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Okay, can people hear me? Raise your hand. Alright, at least a few. That's good, let's start. I'm delighted to be here with you today.

>> No.57778647
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>>57778602
>I'm gonna talk about my thriller novel, The Oracle, which was released just last week, last Tuesday as it happens. Now the book is science fiction, but it's also a scientifically based exploration of the near future. And I'm gonna focus today on one of its central messages: a caution about the combination of blockchains and AI.

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>>57778647
>Now to be clear, the convergence of these two technologies is both powerful and promising in my view. And I'm looking forward for instance to the panel later today about decentralized AI, which is something that's realized of course using blockchain technology. But there's also a potential dark side.

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>>57778682
>back in 2015/2016, co-authors and I wrote this paper that implicitly warned about how AI could be used with smart contracts to lead to the emergence of something I'll refer to as Rogue Smart Contracts, or Rogue Contracts for short. A rogue contract, in a word, is a smart contract whose purpose is to sell criminal services or to solicit a crime for money; for a bounty paid out in cryptocurrency. And it does so of course using the trust properties of smart contracts. Let me give you a little example to illustrate.

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>>57778744
>This is a benign example, nobody gets hurt. Many of you may be familiar with the Koh-I-Noor diamond; it's one of the worlds most famous gemstones. And its part of the British royal families collection of jewels, it sits in the Tower of London. But it has a contentious history, it's a politically contentious thing and there are many people in fact who believe it is cursed. So you can imagine that somebody might want it to disappear. Doesn't necessarily want to posses it, just wants it to vanish from the Tower of London. Well such a somebody could create a Rogue Contract that pays a bounty, let's say a hundred thousand dollars in cryptocurrency to whoever makes this diamond disappear.

>> No.57778850

based transcript anon

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>>57778826
>Now of course there are two questions here: How does the contract know to begin with if the diamond's been stolen? And number two: How does it determine to whom the bounty should be paid, should the diamond disappear?

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>>57778856
>To answer these questions I have to quickly introduce a concept known as a calling card. This is an exotic detail left at the scene of a crime, whose purpose is intentionally to identify a criminal to the world. So for example, if you've seen the classic and delightful Pink Panther movies, there's a jewel thief who uses the name 'the Phantom', played here by David Niven. His calling card is a glove, monogrammed with the letter P, which stands for Phantom of course. So if a jewel disappears and this glove is found at the scene of the crime, everyone knows that the theft was committed by the Phantom.

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>>57778850
this

>> No.57779033

More please

>> No.57779041

sorry but I'm just not gonna read this Blockchain Harry Potter garbage no matter how much it gets shilled

>> No.57779070

BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDOS HOW YOU DOING BASED KIDDOS POOLS CLOSED LPL SEETHE

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>>57778950
Now with that concept in mind, I can show you how a Rogue Contract would work for this particular scenario. So let's suppose this is the first time that the thief has used this particular calling card at a crime. What the would be thief does, is take a description of the calling card, monogrammed P glove, and sends it in concealed form to the contract. So you can think of it as encrypted or using a cryptographic commitment. At that point, the diamond gets stolen, and the news reports: famous diamond stolen, Koh-i-Noor is gone, at the scene of the crime was left this monogrammed P glove. And now the contract checks, after the thief reveals the calling card, he now de-commits it or de-encrypts it. The contract checks whether there's a correspondence between this revealed calling card, monogrammed P glove descriptor, and news reports of the crime. And if they match, because the criminal is the only one who could have known in advance that this was the calling card for this particular crime, the bounty is paid out to whoever revealed the correct calling card.

>> No.57779080

Thanks scribe anon I'm going to get text to speech to read this back to me.

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/COMFY/ thread is COMFY

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>>57779079
>Now where does AI come into play here? Here. To establish this correspondence between the calling card and the news, you need to make use of an AI tool, like an LLM, like Chat GPT. And this could naturally reside in an oracle. So the contract would pose to the oracle the question: Do the news reports match the calling card? And if the LLM says yes, the bounty is paid as I've shown.

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>>57779080
lol this is total bullshit my honey badger friends know all about blockchain magic and they tell me that your stupid story is nothing more than a fake news 4chan pasta with a sprinkle of retarded bullshit and what kind of name is scribe anon anyway sounds like something a honey badger would say to make fun of a basedboy like you your wife loves honey badger dick but she wants to take mine and all my friends because you're a cuck and a pussy who spends too much time on 4chan

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>>57779118
>I've left out a lot of details of course, but knowing how smart contracts work, what you can appreciate is that all this can be done without the person who offered the bounty, and the thief having to trust one another, or ever having met. And this is what makes Rogue Contracts potentially so dangerous.

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>>57779149
>Now my novel, The Oracle, is about a man, happens to be a software developer at an oracle company, who's targeted by a Rogue Contract. In the case of the novel, the contract is offering a bounty, again cryptocurrency reward, for him to be killed. And of course a suitably coded smart contract is in principal unstoppable. So our hero's faced with this unstoppable force and essentially impossible task to terminate the smart contract. This is the crux of the novel and this of course is what makes it a thriller.

>> No.57779251

>>57778950
>museum "steals" koh i noor
>gets moni
>puts it back on display

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>>57779227
>I want to make a few remarks. First, Rogue contracts of the type i described are technically feasible, thanks to the advent of Chat GPT and other powerful LLMs. But happily, they're not possible with todays infrastructure, we have time. Not possible, yet. So the novel is among other things a cautionary tale about the future of blockchains and AI. Its also worth taking stock of the bigger picture, right, we all worry about rogue AI by which i mean this godzilla like thing that's somehow gonna escape into the real world and go on a rampage. For example, one of the nightmare scenarios would be an AI agent gaining control of a weapons system, an autonomous weapons system. Or somehow seizing control of cyberphysical infrastructure like autonomous vehicles. But there is a vector of escape that many of us overlook and that is the financial system. Godzilla with a wallet if you will. Because if you can control money, you can impact the tangible world in ways good and bad. And the scenario that i described, for instance, becomes possible.

>> No.57779365

>>57778950
>To answer these questions I have to quickly introduce a concept known as a calling card. This is an exotic detail left at the scene of a crime, whose purpose is intentionally to identify a criminal to the world.

the authorities just wouldn't publicly announce details that might be associated with a calling card so the criminal doesn't get paid.

This is the chief scientist of chainlink and he doesn't even consider the common sense actions that authorities would take to deny these criminal smart contracts from collecting the necessary data to execute.

>> No.57779403

>>57779365
I don't think he has an incentive to detail *exactly* how a rogue smart contract would work end to end (that's what the book is for, buy now!)

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>>57779307
>So we have to ask ourselves: what should we try to do about Rogue AI accessing crypto assets? Well, oracles are going to facilitate LLM use and if we're not careful, potentially can facilitate it in the scenario that i described. But they'll play another role: Oracles are going to act as gatekeepers between AI tools and blockchain assets. So we can potentially flip the scenario i described on its head and instead ask: how oracles can enforce AI safety when it comes to crypto assets? And this is something my colleagues at Chainlink Labs and in academia and I are taking very seriously and just starting to explore. And something i hope others like you will also give serious thought to.

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>>57779421
>That's it for my talk. If you'd like to learn more about my novel there's a website, URL, and QR code there. And i'll be offering complimentary books and signing books if you'd like at the Chainlink booth later this afternoon. And i'm looking forward to seeing you there. Thank you.

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>>57778602
relevant historical thread:
Ari's favorite type of contracts
>>/biz/thread/S29095594
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioJ23XAl2z0

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>>57779481
also relevant thread:
Sergey on the lex podcast talking about oracles being guardrails for AI
https://archived.moe/biz/thread/35532716
>>57779421
>oracles are gatekeepers

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>>57779545
>eric schmidt warns current AI guardrails not enough
https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2023/11/28/ex-google-ceo-warns-current-ai-guardrails-arent-enough-likened-development-to-nuclear-weapons/?sh=5e7c6cd9f84b
uhhh anyone else seeing a trend here? Chainlink powered AI guardrails incoming

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>>57778850
based thanks for being here fren
>>57778967
love you
>>57779033
checked
>>57779080
kek. This was Ari at ETH denver about 2 hours 25 mins ago on this live stream if you just want to hear him speak
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XocmSCC4Rz0
>>57779102
comfier with you here fren

>> No.57779751

>>57779365

I suspect that the calling card could be obscure enough to where the authorities don't realize they gave up pertinent information during the reporting. Things would simply evolve over time as the authorities try to limit what is known and the criminals get increasingly clever about their signals.

They would have to start reporting virtually nothing about the crimes.

Based Ari teaching people how to conduct decentralized organized crime via blockchain and AI solutions in a safe manner. Kekek

>> No.57779789

>>57779751

I feel like the criminal could even give a bounty of his fee to the first anonymous journalist who accurately reports the correct details of the theft in which the calling card is mentioned.

Something along those lines of course that idea probably needs fleshed about better. Where there is a will there is a way. Kek

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>>57779789
i can't wait to steal money for my honey badger bros it's gonna be sick

>> No.57779882

>>57779751
>>57779789

I.E. You'd have random employees, cops, or journalists just snapping pictures of the crime scene to upload to the contract en masse when no one is looking to try and secure the fee. Lmao

Journalists see reporting of crime and then rush to the scene to get more details. It would be similar to that movie with Jake Gyllenhaal "Nightcrawler".

The future is going to be fucking wild.

>> No.57779976

>>57779365
retard he literally said it's not possible yet, that's just an example to help people understand how it'll work.

>> No.57779994

>>57779751
>>57779789
>>57779882
it's actually all just going to be handled through deco. for example you could use deco to send a video of the crime. it would be cryptographically signed at the hardware level and verified with gps and other data. you can prove that you committed the crime with zero risk.

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>>57779365
>>57779751
i definitely think it would have to be more sophisticated than the Wet Bandits in Home Alone. I would be willing to be Ari knows exactly how it would work and is legally obligated to make it seem like
>its just like the movies, see Pink Panther guy left a glove with a P on it.

>> No.57780045

>>57778826
Koh-I-Noor means 'Mountain of Light'

>> No.57780066

Cringe incel thread. You missed another bull

>> No.57780087

>>57778602
weird he isn't double masking anymore doesnt he know were still in a mega-pandemic?

>> No.57780127

>57780066
Checked, what’s your date range?

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>>57780045
interesting

>> No.57780573

>>57779994
>it's actually all just going to be handled through deco. for example you could use deco to send a video of the crime. it would be cryptographically signed at the hardware level and verified with gps and other data. you can prove that you committed the crime with zero risk.

This would be a lot easier and also much more incriminating than a calling card if the video is discovered by authorities somehow.

Either way the whole thing is ridiculous. The Sovereign Individual book actually explained how state built organized mafias (governments) would begin to lose power to independently grown smaller organized crime groups through technology helping balance the playing field so to speak.

This is one manner in which it will happen.

>> No.57781205

>>57779070
based lpl kiddos poster how you doin based kiddo pools closed

>> No.57781213

>>57779080
This made me lol, and I think that means I have a soul

>> No.57781258

>>57779070
WHATS THIS FUCKING BASED LPL CHUDDIE KIDDO SHIT?

>> No.57781280

>>57779070
NO LPL POOLERS SEETHING RN LMAO

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