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Mumus Won Edition

>Educational sites:

>Financial TV Streams:




>Pre-Market and Live data:


>Boomer Investing 101:


Previous: >>57245643

>> No.57248212


what gun stocks should we expect will explode if they are allowed to sell brand new full auto guns again?

>> No.57248224

This is a Bitcoin board

>> No.57248245

/smg/ runs /biz/

>> No.57248274
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>Absolutely BEGGING the SEC and fund managers for an ETF
>Getting liquidated by a troll post by some creepy Jew on Twitter
Only thing heavier than your bags right now are the Ls you fags are holding.

>> No.57248291

don't worry
stay calm
this will reverse in no time
selling doesn't happen any longer

>> No.57248325


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Stfu BTC cuck.

>> No.57248369

>Then git gud or quit yer bitchin. Gotta know when to hold em and when to fold em.
HOW do I git gud? That was my original fucking question anon

>> No.57248385
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I know I'd go from rags to riches
If you would only say you care
And though my pocket may be empty
I'd be a millionaire

My clothes may still be torn and tattered
But in my heart, I'd be a king
Your love is all that ever mattered
It's everything

So open your arms and you'll open the door
To every treasure, that I'm hoping for
Hold me and kiss me and tell me you're mine evermore

Must I forever be a beggar
Whose golden dreams will not come true
Or will I go from rags to riches
My fate is up to you

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>> No.57248442

I also want to know this.

>> No.57248455

fed williams came out to stop the bullrun by whining about the need for holding rates here longer.

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Gettin real tired of these Fed board members.

>> No.57248467

Wandering /k/ommando here: That would require repeal of the Hughes amendment, which is unfortunately not in the cards.

>> No.57248474

weirdest shit just happened. randomly logged into facebook after like a decade to creep on my ex, i've had all these messages from people i knew like 20 years ago.
one of a good friend who i've been trying to contact for over a decade on his mobile number which must have become inactive long ago. and the usual bunch of faggot relatives who i was cool having forgotten.

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thats crazy man

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Shill me a $6500 investment for my roth ira.
This is a buy and hold for 20 year play. I'm financially secure so am looking for more risky options...

Palantir? Costco?

>> No.57248507

So yearly options next week. And a giga pump before hand. We are headed down or crabby down

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>> No.57248529

pltr, sofi. gbtc. crwd or bigger tech ones like msft, googl, amzn will do well. can also do amd or nvidia.

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>> No.57248546

Could have just bought TLT puts, don't fight the fed, flow with the fed. #Higher4Longer #NoRateCuts #Bidenflation

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I hate you so fucking much with your Andy Kauffman tier performance persona.

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Rates to 8%, Liquidate fucking everything. Fuck your pensions fuck your stocks fuck your bonds fuck your calls, fuck it all.

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Reminder, nobody is going to buy the fresh 30 year bonds tomorrow, this will lead to a yield spike and more pain for equities and bond holders alike. #GetFucked #TLTPutsMoonMission #Hashtagging

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>ISRG up 10% near aths
Never even heard of some of these companies and they do really well.

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Andrew, is that you?

>> No.57248603


and I hate you for posting the same fucking 6 reaction images every fucking thread

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Well, post some more, then.

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here let me help

>> No.57248649

I'm ready for that CPI pump tommorow

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Fuck your real estate, fuck your bank, fuck your deposits, fuck your broker, fuck your job, fuck your education, fuck your bills, fuck your diet. LIQUIDATE EVERYTHING!

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>> No.57248668

now that people can hold BTC via an ETF is there any point in holding BTC related stocks like MARA and COIN?

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I still think it's hilarious the crypto crowd was fucking rabid for a derivative product that will undoubtedly fuck their market dynamics. Sad!

>> No.57248730

I dunno but I'm glad I got out of my MARA position while I was up about 19%.

>> No.57248733

Guys the Pelosi shit I have heard about, can you see what all these congressmen/women are buying in real time or is it filings months later?

>> No.57248738

bitcoin won

>> No.57248749

The latter

>> No.57248753
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You won't buy calls because you hate America.

>> No.57248761

When your liberal acquaintances talk about buying guys in because of trump. I’m feeling bullish this year for firearm sales.

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>mfw this post actually worked

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No, I'm just not approved for options. Stop bulling me, porn lady!

>> No.57248783

Just buy QQQ or MGK
it is literally that easy

>> No.57248794

And now crypto becomes stocks. Bitcoin will cement itself among the tech giants such as Apple and Microsoft.

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>this post actually worked
Show us your mom now that she's here.

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OK, here's my mom. My friends always ask if she's home.

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Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

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worst day ever

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I have slightly more money today than I did yesterday

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Your moms hot friend. How about I buys some pizza and come over? We'll eat and talk about stocks.

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+0.26% (unrealized)

>> No.57248906

I'm tired of holding seven stocks. Can we decide on a magnificent one? Nvda looking perfect for infinite valuation

>> No.57248916

>only 7

>> No.57248922

+.13% my SPY rebalance is going waaay too slow. I'm going to have to halve my time frame to get back to a reasonable amount of cash.

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up 2.63% but i have some gbtc so could change quite dramatically in either direction by tomorrow open. Glad markets kept pumping and rebounded after that Fed comment. I was sure it was gonna tank it down to red.

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>a magnificent one
Kek. That would be the biggest top signal in history.

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Hey guys

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be careful tomorrow goys... i think im sleeping in

>> No.57249014

>Betting against a clown market.
Might as well go to the casino.

>> No.57249015

breddy gub, i shitposted a lot today

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>> No.57249151

My TLT put options are up bigly. You all could have got big dick returns today too if you had just listened to me at the open.

>> No.57249167

if mara doesn't pump tomorrow god help us all

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So this is the place where the ETF is going to be bought and sold huh? Guess I'll make myself comfortable and YES I do belong here *farts*

>> No.57249190

Mara could dump another 20% tomorrow, and I'll still get big dick returns because of my superior positioning ahead of Granma Yellen's fund raiser.

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>> No.57249201
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Crypto is officially dead. It has been put on a leash. Just buy SPY or VOO.

>> No.57249243

Allocated 25% of my portfolio into chink stock today. USA is DEAD.

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Damn... QQQ pumping back up after hours and there ain't even shit reporting today

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“Tunnel’s Closed Mother Fu@#$£§!”
Down .28%
Oh well. What are the MO bros doing with their dividends tomorrow?

>> No.57249274

anon if the ATF goes down due to Supreme Court
its only a matter of time before the glowniggers push for full auto being made new for the public so we all kill each other in a race war instead of hunting officials in a civil war

>> No.57249292

So did the SEC say anythhing about cryptoshit

>> No.57249306

All I could find is this.


>> No.57249320

Also this

>> No.57249346

no way its dumping i bet my life on it

>> No.57249351

wow it's fucking nothing

>> No.57249357

and this https://www.sec.gov/page/black-women-and-investing

>> No.57249365

>calls mr snibs a bear
It's your ass gonna get pinched faggot.

Wow, Honey Badger North America is just a weasel? Oh, I think not Mr.

Anyone selling liability insurance, anyone selling shrinkage insurance. Unironically CA commercial real-estate with a look at a 6 year payoff. Short hospitals, long cadaver storage companies, really dead criminals don't get months of rehab, as well as anyone with Section 8 in you know ville. Cybertruck goes platinum print.

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We can stay over bought longer than you can stay solvent bobo.

>> No.57249398

learn to use comma, your sentence makes no sense

>> No.57249407


I checked with my SEC contact and he said: "Yeah once we told Fink about what our guys found in Tether's books (once they entered into a disclosure and monitoring agreement) he said we had to give him a spot vehicle so there was enough liquidity for blackrock to get out of the way before we rolled it up. Didn't seem ethical but the boss said we gotta do it."

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You both wrote comma splices.

>> No.57249428

>"Oops! Page Not Found."

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/cashgang/. My ta hasn't caught up to this move yet and has not given the go ahead for a buy. Possibly tomorrow. It is extremely cold here. When I drove in to work (i work for a university) I saw a guy wearing a fucking cloak. An hooded cape! With fur lined hood and some pattern stitched on. I started laughing a little and that turned in to a solid 5 minutes of chuckling. I couldn't stop. A fucking cloak.

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>> No.57249439

kek @ buttcoin baggies thinking the etf news isn't priced in

>> No.57249445

It's up for me, try a VPN or something

>> No.57249448

That cloak sounds pretty comfy tbhwu senpai

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watch your own fucking video faggot, you're literally just proving my point

>> No.57249465

>sell option at a loss
>Underlying stock starts pumping
Why the fuck does this happen so often?

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You are a few months late to figuring out the ta don’t match up. The stock market is falling upwards. Inverse some sections and invert the colors. It makes much more sense that way. Wonder if someone changed a 1 to -1 somewhere and here we are…

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Aragorn going to school on a chilly day. I can't handle it

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imagine being this dumb.

>> No.57249517

Sooooo, what would cause a reversal in TLT/TMF?

>> No.57249519

No my ta is fine. It is functioning properly even in this chop. The only scenario it works poorly is extended periods of flat like 2016 had.

>> No.57249524

SAVE really shit the bed today. They better announce their merger tomorrow or I'm gonna lose a lot of money.

>> No.57249536


>> No.57249546

Bro they can see the options chain.

>> No.57249547

>grammar on 4chan
go back to esl class faggot

>> No.57249549

nah just rate cuts. bonds will gain a ton of value.

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I need a dollar, dollar, a dollar is what I need
Hey, hey
Well, I need a dollar, dollar a dollar is what I need
Hey, hey

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>> No.57249570
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can someone tell the bitcoin chart it got approved

>> No.57249577

the government could stop spending so much fucking money, but that would probably result in a recession since Joe Biden's communist style of trickle down economics is to just have big government spend like a drunken sailor on shore leave and then let it work its way through until it ends up in one of the magnificent 7.

>> No.57249580

Yeah sure, the Federal Funds Rate (the overnight lending rate banks don’t even follow) controls the long end of the treasury bonds. Lmao, retard.

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15 bucks, little man, put that shit in my hand.
If that money doesn't show then you owe me owe me owe.

>> No.57249605

Oh, and because we finally found a weasel bigger than you, you're all huffy?
Everyone loves the honey badger. Honey badger does what honey badger wants.
But let it grow up in the northern hemisphere, and they're all like
>oppressor, colonizer, sister lover
I mean, it's not like I was even alive in the 1700's, why get all vocal about things I didn't have anything to do with?

Also, can we stop with 10 minute-to-close yanks?

All I want for Christmas is a fish sandwich.

>> No.57249629

>FXI closed green

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Just in between swing trades. Can no be in all the time. Except for boomer retirement account which is just dca forever.

>> No.57249641


Bond market finally realizing that recession means more printing/inflation means lower real yields means dump bonds buy commodities.

Same thing foreigners realized in 2020 when they caught wind of the CARES act. Lotta bond bulls are pretty slow but eventually most will understand what regime they're in. Eventually.

>> No.57249646

>mara dumping
what the fuck is going on?

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I need stocks to go up so I can afford to turn the heat on this winter...
Right now, I'm resorting to eating spicy ramen packets to stay warm

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don't worry, it's just after-market low volume, it'll correct even lower on market open

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Because it hit a line and opex is coming up. The long term is bullish I’d think tho

Also. Mara pumps on minor btc pump. Everything else pumps Mara dumps on minor btc dump. Everything else

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>> No.57249771

>Reminder, nobody is going to buy the fresh 30 year bonds tomorrow
Why not? The market is pricing in that FED is bluffing on higher for longer. If that's the case they should gobble it up.

>> No.57249772

the federal fund rates also sets what treasuries pay dude. so if they lower rates down to 0. any treasury bond paying more than 0 will gain a ton of face value. stop being stupid.
k thats fine then.

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Don’t worry. It’s sustainable

>> No.57249805

I'm just glad I'm not an IRBT bagholder right now.

>> No.57249807

Backtesting is so fun! Did you know that if you played the right options, you could have become a millionaire within a single day?

>> No.57249845

Right, so until then TLT should continue its upward trend?

>> No.57249847

Don’t fall for the heat meme. They just want you to sell off your assets so by summer your broke again. Candles are cheap at goodwill stores.

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Greener for longer

>> No.57249868

>The market is pricing in that FED is bluffing on higher for longer.
The market is a stupid fucking dog with a wagging tail, the F.E.D. are its master, Trying to call the boys over at F.E. and D's bluff is a good way to hand over all your chips. They don't bluff, and they don't give a fuck about anything besides maximum employment and 2% inflation.

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>> No.57249882

Yeah totally dude. That’s why 2 year money is paying more than 10 year money, but also somehow way below the FFR. They affect the short end not the long end.

>> No.57249945

What would a bitcoin ETF even be? There are like 5 major cryptocurrencies worth touching.

>> No.57249951

the 2 year pays less because everyone bought in on it at auction because they all expect within 2 years for the fund rates to be below it. this isnt hard concept dude. the market is figuring out the value of the bond over its lifetime and waht they expect the fed rate to be over that bonds lifetime.

>> No.57249952

i'm not going to fucking say this shit again. the only thing that sets the prices is supply and demand. not the f.e.d. not the jews. not joe biden.

>> No.57249969

just btc held by coinbase/galaxy and traded with IOUs on nyse.

>> No.57249974

Will you buy BTC etf now?

>> No.57249987


>> No.57249992


Upwards until word leaks out of congress that Dems are scheming some election year deficit spending and JPow is going to facilitate it. Then suddenly sharply downwards.

>> No.57249994

tomorrow the supply of 30 year notes will increase, if there are no changes to the demand for 30 year notes the prices will decrease for ALL of them.

>> No.57250061

there will be good demand. people are loading up on bonds with rates that might not be seen again for next 16 year bullrun.

>> No.57250072

nah i already cashed out, i see where that pump and dump ponzi scheme is going and it's not for me. The capitulation event when times get tough and people cash out and create a panic cascade of selling will be glorious, especially when it never recovers because it's backed by nothing, the technology has been deprecated/replaced, and it never actually represented value beyond the hype train it generated once in a bygone era. The tipping point for was when I realized how consolidated coins are into the top 96% of holders, the entire network now exists almost entirely for them to lure in speculators and fuck them over. It's pretty much been rendered useless except as a way to scam 90% of the people who are currently buying into it. The other 10% will get lucky and might profit but that's how casinos work.

Still prefer stocks because when they dump recovery is basically guaranteed if you buy an index, unless the world itself never recovers and we enter a dark age. Not going to care about money at that point anyway, I'll be foraging berries and making bullets.

>> No.57250080

I don't know what to think about etf approval. It's kinds over

>> No.57250085

i hate to agree with the kike, but i feel like he's right on bonds generally this time.
bianco is calling it right imo. secular bond bear market.

>> No.57250104

>top 96%
so a hyper majority? did you mean top 4%? not all that different from fiats right now.

>> No.57250117

>just btc held by coinbase/galaxy and traded with IOUs on nyse
Already a thing in Europe btw, nobody cares. It's called ETCs (exchange traded cryptocurrencies). It's basically like buying gold digitally, the seller makes a promise that he totes has the amount of crypto/gold in his bank account.

ETFs will just be the next step of that

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Based hamchad.

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At what point did you realize you're never beating the market and just became a Boglechad instead of a trader. It's slowly happening to me, I check my account less and less and my Roth is far better positioned than my personal account.

>> No.57250168

MSN News paywall avoiding news reader.

>> No.57250179

Right now I'm down 400 on my option trades. I'm coping right now by saying I'm just gonna try to make that back and stop but we all know how it's gonna end kek

>> No.57250191

yes my bad i meant 96% of the coins. Point is there is no flood of people eager to buy these bags, almost everyone who cared to be in is already in, people coming in now when everyone is talking about it all over normalfag sites like reddit and /biz/ basically is the most powerful top signal i've ever seen.

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>> No.57250235

Retard here, I started buying some ETFs to get my feet wet last year, and my return is like 20% as of today. How'd I do?

>> No.57250236

>Already a thing in Europe btw, nobody cares
yeah but nobody cares about europe and etfs are more legit than etcs.
>ecular bond bear market.
yeah but it will be over by the time fed lowers rates. although i think theyre only signalling lowering to 3% to keep there for undetermined future. that still keeps a lot of bonds in bear market losses now that i think about it.

>> No.57250239

Such bullshit

>> No.57250240
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It needs to touch that blue line

>> No.57250270

we'll see who's right come tomorrow. ~.^

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>> No.57250278

Good, now work on replicating that over 20 years.

>> No.57250291

yes sir. ill be here too browsing.

>> No.57250297

Boglecucking is for people who want to retire at 70

>> No.57250308
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uranium kings..............we couldn't be more back.

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Probably the worst time to become a long term (decade plus) Boglecuck, but still better than being "cashgang" or a bond baggot.

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i dont need to trade to beat vancuck funds. stock picking is the way to do it. hold a position for 6 months, even a year and milk it out. helps you avoid the losers lumped in with the total market funds.

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I'll let you know.

>> No.57250396

I would like to remind all anti NVDA retards that you do not know basic accounting, economics, or literally anything and should stop trading against GOD.

also check my dubs

>> No.57250398
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okay, so now we have gold and digital gold with miners and digital miners

will the boomers really be buying digital gold?

>> No.57250413
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The doomers have gotten to me so i'll never feel safe

>> No.57250418

look at the assets of the top gold etf's, it's a tiny fraction of the market cap of btc itself. And the btc etf will obviously be a tiny fraction of that. It's literally nothing. One of the many reasons to avoid bitcuck.

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Stop the corn posting.

>> No.57250426
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I have some schitzo lines that point to 580 next week. Screen cap me bro

>> No.57250432

I would never touch that shit

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>> No.57250440

There is literally never a bad time to become a Boglegod because the only other potential outcome is the slate being wiped totally clean which has only happened like once in the Bronze Age.

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>only happened like once in the Bronze Age
Return to tradition.

>> No.57250479
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reminder that if you think the economy is doing bad that you are a poor MAGAt chud
suck it bears

>> No.57250482
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>he doesn't just sell weapons to both sides and then buys back the weapons at a discount to resell them to the other side

>> No.57250485
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The doomers are trying to save your life. The next decade plus is a emerging markets commodity decade.
Your index is concentrated in 7 of the most overvalued stocks in the market. Commodities and emerging markets will outperform in the future once the FED re-starts QE and cuts rates until then enjoy your poompa.

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>The next decade plus is a emerging markets commodity decade.
I remember when my professors told me Brazil was going to be a superpower by 2020.

>> No.57250525

>The next decade plus is a emerging markets commodity decade.
David... you're drunk.

>> No.57250532

throwing money at non-whites is as good as burning it

>> No.57250537

nah that was argentina.

>> No.57250538

>The next decade plus is a emerging markets commodity decade.
Who? Those shitters who only gained any wealth because they were like the kids in Mexican resort towns selling chiclets?

>> No.57250548

You’re stuck on last year’s narrative, when the BTFP ends there will be a mad dash for pristine collateral there isn’t enough of it out there and the big banks know it, that’s why TLT is above its 200dma meme line and trending upwards, today was most likely the last pullback, you’re nuts if you aren’t atleast buying the dips.

>> No.57250550

incel NEET loser here, I'm looking to get into stocks. I see the lines are up at around ATHs, so I'm just waiting for a huge dip to enter. There WILL be a crash this year, right? I'm talking +10% and likely much more.
According to doomers the world economy is in the shit, so it's almost guaranteed, right?

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I buy VT. I literally don't care because I already have money in those fairy tale emerging markets.

Also it is market weighted if a company got that big it would reflect in the index.

>> No.57250567

Why don't you get into short selling. Buying puts. Selling call spreads.

>> No.57250588

>i don't care if i underperform
based if you have enough invested that you can live off of 6-7% interest i guess.

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no MAGAt chud

>> No.57250608

this doesn't work btw

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Well your professor is an idiot.
You're a sheep there's never been such a concentration in one market in recent history.
You don't have to throw it at non whites buy commodities producing companies ran by whites when FED cuts and does QE instead of buying shitty indexes that will die to inflation.
I have no idea what you're saying.
VT is probably a better buy than VOO.

>> No.57250620

I literally know nothing about any of that stuff. I don't know what a crypto coin is. Or what a blockchain does. I barely know what a stock is, but I know pooping money into some funds seems to historically have beeen a pretty good way to hedge against inflation

>> No.57250631

>trusting Doomers
They've been predicting a giga crash to nothing since forever.


>> No.57250644

You're not wrong at all. Just don't buy individual shitcos. You short those and buy calls at the bottom.

But yeah ignore me just poop and shart your money into Vanguard index funds like VTI / VTWAX or whatever the fuck

Don't buy the dogshit individual companies on /smg/ the growth names the meme names the short squoze names

>> No.57250662

>There WILL be a crash this year, right
the hard truth is: no one knows
you're welcome

>> No.57250688

How much to make 30k a year?

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That's the spirit!


>> No.57250693

You missed it my newfag bastard; 10% correction ended last October. It's a bit choppy to start the year but "waiting for the big one" is a losing strategy.

>> No.57250729

$461,538 @ 6.5% yearly gets you $30,000 passively (gross)

>> No.57250826

Just gotta turn my 20k into 450k then.
How do I do this bros? Surely a measly +2200% is nothing special?

>> No.57250894

If you had 9% average annual growth and only withdrew 6% that would be safe-ish against inflation, but you're still vulnerable to drawdown periods so I'd avoid withdrawing more than like 4% per year of any index fund.

>> No.57250906

aren't basically most people poor as fuck these days due to the rate hikes and housing being unaffordable and no one wanting to work? people still expect this shit not to crash and burn. sorry for being a retard btw

>> No.57250908

honestly it isn't weird to land a multibagger but it won't likely wind up being the entirety of your portfolio, and it may take years to happen
I have only pulled it off twice so far.

>> No.57250916

>How do I do this bros?
Pray for a bear market basically.

>> No.57250928

Bogle-sama forgive me... I clicked the sell button today...

>> No.57250944

what poor people (well, most of people) want or do is wholly irrelevant to le markets

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>aren't basically most people poor as fuck these days
The standard of living is declining around the world some worse than others, because of expanding the money supply, higher taxes etc...

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it do be like that

>> No.57250983

Well, you see, it's kind of like a forest fire where the fire burns all the old dead wood and undergrowth. After that, the soil is rich and generally rebounds really well.

>> No.57250985

>Pray for a bear market basically.
And then?

>> No.57251002

Quality of life is not an economic indicator. The people in charge are very detached from the problems of most people and they will make their economic policy to align with what they know.

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>> No.57251012

doesn't seem to me like we've hit scorched earth levels yet, though.

>> No.57251025

When there is a bear market and the FED cuts rate and restarts QE or does YCC, you'll probably get the highest leverage on OIL & GAS juniors, and mining stock juniors in US and CAD. If you haven't the slightest idea about the sector stick to the majors or if you want to take the risk buy the mid-caps in the sector.

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>> No.57251059

>If you haven't the slightest idea about the sector stick to the majors or if you want to take the risk buy the mid-caps in the sector
I don't, sorry. The only sector I'm good in is tech because I'm a CSTard. And what's the point of leverage anyway if we're in a bear market? That doesn't make sense

>> No.57251062

up 0.14%

>> No.57251098

When the FED cuts rates and restarts QE that will prolly end the bear market and these shits can go x20-x30 that's what kind of leverage we're talking about here. Of course you need to time it right. You were asking for a x22, this is pretty much it.

>> No.57251125

Also I don't mean leverage as in to borrow money to buy these shits, they have the highest alpha would be the more appropriate term.

>> No.57251152

>+2200% is nothing special?
nvidia did 1306% in 5 years. Just got to find 2 of them.

>> No.57251163

QE ain't coming back. The Bankers and FED admitted it was a failed experiment that they ran dry in 2020. Rates are also never going down to those retard lows either because they finally fixed the interest rates after the retards in charge broke them in 2001.

>> No.57251168

that you ackman?

>> No.57251171

Ok so let me get this straight, the field is basically 500 mining companies and one of them is gonna moon 30x because they literally and figuratively struck gold? And the other 499 go to zero?
How is this different from just playing the lottery, there's zero fundamentals or sentiment analysis behind it, just pure luck

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>QE ain't coming back.
Keking my ass off. The system is a Ponzi it requires higher and higher injections of liquidity to prevent it from collapsing. The FED will without a doubt do QE or we get a 1929 crash. Those are the two choices.

>> No.57251215

>nvidia did 1306% in 5 years. Just got to find 2 of them
That seems much more realistic to me, thanks anon.
The question is
What company is
>undervalued but prominent now (everybody knew who Nvidia was 5 years ago)
>Is expected to have a gigantic boom in 5 years due to a new field emerging (AI was also ramping up 5 years ago and this wasn't a secret either)
Adding these two facts together was a gamble, sure, but not something that required 500iq. So anons, any ideas?

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>> No.57251220

Selling a FUCKTON of bitfarms tomorrow and buying SOXL. Or do I buy SSO?

>> No.57251222

A rising tide lifts all boats.

>> No.57251258
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And the rate hikes were supposed to cause a death spiral. Believe what you want I am telling you what the bankers said.

>> No.57251261

not u boats

>> No.57251264

>QE ain't coming back.

Western governments are running higher and higher deficits. They fund these buy selling bonds which no-one wants to buy. The central banks buy them using printed money (QE).

>> No.57251273
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This fuckin guy.

>> No.57251315

Define standard of living.
The thing that is reducing is individual access to organic foods and green space. The thing that is increasing is the number of family members everyone has and the advance metallic electrical tech items they possess.
That is correct if there is no other source of wealth.
>ETFs approved today.

>> No.57251316

Yeah but we can't sell lol

>> No.57251324

What about hive digital you fucking nigger faggots

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>So anons, any ideas?
not seeing anything myself right now but i did see some of the ai stuff. hoped in msft, crwd, meta, and googl. up 51% already on crwd and up 10-30% on the other three.

i still think Ai has a 3-5 year cycle play from here. every company will add it in and develop it out themselves. tons of hiring and growing as they expand in house AI stuff and start boosting revenue by selling services. Salesforce will probably do well along with other service sellers like msft and security like crwd.

>> No.57251355

>google it
>their website has a yellow exclamation mark next to it showing it isn't a trusted website
lol this place is hilarious

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>> No.57251369

>security like crwd
Don't forget S

>> No.57251381

>>undervalued but prominent now (everybody knew who Nvidia was 5 years ago)
>>Is expected to have a gigantic boom in 5 years due to a new field emerging (AI was also ramping up 5 years ago and this wasn't a secret either)
if this was something people knew it would already be priced in.
The market is basically just gambling.
OR you have insider info.
Nothing else.
So I hold VOO.

>> No.57251382

>And the rate hikes were supposed to cause a death spiral.
They will eventually. Banks collapsed and the FDIC bailed out depositors, the FED injected liquidity again to extend the illusion that everything is just fine.
>Define standard of living.
What's the average salary, and how much can you buy with it. The trend has been that wages aren't keeping up with price increases and that trend has accelerated since 2020.
>That is correct if there is no other source of wealth.
What is this majestic source of wealth?

>> No.57251383

Market cap 500 million. Pumping after hours. Undervalued compared to maras btc holdings and their market cap. It’s ripping now and you are a buy signal. This was bait

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mmmm yes shill those Canadian shitcos brother

>> No.57251428

>What's the average salary, and how much can you buy with it.
10 toasters for a 10 hour shift, that's a savings of like 1month labor from the cost of the first electric toaster. And then there's processing power, and access to data, access to calories, access to transit, access to medicine...
I can buy a bunch more for an hour than I could 50 years ago. As noted, only organics, and this time I'll use both chemical free and carbon based plant or animal, are getting more difficult to find.

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And just like that my portfolio is now at an ALL TIME HIGH
And you will be poor forever

>> No.57251449

I’m bearish atm and I like hive digital. You don’t like it and you’re bullish stocks. I’m liking this

>> No.57251514

>if this was something people knew it would already be priced in
Le "everything is priced in" thing is meme bullshit by pseuds pretending to be 500iq. If everything was priced in, you wouldn't see markets move up after good news and down after bad news with 90% of certainty. Think about this for a second

>> No.57251541

>I can buy a bunch more for an hour than I could 50 years ago.
I mean we you can cherry pick toasters or computers, and I can cherry pick a stock index or gold. Fact of the matter is: housing food utilities everyday things are more expensive than they were relative to the average salary.

>> No.57251611

I buy a new truck regularly. This was first time really where I paid more and got less truck. It’s been on going. But we may have peaked bros

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>10 toasters for a 10 hour shift
...fucking what?

>> No.57251634

>But we may have peaked bros
An intermediate peak. Until liquidity is reinjected and it must. The government parasites will sacrifice their national currencies.

>> No.57251664

Does that chick ever get any work done? What's her role at that firm? First year analyst? How's her Excel skillz?

>> No.57251674

We’ll see that’s the thing. The carts getting ahead of the horse. For the most part cars increase in price and value. But this time around price increased but i got a cheaper package on it. Like the screen isn’t great and it shifts into 4wheel with a stick instead of the electric button. Little things. It’s still a truck but peak value was pre 2020

>> No.57251716

Sold my MSFT calls at a 50% loss, initially bought on Dec 20 with strike price 492 by end of next week.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how dumb am I? Should I buy the option again? I kinda saw it dropping towards the end of the day so I sold thinking recovering from 90% loss to 50% loss is good enough. Or am I a brainlet?

>> No.57251727

Maybe stop gambling on options.

>> No.57251748

I'll stop gambling when I'm at net zero for options trading, i promise
400 bucks to go

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Course she does

>> No.57251764

All I ever see her doing is being SHOCKED and not doing any work

>> No.57251782
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>I'll stop gambling when I'm at net zero for options trading, i promise 400 bucks to go
It's over for you...

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>Le "everything is priced in"
I didn't say that. I said if it was expected to. If anyone here could say for sure that something would boom, it would already be priced in. Markets move because nobody knows everything so everything can't be priced in.

You may as well be asking for winning lotto numbers with questions like his.

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>> No.57251861

is there any point in buying this shit if i dont have enough capital to buy a lot of shares?

>> No.57251888

>Betting on Nvidia booming due to ml getting more and more popular in 2017 was as impossible as winning lottery numbers, nobody expected that
Notice how retarded this sounds? ML already entered the mainstream back then

>> No.57251908

relentlessly and mindlessly DCA'ing is pretty much the only thing left for poor to non-rich people.
the little you can invest per month/year won't buy you anything meaningful in the present anyhow, might as well write it off to DCA'ing and maybe getting something in return in a few decades.
i am not facetious. i truly believe this is the stage we're at in this whateverthefuck.

>> No.57251912
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Depends what your alternatives are
It's been beating QQQ for the past 5 years

>> No.57251915

heil hitler trips checked but yeah some people obviously expected it enough to gamble on it, everything's a sure thing in hindsight so it's not really an argument. I've still yet to see anything actually useful come out of AI and the pricing is set on expectations that in my view will fail spectacularly.

>> No.57251945

my crypto miners finna bouta moon tomorrow

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At least your option had a bid. I got 100 calls and no bid because they've crabbed to death. I'm about to lose the year's gambling money in the first month- just like last year...

>> No.57251966

>I've still yet to see anything actually useful come out of AI
Where the fuck have you been living for the past 2 years

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>the most incredibly magnitudinous double top ever in the history of history

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Ok... time to go make my HELFY dinner
We'll see how this one turns out
HELFY could be an investing opportunity
FUCK I don't have a potato masher anymore

>> No.57252056

I lost mine on BABA 80c's but I will start working my way back with SOXL calls before CPI, then I'll trade bank earnings, and wait a bit before doing anything else after that.

>> No.57252068

>enough capital to buy a lot of shares?
Its % gain not number of shares.

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>HELFY could be an investing opportunity
Wait... I thought you were bearish?

>> No.57252137
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Hello my fellow investors how is your day today? is anyone making any changes to their stocks after today?

>> No.57252168

I'm up a whopping 7$.

>> No.57252256

Does she ever get lay’d? Honestly, I got bored watch the series and quit. I mean really, how can she not get sexed?

>> No.57252257
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pfizer dividend yield at 5.58%

Worth buying here?

>> No.57252281

They have a shit pipeline and are killing off their primary customers (vaxxies on booster #8). What do you think they'll do to that dividend?

>> No.57252304

>rentoids pay $1k/mo in rent
>it's gone forever
>hoomers pay $1k/mo in mortgage
>a portion of it goes into the home that they own
rentcucks literally can't refute this
the only advantage of renting is that you don't have a commitment to one area

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holding pfizer is like holding a ticking bomb. When they run out of cover stories for giving millions of people failure-prone hearts, then spent years covering it up, it's gong to crater like nothing before seen.

>> No.57252331

Dumb chick I know (single white mother w/ 2 kids, different fathers) thinks she’s a girl boss now because she finally got her credit score up high enough to where her dad doesn’t have to co-sign the car loan. She proceeds to trade her old car in for a new one to celebrate. Now cars are very easily repossessed so her score must have been nigger tier to start with. I’m also assuming she got raped on the interest rate. Short women, long financing companies.

>> No.57252337

full auto is less effective in anything but warzones for suppressive fire, I made $SWBI play earlier and $POWW but theyve gone nowhere

maybe election year will make people buy guns again

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Waiting for the market reaction to CPI tomorrow morning and then we'll see if I should do another quick scalp in the crypto miner casino or dump my left overs from last quarter and last week's lows.

it's just a wrapper for US boomers to allocate their 401Ks and Pensions to. This is like a hyper-onramp for dollars into the system.

>> No.57252362

Typical interest payment is more than rent, and it doesn't make sense to buy until you can ensure those numbers are comparable.

>> No.57252373

that argument is still refuted by the idea that the interest is still going into your asset which also appreciates, rent disappears. I agree that it's best to buy up front though. No doubt.

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ah so this is how CVNA keeps going up. Thanks for the insider info.

>> No.57252386

>a portion of it goes into the home that they own
I guess that’s one way to look at it. Except it’s the bank that owns the home and check out the amortization schedule to see how much goes towards principal and how much goes to interest. The best part is you’re forced to pay insurance on the house that the bank owns and allows you to live in. In 30 years it will be yours so there is that.

>> No.57252399
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That's statement is so ignorant, I'm not even going to try to refute it.

>> No.57252416

>rentcucks literally can't refute this
you’re ignoring the down payment, which if put into the sp500 for 30 years could end up surpassing the value of the home you would own had you bought.

>> No.57252424

what does 30 yrs of rent DCA into s&p yield

>> No.57252435

Did you seriously buy a house without ever comprehending an amortization table? LMAO

>> No.57252440

Like a 4x. Kill me now

>> No.57252442

>Did you seriously buy a house without ever comprehending an amortization table?
No one does that, almost if housing is in a bubble...

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Real estate baking...

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>> No.57252466

I hate cslk and wulf.

>> No.57252489
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Take that 4x and put leverage into the mix

>> No.57252508

I like tecl and tqqq but xxxx is enticing

>> No.57252519

MARA is still a good idea, as long as you think bitcoin will go up. They have 15k BTC, their mining is efficient, and their mining capacity should continue to go up(to double what it is now in the next 18 to 24 months). The halving makes it more complicated, but they should survive over other miners and get a larger share of mining when others capitulate. If you would make money with BTC, you should make more with MARA.

>> No.57252535

They're subscription/ordering backend software systems are fucking awful, and it seems like they're specifically designed to rip off customers who then have to call customer support and complain
It's taking me a lot of work to make sure my gift cards get used without me getting charged
So... I think they're good at luring people in with discounts and then scamming them
So they seem to make money...

>> No.57252706

I can't wait until they sell options on this

>> No.57252983

>The ETNs are not "buy and hold" investments
the fuck i cant nigga