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>IT WONT STAY DOWN!!! Edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Stock market words:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Financials podcasts/channels
https://www.youtube.com/c/CameronStewartCFA - Fundamendals analysis
https://www.youtube.com/@TheDavidLinReport - Stocks, PMs, Crypto
https://www.youtube.com/user/BenzingaTV - Various themed livestreams
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews - Stocks, PMs, Crypto

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://wallmine.com/
https://tikr.com/

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>> No.57234816

>>57234812
This is a crypto board

>> No.57234824

>>57234812
I'd like to go on record and state that I am in fact bearish

>> No.57234829

>>57234816
And this is the only good general on it.

>> No.57234830

>>57234816
fpbp

>> No.57234831

XOMsisters, is if over?

>> No.57234836

>>57234829
Wrong, /dig/ is fantastic
>>57234040
>>57234040

>> No.57234840

>>57234831
Yes.
I can't I let myself get talked into buying that garbage.

>> No.57234849
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57234849

Why yes I like to have my shares diluted in lieu of receiving a portion of the profits for myself, how could you tell?

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>>57234836
>23 posts
>thread up for hour and a half already
>dividend investing
ISHYGDDT

>> No.57234860

>>57234849
The picture that broke /smg/

>> No.57234864

>>57234849
high iq meme

>> No.57234873
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57234873

>got pissed off and fomoed 160k into soxl at 4am
This will all work out just fine.

>> No.57234880
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>>57234831
XOM will be higher in the next 5 years, but since the Pioneer acquisition is an all equity one and oil prices are declining It's bearish in the short term. Same for CVX.

>> No.57234889
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57234889

ITT LAUGH AT LLAP BAGGOTS LOOK AT THIS FUCKING BAGGOT I FOUND IN THE ARCHIVES AHAHHAHAA

>> No.57234899

>>57234889
Damn. Poor guy.

>> No.57234905

>>57234889
he got heemed didnt he?

>> No.57234907
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>>57234889
LMAO GET YOU LLAP SHORTS IN FAGGOTS

>> No.57234916

Ehm..
EXIT ALL MARKETS

>> No.57234919

>>57234905
>>57234899
>>57234907
HERES AN UP CLOSE LOOK AT THE BAGGOTS PERFORMANCE

>> No.57234939 [DELETED] 
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Holy hell, bobos got brutally destroyed last year and it seems they are on course to getting p3gged this year as well. It's actually ridiculous how much everything is moving. Moves like +5% used to be pretty rare but it seems tech is moving like that every other day. Or maybe I'm just getting old.
Anyway, XOM behaving rather strangely. Oil is making up for that big dip yesterday but come on... why is it so red? At least have the decency to fall to 80 so I can slurp

>> No.57234947

I think the market has hit it's all time high and will never get back to these levels. If you're looking to get out, now is a good time.

>> No.57234955
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57234955

BOIL chads...

I kneel.

>> No.57234958

>>57234947
the market is certainly behaving as if trillions of additional dollars had already been printed.

>> No.57234960

Did they re-amputate my nose?

>> No.57234961
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>>57234947
>exiting before cpi

>> No.57234975

>>57234939
This nigga coping.

>> No.57234986

Stock buybacks are supposed to be the perfect form of returning money to shareholders. After all, they increase the price of the stock without any taxation event! Buybacks appear to be the magic pill that forever puts dividends in the shade. Why would you waste money on giving a dividend, when you could purchase back your own stock? Well, here’s why buybacks are a terrible alternative to dividends.


I will show, how buybacks encourage short-term thinking by company executives whose compensation depends on the stock price and stock-related metrics like EPS. Buybacks encapsulate the fundamental difference between investing and speculation. Speculation concerns itself with price movements, while investing concerns itself with cashflows.


Buybacks Reward Sellers and Often Penalize Existing Shareholders

I find it a cruel irony that by purchasing its own stock, a company is rewarding those who sell their shares and are no longer investors, while existing investors are left with paper gains that can evaporate in the wind. Particularly when the impact of the buybacks is mitigated by stock dilution in the form of stock-based executive compensation. The only ones who win in that scenario are those who sold out of the company, and the executives.

Apparently, I’m not the only one who thinks this. I have my problems with Buffet’s policy on Berkshire dividends, but in this matter, his views are my own. In Buffet’s 1999 letter to shareholders, he had this to say:
>Now, repurchases are all the rage, but are all too often made for an unstated and, in our view, ignoble reason: to pump or support the stock price. The shareholder who chooses to sell today, of course, is benefited by any buyer, whatever his origin or motives. But the continuing shareholder is penalized by repurchases above intrinsic value. Buying dollar bills for $1.10 is not good business for those who stick around.

Letter to the shareholders of Berkshire Hathaway, Inc – 1999

>> No.57234994

>>57234961
Will we have an explosion because people are expecting printing?
Will it crash because they realize what it means?
Will everyone inverse themselves and sell the news?
Who knows. Tune in to /smg/ at 9:30 Thursday to find out!

>> No.57234997

Dividends, on the other hand, are a direct reward to long-term shareholders who are incentivized to keep holding the stock to reap its benefits. If they sell, they stop receiving those benefits. Why should a company provide liquidity to those who want to sell their shares?

Buybacks Benefit Company Executives More than Shareholders

Further down, I discuss the Modigliani-Miller theorem, and explain why it fails due to the “agency problem”. Namely that we can’t assume that what’s good for the shareholders will also be good for company management. Stock buybacks are so popular because they benefit executives in the company whose compensation is based on stock options and hitting EPS targets.

In a study for the Harvard Business Review titled “Profits Without Prosperity: How Stock Buybacks Manipulate the Market, and Leave Most Americans Worse Off“, William Lazonick makes the following point:
>In 2012 the 500 highest paid executives named on proxy statements averaged remuneration of $24.4 million, with 52% coming from stock options and another 26% from stock awards. With ample stock‐based pay, top corporate executives can gain from boosts in stock prices

Lazonick, W. (2014). Profits Without Prosperity: How Stock Buybacks Manipulate the Market, and Leave Most Americans Worse Off. Paper prepared for the Annual Conference of the Institute for New Economic Thinking, Toronto, April 10-12, 2014 (p. 2).

>> No.57235000

>>57234955
digits checked and BOILpilled

>> No.57235010

Rate chart, post yours

>> No.57235013

Bottom line: There is ample evidence that stock repurchases are overly utilized to meet EPS targets to confirm with analyst expectations, to pump stock prices for enhancing executive pay and stock-based compensation.

But in theory, it should still be fine, right? Dividends or stock repurchases are all the same thing! Nope.

Stock Buybacks are Most Often Inefficient

Basic common sense will tell you that stock repurchases only make sense when the share is trading at below its intrinsic value. The same principles of investing apply when purchasing your own shares, as when you buy those of another company. Ideally, a company is in a better position to know the intrinsic value of its shares, so wouldn’t companies buy back their shares at attractive prices? But this doesn’t happen.

If the thesis is true, then share buybacks should increase during recessions and lowered prices, and decrease during bull-runs, right? After all, if share prices are depressed beyond reason, then it’s the perfect time to pick up your own shares on the cheap. The truth is that the reverse happens.

executives often claim that buybacks are financial investments in undervalued shares that signal confidence in the company’s future as measured by its stock-‐price performance. But as we have seen, over the past two decades major US companies have tended to do buybacks in bull markets and cut back on them, often sharply, in bear markets

Lazonick, W. (2014). Profits Without Prosperity: How Stock Buybacks Manipulate the Market, and Leave Most Americans Worse Off. Paper prepared for the Annual Conference of the Institute for New Economic Thinking, Toronto, April 10-12, 2014 (p. 11).

>> No.57235016

>>57234873
well, it is looking good so far

>> No.57235018
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Fugg forgot to take chart out of the bag

>> No.57235025

>>57234986
stock buybacks are now taxed at 1% thanks to Joe Biden's inflation reduction act, retard

>> No.57235030

>>57235018
How did you cope afterwards when you realized you didn't cash in the 50k? Lmfao

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57235041

bobos on suicide watch lmao

>> No.57235042

>>57234986
Alright you finally got me and I'm going to respond.

With buybacks you have the *choice* of taking profits and being taxed or letting it go back into your investment tax-free. With dividends you do not get the choice, you are forced to pay taxes no matter if that works for you or not.
As to "paper gains that may evaporate in the wind" that's the way your principle works in the stock market no matter what but dividends erode the book value of the company and create drag on the otherwise upward drift of the stock price (assuming it's a decent profitable company.)

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>ORLEN
>2006 12M Revenues PLN 52B EPS 4.82 PLN
>2006 per share stock price 63 PLN
>2023 9M Revenues PLN 260B EPS 14.66 PLN
>2023 per share stock price 63 PLN
So yeah who can explain this to me?

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>>57235030
Funny thing is I actually did. Fidelity and most related brokers are just retarded about visualizing/separating losses on shit trades lowering account value vs just moving the money into your bank.

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>>57234812
This is my favorite airline and the P/E ratio is -9.50. Fucking NEGATIVE 9.50. Is JetBlue a strong buy? I know the CEO is stepping down but there seems to be a lot of potential upside here.

>> No.57235056

I've got $3k sitting in my Vanguard account not doing anything. What should I buy?

>> No.57235057
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57235057

just threw in 10k and i still dont know what im doing. i hope this shit is as easy as vidyas

>> No.57235059

>>57235042
>you are forced to pay taxes no matter if that works for you or not.
Come again? My dividend portfolio is in my Roth IRA. Also qualified dividends have a lower tax burden than short term capital gains. If you want to make money expect to be taxxed

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>>57235057
Don't ever let anyone tell you it isn't

>> No.57235074

>>57235056
Since I’m in /smg/ I recommend something speculative like AMLX and pretend you don’t have the $3k.

>> No.57235075
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57235075

Can anyone explain the tunnel jew videos to me? Those videos are really creepy. It seems financially related. Why are jews allowed to attack police and build secret tunnels in New York?

>> No.57235086

>>57235055
nice, just bought 100k

>> No.57235095

>>57235055
Your data is outdated, it's below negative 10 based on their last earnings report.

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57235097

>sold to close my puts for 4.78% profit at the high price of the day for that strike 2 minutes after opening bell
feelz breddy gub

>> No.57235098

>>57235057
Buy $200 AMD calls for 6/21/24.

Don’t get spooked, go all in. Trust me.

>> No.57235114

>>57235055
>>57235086
wait do you guys think negative P/E is better than small positive P/E?

>> No.57235115

>>57235055
Airlines are not profitable
I will never own airline stock again

>> No.57235125

I love NVidya so fucking much wagmi semiconductorbros…

>> No.57235127
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>ITB

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>book flight 2 months out
>call hotline to change departure date to next week for a small fee
tunnel jews have nothing on me

>> No.57235134

>>57235055
honestly want to drop 5k into it. shill me on it.

>> No.57235138

>>57235114
It depends on the current ratio and whether it looks like there will be a change.

>> No.57235140

PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
>PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
>PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
>PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal
>PepsiCo to buy Coca Cola in $275B all cash deal

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57235143

Feel like I should probably sell CRWD here. This shit is insane.

>> No.57235151

im watching the tastyjews live jewtube for first time long time... its just the goyim lackeys jerking off about option spreads. spreads are so gay

>> No.57235159

>>57235151
spreads make lots of commission money, which is the only thing that awful channel tries to get you to do while trading on their platform

>> No.57235167

>>57235140
BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY BUY

>> No.57235176

>>57235098
1k in amd should be enough to pay me rent later. this shit has mad potential like nvidia

>> No.57235177

>>57235075
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12942605/Inside-secret-tunnel-built-extremist-Jewish-students-linking-historic-cleansing-bath-Brooklyn-synagogue-discovered-homeowner-heard-suspicious-noises-night.html

>> No.57235180

>>57235095
can you explain 2 things for me like im stupid, anon?

1. why is negative P/E bad? poor cashflow?

2. is the ratio exponential? eg, is -20 much worse than -10

thanks, just trying to learn. this thread has been very informative.

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>>57235140
Sauce?
>Sauce?
I would almost believe you if you told me one of them was buying out Monster.

>> No.57235192

>>57235180
p/e is price over earnings anon. If it's negative the company is losing money. It's not exponential, it's just a simple ratio. But let the other anon reply too.

>> No.57235193

>>57235050
They're just a refiner, yeah? Price action should roughly track CRAK (or crack spreads, if you want to look those up).

And because refining's cyclical, any given 9 month period or how "good" a P/E ratio is sort of irrelevant.

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>>57235143
Yeah I can’t do it. Nothing to buy even if I did and fuck paying taxes to this administration.

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>>57235177
reading that shit pisses me off so much

>The NYPD is yet to confirm exactly where the tunnel leads, what is being used for or what the young men have been charged with.

move along no questions allowed for goyim

>> No.57235201

Wonder who was selling SAVE today. This stock makes for some of the best swing trading.

>> No.57235202

>>57235055
Look up the new CEO's gender.

>> No.57235206

>>57235180
>1. why is negative P/E bad? poor cashflow?
Yes. It means you're losing money even if the current price doesn't necessarily reflect that right now.
>2. is the ratio exponential? eg, is -20 much worse than -10
I'd assume it's linear, I haven't thought much about it and don't really know what I'm doing.

>> No.57235212

>>57235194
I owe $50k in backpay taxes going back to 2019, I just give them like $200/mo and they can't sue me or send me to collections kek, 6% interest penalty on non-payment that's basically the prime mortgage rate these days

>> No.57235213

>>57235140
PEP does look like a buy here, doesn't it?

>>57235143
Agreed, Mr. Undertaker, sir.

>> No.57235215

>>57235199
Its fascinating. Heres another article with normie & shill comments below.
Short america

https://nypost.com/2024/01/09/news/riot-breaks-out-after-secret-tunnel-is-found-under-brooklyn-chabad/

>> No.57235229
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57235229

>Chink stocks

>> No.57235230

>>57235114
Small positive P/E would be ideal but >>57235138 is what I’m thinking

>>57235134
Honestly haven’t looked that deep into the company but they’ve got the most legroom in coach which is great for tall poorfags like me, plus as many free snackies as you want. Definitely a risky play, but with the spirit acquisition and CEO stepping down, there could be a huge upside if the new CEO pulls it off

>> No.57235237

>>57235159
>spreads make lots of commission money
those are exactly my thoughts. If you are bullish just long the call, or buy the stock. If bearish long the put or short the stock. They like to sell the idea of spreads as "defined risk" but so is being long an option, you can lose 100% of what you put up, same with any debit spread

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57235244

>BABA
>2014 12M Revenues $8.46B EPS $1.61
>2014 Stock price $103
>2023 9M Revenues $91.41B EPS EPS $5.31
>2023 Stock price $72

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>>57235215
>rabbi whats up with that bloody mattress in your synagogue?

>> No.57235263

>>57235229
CCP is unironically based now compared to those shitholes Taiwan and Hong Kong

>> No.57235265

>>57235016
...fuck is it going to 30?

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>>57235230
Airlines. Don’t. Make. Money.
You will just slowly lose value

>> No.57235269

>>57235265
David Soxl has done it again

>> No.57235270

>>57235215
>wtf it's actually real
>they were tunneling into a jewish women's bath house
Lol

>> No.57235277

>>57235267
how is it possible that most airlines run at a deficit? what's the catch? are they just bamboozling investors out of their money?
t. financial semi-retard

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>>57235237
There are situations where I trade the spreads but it's rare, should only be done in specific situations when a greek is under or overvalued, most people are just throwing their money away to bid/ask + commissions + fees

>> No.57235282
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57235282

>VNM
>Backtest of support during uptrend
Am I crazy for buying this on a return to 14.50?

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>>57235193
>They're just a refiner, yeah?
No, they also produce oil & gas, they have pipelines for gas distribution, they own petrol stations, electricity production, plastics fertilizers etc... Yes it's cyclical but even if you compare top of cycle in 2005/2006 and 2022/2023 the numbers are x3 what they were at the top of last cycle yet the share price is the same.

>> No.57235289

>>57235267
Yeah. This is why I never bothered with the AA dead cat bounce the other year.
It's a highly competitive market that barely worked in older times when people cooperated better.

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>>57234873
SOXL is going to 60 this year so I believe you made the right choice. Should have bought it at 10 bucks back in 2022 though. US tech is unbeatable.
Asian tech like Samsung and LG are warning of lower demand and much lower revenue... while US tech just keeps edging margins higher and higher. Unbeatable and infallible. NASDAQ is poised to do another +50% this year

>> No.57235295

>>57235277
They're like Bitcoin miners: roughly fixed total revenue that everyone's in a race-to-the-bottom for because there are no moats.

>> No.57235298

>>57235230
As a richchad JetBlue mosaic member who flies at least 2x a month on that airline, it’s gone to shit. More delays, planes looking worn, staff is really bad and badly trained etc. used to be a “budget” airline with low fares but good service now it’s just basically another Spirit or Frontier. They cared too much about expanding and getting new routes they didn’t realize that the reason they were popular was because they had a better product than the competitors but instead of concentrating on dominating the market in certain regions with a superior product they diluted the product across more routes and now they’re just another budget airline where everyone will just pick the lowest fare instead of from brand loyalty.

>> No.57235302
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57235302

Median income for a married family with kids is $120k. The US is so much richer than the rest of the world it is mind boggling.

>> No.57235315

>>57235302
>Can't into sampling bias

>> No.57235318

>>57235270
there is a video of them throwing benchs at the cops and the cops just stand around like cucks because they know the entire legal system is run by kikes

>> No.57235324

should i invest in the boring company what with this nyc tunnel thing?

>> No.57235337

>>57235284
Sounds like they need to do what Marathon (or Kaiser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVvwCkB-JLE)) did and split the fuck up.

If I'm looking to throw money at fertilizer plays, I don't want to also buy a utility or gas stations so I'd steer clear of Orlen. Ditto for if I wanted to buy any of the other components on their own.

Run the numbers like Lynch did and figure out what each part of the business should be worth. Then hop on their next earnings call and yell at management.

>> No.57235339

>>57235277
the airline industry is a triple cyclical, seasonality, economy, and energy, on top of that a bad weather system or aircraft defect could wipe out an entire year of earnings
energy is probably the biggest factor though, they only really make money when fuel is cheap, right now these types of industries are fighting for survival hoping prices go down

>> No.57235340

>>57235267
>Airlines. Don’t. Make. Money.
While this is true, I'm making plenty of money off SAVE.

>> No.57235350

>>57235339
>hoping prices go down
Maybe I missed something, have prices been high lately?

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>>57235292
I had like 10 or 15k shares at a cost of like 8 or something last year but I sold them cause i'm a retard....just before the ai pump too.

>> No.57235360

>>57235302
It gets even crazier if you filter down to just European or Asian Americans.

>> No.57235364

>>57235277
Airlines have been bailed out by the government twice throughout their existence(2001,2020) due to the perceived value airlines provide to the country. They're like railroads but worse.

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>>57235337
>Then hop on their next earnings call and yell at management.
I don't own 10% on the company unfortunately so it doesn't matter what I say. Even if you throw the utility & gas station business out the window It's still undervalued.

>> No.57235374

>>57235277
They have positive quarters and are heavily levered to continue regular operations
I think airlines will have to be at least partially government owned in the future

>> No.57235387

>>57235374
The government already runs ATC (into the ground, almost literally.)

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>>57235369
>it doesn't matter what I say
You'd be surprised. Sometimes just a couple analysts even call in to those things and, if nothing else, you'll get an answer from management as to why they're not splitting up. Best case you plant the seed in their minds and spend half an hour to get double digit returns.

>> No.57235408

If you actually want to make money in aviation, buy manufacturers. With this Boeing shitshow, maybe they lose contracts with the airlines and Airbus takes them over, buy Airbus for when they take on more market share. Or buy military defense contractors, active wars in Middle East and Ukraine means western countries need to buy more helicopters to replace the ones they gave to Ukraine/Israel. I like TXT they are a manufacturer of Bell helicopters given authorization by the pentagon to sell their domestic helos to foreign governments. You can make money in planes, just not on the airlines

>> No.57235409

>>57235315
Married family with kids, adults aged 30-50 or so, is essentially the bulk of the American "middle class" and represent the power of the American consumer, and thus economy. I would've guessed this number was like $80k, not $120k.

>> No.57235411

>>57235369
say youre with /smg/, works every time.

>> No.57235415
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57235415

which stocks to daytrade in 2024?

>> No.57235419

>>57235278
>when a greek is under or overvalued
how would a goy like me even recognize those situations?

>> No.57235428

>>57235409
60K isnt anything so wow 2x60K = we can have a kid that we never see because we are both at work all the time.

>> No.57235430

>>57235364
maybe they should like charge the passengers according to body weight. like if your 300 lbs, it should cost you twice as much to fly compared to some one who is 150 lbs.

>> No.57235431

>>57235215
Sounds a bit like Hamas.

>> No.57235436
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>JD
>2014 12M Revenues $18.53B EPS -$0.86
>2014 stock price $25
>2024 9m Revenues $106.71B EPS $1.71
>2024 stock price $25

>> No.57235437

>>57235419
Options as a Strategic Investment by Lawrence G. McMillan
just like any kind of trading you have to wait for opportunities rather than thinking you can make a good trade every day

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>>57235409
Isn't that kind of low then? Apparently even cleaners make 80k nowadays in the US. Adults aged 30-50 should already be well established in their careers so at least a few promotions. 120k seems kinda low. And I say that as a EUpoor who makes 60k/year (though 50% of that goes to taxes so yeah...)

>> No.57235453

>>57235206
>>57235192
thanks anons

>> No.57235457

>>57235430
actually it should cost you more than twice as much to fly in that scenario because you have to account for the added weight of the extra fuel.

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>>57235430
i saw a story years ago about how russia was paying airline stewardesses based on their weight and justified it on their fuel cost and even in russia some fat bitch took them to court for muh discrimination.

basically only asia is allowed to have skinny sexy stewardesses now and white people have to clap for obese whales. you kikes are the ones pushing this shit so the blood is on your hands baggot.

>> No.57235473

airlines fell for the jumbo jet meme and now they're holding boeing's bags
they did just fine when they didn't cater to poor people that want to pay $90 for a flight to vegas

>> No.57235492

>>57235452
Janitors don't make $80k/year you bozo. Where do you get this shit? Do you listen to Californians or something?

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>>57235437
>Options as a Strategic Investment by Lawrence G. McMillan
i have that book along with picrel and I used to watch Larry's weekly market update videos on his youtube channel. He seems to have developed his own indicators based on VIX and has some unique market breadth indicators that he uses. Think he sells his analysis as a weekly newsletter or something.

>> No.57235496

>>57235244
>>57235436
Have the number of shares in circulation changed much in the last 10 years for these companies?
Also I know for a fact a 2014 dollar is worth a lot more than a 2024 dollar.

>>57235430
I assume that's how small jets operate, but the government probably prevents that kind of 'discrimination' with the big airlines.

>> No.57235499

>>57235364
so the US is a communist country after all....

>> No.57235502

>>57235452
Stop falling for demoralization posts. The average HOUSEHOLD income is $75k

>> No.57235508

>>57235409
Statlets should be liquidated.

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>> No.57235523

You fix airlines profits by charging for carry on bags and making checked bags free or much cheaper. The way it is now, it incentivizes everyone to lug huge carryons onto the plane to avoid fees. If you charged carryons you’d make money off people who want the convenience of a carry on, like they want the extra comfort of the larger seat, it’s a premium product. Everyone else will take the cheap way and check bags for free. As it is now nobody wants to check bags cause it’s more expensive AND more inconvenient as you have to wait at baggage claim. If you make the convenient option the premium option and the inconvenience free, people will pay a premium for the convenience.

>> No.57235536

>>57235496
Take not it's a 12M performance in comparison to a 9M performance. And I used EPS to account for dilution. Also the balance sheets are much larger at this point JD has a net cash position equal to $20 per share and BABA has $60B cash and buying back stock right now. JD needs to buy back stock or announce a special 10-15$ dividend they have way too much cash.

>> No.57235537
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WTFWT

>> No.57235541

>>57235523
We don’t need airlines to come up with more ways to make flying shittier

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>>57235537
WE ARE SO FUCKING BACK BOBOBROS

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>>57235492
Just /biz/ things. Apparently everyone in the US is either rich as hell or living on peanuts, there is nothing in between. Heh, of course I was being kind of sarcastic... but the salaries are sometimes a bit crazy. Like welders making 50+ bucks per hour and /biz/ electricians charging 80 bucks per hour. Real or fake?

>> No.57235556

>>57234836
fuck off, normies don't need to know about dividend investing and anyone who has questions can already ask them here

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>>57235523
>make it more inconvenient for everyone

nah fuck you. i shouldnt have to pay jack shit for a small suitcase or backpack that i do all the manual labor of unloading and loading. if you faggots wanna pack 800 bags and get the "help" to deal with them for you then you niggers are the ones that should be paying.

get fucked. absolutely fucking retarded opinion. you should kill yourself.

>> No.57235560

>>57235499
You have to think of the military and broader economic interest of having air travel, air ports, and an industry that can create planes. Certain amount of government intervention in markets is justified by the state without hesitation due to national security. 'Free market' is a silly idea for a world without states and a world without warfare.

>> No.57235571

>>57235556
>normies don't need to know about dividend investing
go to any local bar at happy hour and listen to boomers talk about divy investing.

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>>57235554
most of the people i know welding make like $25-30/hr but they can work a ton of overtime and hypothetically make good money.

>> No.57235581

NOOO STOP IT. I'M LOSING ACTUAL (unrealized) CASH. WHERE IS PPT?

>> No.57235588

>>57235496
Look if fat people don't want to get on my planes, good.

>> No.57235589

>>57235523
Yes, and it slows the boarding process when you have mutts trying to shove and squeeze their overpacked carry-on into the overhead bin. It also adds stress to passengers, because if you are in a later boarding group you never know if you will have overhead bin space near your seat or not.

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>all the gains from GME's earnings are already gone

>> No.57235602

>>57235557
The problem is everyone just has a “small suitcase” carryon and they don’t all fit and we all spend 20 minutes off a 1 hour flight time trying to fit everything in. You don’t need all that shit in the cabin. If you want it, pay the fee. Otherwise it should fit in your personal item that fits under the seat. You never saw in the golden age of flying people lugging all their shit on the plane, they just checked the bags cause it was included. The current system incentivizes chaos in the cabin and creates delays.

>> No.57235604

>>57235541
This is why Southwest (ticker:LUV) is the best airline. They are the only airline that doesn't fuck you around with fees bullshit fees and restrictions. Also, them not having first class means I don't feel like a poor while flying. SWA is the closest one will ever coming to living in a classless society.

>> No.57235607

>>57235589
Overhead space is reserved for carry in bags that are already up charged. The only free bag you can carry is called a personal item and it has to fit in between your legs on the floor. At least that’s how spirit does it

>> No.57235609

>>57235589
>>57235523
I would pay a premium for an airline that banned luggage (or anything that you can't just put in the seat in front of you) and boarded back to front and disembarked front to back.
We could be on and off the plane in less than 90 seconds.

Yes I am "that guy" who stands up as soon as the plane lands and glares at the retards fumbling their luggage out of the overhead bins.

>> No.57235611

>>57235277
I don't know if "most" run at a deficit, but it is definitable an unprofitable cutthroat market

>>57235302
> husband full-time 9-5 makes $63,000
> wife full-time 9-5 makes $57,000
that's not as impressive as it looks

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>>57235589
anyone that is "stressed" by putting a bag in a box over their head should be sent to an island where they aren't allowed to come back from for various types of undesirables. like a new age austrailia for all the spergs, pedos and limp wristed faggots that talk about their "anxiety" in doing mundane tasks.

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>>57235430
So men should pay more than roasties to fly, Baggot?
I always knew you were a simp deep down

>> No.57235628

>>57235604
Yeah I only fly southwest and use their credit card
Flying with them tonight actually
Still wouldn’t own their stock

>> No.57235634

>>57235607
Lol Spirit is a nigger airline. The Big 3 (AA, UA, DA), Southwest, and JetBlue do not charge for carry-on bags.

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57235636

>wake up
>Check biz and zerohedge
>No Boeing planes imploding and kids thrown out airplane openings
>Stonks go down a bit

Another boring day. Might buy some more divvy stocks meh.

>> No.57235641

>>57235473
The problem is that airlines are just a shitty business model. High capex, low moat, somewhat discretionary spend. Typically highly leveraged in an attempt to produce decent ROI for shareholders, but in reality that just leads to these massive boom/bust cycles.
Airports are a much better business. You get a captive audience that's been brainwashed to show up 2 hours early, can sell them all overpriced snacks and you get to charge the airlines an arrival/departure fee as well to cover the basic costs.

Right now they're in a more awkward spot because this unbundling. The whole ULCC trend has been a massive discretionary pricing trend in favor of consumers. If you don't check bags, you're now getting the same trips that you used to purchase, for cheaper. Streaming content providers have similar unbundling problems right now.
Also all the pilots and flight attendants and even maintenance workers tend to be unionized. For pilots in particular, the qualifications to become a new pilot are so high that there's limited competition. They get massive bargaining power to hold airlines hostage and set their own wages, despite the fact that airplanes at this point could probably be run entirely with AI, and safer. As it is, most of the journey is already on autopilot.

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>>57235578
why do pajeets always walk too close to the train?

>> No.57235648

>>57235619
They're appropriately feeling the guilt of holding everyone else up. It's the correct response.

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>>57235578
Oh yeah I forgot about overtime paying ridiculously well. I am firmly against overtime paying more since I worked in forestry where you get paid based on work performed, regardless if you work 12h, 24h, or just 4h.
Makes me sick of these nurses "working" 12h to get so much money and they sit around twiddling their thumbs (as someone who knows a lot of nurses I can confidently say this)

>> No.57235658

>>57235571
my point is, the more normies buy dividend stocks the lower the yields will become.
Anyone who rightfully figures out this free money should come to it of his own free volition, in a somewhat secret and esoteric fashion.

Example: you know there are jeets on /biz/? /dig/ is widely advertising on the front page to jeets the means to own production, it's just a travesty

>> No.57235661

where’s the airline that has entire first class planes? just charge double and have half as many seats on the plane, and save money on fuel, flight attendants, and baggage handlers.

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>>57235655
>I worked in forestry
based lumberjack

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>>57235648
>board really fast
>no one has luggage
>still sit there for 20 minutes waiting for the plane to be cleared to taxi

anon...

>>57235647
there are many things they do that are hard to understand

>> No.57235672

>>57235665
I'm already reading and don't care at that point.

>> No.57235676

>>57235664
I wasn’t a lumberjack but I had to make a few custom burp videos for onlyfans in a national park.

>> No.57235680

>>57235560
I know I'm just memeing. It's clear that the US is heavily dependent on airlines even without considering warfare. The same applies to public transport, but you muricans look badly upon that for some reason.

>> No.57235685

>>57235556
"Paying dividends" is literally a colloquialism.

>> No.57235686

>>57235664
>Husqvarna
Heh, me and "my" team only ever used Stihl. Just like with anything, normies love taking a side and shitting on the other. They are both so similar and each has its set of advantages. Still, Stihl does have an array of patents that makes things very convenient

>> No.57235694

>>57235655
>Makes me sick of these nurses "working" 12h to get so much money and they sit around twiddling their thumbs (as someone who knows a lot of nurses I can confidently say this)
You should quit forestry and become an MBA, sounds like you have a bright future ahead of you of smashing Chesterton’s fences down all around

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>>57235324
nonsense. no tunnels to see here

>> No.57235701

>>57235680
>but you muricans look badly upon that for some reason.
Because about 15% (and rapidly growing since we don't have borders) of the population are worthless utility monsters that make anything public extremely shitty.

>> No.57235703

>>57235680
That’s because public transportation is terrible. I have yet to find a train or bus that goes to the store and then to my kids soccer practice. It’s much better with a car because you can drive anywhere at anytime. The lack of driveable cities and suburbs in Europe is concerning

>> No.57235705

>>57235685
maybe 1-2% of North Americans actively and individually hold any serious dividend stocks in enough capacity to have even a statistically significant income.
hint: your BlackCock or NiggerGuard funds are not dividend stocks. you will never be a real dividend investor.

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>>57235694
I have a master's and now work as a laboratory engineer, doing things like SEM/EDX, SAXS, Raman, FTIR, and so on, and some research. I like it a lot and the pay is alright. Too bad it's just gen X working here though. As a zoomie, I do kind of stand out.
Also
>XOM
What is it doing? Still making up for that massive dip in oil yesterday?

>> No.57235720

>>57235686
>Stihl
im a Stihl chad myself. I own a KM111R kombi motor with the string trimmer attachment and also a reciprocator attachment. then I have a BG56CE blower

>> No.57235725

>>57235701
>of the population are worthless utility monsters that make anything public extremely shitty.
really doubt this. Public transport is shit where I live (I'm on a greencard, fuck you) but it's mostly due to junkies and your own nogs.

>>57235703
>The lack of driveable cities and suburbs in Europe is concerning
lmao
>That’s because public transportation is terrible. I have yet to find a train or bus that goes to the store and then to my kids soccer practice
well yeah that's my point, you could make it better

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>>57235551
ITS OVER

>> No.57235745

>>57235705
Are they are good, actively managed mutual funds or ETFs that buy quality dividend stocks that are not dividend traps?

>> No.57235749

Bond bros we're not looking too good

>> No.57235762

>>57235745
No.

>> No.57235765

I thought yesterdays action was due to DXY dying, but its back now and yields are up again and market is flat. what do?

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Feels good to be oil baron
Post your oil longs anons

>> No.57235788

>>57235765
DXY was flat yesterday. The whole pump was crypto/tech hype. While markets look flat, Russell is down 1% today.
FAGMAN infinity.

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>>57235765
They have to put out the flames so short term longs is what I have been doing. Raking everything I can in to support my long term shorts.

>> No.57235802

>>57235788
>DXY was flat yesterday
um no it wasnt?

>> No.57235808

>>57235725
>your own nogs.
Yes that's 15% of the population.
Welcome to the US, enjoy getting shot.

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Can I short Harvard?

>> No.57235843

>>57235825
this is bait to get me banned for /pol/speak

>> No.57235845

>>57235825
>I am the professor now

>> No.57235858

>>57235825
better she share her talents through the gift of classroom education

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YOU CANT KEEP ME DOWN BOBO
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.57235873

If you want a picture of the future, imagine a green dildo shredding Bobo's asshole - for ever.

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>>57235845
>Well, that's asinine. What kind of job can you get with a degree in pop culture?
>You can be a professor of pop culture. Wow. Bobby the Professor."

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>>57235825
>openly antisemitic in front of congress no less
>still earn 900k salary
My whole understanding of the world is being destroyed...

>> No.57235884

>>57235825
this is fine as long as every harvard student ever expelled for plagiarism is invited back to finish their degree(for free) or if they were really close they get the degree retroactively awarded to them. or they come out and say plagiarism is ok from now on and you can't get in trouble for it. either way works for me

>> No.57235886

>>57235802
Perhaps I should be more specific. DXY opened at approximately102 and closed at 102 flat between 9:30 am and 4:00 EST.
In that same timeframe, SPX ramped from 4715 to 4760.

Yesterday was not a DXY/yields correlation move. If it had been, DXY would've been down close to 0.8% if not more. Instead, it opened at a small 0.2% decline and held flat.
Yesterday was about slurping the fuck out of FAGMAN after some early January profit taking. Hype is back.

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>>57235883
>checks skin color

>> No.57235894

>>57234812
>it won't stay down
The 6 AM selloffs combined with the rumors that CPI will be up and Fed will hike again seems to correlate with large players getting out of the market to buy lower. This is particularly notable since volume has not gone up significantly after the end of the low volume season, indicating small money is propping up memestocks like NVID.

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>>57235843
Bait is every where.

>> No.57235905

>>57235886
fair enough but why limit your scope of DXY to market hours? Look at from midnight to midnight

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Good day for PIXY baggies

>> No.57235921

Bought 330 shares of NVDA just earlier. I'm riding this bitch to a 2x+ gain. See you guys at 3 trillion market cap.

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>>57235893
>>57235883

>jews empower blacks to undermine whites
>blacks use their newfound voice to talk shit about kikes

I fully support it. White men are so fucking castrated they feel like they aren't allowed to talk about anything. Sad that WW3 is going to be because black kangs have jew fatigue too.

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57235936

>gold miners shidding and farting again
It must be painful to be a gold bull

>> No.57235939

The forest is silent.

Usually it's teeming with life.

You hear the birds normally.

But sitting in your tent tonight.

It's pindrop silent.

Then you hear the loudest sharting sound you've ever heard in your life.

VVIX.

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>>57235731
HOPE YOU DIDNT CLOSE

>> No.57235951

>Cashed out of NVDA months ago after it spiked and made like 15% per share
>It just kept going up

I'm peeved

>> No.57235957

>>57235893
you saying they put some sheboon named gay above their own? That makes no sense

>> No.57235962
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>>57235921
>330 shares of NVDA
my portfolio when

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>>57235731
market always takes a dip around lunch break
you know this

>> No.57235997
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57235997

/smg/ is a catholic thread now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQwoCFLBiG8

Adeste Fideles laeti triumphantes,
Veníte, veníte in Bethlehem.
Natum vidéte, Regem Angelorum:

Veníte adoremus,
Veníte adoremus
Veníte adoremus Dóminum

>> No.57235998

>>57235948
does a bear fuck in the suburbs?

>> No.57236004

>>57235905
Just my way to separate signal from noise.
Market hours is when markets pumped this time. Sometimes it's also useful to see what asia and Europe are thinking of course, but right now it seems like the DXY/yields collapse is over and the rate hike expectations have been digested.
Bigger news is NVDA breaking out and holding above $500 on hype over new graphics cards or w/e. And bitcoin ETFs.

>> No.57236018

>>57235997
blessed and based
https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1704828096403988.webm

>> No.57236044

>>57236018
saved

>> No.57236045

>>57235939
Ur a fugget

>> No.57236057
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>>57235180
>is the ratio exponential?
I don't know what to call it, but there's something funky going on.

>Price/earnings
>200/1 = 200
>200/2 = 100
Earnings went from $1 to $2, 100 pt PE drop.

>14/1 = 14
>14/2 = 7
Earnings went from $1 to $2, only 7 pt PE drop.

>> No.57236073

>>57236004
People actually thought USD would pump? Kek. It's an infinite supply shitcoin about to set werimar records. Your highest bull targets are not high enough. And bears will be fucking massacred.

>> No.57236074

im going to short mortgage companies like rkt and uwmc

>> No.57236079
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57236083

Can someone define what is a "bobo" ?
the internet appears to explain it's a nouveau-riche (new money), or that it's someone who is rich but pretends he is not ...
clearly in /smg/ it has a meaning of its own

>> No.57236100

>>57236083
there is:
mumu the bull
bobo the bear
Snibs the crab
and nigger the black swan.

>truth: I don't know the swans name

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>>57236083
Can you have sex in this position and what is it called?

>> No.57236113

>>57235883
We're witnessing the full blown final rift between "DEI" woke Jews and antiwoke Ziojews

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>>57236083
>clearly in /smg/ it has a meaning of its own
...wtf? no are you new or something? bobo is a bear. He wants the line to go down.

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>>57236100
Checked and that's Mr. Snibs to you

>> No.57236126

>>57236100
black swan is "dodo" iirc

>> No.57236139

>>57236057
>/smg/ discovers division

>> No.57236152

Is this beginner's luck?
>decide to invest a little because i already make more money than the average student
>Invest 5000$ in random stocks
>everything is green and i made 10% profit
this is the easiest shit in the world, i just sit back and the money comes rolling in

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>>57236121
Yes sir

>>57236126
Thank you.

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>>57236152
>this is the easiest shit in the world, i just sit back and the money comes rolling in
That's a top signal if I've ever seen one.

>> No.57236174

>>57236152
Yup this is called a bull market.

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>>57236126
I want to call him honkers

>> No.57236179

>>57236152
Yes first ones free

>> No.57236184

>>57236152
if you're trading main indices, i like to use uvxy & iwm as leading indicators. Just watch them as you pay attention to price action.

>> No.57236185

>>57235883
She's definitely a cocksucker's cocksucker but this is just an anger headline. Unless she discloses some statements, she's already down 400 grand in taxes, 200+ grand for east coast lifestyle, 100+ grand is probably going to loans, another 100 grand is going to fees for lawyers for this whole thing. Half of what is left is going to retirement she won't see until she's shitting in a diaper.

>> No.57236193

>>57234708
I had something like this happen to me in a grocery checkout one time. Except it was because some loser was trying to spend my money at Costco for me.

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>>57236111
i mean its possible but you would probably end up having to awkwardly squat to really get in there at a good angle. it isn't as fun as it sounds because you are going to lose focus on the sexxooo and think about your quads getting worked or whatever.

>> No.57236200

>>57234812
TUP

>> No.57236241

>>57236083
I always assumed it was from the cartoon "yogi bear." That's what the big bear calls the little bear right before he gets in trouble for stealing picnic baskets.

>> No.57236246

Dateline January 9th, 2024
BOEING SALES BLOWS THE DOORS OFF COMPETITION

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>>57236197
Well yeah if the girl is too short you can't do her like that you gotta pick her up. Anyway who could have guessed the position is called Leg-up.

>> No.57236301

>>57236111
>>57236197
Vaginas point more down rather than forward than you would think. It's obvious if you've ever tried having sex while laying on your sides. You kind of have to get "under" the girl for it to work.

I don't think that would be too difficult.

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>crab day

>> No.57236334

>>57236318
>crab day
why am I almost 2000 dollars richer then?

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>>57236301
She can push her hips forward to help you out.

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>>57236177
digits checked and honkerpilled

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Power hour please!

>>57236334
Idk are you perhaps invested in crustaceans?

>> No.57236362

>>57236343
Oh I assumed you'd be going in from behind,
The problem is that her legs are already spread out, I don't think she could actually do that. It might only work if she's taller than usual and you're shorter than usual.

>> No.57236372

>>57236362
I mean she doesn't need to lift the leg up that high, and yeah if she's taller it'll help.

>> No.57236380

>>57236200
Did they make it?
>>57236152
Easy to do. Now reinvest the gains.
>>57236179
Ain't it?
>>57236241
I think that's booboo. But some circus had a bear named Bobo, and a clown named Bobo. And for a while I used it as my headshot compellation gamer tag.
>>57236301
1000 dick-chicks want a guy who can get in there like that. It can also be a hip location thing. Why the extra effort? Rear mount is king of all positions, and who cares if she likes it anyway? A guy who spends too much time caring if she likes it, will never get her pleased anyway. You either will or you won't the effort may be appreciated, but the neediness is 50/50 to her actually getting more from it.
This is not a subliminal Kimberly-Clark or Dixie sell, but now that abortion is questionably legal, maybe it should be.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pbQpEdwGEXo
>>57236362
Sure you can bend at the middle while connected at .. 2 spots of anchored mass.

>> No.57236386

Is it time to short NAT GAS?

>> No.57236387

>armed group enters Ecuatorian TV channel and takes everyone hostage live
lmao

>> No.57236391
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WTFWT

>> No.57236406

AMD chads can we breakthrough 150 right now?

>> No.57236408

>>57236177
in fairness he rarely comes up (because well...black swan lol) so if you shill him a new name in these threads it'd probably catch on

dodo makes sense given bird + similarity to bobo (has there ever been a positive black swan?)

>> No.57236410

>>57236380
>want a guy who can get in there like that.
IME the ones that care that much just get on top.

>> No.57236442

>>57236387
Long TV broadcasters

>> No.57236463

>>57236408
idk about that... september 22 feels that way. fed usury.

>> No.57236468
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57236468

In this irrational AI bubble market that could last decades do you guys think setting up an automatic investment of 75% VOO and 25% SOXQ every week a good strategy?

Hoping if the whole AI hype ends early the 75% of my portfolio will only dip slightly. If the hype train continues as I expect it to that 25% of my portfolio in Semis will keep me from missing out on huge gains.

Just need someone to tell me that I am retarded.

>> No.57236473

>>57236410
Women say it's about size, but available canal is normally corresponding to hip width, which natively alters who can get in at that angle if same race. Same tribe, generally a long vag gal with a big dick guy will still have the proportional same distance to overcome. So, for the effort, she's aiming for a guy who would hurt her if face to face, or a guy who is perfectly shorter-hipped and can angle without killing his lower back. Honeymoon stuff, worth the effort in your late teens early 20s. By the time you're 30, if she's talking about this, she's the cougar with Jerome on speed dial.

>>57236406
As long as you do not redeem.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufvaz0Bvoww

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>>57236468
>that could last decades
Nah it will end this year.

>> No.57236477

NVDA 600 EOQ I’m all in

>> No.57236478

>>57236468
you are retarded

>> No.57236501

>>57236475
I feel like it might have a minor correction but it will go on for MUCH longer. Especially with FED rates decreasing and many companies completely automating their customer service centers.

>> No.57236510

>>57236478
Thank you anon. This is what I needed to hear. Going to go with my strategy then!

>> No.57236521

>>57236501
They're already at 100 P/E's and when the FED cuts it's probably because the economy is in the shitter meaning they won't do well, and after that inflation will become a problem again which is not good for semis and the economy in general.

>> No.57236541

>>57236521
Wrong. SOXQ's PE ratio is at 25.66. I am not investing in just Nvidia. I am investing in all of them.

>> No.57236546
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>24yro living with Mommy and Daddy
>housing market is prolapsed (Colorado)
>waging it up in retail
>putting $1k into savings monthly, now up to $26k
>familiar with stock orders
How much should I put into stocks or pennyshit? Can I get a running start on intraday gains by putting a few thousand into something?

>> No.57236582

>>57236541
>PE ratio is at 25.66
Either way not cheap. The semis cycle is closer to a top than to a bottom, but you do you.

>> No.57236585

>>57236501
>Especially with FED rates decreasing
Higher longer doesn't suggest lowering rates. If I'm honest, I'm not sure the economy does either. Redbook came in nice. Jobs are strong. Even manufacturing did a bump on last numbers. Turns out, when an entire country of 42 million is having everything blown up two or three times, there's alot of weird and common stuff that needs to be produced. I can't see an immediate future where rates get below 4% next year.
The only reason I want rates lower is it's time someone put Boeing to bed on a story of bunnies, and that production line will not be cheap.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9j9rr0-n-DU

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>>57236546
>familiar with stock orders
>How much should I put into stocks
All of it obviously.

>> No.57236604

>>57236546
>How much should I put into stocks
however much you won't need in the near future or a theoretical emergency
>or pennyshit
none

>> No.57236629

>>57236582
>>57236585
So what do you guys think is a good place to park money? Got too much in FDLXX (Treasury fund giving 5% a year) for my tastes. Just go Vanguard total market?

I feel like what a lot of people are missing is that we have had HUGE inflation in the past few years. Stocks are actually undervalued since we are looking at them expecting to be priced as they were in 2019.

>> No.57236634

>>57236629
>So what do you guys think is a good place to park money?
Commodities when they bottom and emerging markets.

>> No.57236665

>>57236408
>(has there ever been a positive black swan?)
Thats a white swan but no one calls it that. Now its basically just MELT UP!

>> No.57236668

>>57236629
>So what do you guys think is a good place to park money?
msft.

>> No.57236685

>>57236629
hopefully u didnt have that money parked there for 2023. You should be buying VTI unless you need that parked money for something soon

>> No.57236702

>Degenerately goes all-in on BITW

>> No.57236711

>>57236468
my plan is to buy the dips on all these companies. mainly google, microsoft, apple, snowflake, etc.

don't buy etfs 7% after inflation annual come on play the market you can do better than that. etfs are for people who think markets are efficient and can't be beat. just buying dips on momentum and hype stocks has severely outperformed them.

also if you want to really maximize and you are patient put your investment money into a HYSA and wait for a huge market downturn then lump sum into like microsoft or tesla or some shit. that is how you dog the market and get average 30% annual over a 5 year period. takes patients because you might not be able to buy anything for awhile but then there is opportunity cost 4.75% in a HYSA or DCA with like 80% and 20% in HYSA.

>> No.57236714

>>57236685
About 1/3 of my portfolio is in the Treasuries fund. A bit too much if you ask me. Want it to be strictly an emergency fund. Been leaning towards VOO over VTI since I see companies consolidating with the big players continuing to dominate.

>> No.57236744
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Tech bros why are we so flat today?
I guess we should be happy we're beating the S&P and RUT

>> No.57236747

>>57236711
Eh. Tried doing the momentum stuff via playing with SOXL. Guess what? After a couple of years my average returns are about market rate. Not worth the time and energy unless you are really sure about a company (Microsoft and T-mobile are my favorite picks that I'll keep around). Everything else goes to ETFs.

>> No.57236761

>>57236685
why do retards insist on everyone giving all their money to the jews in Blackrock and Vanguard?
you are literally handing over your hard-earned voting power in corporations to characters that promote DEI, trannies, gay sex, and niggers

Do you not see the serious ethical concerns, on top of rather lacklustre just-average returns?

>> No.57236780

well got stopped out of my SOXL

Owell

Was a good run. Made $14000 since monday. kek. Gonna make a steak and get the wife to suck me off. Good luck to all.

for awhile there i was over 25k in just 48 hours

>> No.57236786

>>57236761
Vanguard is investor owned dumbass. Do I give up some voting rights? yes. Is it going to jews like blackrock or citadel? not really.

>> No.57236788

>>57236761
>>57236714
i didnt recommend VTI. Anon mentioned it and I said it would be better than leaving it in MM/Treasuries. I would recommend something more aggressive but he didn't sound like he wanted to take big risks with it

>> No.57236794

>>57236629
Not this guy's yard, he's playing with squirrels.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTvS9lvRxZ8
I haven't recovered from new years. Line go up, not much else I'm thinking. I'm gonna need more time to give a full view.

>> No.57236801

China turnaround when?

Answer me, shitbirds

>> No.57236802

>>57236747
it's not momentum you were using a leverage semi conductor. come on bro wth you didnt listen what i am saying. you dca on dips into actual good tech companies like micrsoft or apple and then put the other 20% in HYSA this is going to be your lump sum for when the market tanks. if you buy at extremely depressed prices in a lump sum when the market rebounds you are looking at like 500% gains over a couple years. how do you think good investors get 30% annual? they bought a lot at the right time. DCA in on the dips but always keep a couple stacks ready to buy them out.

3x leveraged momentum trading is not what i was telling you. i am telling you to buy and hold the dips and then lump sum and hold when the market is down. you will know when it is.

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>>57236801
Now.

>> No.57236813

>>57236801
>>57236801
havent you been on /pol? China is finished. Done. Kaput. Its over

>> No.57236819

>>57235055
9/11 airlines

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>>57234836
um VZ divy chads? i dont feel so good

>> No.57236835

>>57236813
According to pol, everything is kaput, so that's not saying much

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>>57236813
>/pol/
>China is finished.
We've hit the bottom.

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>>57236820
>VZ

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>>57236819
>9/11 airlines

>> No.57236855

>>57236786
> investor-owned
and the largest individual shareholder is .... drumroll .... _____________

even ignoring that, there is no guarantee that the people at Vanguard who exercise your voting power won't spend it on DEI and ESG initiatives (despite the fact that they actually hurt the business by filling it with incompetent jeets or ruining its brand in the eyes of customers, e.g. Bud light)

>>57236788
checked and fair

>> No.57236857

>>57236546
You should treat the stock market like a casino. Assume any money you invest in stocks are forever lost. With that said, your safest bet is to invest in broad market indexes.

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..w-what happens when the nvda bubble pops?

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>>57236801
Now.

>> No.57236872

>>57235050
Everybody is drawing their money from real stocks and putting it into the eternal ponzi called the US stockmarket aka 401k

>> No.57236875

>>57236820
it's ex-dividend day today that's why it's falling. it will start going up tomorrow again because we can't have good things

>> No.57236878

>>57236867
>unusual_whales
what the fuck is that guy's problem?

>> No.57236887

>>57236857
You should treat the market like a chance to back companies you think are doing good things, or are important to your future. Playing greater-fool just leads to a society that disdains everyone and holdings that evaporate when the wrong board gets elected for the wrong reason.

>> No.57236890

OOOHHH WTFWT

>> No.57236892

>>57236867
Billions must expire.

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>>57236872
>Everybody is drawing their money from real stocks and putting it into the eternal ponzi called the US stockmarket
Well I guess that's good for us that like real stocks and not ponzies.

>> No.57236914

>>57235050
I bought into Orlen in November via OTC Pink. Modest investment, but I will probably increase my position soon. Just kind of want to wait to see how dividiend withholding taxes will be applied

The reasons the stock isn't too hot is:
1) Oil & Gas giant in an era where that's being phased out in favour of electric
2) Emerging market along with occasional political instability and stupid choices by the largest shareholder (Polish government - 49% stake), such as subsidizing lower gas prices
3) geopolitical instability in Eastern Europe - there is a war going on just across the border

>>57235193
good point as well, Orlen just buys raw gas it doesn't extract it from the ground

>> No.57236918

>>57236875
im the settlement group for the class action suit. just filed my claim. i guess they were charging my account some illegal administrative charge. i selected "paper check" as my payment method. once i receive the check im gonna wait to cash it for a while so whoever the accounting wagie that does their bank reconciliations will have to keep track of my outstanding check

>> No.57236920

>>57236901
Money being lost to ponzi schemes destroys potential for funding real production and literally makes everyone's lives worse.

>> No.57236923

>>57236744
cool off from eoy pump.

>> No.57236924

>>57236878
mostly politicians I think.

>> No.57236927

>>57236546
best advice i can give you is put 60% of it right now buy into some companies google apple amd a few just dont buy into stuff that is terrible. you have to read the financials i am 100% on apple because to me it is insane how much cash that business churns and has the 2nd highest customer base out of any company.

is the company nearly a monopoply? do they have a lot of customers? are their products very tangible and you see them everyday? if so yes put 60% of what you have in that company try to time it to where the prices are hitting the 200 day moving average. apple was there a few days ago. the rest you are going to put into a HYSA and now everything you invest 80% goes into the HYSA the other 20% you buy more of the stock you bought. don't buy new stocks. once the market does a reverse and your down 30% the blood is in the water the sell offs keep happening. you will probably be scared but this is the huge play. you move the money out of hte HYSA and you buy the bottom.

>> No.57236930

>>57236629
>stocks are undervalued
nah. inflation adjusted S&P price is still ~1.4std devs above its trendline (relative top ~10% all time). P/E ratio and GDP ratio are in similar positions

>>57236665
white swan would just imply normal activity
a melt up / crack up boom would probably still qualify as a black swan given stocks might go up but the dollar/society would go to shit lol

>>57236634
what's a good way to get commodities coverage? I could see a long-term bull cycle in commodities at some point here similar to previous decades
just buy & hodl PDBC and call it a day?

>> No.57236940
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Ding ding ding! How did it go today anon?

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>>57236940
+0.29%

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>>57236940
I'm not checking!

>> No.57236960

>>57236318
sauce now

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>>57236940

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57236963

>>57236940
i think i earned some MCD

>> No.57236966

>>57236940
-0.23% on CAD holdings, +0.14% on USD ones

>> No.57236970

>>57236952
based

>> No.57236973

>>57236867
bagholders cry for decades lol

>> No.57236980

>>57236914
>Just kind of want to wait to see how dividend withholding taxes will be applied
Sell at dividend ex-date if you're not Polish the withholding taxes are pretty high 19%.
>such as subsidizing lower gas prices
I thought it was electricity prices not gas?
>geopolitical instability in Eastern Europe - there is a war going on just across the border
Poland is in NATO and any aggression against them will be WW3, also most of the assets are in central western and northern Poland not close to border with Belorussia
>good point as well, Orlen just buys raw gas it doesn't extract it from the ground
They do extract gas though they own gas fields in Norway and Canada. They also buy gas from Saudi Aramco.

>> No.57236988
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57236988

Today's benchmarks:
>BOIL: 9.96%
>CCJ: 4.75%
>/HE: +1.95%
>KWEB: -1.49%
>MARA: -0.96%
>SOXL: 0.07%
>TMF: -1.72%
>TQQQ: 0.66%
>TSLA: -2.28%
>XXXX: -0.70%

How many did (You) beat?

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>>57236940
-.1%

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>>57236920
>Money being lost to ponzi schemes
It's transferred not lost.
>>57236930
Precious metal trusts or physical, OIL and Gas companies probably are the best. if you don't know shit about commodities buy XOM CVX BHP GLEN etc,,, just majors and stay away from small companies.

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>>57236960
aunt judys, nia

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new

>>57237007
>>57237007
>>57237007

>> No.57237024
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>>57236988
>BOIL: 9.96%
congrats BOILchads

>> No.57237060

>>57236980
> Polish withholding taxes are 19%
Canada and Poland have a tax treaty which brings it down to 15%, a rough industry standard
but given it's an OTC Pink denominated in USD, i hope American rules might not apply. I do have citizenship in Poland though, so when I visit in summer I might as well open a bank account and just transfer those OTC pink positions to a domestic Polish broker

>> No.57237086

>>57237060
Or you could sell on the ex-date considering the dividend is annual. Also someone needs to tell these guys to buy back stock, since it's so cheap It's without a doubt the best way to deploy capital.

>> No.57237096

>>57236940
-.15%, not sure why I even bother holding small cap ETFs

>> No.57237169

>>57236887
What are you smoking? The purpose of investing is to gain wealth. Every company has skeletons in their closets. If you want to help people, support actual non-profit organizations.

>> No.57237180

>>57237096
no cap

>> No.57237193

>>57237086
> someone needs to tell these guys
the CEOs and management is appointed by the Polish government, which gives absolutely zero fucks about the share price

>> No.57237261

they just approved btc etfs

>> No.57237454

>>57237261
nah, it was legit a fake tweet
it's hilarious