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“Stocks plummeted 12% pre-market”

“Excluding items, Hasbro's profit per share was 38 cents, compared to the estimate of 66 cents” fucking hell they’re done for.

“1.92 billion dollars of operating loss, though 1.846 billion of that is due to the sale of E-One”

“Adjusted operating loss of 46 million dollars”

“Revenue decrease of 19% driven by business exits, category trends and inventory management”

Like fucking hell, the year’s been shit for them all around. The only positive thing seems to be that transformers and GI Joe had “full year growth” which idk what that means but that sounds not bad, especially considering transformers had the biggest movie flop in its history this year

>> No.57591070

>>57590937
>peak 120, now 45.
Bruh even if they do recover back to their glory days thats like a 2x - 3x from here.

risk reward sucks.
Call me when they trade at $10

>> No.57591090

Maybe if they can stop turning D&D gay I will buy their products again.

>> No.57591132

I am hoping someone just buys Magic from them

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>>57590937
>>57591090
>invest in homosexuals
>they die off without a legacy
>no more customers

>> No.57591202

>>57590937
Maybe they shouldn't have hired troons to make D&D / Magic gay.

>> No.57591225

>>57590937
If you look at Ryan Cohens last twitter post he is hard into this stock. Free ticket to 10x.

>> No.57591235
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>> No.57591282

>>57590937
Maybe they shouldn't have wasted 1.5 billion buying Boulder Media only to never use it.
Maybe they shouldn't have gave their rights away to so many shit companies and studios.

>> No.57591328

>Niche dorks fuel your business
>Shit all over them
>???
>Profit!
Why are MBA like this?

>> No.57591340
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57591340

let it fail

>> No.57591738

>>57591340
>>57591328
>>57591202
>>57591192
>>57591132
>>57591090
You guys know DnD isn’t actually the thing losing them money right?

It could be doing better but it’s far from the reason why they’re doing poorly. The issues are down to, primarily, licensed brands like Marvel, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters etc failing to sell anything at all.

>> No.57591755

>>57590937
all toy companies are going bankrupt
toy sales are down double digits year after year and have been for years
generation alpha is so brain damaged from ipads they're literally incapable of interacting with physical objects
the only toys increasing in sales are squishy fidget toys to soothe adhd brains
t. works in a toy adjacent industry and we've been bleeding red ink since covid

>> No.57591779

>>57590937
Toy fag here, Mcfarlane toys has been absolutely wrecking Hasbro's market share with their DC line. After inflation, Mcfarlane barely raised retail costs, while Hasbro raised almost across the board all retail costs by at least 10%. They're doing it to themselves. Also doesn't help that DC is quite actually less gay than Marvel. I promise that I have sex. A dad's gotta have a hobby.

>> No.57591795

>>57591738
With Jews you lose. Disney raping it’s franchises for political propaganda is killing hasbro lmao

>> No.57592041
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57592041

go woke; go broke

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Horsefucker here. Can't wait to piss on Hasjew's grave after everything they did to FiM. Hope every single exec dies from cancer like Goldner.

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57593015

He won.

>> No.57593024

>>57591738
>Star Wars
>Indiana Jones
woke shit is the thing ruining these franchises too

>> No.57593039

>>57591755
This is the only reasonable answer. Physical toys are done.

>> No.57593048
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57593048

>Retarded wall street analysts completely blindsighted by this downturn
>Toy industry faggots completely blindsighted by this downturn
>Autistic anons from 4 boards - /tg/, /toy/, /mlp/ and /co/ - figured it out months ago by doing the math.

Dammit I love this website. When are we going to dance on their graves?

Crossposts:
>(containment)/40820557
>>>/toy/10871196

>> No.57593062

>>57591738
All of those IPs suck now so Hasbro sucks. Should have licenced some Genshin merch.

>> No.57593091

>>57593048
When are GME baggies going to get onto this? They love holding dead company stock forever until bankrupcy

>> No.57593098

>>57591755
There's that, and so many secondhand toys floating around, why would any sane person spend $40 retail on a doll you can get at a yardsale for .50. Kids are only kids for so long; even a child's favorite toy they'll use for 10 years tops. Most get switched out in two. Baby toys last 3-6 months before a new stage of development is reached. Facebook Marketplace will give them away after because space is scarce. No one can afford a home, can barely afford rent; their space is often split with multiple people. A room taken up with toys is a room that can be rented between $1-4k depending on location.

>> No.57593154

>>57591235
everyone buying it is catching a falling knife I think

>> No.57593200

>>57591738
>>57593062
>>57591755
Most toy companies are doing fine. Zuru and Jazwares showed good numbers with only minimal losses. Hasbro is fucking up all on their own
>But the kids only play with Fortnite and Roblox!
Yeah because they have jack shit to call their own. Everything is MUH KIDULTS and MUH NOSTALGIA to the point the only things they really have are Bluey and LOL!Surprise.
>TF is horrid
>GI Joe is horrid
>MLP is in the gutter, the only fans are a handful of remaining horsefuckers
>does LPS even exist anymore?
>Jem is in the gutter
>/k/ complains Nerfguns are going downhill
>D&D and MTG going to shit, multiple scandals in a year and everyone looking for alternatives

>> No.57593267

>>57591738
>The issues are down to, primarily, licensed brands like Marvel, Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Ghostbusters etc
Because that shit is all 40+ years old and kids today don't even know what they are... are they trying to sell their toys to Gen X? Maybe if they made toys about FNAF, Roblox, Skibidi Toilet etc. that kids are actually into, they'd actually sell.

>> No.57593296

>>57591738
I don’t see much of a future for companies like Hasbro. In the 80’s/90’s we had summer blockbusters with massive public appeal and merch sold like hotcakes. Toy companies were rolling in cash. They really don’t have that fuel coming their way from Hollywood anymore. Major toystores have gone bankrupt, so there’s that, too. Kids are fixated on wanting phones and iPads now as well. I’m trying to remember the last time I saw a kid with a toy in their hand, like a Transformer or a Barbie or anything like that. Kids used to run wild bouncing balls and hitting buttons on noise-making toys on toy aisles but now you see them disinterestedly following their parents shop as they watch a video on their device. Then of course there’s the declining birthrates- immigrants outbred Americans last year, and they’re not spending big money on toys. Companies like Hasbro are fighting a multi-front battle and losing at every turn.

>> No.57593384

>>57593267
>Skibidi toilet
Oh, shit. Imagine the sales for a remote-control Skibidi toilet that you could zip around like a remote-controlled race car and could have it sing that infernal song. There’d be videos all over Tiktok of kids doing crazy things with it.

>> No.57593659

>>57593200
>>57590937

I think we should get the entire toy sector to get their acts together and get all brands in good hands

>> No.57593670

>>57592997
same, Hasjew's has a galaxy level of brain tumor to fuck up on this level

>> No.57593674

>>57591225
Really? I can make back everything I lost on GameStop!

>> No.57593711

>>57591340
Imagine if the token it produced had haste. Holy shit could be nice sideboard for mono red against control

>> No.57594864

>>57592997
Which Hasbro-brand-fan doesn't feel that way lol

>> No.57594876

>>57590937
You chuds wouldn't go see the Barbie movie.

>> No.57594899

Go to a bargain store like Ollies or Big Lots and you'll see why they're in this shape. There's mountains of Star Wars, Captain Marvel, Black Panther, etc shit that absolutely no one wanted. They're not even going to be able to give it away. It's destined for a landfill.

>> No.57594909

>>57591328
God knows. It seems Becky is getting he revenge on the nerds for dominating culture with their shitty space operas, computers and superheroes.

>> No.57594935

>>57594899
Transformers and MLP G5 are also at Ollies. Can't even find em in normal toy stores.

>> No.57594936

>>57591755
I grew up playing with sticks and rocks
Fuck your gay "toys"

>> No.57595002

https://www.forbes.com/sites/joanverdon/2024/02/13/hasbro-sales-down-23-in-fourth-quarter-ceo-says-turnarounds-take-time/
>TL;DR: Cocks says everything is to blame except Hasbro itself
LMAO

>> No.57595624

>>57595002
Wait they actually believe that

>> No.57595644

I mean if you buy literal toys over the age of 18 you deserve to be treated like a child. And that's how Hasbro treats its customers and shareholders.

>> No.57596560

>>57595644
Anon some of us have kids

>> No.57596591

>>57590937
>“Excluding items, Hasbro's profit per share was 38 cents, compared to the estimate of 66 cents” fucking hell they’re done for.
>“1.92 billion dollars of operating loss, though 1.846 billion of that is due to the sale of E-One”
teach me some accouting
how do you have a small profit per share but also losses?

>> No.57596683

>>57592041
a long way downhill from comfy knights and dragons to blacked lords of da rangs versus tranny beastmasters with blue hair. magic is DEAD. even disneys lorcana is more interesting

>> No.57596690

>>57596591
an operating loss is a small percent of the total picture
>t. some retard

>> No.57596998

>>57596591
>>57596690
>For a firm, gross income, (also gross profit, sales profit, or credit sales) is the difference between revenue and the cost of making a product or providing a service, before deducting overheads, payroll, taxation, and interest payments
It's jewry speak for ''we made profits, but then more costs were added, so actually its a loss''

>> No.57597011

>>57595644
>no you can't do what you want with your life you need to be a good little wagecuck like I am

>> No.57597087

>bought some movie company only for the end result it that it was used for absolutely nothing
>so i wars toys don't sell

Yeah I think it's over. Wake me up when they bring back Kenner or Milton Bradley

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>>57593015
summoning him one last time!

>> No.57597114

>>57593384
Don't give them ideas

>> No.57597202

>>57590937
looks like Hasbro is about to become HADbro

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Maybe if they made decent toys for kids I’d actually start buying from them.
> my first camp fire
> lake building kit
> junior welder for ages 3-7
> my first .357 target shooting kit
Let kids be kids and stop forcing gay gender neutral shit on them

>> No.57597429

>>57596998
so how do they have a profit per share?

>> No.57597496

>>57595644
l'm routinelly reselling mlp g4 shit for 100-300% (anything goes as long as it's in line with my autism but usually only mlp toys you can get really cheap). I'm feeling like pawnshop owner in Shenmue game. And if anybody thinks that I'm a pedo because I'm horsefucker I don't care. My collection of mlp and fumos and other autistic stuff is more or less the investment. Also no burglar is crazy enough to steal Cirnos and ultra rare color horses.

>> No.57597526

>>57597429
because its not profit, but we're calling it profit through weaselwords. Long live Wall Street shenanigans

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>>57590937
Its time for pic related to happen.
Oh shit, I thought this was /pol.

>> No.57598398

>>57597202
Has bruh.

>> No.57598972

>>57597202
Hasnobro

>>57598249
>Is black, kills everyone except white
Deepest lore. Unless dark cards are white. I never played MTG, I played Kaijudo instead.

>> No.57599006

>>57598972
White cards canonically are depicted as Black Sun.
I am still confused how this obvious Nazi reference has not been removed yet, considering all the woke shit MtG has.

>> No.57599010

>>57590937
WAGMI RC IS BUYING AND MERGING WITH BBBYQ

>> No.57600407

>>57593200
>the only fans are a handful of remaining horsefuckers
They would've been lucky to have even that. G% a shit.
>Verification not required.

>> No.57600426

>>57600407
I think he meant that the only fans are autists who still cling to G4 memories.
G% fans are pretty much non-existent.

>> No.57600454

>>57600426
If that's the case, fair enough. But Hasjew isn't really making G4 merch anymore so I figured that wasn't the thing being referenced.

>> No.57600483

>>57593091
dude look at BBBQY, even when GME dies they'll still be shitting up this board

>> No.57601934

>>57600426
Daym what is even G%? I thought there was G5 after G4 back in the day. I'm out of touch with the horsefuckery

>> No.57601947

>>57601934
Retarded console wars started by G4 psychopaths.

>> No.57601959

>>57591090
This lmao. Fuck those faggot lefties for invading fantasy.

>> No.57601980

>>57601934
G4fags mad at <new thing>
Not great but still cute characters and could be much worse

Well, time to buy some puts

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>>57590937
>I considered sparing your pitiful IP of Equestria for a time, now WITNESS ITS DISSHEKELMENT!”

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Maybe if the popular culture weren't in the Nazi-like throes of joyfully dismantling and discrediting everything Old and Evil and Normal they'd sell more fucking toys. Maybe they should have said something to Hollywood before they drove off a cliff. Oh well. Down the hatch.

>> No.57602192

Boys who wants a good laugh? So I went to LinkedIn of all places to check how the toy industry responds to it.

TONE DEAF SILENCE
>Almost no one dares bring it the Q4 results up, despite bringing up Zuru's good numbers frequently being posted
>MGA CEO (((Isaac Larian))) dances on Hasbro's grave
>''T-Transformers is doing great it turns out! 25% increase! yaaaaayyy!'' while ignoring the elephant in the room
>Article on ToyBook, https://toybook.com/hasbro-refocusing-on-play-as-2023-revenue-falls-15/, glosses over everything that is going to shit or ignores it, only plays corporate claptrap
>nobody dares say ''Hasbro is done for''
LMAO

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>>57597429
>>57596690
>>57596591
See picrel for what ''profits'' mean

>> No.57602504
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I think this picture sums up everything wrong with Wall Street/the toy sector's take on Hasbro dying
>Noooo it's just temporary
>Ye we were waaaay off because Hasbro of course didn't lie to us or pretended things were far better than they actually are
>Everything will be fine!
The ton of assumptions and pure copium about the brands is insane. Also you have to know that they expected Q4 of 2023 to wipe most of the negative lining to begin with. I don't know what they're smoking, but can I have some of that?

>> No.57602524

>>57601934
G% means that G5 is around 1% as popular as G4 was.
You can post G5 pics and everyone will assume that it's some bootleg pony show by a literally who studio.

>> No.57603666

>>57602504
>>57602322
How the fuck are they not bankrupt yet

>> No.57603773

>>57593048
>>Autistic anons from 4 boards - /tg/, /toy/, /mlp/ and /co/ - figured it out months ago by doing the math.
based

>> No.57603841

>>57590937
Any toy company who saw video games completely capture childrens' attention and didnt try to pivot to games development has a competency problem so it was a matter of time in the first place. And the writing was on the wall over 30 years ago.

>> No.57604409

https://variety.com/2024/tv/news/paramount-global-layoffs-ceo-bakish-memo-1235909218/

MR MONOPOLY MAN I DON'T FEEL SO GOOD EITHER

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This is funny and all but... How do we go about short selling them? We should profit off next sears after all.

>> No.57605191

>>57604409
https://toybook.com/spin-master-preliminary-2023-earnings/

Spin Master down 10%

>> No.57605283

>>57591090
They won’t stop. The corporate office is right near me and you should see the blue hairs and trannys coming out of that building. It’s over and they did it to themselves. Impossible to pivot once these demons infest your company

>> No.57605973

let the culling commence
i bet by the time this finishes at least 33% of publicly listed companies are dead

>> No.57605980

>>57590937
I hope Takara still makes Transformers even after Hasbro closes down lmao. I need my fix of plastic crack in the form of Transforming toys.

>> No.57606955

>>57605283
>the fall of Rhode Island is about to commence

>> No.57607125

Time for another GME?

>> No.57607197

>>57592041
I fucking hate what they turned MtG into. I'm ok with a bit of wokeness but they went full retard.

>> No.57607214

>>57590937
Gen Alpha doesn't play with toys. They just play games on ipads and watch YouTube all day.

>> No.57607643

>>57607125
Lol, if Hasbro is as competent in shilling as they are in everything else now, this will only cause more people to spite-short them into oblivion.

>> No.57608562

>>57602524
"G%" is a newfag meme for people who want to feel like they're oldfags, but they're really just from /v/eddit