT20 ==> LIBTORRENT 2.0 VERSION!)
3) Setup your Qbittorrent client as is shown here: https://github.com/qbittorrent/qBittorrent/issues/19794#issuecomment-1890950600
4) Sneed & feed the captain's radio Finest Sounds From The Underground!

>> No.57847228

Monero just hit an ATH in daily transaction count. Blocks are full, dynamic block size is kicking in.

>> No.57847286

I've already used your project as a talking point about how cool lateral economical networking is thrice now. Evocative in all the right ways.

>> No.57847355

>dynamic block size is kicking in.
Good. Gives us an opportunity to observe how the individual tx fees vs the miner earnings dynamics play out on the mainnet. If Monero can indeed scale on-chain using dynamic block sizes, that will be a testament to its technical-soundness over bitshit.

>> No.57847364

really? thank you! I do plan on making a real business out of blacksmithing and eventually silversmithing (already made a few rings for myself and some family members). Once i can get the business going, I'm going to offer custom services for blacksmith'd or silversmith'd items (political rings, knives, etc).

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>eventually silversmithing
I love silver. Keeps the jews away. They can't touch it because of olygodynamic effect it burns their skin.

>> No.57848214

Can I give someone a Spotify playlist and receive back high quality ogg or mp3 downloads from them with proper filenames? Either for free or by paying in XMR. It's >4000 songs.

>> No.57848247

try this service on moneromarket: https://moneromarket.io/listing/3a6a90e4-72fd-49b0-866a-9bdc4702b4b8

>> No.57848278

I recently wrote a script just for that. Drop a cock.li mail or something because it'll likely take a few off topic posts to get you on track.

>> No.57848370

I recently realized https://delta.chat/en/ works well with cock.li:

1) it turns cock.li email service into an end-to-end encrypted messaging service, while still using its email infrastructure
2) it can connect to cock.li's onion URLs for IMAP & SMTP, via Orbot on android or via regular tor daemon on Whonix
3) Can still send emails using delta.chat's desktop/mobile apps to others

Highly recommended for checking it out.

>> No.57848449

That is incredibly useful, thanks, I will keep it in the repertoire.
Something functionally similar, foregoing the email, that I have used in the past is https://onionshare.org/, which despite the name comes with an easily hosted chat room, no identity attached at all.

Peripherally related, is there any email provider that asks for as little data as cock.li without being blacklisted by everyone and their mother? Now that proton requires you to sign up providing an external email address (which is so retarded I still have not recovered) I'm cut off.

>> No.57848500

>is there any email provider that asks for as little data as cock.li without being blacklisted by everyone and their mother?
Are alternative domains of cock.li also got blacklisted? For example, airmail.cc or firemail.cc?

Other than that, you can check out riseup.net and disroot.org email providers.

>> No.57848567

Problem occurred with airmail, didn't try others as I assumed someone willing to blacklist one (proton, for example) is willing to blacklist all of them.
Sparked by this exchange I tried tuta and sign-up worked without any problem or identifying verification.

>> No.57848626

I will check it out. Hopefully it's someone who can run a script to download from Spotify and won't have to download them all by finding torrents cause I cannot afford paying someone for that.

anon9224@waifu.club My main concern is I don't want to risk my Spotify account, nor do I want to give my credentials to someone else. Ideally I'll make the playlist public, and someone will grab the songs for me.

>> No.57848638

https://ghostbox.cc is a one-time-payment, but maybe that means it's not blocked? Can anyone who uses it confirm?

>> No.57848824

Best thing is to just run your own mail server. Buy a cheap domain for a few bux, same with a cheap VPS and follow this howto: https://poolp.org/posts/2019-09-14/setting-up-a-mail-server-with-opensmtpd-dovecot-and-rspamd/

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You and me both, anon.

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Comfy 3d-printed gun and comfy CPU-printed money.

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btcbros why do you put yourself through so much pain and misery?...

>> No.57849259

>keep everything private but have a regular count of all circulating coins in existence
That's what already happens, but it doesn't save you from an inflation bug. Even BTC had inflations bugs, it's possible on a transparent surveillance chain. And XMR had an inflation/octo-spend bug that was detectable and provably not exploited. It's not so simple as "just add up the numbers".
Private chain doesn't mean that all inflation is undetectable. And inflation on a transparent chain can do massive damage as well.

>> No.57849906

Redpill me on the Creality Ender 3.

>> No.57850166

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57850186
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Got something for you.

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>> No.57850269

Oha nice, hope I'll get my salary this week to buy 10 or 20 of them, thats a really good price. Thank you a lot!

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Oh, you're a wagie. I thought you were a homeless bum because no bank account. Anyway, glad I could help.

>> No.57850349

/3dpg/ and /xmr/ are the only two generals I always keep tabs on.
Ender 3v3 is good apparently

>> No.57850384

Part time dishwasher, currently getting introduced to work in the kitchen 2 times a week, get my salary in cash and a small room at my working place and food

>> No.57850417

If you're not above taking gibs, the amt can also pay your rent directly so you don't need a bank account yourself. Just FYI.

>> No.57850519

I'm not registered at the apartment, wasn't officially registered at any place I was living in the past 5 years or so.

>> No.57850552
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I do respect your life choices, ghostmaxxing is based.
Just giving you options.

>> No.57850598

>Monero just hit an ATH in daily transaction count
but why, what happened?

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>Got something for you.
Thats fucking great, it comes without pfand too!

>> No.57850643

Was at the Amt once but never filled out the papers, I'm still trying to find a way building a comfy live completely independent. Maybe something with solar mining, selling beer and weed for monero, weed is getting legalized next month so I can grow 3 plants, growing own food in an offshore schrebergarten, stuff like that.

>> No.57850654

IRS-chan isn't feeling too well

>> No.57850721

I wish you luck. I recommend flipping PMs on moneromarket. Get some cheap 10DMs for 10€ each and sell for 13-14€. There's lots of demand. Gold too, but requires a bit more capital.

>> No.57850802

PMs is precious metals?

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Yes. They sell like crazy for me. Sold $1000 last month alone. I like german coins because of the low premiums. Also sold a gold chicken. It's easy money.

>> No.57850985

Whales starting to cash out of other currencies. Monero is the fat lady of the shitcoin opera.

>> No.57851073

Nice, will do some research about it but won't list it on moneromarkets out of respect for you bizness. But it's good to know if I'm ever in need of some quick cash. Thanks for the hint.

>> No.57851427

You buy them with cash from a real shop and then ship them to buyers online? What's a 10DM? Deutsche Mark?

Best of luck anon.

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Monero not only broke the previous record for highest daily tx count, it shattered it. 80k transactions in a day (compared to the previous 64k record).

Several thousand transactions are sitting in the mempool even with the dynamic block expansion.


>> No.57851539

Yes, except I order them online. Moving around to the next coin shop is more expensive than just shipping.
>What's a 10DM? Deutsche Mark?
Yes, but there's two of them. One is older with 625 silver and the newer from 98 on is 925. The latter is obviously better because of the higher purity. I do kind of like the 5DM (625...) though, because it's just 7g of pure silver and has approximately 0% (sometimes lower, that is, cheaper than spot) which is nice.

>> No.57851565

*sometimes lower premiums

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rate this cool new meme

>> No.57851673

Wow, looks like shit in a thumbnail.

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>> No.57852338
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>Comfy 3d-printed gun and comfy CPU-printed money.

We the freedom printers

>> No.57852348

just wait I'm gonna do a retake and make it super bloody and way funnier

>> No.57852625

>how to summon a ...

>> No.57852629

Looks like tx spam hitting the network

>> No.57852775

People are sending their Monero to exchanges to sell them for Bitcoin. Monero is going to $20.

>> No.57853622

Says who?

So where did you short XMR?

>> No.57853702

block reward

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>Says who?

Its our resident demoralization troll, pay no mind.

>> No.57853929

You think 90k transactions in a 24 hour period is organic? Are you retarded? Lol.

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monero does what bitcoin't

>> No.57854030

>You think 90k transactions in a 24 hour period is organic? Are you retarded? Lol.

Last time a spike like this happened everybody assumed spam, turned out it was just minexmr paying out.

>> No.57854152

feels good seeing how well xmr bounced back, as expected. i don't hold any myself though just appreciate the one true privacy coin. also it got me drugs a couple times

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And its worth noting that spamming XMR transactions as a deanonimization strategy is unlikely to be worth the effort since you'd need to control at least 73% of ALL outputs to deanon just 1% of TXs. And that's only if you're not being counter-spammed by the community or another attacker.

In any case, all of this is moot once full-chain membership proofs replace ring signatures.

>> No.57855373

If Monero becomes the world currency we'd still have inflationary capitalism which sucks. We need deflationary capitalism to save the world.

>> No.57855430

>inflationary capitalism which sucks.
Monero's inflation rate is lower than that of fucking gold. If gold's inflationary mechanics fueled the belle epoch, then, we will be fine with XMR's.

>> No.57855522

No, Monero won't be inflationary forever. Lost coins will eventually counterbalance the coinbase.

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wtf I thought I was Satoshi

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>> No.57855670

Cash out your milion btc right now, I want to watch the fallout
Bonus points for moving to the dumbest coin available as publicly as possible

>> No.57855708

>Bonus points for moving to the dumbest coin available as publicly as possible
What if he cashes out and then moves back to BTC again? How would the markets interpret that?

>> No.57855745

Some people who moved quickly and sold during the inevitable price dump will likely cry. I am too psychologically dissimilar to judge any reactions beyond that

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>> No.57857157

buy mordinals

>> No.57857210
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Question, how do we know for sure that the xmr supply is distributed without any huge whales akin to doge?
Also I buyed too much and lost money in the crash meanwhile everything is up a millionX

>> No.57857934


Most of the whales would have sold their XMR bags off during the first few years.

>> No.57858142
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Tether sez "thanks for playing, suckers!"

>> No.57858919
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Is it worth buying after all the fees if you only have $25 leftover after getting paid? Is crypto only good for rich people?

>> No.57859037

You don't. Have a stoploss. Stick to it.

>> No.57859167
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>Monero is going to $20.
Based. Then I can get cheapies!

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>Is it worth buying after all the fees if you only have $25 leftover after getting paid?
could be worse

>> No.57860398
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>just use LN, bro!
>opening/closing channels requires on-chain TX

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>>just use LN, bro!
>>opening/closing channels requires on-chain TX

>> No.57860709

cant buy spot on binance, only futures, wwyd? sorry im new desu

>> No.57861015

>We need deflationary capitalism to save the world
do you even understand any of the terms you are using?

>> No.57861242

>Hasn't read "A History of Central Banking and the Enslavmeent of Mankind"
NGMI homo.

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>> No.57861362
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the seed to the wallet that holds these and some others is up for sale

>> No.57861388
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Very cute.

>> No.57861462
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And USA-chan.

>> No.57861499

What does "datacenter" mean?

>> No.57861515

it's where the servers are physically located

>> No.57861640

On a centralized server?

>> No.57861645

What are those? NFTs on Monero? Oh no...

>> No.57861664

there are multiple physical high spec servers that host user vms
datacenters are where the physical servers are hosted

>> No.57861792

Mordinals were a proof of concept because someone thought tx_extra being unlimited is retarded. After these became a thing, tx_extra was quickly limited in size so these are quite the rarity ;)

The wallet also holds a bunch of the monero punks but nobody cares about those.

>> No.57861938

Sounds gay as fuck desu

>> No.57862700

If this is some sort of attack, it'sa good test.

>> No.57862704

>once full-chain membership proofs replace
when tho

>> No.57862737

>membership proofs
What is this shit?

>> No.57862743

Based I used kyun for a long time although it looks like my original server type doesn't exist anymore

>> No.57862795

yeah its all custom specs now

>> No.57862917

Kyung us fake, everything is fake it's all fake and gay

>> No.57862933

Fuckers in Matrix telling me, always in the 4chan
"Kyun ain't bout this, Naphtha ain't bout that"
He, he they say "That nigga don't be putting in no work"
Y'all niggas ain't know shit
All ya motherfuckers talk about "Naphtha ain't no hitta, Kyun ain't this, Naphtha a fake"
Y'all don't live with that nigga
Nigga been out of stock since fuckin, I don't know when!
Motherfuckers stop fuckin' playin' him like that
Them niggas savages out there
If I catch another motherfucker talking sweet about Kyun I'm fucking beating they ass!
I'm not fucking playing no more

>> No.57862934

It's all fake and gay

>> No.57862981

so /xmrg/, what goods and services will you provide that accepts XMR? The only real way the value goes up is if you can buy stuff with it.

>> No.57863108

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57863167
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>when tho

Most of the code is done. Now it needs to be thoroughly audited and an appropriate elliptic curve integrated into the codebase.

So potentially as soon as the next major upgrade to Seraphis.

>> No.57863319
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>>membership proofs
>What is this shit?

Currently, the specific TXO being spent must be specifically referenced in the constructed TX, hence the need for decoys.

But by using ZKPs we can prove the specific TXO being spent is part of an existing set of TXOs without needing to specifically reference it.

This set of TXOs happens to comprise literally every TXO on the blockchain, nearly 100 million at last count.

TL;DR: think of it as Monero going from a ringsize of 16 to 100 million+.

>> No.57863489

Tx spam now at 98k in the past 24 hours.

>> No.57863512

It is correct calling Monero a shitcoin?

>> No.57863735

whatever makes you feel good

>> No.57863818
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>It is correct calling Monero a shitcoin?

Sure, just think of the hilarious implications.

>> No.57864188

you should update that kycnot.me link to https://kycnot.me/?t=service&q=&xmr=on

>> No.57864295



>> No.57864408

Why does it keep crabbing

>> No.57864545
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It's the world's most private algorithmic stablecoin.

>> No.57864671


>> No.57864685

guys when're we getting rich?

>> No.57864844

you'll have only meme moonfag answer, the actual answer is swipe it for doge or some other garbage if you want to make any penny during the run

>> No.57864947

Real question, is the actual market for XMR as a currency growing? (DN and outside)

>> No.57864964
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Have seen more steroids sources accepting XMR over BTC in the past few months literally

>> No.57866565

So efficiency means maximizing centralization which is what the fiat world is about, bitcoin trilema trades scaling to decentralization and security, so first i want to ask why do we want CryptoCurrencys to be decentralized what is the value that we are maximizing for

>> No.57866663

How much?

>> No.57866672

Simply "yes".

>> No.57868268
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>what is the value that we are maximizing for

>> No.57868517

Use kraken if you want a cex. Use localmonero if you are based.

>> No.57868665
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>Use localmonero
Only if you're from a country that supports US foreign policy.
Localmonero is cringe desu.
ultimately a final p2p solution is needed.

>> No.57868694

I sold xmr for cash by mail (euro) before. It works. No fuss.

>> No.57868695

>ultimately a final p2p solution is needed.

>> No.57869570

Good morning, I hate moonfags.

>> No.57870215

I'm stacking piconeros as we speak
not to use it
just to sell on the pump

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>> No.57871494

localmonero just werks

>> No.57871699

>Use kraken if you want a cex.
cex with monero chan

>> No.57872156

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57872585

incognito is rugging, do not deposit

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>> No.57872674
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Just a reminder that this is the market Bitfags expect you to take seriously.

>> No.57873989

if you’re gonna larp, larp as fluffy

>> No.57874856

The fuck is happening with transaction count? Have Monero been accepted as the worlds #1 crypto?

>> No.57874890

Retarded lambofags. It's just a casino at this point. Nothing more.

>> No.57875107

guys it's me, your fren SBF
I need to swap some coins for monero

>> No.57876528

give me the jewgold, Sam

>> No.57876859

Are there good any RUB/XMR exchanges?

>> No.57878243

Remember to spend your xmr, hodltards are delusional.

Fuck niggers. Fuck kikes. Short the AntiChrist.

>> No.57878521

seethe rat, I'll hold my xmr as long as I want

>> No.57878656

It is a good stress test anyway, so I do no care why.

>> No.57879670

>when you buy high but also sell low
never change /biz/

>> No.57880046

this is literally never coming out

>> No.57880094


m o n e r o

u love to see it

>> No.57881189
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Free audits are always welcome.

>> No.57881607

Where to find more of this demon sir?

>> No.57881919

I've personally been using XMR a lot more these days. Good time to accumulate and I've accepted some for services too.

>> No.57882040


>> No.57882175
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Please AI generate more photorealistic monero sama pretty please

>> No.57882379
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Why AI generate when we have real Monero Sisters?

>> No.57882690
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>> No.57883048

That's a man

>> No.57883304

why should I read your posts when you come in every thread and post the same dogshit questions every time but ignore the answers?

>> No.57883437

I really just buy this shit to drain liquidity from cexs and larp

>> No.57884278
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So you bought a coin based on fundamentals, yet ignored that an open blockchain has its own advantages

>> No.57884317
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buy monero
show view key
get open chain

>> No.57884636
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>> No.57884744
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Very based.

>> No.57885272

wownegros we are POOMPING

>> No.57886023

Monerochan hitting a new ATH in daily transaction count again today.

>> No.57886075

Prove it 1pbti

>> No.57886104

Holy shit how based are these guys

>> No.57886120

Ghostmaxx sigma grind. Hope they are successful in evading this scam draft to die for (((Israel))).

>> No.57886452
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>all Serai liquidity pools will be dual-sided
This means I need to own both coins to provide some liquidity?

>> No.57886662

>out of the top50
it's over

>> No.57887276
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>waiting ~25 mins for a transaction to be mined into a block
Anons, are we under attack?

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>> No.57887347

You can provide only one asset and it will auto-sell half for the other. You are exposed to the price of both while in the pool and might suffer impermanent loss.

If it's an attack it's not actually optimized to do damage efficiently. It could be a pool or exchange that is sending out transactions directly instead of batching but it's unclear why they would do that.

>> No.57887358

Probably. Just increase your tx fee.

>> No.57887382

So the best practice is to provide two coins?
It went through, was from an exchange so I couldn't control the fees.

>> No.57887436

I'd recommend adding liquidity during the genesis phase. During that you only add one side (btc, eth, dai or xmr) and get the other side airdropped.

>> No.57887459

That's nice. So only initial validators will be hand-chosen to bootstrap, but liquidity providers can be anyone anonymous?

>> No.57887520

Correct. You can also set up a validator anonymously right after the genesis liquidity period ends. The stake and setup requirements could be a turnoff though. The best place for information is the serai GitHub and discord.

>> No.57887552
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Thanks for the info anon, I'll definitely look into providing liquidity during genesis. Being a validator is out of reach for now.

>> No.57888166
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Just in case you mised it:

>Serai's testnet is live and has started to produce blocks!

>> No.57888251

this is like a fucking South Park episode.

>> No.57888464

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57888529

How is seraphis looking?
The git discussion wasn't updated in a while

>> No.57888777

you don't have to die in a (((war)))

>> No.57888817

>genesis phase
when is that bro?
I will unload my massive liquidity

>> No.57889018

The top 50 includes dog meme coins, POS tokens which barely qualify as cryptocurrencies and currencies that are accepted nowhere. Meanwhile you can spend XMR on whatever you like, white, gray and black markets: https://monerica.com/ (black markets aren't on that page).

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>> No.57890668

Why can't you pay for 4chan Pass with XMR? What's the next best alternative for privacy?

>> No.57890738

>4chan Pass
>What's the next best alternative for privacy?
buy a captcha solver

>> No.57890760

>Why can't you pay for 4chan Pass with XMR?
Because this platform is way too high profile to not cooperate with law enforcement. There is no legal way to get around this
>What's the next best alternative for privacy?
Altchans. Lurking without posting. Figuring out how to get a residential IP address

Note how the choice is exposing your IP (they went a long way blocking vpns) or your payment details

>> No.57890865
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Why is my transaction not going through? I'm on the latest version of the GUI. No errors. 27 minutes, 0 confirmations. Is the network congested?

>> No.57890923

It's not for captcha, it's for posting from VPNs/Tor in case this website gets banned by ISPs in this country
>residential IP address
What do you mean?
Agreed, but I really was asking what's the best alternative crypto for privacy (that 4chan supports for pass payments)

>> No.57891083

it is 100% worth the effort because monero transactions are so cheap you can confidently own 90% of all outputs over 4+ years for less than the cost of one government contract

but that entity has already poisoned 90% of monero's ouputs. this entity, whoever they are, aren't deanonymizing, simply attacking.

>> No.57891108
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I've been here all summer.

>> No.57891192

>posting from VPNs/Tor
the privacy larpers in these monero threads aren't smart enough to understand this.

>> No.57891213

But it's not even for privacy in my case

>> No.57891232
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We've been at ATH of transaction count for the last few days. Happened out of nowhere.
Looks like the blockchain is under attack and can't keep. This coin definitely going down to $0.

>> No.57891240

So in order to moon, all that we needed is a global mass draft dodge (conventional WW3)?

Therefore Monero is a financial hedge against conventional WW3

>> No.57891520

Bumped the fee slightly and everything is fast. Had the same issue.

>> No.57891549

>best alternative crypto for privacy
Swap from XMR into the one with lowest fees that they accept.

>> No.57891986

Kayaba is giving a talk about serai at Monerokon. If it isn't live by then, I would assume it to be shortly after.

>> No.57892138
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Anyone using Feather as a view-only wallet? I'm trying it and the balance it displays is incorrect, it ignores all outgoing transactions.
On Anonero I just import the outputs to the offline wallet and it all syncs.

>> No.57892255

inputs use view keys, outputs use spend keys. a wallet incapable of spending can't detect spends without importing that data from one that can.

>> No.57892492

could be an attack though I wonder if transactions that used to happen off-chain on binance are now happening on chain (people using swap exchanges)
either way monero continues to work as intended

>> No.57892523
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>bought the delisting dip
>price recovered
>mfw using XMR gains to pay for office space to run a Serai node and mine shit

>> No.57892637
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I love Fumonero-chan doing Fumonero-chan things, brightens my day up.

>> No.57892767

good for them, desu.
Young men like them are too smart to die in an endless war.

>> No.57892915
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>it is 100% worth the effort because monero transactions are so cheap you can confidently own 90% of all outputs over 4+ years for less than the cost of one government contract

Wow, its that easy?! I expect Chainalysis will be all over that then! Imagine the prestige and publicity that finally cracking Monero would bring!

>but that entity has already poisoned 90% of monero's ouputs. this entity, whoever they are, aren't deanonymizing, simply attacking.

Wow, its so over!

>> No.57893356
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It's a fumo eats fumo world out there.

>> No.57893417

I will write to abuse@getmonero.org

>> No.57893460

>Imagine the prestige and publicity
you monero midwits really are a complete lost cause

>> No.57893597
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Too late.

>> No.57893655
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>you monero midwits really are a complete lost cause

Yes, we are. So stop trying to save us and go enjoy the totally organic BTC pump to $70K, $100K and beyond!

>> No.57894022
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>> No.57894053

Hod you run a serai code whats the profit

>> No.57894217


>> No.57895038
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It's over.

>> No.57895646
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Monerochan started going totally apeshit!? What's going on?? HELP!!

>> No.57895758
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>> No.57895769
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There is no mobile Monero wallet that works with a Trezor, right?

>> No.57895813

saving this one to post during the next delisting to scare moonies even more.

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Fuck Trezor, use AnoNero, the discerning gentleman's choice.


>> No.57896029

Can I make my main source of income in Monero without government thinking I'm a drug dealer ?

>> No.57896082

as long as you cut the taxman his share nobody's gonna give much of a shit provided you don't seem sketchy in other ways.

>> No.57896422
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memefied version

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>> No.57896833

You are acting retarded anon and don't understand flooding attacks. This is actually a potentially pretty serious incident in the short term.

>> No.57897614
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>You are acting retarded anon and don't understand flooding attacks. This is actually a potentially pretty serious incident in the short term.

Yes, just like all previous flooding attacks were "potentially pretty serious" incidents. Except they weren't. Turns out that in practice these attacks don't actually yield much actionable data due to paranoia and basic OPSEC keeping the usual suspects away from KYC'd platforms.

And as you know, non-use of KYC'd platforms = no leads to follow. Addresses and amounts can't be traced on-chain, sad day for the glowies.

In any case, nothing that can be done about it right now. We'll start to panic when the MRL homies say its time to panic. .

>> No.57897968

Thank you for blessing us with these images, very cute!

>> No.57898458
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Hey guys, need urgent help, about an hour ago I sent some XMR to an address which expires in 3 hours (Now 2) And my transaction is not confirming at all, I've been waiting for an hour. Am I fucked? It wasn't a small amount that I sent

>> No.57898537

connect the wallet instance to another node perhaps


>> No.57898902

hey bros how is i2p working, are there a ton of sites now

>> No.57898974


>> No.57899040

guys what's going on?
are the powers that shouldn't be pissed off and doing something?
I'm scared
is that an oven?

>> No.57899114

Resync your wallet and your xmr will be spendable again. Send your entire balance to yourself with a high transaction fee and you'll double spend, invalidating the first transaction in the mempool

>> No.57899140

Why you burning XMR bro I could use it.

>> No.57899175

Switch nodes and rebroadcast.

>> No.57899196
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(IP changed)
No node profit, I'm just going to be selling things in XMR so it behooves me to support the network.

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>> No.57899541

what wallet are you using and what fee did you use for it? network is experiencing slowness due to a spam attack, so you need to select a higher fee to send it quicker. It'll probably be fine.
open your eyes retard. more people are experiencing transaction issues because of the mempool growing and now there are 125k transactions in the past 24 hours. This is a flood attack. It's not the end of the world but it is problematic.

>> No.57899585 [DELETED] 

>T. Living in hyperinflation
My aunt needs medical help and I can't afford anything if you guys can give me XMR I will post updates

>> No.57899998
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Monero now has a low-fee line.

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>> No.57900191

Nice try faggot, that's not his address. Kill yourself

>> No.57900317

I have multiple addresses.

>> No.57900556

you need monero to become a tranny

>> No.57900669

what proof is there that this is a flood attack other coins have been rising lately as well

>> No.57900885

confirmed block 3100236
glad u made it fren
sending big monero with small fees? neber agen

>> No.57901017

hello frens, how rich is monero in the darknet, I remember a long time ago it used to be only bitcoin

but how is it now, is it just obvious that only feds are using bitcoin, how are things working

I'm still somewhat shocked looking at darknet news and seeing these retards trying to launder bitcoin, like, bro, if they know your account you can't claim you don't have access to it when the funds move, funny

>> No.57901787

everyone saying its an attack doesn't understand that attacking monero requires you go unnoticed (and its almost certain monero has been under such an attack for years)

what's happening now is someone seeing what that dude did to nano and thinking "hey i know of another blockchain that has artificially low fees i can easily cause trouble for"
don't overthink it

>> No.57902665
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3rd day in a row of daily tx all time high. 120k.

>> No.57903717

Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

>> No.57903981

just so they can hand it to you drug addicts

>> No.57904014

so now that we know it's a flood attack, what are the implications of it?

>> No.57904085

I see many people claiming that markets are switching en masse to I2P but I've got yet to see one.>>57874856
There's quite a lot of blogs and torrents and small websites.
I'm not aware of any dark markets on it though.

>> No.57904243

it isn't, flood attacks are undetectable and all encompassing.

>> No.57904264

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57904273

Alphabay is on i2p

>> No.57904305

Average block size is close to 300k. If anything, this is practical test of the increased network use and community should decide how ok is current rules and maybe increase tx fees slightly or something, during next fork.

>> No.57904333

nothing makes me more bearish on monero's developers than their lack of understanding how low fees destroy the privacy model of ring signatures

>> No.57904339

nothing makes me more bearish on monero's developers than their lack of understanding how low fees destroy the privacy model of ring signatures

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As self appointed reichsminister of monerochan propaganda it is my job, no, my duty to provide you with cute and funny monerochans. I'm no good at drawing or gimping, but playing with dolls I can do.
It makes me happy and paoud to see my work so well received. There is going to be much more! Stay tuned!

>> No.57904434

you're dragging these threads out of the depths the midwit op spammer has taken them to in the last few months

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It's the least I can do to help monerochan to rightful supremacy.

>> No.57904604

Synthesize estrogen in your bathtub and sell it for XMR.

>> No.57904914

how do low fees destroy privacy of ring signatures?

>> No.57904995

Why not fent?

>> No.57905256

this is the funniest shit ever

>> No.57905326

ring signatures only work when the cost of mass deploying tainted decoys outweighs the reward for doing so.
if monero had the fees of bitcoin, for example, it's privacy would be vastly increased.

>> No.57905409

It's sad more than anything.

>> No.57905430

Is there any place to see developer discussions about the crazy tx rate increase?

>> No.57905679

>Monero is le bad... because...
Did I guess right?

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>> No.57906189

we don't post 9gag memes around here

>> No.57906285

Nice, I first imagined it would be the Talmud by reading the caption

>> No.57906364

That would be very autistic and based but sadly I don't have any talmudry. I might be able to print out a cover and glue it onto another book convincingly.

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>if monero had the fees of bitcoin, for example, it's privacy would be vastly increased.

lol. How about we keep the fees low but get rid of ring signatures instead?

>> No.57906576


They potentially control 80% of the txs right now. How many of the txs would that let them deanonymize?

Also, if one, as an example, can deanon 10% of the txs, does that mean that if you send the funds once to yourself before sending them to someone else you effectively make it only 1% probable that both of your txs are deanoned? (and I believe both of them would need to be deanoned for you to be deanoned in practice)

>> No.57906608

NEW THREAD: >>57906602
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>NEW THREAD: >>57906602

>> No.57907444

>They potentially control 80% of the txs right now. How many of the txs would that let them deanonymize?

At the current ringsize that would be slightly above 1% of TXs. And that's ONLY if funds are sent *directly* to a KYC'd platform.

>Also, if one, as an example, can deanon 10% of the txs, does that mean that if you send the funds once to yourself before sending them to someone else you effectively make it only 1% probable that both of your txs are deanoned? (and I believe both of them would need to be deanoned for you to be deanoned in practice)

Churning will help, don't overdo it tho. Just send to yourself a few times at random with at least 6-8 hours apart. That throws a wrench in their plans.

And above all, don't fucking panic: this ain't the first flooding attack (if that's indeed what this is) Monero has dealt with. Its a welcome stress test, a showcase for how the network functions under pressure.

>> No.57908545

Thank you for answering even after the new thread was created. The advice is also very appreciated.

>> No.57909023

I already know what RMS is going to rant about, but it's pretty impressive they somehow got him on. I doubt he knows anything about crypto. Going to watch it.

>> No.57909311

Please post about your conclusions it in next thread. I'd like to watch it but can't right now.
Anyway it's amusing how leftist types hate crypto but proclaim a love for freedom.

>> No.57909336

Will do.

>> No.57909578

also valid, if only the devs didn't glow brighter every time this was brought up

>> No.57910096

Incognito market exit scammed, this was made public on the 5th or the 6th.
You can see the corresponding activity from that on monero txs and I think on bisq as well.