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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org



>Non KYC:
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me



Official Gui/Cli

IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

>> No.57324302

Last thread was enlightening. Is there any ETA on when XMR<>BCH swaps might come in?

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P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe


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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****

Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.

>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained

>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes

>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard

>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable

>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball

>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated

>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides

>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token

>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch

>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam


- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.


>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!


>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)

>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing

>Monero-only VPS hosting

>Monero-only darknet escrow service

>Win XMR!

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>Gofish Market #
>Hectate Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>Wizard's Palace #
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/fknwLx6q

>LocalMonero is now available on I2P

Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project

or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/

>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund

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Reporting in
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

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>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.

>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!

>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.

>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.


The console is accessed via or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.

>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.


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I will use it. At the same time I'd like to move my BTC to a similar solution. Any good analogues of it for BTC?

>> No.57324476

I like seed signers, cheap and you can build them yourself

>> No.57324482

keep up the good work bros

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Seth works for them btw.

>> No.57324548

Ideally I'd like to use just a phone to not draw unnecessary attention.

>> No.57324561

Use Envoy then, also by Foundation who makes the Passport.

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With regards to Bitfags and their forced memes e.g. "muh store of value", understand that its not so much you they're trying to convince as it is themselves, sunken cost is a helluva drug and human nature demands some, any justification be found for holding on.

So don't take that shit too seriously, let 'em rant and rave, none of it will change the demonstrable fact that nobody actually uses BTC as a bona fide store of value and that what little use BTC still has as a medium of exchange is rapidly withering away.

Just sit back and enjoy the clown show.

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I personally don't hate Bitcoin, I just don't understand why they have to make up fake reasons to tarnish Monero. Like the Bitcoin University guy, he never gets anyone experienced in Monero to debate but just spreads disinformation.
Also the cope with reliance on a magical bloated layer 2 to solve layer 1 problems is bad engineering and bad software.

>> No.57324812

muh SoV is such a retarded last-narrative-standing that it demands nothing technical from the btc protocol itself (which is an abject failure in providing people with accessible transactions, and financial privacy).

literally maxis are fellating the blackrock to buy their bags to that they can keep yapping about muh SoV-king!!!

On the other hand, Monero:

>Full Membership Proofs

means: It's GAME OVER. Is your stack ready?

>> No.57325060

Both sides have a considerable number of people who proclaim the other side is a scam that is going to zero. Any attempt at finding a middle ground usually results in people on both sides starting another flame war, drowning out any discussion of a middle way.

>> No.57325121

has anyone here tried swaps.org?
they claim to have xmr-eth/btc/dai atomic swaps but it doesn't work on my computer and it's not open-source yet because they don't want other projects to copy their code before they have adoption

>> No.57325321

>just download my closed-source exe bro
Lmao, no thanks. And the site looks like it was coded by a schizo. Though I like the selection of Second Reality as music.

>> No.57326404

can i mine shit with an i7 7th gen?

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you can mine with anything fren

>> No.57326598

An i7 is better than what I got. You will probably get close to 1 KH/s. Do the tinker setup to get the maximum performance.

>> No.57326771

Not profitably with electricity costs, and only $5/month if electricity is free.

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>I just don't understand why they have to make up fake reasons to tarnish Monero

Because financially speaking, crypto is a zero-sum game, the liquidity flowing into Monero/altcoins is exit liquidity denied to Bitfag bagholders, it lessens the likelihood they'll get their bags pumped anytime soon, if ever.

So now we're basically in the midst of a ruthless propaganda war. Fortunately we have Monero-chan and superior memetic warfare operatives. Oh, and the fact that Monero is now driving BTC out of markets it has historically dominated, that's never a good look.

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It appears they are censoring me, I can't connect to the site. But it's fine, I think I will settle for electrum offline signing on the same phones as Anonero. I hope the functionality of Android version is the same as the desktop version.

>> No.57327586

It looks like p2pool has about 6.7% of global Monero hashrate right now on p2pool.observer so we're getting there.

>> No.57328605

Anyone know how to buy aged discord accounts with monero? inb4 why.

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>> No.57329322

People sell social accounts on moneromarket.io.

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Can't wait for this!

>> No.57329775

>Monero has improved on the scaling of other cryptocurrencies
How exactly? A Monero tx is around 2.11 KB. If 10% of the world wanted to use Monero once a day, a fairly conservative goal, then the blockchain would grow by 1.7 TB every day. Even if you goal was 0.1% of the world population, that's still a terabyte every two months. Cranking up block sizes doesn't scale to any sizeable level of adoption.

>> No.57330389

bulletproof++ will further reduce the size of the monero transactions.
monero has adaptive blocksizes so we don't have to fling shit endlessly between small blocker and bigger blocker camps. monero's own protocol adjusts its blocksize limit according to the transactions awaiting.

might not be the ultimate solution, but much much better than retarded bitshit's block size limit.

>> No.57331138

XMR chads
I want to buy $60,000 worth of XMR to start off my cocacola empire.
What's the best way to pretend I lost or spent this $60,000 worth of XMR immediately after purchasing it incase the IRS comes asking?

do I need a fake receipt from an overseas company or something

>> No.57331282

>What's the best way to pretend I lost or spent this $60,000 worth of XMR immediately after purchasing it incase the IRS comes asking?
If you're buying from a CEX like Kraken, tell them you fat fingered the receiving address when you took it off the exchange. I would even recommend writing up some panic emails to the exchange asking/telling them how to undo the send or something. Obviously they won't be able to do shit and they'll tell you that they're not responsible for any mistakes you make, but you'll at least have something on record around the time that you acquired the monero. You'll be able to point to those emails and say you had some kind of meltdown over losing $60k by accident.

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>> No.57332400

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57332426

>t.fucking scammer trashcan of a human being

>> No.57332594 [DELETED] 

you could convert monero to tether and buy from z2u

>> No.57332597

I like that.

>> No.57332895


>> No.57333853

You do realize that you just replied to a LEA right?

>> No.57333912

what's LEA? is it some kind of IRS narc?

>> No.57334155

What is Wownero. Red pill me on it.

>> No.57334343

I'm mining on p2pool mini but it really seems like p2pool mini is dying because it has so little overall hash rate. It can go a couple days without even getting a block, so a lot of the shares you do go unpaid (since they only last 6 hours). Was p2pool mini more powerful in the past? I only have ~10kh/s.

>> No.57334502

Bulletproofs++ don't get you the several orders of magnitude in reductions needed, and other improvements like full membership proofs will increase tx size, so it balances out.
Ultimately, Monero or any blockchain that gains enough adoption would need a layer two.

>> No.57334905

meme shitcoin

>> No.57334912

It's basically a test environment for monero devs.

>> No.57335535

o shit we're comin up on 10 years this April :D

>> No.57335896

>layer two.
no thanks we are good with our hdd/ssd's. I can grab TB's of storage space at quite accessible prices.

Monero rather needs to bring in
>full membership proofs

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Still having issues with low xmrig hash rate on an R9 5900x.
Memory timings are 14-18-18 and I've made sure that 1gb huge pages are enabled and detected by xmrig, but I'm still getting at most ~6kh/s.

>> No.57336728

Monero blocks are 88KB right now. If transaction counts were increased to Bitcoins level they'd be 1.92MB every 2 minutes, 0.5TB every year (88KB * 21.8X transaction increase * 262800 blocks/year).
Monero needs an SSD to run, not to mention the higher CPU & RAM requirements, especially if blocks increase that much. After years, semi-accessible SSDs still top out at 4TB.
So it's fine if Monero adoption isn't widespread (but adoption is good). L2 would become pretty necessary at that level and isn't a bad thing. L2 is blockchain agnostic.

>> No.57336851

>what is RAID

>> No.57336955

>Yeah bro, regular people will spend $660 on SSDs just to run a RAID Monero node.
The whole point of Monero is to be decentralized money for everyone.

>> No.57337177

I'd rather use transaction size, as that is more reliable
>455k daily transactions on Bitcoin
A bit short of 0.5TB, but it's true. L1 at such a scale is simply unfeasible to do. However, that does not mean we should abandon L1 entirely, for Monero to advance to an L2 it mustn't be done by the pressure of a small interest group nor should it replace L1 transactions and relegate them to a "settlement layer". That is completely antithetical to the main purpose of a decentralized record-keeping network. We need a functional, and relatively cheap L1 that does not exclude people based on fees, because if L1 is expensive AF, people won't be able to get onto L2, even if it's way cheaper.
Furthermore, LN is a mess. Routing in a trust-less environment remains an unresolved issue in computer science, LN development has gone to shit recently, node and wallet infrastructure is a custodian mess, and the current model of liquidity-based routing leads to a hub-based network infrastructure. Something, which Monero should avoid at all costs.
I don't doubt Monero users will have to start using L2, if for nothing else, to prevent chain-bloat. But the issue isn't exactly urgent when compared to for example Seraphis or p2pool. (Though I will note that PAYMO and other L2s are in development, most waiting for Seraphis). Before we step onto L2 we must definitely re-examine the issue, and implement a solution that actually works. In the meanwhile, the community's heavy skepticism is health.

>> No.57337188

20 TB SSD cost only 500 euro

>> No.57337233

>Imagine wasting time and resources competing with botnets.
Dude, just put it down. You're not "helping" anyone.

>> No.57337271

There is no world where you are reliably getting a 20TB SSD, or even 20TBs worth of SSDs for 500 Euros. Anything advertised as such has to be a scam.

>> No.57337329

What real benefits are even provided by "layer 2"? Doesn't it just offload the problem to another place instead of dealing with it?

>> No.57337430

>normies can't


>> No.57337464


Its going to be a good one! The new technology is absolutely unreal and its very exciting to be able to use it for this. This one has been in the works for almost two years but the technology had to catch up. In the last 6-12 months, the technology has so exploded that it is absolutely mindbending.

>> No.57337666

I don't say you should give up on working to make L1 scale better with smaller txs, more optimized memory management, etc. But putting aside the storage/memory/bandwidth limitations, there's still the point-of-sale problem, having 5 second transaction finality when you have 2 minute blocks and a 10 block lockout on subsequent transactions (latter to be fixed, I know). Chaumian mints would be another alternative, but more centralized. But further development on JIT or probabilistic routing is worthwhile even if it isn't urgent, and Monero could more easily support a better L2 since it is more willing to hardfork.

Every secure, decentralized blockchain eventually runs into the laws of physics, how do you synchronize thousands of transactions a second across tens of thousands of nodes without requiring node operators to run massive, dedicated server farms.
And it's an efficiency thing. Do you really need a mountain of security to process a handful of microtransactions when those transactions can be batched together while remaining permissionless. It depends on what level of adoption you're going for.

>> No.57337904

> Monero dev
lul, when are smart contracts coming

>> No.57338228

>Over promise, Under deliver
2 more weeks bro

>> No.57338295

I recently did a computer put together and it had 21 TB SSD option. For like 500 euros. Cope and seethe. It exists and it's cheap

>> No.57338522

anon that was definitely not 21TB of pure SSD that was likely 1T of SSD as cache and 20T of HDD

Still, this setup would be sufficient for storing the monero chain for years and years

>captcha: START

>> No.57338679

why would we need smart contracts you stinky pajeet

>> No.57339081

so cake wallet is already 6 years old?
and when are we getting rich?

>> No.57339118

Hi, not sure if this is the place for this but I think I just got scammed by Incognito market

>> No.57340011

Bros do I buy a car or 40XMR? I badly need a car, but how do I justify basically buying a shitbox instead of slurping the heckin dipperinos

>> No.57340031

Yes L2 would become necessary. I think there are some research papers on how this can be done on Monero


I run a node and paid 180 canuck bucks for 2tb wd blacks. With tax its like 100$/TB. But I also use glusterfs to make my node HA so it's 200$/TB or 100$/yr increase every yr for me

>> No.57340052

So that's <1XMR/yr? Might as well run some miners to recoup storage+power costs.

>> No.57340095

>badly need
Buy a cheaper car and the use the rest to buy XMR.

>> No.57340108

Here in Ontario that's about as cheap as you can get. I'm looking for manual AWD, and most options that aren't 20 yrs old are like 2x that

I don't want be the guy who's shitbox car actually ended up costing him half a mill few yrs later lol

>> No.57340152

I'd like to know this too, I've got ~11KH/s

>> No.57340227

>It can go a couple days without even getting a block, so a lot of the shares you do go unpaid (since they only last 6 hours)
Why's that a problem? Solo mining is the same but more like 2 years instead of days. Why would you want lots of dust anyway?

>> No.57340240

Have you tried mining to a normal pool?

>> No.57340246

Yeah at 10-13kh/s just mine to a pool that isn't MineXMR.

>> No.57340266

What's a good pool besides p2pool? The one I was trying was the mini p2pool.

>> No.57340292

Just focus on the car, you can make more money with one than without.

>> No.57340299

It does deal with it. Everyone needs access to layer 1 but not necessarily to any other layers. Imagine millions of transactions daily. If most of them were on side chains then a lot more people could comfortably run layer 1 and whatever side chains are relevant to them.

>> No.57340346


Fuck the haters. If you get more XMR by sometimes mining other coins that's a good thing.

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My shipment from MoneroMarket arrived.

>> No.57340745
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So Localmonero is compromised?

>> No.57340786

Use Tor Browser, or Orbot to route app's connection.

>> No.57340799

I think the leadership itself is questionable at best if they do this to "comply" and be good boys.

>> No.57340803

>0.5TB every year
that figure is quite manageable given that Monero would have bitcoin levels of use for products and services. I would celebrate this level of adoption.

As another anon has said, there are 20 TB size storage media. Even 10 TB would carry my node for 20 years. And once it is full, I would either prune my node to 1/3 of its size, or get another 10 TB, NAS,etc.


Focus on

>Full Membership proofs

and then cooling-off the dramatic protocol changes for a while to focus on mobile/desktop wallet usability and increasing the adoption. These are more important than some rube goldberg machine L2 fantasies.

>> No.57340880

use other dexes. use haveno when it comes out. use your local crypto atms to either buy xmr directly, or buy ltc and then swap into xmr.

ignore the noise. focus on stacking xmr.

>> No.57341128

HDDs aren't really sufficient for Monero now, and would be impossible at that level of throughput and SSDs wouldn't be nearly as accessible to consumers at that level. And it's not just disk sizes, it's maintaining fast access to the entire TXO set (not just UTXOs, but STXOs also), bandwidth, the extra latency of keeping nodes synchronized (which penalizes smaller miners more than large mining pools).
Jamtis/Membership Proofs are great, but both increase transaction sizes. Seraphis is great too, allowing log scaling of ring sizes and larger rings, but that will still result in a total increase in transaction sizes as well.

>> No.57341229

Yeah even with RAID10 7200RPM HDDs I can only barely stay synced on my node.

>> No.57341361

no problemo. I will get 2 8 GB SSD's then. And in a year or so, either their prices will get lower, or we will have 10 GB SSD hardware available to us.

Non. Issue.

>Seraphis is great
>Jamtis/Membership Proofs are great

>RAID10 7200RPM HDDs
I really don't get this FUD attempt around muh diskspace. I literally run a node on my android phone inside termux. But you guys do you.

>> No.57341370

Phone flash is significantly faster than spinning rust.

>> No.57341380

yeah then use it.

>> No.57341516

It's currently a non-issue because Monero does 31 transactions/block, 155 every 10 minutes. On Bitcoin it's 4000 every 10 minutes. If the goal is to take on that user base, or go even further, then just expecting drives, bandwidth, ram, processing power to all keep up at an accessible price point isn't a reliable strategy.
It's not FUD, it's a legitimate technical hurdle that is worth working on. That's like saying the people working on full membership proofs are fudding ring signatures. They're just improving the technology.

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>> No.57341586

That kind of thinking is why Windows, webpages, and almost all software is such crap. Instead of making beautiful, optimized code they relied on hardware improvements. So now computing is a massive shitheap.

>> No.57342658

LN on btc doesn't work. More and more people who know what they are talking about start to defect on the LN question: https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=fX6mfZgopEA

>> No.57343614

The thing is, this will only be a problem relatively far into the future when Monero is more popular, when more people will want to work on it, on better hardware, with more knowledge and experience. Even now SSD storage is pretty cheap, and there's pretty simple things that could be done that would let people scale across multiple drives if necessary. There's tons of fairly low hanging fruit for this problem that can be done even before needing to try to get transaction sizes smaller. There are lots of other problems that need to be solved first, that's why people call it FUD.

If you want to work on it, feel free, but your time would probably be better spent elsewhere. Outreach to businesses, starting your own business where you accept Monero, work on making multisig easier, creating a POS that will integrate with/provide inventory management, just to name a few off the top of my head. Those would all probably be a better use of your time to advance Monero than worrying about storage needs in 20+ years.

>> No.57345299

Hardware is cheaper than people. Software is optimized when it makes sense to.

>> No.57345363

Monero is the only coin that actually serves its purpose

>> No.57345375

will this thread die again?

>> No.57346052

Yeah if you're a retard that spends more than a couple hundred bucks on your mobile spyware. For the same price you can get a gently used 20tb drive from ebay that will go north of 200MB/s, without raid. Its also assuming you need a full node to buy your grey market goods or just sync transactions. KYS.
The reason why these threads die is because people who use xmr don't need to be convinced, the reason to keep them going is to give lurkers a chance to see through the gay ass jew fud against it.

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Next Monerotopia conference is going to be in Buenos Aires in December. Should be comfy.

>> No.57346547

just make the thread bot post a reply when its about to die.

>> No.57347559
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>Such based
>Much liberty
oy vey

>> No.57347565

He’s a big guy

>> No.57347567
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>> No.57347586
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>> No.57347820

Archive.is links don't work anymore, you're gonna have to update that link in your OP.

>> No.57347833

Yes they do. Stop using Cloudflare DNS.

>> No.57347913

>gay ass jew fud.
Monero fags spread more fud than anyone else in crypto. Fuck your dumbass larp shitcoin.

>> No.57348426

delisted wen

>> No.57349396
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>delisted wen

Next Thursday.

>> No.57350210

there are only a couple hundred public monero nodes. I'm hosting one and have a dedicated pair of 480gb ssds to my node. It would be very hard to host a monero node if we had the blockchain growing 500gb every year, I think unpruned its a couple hundred now.

>> No.57350554

Can't monero devs just optimize the code for it not to run like crap on HDD's? I think that would be the better solution.

>> No.57350562

The winning move is to set up an SSD+HDD bcachefs pool now that it's mainlined.

>> No.57350849

I think the problem is that you need access to the entire TXO set, and not just UTXOs, due to run signatures. In Bitcoin's case UTXOs are kept in memory, since the set is sufficiently small, but for Monero it has to be kept on disk in a database and only SSDs really provide fast enough access. I wonder if replacing ring sigs with membership proofs would help the issue.

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Will it go on discount? Should I hold off buying
until the next delisting?

>> No.57351426

Good to see the JQ people and the Marxist trade unions working hand in hand.


>> No.57351751
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Marx was a Jew. Marxism was spread by Jews. Marxism is still spread by Jews.

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>> No.57351821

Judaism is just part of Milei's suicide prevention policies.

>> No.57351914
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Delist eet.

>> No.57352140

Top kek

>> No.57352174

what a fag lmao

>> No.57352205
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>encouraging the use of XMR enables it to stay in existence
>I do not want that!!!

>> No.57352393

lmao onions fag
any guides, more info on this? I would like to learn.

>> No.57352468

>they haven’t tweeted in a couple of days

>> No.57352540

If you're running Linux 6.7 or newer you can skip installing the kernel module and just install the bcachefs-tools package from your repo.

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>> No.57352658


>> No.57352907

Any more detailed guides that shows setting this up with monerod?

>> No.57353342
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Hey anon. Did you bought anything on moneromarket.io today?
Maybe a telegram account and then a telegram premium subscription?
Maybe honey and some bee wax candle?
How about some goldback?
Or books to learn to be self-sufficient and how to survive and thrive during the collapse of the welfare state?
Or even 150 libertarian books for your kindle?

>> No.57353451

I like moneromarket but the ebook ads on there are bullshit.

Use annas-archive.org for all your eboom needs.

>> No.57353503

We need more producers of anime on the grey markets.

>> No.57353907
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Monero is unstoppable.

>> No.57353935

>total XMR balance: 78.49
wat means

>> No.57354051

>He said the le second best thing!!!

>> No.57354083

>Muh Raspberry Pi nodes!!!!!

>> No.57354765

>economies run on subjective value

>> No.57354846

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57355237

pretty sure thats his xmr balance

>> No.57355415


>> No.57355678

yeah i dumped my wow yesterday

yeah I'm coping about it.

thank god I only missed out on making like 200 and not like 2k

>> No.57355774

Also, we need more transparency and regulator-friendliness, but I am Satoshi. Please buy Bitcoin.

>> No.57355790

Why is it mooning so hard?

>> No.57356229
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*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Poker Night*****

Hang out and play Texas Hold'em with fellow MoneroChads safely over an anonymized network and hopefully win some XMR along the way!

Tor: http://dkforestseeaaq2dqz2uflmlsybvnq2irzn4ygyvu53oazyorednviid.onion
I2P: http://dkforest4gwaceahf4te3vs7ycddtbpf2lucocxdzhphezikdgnq.b32.i2p

Neither service requires JavaScript.

Dread: http://dreadytofatroptsdj6io7l3xptbet6onoyno2yv7jicoxknyazubrad.onion/d/PokerClub

You will obviously need to download and install either the Tor or I2Pd browser bundle to access the darknet.


You will also need an unknown amount of XMR to play. Don't stake more than you can afford to lose.

Optionally, you can voice chat and coordinate over Jitsi for a more authentic social experience. Jitsi is FOSS and end-to-end encrypted.


Note that unlike with clearnet gaming, playing over Tor with Monero is by far the comfiest way to play because your identity, IP address and money trail cannot be established so you don't have to worry about legalities or about the tax man coming to collect his share of your winnings.

Good luck!!

>> No.57357004

shitcoin with no actual use or value, rampant speculation.


>> No.57357064

It's just a filesystem, anon. Mount it somewhere and set your monerod user's home directory to somewhere inside the mountpoint.

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>> No.57357744

Probably an issue with Apple or Google in-app purchase/payment policies.

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>> No.57359472

Are you guys waiting for the dip after the delistings to buy some more XMR?

>> No.57359608

No, I'm waiting for more fiat to start mining.

>> No.57359762


>> No.57360191
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>> No.57360266

tell them your dog ate your seed phrase.

>> No.57360451

Is this atomic swaps? Is it good and working?

>> No.57360911

Any way to pay a PayPal invoice/payment request with XMR?

>> No.57361122

>Is this atomic swaps?
> Is it good and working?
Seems so: https://nitter.net/SamouraiDev/status/1748773807039381884#m

>> No.57362020
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Is WOW the backup token if XMR ever fails?

>> No.57362380

Swap to BTC?

>> No.57362437

no but it is the "monero" that basically everyone is okay speculating on.

>> No.57362705
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Are we being pumped and dumped on KuCoin?

>> No.57363435

But isn't it a perfect backup token? Hidden in plain sight and has decent tech for the purpose. The undercover aspect is good because it keeps gigacorp away, and token distribution fair for the time being. Probably will not be needed but good to have.

>> No.57363627

no, anon. Just because it's cool and you like it doesn't mean it's good as a currency, it is overtly a shitcoin, literally its name is a doge meme. There is fuckall about it that any non-retard would trust their money to.

>> No.57363652

The whole fixed supply thing doesn't really work with unlimited block sizes, it has no liquidity, being only on tradeogre, and is as everyone else has said, a shitcoin.

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make that movie!!

>> No.57365383

If crytocurrencies (using monero since its actually money) are to replace central banks, wouldn't it no longer be possible to recieve loans and interest? I'm still trying to understand the economic aspects of it.

>> No.57365404

I could still loan you some monero if I know your name and address.

>> No.57365533

What's the incentive for me to pay you back?

>> No.57365676

otherwise my private enforcement agency will hunt you down and seize your collateral

>> No.57365954

And then? I've never used BTC except for the old DM days so I don't know what "services" there are.

>> No.57365956

IIRC PayPal takes it directly.

>> No.57365971

>le interest
A sinful (((banker))) practice. Loans are still possible though in a high trust community.

>> No.57366038

Apparently you can't even register on Paypal without an ID (and I'm banned from there anyway).

>> No.57366466

Presumably, trust-requiring systems (banks, loan providers) will still exist in some form. Trust is often good in a society when not abused, a large section of the population will unfortunately never self-custody, and permissioned systems are often more efficient, e.g., loans don't have to be overcollateralized if you know your client has a house & a good job. The main problem with banks isn't that they exist so much as they're unaccountable black boxes attached to the fed money printer, which are fixed by having a neutral currency & proof of reserves/view keys.

There's a quote by Hal Finney on the matter, relating to the earlier discussion on scalability:
>"Actually there is a very good reason for Bitcoin-backed banks to exist, issuing their own digital cash currency, reedemable for bitcoins. Bitcoin itself cannot scale to have every single financial transaction in the world be broadcast to everyone and included in the block chain. There needs to be a secondary level of payment systems which is lighter weight and more efficient. Likewise, the time needed for Bitcoin transactions to finalize will be impractical for medium to large value purchases."

>> No.57366969
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God I love Monero. As soon as people start to realize this coin is the only crypto that has a real use case its game. Never selling.

>> No.57367688

You should sell your Monero, for goods and services. We aren't just line go up bag holders. We want to actually use it regularly to overthrow the state control of the money supply.

>> No.57368374

That got done in 2015 or 2016. Previously you needed to have the blockchain in RAM. Monero uses the fastest database in the world, the same type that is used by phone companies to connect phone calls. The inventor of that database, Howard Chu, actually helped the devs implement it and is a big supporter of Monero since then. Also he used to work at JPL and coded a much faster way of getting data back from the space shuttle when some piece of hardware failed mid-mission.

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>> No.57369147

U fellas orderin stuff on darkmarquets? I used to be a pretty prolific customer but haven’t used one bc since alpha bay shut down?

What are the best options these days for anons procuring stuff with monero

>> No.57369763

You're better off perusing dread.

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Anyone have a guess on timeframe for seraphis? Years ago i was thinking 2025-26 but I'm worried it'll never happen now.

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send me your most racist monero meme please. and remember racism is just the jews code word for anti-white

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the aids-tier captcha doesn't work

>> No.57374140

Just like any worthwhile currency you should have a stack for spending and a stack for saving

>> No.57374213

How to acquire xmr anonymously nowadays? I used to tumble btc to mymonero but that was before the kyc faggotry took over.

>> No.57375419

Cash by mail on localmonero.co is your best bet. You could put someone else's return address on the letter if you're that paranoid.

>> No.57377016
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Ironically enough, the quote from Hal was under a thread discussing MyBitcoin, which got hacked, got half of its customer deposits stolen, and the rest unaccounted for. Furthermore, he actually meant that L2 would be trusted settlement layer, and L1, the dirty layer.
>the time needed for Bitcoin transactions to finalize will be impractical for medium to large value purchases
>Bitcoin backed banks will solve these problems
>What I meant about purchases taking longer would be in the range of several hundred to several thousand dollars. [..] For a Bitcoin transaction in this range, the seller would probably want to wait for 2 or 3 confirmations to be safe against double spending, which would take 20-30 minutes. That's pretty inconvenient.
It wasn't even a thread primarily dealing with scalability (again, that wasn't an issue in 2010), but trust. And we can all see how trusting anyone in the cryptocurrency sphere turned out to go. Exchange after exchange collapsing, scamming, taking entire networks with them. Employing fractional reserves and inflating the supply, like seen with Monero. The vision of Hal Finney, the one where people are free to trust whomever they liked, more commonly referred to as free banking, has resulted in anyone capable taking their keys away from 3rd parties.
And do you know why? Because Bitcoin is a DIGITAL currency, not a physical one. It is meant for the Wild West of the Internet. It's one of the most minimal trust environments by design. You don't need a license, or ID to use TCP. Bitcoin and other better currencies alike were have been built to function under extremely adversarial environments. You can try putting trust into the equation, but it will collapse. Alternative, you build an extension to the VISA network. These are the two paths, Monero or Bitcoin. Online counter-economics, or a BlackRock ETF. This is how the game was set up from the start.

>> No.57377693

Why are we dumping?

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Monero is a terrible investment. Dog memes are where it's at.

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>> No.57379237
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Has anyone told the MGTOWs their assets are safe with us

>> No.57379296

I'm pretty much convinced that The majority of bot mining is being perpetrated by fed servers. There are open exploits in winblows server that IT feds are pointing botnets at. They are using it to generate enough xmr to spam the chain and identify decoys in real time. Is there any dev chatter about dealing with bot mining or enhancing obfuscation?

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Just had to pay $16 in BTC fees because this vendor doesnt accept XMR. How the fuck anyone can use that dogshit is incomprehensible.

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>vendor doesn't even accept crypto

>> No.57379508

The priority fee right now is 31 sats/vB, $1.75 for a standard transaction. Fees've been low for a while now. Did you send directly from Kraken? Cause if so it's the exchange that ripped you off.

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>Just had to pay $16 in BTC fees

Could've been worse.

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Yeah I did lol fuck me
Whatever won't happen again

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>> No.57381243
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>xmr price no longer shows up when you google xmr

>> No.57381391

nevermind it's back

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>> No.57381778

>Fees've been low for a while now.
>1 to 5 dollar range
you are retarded.

>> No.57382027

or just put on no return address at all

>> No.57382803

89% BTC
10% XMR
1% Whatever shitcoin you think is your „ticket“

>> No.57382902

for me it's ~80% xmr, ~20% btc. maybe I'll mine some WOW for fun too.

>> No.57382915

I'm seething

>> No.57382927


>> No.57382940

I meant Satoshi, fuck autocorrect.

>> No.57382951

Good morning, greetings from Germany. Wagmi!

>> No.57382958


>> No.57383068

>Fees've been low for a while now.
Look again bitfaggot.

>> No.57383112

I enjoy this picture.

>> No.57383401

How would fiat collapse, would oil become too hard to buy collapsing the economy or would the deflationary nature of technology like nuclear fusion and the deflationary nature of CryptoCurrencys collapse this growth based fiat model replacing it with Steady-state_economics, will bitcoin and by default monero rise if energy and food becomes almost free or will bitcoin and monero rise if the living costs of people increase the next 20 years.

>> No.57383604

Fiat is not going anywhere, neither is crypto. Gold has been around for ages and crypto is just the new member of the club, its not meant to kill any of the other players, just to compete with them and hopefully find a good use. Paper crypto is also here to stay.

>> No.57383944

Is mining monero profitable?

>> No.57384119

what you spend in energy you can buy directly in xmr

>> No.57384750

I mean you can't have infinite pools of currencys

>> No.57384776

>13 hours ago
>look again
>priority fee at 57 sats/vB or $3.13 at mempool.space
I don't even trust that estimation desu, it uses the mempool, but that is getting actively purged. If you want to see the real fees, you better look at the average. And that is sitting at $10, a singular Bitcoin block now has anywhere between 30k to 50k paid in fees. The fee market is in shambles, and it's only paying for 7% of the total miner reward!

>> No.57384840

>international unelected evil organizations demand a ban on monero public nodes
>ban on monero mining
>ban on sharing monero blockchain
>government follows
>laws are passed
how could I run a public node? tor and i2p?

>> No.57385202

What if I do it over the weekend and holidays when it's 50 percent cheaper?

>> No.57385504

follow the hashrate curve of the network.

>> No.57385968

Upload silent XMR miner to said international unelected evil organizations servers. (Click here for free world domination- limited time offer)

>> No.57386011

>banning p2p freeware

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>> No.57388489

Still not enough apparently.

>> No.57388651
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>this line since 06/2022 in the WEEKLY
>0 fucks given to the rest of the market

Turns out fundamentals actually matter.

>> No.57388729

wownero is cool and has a reason to exist, like monero, I like the experimental nature of it and capped supply, making it the best privacy coin with capped supply

>> No.57389191

If Monero is a currency and isn't meant to go up then why wouldn't I just use cash or USDT? I dont care about buying drugs and they have way wider acceptance

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I'm building a mining cluster. Once I mine some whole moneroj with it I will publish my method.

>> No.57390467

Fuck off with the spoonfeeding, no one wants to see your 3rd hand nuc "cluster" faggot.

>> No.57390489

It's a Kubernetes setup with full hashrate but OK.

>> No.57390591

sub 50 waiting room

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>> No.57390705

damn i wish. i slurped when it was at 100, if we get a fat dip when the btc etf's inevitably blow up, i'll be in slurp heaven

>> No.57390933

>Hive OS
Why do losers like get hung up on the gayest fucking trends? I swear its like merit badges for you nerds to slurp up even the most vacuous of tech fads.

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Show me on the doll where the devops touched you.

>> No.57391066
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This is exactly the sort of gay shit I mean. I have 10 machines running at any one time and you know how I know if one is down? I periodically check the hashrate to see if a worker goes down. Power cycle the psu, voila. You homos are jumping into the fucking matrix just to check on your bad dragon shipments.

>> No.57391091

this is a new genre of seethe i have not previously encountered

>> No.57391172

Use all the buzzwords you want pencil dick, but using all your free time babysitting computers to minimize downtime is not a hobby or a personality. I make monero for fun.

>> No.57391212

With those pay hashrates you're clearly just GPU mining other coins. How boring.

>> No.57391421

i dont even mine lmao, and yea dude you sound like you're having boatloads of fun

>> No.57391543

can my friend mine with a single rtx580?
he is curious if it would be worth it?

>> No.57391623

Why not? SSD tech is developing more and prices falling faster than HDD. It will probably overtake it in cost per GB eventually and if not then whatever it's still falling in cost pretty fast.

>> No.57392223

How does me giving the current fees generate so much seethe? And average fees are a bad metric since it's heavily biased by one psycho paying 2500 sats/vb. Median is better, though I've never had a problem with going a few sats above the lower limit on mempool space.

>> No.57392425

>>Hive OS
I always see it in connection with pajeet-ops so I'm skeptical of it. Seems like Snap/Flatpak tier nuLinux stuff.

>> No.57392475

HiveOS is great, remotely managing card/cpu settings, auto reboot. Manually watching your hashrate every day is dumb. At the very least you could write a little script for it.

>> No.57392925

What do we think of this?

>> No.57393101

ive been mining on my schools wifi, now my laptop wont connect to its internet. My phone and tablet still do. Did they specifically ban my laptop? Mac address or what?

>> No.57393205

Is p2pool mini worth it? Seems like it takes forever to find a block, but I don't want to use moneroocean.

>> No.57394252

/xmr/ bump

>> No.57394304

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57395070


Based thread savior.

>> No.57395918

It's overkill for one host but if you're managing a bunch of hosts (dozens or hundreds) it's super useful. The goal is to automate all the extraneous admin bullshit so it takes about a minute to wire up a new service with HA, loadbalancing, storage, fast scaling, etc. or adding a new host node.

>> No.57396055
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New anti-monero banger released: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaIuZkfVgeE

>> No.57396102
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Monero confirmed unsecure. Finnish police was able to track it:

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>Finnish police was able to track it:

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it's fucking binance, they're lying again

>> No.57396383

it's still profitable to mine so it can still be used. fixed supply is a strong positive, considering only fees can keep any chain alive, monero tail emission will trend to 0 in terms of value just like inflation is trending to zero, either it has fees and grows or it stays small.
maybe a boomer wouldn't trust it, but for younger generations the vibe is certainly not a turnoff, considering how retarded is the things that gets their interest, and it's cultural so they won't really change as they grow up

>> No.57396524

Well it could be an attack vector if everyone is just moving Monero from exchange>wallet>exchange, especially if exchanges were sharing information.

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>Monero confirmed unsecure. Finnish police was able to track it:

>As reported by Helsingin Sanomat, a police investigation paid bitcoin to the address of ‘ransom_man.’ Prosecutors claim the crypto transactions from this investigation have led them to the bank accounts of Kivimäki.


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Swapping a very specific amount of KYC'd BTC to XMR and then back to KYC'd BTC again within a short window of time can also ID your ass.

Good OPSEC isn't just about what tech you use, its also about how you use it.

>> No.57396832

Is it safe to transfer all of my XMR to another wallet in a single transaction, or should I spread it out? Some of my XMR was obtained from a party that has some info about me.

>> No.57396913

Amounts are hidden so it doesn't male a difference. The issue is more that exchanges have the private keys for outgoing wallets, so if a ton of people use exchange wallets they can start eliminating ring sig members

>> No.57396931

Though large transfers should always be done in two parts, a small initial transaction to check you got everything correct.

>> No.57398013

>The issue is more that exchanges have the private keys for outgoing wallets, so if a ton of people use exchange wallets they can start eliminating ring sig members
That's why you have your real storage in a separate wallet that never communicates with an exchange.

>> No.57398375

are you the black gentleman in the picture
because i think you are

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>> No.57400000

I do not purchase things I do not have a day-to-day use case for. Doing that would lead to materialism desu.

>> No.57400055

This type of rhetoric is dangerous to the transactional freedom underlying the fundamentals that Bitcoin was built upon.

>> No.57400989

>Paying someone fiat to use freeware
Even if you had 200kh/s go offline for a whole day due to negligence, its still less than paypigging for the pleasure of babysitting and pushing the same button for a reset while wearing your programming socks.
>At the very least you could write a little script for it.
XMRig doesn't even have a watchdog, I'd be genuinely curious to know how you would even do that. I might even stop calling you a gay loser.
The way these fags find ways to overcomplicate their lives for e-peen is hilarious to me. I'm probably the least cyber guy in this thread but am outhashing them for fun.
Change the mac address, HACK THE PLANET.
It obviously has its uses, and if it is your bread and butter then go with God. But the effort to automate mining hardware outweighs the fix of "oh shit miner POWERBOTTOM69 hung up today, let me power cycle it."

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>> No.57403125

Just dumped the last of my btc for monero. Not buying their bullshit narratives anymore, btc is dying while xmr is the future. Lets gooooooooo

>> No.57403131

she'g going fast!

>> No.57403137

What else to buy after participating in the Cogwise presale?

>> No.57403393

i wish i could able to pay my university semester exam fees, I dont want to lose my educational career.

>> No.57403397

Should I create a ERC-721 scontract for auctioning XMR for NFTs?
The only issue is it would be the wallet storing mechanism due to the viral profit-share method I've thought up. It might end up being traceable.

idk man i'm no coder, literally just having grok do it for me lmao

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i did this at .05, .04, and .03
it's all so tiresome

>> No.57403444

I am currently studing in university, 1st year student. 2nd semester is going on. I have only one day left to pay for my semester exam fees, still i am short of 863$, i really dont know what to do now.

I am also a graphics designer. I try my best to seach for works , but failed. I dont know what to do now. i never thought that one day i have to come to this platform to ask help.

i really dont want to lose my educational career. can anyone please helps me out from this situiation?

>> No.57403453

It lets the user decide which sidechains he wants to run on his computer. like maybe there's a sidechain for NFTs or a wrapped ethereum bridge or whatever and you don't care about that then you can just run vanilla Layer 1

>> No.57403463

Fiat will collapse when a more convenient-to-use currency product presents itself. At the moment nothing beats a regular visa card for paying for legal shit

>> No.57403470

Funny, I was considering doing the opposite

>> No.57403686
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most of them are still on the "blue chip" bandwagon.

>> No.57404339

What is the MGTOWs?

>> No.57404359

I'm Satoshi

>> No.57405184


Curious, what do you find so compelling about BTC in 2024?

>> No.57406224
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May I have some BTC

>> No.57406524

will we break .004 again?

>> No.57406585

do you think serai will reveal xmr's true buying pressure or is this cope??

>> No.57407162

So far the old man is the most interesting, even if he did not say much. And the russian guy is intolerable.

>> No.57407311


>> No.57407434

What's the best way to trade from fiat to XRM on localmonero? In the sense of not getting anally probed by the taxmen or the other parasites.

>> No.57407452

Is that trustworthy? I remember people complaining that we have no clue who runs it. Though, why do I care, as long as I can send my physical address encrypted to the seller.

>> No.57407463

monero dev fund got stolen

>> No.57407601

Glad they put the video up. I missed a chunk of that discussion.

>> No.57407711

I know, and I don't care that much, and I'm asking about moneromarket.io specifically if it's trustworthy.

>> No.57407759

It's kinda late now. You should have asked for help balancing your budget before you end up at the point where you can't afford things that you value that much.

>> No.57408972


this faggot blocked me because muh antisemitism
fuck (((keynesians)))
god bless motherfucking monero

>> No.57408983

the FUD is so bullish unironically

>> No.57409083

Hey XMRbros
I've never really used monero but I want to start rotating my ETH shitcoin trading profits into it as more of a savings (and to ideally not get tracked by glowniggers)
Whats the best place to do ETH<>XMR, without KYC? I'll probably only be buying 1-2 XMR a week, so it wont be very high volume from me.

>> No.57409086

Happy to know you're still breathing, my friend. I'll keep praying for you.

>> No.57409104

Also whats the recommended XMR wallet? I've got a steel sheet i stamp my key words into for my LTC and BTC wallets, and ideally I'd do the same for my XMR one.

>> No.57409109

thank you brother

>> No.57409143
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will get banned for this
>pic related, kek

>> No.57409175

I'm unironically opening up a kebab shop,
trying to at least

>> No.57409177

Use feather, it generates a 16-word seed so it's easier to remember. And the official wallet will switch to it later too. But both Feather and the official GUI wallet are good.

>> No.57409221
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The captain is coming back with new tales of pillage from the dark seas

>> No.57409290

Thanks, i'll use feather. Whats the best way to swap ETH<>XMR?

>> No.57409360

is it true that mental outlaw is one of the most powerful hackers in the world rn?

>> No.57409448

Do you own the wallet on that page? Its different from the wallet address you always use. Post your original wallet addr to confirm who you are.

>> No.57409458

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>> No.57409576

it depends where you live in, but I'd say the more undetectable way to buy monero is cash by mail. if you are a schizo, here are some must
>don't handwrite anything just print it and always use a different font
>don't touch anything that you are going to send with your bare fingers. use gloves. (fingerprints)
>make sure the bills you send are not directly related to a cashier withdraw you made
>wear face diaper, hoodie and glasses when delivering the mail to the mailbox
>make sure there are not cameras around

>> No.57409670

checkout trocador.app or orangefren.com

>> No.57409683

pedo coin

>> No.57409704

Does anyone know why the GUI wallet comes with an outdated P2Ppool version in it?