Is Kaspa really the next Bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.57653624]

I don’t know, it just gives me the warm and fuzzys knowing it’s not on any major exchanges, yet still a top 30 coin. Eventually Coinbase, Bitcoin and others are going to have to except the fact that they have to buy in fairly at retail price just like all us the rest of us. What will happen then? With what other coins has this scenario or a similar one played out?

[Anonymous No.57653761]

HODL?

[Anonymous No.57653792]

>>57653624
It's not the next Bitcoin because nothing can replace the 14 year head start in adoption that Bitcoin has, but it's still going to be bigger than people realize

[Anonymous No.57654163]

1-5 dollar top then dump to 20cents, this is the ada of this cycle, useless hyped premined trash.

[Anonymous No.57654440]

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[Anonymous No.57654618]

>>57653624
Does it actually solve the trilemma?

[Anonymous No.57654700]

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[Anonymous No.57654810]

>>57653624
No
>>57653761
No
>>57654618
Not in any meaningful way

[Anonymous No.57654851]

>>57654618
I think it grows at like 30 TB per year at this level of adoption. In the long run, it's eventually going to be a cloud stored on someone's computer. There's also like 30 million KASPA stuck on tradeogre, which if ever dumped... well it'll put the price back a considerable way.

[Anonymous No.57654863]

>>57654163
not premined
>>57654618
yes
>>57654851
it doesn't need archival nodes.

[Anonymous No.57654928]

>>57654863
Cope

[Anonymous No.57655005]

>>57654928
cool argument

[Anonymous No.57655026]

>>57655005
Seethe

[Anonymous No.57655032]

>>57655005
KASbaggie ngmi with your jewish scam token kek. Reminder that "solving" the trilemma literally doesn't matter and is not special at all in 2024. It's been done, baggie.

[Anonymous No.57655191]

>>57654851
>I think it grows at like 30 TB per year at this level of adoption
>WAHHHHHHHHHHH Why does Bitcoin only have a new block every 10 minutes?
This is why, you retarded fucks. This is also why we needed a layer 2 and MUH BIG BLOCKS was not the correct answer.

[Anonymous No.57655204]

Every cycle the top 10 changes up, Kas and Tao will be top 10 this run.

[Anonymous No.57656046]

>>57655191
I dont want to pay fees or depend on some centralised L2

[Anonymous No.57656114]

>>57655032
It hasn't been done before KAS.
No PoW = no trilemma solved
>>57655191
False. BTC has a slow block rate becsuse if it had a fast block rate like KAS, the number of stale blocks would go to infinity and the security model would break down. Kaspa doesn't need archival nodes. Kaspa's developers have published brilliant papers and mathematical proofs showing how it does not affect the security of the ledger at all. This is why it continues to moon and you continue to cope about it

[Anonymous No.57656130]

>>57655032
>calling people "baggies" for a coin that keeps smashing new ATHs since its launch
/biz/ users are dumb

[Anonymous No.57656132]

>>57653624
>>57653761
>>57654618

No
>>57654163

Yes

[Anonymous No.57656138]

>>57655204
Not even close. Pump and dump influencer coins

[Anonymous No.57656153]

>>57654618
https://nicholas-sismil.medium.com/how-to-solve-the-blockchain-trilemma-a-blockdag-and-nakamoto-consensus-friendship-4573625c1697
From the ex lead researcher at Binance.
Don't listen to the people on here who were too lazy to research this coin. They are coping for the fact that they were told about this and still missed out

[Anonymous No.57656216]

>>57654851
>There's also like 30 million KASPA stuck on tradeogre
30 million KAS isn't enough to crash the market lmao. That's less than 0.2% of the supply. But it doesn't matter anyway because there's no Kaspa on Tradeogre. That's why you can't withdraw.

[Anonymous No.57656264]

Can you retards stop buying? I need my next paycheck to buy more kaspa before it goes up again

[Anonymous No.57656265]

>>57653624
Proof of work is outdated trash.

ETH will replace Bitcoin. Bitcoin will be irrelevant eventually and ETH will be #1

[Anonymous No.57656303]

>>57656265
What the fuck happened to ETHs triple halvening anyone remember that

[Anonymous No.57656332]

>>57656265
have fun getting stuck in the shitshow of a long range attack at the next DAO attack type controversy

I predict it will revolve around the war in Israel or Ukraine

[Anonymous No.57656550]

Same old stuff from you guys. I'd hate to be stuck holding this bag in the future.

[Anonymous No.57656615]

>>57656550
Same old thing you've been saying since sub-1c.
Anyone who's researched this coin has never been worried about any catastrophic dumps happening, because in addition to solving the trilemma it was fair launched, with a deflationary release schedule like BTC's, and has one of the healthiest supply distributions in all of crypto. People on here are so used to coins being preallocated and 50% controlled by insiders that they've forgotten what real cryptocurrencies are like.

[Anonymous No.57656664]

Yes, it’s the next BTC but won’t surpass BTC in value. It will replace Ethereum in the far future, but at minimum it will be a permanenrt fixture in the top 10. It will never dump to 20 cents like some wishful losers are saying.

[Anonymous No.57656687]

>>57656153
what's funniest is that they're coping when it is still extremely cheap. just buy it you retards - KAS looks like the strongest alt coin headed into this run

[Anonymous No.57656703]

>>57654863
100% premined
worse, they pruned the blockchain
this thing has a randomly selected genesis block

i regret not buying now it may pump to $1 im still not buying this thing is dangerous and ran by kikes

[Anonymous No.57656714]

>>57656703
this is why I'm staying away
plus its a speedmine that will lose all its hashpower before the end of the decade after everyone realizes nobody actually uses crypto for anything

[Anonymous No.57656726]

>>57656714
>>57656703
Good morning sers

[Anonymous No.57657840]

>>57654163
>1-5 dollar top
So for me, worst case is $50k best case is $250k. How is that bad anon?

[Anonymous No.57657852]

>>57653624
vaporware ghost chain

truly the kadena of this cycle

[Anonymous No.57657921]

>>57656687

This, it's powerful as fuck and consistently so.

[Anonymous No.57658085]

>>57653792
My thoughts as well. I expect it to be a Eth contender if smart contracts and all the fundamentals turn out to be solid and strong in few years.
BTC will remain the gold standard of crypto for purely financial and headstart reasons

[Anonymous No.57658102]

>>57653624
Does Kaspa have any big name on board? Name 1 person that is well known in the tech world supporting Kaspa

[Anonymous No.57658133]

>>57658102
The guy who invented dag is onboard as the guy who invented Kaspa

[Anonymous No.57658166]

>>57658102
Look up Yonatan Sompolinsky and how many top crypto projects have cited his work and mentioned him by name. It's literally created by one of the big names in crypto

[Anonymous No.57658179]

>>57658102

I spoke with Coinbase support, harassing them to add Kaspa. His response sort of implied it may be under a preliminary review.

[Anonymous No.57658181]

[Anonymous No.57658208]

>>57658166
1. he's a jew
2. his entire career is in crypto
Think I'll skip on this one

[Anonymous No.57658217]

>>57658208
How to profit in crypto
1. Invest in Jews
2. Invest in crypto careerist Jews

[Anonymous No.57658230]

>>57658208
Yeah he was writing papers about Bitcoin's security model all the way back in 2011... that's the kind of person I want running a crypto project. His career was in academia but his work has just been cited by the industry a lot because it's valuable and useful

[Anonymous No.57658264]

>>57658208
>big brain math and cryptography phd spends his career in crypto is bad
??????

[Anonymous No.57658265]

>>57654863
Yes it needs the full history, for proof of existence, document, proof of funds not based on some complicated cryptography. 30 tb per year at the very least. Scammer

[Anonymous No.57658281]

>>57656114
>>57658265

[Anonymous No.57658288]

>>57658265
nope, it doesn't need any of that. It's meant to be money. Money doesn't need that (and hasn't needed it for thousands of years).

[Anonymous No.57658289]

>>57658265
Kaspa isn't a proof of existence layer, it's a consensus layer for a PoW digital cash system. "Proof of funds" is baked into the design. Proof of history is not important to p2p cash

[Anonymous No.57658299]

I dont care what the fuck it does, I'll just buy a stack and dump in a year hopefully it goes up.

[Anonymous No.57658303]

>>57658288
This. Gold doesn't have proof of history and it's still hard, sound money just like Kaspa is

[Anonymous No.57658312]

>>57658299
If I were that tall I’d hate life

[Anonymous No.57658349]

>>57658264
No career outside crypto is a red flag. It's like trying to shill Sergay Nazarov. Same vibes. Jewish academia means jack shit.

[Anonymous No.57658369]

>>57658349
He's a computer scientist/cryptographer who specializes in the exact subjects that are needed to create something like Kaspa... legitimately one of the most qualified people on earth to develop this project. You're reaching too hard

[Anonymous No.57658407]

>>57658349
>Nazarov and his family immigrated to New York in the 1990s, where he later earned a bachelor’s degree in philosophy and management at New York University
Yeah management and philo bachelor is the same as math and crypto phd

[Anonymous No.57658743]

[Anonymous No.57658838]

>>57658289
>>57658288
Absolute proof of history is mandatory for any money, for store of value
Scammers

[Anonymous No.57658890]

>>57658838
>Absolute proof of history is mandatory for any money
It absolutely isn't, and hasn't been a part of any money system in history except for btc, which includes it as an incidental side effect of its design. It's 100% not needed for money and thousands of years of history prove it. Gold and silver have no proof of history and they worked very well as money for thousands of years.

[Anonymous No.57658892]

>>57658838
enter the quadlemma

[Anonymous No.57659212]

>>57658892
I also want Monero-like privacy, would that be a quintlemma or not?

[Anonymous No.57659238]

>>57659212
I'm hoping that there will one day be a cryptonight-esque Kaspa fork that implements similar privacy features to Monero. I'd buy the hell out of that coin

[Anonymous No.57659307]

>>57653624
This is also what happened with SHIB, and before that, Dogecoin. Dogecoin it was easy to acquire in large quantities cheap, before the run. SHIB, it all happened so fast. But you can see precisely when those exchanges listed, and price explosion (them setting them minimum for their trading bots, to keep the floor high)

But just remember, it's their market researchers job to identify projects in the market. In this particular instance, I actually believe that a complete radio silence on Kaspa from the big exchanges is a very good thing: they don't want to draw attention to retail until their bags are packed.

[Anonymous No.57659322]

>>57656687
have you seen Depin? you must be sleeping on something big. this trend is bang on.

[Anonymous No.57659337]

>>57659322
I'll stick my cock depin your asshole faggot

[Anonymous No.57659364]

>>57659307
the moment it gets listed on binance it will go x5 minimum

[Anonymous No.57659377]

>>57653624
Fuck kaspa. have you seen sui?

[Anonymous No.57659411]

>>57659337
keep your cock to yourself you dump cock sucking faggot

[Anonymous No.57659458]

>>57659322
research shows that the number of projects leveraging this will continue to rise.
so far, the likes of NUklai, helium and metablox are looking good

[Anonymous No.57659494]

Im on board the KAS train CHOO CHOO Motherfuckers

[Anonymous No.57659547]

>>57659377
this might not be able to beat kaspa but so far, i think they are moving in the right direction
with projects like Hydro building on it

[Anonymous No.57659607]

>>57659307
brah
Kaspa has had a great run this cycle but most of it is priced in, maybe a $1.00+ kaspa eventually with an eventual coinbase and binance listing, easily see it hitting 10x from here
Don't compare it to DOGE of SHIB, memes that had crazy runs and are much more understandable to retail
Retail is not going to buy Kaspa, not going to buy your bags like they do with memes
Lets face it, Kaspa is a vaporwrhare chain that won't stand the test of time. Good community and alot crypto youtubers shilling it, congrats but don't get it twisted

[Anonymous No.57659620]

>>57659607
>Retail is not going to buy Kaspa, not going to buy your bags like they do with memes
Retail is absolutely going to FOMO into Kaspa because "it's the next Bitcoin" and "look at how much it's gone up!" $3 minimum

[Anonymous No.57659629]

>>57659620
How many times have they been burned on the "it's the next Bitcoin" narrative?

[Anonymous No.57659632]

Yes (no).

>>57653792
KASPA is the new link in the sense every /biz/tard is sucking it off right now.

[Anonymous No.57659643]

>>57659629
Probably none yet because it's their first cycle and normies never learn anyway. BlockDAG technology is going to stand the test of time btw, maybe not Kaspa itself (we'll see) but definitely the innovations it's put forth in PoW will live on

[Anonymous No.57659652]

>>57659632
Kaspa doesn't have a Sergey who preallocated himself half the total supply and regularly dumps on bagholders

[Anonymous No.57659711]

>>57659652
How can sergey fund all those 25yo college coed recent grads with their double majors in buad and hr? Don't be a dick, anon.

[Anonymous No.57659741]

>>57659607
the only thing comparable was the "fair launch blah blah blah". People will get excited about ANYTHING if they are told they'll get rich. Which is literally the narrative of all memecoins (purely profit focus, not product). Memecoins don't appeal to normies because they are based on memes, or cute, or whatever. They buy memecoins to get rich and make money.

The basis for the comparison regarding exchange listings is due to the original distribution method. Mining or 100% purchased from contract are effectively the only real ways to prop up the value of a coin/token without VC funding.

[Anonymous No.57659766]

>>57659620
>Retail is absolutely going to FOMO into Kaspa because "it's the next Bitcoin" and "look at how much it's gone up!" $3 minimum
nah
Every vaporware chain says that. You are just going to get people rekt with that bullshit marketing. I know you are looking for the exit liquidity and retarded retail but you actually trigger their senses that this it's a scam and turn them off comparing to Bitcoin. Other chains and crypto community in general will expose you for saying stupid shit like that. Target on your back
Memes are much more digestible and unapologetic that they don't have any utility

[Anonymous No.57659768]

>>57659643
I can't think of any example where the first mover advantage in tech hasn't secured them their position. At this point, everything that did it first, is still the most valuable asset of any copycats.

[Anonymous No.57659788]

>>57659766
You know nothing about Kaspa. It's not vaporware. It already has a working product which is technologically light-years ahead of every other PoW network. Sorry you missed out and were too lazy to do the bare minimum research into this coin. But at least learn a bit about it before spouting off.

[Anonymous No.57659845]

>>57659788
>You know nothing about Kaspa. It's not vaporware. It already has a working product which is technologically light-years ahead of every other PoW network. Sorry you missed out and were too lazy to do the bare minimum research into this coin. But at least learn a bit about it before spouting off.
dude hate to break it to you, you obviously drink the kool aid but it is certified vaporware, nothing innovative about it, no first mover advantage. dime a dozen. I have given you credit in the previous posts but you are in for a rude awakening
>Verification not required

[Anonymous No.57659855]

>>57659845
I know that you knew about Kaspa when it was 3 cents... and you had people try to explain is significance to you back then, and you dismissed it for the same midwit reasons you do now, and now you double down as you watch it continue to blow past ATH after ATH.
It's the world's first blockDAG. Get used to hearing about it because it's not going away.

[Anonymous No.57659915]

>>57659855
Stop carrying on. You give the coin a bad name.

[Anonymous No.57659927]

>>57659607
1 dollar kaspa is perfect for my stack bros

[Anonymous No.57659928]

>>57659915
Nothing anyone says on /biz/ is going to affect the price of kaspa dude. Do some fucking research on this coin and either be a part of it or cry later

[Anonymous No.57659942]

>>57659915
It's all true though

[Anonymous No.57659954]

>>57659855
Listen, I respect the conviction. Like I said, Kaspa has a good community, devs with pedigree, proven track record, and die hard kaspa maxis. All the things you want for your chain especially entering the bull run
It is successful and will continue to be but the upside just isn't there for the rest of the cycle. Juice not worth the squeeze, maybe a 10x from here. Alot of crypto is going to do that. That's it, better options out there

[Anonymous No.57659960]

>>57659855
These retarded niggers don't deserve anymore spoon feeding about kaspa

[Anonymous No.57659996]

>>57659954
That's fine, if you're not in Kaspa by now then it's too late to make life changing gains without a 5-figure up front investment.
My first buy was for under $0.005, so another 10x from here will be great for me. I really do think it will happen. I think a lot of us are just feeling vindicated because we saw this playing out from the beginning.

[Anonymous No.57660116]

>>57659996
>>57659954
BTW I'm not a maxi who plans on never selling or anything like that. I have most of my portfolio in btc, 20% low cap gems, and I plan on selling 90% of everything by the end of 2025. I may be bullish on kaspa but I'm not completely retarded. Get in early and sell the top. Good luck finding the next gem

[Anonymous No.57660148]

jewish scam

[Anonymous No.57660174]

>>57660148
what isn't?

[Anonymous No.57660218]

>>57659996
>>57660116
congrats, well played, you will do well, same to you

[Anonymous No.57660287]

Fucking sad how biz is sleeping on this.
Its the best coin outhere and it's pretty visible to anyone with a bit of pattern recognition that this is going to replace eth in 2y in every parameter including mcap.

[Anonymous No.57660289]

>>57658890
To validate for certain the funds you need proof of history scammer faggot, can't even make the difference with proof of existence

[Anonymous No.57660324]

>>57654618
Avalanche did and no one cared

[Anonymous No.57660334]

>>57660289
>To validate for certain the funds you need proof of history scammer faggot
Not true... you can mathematically confirm the validity of current balances without storing all the past history. Gigabrained math goes into doing it in a secure and verifiable manner and it works well. Kaspa nodes basically run at a constant size forever and don't bloat endlessly like blockchains that don't implement a similar feature. It's good for decentralization.

[Anonymous No.57660384]

>>57660334
Stop arguing they don't deserve kaspa.

[Anonymous No.57660402]

>>57660334
Pruned nodes have been a thing forever it's not really a flex
That guy is retarded though

[Anonymous No.57660456]

>>57660384
Yeah You're right I've posted too much in this thread anyway. I'm out.

[Anonymous No.57661150]

>>57660402
>>57660384
>>57660334
Scammers. Why do you think pruned nodes aren't very widespread in bitcoin? You need to be able to validate the full history, and if you need 'big brain' calculation for it that's another way to tell trust me bro, fucking scammers, when the full history isn't there to validate that the math does add up how do you even know there's no chicanery over the long term, and that's without accounting for crypto assumptions which we have to investigate, do you think it's normal? It's not
Scammers

[Anonymous No.57661448]

>>57656264

[Anonymous No.57661505]

[Anonymous No.57661510]

>>57661150
>Scammers. Why do you think pruned nodes aren't very widespread in bitcoin?
SPV nodes have been a thing for a long time
You need to be able to validate the full history, and if you need 'big brain' calculation for it that's another way to tell trust me bro
No, trusting math and cryptography is not the same as trusting someone's word. That's literally the entire basis of crypto to begin with lol. It's all open source either show an actual vulnerability in the code or stfu.

[Anonymous No.57661576]

[Anonymous No.57662018]

>>57661510
Do you have the knowledge to verify that the numbers you're seeing comes from a a valid mathematical method with no fraud possible like in monero due to how opaque the crypto is? I don't because I'm not a mathematician like normal people and if you can't know it clearly it's a big problem, as well as extra complexity which is a very big negative w40mnh

[Anonymous No.57662043]

>>57662018
This isn't a valid argument. 99.9% of people lack the knowledge to verify that the math and cryptography used by Bitcoin or any other crypto is valid, but that doesn't mean it isn't. It's open source and cryptographers, adversaries, and experts from all over the world who have more knowledge than me can look over it over for holes. If I was only limited to crypto where I actually 100% understood the math that was going on, I and pretty much everyone else would be limited from every single crypto in existence including btc

[Anonymous No.57662128]

>>57662018
>>57662043
To add to this, I also think it is reasonable to trust in Monero's cryptography by now, even if - like me - you're not an expert. I just don't think anyone could get away with fake math bullshittery for years like that. Other math people would notice.

[Anonymous No.57662261]

>>57662043
Bitcoin is very simple too understand and verify if you accept that simple premises are true, kaspa is very different as you saw because you couldn't even answer my questions, which is a problem because kaspa is more complex, complexity is a terrible negative and that's a negative bitcoin doesn't have

>>57662128
Not surprising you say that, one day you'll learn that simple systems are superior

[Anonymous No.57662295]

>>57662261
BTC is way too complex for 99% of people to understand. You need a computer science background to understand what something like a Merkle tree is and how Bitcoin uses it and to be able to check whether all of the premises of Bitcoin's cryptography are valid or not. You're oversimplifying it way too much.
Kaspa's prunality proofs are like 2 pages long. They're too complex for me because I'm not a computer scientist. But that doesn't mean they're too complex to be used and relied upon by the world. That's a complete non-sequitur.
Bitcoin is way more complex than gold, but it's better. This argument is bad.

[Anonymous No.57662382]

>KASPA genesis proof
https://github.com/kaspagang/kaspad-py-explorer/blob/main/src/genesis_proof.ipynb

[Anonymous No.57662395]

Security, scalability, decentralization, history, simplicity... kas doesn't solve the quintemma

[Anonymous No.57662457]

>>57656153
admittedly I'm a layman, so I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around the technicals. But why can't bitcoin just implement the protocol changes discussed in that article?

I've been in the crypto space to have heard the same song and dance thousands of times before. Yeah, yeah, this new coin is finally going to kill btc, sure. It and the rest of the 100s of other btc killers.

[Anonymous No.57662511]

>>57662457
Bitcoin's never going to implement a radical change like that. It only hard forks to fix bugs. And the world needs it to be reliable and stay the way that it is.
Kaspa isn't going to kill BTC, it's just here to bring true scalability to proof of work, finally.