/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.57586536]

Redpill me on China. Are they taking over?

[Anonymous No.57586557]

The chinese real estate market (the biggest bubble in human history by valuation) is collapsing as we speak
so no they're not taking over lmao, turns out America won (again)

[Anonymous No.57586565]

>>57586536
well if a nigger said so it must be true

[Anonymous No.57586569]

>>57586536
>>57586557
With jews, you lose.

[Anonymous No.57586578]

>>57586536
Zogbots are terrified of Muttmerica collapsing so they project this on China

[Anonymous No.57586590]

>>57586557
Two more weeks

[Anonymous No.57586595]

>>57586536
No. They're not going to "collapse" either. That's just a straw man by wumao to distract from the fact that their economy is bleeding out. They just vanished 6 trillion USD on their real estate bubble and it hasn't even exploded yet. The CCP is printing money like no tomorrow buying up stocks on the Chinese market to prevent a collapse. Shit is going to get real bad real soon but they won't "collapse" any more than Russia or Venezuela "collapsed".

[Anonymous No.57586597]

>>57586569
words words words nigga i aint reading all that shit

[Anonymous No.57586604]

>>57586536
That negress is kinda cute ngl.

[Anonymous No.57586605]

>>57586536

[Anonymous No.57586609]

>>57586595
>The CCP is printing money like no tomorrow buying up stocks on the Chinese market to prevent a collapse.
why come all the news articles saying China is collapsing because too much deflation

[Anonymous No.57586617]

>>57586557
Never bet against America.

[Anonymous No.57586620]

>>57586590
and just so we're all clear i still have a horse sized cock retardless of whether or not you're a dumb /pol/ cuck

[Anonymous No.57586634]

>>57586557
will they print their way out of it?

[Anonymous No.57586641]

>>57586634
No, the ccp is making investors eat crow. No bailouts, only executions.

[Anonymous No.57586665]

>>57586641
lol okay i'll admit it the ccp is making investors eat dick no bailouts only executions i guess i'm just a dumb /pol/ cuck with a tiny dick like you

[Anonymous No.57586667]

>>57586557
>>57586617
These. Rentpublicans thought our housing market would crash, but home ownership is dropping hard, mostly thanks to our southern border spiking housing demand through population growth. Let the Europoors and chinks enjoy their lower cost of living and "racial purity" We have a BOOMING housing market that will only get more expensive while the rentoids seethe.

[Anonymous No.57586675]

>>57586620
>>57586665
am i supposed to know what this is

[Anonymous No.57586683]

>>57586595
>they won't "collapse" any more than Russia or Venezuela "collapsed".
both of those collapsed tho

[Anonymous No.57586698]

>>57586683
so why is the media always seething about them

[Anonymous No.57586699]

>>57586605
>decade-old data
>muh socialism china apologists at the helm of the study

[Anonymous No.57586717]

>>57586536
not yet. they're entering the first sell off bear trap on a societal scale.

[Anonymous No.57586718]

>>57586698
tt's mostly reflex for russia, but venezuela doesn't see much airtime except as a humanitarian issues story. did you mean el salvador?

[Anonymous No.57586742]

>>57586536
The west is coping hard on China. Why do you think the tariffs on chinese products are still a thing? American products simply cannot compete in price against the chinese. Europe is decaying. I see more often posts in reddit of europeans wanting to fuck off from europe and relocate in latinamerica.

[Anonymous No.57586747]

>>57586718
> but venezuela doesn't see much airtime except as a humanitarian issues story.
Donny T complaining that he almost overthrew them, juan guaido still in the news sometimes, guyana, etc

[Anonymous No.57586751]

>>57586595
We need to make sure that doesn't happen here, so I'm voting Biden this November. I just bought a house in 2022, high leverage, 20x more expensive than the nice couple who I took it over from paid for it, so securing my bags is all I give a fuck about now. China is experiencing a deflation spiral because of their population drop off. Sure, the young there might experience a massive surge in spending power, cheap access to rent, homes, and an overall lower cost of living, but they're doing so by their boomers getting fisted.

America stays winning because we have immigration. We gotta keep Trump out of office, or our housing market will absolutely get NUKED by -98%

[Anonymous No.57586772]

>>57586675
$hoba
we dont care

[Anonymous No.57586781]

>>57586609
Because they are. Consumers are hoarding money because they fear that the market is going to fall out. And it is. The government is printing money to buy stocks that have no value and preventing sales.

[Anonymous No.57586784]

>>57586597
>t. CCP bot or jew

[Anonymous No.57586794]

>>57586667
China
>Housing is extremely cheap
>Deflation so food prices and everything else is becoming cheaper
>Value of savings go up
>Government has largest FOREX reservers in the world so financially secure
>Shit jobs are manned by fellow Chinese (rural migrants)
>Hope for the future as China continues to rise

Zogmerica
>Housing bubble so big that most millennials will never own a home
>Skyrocketing inflation causing food to become even more unaffordable
>Government printing trillions of dollars to send Israel so all savings value is evaporating into the air
>Government has more debt than 98% of countries in the world combined
>Shit jobs either staffed by immigrants or depressed wagies
>No hope for the future as american decline is obvious to all young americans

Hmm, hard to pick who has it better.

[Anonymous No.57586800]

>>57586747
Trump shitposts about everything eventually, and invading another country got them like six hours of coverage.

[Anonymous No.57586804]

One sector of the economy doing badly for china doesn't mean it's over. The us is actively doing everything wrong. Look at the us chips act fiasco vs china making 5 NM chips.

[Anonymous No.57586805]

>>57586569
Of course. Israel has our entire country under blackmail. Imagine all the gay shit they got Lindsey Graham aka Lady J on tape doing. The only way out is a total collapse or maybe a tax rebellion

[Anonymous No.57586815]

>>57586804
intel's on track to release 2 NM chips from US fabs this year, are you retarded

[Anonymous No.57586824]

>>57586794
well my dear boy what if i told you that you don't have to choose between a housing bubble and hyperinflation in america and a glorious rising socialist paradise in china; you can simply move to somalia and live a beautiful life with a strong dollar and no responsibilities no one can touch you not the government not the banks not your landlord only you and your liberty so don't worry about having to choose between communist china or debt ridden america you can always escape to paradise in mogadishu my friend

[Anonymous No.57586831]

Unironically moving to china to escape america

[Anonymous No.57586835]

>>57586815
If you keep up with the news you'll realize it's a mess

[Anonymous No.57586857]

>>57586536
Yes. Read Ray Dalio's book. He lays out everything. Hail Xi and the CCP.

[Anonymous No.57586860]

>>57586835
The plant's delayed, but the tech that goes into it seems to work fine, meanwhile the CCP is cobbling together chips at low rates, that were state of the art...five years ago. china might be the closest thing to a US peer, but it still doesn't make the grade.

[Anonymous No.57586861]

>>57586751
>They stop publishing unemployment rate in China.
Probably nothing.
>people threatening mass suicide in protest to not being paid
Probably nothing.
>Evergrande collapsing with no money for its debts
Probably nothing.
>US trade war meaning we’re shifting industrial production to Vietnam and satellite shitholes
Probably nothing.
>fake food, no healthcare, crippled youth from toxic chemicals ingested growing up
Probably nothing.
>government cronies fleecing the populace with scam construction and scam banking
Probably nothing.

And with all that we can expect to crab the markets as the USA conducts it decoupling from the Chinese factory economy. China will get gigarekt for its heinous crime of trying to make BRICS a thing.

[Anonymous No.57586873]

>>57586536
Yes.

The Chinese are incredibly intelligent. It's no wonder they are atop.

[Anonymous No.57586885]

>>57586824
People move to America not because of its living standards (which on average is lower than most other developed countries), but rather because America is essentially an economic zone ran by Jews where any immigrant can become "American" overnight because there is no base American identity/race.
The immigration argument doesn't work for you.

[Anonymous No.57587034]

>>57586578
>I'm projecting evergrand going bankrupt
K

[Anonymous No.57587057]

>>57586665
>No bailout
Nigger they're literally buying up shares on the market and restricting sales

[Anonymous No.57587090]

>>57586751
Yeah China is mega based. Let billionaire investors scam the working people out of their life savings that they put into real estate because market investment was a scam. Then when those companies go out of business and risk fucking 30% of the national GDP print money to buy shares of those companies and prevent people from selling the worthless paper. Very based.
Shalom

[Anonymous No.57587098]

>communist state
>not collapsing
top jej, just like the soviet union china will look crazy powerful then randomly collapse and it'll come out how corrupt and mismanaged it really is

even now with the internet there's lots of youtube channels covering how dysfunctional china is

[Anonymous No.57587104]

>>57586557
>IT'S COLLAPSING BRO TRUST ME
Reality
>Nothing is happening

>Bank that actually collapsed and stole like half of Silcoons valley money
Reality
>Half of Cali is laid off

[Anonymous No.57587110]

>>57586860
>noooo china is 5 years behind still
>10 years ago they were 10 years behind
never mind them catching up (actually they've overtaken already).

[Anonymous No.57587113]

>>57586794
>Housing is cheap
Already false. People were pooling together the life savings of several family members to buy a house. On a lease of 90 years to the government. You don't even own it.

[Anonymous No.57587125]

>>57586860
>>57587110
oh and mind you, that the only top nodes come from little china (taiwan) and worst korea.

[Anonymous No.57587154]

>>57586861
My favorite part is the mega faggots that deep throat China at all costs talking about how America is a zog state and then they desperately ignore China being the biggest Jews on planet Earth. If we did anything even close to the level of fuckery that's still ongoing with their property sector these people would bust a fucking nut all over their keyboards.
And mind you the property sector in China still hasn't felt the full impact of the evergrand situation. It's going to get much much worse.

[Anonymous No.57587176]

>>57587104
A bank failing just means they don't have the necessary capital ratio and their debts get bought out by bigger banks like JPM. Do you think a trillion dollars in debt just vanished? That was a year ago and you're still mad that nothing happened.
Cope seethe dial 8

[Anonymous No.57587183]

>>57587110
>10 years behind
>5 years behind
The issue is that they don't invent anything, just copy. So they'll always be behind. Their education system actively discouraged critical thought so you can't create researchers that will create the best new thing. The last Chinese invention worth anything was paper.

[Anonymous No.57587187]

>>57587113
False, over 80% of people in China are homeowners, that's a much higher rate than the US where you aren't even allowed to own a home (you pay rent, aka property taxes, to the government to keep it).
In China you buy a house and it's yours for life. You don't rent it from the government like americans do, there are no property taxes in China.

>>57587154
Americans will look at AIPAC openly bragging about how 98% of politicians it endorses win their "elections" and then still not think zogmerica is a jew-run slave hole.

[Anonymous No.57587194]

>>57586557
This, they put all their savings in housing and now their houses are worth peanuts, it also killed their renting market overnight.

[Anonymous No.57587201]

>>57587034
>le evergrande is going to collapse China's economy any day now
I've been hearing this cope since 2020. For the love of God can zogbots please come up with new material? Some of you retards still also think the 3GD is going to collapse as well soon.

[Anonymous No.57587214]

>>57587187
>90 year lease
>You don't rent it from the government
Ok. So when you work your entire life to buy a home and you like it and want to hand it down to your children and grand children? Yeah you're renting it from the state. Nice pilpul.
Guess what retard, I want Israeli and Chinese influence out of America. Which is why I'm not going to let you retards try to pretend like China isn't imploding as we speak. Like I said, they won't collapse, but they're not gonna be #1 either. Ask Japan how that goes.

[Anonymous No.57587218]

>>57586536
i would never trust a nigger, especially if it's a woman but i know that the US economy is falling behind, the federal reserve prints too much money and inflation increases more and more, bidenomics failed and we have 2.4% inflation according to truflation

fuck the feds

[Anonymous No.57587228]

>>57587201
Evergrand stock status? Shadow Bank status? Chinese real estate status?

[Anonymous No.57587269]

>>57587214
The home ownership permit is almost always renewed (only costs a couple grand). If I had to choose between paying for something once and then owning it for my entire lifetime, or renting it out from the government, then I choose the former.
Cope, america has property taxes and China doesn't.

>Chinese influence
Zogmerica is 100% ran by jews and nobody else. You're clearly just another reddit NPC. Come back to me when all your leaders prostrate themselves at the Great Wall of China instead of the Jerusalem Wall.

[Anonymous No.57587273]

Not gonna lie I am getting interested in pinduoduo. The temu super bowl add got all the normies I was with talking about it. They might just come in a fuck amazon up, just like the have been fucking alibaba up in china.

[Anonymous No.57587282]

>>57586536
China was always in control. It's a show on all sides.

[Anonymous No.57587300]

>>57587269
>There's no property tax
>You don't rent the land from the government
>Ok you do but it's only a few grand and the government has the right to reject it
Absolute
Fucking
Clown

[Anonymous No.57587305]

>>57587228
Remember when Evergrande was supposed to collapse China's economy 4 years ago? Keep praying for that.

[Anonymous No.57587337]

>>57587305
Why would I need to pray? They've been demanded to liquidate by a hong Kong Court
>But based China will just ignore that
Ok. Understand that Hong Kong is the gateway for foreign investment into China. Like the other anon said. How do you think foreign capital will react to China telling them to take a 99% haircut with no repercussions?
Either they let evergrand liquidate and it sucks short term or they try to force the loss onto investors and they're just done for good.

[Anonymous No.57587344]

Also further understand that even after the property sector has their needed crash that that's essentially the end of the China GDP growth meme. So much of their growth for the past 20 years was just construction. If that's done what do you think they'll do after?

[Anonymous No.57587350]

>>57587300
It's not rent you retard. Rent is when you continuously pay money to a landlord so that they allow you to live there, and if you stop paying then they can kick you out of the house. This is why americans aren't allowed to own homes, the second they stop paying rent/property taxes, they're instantly kicked out of their homes.

You're not going to be alive in 90 years to pay "rent" in China, your children will also pay a 1-time fee like you and keep it all their lives.

Home ownership is sacred in China, which is also why you sometimes see highways built around a single house in China because the owner refused to sell there. Eminent domain practically doesn't exist in China.

Meanwhile in the US people get their homes stolen or destroyed under eminent domain/'civil asset forfeiture' all the time. Americans are oppressed by their Israeli-run government.

[Anonymous No.57587402]

>>57587350
>Money paid to a landlord in perpetuity so they don't kick you off the land
This is rent
>Money paid to the state in perpetuity so they don't kick you off the land
This is also rent
>Money paid in perpetuity to the state at the end of the lease so they don't kick you off the land but they can also just reject that payment and kick you off anyway
This isn't rent
Dumb bitch.

[Anonymous No.57587434]

>>57587402
you're retarded and i hate you

[Anonymous No.57587493]

>>57587402
Think about it you faggot, how can the government keep track of who owns a house if it doesn't continuously tax ownership? This is what the fee is about, it's about processing the title.

Brainwashed anti-China retards think that after 90 years, a home owner in China loses their home and they have to pay the government the entire value of the house to buy it back from them but that's not how it works. Instead, you pay a small sum to confirm you still own the house.

A 1 time payment is not rent you retard. Paying every month or every year like americans do is rent.

[Anonymous No.57587565]

>>57587493
By tracking when the lease is up and telling you to fuck off. Simple as.
>>57587434
Seethe
每人知道你是五毛
中国回去吧

[Anonymous No.57587873]

its just a slight correction after they went parabolic over the past 2 decades. china has infinitely better quality of life and getting a house is easy. US cities look like they're from a 3rd world country nowadays especially compared to china
>>57586794
so many victims of kike propaganda in this thread lmao
>>57587113
like this guy

[Anonymous No.57587925]

>>57587873
>Kike propaganda is pointing out that China is doing everything the kikes did in 2008 x100
>It's based when you buy the worthless shares from the property sector with the money printer and avoid giving the regular people that got fucked any compensation
Mazel tov rabi!

[Anonymous No.57588011]

>>57587925
>18pbtid
>spouting jewish nonsense at me
seethe harder you brainwashed loser

[Anonymous No.57588070]

>>57588011
>It's Jewish propaganda to gape my asshole in public
Stop being a shill