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>> No.57500006

Biden's data manipulation is going to kill us all, Jerome doesn't understand he NEEDS to cut NOW

>> No.57500009
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>>57500006
It's already too late
Bumpy landing incoming

>> No.57500017
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Last thread I was bullish on bidenomics
This thread I'm bearish on USA macro trends.

>> No.57500041

>>57500006
Jerome is an economic whipping boy. He's part of a circus act to distract people from the uncontrolled horrific chaos of reality. Nothing he does matters.

>> No.57500086

>>57499952
I memory holed this wow the US Treasury has literally defaulted. That's fucking wild.
This should be major news everywhere

>> No.57500107

>>57500086
I think everyone did, I think that was the intention.

>> No.57500117

>>57500107
How did they think doing unfathomable damage to the faith in us debt to deny Russia a paltry 500 million dollars or whatever was worthwhile?

>> No.57500124

>>57499943
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SGlPnA_iCk

>> No.57500139

>>57500117
It's probably the political nonsense where they end up with their head way up their ass and believe their own lies.

>> No.57500159

>>57500006
why

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>>57500139
Well I'm glad I don't hold treasuries. They'd probably default on me for posting TND memes.

>> No.57500181

what's up with dem houthie mfs

>> No.57500195

NVDA sub 400 eoy

>> No.57500218

>>57500117
B-but anon! They had to teach Russia a lesson! It wasn’t stealing at all- it was JUSTICE!

>> No.57500221

>>57500165
70% of my account is in short term treasuries. Partly for safety and partly for the interest rate exposure. I haven't decided what I'm going to do on Monday. I might just ignore it for now and pretend things are fine.

>> No.57500254

>>57500181
News media bobbleheads say they’re getting glassed. I think we all know the reality of it is our boys blew up a few empty tents and might have killed a camel or two. Biden warned ahead of time before the first strikes what the exact targets would be. I see no reason why he wouldn’t do the same thing for Yemen.

Imagine what a karate tournament match would be like….
>Hey. I’m about to jab you in the face. I mean it! I’m about to do it! Okay, here I come!

>> No.57500260

>>57500006
this but the opposite, he needs to keep raising
mcchickens aren't a buck yet, and that is what is really important

>> No.57500273

>>57500006
No, you see. You don’t get it. It’s vital to keep the cash poor shut out of the housing market while cash rich investors snap up all of the properties!

>> No.57500275
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17 minutes to movie night! Tonite's feature is Silent Hill (2006)!

>> No.57500284

Went to hibachi for dinner tonight. Got filet, chicken, and lobster. The chef tossed up broccoli pieces for the diners to catch with their mouths. I caught 1 out of 3.

>> No.57500287

Gentlemen, I'm all in big tech. Bears stay poor.

>> No.57500304
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>>57500275
>videogame movies

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>>57500275
An even worse moobie than last week, Sunny. Count me out.

>> No.57500324

>>57500304
Are there any good video game movies?

>> No.57500328

>>57500324
Mortal Kombat.

>> No.57500339

>>57500324
desu they have been putting a lot more effort into video game and anime franchise shit than they used to. I unironically enjoyed the new sonic movies.

>> No.57500353
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Movie night movie night, get in here! Tonite's feature is Silent Hill (2006) aka the ONLY good vidya movie ^_^

>> No.57500355

>>57500339
I still need to watch that and the Mario movie

>> No.57500373

>>57500353
That title belongs to Stephen King's Lawnmower Man kek

>> No.57500472

>>57500353
This is better than last week’s movie about molesting shota.

>> No.57500513

>>57500472
glad I forgot to look.

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>>57500181
Pool's closed.

>> No.57500560

>>57500324
DOOM

>> No.57500627
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wow slow night eh

>> No.57500789
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>>57499943
Turns out bring me to life by evanescence is actually a good song

>> No.57500805

>>57499943
based FAGMAN OP
>>57500789
also based

>> No.57500809

>Every normie and their mother is bragging about their etfs being up 40% in year

We are in a bubble.

>> No.57500814

>>57500789
It is a good song, it was just overplayed in the early 2000s. Same as Never Gonna Give You Up.

>> No.57500816

>>57500809
Are they all in QQQ?

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>>57500789
I think I Kissed a Girl by Katy Perry is a good song and I will increase the radio volume if it is played while I'm driving. Local radio station likes to play this more guitar heavy version.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLq48VDQIAM

>> No.57500866

When is the bubble of people saying we are in a bubble going to pop?

>> No.57500875
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>>57500866
Shortly before the bubble pops.

>> No.57500882

In honor of this evening's movie.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SasQXLx-Av0

>>57500866
Dude, it could be a long while. Serious, this is some weird global stuff. All that Russia money on the sidelines, war money, 1 trillion in gibs just a few months ago, huge employment... Honestly, it could be a long while. Which is probably why it will be monday while I'm in.

>> No.57500927

>>57500866
2 more weeks

>> No.57501004
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>been trying hard to grind out learning TA and strategizing to catch up
>debit card gets compromised, potential medicaid identity theft, cat puts a small hole in the wall, and issues with rent billing all in a day and a half

>> No.57501022

>>57500866
It's deliberate. People are desperate to buy cheapies so they're shilling this idea of a tech bubble. They want you to sell.

>> No.57501131

>>57501022
how do you sleep at night? sorry, wrong question,
WHERE do you sleep at night, I have some proof of concept tools I'd like to test.

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>>57501004
Crap anon I hope things get better for you

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>>57501004
I've never had my debit compromised. Credit card, on the other hand, has been nabbed and used FOUR times over the course of some fifteen years or something. I blame some of the small online shops I use having spotting security. One time I'm pretty sure a crabby liquor store I went to had a mag scanner on their machine. Now I have alerts set to notify me immediately if any charge is made on my card for any value. Bank has a toggle that lets me lock the card myself without calling them so that's helpful. People always bought bullshit with my number. Some jewelry store for some small dollar amount, plane tickets.
How cat make hole in wall?

>> No.57501232
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i don't know what the fuck is going on

>> No.57501245

>>57501216
I use credit cards as a revolving LoC paid off monthly for everything. You get points and a layer of fraud protection as it is ultimately the credit card company’s money.

>> No.57501250

>>57501216
My credit cards have been nabbed many times before. Easy to lock and dispute. Never had a fraudulent charge not removed.

>> No.57501255

>>57501245
>>57501250
Yes same thing. I get cash back on groceries from my main one. It's nice. Card company always wiped the fraud charges. They have always been easy to work with on this.

>> No.57501256

>>57501216
The last time my credit card was compromised the company called me. It was bizarre. Somebody tried to order over $4,000 worth of… model train parts?? (!!!) They had blocked the charge and called to confirm and issue me a new card and I just couldn’t even be mad about it from laughing. Even the CS agent was all, “Yeah… that’s a new one.”

>> No.57501260

>>57501256
Model train parts. That's funny.

>> No.57501261

>>57501256
Bizarre. Model train parts?

>> No.57501279

>>57501131
Fuck off doomer
You're wrong
You've been wrong for 18 months
You will continue to be wrong

>> No.57501280
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I am now convinced that glowniggers are intentionally trying to create the most insane, unsustainable, egregious stock market bubble possible on purpose just so that they can dump it on Trump. They know that continuing to pump the market like this is going to cause a crash 10X worse than 1929, but that's the point.

>> No.57501291
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>futures

>> No.57501297

>>57501131
Also its Montpelier vermont. Come find me. Please come find me

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>>57501261
>still holding intel thinking it would bounce back now
>tfw stuck being an intcel now
SOOO I MADE A BIG MISTAAAKEEEE, TRY TO SEE IT ONCE MY WAAAYEEEEE

AAAAAMMMM III WWRROOOOOONNNNGGGG?!
HAVE I RUN TOO FAR FROM HOME

>> No.57501309
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>>57501004
>learning TA

>> No.57501313

>>57501280
Think so? It surged when he won in 2016. Then again, they really expected Hillary to win.

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>>57501313
The stock market had a blowoff top just six months after Herbert Hoover took office and everyone blamed him for it. They're trying to replicate that. No matter who wins the election, unsustainably pumping the market into a blowoff top like this either gets Biden reelected or hurts Trump. These psychopaths don't actually give a shit if it destroys the United States.

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>>57501280
I do stronger espouse the doom bull theory but i don't think it's as partisan political as you think. It's not just US running fiscal policy like this either. More i think it's 2008 coming back around and everything since has been can kicking. Things that broke back then weren't really fixed. Mistakes that were made are still being made. So it'll crash real hard at some point here, big reshuffle again, nothing will be fixed, bounce, pump another 15-20 years anyway.

>> No.57501335

>>57501325
>These psychopaths don't actually give a shit if it destroys the United States.
Now this sentence i agree with.

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>>57501332
What you think is broken is just how the regular old economy works. You are just low IQ that you think it's broken.

>> No.57501347

>>57501325
Ahhh. So pump leading up and crow about how Bidenomics is the best thing ever to help his votes. If Trump wins it crashes, and it’s all his fault. If Biden wins and it still crashes it will be Russia’s fault, and Trump’s fault, some kind of revenge crash. Regardless, they’re engineering a timed crash. Hmm.

>> No.57501351

>>57501332
If you're an amoral glownigger psycho like >>57501340, then it's a win-win to create another 1929 blowoff top because it either helps Biden or hurts Trump.

>> No.57501352

>>57501347
Yes, exactly.

>> No.57501358

Stop buying gold retards. Its literally a scam.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9v4cjoROg4I

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>>57501325
Hoover was a good president, I hate the wheelchair NIGGER FAGGOT that replaced him.

>> No.57501363

>>57500006
Nigger this is done on purpose. Wealth inequality is even happening in stocks now. The mag 7 sit on Scrooge McDuck levels of cash, they don’t give a shit about high rates since they don’t need to borrow anything. Any innovative competitor will get bought. Same shit for JP Morgan while regional banks get fucked. It’s all about concentrating the power.

>> No.57501371

>>57501280
You overestimate the unity of the "market." Even if you think its evil, not all evil factions have the same goals and are in fact fighting against each other. None of us matter in that fight, and its too chaotic to target something like the presidency. If theres a team trying to crash it for Trump, theres a team trying to get ahead of them to snatch that money away. Thieves stealing from thieves.

>> No.57501379

>>57501280
It doesn't matter so much why, just matters that you know it's a blowoff top and don't get suckered in like all the -10IQ mumoids who think it's a soft landing lol.
And yeah my conspiracy logic would go further, I think kikes know America and the world in general is turning on them and they want to create as much global suffering and starvation as possible. Their boomer base is almost all dead, the global birthrates tanking mean that they won't have the same number of debt sheep to dump on, they won't have a pension system, they won't have an army of zogbots to defend Shitrael.
So many things are looking bright. They *have* to crash it.

>> No.57501383

Futures?

>> No.57501386

>>57501371
Jews are pretty close knit and seem to regulate themselves towards a common goal, tikkun olam, quite well so I'm not sure how sound your analysis is.

>> No.57501389

>>57501379
Retarded posts like this make me all the more bullish. When it comes to investing, always do the opposite of what /pol/ schizos say.

>> No.57501395

>>57501379
No way, Jose

>> No.57501405
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>>57501389
Hey now I am no doomer. Smart money is antisemetic, bullish, and cunnypilled in no particular order

>> No.57501409

>>57501386
Thats just a facade. They all want the biggest piece of the pie, greed doesn't just stop at a line.

>> No.57501410

>>57501389
It's more observation and hope for what will happen. I'm an optimist. But also a realist.
The important thing is it's a blowoff top and that means smart anons should plan for the next few months.

>> No.57501414

>>57501410
Stop looking at the linear chart.

>> No.57501422

>>57501409
Okay you keep believing your mystic and opaque one liners and I'll keep believing simple observations. Maybe we can see who has a better return a year from now.

>> No.57501424

>>57501371
>>57501379
It's being orchestrated by Biden and the treasury department, with other agencies pitching in too. They're using the same tools from covid to engineer a blowoff top.

>> No.57501425

>>57501379
This is why I like selling otm covered calls. If shit pops, Im forced to sell at the top and uaually buy back cheaper when it falls. If it doesnt, then I just collect premium.

>> No.57501434

>>57501422
>all evil people have the same goals and always work together so just dont even try!!!
youre delusional. I didnt even make a market prediction and youre crying about returns. You must have lost a lot on your shorts.

>> No.57501442 [DELETED] 

>>57501425
What a retarded shill.

>> No.57501448

>>57501442
Keep buying my calls, Im sure it will work out eventually :)

>> No.57501477

is intel a good buy?

>> No.57501481

>>57501477
>he doesnt know

>> No.57501485

>>57501477
I have my eye on it but Im not yet convinced its a good buy.

>> No.57501497

>>57501424
I dont think they can keep it together until the election.

>> No.57501519

>>57501477
lol

>> No.57501526
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>>57501477
Checked and is this bait?

>> No.57501533

>>57501481
>>57501519
>>57501526

fckin niggers can you answer without your OMG LOOL DUUUDE PEPE FACE

>> No.57501540

did some market breadth excel again. most stuff is close to december levels. bullish

>> No.57501584
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BABAbros, JDcommies, BAIDUtrannys...
When will be our time again? The US stock market pumps on fake data but we get rekt on positive news of a growing chinese economy, bullshit.

also, why the fuck do I always have to wait 1 minute before making a post?!

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>>57501584
>When will be our time again?
7th of Feb.

>> No.57501601
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I had a dream that the market opened 34.33% down. Do with this information whatever you will.

>> No.57501603

God I hope we get a total dumping bloodbath next week, I need to make up for that bullshit pump a few days ago...

>>57501340
I wonder what her feet smell like bros?

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kek okay I'm buying Apple at ATH now

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>>57501617
SCIENCE!

>> No.57501643

Is ASML a good buy? Crown jewel of the Dutch industry and basically a monopoly on chip making machines.

>> No.57501648

>>57501643
severely overpriced at this point, unironically wait for the crash

>> No.57501654

>>57501648
Seems a lot less overpriced than other AI meme stocks

>> No.57501680

>>57501584
>>57501597
I'm diving back in on tuesday.

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>>57501643
Au contraire.

>> No.57501716

>>57501617
lel what a time to be alive

>> No.57501783

What if it keeps going up?

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>>57501783
You invert the chart.

>> No.57501798

smci has a beautiful clean chart. did a big breakout last 3 weeks.

>> No.57502006

>>57501533
No, Intel had a great run but now has to fight against gravity in the best case scenario. You would be buying what is very likely a top after a massive multi-month bull run. Rookie mistake right there. You want to buy things that have value but for whatever nonsensical reason, not just lacking love from Mr. Market but are also temporarily hated OR things that are just starting to run with lots of upside to go. The semiconductor ETF confirmed a double top about a week ago so it seems to be nothing but massive downside risk for the semiconductor industry as a whole. Can it go higher? Yes. What are the probabilities looking forward? All signs point to little if any gain with an eye towards massive downside risk. We are talking a massive loss of wealth on a percentage basis. If you want to play, to get some of the action, and you don't care if you loose 50% on the trade, go for it. If you want to grow your wealth and even a 10% pullback is too painful to endure, I wouldn't touch it, there are better opportunities. Maersk is paying a big dividend and shipping costs are going to be way up in the next few weeks if the Yemeni Houthi crisis isn't fully resolved, which it won't be as last week Israel has announced a new offensive into Southern Gaza. Might the young gentleman not prefer to own stock in shipping as a fair speculation? 1488

>> No.57502065

do you guys invest in anti-esg etfs? I feel like it'd be a decent way to "vote with my money" and not have my investments underperform because they have to fund whatever pozzed company has enough trannies working in it

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I would love to enter MARA at $14.

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>>57500006
>cut
The price of everything has 2x from 2019 and wages went up 10%. Crash everything now. Deflate now.

>> No.57502076

>>57500324

Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

>> No.57502079

Why did AI suddenly become such a hot topic? It has been known to be a thing since the fucking 80s. So why is it just now that everyone is presumably realizing the inherent value of semi chips? i dont get it. What has changed in the past 5 years? Nothing. "AI" is just a retarded concept that gets thrown around by anyone now with no real definition. We have been using AI for so many decades, - i.e. use of computers to improve productivity, but just now are we suddenly seeing the boom in the stock market sense?

What has fundamentally changed? A chat robot came around?

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>futures

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>futures

>> No.57502134
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>pre-futures

>> No.57502142

>>57502079
Declining population. Only way for GDP to continue up without massive immigration is a massive upward boost in productivity via AI.

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>>57501260
>>57501261
it's my hobby why you gotta belittle it?

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>>57502065
>anti-esg etfs
Just buy XOM and COAL stocks.

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China bros...

>> No.57502228

>>57502079
If you are making obscene amounts of money and there is no way to sustain it, the only logical way to have the gravy train keep rolling is to engage in fraud. To get right to the point, you exaggerate, make bold claims that cannot possibly come true, misrepresent anything for a quick buck... a fool and their money are soon parted... and after all, you are highly motivated for financial gain to be on the right side of that transaction. Yes, we'll take your crappy chatbot and upgrade it to have generative text derived from a controlled dataset, slap lipstick on this pig, there! Now we can command larger salaries and get more money from these fools before the inevitable bottom drops out, before the big rug-pull. During the DotCom era everyone was making a startup. We are going to combine your fax machine and phone number into one number, and manufacture the units you jack into your wall in our newly acquired warehouse, we just need investors like you willing to engage in multi-level marketing... this will be revolutionary stuff, get in while the going is red hot, don't want to miss out on this revolutionary technology! Don't you want to get rich, quickly!? So these are scammers, bottom-feeders, used-car salesman pushing the narrative for a quick buck. Don't get bamboozled.

>> No.57502246

>>57500809
Maybe you should have bought some yourself instead

>> No.57502268

>>57502246
I will on monday :)

>> No.57502278
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>>57502199
Nice.

>> No.57502298

>>57501617
>cybertruck with the VR goggles
Lol they're dorkmaxing.
I actually kind of like the idea of something like this for driving though. When you have to commute straight into the sun at least it won't permanently damage your eyes.
Also maybe they could put an LCD over the camera lens and do something about the glare. That would be a legitimate use case.

>> No.57502307

>>57502065
>>57502152
Funny coincidence: a new coal ETF started trading a few days ago actually. Ticker is just COAL

>> No.57502313

>>57502298
I have a cheap pair of $2 sunglasses that satisfies that use case.

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>>57502307
Local top signal unironically.

>> No.57502316

>>57502199
>sentiment in Chinese stock market finds the absolute bottom
interesting

>> No.57502330

>>57502079
Attention was legitimately a revolutionary discovery. It made at least convincingly useful generative AI possible.
It's kind of like how we had the internet in the 80s but no one cared until Mosaic got written.

>> No.57502336

>>57502313
Those don't protect your eyes from damage if you're looking into the sun, they just protect them from the intense light from diffuse reflection. You need welding goggles if you want to look at the sun but you can't drive with those.

>> No.57502353

>>57502199
They're starting to feel the bugonomics

>> No.57502355

>>57502065
>anti-esg etfs
I don't think such a thing exists. I just buy companies that don't do the esg/DEI thing.
Or ones like Gitlab that say they do but when you look at what they mean it's just the Linus Torvalds "we're on the internet so none of that matters" thing. Their DEI page actually has White guys on it IIRC.

>> No.57502399

>>57502314
I can believe it; coal is entering a shoulder season so local bottom should be in March or April or May

>> No.57502400

>>57502134
literally me
>>57502065
>muh fucking ameritardism

look at 4UB9, you don't like the 5%TSLA 5%MSFT 5%NVIDIA 2%ASML 2%ADOBE 2%KO 2%PEP etf? You even get 1.5% yield

>> No.57502432

>>57501617
You will have lived long enough to see an extremely technologically advanced society have an aneurysm and decide to bring in the dumbest shit from 80's cyberpunk fiction
I understand why living on this planet isn't free now

>> No.57502443
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57502443

Red monday
prepare your cash

>> No.57502492

>>57502443
I'm 2x margined on 100 UPRO shares.
I'm going to buy calls on Monday.

>> No.57502504

>>57501617
someone nuke humanity

>> No.57502510

>>57502079
Its not
Its a fraud
AI doesnt exist

>> No.57502513

>>57502355
https://www.morningstar.com/sustainable-investing/whats-inside-anti-esg-funds
https://www.etf.com/sections/features/what-is-anti-esg-etf
https://www.ft.com/content/0caf08cd-88d8-4c17-b694-b5ed757b0b47
https://www.kiplinger.com/investing/etf-funds-for-anti-esg-investors
apparently they're a thing

>> No.57502518
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57502518

>>57502228
good post
they needed something to prop up the stock markets
the economy itself is in the crapper

>> No.57502533

>>57500117
This is discussed heavily on another board. America weaponized the reserve currency and its backfiring.

>> No.57502534

>>57502518
>they needed something to prop up the stock markets
>the economy itself is in the crapper
sameasiteverwas.gif

>> No.57502535

>>57502513
Oh yeah I'm sure they claim it but I doubt they actually execute on it.

>> No.57502560

>>57502079
The secret is neural networks. AI was bottle necked really hard for a while until then. Everything from speech recognition, speech synthesis, picture creation, all of it comes from the invention of neural networks.

And the interesting part is that each network needs to be created and trained so it in essence because a unique product you can sell. If both Google and Microsoft and Amazon make an AI NN but Amazon has the best engineers for it, then their product wins. And there's no possibility of copying it.

It's hyper capitalism. Pattern recognition as absurdum

>> No.57502568

>>57502518
This gets even worse when you break it down by demographics. 99% of all jobs for s&p 500 companies went to non whites. So the biggest demographic in America is silently fuming

>> No.57502687
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57502687

>it's another edition of I accidentally stayed up until 8am

>> No.57502722

>>57502560
i just want neural network driven AI in my strategy games like Stellaris it will make things so much funner

>> No.57502741

>>57499943
How does one get into AI trading bots? I see ads for them on Instagram, but it's always grifters trying to get you to sign up for 50 dollars a month. I'm not tech-savvy enough, but I wish that there were some decent resources about it. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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57502753

Seriously, I'm buying apple calls as soon as the market opens. They can sell anything, people will buy it.

>> No.57502755

>>57502741
There’s no such thing. All scams.

>> No.57502756

>>57502079
Has anyone actually had success with those AI trading bots? I cannot seem to get into them.

>> No.57502757

>>57502741
Get a job at Blackrock

>> No.57502760

You are going to mass today right anon?

>> No.57502761

>>57502753
kek

>> No.57502767

>>57502228
lol except this time the market is driven by cash cows like meta who already make billions not by unprofitable startups

>> No.57502783

>>57501216
The cat knocked a big wooden tea box off my desk and the box itself smashed corner first into the wall.
The way the debit got compromised was I had to do one of those stupid fucking qr code payment things at a PF changs and got a malicious redirect, didn't notice that it wasn't a legitimate site and was caught completely off guard, but as soon as I entered my info I got 60 dollars worth of charges. I'd be surprised if I didn't get refunded but it's the only card I had so I've been stuck paying cash for everything until the new one arrives.

>> No.57502784

>>57502760
Gonna eat salmon pasta and drink a porter

>> No.57502817
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>>57502760
I am going to gain mass today

>> No.57502821
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57502821

>le 3% growth story

>> No.57502841

>>57502821
Apple's big problem is the same as Tesla's. They went all in on the Chinese market only for the Chinese market to make their own

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>>57502821
>Le 3.4% inflation.
>Le negative real growth.
>Le 30 P/E?????

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>>57502841
>>57502849
>le "totally not a car company" growth story

>> No.57502912

>>57502901
I remember talking about this and comparing Tesla to other automotive companies around the world. Right at the time Tesla was at a 1000 pe ratio too before it crashed lol

It's fucking insane how badly tech bros get in their own head. It's a fucking car company you can't escape those margins. There's a reason one of the first investments Buffet and others tell new investors is to never get emotional about your investments.

You shouldn't give a fucking damn what you're holding. If you find yourself coping and defending a stock like you would a sports team you gotta bail out, because you're in it for the wrong reasons

>> No.57502916
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57502916

>pre-futures

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57502920

>>57502722
Yes please how do I nvest ser?

>> No.57502930

>>57501617
This only works if you're not limiting view. This guy's asking to get mugged.
>inb4 streaming
yeah? you and everyone else buddy, we got real crimes to deal with.
>>57501386
Some of them cope with the rabbi by staying close, mostly the religious ones who put all their cognitive dissonance over not being able to prove to Jacob nor get clean from sins as Moses ordered into patterned larping harder than each other. Otherwise, no, the ones who can't get into being forgetful via head bobbing tend to just get ugly, in my experience.
>>57501363
That assumes that anyone is buying at these levels and it's not just a bunch of short firms. It is possible that the GME spike was too effective on one half of the intentionally fraudulent.
>>57502079
>What has fundamentally changed? A chat robot came around?
One that kinda stays on target and can use google search engines apparently.
>>57502687
See you at 4. Good luck Monday.
>>57502901
You do realize that there are literally thousands of publicly traded companies that would be pleased to get the income in each of those other sectors, per year?
>Great news team, 6 billion in revenue this year
>WOOHOO!

>> No.57502975

>>57502079
what I want to know is where the money is going to come from for all this AI nonsense.
Obviously the chipmakers will benefit, but why does the market seem to think this will be some massive industry?
Do they think normies are going to be replacing google searching for shit with a chatbot?
We've had Siri and shit on phones forever.
Is it other businesses buying subscriptions for chatbots from MS/amazon/google?
Wouldn't it be easier and safer to develop you own, with in house solutions to various uses?
What happens when open source chatbots arrive?

>> No.57502985

>>57502975
Well we're on the cusp of the emerging market becoming MASSIVE consumers. Look at the gdp per capita of major nations like brazil, mexico, india, indonesia, etc.

But the problem is that its too early. We're not there yet.

>> No.57503003

>>57502975
Siri is absolute garbage that hasn't been updated for a reason. They're working on something else.
There's no "house solution" or "open competition". It's not the source code behind an AI that's valuable, it's the training. And this training costs a shit ton of money, which only big players can afford. And you also need the computing power. This is why most of the in-house shit made on /g/ is lightyears behind what those companies can deliver.

>> No.57503006

>>57502079
>what has changed
chatgpt let normieville see what it can do - doesn’t matter if it ever replaces a single job, they believe it will replace everyone’s

>> No.57503011

>>57503006
>>57503003
The biggest issue with chat gpt or an actual good AI siri is making google irrelevant lol
Even if they just slightly intrude on google's monopoly that will fuck them pretty bad

>> No.57503019

>>57502975
What irks me about NVIDIA, that it is not even a traditional tech company like Apple or Amazon.
The only thing NVIDA has is selling hardware.
Apple and Amazon have other stable income streams.
NVIDIA has a temporary run on their products, that the market gives a 80 year valuation into he future.

>> No.57503033

>>57503019
??? are you calling Amazon a tech company

>> No.57503061

>>57503019
>not understanding nvidia's software stack
retards like you should refrain from sharing your dogshit opinions about things you don't understand

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57503084

>>57503061
all this is hardware, or am I missing something?

>> No.57503115

>>57502336
Lower your blinder, stupid

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>>57499943
Bitcoin will have a higher marketcap then every mag7 company combined by end of decade. ETF baggies and miner stock holders need not apply.

>> No.57503132

>>57502443
Pelley’s a leftist cunt. Green opening.

>> No.57503145

>>57503084
jesus christ I had no idea they made this much money from data centers
the fuck

>> No.57503193

>>57503145
yeah, thats the AI part
basically the question here is, that somehow AI will take over the world, that then justifies NVIDIAs valuation

>For NVIDIA, all that really matters is the Data Center segment, which accounts for about 75% of revenue
>While the Data Center business is growing at speeds I’ve never seen, that near-term success creates formable comps for CY24 and CY25.
>Those comps have lead investors to question whether the business can even grow in CY25.
>Jensen responded to the concern on the earnings call saying the Data Center segment “can absolutely grow through 2025.”
>His optimism is based on a belief that AI will transform the lives of most people, which includes the way we communicate, learn, work, and govern.
>To build this future, the need for AI infrastructure will go beyond the current boost in sales NVIDIA is experiencing from companies like Microsoft, Google, Meta, and Apple.
>In Jensen’s view, in 2025 and beyond there will be a ramp in AI infrastructure spending from enterprise and governments wanting to build sovereign AI.
>Given Jensen has an outside benefit from the progression of AI, it’s prudent to view his comments through a reasonable person’s filter.
https://deepwatermgmt.com/nvidia-data-center-segment-growth/

>> No.57503197

Stonks

>> No.57503204

>>57503193
From how I understand it, these last few years we're starting to see a new demand for data centers that are made for AI. Computing vast amounts of data in a way that conventional data centers can't do.

Now, how much of that market does NVDA own?

>> No.57503223

>>57503003
>it's the training
right, but didn't meta release an open source one? What theres seemingly only so much source material anyway for training.
But I still don't necessarily see an actual revenue stream from AI beyond the hardware sales. Is replacing jeet call centers with chatbots really that profitable?

>> No.57503229

>>57503204
they own most of it, the question is if there is ever increasing gowth for it
and their sales pitch is that AI is somehow going to take over the world and literalyl every countr yon earth will have to buy stuff from them
because their hardware is all they have

>> No.57503243

>>57503197
Most useful contribution in this thread.

>> No.57503257
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The entire concept that stocks will take a shit if the Fed cuts interest rates, because people will rush to move money into bonds and other methods of taking advantage of higher rates, is a bit ridiculous because it starts with the false premise that rates are actually high. Rates around 5% are still historically low, which is exactly why we've seen good economic data throughout this supposedly tight cycle. If huge companies are still raking in piles of money right now with "high rates", there's no way that they're suddenly going to be struggling with rate cuts. They're slashing staff and real estate holdings which is going to end up as billions in extra profit on balance sheets. Only boomer retards are going to jump into bonds, everyone else remembers how neon green everything gets when megacap companies have freer access to cheap debt.

>> No.57503268

>>57503257
what the fuck are you trying to say

>> No.57503272

>>57503257
>The entire concept that stocks will take a shit if the Fed cuts interest rates, because people will rush to move money into bonds and other methods of taking advantage of higher rates
people will rush into bonds once rates are cut?
are you literally utterly retarded?

>> No.57503278

>>57503243
I aim to please

>> No.57503280

>>57503223
imo it will replace all those code monkeys, designers etc for basic tasks.
who knows, it may even generate entertainment for the FAGMAN reality tunnels

>> No.57503287

>>57503280
actual software engineers won't be replaced
but I worry for all the faggot front end "engineers" that just use plugins for everything

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>> No.57503316

>>57503287
Yeah that's what I meant by code monkeys.

>> No.57503321

>>57503272
>>57503268
There are lots of retarded econ talking heads saying that stocks will dump once rates are cut, because people are going to be moving money into stuff like bonds while rates are still "high" at around 5% - as in, before further cuts and even lower rates. I know you guys can understand this stuff if you try.

>> No.57503328

>>57503321
That doesn't make any sense, who the fuck said that?

>> No.57503370

>>57503321
Gonna depend on more than rate cuts, imo. Not a bad thesis for some percentage. The question to them, why wait? if 5% is your cruise, why not take it now? EPS and Yields are bad to abysmal at price Am I really to believe they're all buying ATH NVDA / AMD /META ?

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>>57503204
>Now, how much of that market does NVDA own?
They own something like 90% of the market. The problem I see is that how many big players are left still looking to buy massive amounts of equipment? orders will go on for years but i'm talking about the insane levels they get from Meta and the other Mags? Microsoft spun up a new ai datacenter with nvidia last year. Microsoft also announced their own datacenter ai chip and google also has their own.

Also all the big players are looking to cut compete costs and have done so. Openai said they managed to drop the cost of gpt3 compute by 50x and already dropped the price of compute on gpt4 by 10x. Meta is also hinting that the massive gains in ai from scale is hitting the upper limit without new research. Which explains how none of the other big players have been able to beat gpt4 by massive margins. All the ai leaderboards show it slowing down, suggesting a research limit.

I'm gonna hold nvidia till q4, after that things will cool down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_bdU3LsLzE
Watch this.

>> No.57503385

>>57503370
>why wait?
No one is jumping into bonds because they know that investing in megacap companies is almost a guarantee of higher returns in a shorter amount of time. I just don't see a situation where that isn't true in the modern era. The companies at all time highs right now are going higher, at least for a few more years

>> No.57503392

>>57503321
whats going to happen is the dollar will crash in value once rates are cut
inflation will soar, crushing the dollar even further, and the FED will look like fucking morons
The FED is already sensing that, which is why they are trying to backpeddle on rate cuts, but the stockmarket is already all in, so they have already fucked up

>> No.57503394

>>57503380
At some point NVDA price heats to other producers. Ok, I pay an extra 1% on energy, and lose 3% capacity per chip, but I'm spending 60% up front on 4 year hold products? Best and fastest is really important in a very few things, especially right now where most of the earth is thinking of how they keep water running, not which % of the market they're going to corner today.

>> No.57503405

>>57503392
It's kind of funny that once the fed cuts rates the dollar, which is already barely 40% of global bonds, will drop way faster lol. Which will make imports way worse

>> No.57503412

>>57503385
I'm trying not to say this is a top signal. You effectively rewrote New Paradigm.

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57503415

>>57503257
>>57503321
>TLT baggies still thinking we're going back to ZIRP.
Maybe in 60 years.

>> No.57503420

>>57503321
Why the fuck would you dump stocks for bonds when the bonds go lower

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>>57503415
with the rise of natural interest rates it might as well have never stopped

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57503429

>>57503321
stocks fall after a rate cut

>> No.57503441

>>57503385
Mindset like this is why my investment grade 6%+ bond portfolio will turn a significant profit when I sell it and put the money into depressed equities later this year.

>> No.57503444

>>57502443
ffs dude.

>> No.57503457

>>57503429
If we assume rate cut happens because there is concern of weakness in the economy, then nose to tail they're gonna fud themselves lower imo. It's not a guarantee there will be some drastic market reduction.
>>57503392
If dollar drops, then is it right to say you will want to make sure you invested in US producers, because they will get the sales? That's e.g. big CAT, F, and,*shudder* DIS?
Still rolling dice on land wars in Asia. As long as Ukraine is getting US equipment via donations or partner purchase, those lines are fairly strong anyway.

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57503501

Should i buy American oil companies because Trump will allow oil production?

>> No.57503502

>>57502783
Good kiity, that box of leaves smells funny, ruins your teeth, and gets in the way of rubs.
All spaces are kitty spaces until you get permission otherwise. Going Tea Party on this desk, no scratch restrictions without representation. And by representation we mean when we say and no other moment.
PETM, PETS

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>>57503501
Producing is bad for oil companies
They unironically need to produce less to make more.

>> No.57503525

>>57503501
Biden has record oil production already

>> No.57503583

>>57503525
Elon is correct, barring sub-particle containment fields, Electrons are the best fuel for the near term.

>> No.57503606

>>57503392
>Has retarded take
>Capitalizes Fed
Wow color me shocked

>>57503412
We are literally in a new paradigm but pop off retard

>>57503415
As long as interest rates are like 5% or less in the US they don't matter

>> No.57503617

>>57503606
youre the retard here, who thinks people will "rush into us bonds" once rates are cut
you moronic nigger

>> No.57503620

>>57503617
I don't understand how/smg/ can be this retarded with bonds

>> No.57503622

>>57503420
Because the market value of long term 5% bonds goes up the lower rates get

>> No.57503632

>>57503622
Anon.... that's why you buy BEFORE the cut

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>>57503517
post the good version of this image please i need it im gonna bust soon

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>>57503641
fine...

>> No.57503671

>>57503617
It's not me saying it you intellectually disabled elementary school dropout. This is the narrative in finance media right now - that we're going to see the markets take a fat shit when rates are finally cut. Why do they claim this? Because they posit that Big Money is going to run to "still high" bonds before they go even lower, under the assumption that rates are being cut to mitigate overtightening a weakened economy. My personal opinion is that this is dead fucking wrong, like so wrong that I think it's intentionally misleading Cramer-tier FUD meant to muddy the waters and scare retail idiots into selling.

Stuff like >>57503429 is going to turn out to be a bad indicator of future performance, since those huge downturns coincided with the dotcom bubble and the real estate bubble. Most retail retards are going to say that we're in the "AI bubble" or some dumb shit but they fail to realize that we're just at the very beginning of it and not the 1999 peak.

>> No.57503674

>>57503632
I think that's what the other anon was trying to say

>> No.57503682

>>57503632
>>57503620
How the fuck are you guys not understanding the "buy while rates are still high" part of this concept?? Or do you legitimately think that rates are going to go from 5% to 0%?

>> No.57503691

>>57503671
Of course its nonsense, the Dollar is going to crash, though

>> No.57503705
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57503705

if i own MSCI NA fund, and get some random global one as well (50% usa), would getting Europe on top of that overdiverse ?
trying to consolidate portfolio, and getting rid of sector oriented stuff
and funds of funds

>> No.57503706

>>57503691
For what reason tho?

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57503725

Last year, I transferred some investments from one broker to another, and then sold them. Should I expect the tax forms from the broker to include the cost basis, or am I going to have a miserable time?

>> No.57503730
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57503730

>>57502079
Because the Mag7 are holding up the SPY.
Have you seen the chart? ATH. We are talking about Ai because if it doesn't follow through we are going to implode abit

>> No.57503739
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57503739

The risk for you TLT baggies is you already got the "FED cuts" rally, and now with CPI creeping up again and the FED saying they're keeping rates higher for longer, there is a real chance for interest rates to keep rising due to an increase in the supply of bonds issued onto the market by the Treasury while demand is still low. Yes, the FED will buy your bonds eventually, but between here and there you might be in for a pickle.

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>pre-after hours futures

>> No.57503755

>>57503706
because the dollar becomes less attractive, obviously
especially since inflation has not come down long and credible enough
even the Fed ackowledged that, which is why they are backpeddling

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57503758

Holy shit /smg/ is absolutely crawling with retarded never-AI boomers who unironically say "FED". Wow what a fucking mess.

>> No.57503759

>>57503682
The market is forward looking you tard

>> No.57503762

>>57503758
it is black history month have some fucking respect

>> No.57503767

>>57503755
Inflation has fallen drastically since summer of 2022. Almost two years of lower inflation readings. Bears can only tell people "inflation is high" for so long.

>> No.57503791

>>57503767
inflation has gone up in december
nothign to do with being a bear, just with reality
you CIA nigger
just off yourself already
you fucking subhuman piece of shit

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>>57503758
Back to your shitcoin threads.

>> No.57503856

>>57503650
sooo zased......

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>>57503767
What are the long term implications of the US treasury defaulting on Russian-owned debt? Not just in terms of inflation, which looks like it could already be bad, but also for future US debt holders now that we've set this precedent? It already sort of started with banks shutting down people's accounts if they made an anti-zog tweet, but actual treasury defaults is a new low for the financial system. Do you think some people in this thread could face bond defaults if the new AI-driven social credit system sees them post something antisemitic? There's a lot of uncertainty now in what was once considered to be a risk-free investment and I don't think we've quite felt the economic impact of that yet, although it's obviously brewing with much of the rest of the world seeking an alternative world reserve currency in the wake of these defaults. I'm quite worried about the whole thing.

>> No.57503912

>>57503145
>>57503193
It's not just GPUs. They make some high speed network cards and I think some other I/O.

>> No.57503924

>>57503758
>never-AI boomers
or just people not believing the insane hype from snake oil salesman
>blockchain tech will change everything!!!
>glorified chatbots new paradigm!!!

>> No.57503947

>>57503911
Wake me up when banks start shutting down the accounts of pro-palestine activists. Of course it's entirely likely that Jews are funding that movement as well so who knows. All that kind of behavior will do is cause bank runs, and as we saw earlier, banks can't handle even the most minor bank runs because they have no reserve requirements anymore.

>> No.57503960

>>57503947
this is probably already happening but much like the treasury default we don't hear about it because it's suppressed info in this increasingly totalitarian hellstate.

>> No.57503980

>>57503960
I'm really starting to regret mentioning this since I accidentally ended up with some underhedged margin positions after yesterday that I can't deal with until tomorrow..

>> No.57503987

>>57503725
>Should I expect the tax forms from the broker to include the cost basis
Yeah, look up ACATS. Doesn't hurt to have a backup of that info but if your brokers have their shit together the cost basis information should also transfer.

>> No.57503996

>>57503911
>>57503947
You schizos are too funny. Were you not around for SVB? Or the initial seizure of oligarch yachts?

>> No.57504002

>>57503125
>Bitcoin will have a higher marketcap then every mag7 company combined by end of decade
Do you people really believe this shit? Crypto is a giant Ponzi scheme and it WILL collapse sooner or later.

>> No.57504004

>>57503996
No one fucking cares about the yachts.

>> No.57504029

>>57504004
They mean exactly as much as "omg technically a treasury default!1!!" when Yellen says "these bonds now belong to Ukraine lol". Anyone who is on the fence or is going to piss off the West knows to take a step back from our assets.

>> No.57504040

>>57504002
Same as gold. That's hardly ever used for anything other than a pet rock you maybe cash in to survive hyperinflation. Its tiny industrial demand is analogous to Bitcoin's use in buying drugs.

>> No.57504049

>>57504040
>what is jewelry

>> No.57504068

>>57503987
Ok, thanks, hopefully they have it. When I look at the transaction history though, I see the transfers, and then the sales... but the sale lines have blanks for the realized gain/loss column... which is making me concerned.

>> No.57504072 [DELETED] 

Good thing there is no bad news.
Because if there was any bad news this market would surely go down.

>> No.57504082
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>>57503125
>Bitcoin will have a higher marketcap then every mag7 company combined by end of decade

>market cap of global real estate - $379 trillion
>market cap of global bond market - $133 trillion
>market cap of global stock market - $109 trillion
>market cap of global crypto market - $1.7 trillion

crypto currency represents 0.27% of all global assets
the global stock market pays out ten times the crypto market in dividends every single year
and bonds twice that

Crypto fags are somehow more delusional than precious metal retards

>> No.57504087

>>57503996
These have nothing to do with refusing to pay bonds, which to me was much more shocking. That has implications far beyond Russia and anyone on earth holding US debt needs to be wary now. If you're in the UK or something why the fuck do you think the US would take your yacht.

>> No.57504095

I used to invest in eToro until I moved to the US and they made me liquidate my account (and lost a bunch of money, fuck them).

Now I got these 1099-B forms from them, which have this box checked. Does this mean I *really* should report my trades to the IRS? I was planning not to as this was mostly outside of the US, but I guess I will be fucked if I don't since they already know about it?

On the upside, there are some losses so maybe I don't get taxed too badly.

>> No.57504098

>>57503996
SVB is exactly what I'm talking about. And like the other anon said, nobody cares about the yachts. The US currently hates Russia so naturally they are going to seize any assets they have here.

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>>57504095
oops forgot pic

>> No.57504112

Joke's on you, Biden. I don't even have a yacht

>> No.57504133

>>57504112
Why not? They're way cheaper than you think.
You could by multiple yachts for the price of a small 50 year old suburban US house.

>> No.57504152

If the gigadump hasn't started by March 21st 2024, feel free to screencap this and call me a retard

>> No.57504154

>>57504095
The IRS already knows. If you don't pay they'll come for you. If your net PNL was losses then you could get away with not reporting, but then you're giving them free money.

>> No.57504176
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57504176

Thank god I wasn’t born in india. Holyyyyyyyy fuck

>> No.57504202

>>57504154
Adding them to turbo tax now and reduced my pay by ~1k, noice.

>> No.57504207

Time traveler here.
SPY 4950 EOY, Bitcoin $26k EOY, and NVDA will make a bizarre business move somewhere around September that will make a select number of investors very rich at the cost of everyone else.
Do whatever you want with this information.

>> No.57504214

>>57504207
fake and gay, SPY will be 700 by the end of year

>> No.57504238

>>57504214
SPY could be 700 by the end of month

>> No.57504249

>>57501643
>Crown jewel of the Dutch industry
kek...half the shit in that machine is made in germany, and it was developed by an american company that asml bought...same company that developed duv. fucking always laugh my ass off when the dutch act like they invented the shit and werent just handed the keys for tax reasons.

>> No.57504261

>>57504249
i even saw a comment on the LTT video where someone who worked in the caferia had pride over working there..
>without us, the engineers can't eat and we wouldn't have the best
yeah like they cant just pack a lunch or go out to eat lmao. big time arrogance with that company

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>>57501379
if i was big in the the yids i would be trying to level things off right now.
historically, everytime there's a major war or famine the jews are targeted by the populations of their host countries.
they've had such a nice time in america because we've always been crazy prosperous.
they really jumped the shark with the most recent tunnel fiasco.
i would retreat into the shadows for at least the next 5 years while the pendulum swings back.

>> No.57504330
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>>57504261
Back when I was a janny at NSF they had a fucking cafeteria in that building which I always thought was fucking retarded. The kitchen staff absolutely destroyed everything in the building they touched and NSF would pay a small fortune for us to clean it up. The kitchen staff was also sub contracted like us. They were all way too goddamn lazy to clean anything themselves. We routinely would get asked to scrub the ceiling tiles in the kitchen which was a complete bullshit task, so I used to meet with the owner of the company I worked for and we would make sure to come up with a price that was so absurd that they wouldn't want to pay it, but lo and behold, they would pay it anyway. It was all OT for me so I made bank.

>> No.57504395

AI AI AI. This all people talk about. The boat has sailed people and there is no more growth in NVDA and MSFT.

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>>57501617
>OMG LOOK AT THE FUNNY DUDE WITH GOGGLES!!!111
Are normies really falling for this forced meme? Nobody gave a fuck about these nigger goggles when they first came out.

>> No.57504416

>>57504087
>>57504098
There's a difference between "we don't like you" and "we literally don't have the money to pay anyone". This is a case of the former.

Like if Xi canceled out everyone's chink stock ADRs. The companies themselves wouldn't go anywhere. Chinamen investors would shrug their shoulders and keep living.

>> No.57504464

>>57503272
Bond prices are inversely correlated with yields. Its not a bad trade going long bonds now.

>> No.57504487

>>57504464
Yeah and you dump them after the cut and put your money elsewhere.

>> No.57504558
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57504558

Every post in this thread is screaming top signal.

>> No.57504564

>>57504416
the fact your bonds are now at the mercy of whether the US "likes you" is why they are falling out of favor though. This has huge implications, it weakens us no matter what.

>> No.57504572

>>57501617
we now have a way to spot retards easily outdoors.

>> No.57504586

How do I learn stocks? I’m broke as shit and I want to buy a car.

>> No.57504631

>>57504558
with this post we don't have to worry about that anymore. we continue pumping

>> No.57504632
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>>57504558
Yep, S&P to 4600 by March.

>> No.57504637

>>57501617
>Apple fag glasses
>cybertruck
How much of a fucking faggot can one person be?

>> No.57504642

>>57504586
You do actually need some (non-borrowed) money to do this. Get a job first.

>> No.57504665

>>57504642
I have a job making £30,000 / year. Minus rent and expenses I can save £500 / month. When I start training to be a solicitor my wage will be reduced to £20,000 for two years, which is less than minimum wage. After that I could be making a lot more, the ceiling is quite high. Right now I have £1,500 in savings. I don’t live lavishly, the only time when I spend money is going for dinner with my girlfriend or going away somewhere with her. What should I do?

>> No.57504679

>>57504107
Yeah that box means the IRS knows your cost basis so you can't lie and say you lost money on all your trades. Anything you bought in the last decade is going to be a covered security

>> No.57504688

>>57504665
Get a better job or emigrate to a place with a lower cost of living.

>> No.57504693

>>57504665
Put your money in a nice stodgy mutual fund, leave it alone, and add to it from time to time. Save up cash to buy your car. Let your investment capital sit and work for you. Any decent mutual fund should be able to safely double your money every five-six years. Let the fund manager do all the worrying for you.

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57504712

>>57504665
>What should I do?
Save 10k open a brokerage account buy short term (1Y max) government debt and educate yourself about the market, banking, finance etc... read books, watch documentaries, go though companies financial statements, listen to people that know more than you etc... if there's a crash start buying stocks, if not keep learning until you're confident enough to buy stocks without any fear about them going lower, because you know that the company is undervalued. Or you could do it the hard way invest now lose your money and learn out of spite so you don't lose in the future.

>> No.57504717
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57504717

>>57504395
>no more growth in NVDA
That's what I thought mid-last year. But their earnings keep going through the roof and their ridiculous P/E has been even more ridiculous in the past and the PPS just. Keeps. GOING. I put a little money into it as an experiment and I'm up 36% in less than six months. To hell with it. I'm putting in more come Money. And yes, I'll follow it around with stop orders until it drives off its inevitable cliff. But I'm through fighting it.

>> No.57504720

>>57504688
When I’m a couple years practicing as a post qualified solicitor I’d like to move to Dubai or the Caymans. The UK is pozzed that I just don’t see any way to succeed. If I’m making a half decent income most of it will be taxed. There is no way to succeed in this country.

>>57504693
>>57504712
Thank you for the suggestions

>> No.57504722

>>57504665
>UK law students have to get by on $25k/yr
Holy fuck, dude... >>57504688

>> No.57504753

>>57504722
It's how they gatekeep jobs for the upper class

>> No.57504760

nvda opens sub 600 this week

>> No.57504769

>>57504760
Kek, so buy SOXL calls then? Got it

>> No.57504775

>>57504722
I’ve heard of some places where they pay as little as USD 16,500 as a trainee solicitor. They are able to pay well below minimum wage because you are technically an apprentice. Also, most places don’t pay for your school fees which amount to about USD 15,000. Im lucky that the firm I will be training with are paying for my fees, and even though that salary is miserly, paying me that much. It’s tough but it’s worth it when you come out the other end.

>> No.57504786

>>57504775
Where did the British sailing culture go? Why aren't they on Dinghies claiming asylum in more sane countries?

>> No.57504823

>>57504786
Keep in mind this is in a regional area of the UK, not London. In London you’d be paid considerably more. Going rate would generally be GBP 50-60k for a trainee in a top city firm, and 90-110k as a newly qualified solicitor. You’re still going to be taxed 60% at that band anyway, it’s pozzed.

>> No.57504829

BAKER BAKER

>> No.57504832

>>57504829
not yet

>> No.57504833

>>57504082
if it's currency then it doesn't have a market cap. this is forex 101.
but if it has a market cap, then it's a security, which makes it a ponzi scheme, because it doesn't do anything.

>> No.57504835

>>57504823
Keep in mind I said go somewhere with a *lower* cost of living.
This is like the people who keep saying relocating to NYC or SoCal in the US makes sense. It does not.

>> No.57504837

>>57504832
BREAD NAZI BE GONE

>> No.57504848

>>57504837
We've got a good fifty posts left. We don't need a repeat of last week.

>> No.57504853

>>57504835
Relocating to Dubai, the Channel Islands or Caymans are all feasible alternatives for a UK commercial solicitor that I’d like to explore after I have a couple of years of qualified experience. The tax is relatively negligible, and the quality of life and work life balance a lot better. There’s nothing worth staying for in the UK anymore, to become wealthy in this country you have to be born into wealth.

>> No.57504857

I've been reading picrel and it says that near the tops of bull markets there tends to be a slew of IPO offerings, I remember it distinctly in 2021 and there isn't much now except I think reddit in march. Could we be no where near the top?

>> No.57504866

>>57504835
No it doesn't. Those are our Londons -- crime, filth, and Third Worlders included, with bonus tent cities.

>> No.57504881

>>57504665
>making £30,000 / year
How do you have a girlfriend?

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>>57504857

>> No.57504921

>>57504857
>154 IPOs in 2023
>181 IPOs in 2022
>1035 IPOs in 2021
What the fuck was that about?

>> No.57504933

https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/5750492757504927
>>57504927
>>57504927
https://boards.4chan.org/biz/thread/5750492757504927
>>57504927

>> No.57504938

>>57504921
We aren't in a rising tide floats all boats situation. Money is all being concentrated in a handful of megacaps and starving everything else still.

>> No.57504949

>>57504921
VCs could take out the cheapest debt possible and buy IPOs that were guaranteed giga pump due to the horrific fiscal policies in place. When rates became non-zero they stopped opting into that risk.