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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>57568613

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IT'S HAPPENING, MATES!!!

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>>57622331

>> No.57622376
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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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I want price to go up, buhuu (I didn't even add tears in my prompt, just Monero)

>> No.57622393
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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only bullion shop
https://monerometals.com/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Gramazon #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Smackers
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/yjn3DPmn


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>> No.57622427
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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>>57614247

That sounds like a terrible idea, you're literally hurting yourself

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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Moneroちゃん

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loli

>> No.57622709

>>57622381
>>57622435
>ai 'art'
I truly hate this form of goyslop.

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>welcome to Terrorist General
Heh, that's what the thread should be called. Better sell

>> No.57622751

Thoughts on the RandomX ASIC? Does it provide a better value than Ryzens or is there some jew-jutsu beyond the raw watt/hash ratio (the ASIC wins out in €/hash)

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>>57622751
>the RandomX ASIC

Its not an ASIC.

>> No.57622877

>>57622783
I see, you seem to be correct, though the technical significance of the difference is mostly lost on me.
Is there any reason hindering adaption then, no matter whether the box is an ASIC or RSIC? As it has both high-end and value consumer CPUs beaten in H/$.

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HELP I WANT TO CUM DEEP INSIDE MONEROCHAN VERY DEEP WHAT DO

>> No.57623070

>>57622381
stop eating goyslop anon eat kosher foods!

>> No.57623155

is 100 xmr enogh

>> No.57623164

>>57623155
Thats a lot of monero anon I only just hold like 3 moneros

>> No.57623182

>>57622331
If I go all in on Monero will I need to wait till and bear market to see the rewards?

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>>57623182
No, go away.

>> No.57623302

>>57622877
You can get similar H/s/W numbers with ARM desktops or super high core count AMD for a lot less money.

>> No.57623453

>>57623155
enough for what

>> No.57623460

>>57623453
Committing terrorism

>> No.57623471

Will it ever go up? I can't afford to lose any more money.

>> No.57623488

>>57623460
these past couple of years have shown that you just need a 0.24 XMR ($30) chinese drone for that

>> No.57623496

>>57623488
We got him boys. Off to prison

>> No.57623500

>>57623496
i dindu nuffin its the war videos

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Reporting in
##################################
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.57623724

Why are you ignoring me? Is this a wrong thread to ask questions about monero?

>> No.57624066

>>57623471
>>57623724
It will bro, it will.

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>>57623070
What's the most XMR dish?

>> No.57624453

>>57623164
keep going stacklet
>>57623453
to make a zillion doll hairs?

>> No.57625426

>>57623182
>If I go all in on Monero will I need to wait till and bear market to see the rewards?

Spending XMR is very rewarding.

>> No.57625520
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Ideally only 10% of your crypto assets should be in XMR, seeing as its just for buying things. The rest ought to be in BTC, ETH and some crap you think will randomly pump.

>> No.57625525

>>57624093
The nothing burger

>> No.57625538

>>57625520
>90% of your assets should be surveilled and coopted by the WEF
No, thanks.

>> No.57625623

>>57625525
underrated post

>> No.57625668

>>57622436
>If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable
Bitcoin is 52K

>> No.57626770

Why this and not Zcash?

>> No.57626794

Feature suggestion for GOG to accept Monero: https://www.gog.com/wishlist/site#search=monero

We got 6 votes in 2 days. Let's get it higher! We've got 20 posters in here already.

Also 0.05 XMR to the best GOG + Monero-chan image edit I see. Preference for the bustier Monero-chan versions. I'll consider ONLY the first 3 unique users that post an image as a reply to me.

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>>57626770
1. Monero has a much larger anonymity set so for equivalent privacy tech Monero keeps you safer.
2. Zcash is not private by default and exchanges like Binance are actually insisting on protocol-level changes to reject incoming private transactions. Enjoy never cashing out.
3. Zcash developers are complete freaks which is a red flag for software quality. Monero developers are either giant weeaboos (the main SeraiDEX guy named his handle after Sword Art Online) or completely anonymous, which is a much stronger indicator for software quality.
4. Monero is moving to full zk membership proofs soon along with some other changes (Seraphis) which will give Monero a tech advantage over Zcash even in the optimal case for both chains.
5. Monero-chan is cute.

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>>57626796
>SaO
cringe

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>>57626770
y not both
>>57626796
y not both - i see you based maxi, and agree, but we need many options for many situations and use cases
>>57623471
yes

>> No.57627312

>>57626794
>Feature suggestion for GOG to accept Monero:
What if we get Epic Games (the creators of Fort Night) to bring Monero back since they already added it one day:

https://cointelegraph.com/news/epic-games-fortnite-store-starting-to-accept-monero-was-accidental-ceo-confirms

>> No.57627376

>>57627297
zectrannies have bent over for the regulators. they have shown no backbone in the face of getting heat from them. so, fuck ztrash.
>>57626796
imagine burying your nose deep up that ass and taking a SNIFFFFFFF

>> No.57627439

>>57627312
>https://cointelegraph.com/news/epic-games-fortnite-store-starting-to-accept-monero-was-accidental-ceo-confirms
WTF, how do you accidentally accept monero? I guess they thought it was some latin american fiat currency when their provider gave them a list of potential currencies to accept. "Oh, yes, Monero, must be what those Peruguayans use."

Who did they accept it through? And how do you even suggest to them to start accepting it again?

Side note: the fact that Epic is now known for Fortnight is amusing to me, when they've made Jazz Jackrabbit, Jill of the Jungle and mfing Unreal.

>> No.57627449

bros I'm in a shithole and I just logged into an old Monero GUI wallet and it seemingly works but it has to download 425,000 blocks and it's doing it at a pace of like barely 500 per minute or so when it works at all, it's stalled for a while now and then the daemon blocks also start being synced and long story short it aint happening. I see my balance already but I guess that's the balance from 425k blocks ago, but I haven't used the wallet in any way since. I don't know if this is going to be done in time because my connection breaks down every now and then and then the sync kinda gets interrupted and it's just not working. Is there an easier or better way? Can I use another wallet and import the private key instead? I just have to do one transaction for my VPN bros

Or maybe uninstall and reinstall? I'm hoping that maybe then the entire blockchain can be downloaded in some compressed way and I just have to sync to the recent blocks. Or does the whole blockchain have to be synced regardless?

>> No.57627503

>>57627449
Upgrade the wallet software. Open the wallet again with latest version of the software, find a remote node to use (https://moneroworld.com/#nodes)) and let your wallet sync. You don't have to keep the blockchain locally if you use a remote node but there are some privacy implications. But your wallet still needs to scan the blocks that it hasn't seen since last time for txs that are yours. I don't know if there's a command to tell the wallet to assume everything is synced and just let you make a tx, maybe someone else knows.

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>>57626770
>Why this and not Zcash?

Zcash is a punchline in the privacy space, and for good reason. Technicals aside, they've developed a very submissive culture that glorifies compliance and regulator ballwashing, the recent deployment of a cucked new address type to stay listed on Binance being a prime example.

Just ugh.

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>> No.57629710

>>57627002
>>57626796
>named his handle after Sword Art Online
>SaO
He's a 20yo old zoomer, it's normal for them. I enjoyed his story about getting into cryptocurrency. He used it to receive money for his work at 15 when he couldn't get a PayPal.

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reporting in

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>>57628061
I'll never understand the thought process behind this. Why even study cryptocurrency and privacy tech if you're like this. Might as well just work for the government directly. It's not like Monero is even illegal and they commit a crime by not cucking out, they just want to appear "friendly" and "good" when they don't need to.

>> No.57629936

>>57629743
They're greedy cunts and profiting from the submission.

>> No.57629978

>>57629726
how did you get this photo of me and my family

>> No.57630345

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57630408
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>>57629710
Picrel is the only good thing from that anime. Trust me, I'm an expert, over 500 series watched.

>> No.57630463

>>57630345
Hmm weird I'm pretty sure I was satoshi

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>>57630408

>> No.57630689

RandomX V2 when?
https://github.com/tevador/RandomX/pull/274

>> No.57630704

The selling never stops. People are getting rid of their moneros because they are useless if you can't cash out.

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>>57630704
>mfw monero is entering a long discount period

>> No.57630760

>>57630753
DCA bros eating good nothing wrong with having reserves

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>pic related
>one of the greatest redistributions of wealth in history

>> No.57631479

>>57630704
Why do people think you can't cash out if the KYC exchanges delist XMR?

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>>57630463
>Hmm weird I'm pretty sure I was satoshi
Nah, this is satoshi.

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Feb 29 comes the freshest installment of Captain Blackbeard Radio! The finest sounds around for the finest digital cash aficionado

>> No.57631564

>>57631479
Because if you can't cash our large sums of XMR quickly, it cannot be used for anything expensive. And then there is no need for it to ever be above $30.

>> No.57631892

>>57631564
>Gay fud
You know, you're not as convincing as you think you are. But your continued incompetence is surpassed only by the fact that someone, somewhere thinks your retarded takes are worth it.

>> No.57631920

>>57631564
>Because if you can't cash our large sums of XMR quickly
haha atomic swaps go brrrr

>> No.57631933

>>57631564
>if you can't cash our large sums of XMR quickly, it cannot be used for anything expensive
You mean it cannot be used for anything expensive quickly. You can still swap for another currency and cash that out can't you? Or cash out over a week in smaller increments using localmonero, no?

>> No.57631944

>>57631920
Do they existing from XMR to something else? I've seen the reverse only.

>> No.57631999
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>>57630704
>>57631564
>if you can't cash our large sums of XMR quickly, it cannot be used for anything expensive.

>> No.57632377
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57632377

Newfag here. What was Moneros dominance like on the DNMs when it was at its ATH? Was BTC still the dominant form of payment or was XMR already the preferred use of payment?

If XMRs dominance on the darknet markets has only increased since then, wouldn’t it be safe to assume that its currently being undervalued?

>> No.57632635
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57632635

Why is Binance a big deal for Monero? Kraken has much easier KYC, literally just upload your ID with no fuss or facial recognizion stuff at all. And they never ever asks for source of funds.

>> No.57632713

>>57632377
Monero eclipsed Bitcoin as the primary form of payment roughly since the bear market started.

>> No.57632904

>>57632635
>Why is Binance a big deal for Monero?
It's like 50% of all crypto volume and thus has a shitload of liquidity. Monero will survive Binance delisting, most other coins wouldn't.

>> No.57634229

bump

>> No.57634251
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>>57630704
>People are getting rid of their moneros because they are useless if you can't cash out.

Fucking retard.

1. the entire point of crypto is it being an alternative to the existing fiat system.
2. cashing out to fiat is antithetical to #1
3. you can't cash out without the government's permission. You can spend XMR without the government's permission.

>> No.57634356
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57634356

>>57631564
>Because if you can't cash our large sums of XMR quickly, it cannot be used for anything expensive.

lol XMR is already being used for multi-million dollar cocaine deals, numbskull. Try again.

>And then there is no need for it to ever be above $30.

lol there is no need for Bitcoin to be above $5 given the negligible utility it provides in 2024: such a shitty medium of exchange that real-world commerce is abandoning it, such a shitty store of value that stablecoins continue to be necessary, nobody actually NEEDS Bitcoin anymore, its only bought to be sold later.

>> No.57634682

>>57634251
>>57634356
You need high liquidity on and off ramps to move wealth into an alternative system. The only people who want to start over from zero with a new system are the poor who have no assets anyways. To gain real traction you need wealthy participants who can move in and out of your system without taking a big haircut.

>> No.57634789
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>>57634682

Any solution that requires the State's approval or tolerance e.g. CEXs is not permissionless and is therefore untenable.

And liquidity on DEXs isn't set in stone and should grow over time as evermore users enter the economy. Rome wasn't built in a day.

>> No.57634954
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57634954

We're going to have to get her a bigger hat.

>> No.57635046

>>57634682
>for [thing] to be successful, [thing] must first be successful
brain damage

>> No.57635086

>>57634789
Permissioned systems are part of living in a society. Even a Dex is permissioned by your ISP, the server provider, domain registrar, developers. Online marketplaces are permissioned by the owner, sellers, the postal service. And 99.9% of people are fine with it because permissioned systems are more efficient and cheaper. Every solution you go for will be permissioned by someone and if it becomes a whole alternative economy that someone will become equivalent to the state.

>> No.57635100

>>57635046
When Argentina or Venezuela imploded they didn't all restart from zero. They moved into better forms of money that were widely accessible like the us dollar.

>> No.57635164
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>>57635086
>Permissioned systems are part of living in a society.

ugh. We got ourselves another compliance cuck, boys.

>Even a Dex is permissioned by your ISP, the server provider, domain registrar, developers.

DEXs run over the darknet, asshole, you know, the same anonymized network that also platforms CP and highly illegal drug markets.

>> No.57635258

Serious question, what's an amount to hold to put you in the top 10%, 1%, 0.1% of holders, etc.? Is there any way to know?

>> No.57635270

>>57635258
no, because it is anon :)

>> No.57635325

>>57635258
https://localmonero.co/blocks/richlist

>> No.57635406

>>57635100
>[thing] failed, so people moved to alternative [thing] with outsized market share
welp, I guess monero is finished. time to stack the us dollar, monerosisters.

>> No.57635891

Is there anything like stacker news but for monero? Where you can earn xmr to post?

>> No.57636955

>>57635891
there isn't yet. it would be cool to see one

>> No.57637277

>>57635258
you could estimate it by comparing to similar projects that run on an open block chain. The distribution will be similar between coins I'd imagine

>> No.57637282

How come general is moving slow? Did terrorists get sent to prison for holding monero?

>> No.57637352

>>57637282

Yes.

>> No.57637376

xmr/btc is like 8 year low now
>he didn't buy 8 year low

>> No.57637596

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57638049
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57638049

>mfw people say xmr is complicated for normal people
Just explained it to my sister and she's already set up and mining.

>> No.57638067

>>57638049
Is she single?

>> No.57638383
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>>57638067
Yes, but she looks like this.

>> No.57638508
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>>57638383

Anybody that stunning and brave should consider going all in on Zcash.

>> No.57639262
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57639262

>Monero isn't an investment. I bought it with the understanding my wealth would decrease.

>> No.57639263

>>57637352
I knew it

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>>57639262
>bitcoin gongo up

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>>57639262

>> No.57640318

>>57639604
your neck on the rope gongo down

>> No.57640685
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57640685

I've just paid for an atellerie shell with monero wagmi

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>> No.57642610

>>57640685
based if true

>> No.57644117

good morning, I hate moonfags.

>> No.57644131

monero is dead or should i invest

>> No.57644142

>>57644131
its totally gonna moon bro spend your life savings bro its totally moooning do you want it to moon without you to the moon moon like gme dont miss out

>> No.57644191
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57644191

I'm all but certain Bitcoin was created by the CIA and DARPA to help transition the masses to CBDCs and ensnare "criminals" like Ross Ulbricht along the way. Look at the recent Bitcoin ETF approval and now Elizabeth Warren commemorating Satoshi Nakamoto. Governments love Bitcoin and surveillance coins because of their transparent ledgers, and why shouldn't they? Once chain analysis takes off it will be foolish to use NFTs like ether as cash.

Monero's delistings from CEXs are a good sign for where the currency stands in the eyes of the federalies. The question is can governments take down XMR via 51% attack? It would seem doable if they cared enough, two years ago the surge in MineXMR hashrate may have been a test run.

Which leads to my next question-does the CIA like Monero enough not to destroy it? Apparently the FBI used XMR to conduct a sting operation, but it would be useful for all black budget operations. I think it comes down to whether the elimination of mainstream on-and-off ramps is enough to deter the public from adopting Monero. If the plebs can't access it, then it's free to be used by the elite, which is the elite's ideal scenario.

Who would want to accept KYC-coins through atomic swaps at that point? XMR and functional privacy coins will become scarce as hell.

>> No.57644212

Best way to swap all of my BTC to XMR?

>> No.57644401

>>57644212
In terms of liquidity probably a CEX that lets you withdraw XMR. In terms of privact atomic swaps on Samourai.

>> No.57645154

>>57644212
https://trocador.app
https://orangefren.com

both have their own .onion URLs for you to conduct your biz over Tor Browser.

Make sure you store your XMR on your own wallet, preferably on a Feather Wallet stored in encrypted persistent storage of a TailsOS USB stick.

>> No.57645176

So is monero the new gme? Seems price going down is based. Are we owning libtards somehow?

>> No.57645203

>>57645176
>Are we owning libtards somehow?
We are owning the jews. Monero is the final solution to the taxman question.

>> No.57645321

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57645335

>>57645321
Hmm odd. Pretty sure I'm Satoshi. Do you have any evidence? No? Guess I'm Satoshi now

>> No.57645423
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>>57645335
Meet me at block 100103 and say that in my face!

>> No.57645664
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Man, looking at other ecosystems is bizarre right now. Chains that haven't had serious development in years are randomly pumping in USD terms. Miners are closed source and often bit rotting. I was looking for real alpha but it's all just fucking garbage. If Efferiums can fix their scaling/gas bottleneck 99% of these L1 projects are going to shrivel up and die. Monero is like a decade ahead of these clowns.

>> No.57645687

>>57645664
>randomly pumping in USD terms.
aka wash trading. Nothing is this clownworld casino is real anymore.

>> No.57645691
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57645691

>>57645423
I'm here. Don't see you. Odd.
Hey look I just signed it. You'll screen shot it when you get here right?

>> No.57645712
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57645712

>>57639678
>literally proofing his point

>> No.57645763
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>>57645691
You probably went to the block on your stupid gay ass fake fork chain

>> No.57645769

>>57645763
Um no I went on the monero chain which is why you can't see me
>there is no monero chain anon
Bluepilled

>> No.57645832
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>>57645769
Kek

>> No.57645929
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>>57645664
Closed source miners? What the fuck? Is this common?

>> No.57645945

>>57645712
esl detected

>> No.57646054

>>57645929
Sadly yes, almost every CPU/GPU miner is a blob to prevent people from patching out dev fees.

>> No.57646062

EYES ON THE PRIZE:

> SERAPHIS
> JAMTIS
> FULL MEMBERSHIP PROOFS

MONERO IS THE FINAL SOLUTION TO THE TAXMAN QUESTION.

>> No.57646079
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57646079

>>57646054
That's insane. I didn't know how bad things really are.

>> No.57646144

>>57622331
pedo coin

>> No.57646313
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>>57646079
Yeah I'm speccing out a GPU miner now so I can grab a bunch of early block rewards for a low mcap coin and then flip back to MoneroOcean when it's no longer profitable and the whole process is just draining. We don't love XMRig enough.

>> No.57646748

>>57646313
What's the state of GPU mining? I have an RX 7600 laying around and I'm wondering if I can put it to any use.

>> No.57646769
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>>57646748
It's not like the glory days of ETH mining or even when Ravencoin was active. You basically need to mine like a VC, stacking low mcap coins and waiting for the runup. With a card that low wattage you're probably OK letting it run 24/7 (it's like 160W max), so I'd recommend booting up Linux and runing the MoneroOcean algo-switcher version of XMRig on it. I used to do OK with that on an RX 580 a few years ago.

>> No.57646922

>>57646313
Whoever made this image tapped into something. That's my favorite liquidware port!!

Does mining early coins actually make enough money to justify buying hardware (provided free energy)? I never looked into coins other than monero much.

>> No.57646962
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MONEROMARKET.IO

>> No.57647140
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57647140

>>57646769
I enabled my card in the xmrig-mo config and it gives an additional 300h/s lol. Is xmrig good for mining other coins with a GPU? Because I don't want to install (((proprietary))) miners on my main machine.

>> No.57647152

>>57646922
>Does mining early coins actually make enough money to justify buying hardware (provided free energy)?
If you get lucky and hold long enough to pull a 10-100x it pays for itself even after electricity and hardware.

>>57647140
You have to run a separate instance to enable algo switching I think. So one process+config.json for CPU, one for GPU.

>> No.57647182

Where do I hire assassins for menoro

>> No.57647209
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57647209

>>57647182
>menoro
This thing?

>> No.57647269

>>57647152
>You have to run a separate instance to enable algo switching I think.
Do you need to run the gpu xmrig as root?

>> No.57647272

>>57647269
It wouldn't hurt at the very least.

>> No.57647449

when bullrun?

>> No.57647516

>>57647209
no that's a dreidel, you anti-semenite

>> No.57648631
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57648631

>>57646962
Please buy, thanks.

>> No.57648655

>stack halves in value
What the fuck happened?

>> No.57648698
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57648698

>>57646962
>>57648631
SPECIAL OFFER: If you buy 3, you get one for free! Just tell me you're from /xmr/.

>> No.57649974

>>57648655
Monero is a terrible investment.

>> No.57650595
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57650595

>>57622331
Am I ever going to make it?

>> No.57650663

>>57622902
I want to suck a woman's saliva out of her mouth until she's dry.

>> No.57650734

>>57650595
The feds know you have 2.1 terrorist bombs now

>> No.57650864

>>57650734
I am behind 7 proxies. They'll never find me

>> No.57650965

>>57650864
knock knock

>> No.57651027

>>57650864
Hm odd. Do you hear that?
>>57650965
Yeah anon. Knock knock. Mmmm sexo time

>> No.57651091
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57651091

>*knock knock knock*
>*BANGBANGBANG*
better open up (that butthole)

>> No.57651295

>>57636955
>>57635891
Would it be more difficult to implement a stacker news-like site for monero? Given that it's harder to make a dex for it. I don't really think it should be that hard, maybe it doesn't even need to rely on any monero-specific code other than addresses and proof of payment

>> No.57651388
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57651388

>>57649974
>Monero is a terrible investment.

I'm actually starting to like this meme more than Don't Buy Monero, has serious potential as a moonfag repellent.

>> No.57651669 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57651739

>>57647209
Ah a beautiful menorah

>> No.57651881

>>57651388
Are we at least allowed to want to break even??

>> No.57651956

>>57651881
I always feel these guys complaining about le heckin moonbois are actually part of a psyop to keep price down so that hashrate goes down and it's cheaper to attack. I never understood why wanting to keep purchasing power growing, especially when USD is trending to 0, would be something viewed as bad by anyone who actually cares about xmr

>> No.57652046

>>57651956
Anyone sensible know's it's going to mars (in terms of objective monetary value), but it won't if it gets coopted by the number go up mentality like BTC did.

>> No.57652066

>>57651881
>Are we at least allowed to want to break even??

And moonfagging is how you expect to achieve that, huh?

>> No.57652108 [DELETED] 

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>>57651956
>I always feel these guys complaining about le heckin moonbois are actually part of a psyop to keep price down so that hashrate goes down and it's cheaper to attack. I never understood why wanting to keep purchasing power growing, especially when USD is trending to 0, would be something viewed as bad by anyone who actually cares about xmr

Yes, the price is down because sperging out about NGU with a Le Epic OrgasmFace is strongly discouraged here.

If you genuinely care about XMR encourage spending and organic growth pegged to actual economic activity.

>> No.57652166

>>57652149
The guy in pic related is actually pretty smart. You got filtered by the clickbait thumbnails.

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57652173

>>57652046
>Anyone sensible know's it's going to mars (in terms of objective monetary value), but it won't if it gets coopted by the number go up mentality like BTC did.

This. Don't Buy Monero/Monero Is A Terrible Investment = an IQ test.

>> No.57652183
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57652183

>>57652166
>The guy in pic related is actually pretty smart.

Yes, you can tell.

>> No.57652199

>>57652149
I agree about encouraging actual economic activity. Doesn't seem like saying "monero is a terrible investment" as a meme helps that in anyway.

>> No.57652229
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57652229

>>57652149
>ALL IN!!
These pictures never fail to amuse me. I'm also proudly an owner of 0 BTC as of today, kek.

>> No.57652330

>>57652173
>>57652046
Kinda just seems like this is just a different type of ngu mentality that is like "it's okay if you say price will go up if you act cool but don't use those particular cringe words to say it's going up". Regardless, I'd want to encourage actual use of xmr, including in sites using it for micropayments for anonymous posts. Things that are made possible due to the low fees and privacy. The "aping in" nonsense is stupid but I just don't care that much about those types anyway. So coming up with "tactics" to fight that seems like a waste of time to me.

>> No.57652350

>>57652330
>it's okay if you say price will go up
Focusing on the price is the ngu mentality. Discussing monetary properties of different crypto and the consequences of those properties isn't the ngu mentality.

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57652409

>>57652199
if you are a seller of goods accepting xmr, why wouldn’t you want the price to rise? people transacting as buyers might only hold for a short time between trading into xmr and buying their spliff or whatever. the anti-moonfag thing never passed the sniff test.

>> No.57652447 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57652561

>>57652409
Yeah, price is a pretty practical consideration of anyone actually using it.

>> No.57653057 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57653618

>>57645203
based
xmr makes keynesians seethe

>> No.57653746 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57653763

>>57652183
He's good at social engineering. Those thumbnails probably net him a lot in clicks and ad revenue. You love posting his face after all.

>>57652199
If the price goes up, people who save in Monero can afford to buy more goods with XMR, generating more economic activity.

>> No.57654122

>>57653618
going to post some stickers again when weather gets better

>> No.57654976

>>57652561
Not to those who buy and immediately spend.

>> No.57655111 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57655310

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57655319
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57655319

I hope you guys have some Bitcoins too, for your sanity.

>> No.57655356

>>57655319
If we hit 0.0021 on tradogre I will not own a single skeric of BTC. Besides that fork though I still have most of my Bitcoins.

>> No.57655363 [DELETED] 

earn free giftcards as many times as you want and resell it for profits, read the pdf at the link below

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>> No.57655381

>>57655310
Reporting my posts just kinda confirms that I'm actually satoshi but whatever

>> No.57655417

>>57655381
fund a brother out then kek

>> No.57656037
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57656037

So what's going to happen tomorrow? I'm not a moonfag, just a need to pay the bills fag.

>> No.57656097

Now that XMR will be removed from trading pairs on Binance.
Where should I trade them? Kraken?
Is it safe to leave XMR on Binance if they'll remove trading pairs?

>> No.57656117

>>57656037
most likely a 10% pump, because shorts on binance will have to be closed by the system

>> No.57656137

>>57656097
>Is it safe to leave XMR on Binance if they'll remove trading pairs?
No, they will auto-sell your XMR for stables if you leave them too long.

>> No.57656158

>>57656137
Aight I'll just transfer them today.
I'll move some of them to my Ledger, but in the future, should I stick to Kraken for an exchange?
I've only been using Kucoin and Binance and Kucoin is not supporting XMR

>> No.57656170

>>57656158
kraken is ok and you have real USD pair, not just USDT

>> No.57656173

>>57656170
Thank you

>> No.57656242

>>57652561
>>57652409
Most of the anti mooning here is from one autistic sperg who has made the moonfag meme from years ago his entire life's mission and philosophy. Real XMR chads do care about price, but are much more patient and don't post about it because we know the true value XMR and how it will serve us in the future as privacy itself becomes more and more of a commodity.

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57656272

Wait what?
Didn't they say I'll be able to withdraw until 20th?

>> No.57656274 [DELETED] 

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>> No.57656322

>>57656272
no sir , you are supposed to sell NOT WITHDRAW

>> No.57656364

>>57656272
lol you are being scammed by binance chinks
not your keys, not your coins.

>> No.57656367

>>57656322
Withdrawals of these token(s) from Binance will not be supported after 2024-05-20 03:00 (UTC).

Ok apparently I have 3 months to withdraw.
Unless I'm missing something

>> No.57656380
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>>57648698
Sweet deal, finally got around to making a moneromarket account thanks to this

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>>57652409
>if you are a seller of goods accepting xmr, why wouldn’t you want the price to rise?

You're confusing being anti-moonfag with being anti-NGU. A rising price is welcome as long as its organic and slow as opposed to artificial and rapid. Rapid price hikes invite manic speculation, which in turn results in persistent volatility, and volatility is really bad for commerce, especially the kind that relies on escrow. This was made glaringly apparent over the past week when the XMR dump forced multiple DNM vendors to cancel a slew of orders due to the losses incurred.

And that's why Monero's legendary crabbing is often celebrated as being a positive since minimal volatility = good for commerce.

So as long as the XMR price rises slowly and over a longer period of time, these harmful volatility problems can be avoided. And avoiding such problems means the economy can continue expanding = consumer XMR demand keeps growing = number keeps going up *organically*.

TL;DR: being anti-moonfag = being pro-sustainable NGU.

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>>57656242
>Real XMR chads do care about price, but are much more patient and don't post about it because we know the true value XMR and how it will serve us in the future as privacy itself becomes more and more of a commodity.

Yeah, just don't incessantly dwell on the price, its really that simple.

>> No.57656482
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>>57656455
monero is better than gold
since the chain is not transparent you cannot map like btc, so you never know who will dump on you
this alone ensures true price discovery

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>>57655319
I want to swing my btc stack into xmr at this trading pair low but I am schizophrenic into thinking market makers will scam pump btc to just under 60k while dumping xmr below 100 then commencing the crypto wide gigadump. I really do not care about price I just want more btc/xmr.

>> No.57656525
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>>57656508
if you lose the loss is marginal and you will recover
if you win, you double your money in a week

>> No.57656529

>>57656473
fucking good tshirt design
where to buy?

>> No.57656533
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57656533

>>57656380
You're welcome. I'm not even profiting from this offer (~+/- 0), but since my monerochad bros seemed interested I couldn't help but make this special deal to spread the love.

>> No.57656541

>>57656525
>marginal loss
This market is such a clownshow I really don't know. Remember when ETH was going to 4k while everything was stalling? I wouldn't be surprised if btc starts dumping to 29k while something like worldcoin pulls a dogecoin and everything else resets to 2022 lows. I think I'd rather stick with letting btc do its halving pump then sit in xmr during bear market.

>> No.57656549
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57656549

>>57656541
monero is a sure bet, and binance shorts are about to get rekt, binance doesn't even have the monero on hand to do withdraws
10% pump in few hours and then another 30% $165

>> No.57656564

>>57656549
>pump
>exchanges delisting making liquidity drop
I want to believe but come on man. Its all about volume and liquidity. Watch xmr hit 300 just a week before this bullrun ends cause mass cashout demand spike. I think it'd be better off playing the clown market currently.

>> No.57656586
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>>57656564
this dump is an anomaly, literally the covid dump
and we have hours, before buy the news event
it is negative so when it concludes you buy the news

>> No.57657339

do we think it dumps tomo?

>> No.57657642

>>57657339
Everyone already knows it will be delisted, should be priced in by now, but who knows...
Maybe XMR whale will start selling on exchanges with lower liquidity, dumping the price.
Or this >>57656117 will happen.

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57657797

>>57656525

>> No.57657848

>>57657642
just considering swapping over to btc/ltc wait for dump and swap back but swingies get the rope sooo

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57657871

>>57657797

>> No.57658048

Ummm XMR bros??? Where do we buy?

>> No.57658062

>>57658048
at $80, then sell at $110, then buy again at $40, then hold for 10 years until $50

>> No.57658093

>>57658062
>at $80, then sell at $110, then buy again at $40, then hold for 10 years until $50
Sounds like a plan, Why do you think it will only move $10 against the USD in 10 years?

>> No.57658115

>>57658093
I do not thinks so. I don't know what's going to happen.
I hope it gets back to $160 tomorrow due to shorts being closed on Binance or something.

>> No.57658125
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57658125

I boughted

>> No.57658272

fuck you you fucking liars

>> No.57658300

>>57658272
1 XMR = 1 XMR
you don't lose if you don't sell

>> No.57658314

>>57658272
>he trusted terrorists
Thanks for playing

>> No.57658328

>>57658115
I hope the shorts push the price down into oblivion. Buying more XMR with the same amount of cash is just lovely.

>> No.57658341

>>57658314
>he trusted terrorists
Lmfao.

>> No.57658401

Withdrawals of these token(s) from Binance will not be supported after 2024-05-20 03:00 (UTC).

Delisted tokens may be converted into stablecoins on behalf of users after 2024-05-21 03:00 (UTC). Please note that the conversion of delisted tokens into stablecoins is not guaranteed. A separate notification will be made before the conversion where applicable, and the stablecoins will be credited to users’ Binance accounts after the conversion.

gl to anyone who haven't withdraw from binance yet

>> No.57658426

>>57658401
>Delisted tokens may be converted into stablecoins on behalf of users after
This forced liquidation will institute a great buying opportunity.

>> No.57658575

>>57626770
You will find that Monero feds are very averse to any privacy tech that makes their job of managing a honeypot more difficult. Also double digits incoming, get wrekt feds.

>> No.57658660

>>57658426
the markets on binance will be long closed in May, so they will just convert nonexistent moneroj to the market price from other exchanges
it shouldn't really move the price or am I wrong?

the futures market was already closed on 15th so it's only spot Monero remaining

>> No.57658682

why is this dumping ?

>> No.57658697

>>57658682
kikes are mad at hezbollah, soon israel will fall and we will be free from the river to the sea

>> No.57658903
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>>57656533
Truly appreciated.
You got one more guy to actually start using this great tech. One of the many single steps that make up this thousand-mile journey toward our thousand-year crypto-reich.

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mfw

>> No.57659135

>>57658904
literally me

>> No.57659278
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57659278

When does XMR go mainstream?

>> No.57659366

>>57659278
when using anything less private becomes untenable for normal people

>> No.57659391
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57659391

mmmmm monero sisters????
this is the wallet from get monero org

>> No.57659400

>>57659391
It's got a miner built in that antivirus software flags because of botnet shenanigans

>> No.57659418

>>57658682
Binance will officially delist/restrict monero tonight at midnight, so there's a sell-off going on right now for all of the people who didn't sell during the February 6th dump. We're probably pretty close to bottom resistance, I highly doubt it will go below $105.

>> No.57659489
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>>57658903
That's great, fren. Happy to have helped getting you in. Next time you want to sell something on ebay or whatever consider putting it on moneromarket. Grow the monero economy!

>> No.57659591

>>57658904
F

>> No.57659645

>>57658575
1pbtid fag, try harder znigger

>> No.57659969 [DELETED] 

>>57622381
We are retracing to $70 dollars. I’ll buy your bags there. Love xmr but knows not the time to hold.

>> No.57659995

This coin is way too risky, that's why I hold a more stable, reliable coin. Wownero.

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57660203

>>57659418

I was about to ask what is happening, but that explains it all, it's a nothing burger but a great time to buy for a quick +50% gains.

>> No.57660245

can you still trade XMR on binance? i have a few coins left there and cannot withdraw coz they run out of monero. They say they will delist this coin in 6 hours but now i dont see any trading pair with xmr.

>> No.57660268

>>57660245
>do we think it dumps tomo?

Sell it for USDT, buy BTC and withdraw.

>> No.57660284

>>57660268
i cannot sell it. There is no XMR pair active to trade with anything

>> No.57660306

>>57660284

That means trading is disabled for XMR

>> No.57660325

>>57660284
They will liquidate it for you at bargain prices. My condolences I will be buying your bags for $90.

>> No.57660359

>>57660325
not until 20.05, just trust them they will ad more from cold wallet

>> No.57660477

>>57654976
What are people supposed to save in then if not XMR?

>> No.57660496

>>57658682
Because HAHHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

>> No.57660775

Fucking binance.
I bought for 220.
Now I had to sell for 110.
It seems to me now is best time to buy back on normal exchange and transfer to local wallet because no reason for price to go any lower.

>> No.57660856

>>57660775
>Fucking binance.
>I bought for 220.
>Now I had to sell for 110.
Thank you for your service.

>> No.57661022
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57661022

>>57660477
If you want to keep your wealth outside the system, PMs are pretty good.

>> No.57661156

>>57651956
It's cope. Don't overthink this. Monerofags coping and FUDing, nothing new.

>> No.57661346

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57661365
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57661365

lmao my mullvad had just expired and I got a year with discount thanks to the monero 2024 faggot fud event, still have 3 monerinos trapped in faggotnance, wasn't able to get them to feather in time

>> No.57661387

>>57661365
Ooohhhhhaaaaaaa

>> No.57661391
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57661391

>>57661156
>It's cope. Don't overthink this. Monerofags coping and FUDing, nothing new.

Yes. Monero is a terrible investment, don't buy any!

>> No.57662142

Nice dump, more cheapies and hopefully we'll be rid of more moonfags.

>> No.57662652

>>57661022
PMs are shit. Gold barely holds against inflation, silver bleeds against it, and that doesn't count the massive premiums on physical.

What are you supposed to hold?

>> No.57662688
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57662688

The vastness of Bitcoin consumes us.

>> No.57662734
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57662734

odd, world War 3 is going and terrorist coin is dumping. Mathematically that means the terrorists LOST
>>57661346
I am satoshi on Tuesday/Thursday

>> No.57662770

If I can sell, should I sell?

>> No.57662814
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57662814

>>57662770
Hard to say where the bottom is if you're timing the market.

>> No.57662878

>>57623155
Too much. Keep it at 25 xmr tops.

>> No.57662926

>>57662652
If you hate PMs that much, fine. Personally I don't care about fiat value at this point because it's all fake and gay. I just care how many oz I have. So if it lags behind inflation it's just cheapies to me. Same with XMR, except I'm actually using that so the fiat price matters a bit more.

>> No.57662955

>>57629743
They think they'll profit more by sucking the dicks of regulators. I'm pretty sure SBF's plan was to gain the favor of regulators and get some kind of special status from them. Eventually getting the same kind of guarantees of solvency as big banks. After all, he was basically doing what banks do with fractional reserve banking.

>>57634682
Money is the most liquid asset, meaning, you can most easily trade it for whatever you want as everyone is a buyer. The goal is to make XMR liquid by actually using it to directly trade for goods and services, not because you can liquidate it by exchanging it for fiat. Having the ability to liquidate it back into fiat is good in the near term, but ideally that wouldn't happen at all. You can still buy fiat with XMR in a variety of ways, depending on your needs.

>> No.57662976

>>57662926
I don't hate PMs, I hold some gold. But I'm aware it does poor against inflation. Even if the fiat exchange rate is gay it still determines the purchasing power of an ounce of gold.

So again, what are you supposed to hold?

>> No.57663000

>>57662976
You're supposed to hold ligma

>> No.57663071

>>57662976
Keeping up with inflation is good for a no-risk asset. Not sure why that is a problem. Sounds like you have a healthy mix.

>> No.57663173
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>>57663071
Gold isn't a no-risk asset plus it has done poor against inflation since the mid 70s and done poor over the last decade. This doesn't count physical premiums either which definitely make it lose to inflation. Only way you're winning is by actively trading contrary to the point of saving.
Apparently Monero isn't supposed to be saved and Bitcoin is supposed to be a scam. So what are you supposed to save in?

>> No.57663305
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57663305

>>57663173
Gold has done well since the 00s. Do you mean saving or investing?

>> No.57663347

Delisted. Congrats.

>> No.57663353

>>57663347
It's not over yet! We still have Kraken and de-centralized exchanges!

>> No.57663364

>>57663347
Don't care. Thanks.

>> No.57663422

>>57663305
That doesn't count for inflation. See >>57663173 Any gold bought before 1965, between 1972-1999 or 2006-2015 is underwater. And that doesn't even count premiums which are over 5%. And silver is even worse.
And I mean saving as in I should be able to accumulate wealth in some form without actively trading and not have it bleed to inflation.

>> No.57663474

>>57663422
Until 71 there was a fixed gold-usd exchange rate (gold standard). Premiums on gold are 1-2% even for fractional gold. But idk, buy bitcoin?

>> No.57663485

>>57663422
>In 1973, the average price of gold was $97.12 per troy ounce, which is equivalent to $700.97 in 2024 dollars.
>Gold is hovering at 2000 dollars an ounce in Feb 2024.
>gold is three times its inflation adjusted price. Thats 300%

So just how has gold not kept up with inflation?

>> No.57663603
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57663603

Kraken looks okay so far. No humiliation ritual dance is always a bonus. Wish it had a crypto card that can eat xmr, but this works for me.

>> No.57663611
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>>57663485
The official inflation numbers are heavily manipulated (substitutions, hedonic adjustment, not counting food, energy, or housing), with the formula having been changed multiple times for this purpose. If you use the old 1980 formula, we've had double digit inflation almost every year for decades. $97.12 in 1973 is closer to $5000 now.

>> No.57663618

>>57663603
what happened to the kraken bank

>> No.57663633
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>>57663618
I don't know, I just need a cheap way to convert xmr into something I can move to the panda so I can buy eggs.

>> No.57663635

>>57663603

Tradeogre.com is better, try it with $10

>> No.57663644

>>57663633
www.tradeogre.com has the best rates for XMR, you only need an email to register, no face, no name, no number, no kyc, no limits to deposits, trades, or withdrawals.

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>>57663635
>>57663644
Thanks, looks good. Will try it next time I need a shitcoin.

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57663709

>>57663674

Did you say shitcoin?

>> No.57664010

>>57663709
Yeah, monero to shitcoin.

>> No.57664034 [DELETED] 

>>57664010

>> No.57664053
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>>57664010

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>>57663633
How to buy eggs and bread with my monerinos?

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57664467

>>57655356
>0.00211011

>> No.57664542

>>57663611
>$97.12 in 1973 is closer to $5000 now.
Which means boomers were making fucking $82/hr minimum wage. No wonder they could all afford homes.

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>mfw finally set up my dual EPYC 7601 to mine Monero
32KH/s right now with 4 sticks of memory per CPU, will soon upgrade to 8 sticks. Feeling pretty based.

>> No.57664852

>>57664789
That will probably slow it down if anything. Take your best 4 sticks (or 2 even?) and overclock them as high as possible.

>> No.57664868

>>57664852
Each CPU uses eight channels so it needs all slots filled. I don't know if overclocking is even possible with this server motherboard.

>> No.57664947

>>57664868
Fair enough I couldn’t tell you anything about those then. I know what got me the best results was something like having the same mclk and fclk on the cpu and having those as high as possible and then getting the memory timings as low as possible.

>> No.57665125

Been out for a year or so. What caused the dump earlier this month? Wasn’t planning on selling anyway but still.

>> No.57665160

>>57665125
Binance delisting announcement, the delisting itself happened today i believe?

>> No.57665309

>>57665125
Jews probably

>> No.57665394

>>57665309

>>57658697

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57666397

>>57663347
>Delisted. Congrats.

>> No.57666446 [DELETED] 

>>57666397
delisting it from centralized exchanges is same as that gold isn't sold in supermarkets

>> No.57666482

>>57666397
delisting it from centralized exchanges is the same as not selling gold in supermarkets

>> No.57666524
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57666524

>>57666482
So it's actually bad.

>> No.57666595

>>57666524
My bad, didn't know they actually sell gold in US grocery stores. I'm europoor and have never seen gold or silver sold like that. Only way to buy them here is from internet or local precious metal shops

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