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This is how much my job is giving out as bonus this year. How should I allocate it in crypto? I was thinking:

BTC: €3000
ETH: €500
SOL: €500
ADA: €250
AVAX: €250
NEAR: €100
MATIC: €100
THETA: €100
INJ: €100
KAS: €100

My plan is to cash out the alts once/if they surpass their ATHs and exchange for BTC and ETH

>> No.57313753
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>>57313728
sounds like you have a long ways before retirement

https://birdeye.so/token/3qi7XMxKN2BqJDu7bAGV9gKjKi3wa95vMzQEr15uqYmh?chain=solana

>> No.57313788

>>57313728
Way overdiversified.
Trim it down to 5.
Keep 1-2 big caps and 3 small caps.

>> No.57313802

>>57313728
Forget btc, eth, ada. Try again

>> No.57313803

Isn't it taxed?

>> No.57313820

>>57313728
Your plan isn't bad but... €5k?
That's like a 1% bonus.

Anyway, I digress, your idea isn't bad but you're over-diversified. You should have around 5 and I would personally have a bit more in the high-risk moonshots.

Personally, I'd do something like:
BTC, ETH, AVAX, LINU, KAS

>> No.57313838

>>57313820
€5k more than €0.
Personally I think €5k is very little so I'd chuck it all at 1-2 small caps and get bigger cash for other coins.

>> No.57313869

>>57313728
Sol: 1500
Inj: 1500
Avax: 1000
Near: 500
Kas: 500

If you don’t do this youre ngmi

>> No.57313903

Put 1000 into Kns it’ll out perform all those

>> No.57313923

>>57313788
This.

>> No.57314121

>>57313820
I live in Yuropoor and it's my first bonus ever, that's like almost half of what I make per year lol

>>57313788
>>57313820
>>57313869
>>57313923
Ok so I see general rule is, don't spread too thin since it's a (relatively) small amount, go a bit heavier on the riskier bets.

BTC €2500
SOL €1000
AVAX €500
KAS €500
NEAR €500

>> No.57314132

50% BTC to 400k = 9x
50% DOGE to 2$ = 30x
ez95k. just keep stacking when everyone leaves. remember it’s all cycles. take 50% profits when we’re euphoric and renter deep in the bear when “it’s over”. the tech is good and it’s only going to get better like the internet. play your card right and you’ll be a millionaire after taxes by 2030

>> No.57314195

>>57314121
Which Europoor country?

>> No.57314200

>>57314121
>that's like almost half of what I make per year lol
lol how is the bonus so big?

>> No.57314235

>no ICP
Big mistake.

>> No.57314241

>>57314200
Sorry I'm actually retarded after a day of work. I meant a quarter, give or take. I make like 20 odd K, Spain

>> No.57314319

>>57314235
For reference to you how retarded people think you are, this is like for you reading something like
>No HBAR
>No NEO
>No ERGO

>> No.57314323

>>57313728
brother you are doing the smoothbrain approach of looking at top marketcaps and spreading thin, if you wanted to bet on the market as a whole just go all in on btc

>> No.57314330

>>57314319
Didn't ask. ICP has outperformed your bags.

Cope and seethe below the next line
__________________________________

>> No.57315156

bump

>> No.57315515

Uuuh. Do you really think crypto gonna grow this year?

>> No.57316404

>>57314330
ICP hasn't outperformed shit. It's up like 2-3x from its all time low.
ICP "investors" are legitimately some of the most retarded people in all of crypto. Hands down.

>> No.57316420

>>57313788
What would you pick?

>> No.57316511

>>57316404
>+350%
Concession accepted.

>> No.57316566

>>57316511
Those are some mediocre gains lmao most of my bags are doing way better than that

>> No.57316592

>>57316566
Post proof (You won't)
Preemptive concession accepted.

>> No.57316596

>>57316592
I bought and mined Kaspa in 2022-2023
I'm doing so much better than you it's not even funny

>> No.57316602

>>57316596
>Gets asked for proof
>Just writes text
BAGS STATUS : OUTPERFORMED

>> No.57316615

>>57316602
Even link baggies are outperforming ICPfags. ICP is legitimately, by the numbers, one of the worst-performing assets in all of crypto. If you bought ANYTHING in the top 50 in the past year, you're almost certainly doing better than an ICP holder
I'm not posting my address btw, glownigger

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>>57316615
HAAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
A LINK BAGGIE
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>Those are some mediocre gains
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.57316632

>>57316615
>I'm not posting my address btw
Of course you aren't, you have been #OUTPERFORMED

>> No.57316654

>>57314121
This, but don't go SOL, AVAX or ETH either.

BTC 2500
ADA 1500
KAS 500
NEAR 500

Or, if you can afford to lose it, put all 5k in a higher risk asset in an upcoming narrative and pray.

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57316688

>>57313728
pro tip:
if you're poor don't split your $20 among 40 different assets. go all in on your favorite. diversification is for people who cap their risk tolerance on their favorite and still have a shitload of money left over to set somewhere.

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57316697

>>57316626
>>57316632
I don't hold any LINK
My biggest bag is BTC, which has outperformed ICP over the last year, objectively
keep coping and seething, midwit

>> No.57316713

>>57316602
Let's see some proof about your average ICP buy-in price

>> No.57316716

>>57316697
>randomly mentions LINK
>totally doesn't have LINK
KEK THE BAGGIE
>My biggest bag is BTC, which has outperformed ICP
KEK ANd I was a good guy and went for the bottom rather than going for the actual last 365d

You can't even keep track of your profits and I'm supposed to believe you have any fucking idea of what you are doing AHAHAHAHA

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>>57316716
>>57316697
mb forgot the pic

>>57316713
>argument went from "ICP is doing bad" to "proof that you have the ticker that is outperforming everything I mention"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>> No.57316724

>>57316716
I have zero LINK, my biggest bag next to BTC is Kaspa
I mentioned LINK because it's an underperforming shitcoin that STILL manages to be even better than ICP, somehow
which is simply pathetic
ICP is literally worse than a garbage shitcoin like LINK in terms of price action

>> No.57316732

>>57316724
>STILL manages to be even better than ICP
Already debunked. Try again.

>> No.57316742

>>57316732
because you cherrypicked the starting point, now zoom out and compare bottom to bottom, even a garbage shitcoin LINK is outperforming ICP, let alone other coins in the top 50. it's not even close
>b-b-but if I start from the absolute most convenient starting point, I can make it look like I got the biggest gains
faggot everybody knows what you're doing is just a coping mechanism

>> No.57316752

>>57316742
I'm measure everything from bottom to top. Because I'm measure performance and that is how you measure the performance.
>you cherrypicked the starting point
You mean that YOU want to cherrypick to help your narrative.
Trying to move the goalposts now KEEEEEEEEEK

>> No.57316759

>>57316752
>>57316742
Actually, correction, I'm measure from bottom to current candle. If I actually did bottom to top it would be even better for ICP.

>> No.57316770

>>57316752
>I'm measure everything from bottom to top. Because I'm measure performance and that is how you measure the performance.
Yeah that's right, you don't measure from your average buy in price, instead you chrrrypick the numbers that are convenient to you.
>Trust me, guys. I totally timed the EXACT bottom of ICP and bought ALL of my coins during then
You're an obvious liar

>> No.57316785

>>57316770
>you don't measure from your average buy in price
Why would I? I'm measuring the performance of the ticker. Where did I buy is completely irrelevant KEK THE MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF COPIUM YOU ARE WHIFFING RIGHT NOW
>Trust me, guys. I totally timed the EXACT bottom of ICP and bought ALL of my coins during then
Says the guy pinky promising he bought the bottom of Kaspa while not proving it
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHA

>> No.57316800

>>57316785
>Why would I? I'm measuring the performance of the ticker.
If you measured the performance of the tickers, then ICP's performance is garbage. Many, many more coins are up more than 350% from the bottom.
Kaspa had no bottom. It was a fair launched coin unlike ICP where literally, over 90% of the supply was preallocated to insiders. That's why ICP's all-time chart looks like a popped balloon. That's what it looks like when insiders preallocate themselves everything and dump relentlessly on retail. Good thing they have you as exit liquidity

>> No.57316823

>>57316800
>Many, many more coins are up more than 350% from the bottom.
This is yet another cope.
Yeah, 100 shitcoins are created every day that do +10000000%. You have no point.
ICP is a largecap and so its performance gets compared to largecaps in its range.

The fact that you are arguing like this shows how dishonest your argument is or how little you actually know about what you are talking about.

>> No.57316830

>>57316800
>Kaspa had no bottom. It was a fair launched coin
Another non-argument. BTC had a bottom.

>> No.57316853

>>57316823
ICP hs had mediocre performance ESPCIALLY for a large cap. SOL and AVAX have done more than twice as well. Bitcoin outperformed ICP because it fidnt dump nearly as much before 3xing. it's hard to find anything that hasn't 3x'ed from its bottom in the last year. I'm sure you totally timed the EXACT bottom of ICP and your investment in it is doing as well as theroetically possible so congratulations to you, even then it's not that good for crypto

>> No.57316857

>>57316853
>more moving the goalposts
OUTPERFORMED

>> No.57316858

>>57316830
no it didn't lol BTC's bottom happened the moment of launch and it's price never went back down to its launch level. Kaspa was the same

>> No.57316862

>>57316858
>no it didn't
>BTC's bottom happened
?????????????????????

>> No.57316864

>>57316862
You're a retard lmao

>> No.57316868

>>57316864
You are the one arguing that it had no bottom and the literal next three words saying that it happened thoughbeit?

>> No.57316896

>>57316868
Stop comparing your shitcoin to coins that literally never go back down after their moment of launch. That means they never had a real bottom. Their bottom was their birth. Which is completely in contrast to your coin which went down over 90% at launch. ICP has LITERALLY one of the worst performance records in all of crypto

>> No.57316902

>>57316896
>they never had a real bottom
>Their bottom was their birth
????????????????????????

You are still moving the goalposts. Nothing you are writing has anything to do with anything.

>> No.57316910

>>57316902
you're coping hard
You know exactly what I mean, which is that your shitcoin dropped 90% after launch while the others NEVER went down to their price at launch

>> No.57316923
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57316923

the question is

>> No.57316932
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57316932

>>57316910
>you're coping hard
?????????????????
You are not even making any sense now lmao

>your shitcoin dropped 90%
Oh boy oh boy. This is Ethereum. You really REALLY have no experience in this space, do you?

>> No.57316934

>>57316902
>>57316868
>>57316862
>>57316857
Fucking ICP retards I swear 80% of you nigger bagholders bought it from moonman at $20-50

>> No.57316946

>>57316932
>Oh boy oh boy. This is Ethereum.
Now zoom out you fucking bagholding shill

>> No.57316952

>>57316946
>Now zoom out you fucking bagholding shill
Do you understand that this only reinforces my point, right?

>> No.57316956

>ICP can run the internet
Guess what also can run the internet faggot? The internet
ICP clowns kys

>> No.57316960

>>57316952
No it doesn't because >>57316934 is right and you're down WAY more from your top than any ethereum holder in existence

>> No.57316984

As an European, is there a way to buy BTC ETF? or should I buy MSTR?

>> No.57316987

>>57316960
>No it doesn't
But your argument is that because it dropped ̶-̶8̶6̶% 90% then "it's bad" but I just provided you proof that dropping ̶-̶8̶6̶% 90% is not an indication of anything as the zoomed out ETH chart shows.
I very much accept your concession, son. You have a long way to actually be able to keep up with the big boys.

>> No.57316995

>>57316923
I'm a retard who can't crop images

>> No.57317002

>>57316987
Keep holding those bags boy, you might even break even one day but desu I doubt you'll ever be in significant profit like the rest of us, ICP is straight fucking garbage and anyone who falls for that trash is not even a midwit, they're just a fucking retard. Yes you are pretty retarded for bagholding a coin that's down 90% and then gloating because you recovered 5% from that loss. Give me a fucking break please

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>>57317002
>moves the goalposts again

>> No.57317009
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>>57316987

>> No.57317019
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>>57317009
Conservatively ICP is only down 95% after about 3 years

In honesty it's 99%

Great buy

>> No.57317031

>>57317009
>>57317019
>still moving the goalposts
Don't mind me, just redirecting you again to the chart
>>57316932

>> No.57317043
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This is literally, unironically, the spitting image of what it looks like when retail bagholders get dumped on relentlessly by VC insiders. It's not surprising to see this kind of chart when you know that over 90% of ICP's supply was allocated to insiders before retail had a chance, but holy shit. Imagine actually defending this. You are beyond cucked lmfao

>> No.57317064

>>57317043
I'm sure the retail bagholders that suffered that with ETH feel real bad about it.

>> No.57317072
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57317072

>>57317031
Oh you mean this chart?

gotcha I see the similarity

>> No.57317080

>>57317064
ETH's ICO price was like $8, so yeah, they did profit, completely unlike people who bought ICP at launch
I've never been more convinced after this interaction that ICP holders are double digit IQ dimwits. My god.

>> No.57317081

I get that feel of all ICP posts being the same 2 o 3 bagholding circlejerks.

>> No.57317082

>>57317072
don't mind me, redirecting you again to this
>>57316932
to prove again that your point about dumping hard is completely moot

>> No.57317096
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>>57317080
>ETH's ICO price was like $8, so yeah, they did profit
oh boy oh boy, here we go again!
Nice initial profits. Dead chain that is going nowhere.

>> No.57317101
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57317101

>>57317082
If you bought ETH at the peak and waited 900 days you'd be up by 32000%

If you bought ICP and waited 900 days you'd be down more than 99.5% and today you're down 99.5%

>> No.57317107

>>57317101
>If you bought ETH at the peak
So much for the "serious investor" KEK

>> No.57317109

>>57317096
Meanwhile... your chart looks like what, again? Oh yeah. Your chart looks like this: >>57317043
Now shut the fuck up, bagholder

>> No.57317114

>>57317109
>Your chart looks like this
Looks similar because they dropped similarly. Do you understand numbers? lmao

>> No.57317119

guaranteed these ICP niggers are indians who get paid to post

>> No.57317133
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>5k
Just use rango to make sure whatever you buy doesn't rape you that bad with fees and shit. Optimize that 5k stack as much as you can. Also if I was you I'd buy 5k worth of ETH only.

>> No.57317137

>>57317107
Deflecting already? ok I accept your concession

>> No.57317141

>>57313753
This is almost 2x since he said this lmao

>> No.57317149

>>57317119
Nah they're just fucking idiot true believers who will baghold for all eternity. They're the same kind of cultists who held LINK through the peak of the last bull run, and are still holding RLC

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>>57317137
Deflecting what? You are the one coming up with scenarios about buying tops.
How is it my fault that your behavior defaults to buying tops?

>> No.57317175

>>57317149
True I can see the ICP crowd having the same mental illness as linkies. financial masochists who buy pipe dreams from orgs who overtly dump on them

>> No.57317187

>>57317149
>no argument
Concession accepted. Bags outperformed.

>> No.57317227

>>57317187
I just remembered that I have a bag of alephium that I bought at around 50 cents so that bag is doing better than ICP as well

>> No.57317240

>>57317227
Damn you got me.... Oh shit, I just remembered that I'm one of the ICP VCs.

>> No.57317254

>>57317240
ICP wouldn't allow a NEET like you to participate in their presale

>> No.57317260

>>57317254
>starts seething at the absolute performance mog of ICP
Hehehe, nothin' personnel, kiddo.

>> No.57317301

>>57317260
Yeah great job being down -99% since ICO instead of ETH which is up over 30000%. You're sure doing a great job of convincing us that you're not coping lmao

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>>57317301
kek you really are a retard that doesn't know numbers, aren't you?

I just remembered that I bought the top btw.
Looking forward to your seethe spillage.

>> No.57317341

ICP is one of the most garbage shitcoins to ever pretend to be a "cryptocurrency"
>completely centralized
>over 90% insider allocation
>proof of stake dogshit
>permissioned network
>token not needed
I legitimately feel pity for anybody who's dumb enough to convince themselves that ICP is a worthwhile investment

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>>57317320
>>57317301
sold*

>> No.57317348

>>57317341
>and still outperforms your bags
Crazy stuff! That explains your general upset behavior about it.

>> No.57317369

>>57317348
It does not outperform my bags
You are up, at maximum, like 3.5x over the last year, assuming you timed the bottom perfectly.
AVAX, SOL, KAS, INJ, TIA, QNT, etc. have all done better than that.
You won't ever realize that though because you're married to your one shitcoin bag, you're a cultist not an investor

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>>57317369
>350%
>x3.5
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA this is way too good

>AVAX
You had so much time to ACTUALLY check for tickers that did better but you still failed.

>> No.57317427

>>57317395
AVAX is up more than 4x from its bottom in September of last year. You are coping and seething hard right now
>>57316759
>Actually, correction, I'm measure from bottom to current candle.
Oh! Apparently not, lol. Fucking bagholder.

>> No.57317434

question. I see people saying to have around 5 coins of your only have 5k. what if you have 5k and your adding 1k a week? would you still say 5? if I had 20k would 7-8 coins be acceptable?

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>>57317427
>AVAX is up more than 4x from its bottom in September of last year.
I just provided hard proof in the form of a chart that this is not true.

>>57317427
>Actually, correction, I'm measure from bottom to current candle.
>Oh! Apparently not
??????????????????????

>> No.57317471

>>57317449
The bottom for AVAX in 2023 was under $9 according to CMC and Coingecko. Anyone who doubts this can go check for themselves right now.
What is 36 divided by 9?

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>>57317471
>LITERALLY, UNIRONICALLY, ACTUALLY ARGUING THAT THE CHART IS WRONG
holy shit I'm actually baffled right now I'm so glad I kept pressing you to post it was absolutely worth it

>> No.57317507

>>57317492
Are you okay?

>> No.57317516

>>57317471
(You) me if you don't realize why you look like a fucking retard right now and I will gladly explain it to you.

>> No.57317539
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57317539

>>57317492
Just stfu already

>> No.57317546
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57317546

>>57317539
All you need to do is ask.

>> No.57317569

>>57317546
yeah I know it's DRASTICALLY outperforming your coin lmao just zoom out

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57317578

>>57317569
>I know it's DRASTICALLY outperforming your coin
UH OH

Hint: +350% is not x3.5 and it's MORE than +316%

>> No.57317587

>>57317578
Yeah I know if you cherrypick the absolute bottom of ICP and pretend like your a erase buy in was at $2.9, it seems like a good investment. That's not what you bought it for though. Show proof of average buy if you're going to claim otherwise

>> No.57317590

>>57317587
>Yeah I know if you cherrypick the absolute bottom of ICP
UH OH
>>57317471
>The bottom for AVAX in 2023 was under $9

>> No.57317594

>>57317587
Average buy in*

>> No.57317601

>>57317590
Avax didn't drop -99% from its top like ICP did now show us your buying average

>> No.57317624

>>57317601
So? You still cherrypicked the bottom and I just compared to it because that's the only way it makes sense to compare performances.
How is it my fault that you are, in fact, cherrypicking but doing it terribly?
>show us your buying average
I'm still waiting for you to post your bags from like an hour ago.

The argument really is shifting from "ICP is bad" to "do you have proof that you have bags?" KEK

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I remember when ICP first came out, people on this board were talking about buying it for hundreds of dollars. I always wondered what became of those anons and why thry would be retarded enough to buy into something like that. I guess I know the answer now. They're here trying to pump their bags in this thread

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57317662

>>57317601
Oh, and just for the record.

>> No.57317673

>>57317662
>>57317601
The crop messed up, my bad

>> No.57317683

>>57313728

Honestly, that's a great spread.

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57317685

>>57317673
>>57317662
>>57317601
ah fuck, third is the charm

>> No.57317754

>>57317624
Because most people DCA and don't time the perfect bottom every time. If you really did buy all of your ICP below $3, then congrats to you
ICP hasn't outperformed the rest of the market when you zoom out and look at averages
>>57317662
Yeah I know, AVAX is a shitcoin and I don't hold any of it. I've already told you what I'm holding. Even AVAX isn't as bad as ICP. ICP bagholders went through 3 straight years of doing nothing but getting dumped on, they completely missed out on the entire 2021 bull run, they bought the moonman cope at $50, I'm just wondering what their average buy in is now since they're getting pretty cocky about a 4x from the all time low

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>>57317754
>Because most people DCA
And yet, """"""for some reason""""""" you always act like every single individual that has ICP bought the absolute top and/or didn't DCA. Interesting.
>when you zoom out
Cherrypick. 20 posts ago or something like that you were trying to argue that is on a person to person basis (technically, you just did in the post I'm quoting too).
And AGAIN, I proved this wrong too by showing the ETH chart plumetting 80something percent. You would have missed ETH for cents because "bor, zoom out".

>>57317754
>Yeah I know
>>57317601
>Avax didn't drop -99% from its top
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>> No.57317825

>>57317754
>Even AVAX isn't as bad as ICP
I literally posted a chart showing that AVAX did roughly as bad as ICP what the fuck are you smoking, kid?

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>>57313728
Too much spread. You only need 2 tokens

>> No.57317895

>>57317814
For a short time ETH did drop after launch. ICP has been out for like 4 years now, ETH didn't take that long to recover, and ICP's launch was even more retarded because of the absolutely ridiculous preallocation. It's your money and I'm happy to hear that ICP has been working out for you, but I will always hate ICP fundamentally, I think the way it launched was unethical and they dumped way too hard on bagholders for YEARS it was unreal. It completely goes against what bitcoin and cryptocurrency were originally intended to be as a decentralized, fair alternative to the fiat monetary system, what ICP did is they got retail to fund their project and pay back their VC investors... it's bullshit imo but I genuinely hope it works out for you because I don't think you deserve to lose money

>> No.57317904

>>57317895
>ICP has been out for like 4 years now
It released at the literal peak of the bullrun.
You keep babbling while blatantly not knowing what the fuck you are talking about. Just stop.

>> No.57317909

>>57317895
>I think the way it launched was unethical
Oh, I agree. The fact that a futures market was created before the project officially released is scummy as fuck.

>> No.57317915

>>57317904
Over 90% of the supply was preallocated lmao that's why the chart looks uniquely bad and it didn't follow the rest of the market and instead dumped straight down for years. Learn something about tokenomics please

>> No.57317919

>>57317915
>Over 90% of the supply was preallocated
Nice unproven claim.

>> No.57317926

>>57317915
>that's why the chart looks uniquely bad
The chart looks the way it looks because the futures market and arbitrage made it look that way. You unironically don't know how markets work and it shows.

>> No.57317930

>>57317919
It's on their website, only like 10% of supply was available to retail through ICO at launch. The rest went to VCs and insiders. That's why I hate ICP so much

>> No.57317934

>>57317930
>It's on their website
Show us.

>> No.57317950

>>57317934
https://internetcomputer.academy/tokenomics/
Scroll down to the "ICP Distribution at network launch" section.
The presale was less than 5%!! The rest went to insiders

>> No.57317958

>>57317950
>The presale was less than 5%!!
That means the presale was less than 5% of the total supply. You are fucking retarded.

>> No.57317968

>>57317958
It mean that you (retail) got access to 5% while they (insiders) got the other 95%...
ICP faggots should just stay out of crypto, you're too dumb for this

>> No.57317990

>>57317968
>It mean that you (retail) got access to 5%
Jesus, you truly are dumb
>The ICP tokens of seed donors (24.7% of the total supply) and early contributors (9.5%) were locked in neurons at Genesis, to enable immediate participation in the NNS.
That's like 35% of the token AT MOST not 95%. And they were LOCKED. It's written right there.
You truly are grasping at the weirdest straws. Hell, even ETH had a worse allocation (close to 70%, unlocked)

>> No.57318229

>>57317990
ICP had a preallocation where insiders got basically everything while you got crumbs, it even says it on their website, and to add insult to injury, they opened futures trading on icp before it was released because they knew it would dump at launch and they shorted all the way down lololol and you defend this outright market manipulation, what the fuck

>> No.57318244

>>57318229
>ICP had a preallocation where insiders got basically everything while you got crumbs
Already debunked using your own source.
>they opened futures trading
They had nothing to do with this. It was exchanges doing it.

Try again.

>> No.57318280

>>57318229
Oh wait lol I just noticed that you think they opened the futures market themelves (somehow, lol) because I posted this
>>57317909
the issue being that you didn't realized that it was meant to be a jab exchanges and them doing it is what I was agreeing with as being scummy not at Dfinity.
Kek you truly are completely lost in the conversation.

See you in 35 minutes when you are finished whatever weird cope research you are doing lmao

>> No.57318315

>>57317658
kekd

>> No.57318321

imagine still engaging with this icp troll

>> No.57318327

>>57318321
>not a single functional argument
Concession accepted.

>> No.57318340

>>57318244
>They had nothing to do with this.
Oh yeah I'm sure they didn't lol, absolutely none of the ICP VCs and insiders knew it was going to dump immediately after launch and shorting on the way down
ICP devs are still dumping to this day... it's incredible

>> No.57318351

>>57318340
>Oh yeah I'm sure they didn't
They are not in charge of the exchanges which are the one that create the Future's market so, correct, they didn't.
You literally can't even muster an argument at this point.

>> No.57318354

>>57318340
>ICP devs are still dumping to this day...
Factually wrong btw, you already provided the source that talks about how their stake is locked.

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>> No.57318387

>no argument
>again
:^)
doesn't get any easier than this

>> No.57318390

>>57318354
Most of their peallocation wasn't locked, the unlocked share of supply that was given to insiders absolutely dwarves what was available for retail, which is why they dumped on you for so long, and shorted all the way down... l m a o you have to admit ICP was a beautifully executed ponzi scheme

>> No.57318398

>>57318390
Already debunked using your own source.
Try again.

>> No.57318402

>>57313728
no ETC?

>> No.57318409

>>57318398
Nope, it proves me right, you got crumbs, they got the whole pie, and they locked one little slice of their pie away while taking the rest for themselves. They don't even try to sugarcoat it.
Who are you trying to fool, here? Us, or yourself?

>> No.57318417

>>57318409
>"it proves me right"
>it actually doesn't
lol
>Who are you trying to fool, here? Us, or yourself?
Ironic and definitely not a coincidence you would project like this.

Then again, I'm talking with the guy that tried to argue that +350% was equal to x3.5 so you may actually not understand the numbers you are dealing with when it comes to tokenomics.

>> No.57318443

>>57318417
>oh but they locked 30% of the 95% of the coins they gave themselves!! That makes it fair!
Great, that means they'll have more to dump on you in the coming years as the supply is unlocked, which gives them more incentive to keep dumping now. ICP is a shitcoin you will NEVER reach $50 let alone your ATH , the DFINITY foundation will dump on you long before then

>> No.57318453

>>57318443
>95%
Already debunked using your own source.

>> No.57318583

>>57318453
Someone proved that ICP insiders were dumping millions of tokens at launch while competing sellers had their tokens "locked" and couldn't sell, lmao. Just lmao. What a complete scam

https://www.arkhamintelligence.com/research/reports/icp-report

>Putting together the pieces of this analysis—large deposits to exchanges from the Treasury and suspected insiders, lack of transparency on token distribution, a byzantine process for outside supporters to claim tokens, and an ICP price collapse—an overall picture emerges. It appears that Dfinity insiders made billions of dollars dumping ICP on the market while making it difficult for their biggest potential rival sellers to dump theirs. It appears they tried to prevent outsiders from uncovering this activity through a lack of transparency about Dfinity’s token allocation and unlocking. And it appears that their activity drove a massive crash in the price of ICP.

Yeah... the chart certainly reflected this. It went on to dump way more after this article was writtten too. The more you look into ICP the worse it gets. Truly the shittest of coins

>> No.57318603

>>57318583
>arkhamintelligence
Opinion discarded.

>> No.57318699

>>57318583
>we suspect
>likely belonging
>Suspected insiders
>we believe
Anyways, it took me a bit to find it but here it is.

https://cryptoleaks.info/case-no-10

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>>57318583

You will never make an ICP holder realize the truth. They are married to their bags and will sink with the ship, you're wasting your breath, fren.

>> No.57319469

>>57313728
why buy old coins? (eth/btc not included)
try a new spec
>The naturalists build
33%btc 33%kas 33%eth
>The traditional build
80% btc 10%kas 10% eth

>the hastemage
99%kas 1%btc

any variant of those and call it a day

>> No.57319488

Shitcoins: €5000