/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.57186422]

There is absolutely no way this bullrun is happening. There is ZERO chance. I am in multiple discord and twitter communities and literally everyone is 100% sure of themselves that there will be a parabolic bull market in the next 18 months. I see kids joining in saying "this is my first bullrun" like it's a guaranteed thing that everyone gets to experience every four years.

We have the ETFs coming online where our owners say things like "we will tame bitcoin". Volatility will die out quickly. No big moves up will ever happen again. Think bitcoin is slow now? It will move at the pace of the S&P soon and for the rest of your life.

[Anonymous No.57186441]

>>57186422
>It will move at the pace of the S&P soon and for the rest of your life.
yes but after institutions come in the space so there is still one last big run before it calms down

[Anonymous No.57186445]

>>57186422
>It will move at the pace of the S&P soon and for the rest of your life.
unironically already enough to make it. that would equal 3 yearly wages of gains.

[Anonymous No.57186496]

Yes, the institutions about to come into bitcoin are infamous for what they did to gold & silver when they got their ETF's (hint hint: gold & silver have been extremely stagnant over the past couple of decades, boomers are the ultimate bagholders).

Besides that OP, you're forgetting about the massive liquidity inflow into gold when it got it's first ETF. It was after the first inflow when the slow rugging started, so maybe sell BTC after it gets it's instant 5-10x from the ETF's going live?

[Anonymous No.57186524]

>>57186422
Btcs price action will become 10 times gayer and there'll be a Blackrock gap like the cme gap

[Anonymous No.57186812]

>>57186496
>>57186496
Ding ding ding ding

Fucking finally someone gets it. Can't believe the crypto scene is so red pilled but also so blind to this.

The ETF will hold shitloads of BTC, which you can't track actively as an investor allowing all kind of fuckery.

Meanwhile they will make it harder for you to hold legally bitcoin yourself. I think they will mark a lot of bitcoin of being dirty (used previously in illegal services). So you are not able to cash out or trade it for goods or services.

Do this for a while you've corned the whole BTC market. And now you can slowly dump the price of BTC.

When the price dumps the normies get out, crypto is dead and everyone moves on.

And that's how you kill an asset.

[Anonymous No.57186823]

>>57186422
Are you going to eat that?

[Anonymous No.57186876]

>>57186812
>which you can't track actively
You can

[Anonymous No.57187008]

>>57186496
>5-10x from the ETF's going live?
BTC has already made 99.8% of its gains it will ever make, it has a potential 5x in from here in the next TWO bull markets. The top is likely somewhere around 100k USD + or - 10k, which is only another 100% (conservatively) from here. GLHF. Then a potential 75% pullback (diminished volatility) to around 25k and then a weak as piss bull run to less than 0.5x of the potential 2025 ATH, and this will be in 2029.
Yes there will be a bull market, NO you wont get rich holding BTC and ETH.
Financial darwinism is a real thing, in other words.
YOU NEED TO TAKE THE SAME LEVEL OF RISK THE BTC BUYERS IN 2015 TOOK.
The rick/adjusted returns ARENT THE SAME.
Speculate on alts with 20-25k whilst you hold some BTC/ETH as your basic savings account, you literally have 12-16 months to do this before it gets even harder again.
Late fags don't win.

[Anonymous No.57187030]

>>57186876
No you can't, see all the fuckery of Tether. If you want you can make it unclear af if you hold any actual bitcoin and how much you hold.

[Anonymous No.57187045]

>>57186812
>kill an asset
Yeah, no.

The concept of this happening is just proof that crypto is a scam all the way down. It's intrinsic value is 0. Get out now.

[Anonymous No.57187050]

>>57187045
Seethe, tranny.

[Anonymous No.57187476]

>>57187045
no its tulip mania

[Anonymous No.57187484]

The etf thing is so retarded. U can't even transfer it, no wallet. Just a paper receipt. REJECT IT GARY

[Anonymous No.57187491]

>>57186422
People like you is why it will happen

[Anonymous No.57187497]

>>57186496
wrong. Gold blew up. and THEN went stagnant.

thats what we’re looking at. one seismic bullrun and then its over forever.

[Anonymous No.57187500]

>>57187008
t. sidelined & seething

[Anonymous No.57187564]

>>57187500
I bought BTC from 23k-6k usd
ETH @ 1-6k - 1.3k usd
SOL @ 20 usd
HLM @ 2 usd
LINK @ 6 usd
This is literally all been in the last 12 months.

SOL/LINK/HLM/RAY
Have all been in the last 6 months.
I'm literally trying to help retards and newfags.
(You)

[Anonymous No.57187573]

>>57187564
23k-16k*
When this board and every other counter-trade indicator was calling for 8k (lol)

[Anonymous No.57187582]

>>57187564
>>57187573
so true king. seethe more

[Anonymous No.57187602]

>>57186422
Confirmed. It's actually not happening because you want us to say that it IS happening because you're obviously lying.

Thats a shame. I wish you 3rd worlders would make some money so you can buy some fucking brooms, trash bags, and paint to make your part of the world not look like shit.

[Anonymous No.57187607]

>CRYPTO IS LE BAD

[Anonymous No.57187670]

>>57187497
But the way they did that was force almost all volume of trade into fake paper contracts and a physical vault that is by law forbidden to audit
Btc fixes this because everyone can see the chain since its very nature means total transparency
Also unlike gold the majority of supply which is hardcapped is out in the wild they cant manipulate it like gold
They were way too late with the etf, if it launched in 2015 they could take control, not anymore

[Anonymous No.57187706]

>>57186422
Same. For the past 3 months everywhere I look I see euphoria, from shills mostly. Especially after the fake ETF tweet. Nobody is BUYING. I haven't spoken to a single person who is actively buying. Everyone is simply not selling. So market makers can easily pump alts 3-4x. Admittedly, retail sellers who DCA'd or got lucky timing the local bottom are making some money off these pumps but market makers aren't letting them cash out to USD without dumping the price. All the real liquidity is in USDT, BTC, or ETH.

[Anonymous No.57188491]

>>57187484
Youre fucking RETARDES if yoj think the target audiencr of ETFs want custody of the asset

STOP POSTING

[Anonymous No.57188622]

>>57186422
Lmao nigger, ETFs are gonna do nothing but get BTC going full parabolic, I have my money ready to scoop several things on Rango as soon as that starts happening

[Anonymous No.57188629]

>>57188622
KEK, are niggers using aggregators still?

[Anonymous No.57188632]

>>57187607
No shit why we hate niggers and jews but over anyone sloys

[Anonymous No.57188639]

>>57188622
Get your facts straight

[Anonymous No.57188641]

>>57188622
Anon, ngmi, cope

[Anonymous No.57188694]

>>57186496
>>57186496
The only reason you would hold gold is to oneday redeem it for fiat. Other than that there is no point in hoarding it or holding it. To (you) it has no value. To the buyer it does.

During times of economic crisis and panic liquidity has flown to precious metals and physical assets. Money doesn’t disappear it flows inward. That’s why after this bullrun you want to sell your bitcoin/stock profits for silver. We’re poised for an economic recession for years to come. Silver is heavily shorted to the point that after all that downward pressure. It will eventually come back to being as valuable as platinum or gold.

[Anonymous No.57189351]

>>57187030
Do you even know what a blockchain is, retarded nigger?

[Anonymous No.57189385]

>>57186496
>>57187497
>>57187670
>>57188694

Why are you illiterate faggots comparing a commodity to crypto currencies?

The two couldn't be more different than the other.

Holy shit this thread has the dumbest takes I have seen in a big while.

>I feel like I'm dying of ligma just by reading this drivel

[Anonymous No.57189448]

>>57187008
I'm afraid this anon gets it.
Top is perhaps 80k this cycle and then a.decade of bear

[Anonymous No.57189515]

>>57187008
confirmed it's over thanks anon

[Anonymous No.57189537]

>>57189448
>>57189515
i say le bearish scenario therefore i am smart

[Anonymous No.57189602]

>>57186422
>discord and twitter
new fags pay attention
/biz/ always has been and always will be a /pol/ board. We rolled our eth into ICP.

[Anonymous No.57189670]

Shoeshine boys were hawking stocks sure, but the broad markets still up 40,000% from 1924. Don’t doubt a new paradigm retard

[Anonymous No.57189732]

>>57186496
>da heckin hedgies are short laddering da shiny rocks!
Retard. Long term market manipulation is impossible, gold has performed exactly as one would expect a mature (fully capitalized) Money with 2% annual mining inflation to perform. BTC still needs to 20x to get to Au level "boring", and even then it'll outperform as it's inflation rate is less than Au and falling

[Anonymous No.57189741]

>>57189448
No, he doesn't get it. And neither do you.

[Anonymous No.57189773]

>Twitter doomers and Discord femboys think it's not happening
>Beoble and biz men think it's happening
I am a man.

[Anonymous No.57189796]

>>57189741
they're delusional and/ or inexperienced kooks
you got it anon, you got it

[Anonymous No.57189861]

>>57189602
>discord and twitter
vs.
>/pol/
I'm going to have to go with the crucible of /pol/ on this one.

[Anonymous No.57189888]

>>57186812
>Meanwhile they will make it harder for you to hold legally bitcoin yourself. I think they will mark a lot of bitcoin of being dirty (used previously in illegal services). So you are not able to cash out or trade it for goods or services.
What language is this?

[Anonymous No.57189902]

>>57189537
>mad, nervous and poor
lel

[Anonymous No.57189927]

>>57188694
BTC, like Au, is a Money (unit of account), not currency (transactional media), the monetary value of Money is a product of a money's "moneyness", that is, how well it approximates a perfect money. Perfect money has universal acceptance so network effect is a large fraction of a money's value, this is the cause of the OG shitcoin (Ag) fall, not manipulation, without currency demand for a poor money like silver it quickly loses all it's money value to superior Money like Au, and now Au will follow Ag on the path to industrial metal being outclassed by a still superior Money (BTC).

[Anonymous No.57189932]

>>57186422
Whether it is or isn't, I'm sick of all the crypto "news" sources trying to make something out of nothing. "Three Coins To Invest In Today" clickbait that tells you to buy two mainstream coins and then heavily and aggressively push some literally-who token they either got paid to promote or are heavily invested in already

[Anonymous No.57189992]

>>57189861
; )

[Anonymous No.57190050]

>>57189861
>>57189992
Look at the current narrative.
>Tucker pushing s&p instead of money managers >>57189702
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LYnXh3PMPQ
>>boomers move inheritances into the s&p, drawing cash away from small/mid-caps and providing exit liquidity
>investment banks cash out and move into crypto
Insert some longer-term plan to give the nogs reparations just in time for some massive doge pump and dump in five years.
I mean... does that seem COMPLETELY unfeasible?

[Anonymous No.57190060]

Oops.
>>57189861 should have been >57189602 in
>>57190050

[Anonymous No.57190087]

Ugh.
>>57189602
See above.

[Anonymous No.57190092]

>>57190060
Fucked me up for a second, thx for the clarification. You're good anon keep spreading the truth.

[Anonymous No.57190183]

>>57190092