Making a better dating app

[Anonymous No.57482823]

>be me 15 years programming experience
>10 years running a software company that i boot strapped and am about to exit
>full stack programmer and mobile experience, capable of making a tinder competitor mostly on my own
>understanding of the business and marketing side of things, not some random pleb that doesnt understand the risks involved and how much competition there is
>think tinder sucks, bumble is just tinder for feminists, hinge is just tinder with a different layout and you can like individual parts of their profile
>everyone i know hates the current dating apps
>think i can make something that serves ppl better, even if it doesnt become a billion dollar giant, maybe itll just be decently popular

Thinking about making a weekly /biz/ thread documenting the process of making an app, launching, marketing strategy, etc etc. An actual business thread on biz can you imagine. I already have a prototype built and a unique gimmick to the app that no other dating apps have done. I have probably 3 months of work to finish out the prototype and polish it before it would be ready for a market penetration test.

Think anyone would be interested in this?

Let's first start off with this, talk about what you like/hate about the top dating apps out there and tell me what you would like to see in your ideal dating app.

[Anonymous No.57482831]

>>57482823
The problem is always attracting women, better looking ones are picky and they're usually on Hinge. Really all you can do is attract more you women but you can't change their behavior.

[Anonymous No.57482834]

Why not just tell us what you are building instead of asking for fake engagement where you will ignore us and do what you plan to do anyway?

[Anonymous No.57482849]

>>57482834
Nah I'm not giving any details of my app until I am ready to launch it. I'm not giving away my secret sauce when I'm still prototyping it.

[Anonymous No.57482862]

>>57482823
the problem isnt the format of the apps its that men use them more than women do.

[Anonymous No.57482868]

Can I filter by race?

[Anonymous No.57482887]

>>57482868
Some of the apps let you do that already, I've looked at probably 20+ dating apps at this point

[Anonymous No.57482894]

>>57482887
NO NIGGERS!
BAN ALL NIGGERS. BOOM TOP APP

[Anonymous No.57482927]

Can I help? I’m not brown.
Hinge seems to be the most popular at the moment amongst my demographic.

[Anonymous No.57482928]

Give me ONE example on how you can make the expierience of a dating app better. Pro-tip: YOU CANT. The problem isnt the apps.

You cant change female or male nature. You cant change the culture we live in. Women will always be hypergamous and leave the average man feeling jaded. Men will be non-commital horn dogs and leave the average woman feeling jaded.

The only way to get around this is through religious brainwashing where the worst traits of men and women in relationships is controlled and the threat of hell is real. Only problem is nobody believes in that shit anymore.

[Anonymous No.57482935]

> im making a dating app, something better, unique!
>>what is it about?
>i cant tell you its not ready yet

ok faggot

[Anonymous No.57482937]

>>57482823
the only solution is to replace women with fembots
otherwise it will never work any better than current offerings
t. been on every app last month

[Anonymous No.57482955]

>algo that determines attractiveness on some sort of scale, i.e.1-10
> users aren't aware of how others look, but they know their personal rating. users don't know anything about other person personally
> personality test
> people are matched with similar attractiveness and compatible personalities
> option to date down lookswise, i.e. you're ok with dating a 6 if you're an 8, but nothing too extreme like an 8 dating a 3
> users don't text initially, the idea would be to get the number on the first date if feels are caught

It would be called "Blind"

[Anonymous No.57482963]

>>57482928
>>57482937
Most of the dating apps are 95% the same thing and based off of tinder which hasn't innovated in a decade.

I do not think that there isn't a better mouse trap to be made.

[Anonymous No.57482967]

I agree dating app market is real
I'm Asian so I use coffee meets bagel which I think is the best one. Bumble and hinge are tied amongst mainstream.

I would recommend getting inspiration and ideas from sugar sites. For example, seeking.com is huge male advantage because it filters men properly by high monthly expense. I get nonstop msgs there. In general if there are subtle ways a man can express his wealth level it would be Huge. Lack of wealth transparency is what utterly fucks dating sites because visual is easy (this is where chainlink comes in?)

Also big is video incorporation. Bandwidth historically has limited video usage but users should be incentived to video maybe through in app tokens or more daily slots matches (I agree with Philosophy of daily drop of matches for many reasons btw).

On secretbenefits (sugar sites) they have women validate by recording themselves saying "let me be your secret" and I think it's a great great feature. Should be applicable to both genders.

Thanks for reading my tedx talk

[Anonymous No.57482973]

>>57482823
NO DATING APPS WORK AND THEY NEVER WILL
DATING IS NOT A PROBLEM SOLVABLE BY SOFTARE
IT WILL ALWAYS DEVOLVE INTO LOSER MEN AND FAT LOSER WOMEN
THERE IS NO WAY AROUND THIS

[Anonymous No.57482974]

>>57482955
The average woman would be terrified about meeting a strange man they havent had any conversation with. How the hell would you even set up the logistics of the date if you cant text.

[Anonymous No.57482975]

>>57482967
>I’m Asian
stopped reading there

[Anonymous No.57483000]

Even just making one that's transparent about what the algorithm thinks of you. It wouldn't be appealing to females but if men could see their Elo score they would try to improve it. Imagine trying to get better at chess without knowing your score
You could integrate date reviews as well, if both users confirm they met they could choose from pre written compliments/roasts. Then share the reviews to the users if their answers match

[Anonymous No.57483007]

>>57482974
app would choose for you based off location
They'd be meeting in public without knowing their insta, phone number, etc. Arguably more safe than talking to someone for a couple of days and exchanging socials

[Anonymous No.57483022]

>>57482955
This is kind of clever giving users a hidden mmr like they have in computer games and matching accordingly. As t the least it would be a great experiment on how delusional people really are.

[Anonymous No.57483030]

>>57482823
you can't do that you're not jewish

[Anonymous No.57483042]

>>57483022
tinder already gives you hidden mmr based on swipe ratios, ever notice after youve been swiping a lot you start to see nothing but really unattractive ppl? you hit the bottom of the mmr

[Anonymous No.57483062]

>>57483042
This happened to me on Hinge after like 2 days. Fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.57483073]

>>57482823
delusional post

[Anonymous No.57483103]

>>57482834
The gimmick is you get a 15 minute timer after getting rejected to track down the woman who rejected you so you can rape her. It'll show a circle around her location kind of like in fortnite. It you fail to rape her you get locked out of the app for the day

[Anonymous No.57483132]

>>57482823
fuck yeah anon this sounds awesome

[Anonymous No.57483159]

>>57482823

How much did you exit for? What was your last product or what niche?

[Anonymous No.57483161]

>>57482823
biggest issue on dating apps is there is way more male users than female users. Also woman will only swipe on guys that are hotter than them. So they never match with their looksmatch.

[Anonymous No.57483167]

>>57483103
I'll give you $400,000 for 0.5%

[Anonymous No.57483178]

>>57483167
Deal

[Anonymous No.57483185]

>>57482823
There's one feature and one feature only that dating apps are missing: the matchmaker feature.

There are two problems with dating apps: talking online, and not being in person.

everything that happens on an app prior to physically meeting is a mistake. Conversation starters, the transition from app chatting to text, figuring out if this is a hook-up or a dinner date or coffee date, all of it sucks.

you start swiping. you get your matches. Only, instead of being able to talk with them, it uses open table or resy to book you dinner somewhere nearby. That's it. If you both confirm you can make it, the reservation is made. Then you go and meet the person or not.

This is the only way it could ever work. This is the only solution. Everything else is failure.

[Anonymous No.57483188]

too many faces for one-night stands. just have people post their nude bodies to swipe on

[Anonymous No.57483201]

>>57482823
There are exactly two (2!) quality dating apps out there: Interpals and Muzzmatch. Everything else is garbage.

[Anonymous No.57483203]

>>57483188
Can’t have sex apps on the App Store.

[Anonymous No.57483211]

>>57483201
Haven’t heard of either of these and I looked into A LOT of apps. Why are they good?

[Anonymous No.57483225]

>>57483159

?

[Anonymous No.57483228]

So I've thought of this a bit. In the past people were set up by people they knew. They knew temperment, values, personalities and looks and used that to set people up with each other. I'd have a simple personality/value test and then use either real customer "hotness" ratings, or some AI that matches relative attractiveness. Those closest matches get paired and then they take it from there.

[Anonymous No.57483244]

>>57482823
I had an idea of an app where once you matched, the app would display nearby public places like a coffee shop and the two would agree to meet at said public place. Also if you do a swiping feature keep the feature limited or locked out after a certain number.

[Anonymous No.57483257]

>>57483185
I had this idea last week. It’s a good idea.

[Anonymous No.57483265]

>>57483211
Interpals is more of an app for meeting penpals from different countries. It lets you search profiles, see who's looked at your profile, and message anybody. Lots of cute, mildly autistic, third world girls on there looking for an e-bf. Muzzmatch lets you see who matched with you, and immediately match with them. It also restricts swiping to something like 10 swipes per day.

[Anonymous No.57483266]

>>57483244
Fuck we are all having the same idea. I’m sure this will be built into tinder and bumble soon. Or maybe coffee bagel will spearhead it

[Anonymous No.57483268]

>>57482963
dating apps give women choice, choice paralyzes women and encourages hypergami
either you remove women or choice
this is why hitting on women irl works, choice is severely limited because less than 1% of men encountered will give it a shot

[Anonymous No.57483305]

Just copy the old OkCupid, don't get bought by match and be done with it.

[Anonymous No.57483374]

>>57483305
What did old okcupid have that it doesn’t now?

[Anonymous No.57483492]

>>57483374
>>57483159

No answer = bull shit thread, OP is lying. Congrats on everyone crowd sourcing for him. Kek.

[Anonymous No.57483527]

>>57482823
dating apps are just shit because women are shit

[Anonymous No.57483553]

>>57482823
I want you to make a lot of money and be very happy and successful. My advice is: don't let /biz/ or anyone at the internet for this matter discourage you. If this board isn't interested, document and record the entire process anyway, but to turn into a course that you can sell later, or start a youtube channel to gain subscribers that you may convert into customers in the future (selling coursers or anything else really) or generate new business ideas.

There's a lot of crab mentality and cult of loserdom going around, don't let that get to you.

[Anonymous No.57483669]

>>57483103
Kek and based raper
Captcha:wmds

[Anonymous No.57483682]

>>57482823
You just wanna have a weekly tinder thread on /biz/ you faggot

[Anonymous No.57483705]

I hate simps. Design your app around destroying simps.

[Anonymous No.57483709]

>>57483553
hey, I think you belong on reddit rather than 4channel, but I'll upvote your post anyway.
;)

[Anonymous No.57483725]

>>57483553
perhaps faggot OP should have started this thread as promotion of his prototype

[Anonymous No.57483783]

>>57482823

Ya, I'm interested in this.

#1. I'd say the first thing you need to focus on is removing ALL bots and accounts that have been inactive for weeks on the app. You need like a 4-step verification process.
- Mobile Number
- Email
- Photo Verification
- State Issued ID

Even the bots are so good now that they can get through even the Mobile number and Photo verification steps.

#2. An ad system is fine like every 10 swipes, but they're incredibly low quality and most are literally scams, like the ones on YouTube.

#3. Some kind of system that shuffles people that like you to the front. I have 10 women that have liked me on a dating app for a week now, but I can't even see their profiles and it's impossible to find them. The problem is, men swipe on 50% of the women they see, so it's basically first come first serve, which is in itself a problem. Maybe I would match with a woman, but she can't even see me because 1,000 other men are in the stack in front of me.

#4. More details in the bio and banning marketing by Onlyfans and Instagram prostitutes.

I'm tired of every bio giving you like 3 options for politics, like you're either liberal or conservative. More details for what people want. "I want to date" is a retarded bio input. Do you want hookups, fwb, 1 night stand, orgy, etc.?

[Anonymous No.57483789]

>>57483705
This.

Make it so you have to bid to get a match.

Highest 3 bidders get a match

[Anonymous No.57483793]

>>57483783
>This nigga tries matching with chicks way out of his league and blames they turn out to be bots

kek, invest in a mirror

[Anonymous No.57483800]

>>57483244
Yikes


This entire thread gives up icky incel vibes

[Anonymous No.57483822]

>>57483228

Boo already tried the personality test shit. It's useless. It'll still try to match a trad-con and a feminist lefty together.

[Anonymous No.57483855]

>>57483822
>trad

[Anonymous No.57483917]

>>57482955
>muh algorithm
this gay shit is what ruins dating apps and by extension, society

t. average looking male

[Anonymous No.57483927]

>>57482823
>Let's first talk about what you hate about the top dating apps out there
the women that use them.

[Anonymous No.57483935]

>>57483927
skill issue


have sex incel

[Anonymous No.57483940]

>Have a small device in your pocket that when used right gives you the possibility to fuck fresh 18yr old pussy whenever you want

>ignore it and complain about it on an online forum, something that is passed it's age since 20 years ago, that only other sexless losers use.

Why are you guys so fucking gay?

[Anonymous No.57483946]

>>57482967
That's pretty good points my man, nowadays with high bandwidth something like daily video uploads is possible, so people really get a feel for how "put together" the potential partner is. Kind of a proof of work.

[Anonymous No.57483959]

>>57482823
Hi OP, you sound like a retard.

Anyway, I sometimes think of making a niche dating site. Like a dating site for meeting people who's name starts with a particular letter like P. Like it would have Penny, Peter, Paul, Priscilla and various other people whose name started with P. Or maybe a dating site for people who live in odd numbered houses (or apartments, whatever)? You could also have separate dog people dating and cat people dating. Shit like that. I think it could be big, but not too big.

[Anonymous No.57483962]

>>57482823
You can create a better app, but the real problem is the culture.

[Anonymous No.57483963]

>>57483935
I'm engaged. my point still stands: HPV is incurable.

[Anonymous No.57483967]

>>57483962
>the real problem is the culture.

[Anonymous No.57484009]

>>57483967
You will never be a woman.

[Anonymous No.57484054]

>>57482823
1) if your app succeeds in customer satisfaction, people will delet once they find long term coomhole
2) you need to somehow make it not a sausage fest
3) globohomo goombas might come for you somehow if you threaten their social engineering goals
4) dating apps are spiritually evil and do not provide a net benefit to society. no matter what your little gimmick is, you are helping break down gender relations, empowering misandrist feminism, degrading the mental health of countless men and women, and indirectly preventing millions of humans from being born into loving familites

now post your foreskin

[Anonymous No.57484125]

Why do you think it's about some genius or niche idea?

Tinder is the perfect format and it's as basic as like the look of this face or not. The only improvement you could bring is not having an algorithm, but that would probably benefit the users for than it would yourself

[Anonymous No.57484133]

>>57483103
Shit idea but still

[Anonymous No.57484142]

>>57483793
He also thinks the girls that ‘liked’ him are lost in the que. Those are fat hogs you already rejected or bots.

Fucking amateur

[Anonymous No.57484146]

>>57484009
Im a guy, but im not a retard like you.

There has never been an easier time in history to get in contact with the opposite sex than now.

You will still blame women, you will still blame the app


At least post an (anonymous) screenshot of your profile or body so I can judge you.

Oh you dont have any? What a surprise you dont get matches! This is of course the fault of modern age, women and tinder right?

[Anonymous No.57484150]

>>57484142
People just need to learn to lower their standards.

Incels are notorious for being narcistic. They probably think they are 9/10 themselves, but they are out of shape, racist, only interested in videogames and dont even have a job.

[Anonymous No.57484161]

Imagine if this was real life.

Some other guy actually wants to help you.

And you will call him "Tranny you will never be a women!!!" in his face in real life too?

lmao just try to imagine this

You are helpless, ngmi

[Anonymous No.57484207]

>>57484054
>dating apps are spiritually evil

>emails are the work of the devil!

>Who needs automobiles?

I take so much joy knowing you incels are ngmi

[Anonymous No.57484238]

>if you are not chosen enough times, you are banned from the app for a week

Will make the app more exclusive and full of better choices

[Anonymous No.57484289]

>>57484238
post profile

[Anonymous No.57484332]

>>57484161
>I want to help you you incel retard
lol narcissistic delusions.

Given you are most likely a narcissist, you don't really want to help, but want sustaining narcissistic supply and not to provide help so KYS

[Anonymous No.57484337]

>>57484332
Very based

[Anonymous No.57484338]

>>57484332
>>57484337
samefag

[Anonymous No.57484356]

>Whatever needs to happen, anything but to better myself!
>No it's actually the woman's fault!
>No it's the dating apps that are at fault!
*gets good advice*
>No it's actually this poster that's at fault!!!

[Anonymous No.57484373]

>>57482823
You know that tinder doesnt actually make money right? The reason it does all the manipulative shit it does is to try to get at least some money.

[Anonymous No.57484382]

>>57484373
I paid for tinder when Tinder+ was still only $10 a month

it really were golden times

Then again I already had matches, so paying for that shit multiplied my matches by 10.

If you already have 0 matches, paying and multiplying them by 10 still equals 0 so don't even try you will waste your money.

During covid lockdowns they had like the Super Spotlight or some shit, instead of getting 10x more matches you would get 100x more matches. I literally had more chicks than I could talk to so I only picked the most attractive ones and closest ones to talk to. It was literally being a kid in a candystore at the time. All bars were closed, so there was nothing else to do than to go to their place or let them come to yours.

I want to go back, covid was the best time in history to get laid

[Anonymous No.57484391]

Tinder is shit specifically because it drives male users to spend money, your app will fail after a while if you don't steadily jew people with fees.

[Anonymous No.57484396]

>>57484391
>Tinder is shit specifically because it drives male users to spend money,

Now read that again, slowly.

[Anonymous No.57484414]

Tinder is fucking great. I do not get paid to post this however I will shill it for free with all my heart.

It is God's greatest gift to me.

I used to try to hook up with chicks using fucking omegle and wordfeud, or internet forums, or even adding friends of friends on facebook.

Do you have any fucking idea how fucking hard that was?

Then along came tinder, suddenly pussy was being handed to you for free, on the tips of your fingers, you would literally get to see a name, a picture and age of someone that was interested in you.

How the fuck you incels can complain about this shit is beyond me, it's like a bad joke.

You people are so fucking oblivious, it is fascinating, hilarious but also sad at the same time.

[Anonymous No.57484467]

>>57482967
Video!? Please don't try and make this the new thing, that's awkward as fuck, how easy would it be to screw yourself out of 8/10 dates because of that first video call

[Anonymous No.57484486]

>>57484467
You are literally listening to some larper troll retard that is shilling chainlink. No girl gives a fuck about wealth and if they do they are the ones you want to avoid. If you cant get laid as a poorfag you cant get laid as someone with money.

[Anonymous No.57484507]

>>57484414
>Do you have any fucking idea how fucking hard that was?
i know this is pasta, but i genuinely never had any trouble hooking up from internet chats
i landed a 5 years relationship with a 10/10 off a random text-only omegle session

[Anonymous No.57484520]

>>57484507
It's not pasta I just wrote it yourself.

Also you were extremely lucky then.

Trying to land girls on omegle was like:

>Go on omegle
>Need to know her age
>Need to know her sex
>Need to know her location
>need to know if she is hot
>Need to know if she is single
>need to know if she is looking for relationship/hookup

so many steps you had to do, tinder skips all of this basicly. Saves tons of time.

I did manage to talk to some pretty girls using omegle, have their MSN/email or whatsapp if they had it already (smartphones were brand new back then) so I could talk to them, but most were from a different country.

I dont see how thinking getting a 10/10 through omegle was easy is realistic

[Anonymous No.57484585]

>>57482823
i hate women

[Anonymous No.57484589]

>>57483185
It's a "good" idea because this is a generation of introverted retarded zombies who can only take orders. So the app directly giving them an order by setting up an appointment they freak out over and feel the subconscious need to go to all day is an acceptable idea, but think more about ways these zoom zooms and smartphone users enjoy getting ordered around.
You introverts hanging out on your PCs all day should know all about the mental health hazards of staring at a screen 16 hours a day without using your mouth and not learning to read human expressions and read voices IN REAL TIME.

>>57482823
Are you going to be an honest app or a moneymaking app? most jews say you can only be one or the other.

I say that you can be both if you program a way for people to filter through hair and eyes. But you'll need to convince 50% of women to use this app. Women and technology are polar opposites. Maybe add a puzzle game, a farm game, a management game, what else attracts women? especially gen-Z ?

Unfortunately men will have to be filtered because simps simply ruin everything. Virgins, beta orbiters, etc. too many hunters and too little prey. MORE LIKE TOO MANY SHIT HUNTERS. Too many shit hunters making fat landwhales believe they ironically deserve to fuck Chad.
We need to filter Chad and give Chad standards because as it is Chad turns into a simp by lowering his standards and he's willing to even fuck a ladyboy after 1 month of swiping endlessly with 0 results. We need to take care of autistic Chads and punish landwhales. Landwhales are a serious problem in this environment, so are those shallow elitistic 2deep4u primadonas who think they're hot shit.

Try to make an app that matches people with their clones cause that's what they deserve; a clone to see their own faults and improve from it (or wallow into deeper shit cause they start a circlejerk)
>>57482967
Get lost you fucking golddigger. Also a way to filter for gold diggers. Raise richmen's standards.

[Anonymous No.57484625]

>>57484589
>It's a "good" idea because this is a generation of introverted retarded zombies who can only take orders. So the app directly giving them an order by setting up an appointment they freak out over and feel the subconscious need to go to all day is an acceptable idea, but think more about ways these zoom zooms and smartphone users enjoy getting ordered around.
That's a fucking fantastic idea and I am going to monetize it if someone doesn't beat me to it

[Anonymous No.57484655]

>>57483682
>>57483789
>>57483793
>>57483800
>>57483935
>>57483940
>>57484146
>>57484150
>>57484161
>>57484207
>>57484289
>>57484338
>>57484356
>>57484382
>>57484396
>>57484414
>>57484486
>>57484520
holy shit have sex you troglodoid

[Anonymous No.57484671]

women are literal vampires

[Anonymous No.57484701]

>>57482823
How are you going to be different than tinder or inner circle?
You could do a new Kickoff based on the Instagram friends.
Dating apps were great in 2015-16. Chads though it was lame, so they wouldn't use, and you could find tons of hot chicks with low self esteem.
Now everyone is there and even faties are picky.

[Anonymous No.57484711]

>>57484207
kys chad

[Anonymous No.57484733]

Chads and stacies should be quarantined for the safety of the general public

[Anonymous No.57484789]

>>57484625
>>57484589
I hope some psychologist with imagination fills up the other 19 steps.
An appointment is just step 1 or option A out of 20, there's many many many other ways to manipulate an introvert. I think a sociopath would be a great dating advisor.

This is the most imaginationless generation I've ever seen.
If I ask them what they like they say "I like anything!" and then when I tell them obvious things they won't like "oh oh okay I don't like everything everything".
if you give them options A,B,C if you give them zodiacs, etc. and all that jazz they'll enjoy it and filter through it like a retarded dog without a conscious. They're literal manchildren who enjoy drawing by the numbers. Anyone who has even a little bit of leadership skills and dominance in him or her will be a genital slayer in this environment of easy to coerce sheeple. 1800s and 1900s people are hardasses compared to the 2010s and 2020s zoomies and gen-alphas with the attentionspan of a goldfish.

They're so immature that they don't know when to act non lovey dovey at the work and when to act lovey dovey, they think I have something against them when I tell them "not at the workplace, there's people here who can get me in trouble if they catch me flirting with a client or a coworker".
So they think you have something against them when you don't kiss their ass 24/7 at the fucking workplace, literal children.

BUT OH MAN when they act indifferent, unreasonable, etc. they're allowed to.
Please do, OP. Make the best dating app possible by pointing out zoomie's flaws till they improve themselves or get driven insane by their own reflection.

>>57484733
Agreed. They make fatlards believe they're hot shit who deserve sex just because chad/stacy fucked them that 1 time out of boredom and necessity.

[Anonymous No.57484837]

>>57484655
I have sex all the time

I enjoy and I mean really enjoy tinder threads on 4chan though, because it amazes me how hard people here try not to have sex

[Anonymous No.57484841]

>>57484711
I wasn't always a chad, 10 years ago my main board was /r9k/

[Anonymous No.57484880]

OP won't do shit because he's an ideas man and an incel that doesn't even understand people in the first place.

[Anonymous No.57484928]

>>57482823
the only thing worth doing is a concept like e-harmony: you answer tons of questions about your values and you will be able to see the score of those who match yours the most

[Anonymous No.57484934]

>>57484928
>your values

[Anonymous No.57484938]

>>57484928
problem: young women tend to be leftists and young men far-right but at least you can see those who closely match your values. i dont know how you would compete with e-harmony though

[Anonymous No.57485409]

>>57484207
>emails are exactly the same as apps that facilitate senseless hookups.
Lazy bait. Btw getting laid isn't an achievement, pal. It's not high school anymore.

[Anonymous No.57485441]

>>57484789
>So they think you have something against them when you don't kiss their ass 24/7 at the fucking workplace, literal children.
I agree, it's completely absurd. They have zero sense of self-awareness, discipline, or respect for anything besides their own desires and impulses.

[Anonymous No.57485447]

>>57484934
The irony is palpable.

[Anonymous No.57485458]

>>57482823
you're best bet is making a software where the user (female) is the product without realizing so your customers (male) pays for extra exposure to the product.
tinder and any other dating app does that already so you're chances are slim

[Anonymous No.57485476]

>>57482823
it's not about how good the app is, it's about how popular it is, and Tinder's already won for now

[Anonymous No.57485736]

The hardest part will be launch day. The app needs a good 10,000+ active users in a single city to function properly. The advertising cost to acquire that many users will be around 100k. This is just to test if the idea of the app works or not. If ppl hate the idea it’s 100k down the toilet.

[Anonymous No.57485762]

>>57484837
I'm having some luck these days, it feels so good man, getting what I deserve finally.

[Anonymous No.57485769]

>>57482823
How can I profit from this?

[Anonymous No.57485842]

>>57482823
Can you make a Discord or whatever group and put me in? I'm a cybersecurity student and I'm willing to team up :)


Side note: I've seen a few Tinder app on GitHub also. And I believe there was a homework of the school 42 that was replicating a Tinder app (and the code is available on gh)

[Anonymous No.57485857]

This thread was useful. I’m going to come up with a more structured post format and try to do a weekly post. When it gets closer to launch day I’ll actually explain the concept of the app and maybe show some screenshots.

[Anonymous No.57485879]

>>57485842
Ah this would have probably been useful months ago. At this point I have a prototype 80% feature complete. I’m finishing up the final features and then I need to do a UI/UX polish pass, which is what I’m worst at so it will take some time.

I would be interested in a cyber security expert trying to stress test my servers. Definitely don’t want any exploits leading to data leaks.

[Anonymous No.57485885]

I've had an idea about a messaging service where you'd be talking to people close to you in a type of public chatroom where people enter and exit the chatroom based on the distance they are from you

[Anonymous No.57485903]

One of my biggest unknowns is how to automate checking picture uploads to make sure ppl aren’t uploading vile stuff.

Anyone know if there’s a free AI or some software to check pictures like this?

[Anonymous No.57486080]

have unlimited swipes just more ads. bumble has like 12 swipes per day, i go on there and swipe and then go off. im not paying for that shit.

another idea i have is to create an AI chatbot profile of yourself. the opposite sex and your profile will chat and see if it can be a potential match. also you can tell an AI what you like lookswise in the opposite sex and it can just swipe for you. it can instantly filter out trannys and brownskins or fatties.

maybe even have a voice profile on what kind of voices you like in a woman. one of the sexiest things about a woman can be her voice and thats not represented by swipes

one of the reasons i like the AI Chatbot idea is to save people time and money. Driving 45 minutes to drop $50-100 plus on a dud of a date is a lot of the reasons I sort of gave up. video chats and phone calls i guess can take care of this shit but oh well

sorry about the rant but just throwing some ideas out there

[Anonymous No.57486088]

>>57482928
Only allow you to talk to one person at a time. If you want to keep swiping or be swiped on you have to end the conversation

[Anonymous No.57486090]

>>57485736
This.

I think there are a lot of hurdles here to make a decent dating app. Let’s assume you can create a bot free dating app, the number one attractor is going to be the female population on the app for both genders. I think both sides are tired of flakes, low effort horny guys/chads (me lol), and uglies.

If you can develop something AI powered I think you might have a winner. It needs to be a really good matching algorithm. Honestly having the users take a MBTI test is not a bad thing. Someone in here’re mentioned an attractiveness ranking system which is a good idea. I’d probably make it “hidden”. Someone 1-2 standard deviation outside another’s rating should never be matched.

The goal should be to get people on a real life date asap. That’s going to be hard. Also, guys will absolutely pay for a premium service if it’s worth it. I think you should go this route without making it totally pay for play.

[Anonymous No.57486137]

You should have a limited amount of right swipes/likes per day. Swipe spam is a problem, this is why the ugliest women still have hundreds of matches sitting in there, it inflates female expectations (or just fatigues/overwhelms them), and demoralizes men who are trying to be serious about it and pick out girls around their league.

[Anonymous No.57486191]

>>57485879
make a spinoff version for NEETs and fund it with a crypto token

[Anonymous No.57486421]

>>57482823
>Think anyone would be interested in this?

If it doesn't make single middle-aged men into agecels by default, those men could be, for sure.

That means, there should be females using it AND older guys should also be able to sometimes talk to them, as long as they somehow match.

Tinder by default filters out over 10 years age difference I think, unless women explicitly enable larger (why would they do so apart from a fetish?), and also tried to rip off the older on average wealthier men as much as it possibly can.

Even if the women somehow see the older dude's profile, they'll not typically match with him just because of the pic where he looks ...older. Can older men somehow display their attractive masculine qualities without having to compete with younger dudes in who is the most photogenic?

The fact remains, everyone wants the young women in their prime years
>they're themselves the most active in searching for a mate - with them the game is always the most fun
>the good older ones are often already taken, have children, or lost interest in relationships

If men over 30-35ish had an actual way to meet women in their twenties and early to mid 30s online, I think there could be a high demand for such an app.

[Anonymous No.57486444]

>>57485879
Not yet an expert, still working on my certs atm.

You can message me on tg @HypeRider

[Anonymous No.57486465]

>>57485885
those online chatrooms have existed since forever. it's inefficient

[Anonymous No.57486490]

>>57486465
I was thinking about it on phones, had an idea about people in a bus or train talking to eachother through their phones since it seems like people don't approach eachother anymore.

[Anonymous No.57486582]

>>57486490
i think there is a dating app that is based on your gps location? augmented reality may be the future of dating imo. you look at someone who is single and you can both match without saying a word. recently i saw some zoomie in the street and we eye contacted each other. would have she been interested in me? well with that kind of app we could send each other a match request without saying a word. if only one of the 2 is interested then nothing happens

[Anonymous No.57486627]

>>57482823
>understanding of the business and marketing side of things
This is my weakpoint. I'm a very skilled programmer myself, but i have no fucking idea of how to start an effective marketing campaign.

[Anonymous No.57486742]

>>57482823
i have my own ideas for a dating app centered around scavenger hunts/shared activities based around AI personality tests from chat questionnaires. incentivize deep connection not hookup by providing monetary rewards for repeated (documented) shared activities (eg volunteering, creating things together)

[Anonymous No.57486759]

>>57486742
>monetary rewards
that would be gamed like crazy with friends and people already dating

[Anonymous No.57486774]

>>57482823
>>everyone i know hates the current dating apps
thats just bc girls dont go on dating apps and guys cant get laid
hence no matches
you wont be able to change this much,

[Anonymous No.57486780]

>>57483228
This kinda algo is how match.com worked. Not sure why they lost market dominance in the app era.

[Anonymous No.57486807]

Good job 4chan, you have succesfully fudded out your peers at the chance of ever having sex. People take your incel and /pol/ memes so seriously they now give up before even trying.

I hope you're happy with yourselves.

[Anonymous No.57486863]

>>57486807

Nobody who ever had to be coaxed or coddled into properly chasing women will ever be successful with them. It's demanding and only the strong survive. If this thread makes you quit you were ngmi, don't worry. Born for inceldom or troonery.

[Anonymous No.57486883]

>>57486863
It is just not possible! Women can never have sex with guys it is simply not possible!

[Anonymous No.57486896]

>>57486582
That's crazy I already had this concept but with no money to build it, no need to telekinesis though, you have a machine in your pocket, those two link without saying a word, you walk away and if you choose to make something happen you will. No pressure, not chat up lines needed

[Anonymous No.57486913]

the tinder parent is trading at 16 PE there must be something horribly wrong with this company right

[Anonymous No.57486917]

>>57486896
>you have a machine in your pocket
that machine is a smartphone. i think i remember there was a dating app using gps locations and you could see people who crossed your path during the day

[Anonymous No.57486931]

>>57486917
Happn was great too, but not as good as Bumble and Tinder

[Anonymous No.57486944]

>>57486582
>recently i saw some zoomie in the street and we eye contacted each other. would have she been interested in me?

Either ask her, become lucky or get a restraining order, or swipe and see if it's a match.

The choice is yours.

[Anonymous No.57486955]

>>57486917
Yeah there is a dating app where that was the gimmick. Don't think it ever really took off though. Forget which app it was but I remember reading about it. I've researched dozens of apps to see what each app has tried. It's really shocking how many just copied tinder and barely innovated.

It's still shocking to me that bumble managed to get number 2 market share with such a small change to what tinder does.

[Anonymous No.57486959]

>>57486883

No I know it is, and I know pussies don't get laid, if you saw this thread and gave up you're a fag lol

[Anonymous No.57486984]

>>57486959
Im just meme-ing. I wont give up until I die. Some retards on this website, and to cope they find mind-liked retards as themselves, and they will spout incel nonsense as straight facts so they dont have to better themselves.

But its a good thing, weak genes need to die.

[Anonymous No.57487024]

>>57486917
Yes it is a smartphone, no need to make your brain the machine. I didn't know about this app but sounds like it didn't work well. Mine will pop up like a potential match, more overtly

[Anonymous No.57487027]

>>57484589
Kek imagine being an adult using the word zoom zoom. Peak chud

[Anonymous No.57487184]

>>57486896
>, no need to telekinesis though
the idea is just to have smart glasses and match with those who look at you in the eyes for 2+ seconds. at the end of the day it gives you their contact info. not interested in someone? just dont look at them in the eyes for too long

[Anonymous No.57487501]

>>57482955
The problem is that most girls are fat

[Anonymous No.57487565]

>>57482849
>Nah I'm not giving any details of my app until I am ready to launch it. I'm not giving away my secret sauce when I'm still prototyping it.
>guys help me build an app that takes a lot of work to do and is not for the average person
>no im not telling you any details about it because its too easy to steal
Fuck off nigger OP

[Anonymous No.57487568]

>>57482823
Tinder is already perfect as it is

[Anonymous No.57487825]

>>57483800
Ewwww right. Let’s go back to r e d d i t like right away. Yikes!

[Anonymous No.57487866]

>hey goys let's brainstorm a new dating app
>150 replies

cringe

[Anonymous No.57487912]

>>57487184
If someone is looking at you for that long you've easily got their number, no need for the silly gadgets.

[Anonymous No.57487924]

>>57487825
Please >>57483800

[Anonymous No.57487997]

>>57487184
what about if you're trying to establish dominance or intimidate the other person for looking in your direction while acting like your shit doesn't stink?

[Anonymous No.57488065]

>>57482823
I think the primary issue is just the profit mechanism, currently the incentives are to keep people using it so bots, hook ups, etc. is normalized.
Anything that's successful that results in a long term relationship will result in people no longer being customers. I'm not sure how you get around that.

Before that was normal the standard type (ala OK Cupid which was my favorite a ~decade ago, mostly just long profiles but also the stupid tests were fun to see how people responded to) was honestly much better then what we have now.

That sort of gets to the other issue of anything that involves customization/effort will probably alienate most people. Figuring out a way to
>Have a viable business model with an effective app (that gets people off of it quickly)
>Give more customization/in depth expressions of the people in a way accessible to normies
are the main issue.
Only obvious solution to the first one would be something on top of an existing app, or that offers some other service, because then people will still keep using it after it worked.

For the second one I think myspace might actually be a template. Have a bunch of extremely varied profile presets, allow people to create custom ones with their own styles, with different content. Maybe have a standard list for normies but also offer more in depth customization for people like myspace.

Would be accessible to normies and give a route for custom ones. Especially if you had a way to share "profile templates" and people could look through a bunch like theming.

Other random things would be like a deep learning matching thing for people who actually fit eachother
Maybe some kind of omegle mode that matches you with similar people but you are just immediately talking to them. You could have the swipe thing on top of it.
(I dont think the basic swipe thing is escapable even though it's bad, but some good ways to improve it)

[Anonymous No.57488190]

>>57488065
Hinge's slogan is "designed to be deleted"

[Anonymous No.57488370]

>>57482823
whatever you do, please force people to put down their race and let others filter by race.

the one im using I specifically clicked the box in my preferences that "Im only looking for white people" and i get flooded with black and brown chicks who didnt put down their ethnicity so they cant be filtered out

[Anonymous No.57488397]

>>57486807
4chan literally runs the world

[Anonymous No.57488632]

>>57488190
Yeah I mean they offer lip service to that but that's just marketing, the issue of how the systems are actually designed to increase profit is what determines who things work not intention.
Only thing that would guarantee it is one up front payment or maybe like, a week trial thats cheap + a larger upfront payment a week in but I dont think many would get that.
That would make the profit incentive to be to get people off of it.

[Anonymous No.57488929]

Ok how about this idea: after you match with someone, there is incentive for you to actually meet in person.
Like pokemon go, the two of you travel to a spot to "catch" a coupon, and the coupon gets better if the two of you catch it at approximately the same time (within 5 minutes or so). The coupon gives you a discount at a local (advertiser) date spot, and can only be redeemed if both codes are presented at the place together (incentive to actually go on a date there, and makes it very hard to game the system just for the coupons).

[Anonymous No.57489028]

>>57487912
nah, i just dont want to approach in some public transport and start flirting while everybody around is listening. that's the case for the vast majority of people. a girl can also stare at you but she has a bf and doesnt want anything more than feeling validated. but geez, how fucking cool it would be if we could start talking to people silently through implants like neuralink. you could have a convo with a girl 3 meters away without anybody knowing
>what about if you're trying to establish dominance or intimidate the other person
if you do it to dudes then you will likely have a match since it's covertly gay.

[Anonymous No.57489072]

>>57488929
>the two of you travel to a spot to "catch" a coupon
that's a good idea, or you have an AI that is conducting the date, making people play games to know each other better and build rapport

[Anonymous No.57489178]

>>57488929
>>57489072
that AI dating assistant can even guide them to the kiss, for example by asking them both for feedbacks during or after the date. the AI will know when she's ready and will notify the guy. it could also conduct the whole escalation and make them play a kissing game. this would solve shy people too afraid to physically escalate or guys going for a kiss when she doesnt want it

[Anonymous No.57489516]

>>57489028
Kek I get what you mean, I've had some ROUGH situations talking to women when other people are close by and it's quiet, sweating and bringing but I persevered because I knew it was worth it.

And who though coffee shop dates were a good idea? "So are you liking for something serious anon?" Next to a table on two middle aged women you're touching elbows with and getting glances over. You're bringing back some horrific memories mate

[Anonymous No.57489948]

>>57482823
we've had many discussions about this topic here and in /g/. if you want to get some ideas, why don't you search for those past discussions, you retard? I bet you could also find the same shit elsewhere

[Anonymous No.57490119]

>>57489178
This. There can even be webcam assistents giving spicy advice from a call center when it comes time to do the needful.

[Anonymous No.57490707]

>>57482823
i would love to see the documented journey of an app startup op
however your very specific choice has two problems
first as very obviously seen from your thread here you attract that special type of retard that shits up the entire conversation with their shitty projections and larps to farm the (you)s
as much as i hate to suggest it but you need to take this to a discord where you can insta ban this behavior at its first sign or every thread you make here is gonna be the same swamp every time

second and more business side, is you picked the absolute hard mode app to start in
data apps only work i you manage to acquire a critical minimum amount of users and you have to attract this number quickly before people that signed up just delete because too few users
this would cost you fortunes in marketing to be drawn down the drain with no clear cash stream

so conclusion it seems if you really want to innovate as a dating app you need to somehow make the pr side of it essentially free get your name out there organically so that your app runs at almost no expenses as it should be and then even the lightest add structure brings in profit
of course if i know how i would be doing that right now

[Anonymous No.57490825]

>>57482928
>>57482928
>Give me ONE example on how you can make the expierience of a dating app better.

>weight filter

[Anonymous No.57490924]

>>57482862
If you make men pay, everybody wins
Dev gets paid
Men find more women
Women auto filter out poor guys looking for a cheap fuck

[Anonymous No.57491121]

>>57483265
kek, literally two features that ruin business model of any jewish dating app.

[Anonymous No.57491343]

>>57486088
this is genius.

[Anonymous No.57491468]

>>57482823
The problem with dating apps sucking is literally that people don't use them in order to find dates, but they use them in order to satisfy other psychological needs. After you realize this you'll realize how useless they actually are for the average person.

[Anonymous No.57491493]

>>57483185
people wouldn't feel comfortable with that

[Anonymous No.57491580]

>>57485736
do you need a partner or investment?

[Anonymous No.57491705]

>>57482823
Id sign up for your app since I’m banned from tinder and hinge pof etc. I dindu nuffin. I’m an attractive 6ft white male in the top 5% of earnings in my area and I can’t even use their faggy apps because some fat cunt probably reported me

[Anonymous No.57491720]

>>57486582
>you look at someone who is single and you can both match without saying a word
technology (and vaccines) cause autism

[Anonymous No.57491736]

>>57489072
>in the technocratic republic the AI philosopher king will control all matchmaking for the greater unity of mankind

[Anonymous No.57491812]

>>57491705
>some fat cunt probably reported me
kek, many such cases

[Anonymous No.57491825]

>>57483022
>>57483042
>>57483062
No if it's a true looksmatching algorithm it would objectively rate people on a 10 point scale and not base it off of swipe ratios. Something like this would be a God send for online dating.

I wish I had it saved, but need I remind you of the webm of the morbidly fat girl caught in public on tinder swiping left on every profile? There needs to be a system to ego check women. Problem now is that guys get filtered out by girls well within their league. If she's a 5/10 then Chad's profile shouldn't even be shown to her. Something that creates 'pools' of similar attractiveness.

>>57483917
not if the algo actually and objectively looksmatched couples. The algo is fucked now because it favors women with ridiculous standards that swipe left on >90% of guys.

>>57483822
I've been on Boo for a while and the problem with it is that it uses the Myer-Briggs system which is complete horoscope bullshit. It just clogs the screen. I don't even look at it anymore.

[Anonymous No.57492420]

>>57482823
>Thinking about making a weekly /biz/ thread documenting the process of making an app, launching, marketing strategy, etc etc. An actual business thread on biz can you imagine.
extremely based. you should do this

[Anonymous No.57492463]

>>57482823
dating apps are only as good as the people who use them, and they're very frequently worse. your plan HAS to be to hit critical sustainability as soon as possible
also, if you don't fall for the social acceptability memes, you'll do a lot better. don't try to make everyone inclusive through settings restrictions

[Anonymous No.57492508]

way out-there plan: rank traits and that will weigh the options you're presented with. make people really think about the choices they put in their profile, like "I least want to date a nigger" or "I most want to date an indian woman under 26 who doesn't smoke"

[Anonymous No.57492525]

even more out-there plan: target high schoolers

[Anonymous No.57492546]

>>57492525
lol based dubs

>>57482823
op i'm morally against dating apps but i support the threads for business discussion.

>>57492463
yeah this part sucks.
>need good people
>need 100,000 users in one weekend (from earlier in the thread

gl op

[Anonymous No.57492633]

>>57492463
>if you don't fall for the social acceptability memes, you'll do a lot better. don't try to make everyone inclusive through settings restrictions
What do you mean? That the app should just have a high quality target audience?

[Anonymous No.57492646]

People don't seem to remember how good Tinder used to be. I smashed 14 girls in 2014 alone.

[Anonymous No.57492829]

>>57492633
Old apps like YikYak that had pretty stable audiences started restricting access and censoring people in the name of safety, which went directly against the user base's wishes.
Any dating service which doesn't acknowledge and pay at least lip service to all aspects of is customers, even the "bad" or controversial aspects, is going to fail.

[Anonymous No.57493960]

bump

[Anonymous No.57494537]

have one more bump

[Anonymous No.57494541]

>>57494537
why do you bump this crap tinder should be banned

[Anonymous No.57494792]

>>57494541
i agree but i'm interested in op's work which would theoretically kill it

[Anonymous No.57494887]

>>57482928
Retarded post.

[Anonymous No.57494893]

>>57484837
>>57484396
>if people spend money on tinder it's ..... le good!
>spend money to hav ele sex, incels!

[Anonymous No.57494938]

>>57482823
There was a guy within the last 5 or so years who wanted to make a whites only dating app. Came here and asked for advice. That you?

[Anonymous No.57495015]

>>57482823
>>57482849
this stupid, Much like The Simpsons covering every plot imaginable, every app idea has already bean created Yet, dating apps thrive on other aspects. if you have connections and VC approval maybe you could create a name for a few years to look for an exit nothing more

[Anonymous No.57495032]

>>57490924
seeking.com does this but then they ban you if you are obvious about offering money due to US prostitution laws
it would be nice to have a version hosted in a different country

[Anonymous No.57495214]

>>57494893
Tender is gambling, prostitution is a transaction

[Anonymous No.57495448]

>>57494938
Nope not me.

The fact this thread survived for 3 days is a good sign of the interest. Lots of ideas in here, funnily a few I already incorporated into the app so it’s good to see validation on my original design.

[Anonymous No.57495624]

>>57491825
>the webm of the morbidly fat girl caught in public on tinder swiping left on every profile
i remember that one, it was bleak as fuck
i'll see if i might have it but dont know for sure

>>57495448
if you are gonna do it op what phrase or image will you use to identify your threads, same as the op itt?

[Anonymous No.57495641]

>>57495032
Oh I mean pay for the app, not pay the person with whom you match

[Anonymous No.57495722]

Biggest problem with dating apps are the disproportionate amount of guys to girls. This leads to girls getting overwhelmed with likes and messages and gives them the pick at whoever they want. It gives them the opportunity to ghost or blow off someone at any given time if someone they feel is better pops up at a later time. You also have girls on there who have no intention of going on any dates and are just farming likes for an ego boost or promoting their social media. An app that doesn’t show how much your profile is getting liked and limits your matches/conversations to something like 3 max at a time can force people to be more selective and show that there is mutual interest between two people when they match. Once you hit your 3 person max, your profile is no longer is shown in the pool and can’t send out anymore likes forcing you to talk with the people you have matched with.

[Anonymous No.57495921]

>>57495722
I think the concept of my idea will help mitigate this, as it wont be based around swiping and has algorithmic rules about who you can match with. This should filter out a lot of the garbage matches and having to swipe 1000 times.

[Anonymous No.57496260]

>>57483201
>Interpals
You can't be fucking serious

[Anonymous No.57496286]

>some mentally ill tranny posted 28 times in this thread
>half his posts are calling random anonymous posters "incel"
>the other half are him bragging about how easy it is to use a dating app to get butt-fucked

holy fucking kek. I knew /biz/ had some schizoids but these /biz/ dating app threads always bring out the real freaks

[Anonymous No.57496330]

>>57491493
if you're uncomfortable going on a date with somebody you know you find attractive, who you know is attracted to you, in a public place that you know you enjoy being at, you deserve to die alone.

[Anonymous No.57496437]

>>57488190
>OMG but the slogan
Nigger tier IQ

[Anonymous No.57496466]

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[Anonymous No.57496477]

Why would you even want to make a dating app? They suck by principle and just make us all more isolated and make us live less in the real world. If you want to do good, try to come up with some IRL thing that makes people want to pair bond naturally.

[Anonymous No.57496541]

>>57495921
That will definitely help big time. Quality matches/compatibility and quality user engagement are what would make a good platform.

[Anonymous No.57496643]

>>57482823
>Think anyone would be interested in this?
I'd be interested in seeing your weekly threads, if that helps.

[Anonymous No.57496679]

I'm a code monkey that developed a new dating app with a friend. I actually think it was a good idea, but the issue is it needs a ton of people to be on it at once to work, and I don't have advertising money. Basically:
>Profiles, swipe left/right like Tinder
> You only see people within your immediate vicinity, within several hundred feet type thing. Ideally in the same establishment
>When you are liked by someone you are prompted immediately to like/dislike them
> If you both like, your app enters a match state. You cannot see other people until you complete the match. It shows the location of the other person and guides you to each other
>You walk up and talk to them right away. Either you exchange numbers or decide not to. Either way the match event ends.

Point basically is to just act as an ice breaker, force people to meet ASAP in-person. Basically just a modern confidence boost to know you can go up and hit on someone the old fashioned way.

Thoughts? Should I try to push the product? I spent about a year on it and it's 80-90% complete. I'm not as much of a poorfag now so could actually afford some ads, at least targeted to my local city

[Anonymous No.57496735]

>>57482823
as many others itt have said, the way to compete with tinder is to not make a “dating” app, but a matchmaking app. while anons like to complain about fatties swiping left on men who are out of their league and such, and studies have shown women are brutal on dating apps like tinder, studies have also shown that women rate men they know irl much more fairly. this is because women really do care about more than just looks. so, an app that asks users a bunch of questions about themselves, then matches them with compatible users near them, and even suggests a date that is compatible with their likes/hobbies/etc could definitely catch on.
the other option is to go full degen and try to outjew the jews, and just make a pay-to-play app where you don’t necessarily care if the users are “compatible” or not, you basically just pimp out your female users to the male users whom you charge a premium. at first you might think women wouldn’t respond well to getting matched with a non-chad who paid the app $100 to set up this date for him, but remember that women are (while still hypergamous) much more fair in their ratings of irl men, and base their ratings on more than just looks when they get a chance to actually know the men. so just setting normal girls up with normal guys (and perhaps giving an edge to guys who pay more) is likely to result in women being generally satisfied with the quality of men they meet, assuming they actually show up to the date and meet the guy.
as many itt have said, women spam left swipes on guys they would absolutely be willing to date if he approached her irl, so the way to compete with tinder is to eliminate swiping entirely, and get women and men who are actually compatible to meet up irl, where women will rate their dates less harshly, and you make money by charging male users to get more favorable matches or just to get more matches, etc.

[Anonymous No.57496755]

If I made a dating app, I would sneakly make awkward people have more change getting hot women.
With enough success, it could bring the world to a whole new era.

[Anonymous No.57496767]

>>57496679
I think the problem with this is you are assuming people are swiping while they are out on the town. I'd think a majority of swiping is done on the toilet or sitting in your pajamas on the couch.

You would need behavioral studies on how users typically use dating apps to really know the answer to this.

[Anonymous No.57496808]

>>57496755
Show this nigger the demand & supply 101 book

[Anonymous No.57497025]

>>57494541
So get rid of this and have one more crypto thread. Makes sense

[Anonymous No.57497090]

>>57482823
Any thoughts about a dating app that detects race and eye color, maybe hair (which is more difficult)? It could let them upload a photo of someone they find attractive and show matches based on that. Deepface in Python does a lot of this work already.

It will result in fewer matches but hopefully better ones. For personality, it could use vector search to detect similar profiles.

[Anonymous No.57497156]

Billion dollar idea: make an app for horny white snowbunnies who are looking to hookup with buff rugged African American men.
I would call this app "Blender"

[Anonymous No.57497186]

>>57497156
based but drop the 'e' in Blender

[Anonymous No.57497194]

>>57497156
>>57497186
Same idea, but rebranded: NGGR

[Anonymous No.57497251]

>>57482823
If you're looking for a market that's actually untapped, make a dating app for incels. It's a market that's only going to keep growing exponentially as time goes on and none of the existing dating apps are even trying to target it.

[Anonymous No.57497445]

>>57482823
>>57486088
>>57495722
>>57495921

All of these 100%. I've been using dating apps for years and have had many hookups and a few relationships from them. The main thing that makes them suck is the choice paralysis especially for females. You need to have the app allow you only a few matches at a time so you can actually talk and meet up with people. This will make people more selective of who they match with and lead to more dates too.

Also a good way to get rid of the attention whore women on there is to make it so a guy has to confirm that they have met in person on a date. If a girl doesn't get this confirmation from her matches after a certain time her account is suspended.

You can do something similar for all the simpy weak men and landwhale women too. If you don't get any matches after a certain amount of time your account should be suspended but in like a go get better and come back type of way. This would cut down on men having to swipe through behemoths and women swiping through all the mutant men

[Anonymous No.57497795]

the end game of dating apps is uploading your genome to get genetically compatible matches. also taking into account niche things like birthdays and zodiac signs (yes they are statistically significant). whoever implements these correctly will win the dating app market.

[Anonymous No.57497973]

>>57482823
>I already have a prototype built and a unique gimmick to the app that no other dating apps have done.
me too its called going outside

[Anonymous No.57498078]

>>57495921
If "algorithmic rules" is your "secret sauce" then you're absolutely fucked and your idea sucks ass. Save yourself the time.

[Anonymous No.57498085]

>>57497445
>restricting matches will lead to more dates
wrong

[Anonymous No.57498094]

>>57497445
This assumes your app STARTS with a pool of users the size of Tinder or Hinge that is also growing at X rate per month to account for all the users your temp banning. Dream on, this would fail and fail quickly.

[Anonymous No.57498111]

>>57498078
I'm intentionally being vague. I don't want to give away the secret sauce until I'm a few weeks away from launching. I'm still several months away right now.

[Anonymous No.57498174]

>>57498111
Is it some combination of overly clever tag weighting and ML? If you don't have the swiping, and you're implying you're not going to be using index lists like some dating sites/apps already do, then you're probably implying an "AI Matchmaker" app.

[Anonymous No.57498964]

>>57482831
>>57482927
hinge used to be the best but now is just tinder but worse. All of the basic bitches who cant find a guy because of their ego and plain looks went there. Its full of the absolute basic women I have ever seen. Things she likes: travel, Netflix, tall men. To top it off they are extremely plain looking. pre 2020 tons of good girls on there
>>57483185
horrible idea, imagine all the catfishing or finding out you dont click at all but now you have to sit thru dinner with them. Dinner dates always suck, a date at a park for a first date is the best 100%
>>57483201
interpals lmao

[Anonymous No.57499236]

>>57482823
Add a feature that sends older male profiles to 18-21 year olds. Promote age gaps in the algorithm

[Anonymous No.57499278]

>>57499236
based

[Anonymous No.57499378]

Looks like Panda is back. WAGMI toadies

[Anonymous No.57499388]

I wish that I could experience sex one day. It’s too late now.

[Anonymous No.57499579]

I don't want to be shown ugly or fat women at all.

Maybe your app should tell people where they stand.

Everyone has a score, so there could be like a little percentage marker on every profile that would let you know what the probability of them. Also, liking you would be. a complete score as well. Just to let you know where you stand.
For instance, you're in the 25th percentile of your demographic which isn't very successful. And let's say somebody else is in the 90th. Well the odds of you and them being compatible is like zero almost right and it should tell you that.

Another thing too is there shouldn't be some sort of algorithm. Algorithms are fucking stupid. It should just be random.

[Anonymous No.57499593]

>>57482823
i just want to get matched with AI girls. Is that too much to ask?

[Anonymous No.57500087]

>>57482823

Thanks for the thread guys. We got the MVP started and it should be done in about a week. Really appreciate everyone’s input in this thread, we’re taking all your feedback and putting it into the MVP.

[Anonymous No.57500125]

I bet if someone brought the original OK Cupid back and advertised it right, it would be huge. It's really fucking suspicious that most dating app companies that get a little successful sell out to match.com

[Anonymous No.57500143]

>>57482823
>Talk about what you like/hate
I hate dating apps because they seek to monetize basic human interactions that should be free. It is small-hat behavior and I am happy to have never used them. I met my wife without them, thank God.
They have impacted society such that approaching a woman in public is now seen as strange, but sleeping around with matches that the algorithm gives you is 'normal'.

[Anonymous No.57500178]

>>57496679
This sounds pretty awesome to have avsilable if it took off but I have no clue about the /biz/ side of things

[Anonymous No.57500193]

>>57496767
Well yes it would be better if you could match with someone you actually see

[Anonymous No.57500407]

>>57482823
>what you like/hate about the top dating apps
imo in concept the big three, tinder, bumble, and hinge, should be all fine. but they aren't because of either oversights or the fact they're bought out by match.com and turned into a means to squeeze desperate and lonely men out of every fucking dollar they have which is the most youpin thing they can do.
Tinder as a ui and profile making system is simple and does work but it has the reputation of being the hookup app that holds it back the most and I don't think you can program your way out of it even if you include looking for short term/long term, casual identifier things.
Bumble is, well honestly I never really had much success with bumble regardless of how much I pulled with tinder and hinge. But I feel the app also goes out of it's way to show me the least attractive people first as well as half the time never have the people who liked me back appear in my stack. If they're out of my age braccket or location then let them dissapear eventually not just sit there forever it's annoying. If they're fake then don't even have them because I'm not gonna be inclined to stick around for them to show up after 4 weeks being stuck in "liked you".
Hinge before it was bought out was actually pretty good, but I always thought 8 likes a day was way too restrictive and odd of a number. At least 10 I think. Plus the new trend of keeping the actual attractive users in "rose jail" is fucking retarded, just show them to me normally ever once in awhile

[Anonymous No.57500642]

>>57497795
Redpill me on the astrology and birthdays, genetics seems obvious but I'd definitely be into any resources you got for that

[Anonymous No.57500661]

>>57482894
LOL

[Anonymous No.57501311]

>>57483201
It's actually hilarious that the only "dating app" I've had some success on was interpals. Mostly tourist girls visiting but I even met my current gf there lol

[Anonymous No.57501342]

>>57482967
>seeking.com
So many ugly women on here. They figured out how to filter men but they did nothing to filter women. Really big dropped ball.

[Anonymous No.57501690]

How about a Dating App where people dont upload pictures of their Face but only pictures of their Genitalia.
Men have to upload their dickpics and woman have to upload pussy pics.
the face reveal never happens on the app but only when you meet up in person.

I call the App: Shlongi

[Anonymous No.57501992]

what makes your app different to the countless other dating apps available and how will you ensure your app will not fall though the same pitfalls as other apps you state

[Anonymous No.57502425]

>>57482823

It boggles my mind that Tinder is the most popular dating app by far. It's not too bad for something casual, but for forming actual connections with similar people it's terrible.
Boo and Okcupid are better, but have a lack of profiles.


There are numerous problems with Tinder, but number one for me is their algorithm. It so obviously ranks and shows people in order by their like count, it's kinda sad to swipe from the top through all of the instagram and onlyfans models to the very bottom of the pile and see all of the unfortunate souls clumped together at the bottom.

It's designed to show profiles that the opposite sex finds the most attractive FIRST, and less likable profiles are pushed to the back, or even hidden? This means that in order to be seen by people your profile has to conform to what THE AVERAGE user likes. For females it's simple. She can write that she is a child molester diper fetishist cryptozoologist in her profile, if she looks reasonably attractive or even mid, her profile is gonna get seen (because great majority of men don't care about anything other than looks sadly).

But for men it's a bit more complex. For example imagine being a male punk/metalhead/furry/weaboo/nationalist/anarchist/brony/beatnik/emo/cybergoth/cryptozoologist (whatever is not the norm in your part of the world). You will be shot back and hidden at the bottom of the obese deformed elo score pile of sadness despite being relatively attractive.

So now the paradox is that a female cryptozoologist cant see a male cryptozoologist, despite looking for him, because she is at the top and he is at the bottom despite being similar in objective attractiveness.

This is probably less of an issue in western big cities where there is more variety and there i say diversity, but in my second world insular enviroment this issue is evident.

[Anonymous No.57502508]

>>57502425
cont

What I would implement is listing people by specific interests. You could write down a term in your profile and click on it and that would list all profiles with the same term in their bios.

Also I would give everyone(or at least women) the option to see everyone who liked their profile without paying for premium options.

Also, it would be good to have a "zoomed out" group view of the profile . The standard swipe option would be still there, but it would be very convenient to be able to have like 10 - 20 profile pics at once on the screen. Some you really don't need to see in detail to know if they are right for you.

[Anonymous No.57502583]

i got scammed tonight for $200 (less than .25% of my net worth) by some whore offering me a nuru massage through tinder

[Anonymous No.57502606]

>>57482823

Anon, I hope this is real, because I'm going to effort post for you.

Are you familiar with how okcupid and match used to work? You should make something like that. People can make serious, fleshed out profiles, and favorite them if they think they might match, but don't have to immediately message. And, on your profile, you can see who has been looking. It's like taking a public space and turning it digital. People need a chance to get a sense of somebody, and no rush to do it. And, chances to look again and again, and having an accurate spread of who you can meet - not hooking people with hotties and then after they're hooked, giving them fats/trans etc.

Mimicking as much as possible, how people actually interact and meet, is your route to success. Likes can also be limited to like a 5 per week basis, making spam way less likely. And inherently more meaningful

[Anonymous No.57502702]

>>57483305
>Just copy the old OkCupid
>>57502425
>Boo and Okcupid are better
>>57502606
>Are you familiar with how okcupid and match used to work? You should make something like that

Haven't any of you seen the dating app that's shilled on /soc/ all the time? It's basically old OKC. It's definitely shittier than old OKC but 90% of the shitness comes from it being shilled "exclusively to 4chan"

OP can easily plagiarize it. It's open source and they even have a technical blog about how their algorithm works

https://duolicious.app/blog/psychoanalysing-chatgpt-using-statistics-to-make-a-decent-dating-app/

[Anonymous No.57502715]

Link to /soc/ thread where the dev shills his autism dating app:

>>>/soc/32880887

[Anonymous No.57502735]

>>57482823
Just make it all open source and freeware. Fuck up all the big tech chat companies

[Anonymous No.57503004]

>>57502735
>>57482823
The only way to compete with Facebook+Instagram+Tinder+TikTok is to break into every government's database and leak everyone's info online by setting up accounts for them and give them SMS on their phones and emails and every possible way to communicate that they've been matched.
Another thing is that you need something for non Americans too.
Basically you become the government-mandated dates yourself.

The best possible Tinder app would be one where a white person can meet another white person in China or India. That's the rule you need to follow. In order to do that you need governmental-tier information.
The main problem has always been the fact that women do not hang out on the internet, only weirdos hang out on the internet. And most people myself included do not have a fucking Facebook, Insta and all that jazz, most of us don't even have emails.

We also need to keep those stinking clubbers and golddiggers away.
This app would be used for even more things such as organizing protests and killing niggers.
Imagine if your app purposefully tried to pair up asian men with white women and african women with white men in order to fuck up the genealogy even further.

[Anonymous No.57503041]

>>57503004
Seriously; think of all the people who aren't even online. Think of all those Roblox kids, those Counter Strike players, etc. etc. there's lots of people without Facebook and even without emails.

[Anonymous No.57503050]

>>57498111
Checked.
Also heres an idea, put a bunch of buzzfeed style quizes in it with most being junk, but some of them leaning towards matching people in the system.
So the "which vegetable are you" quiz does nothing (maybe add a profile sticker?) But the introvert/extrovert or places to vacation quizzes will pull profiles together to match.

[Anonymous No.57503085]

>>57502606
Well I haven't wanted to give out much details but I will say that this is more how mine will work (why I said swiping doesn't exist). I wanted it to have more of a dating "social media" feel to it.

I am not familiar with how okcupid or match use to work before being bought out and turned into a monetization engine. Would love any more detail on stuff that has been lost to history.

[Anonymous No.57503269]

>>57498964
>or finding out you don't click at all but now you have to sit thru dinner with them.
but this is the only way to do it. It's not possible to find this out through texting or DMing. The whole point of the idea is that you can only accurately measure compatibility through in-person interactions. This is true and I will assert it until I die.

>a date at a park for a first date is the best 100%
I agree, but weather doesn't always permit this. Dinner would just be the most common option, probably. In your profile you'd be able to select what kind of dates you're interested in (coffee, dinner, public park, drinks, hookup) and prioritize/rank them, so when you match with somebody, it'll select the kind of date that has the highest score between the two of you. If you have no date types in common, then you won't even match.

Matchmaker is the only solution. You posed some good questions, but the answers just make the matchmaker stronger, not weaker.

[Anonymous No.57503275]

>>57499236
You don't need an algorithm to do this. Just remove age from the profiles for men altogether and nature would correct itself.

[Anonymous No.57504403]

>>57499388
):

[Anonymous No.57504696]

>>57483103
would join this

[Anonymous No.57504708]

>>57486088
how do you prevent the easiest work around?
>ask for ig,snap,number and take it off the app instantly.

[Anonymous No.57504808]

>>57482823
hey OP I'm a dev and I have a better idea that will produce relationships and much more if you want to help. Currently building it on ICP

[Anonymous No.57504854]

>>57482823
Do away with the swipe left/right bullshit, go back to the old school
>you make a profile, people contact you
model. I know this will probably be wildly unpopular with womeme, but it's a better model.

[Anonymous No.57504903]

>>57482823
didnt read, will this get me a skinny 50 year old gilf that lets me eat her asshole for hours on end?

[Anonymous No.57504930]

>>57482823
I just want a hooker app

[Anonymous No.57505201]

>>57504854
I recall the original tinder model (based on grindr) used that and it failed spectacularly because of the unwanted sausage fest. It wasn't until they switched to a swipe and match system that we have now that it actually became successful.

[Anonymous No.57506134]

>>57505201
I didn't know this, interesting. By unwanted sausage fest I assume you mean there was no filtering at all and the hot girls would get messaged by 1000 guys?

[Anonymous No.57507392]

Next week ill post about the tech stack and current problems im working on, long term concerns, things to figure out still etc. Trying to think what day is best. Maybe friday nights for the weekly thread.

[Anonymous No.57507599]

>>57507392
Break into the governmental databases. Most gen-zers don't even have an online presence. You have to make one for them.

[Anonymous No.57507606]

>>57502606
>>57502702
i wonder how many people will get catfished and blackmailed on that thing

[Anonymous No.57507764]

>>57505201
Sauce?

How was it possible for OkCupid (and similar sites which didn't use likes) to avoid the sausagefest?

[Anonymous No.57507880]

>>57502702
>>57502715
That "app" sucks dick. Every "girl" I tried to take off app ghosted me the minute they sent their usernames. /soc/fags are just as bad as women on real apps. Attention seeking cunts.

[Anonymous No.57508069]

>>57506134
Yeah basically
Even the most average of women would be swarmed with hundreds more messages than they could ever filter through even if they tried.
For an app like grindr where gay men are much more likely to want to hookup immediatly and were less choosy it worked, for women who wanted something more (in the early days of tinder’s lifespan that is) or just wanted a moment to breathe, it failed hard.
>>57507764
Good question, honestly I’ll have to look and see where it was I found it again since this was almost 6 months ago I found out about it specifically. Although Tinder being based off Grindr is no secret you can find that via google search easily.
If I had to guess how they did it probably by being first and marketing themselves as more mature rather than young and hip? I dunno I’d have to look into it

[Anonymous No.57508099]

>>57508069
I could be remembering it wrong, it could’ve been that the devs only tested it as a feature for tinder in it’s infancy and never went past that or something else but somewhere along the way they did try to have a system where you could send messages without having matched and it just didn’t work out

[Anonymous No.57508453]

>>57482823
Literally just make a dating app that algorithmically matches people with their real matches instead of deliberately keeping compatible people far apart. Dating apps today make their money by stringing people along for as long as possible and not showing them real potential matches.

[Anonymous No.57508482]

Market it as offering true choice and freedom to choose. Ban unannounced transexuals. I got banned from tinder for (I assume, idk what else it would've been) saying something slightly uncomforting to a tranny who convinced me in pics and didn't tell me for some amount of time in messages

[Anonymous No.57508495]

>>57482823
you have to be jewish to be successful in this field

[Anonymous No.57508536]

I'm curious have you done any market research to see more recent dating apps that started and how they got users/market share? Seems like the biggest issue to tackle.
Most of the non-big ones just seem to be targeting specific niches.

[Anonymous No.57508563]

>>57482831
and all that's remaining are average landwhale, mutt pothead, meth smoking sluts. after the long-winded fuck session, you really don't want to be around to hear them yap about their shitty lives

[Anonymous No.57508594]

>>57508453
you dont know how hypergamy works. there arent "real matches" in the way you think. if the "real match" would be shown only, people wouldnt use the app because for 95% the real match is an uggo landwhale.
there is no symmetry between male and female "real matches", because all women want the top5% and men are fine with top 70% of women

[Anonymous No.57508711]

>>57482823
>tinder dark
>dark
What the fuck is tinder dark?

[Anonymous No.57508724]

>>57508711
bro are you retarded everybody knows what tinder dark is stop being a dumbass and look it up god you are such a moron you make me angry

[Anonymous No.57508765]

>>57508724
Anyone else noticing these bot posts on biz? Wtf is going on?

[Anonymous No.57508769]

>>57504708
I think most women wouldn't want to do this, they're princesses their information is too previous, they can't just unmatch you at any time if it's not on the app.

[Anonymous No.57509413]

>>57508769
Precious*

[Anonymous No.57510189]

>>57482894
this, but don't let the niggers know, shadowban them

[Anonymous No.57512042]

>>57482894
>>57510189
This is so sad, women don't find you attractive, you don't know what to do with yourself so you blame black people. How will not having someone you're not attracted to around help your luck with people you are attracted to you but are invisible to.

Please answer because I'm genuinely curious about your logic.