/pmg/ - Precious Metals General

[Anonymous No.57135832]

Fractionals! Fractionals! Fractionals! Edition.

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/ (US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

Previous Thread: >>57126532

[Anonymous No.57135845]

I need more gold after I buy a 100toz bar and some kilos of silver.

[Anonymous No.57135907]

>>57135845
Kilo bars of silver are my favorite size

[Anonymous No.57135931]

>>57135907
wrong pic

[Anonymous No.57135960]

REAL THREAD
>>57135847
>>57135847
>>57135847

[Anonymous No.57135968]

>>57135832
The Desolation of (THIS THREAD)
>>57135847
>>57135847

[Anonymous No.57135979]

>>57135968
Gay, that's the poorfag thread where nobody posts stack pics.

[Anonymous No.57136003]

possible for silver to reach new ath next year? or a rrepeat of this year?

[Anonymous No.57136087]

>>57136003
It's not moving until the wheels fall off one of the short busses keeping it where it is. You'll know when that happens. Probably.

[Anonymous No.57136129]

>>57135832
>Fractionals! Edition.

[Anonymous No.57136166]

>>57136003
It'll crab until something big happens. Something like everyone dumping the USD. One fifth of the oil purchased last year was done so NOT using the USD, and I see that number growing in the coming years.

[Anonymous No.57136195]

*burp*

[Anonymous No.57136198]

>>57136195
fractionals, you say?

[Anonymous No.57136221]

>>57135845
i need more silver after i buy another oz of gold

2200 an ounce sure is going to hurt tho

[Anonymous No.57136226]

>>57136129
Beautiful. I take it you're in the UK?

>>57136198
>3x gold 20 peso Aztec calendar coins
Very jelly, they're on my shopping list

[Anonymous No.57136251]

And once again, the gun show today was such a massive dissapointment.
Fuck boomers.

[Anonymous No.57136262]

>>57136251
100% agree, I used to find good deals at gun shows but now the prices are worse than online dealers, and the parking sucks.

[Anonymous No.57136292]

>>57136129
That's some serious autism you've got there.

[Anonymous No.57136308]

What you brehs stacking for 2024?

[Anonymous No.57136336]

>>57136308
an eagle
a buffalo

some silvers

id also like the 3/4oz kennedy and a $5 indian
think about starting the liberty head series

[Anonymous No.57136367]

>>57136308
Britannias, I guess. Maybe some booba if the premiums on the '24s aren't too high.

[Anonymous No.57136389]

>>57136226
>I take it you're in the UK?
Nope, I'm a burger. I appreciate the security features on the Brits.

>>57136292
>That's some serious autism you've got there.
I got it in my head that I wanted the complete set of Lizzies. It's kind of like filling in one of those coin books...except I have no book.

[Anonymous No.57136403]

>>57136198
Based peso enjoyer.

[Anonymous No.57136415]

>>57136308
More of these while I'm laid off. Once I'm back to work in the spring it'll be back to the 1ouncers.

[Anonymous No.57136536]

>>57136415

[Anonymous No.57136575]

Still waiting for tracking number mintanon...

[Anonymous No.57136606]

Hey you guys; I found an estate sale with this collection near me. I am pretty sure there is value. Would 50$ out the door be fair/profitable?

[Anonymous No.57136615]

Here’s the rundown. I got 500$ a month in free capital for PMs. 20% of my monthly net. How do I play this?

>full ounce of gold every four months
>swap between 500$ towards bulk silver and 500$ towards a full gold ounce every month.
>buy 500$ combined between 5 grams of gold and 5 ounces of silver.

Currently at 820:5. What do?

[Anonymous No.57136628]

>>57136606
>hey guys do you think they'll take $50 for these coins with a face value well over $100?

[Anonymous No.57136691]

>>57135832
Fractionals it is then, and seasonal to boot.

[Anonymous No.57136715]

If you buy the coins you like, you'll never feel regret

[Anonymous No.57136746]

>>57136195
there's no silver in the picture

[Anonymous No.57136751]

>>57136715
Wise words. Think I’m just going to save til I have the $ to buy sexy things I want. Silver 2023 year of the rabbit kilo is damn near a grand.

[Anonymous No.57136767]

>>57136746
its stashed away

getting worried about my crusaders

[Anonymous No.57136779]

>>57136615
I'd get half ounces if I were in your situation.

[Anonymous No.57136786]

>>57136751
>Silver 2023 year of the rabbit kilo is damn near a grand.
My friend, here's the best deal I could find on a 2023 kilo rabbit. $872:
https://www.boldpreciousmetals.com/product/3738/2023-silver-1-kilo-perth-lunar-year-of-the-rabbit-bu

[Anonymous No.57136803]

>>57136751
average ap mex user

[Anonymous No.57136806]

Smol

[Anonymous No.57136822]

how about this chuck? niue turtle

[Anonymous No.57136830]

>>57136803
>seething about Apmex, non-stop every /pmg/ thread
Did someone from Apmex touch your no-no areas?
I know they're usually overpriced but what you mouth-breathing poorfags don't understand is that Apmex gets first dibs on international bullion products and they have the best selection. Once in a while, best prices too.

[Anonymous No.57136841]

>>57136615
>820:5
164:1
But ratios should be reference points, not goals.
It would help to know where you are, to have an idea of how you get taxed.
I get as much gold as possible. I do save up for occasional ounces, but will buy down to 1/4 ozt if the price is right and the piece is interesting.
Pic related: 5g bar from 3 angles.

[Anonymous No.57136950]

>>57136841
I’m a burger in a free state with no VAT tax or anything similar. Anything less than 1/4 oz of gold is looked down on by /pmg/ but gold is gold at the end of the day.

[Anonymous No.57137034]

>>57136841
Just looking at what’s in and around my price range I could justify a 1/4 oz of gold or 20 oz of silver monthly. It would also be a 1:1 stack once I leveled things out. I’ll do that when I have more available moneys but I’m liking the cycled metals.

[Anonymous No.57137074]

Where do you sell your stacks at?

[Anonymous No.57137123]

>>57137074
your mom's house
1 week of bjs = 1 oz of silver

[Anonymous No.57137212]

>>57136308
Kooks

[Anonymous No.57137233]

>>57137034
>cycled metals
? I'm not sure what that is.
Anyway... also check out the European old coins - the Latin Monetary Units. They usually have a very low premium - like 2-4% - and range from .12 ozt to .24 ozt for good prices. But you have to have patience and shop/compare prices to find good deals.
Also, don't let /pmg/ tards bully you into buying something through peer pressure. There's good advice and bad, and everyone claims theirs is the best. Make your own judgements, only you know your situation.

[Anonymous No.57137253]

>>57136841
I already have a higher gold:silver ratio than I’d like, but man do I want one of these KINObars. Sucks needing to budget instead of spending every cent on shiny rocks

[Anonymous No.57137376]

>>57137233
Gold one month, silver the next, repeat.

[Anonymous No.57137548]

Im still at the bar

[Anonymous No.57137557]

When gold 3000?

[Anonymous No.57137571]

>>57137548
Why you at bar, anon? Booze bad for stack.

[Anonymous No.57137626]

Fug bros I got a kilo coin on my wishlist and six weeks before I’ve got enough. What do in the meantime? Small buys of silver or a strengthening of the will?

[Anonymous No.57137693]

>>57137376
You have a plan.
Wishing you success...

[Anonymous No.57137724]

I just checked - Anon's gilded Crusader sold for $102. Somewhat underwhelming. With ebay and shipping fees, it might even be at a slight loss.

[Anonymous No.57137736]

>>57137693
Those are some pristine pieces of gold, anon.

[Anonymous No.57137769]

bought something from 7-eleven and the cashier owed me $3 but she gave me $2 and a HALF DOLLAR coin. pic related is the coin she gave me.

[Anonymous No.57137772]

>>57136830
apmex claws typed this, but in all serious though they're are better cheaper options then apmex and anyone defending them is simply coping withe the fact that they bought overpriced gold and silver,

[Anonymous No.57137782]

>>57137769
Fucking awesome, anon. I’ve found one whole quarter among hours of hunting and you just got handed a silver half. Fug

[Anonymous No.57137796]

>>57137769
why is raggedy Ann on your table?

[Anonymous No.57137810]

>>57137782
if it makes you feel any better nothing good ever happens to me and none of my investments ever pay off
>>57137796
it's a raggedy ann book i bought at an antique shop the other day

[Anonymous No.57138794]

commenting

[Anonymous No.57138933]

>>57136251
gun shows havent been good since the surplus market dried up in the early 2000s. internet also kinda killed it, but mostly its for shitty boomers and hoodrats.

[Anonymous No.57138942]

>>57138933
This. I will say though I've gotten some good prices on brass at shows in the past since I don't have to deal with shipping costs.

[Anonymous No.57138943]

>>57137724
meme coins dont hold their value really. fun, but anyone who thought they would make a mint (Lol) on PMG memes is retarded

[Anonymous No.57138965]

>>57138942
ya, sometimes you can catch a guy on sunday who doesnt wanna load up his car lol but i get hit with the following alot
>i know what i got sunny
it gets old

[Anonymous No.57138985]

>>57138965
>i know what i got sunny
I've been hit with that a few times and always reply "yeah a lost sale". Occasionally they tirade and when they look like an ass in public no one else would want to buy from them. Physical wounds heal, psychological wounds don't.

[Anonymous No.57138986]

>>57136615
Shop around for low premium gold LMU 20 francs (5.8 g)
Also british sovs and south african 2 rands (7.32 g)

[Anonymous No.57139047]

>>57138985
boomers are the worst lol.

[Anonymous No.57139059]

>>57139047
is haggling normal at gun shows? I mean if you tried that at literally any store in the US you'd just get kicked out or arrested.

[Anonymous No.57139064]

>>57139059
yes, it generally is very accepted. mostly because you are dealing with someone who brought items to a show to sell, a place where there are dozens of competing tables selling the same or very similar item

[Anonymous No.57139106]

>>57139064
I think people vend at those events as a way of socializing and don't actually want to sell anything.

[Anonymous No.57139146]

>>57139106
Yeah. There's a few tables at larger shows by me where guys like to show off their collections of historical and or class III stuff with large "not for sale" signs. I'll glance but never talk to those guys.

[Anonymous No.57139228]

>>57139064
>>57139106
>>57139146
weird stuff. I wonder if it'll die off when the boomers are all gone? Last time we did a garage sale it was the same thing. Boomers lined up at the door an hour before we woke up, just to mill around and go "will you take 15 cents for this?"

[Anonymous No.57139238]

>>57139228
they're just bored. I do the same thing in my interaction with drug addicts.

[Anonymous No.57139244]

>>57139228
Americans can't comprehend how little there is for elderly people to do since their country got swamped by foreigners. lots of them do "buying" and selling of junk just as a way to get out and socialize.

[Anonymous No.57139277]

>>57139228
i think estate sales will last, but yard sales and these trade shows are going the way of the dodo

[Anonymous No.57139393]

>>57139277
yard sales only work in a homogeneous community where people aren't assholes to each other. It's a way of socializing and if people fuck with each other and steal stuff and act abusively it just doesn't work.

When I was a kid was the golden age of garage sales because tons of people had stuff to clear out and tons of boomers were bored on the weekends so I'd ride around on bikes with friends and buy junk with money from doing paper routes. I collected hundreds of thousands worth of vintage games because you could buy NES+30 game sets for 10 bucks. I did this from age 10-maybe 14 and it was a good part of my life desu.

Nowadays with multiculturalism, zero trust communities, take but never give mentality, and e-commerce garage sales are pretty much done.

One of the reasons IMO it worked is because it was hard to figure out the value of stuff but now with google and e-commerce there is no reason to sell stuff for pennies on the dollar.

what kills me is I saw lots of vintage luxury watches during that period and they were going for PENNIES compared to what they are now. I saw lots of vintage watches at the time but didn't even understand what they are at the time. I even saw a vintage rolex submariner and the guy literally said "its old but it'll probably be worth something some day". Would have taken 50 bucks. It kills me thinking about it. The other gold mine that is long gone is comics. I bought huge, huge collections of 30's to 50's comics for pennies on the dollar that you would never ever see today

the only joy I get with second hand goods these days is cash for gold shops because I like used gold watches and cash for gold shops can get you good deals and are way less hassle / dangerous than private sales with strangers.

[Anonymous No.57139435]

>>57139393
>it was hard to figure out the value of stuff but now with google and e-commerce there is no reason to sell stuff for pennies on the dollar.
Everyone has a hustle and grift because of it now, which is highly competitive and a race to the bottom. The resale rats pick through everything before anyone else has a chance. Video games and instruments got hit hard with it and prices follow auction values and retail list prices that aren't reflective of actual sale prices. You already saw this happening in the 90s but it came to a head around 2004-7. Most of your gun show and flea market sellers are legitimate businesses and not private sellers for lack of a better word.

[Anonymous No.57139492]

>>57139435
when I talk about garage sales I mean literally riding around on a bicycle looking for garage sale signs posted on trees and then going into some elderly person's basement. I graduated in 2005 so would have been doing this 95-2001. And, as I said I bought multiple giant comic collections and video game collections with the money I made running a paper route after school delivering flyers which was maybe 40 dollars per pay check.

This kind of thing I can't even imagine being possible today because of safety -- who will let strangers into their home? Because of google and e-commerce... etc.

Maybe I experienced the end of it. I wasn't even doing it with profit in mind. I just didn't have enough money for new game systems and felt like my money went further buying collections of vintage games than it would have buying new stuff. Same with comics. I bought giant collections of golden age stuff because I thought it would be cool to read them and it wasn't until years later that I understood what the value was.

[Anonymous No.57139514]

Good morning, frens

[Anonymous No.57139521]

>>57139492
I also collected an absurd number of pic related. I wish I still had them but I had several giant framed cork boards full of pins that I collected during that period. Same with baseball pennants... I collected tons of them during that period.

Garage sales are just a part of white autism I think and will be gone with every other part of our culture once we are totally demographically displaced.

Garage sales are like metal detecting. They're only fun if there's some gold nuggets in the mix and if you don't get lucky every once in a while it's no longer fun. As I said-- in canada at least I think garage sales are long gone.

[Anonymous No.57139536]

>>57139521
I'd even say that today I'd rather go metal detecting on the beach than to garage sales since the internet has killed the allure of the garage sale. At least on a beach with a metal detector you have a decent chance of finding a nice gold bracelet that some drunk idiot dropped

[Anonymous No.57139548]

>>57139536
Yeah, it's gone to shit. Estate stores are still fun where you have boomer owners that don't quite know how to look up prices for everything or just don't care.

[Anonymous No.57139566]

>>57139548
watches are the only thing that activates my autism these days since I've already been through pins, comics, and vintage games.

[Anonymous No.57139615]

>>57139393
I used to see many old treasures sitting on shelves at used bookstores, game stores, etc. You could really score some good deals on stuff you actually wanted to read/play/whatever.
But amazon killed the bric and mortar stores, and people started hoovering up anything they thought they could make a buck with by reselling on ebay. This along with all the retro collectorino videos on youtube created a bubble. Now I don't bother buying anything at all, except maybe old silver and gold coins (but only if the price is gud). Because at least I know the value of Ag/Au will only increase from here on, relatively to everything else.

[Anonymous No.57139620]

>>57139548
I am think estate sales really are king at this point. Greedy zoomers looking to offload grandma and grandpa’s belongings for a little bit of extra cash. They don’t know what they had, and don’t care, as long as long as they have some cash in their pocket. Zoomers seem to be the ones who will let shit go for very cheap if they have no use for it and have better use, in their mind anyway, for that money. Gen X seem to be the biggest penny pinchers and hagglers, in my experience, worse than boomers even.

[Anonymous No.57139642]

>>57136251
You gotta stop thinking gun shows are were you buy guns. I use gun shows to finger fuck guns and see what I might want to buy in the future also for a good laugh.
>hey boomer what would you take for that sks
>800 bucks you say? Wow that's a good deal, you mind if I take a look at it?
>proceed to finger fuck thier whole table of ww2 memorabilia
>walk away without buying anything and watch them have an aneurysm

[Anonymous No.57139647]

>>57139620
The young don't know or care about much of anything and zoomers are only slightly worse than the previous generations in that regard. They don't know what they got and don't want to, so to speak.

Fuck gen x.

[Anonymous No.57139651]

>>57139548
yeah, there are always diamonds in the rough if people are buying and selling big lots of stuff from different categories. I have a pretty big collection of gold jewelry and heavy 18k watches I've gotten for good prices from pawnshops, cash for gold shops, etc. the thing with gold jewelry and watches is that it is a type of collecting that you can never really complete because its so expensive. lots of heavy gold watches are 3000USD + worth of gold and there is lots of crazy stuff out there. There's on I want that is close to 400g of 18k that a consignment shop in the states have... but desu I worry even if the price is good that It'll get stolen in the mail.

[Anonymous No.57139713]

>>57139647
>Fuck gen x.

What happened to them exactly? Like I said, they’re hands down the worst when it comes to hustling and penny pinching. They have very poor emotional control, especially during any sort of financial transaction. There’s a lot of cool ones, but they tend to be country as fuck, and those are uncommon around where I’m at. Not rare, which is nice, but pretty uncommon.

[Anonymous No.57139741]

>>57139620
less about greedy zoomers, more about inventory and time costing money

take it from me; i work in hollywood (evil). i am a set dresser and at the end of a show we strike (get rid of) the set. typically we do a fold and hold or will pass the stuff to another of the productions shows, but i have also seen it plenty of times where the contract on the building space lease is coing to an end and everything must go

we donate and take as much as we can, but we still throw god stuff away (it burns my soul). we scrap
>good conduit, unused PVC, lumber, etc.
>books, dvds, kitchen gear, yard tools, office supplies, etc, any number of smalls for background fluffing
>furniture (i have furnished like 2 whole houses)
>old bikes, filing cabinets, all sorts of metal

if i have the time i fill a 5 ton truck with all the metal and dump it for .09 cents a pound on the company dime. still though, epic amounts of waste

estate sales are often the ame mentality, its gotta go and if i can get .10 cents on the dollar of its value to be rid of it then lets do this. the people selling arent in the business of holding and reselling

[nigger No.57139748]

>>57139642
is that steve jobs from the show filthy jobs?

[Anonymous No.57139753]

>>57139647
>the young
>Fuck gen X.
What? Gen X is everyone born between 1965-1980

And they’re a direct product of greedy self absorbed boomers.


Millennials are all demoralized and traumatized their entire lives. 8 out of 10 have a fucked up childhood. Lived through 9/11 which the zoomers don’t know or care about so they have no connection to older or younger gens.
Boomers love war and Israel so they didn’t care.

[Anonymous No.57139757]

>>57139741
>estate sales are often the ame mentality, its gotta go and if i can get .10 cents on the dollar of its value to be rid of it then lets do this. the people selling arent in the business of holding and reselling
True. I understand their primary goal (and the big money) is to have the house ready for sale, and the less they have to move and throw out themselves, the better.

[Anonymous No.57139767]

>>57139748
its joe dirt

[Anonymous No.57139790]

>>57139713
Their parents were cold war vets with untreated PTSD and they were psyopped to hell and back in the 70s and 80s. I feel bad for some of them and the ones who have their shit together are alright, but they're just boomer:redux on the whole.

>>57139753
My parents were fucked up boomers, my friends parents were gen x retards. That's enough reason to hate both of them.

[Anonymous No.57139795]

>>57139620
what region are you in?

[Anonymous No.57139815]

I need gold

[Anonymous No.57139828]

>>57139795
Great Lakes

[Anonymous No.57139841]

>>57139790
My dad is gen x. If you gave him a dollar on Monday he will turn it into 100 bucks by Friday and owe 50 bucks by Monday. He is all about estate, garage, and storage unit sales. He can make a dollar off anything but is terrible with money and spends it faster than he can make it.

[Anonymous No.57139845]

>>57139828
what do you get at estate sales?

[Anonymous No.57139851]

>>57139748
>>57139767
I so hope you guys are trolling me

[Anonymous No.57139856]

>>57139841
this is the reason I focus my autism on gold and silver. if you collect gold and silver you can't really lose long term if you buy it at scrap prices.

[Anonymous No.57139864]

>>57139767
o
my
missed
steak

[Anonymous No.57139875]

>>57139845
Depends really. Silverware, and antiques I find neat. It’s rare I actually get my ass up and go, so I’m sure I’ve missed on a lot of shit.

[Anonymous No.57139879]

>>57139856
My assets are purely metals and guns specifically with how boring they are. Money and markets should not ever be as greedy and corrupt as they’ve become.

Also big titty mousepads.

[Anonymous No.57139880]

>>57139845
Best stuff is “contents of basement”.
a lot of time both the seller and the auction company are lazy and dont open every box. Boom.
I spent $26 bucks on basement junk and got a bunch mid-mo punch bowl set, bunch of nice glasses and some other junk which i sold for probably $500 over the year. Its actual work doing it, driving, sorting, listing, donating the stuff you know you cant sell, cleaning off the dust, shipping yada yada. But its fun!l for a little extra jingle!

[Anonymous No.57139886]

>>57139879
she’d snap your dick off faster than a rat up a drain pipe
>>57139864
Is this xavier milieu

[Anonymous No.57139887]

>>57139841
> sample size of 1
This is the state of modern science.

[Anonymous No.57139906]

>>57139856
That's were most of my money goes as well, that and video games and books.

[Anonymous No.57139908]

>>57139887
add my great grandfather to that list, he ran some fleamarkets in dallas texas, father of 8. he was a hustler through and through, when he went he didnt have anything to give, spent it all on his kids,
RIP pop, carrying on his legacy turning JUNK into GOLD literally now

[Anonymous No.57139926]

>>57139880
Thats one of the reasons my dad loves storage unit sales, they never go through the boxes(the honest ones at least). So you never know what you are going to get. We have found some real treasure and real garbage in storage units.

[Anonymous No.57139937]

>>57139887
Wasn't claiming my dad represents all of gen x just saying what my dad is like as a gen xer

[Anonymous No.57139948]

>>57139908
In texas as well my dad probably bought some shit off your graddad kek

[Anonymous No.57139966]

>>57139906
having an e-reader killed my urge to collect books.

[Anonymous No.57139971]

>>57139879
>one of the first animes i ever really watched
>accidently discoverd on adult swim back in the good old days
I think it's time we blow this scene
Get everybody and the stuff together
Okay, three, two, one, let's jam

[Anonymous No.57139976]

>>57135832
I’ve got some upcoming expenses and won’t be able to buy as much silver anymore. Fun while it lasted I guess but college is expensive

[Anonymous No.57139996]

>>57139948
He actually lived in a small town south of dallas but would rent peoples yards because he got more traffic up there.
Lets keep up the tradition and keep turning them bucks. Pop would always buy truck loads of food and days like today he’d never spare on fireworks, Back in the day the whole neighborhood would be on the street and new years in texas might as well be springtime

[Anonymous No.57140009]

>>57139966
I have both, the books I really enjoy I keep physical copies, and older books you can't or are hard to find e copies of like the vlad taltos series.

[Anonymous No.57140011]

I
>>57139966
I'm looking to make a tiddy little profit selling a few books. Soon as one comes in, I could probably do a 4x on it after the initial scalping dries up and walk away with a few grand hopefully.

[Anonymous No.57140019]

>>57139966
only ebooks i read are racist /pol/ books thats $100+ a lot of the time on account of the racism.
I read this book “Sirens of the titans” recently and holy fuck what a sleeper, i dont hear it recommended enough. Mindbending scifi space with time traveling elements. Go read it!

[Anonymous No.57140020]

>>57139937
is he a kevin smith type gen xer?

[Anonymous No.57140026]

>>57139971

[Anonymous No.57140059]

>>57139996
I still have the urge to treasure hunt I just can't do it anymore lol. I remember getting up well before the sun to go hunt deals with dad, driving all over the state in our old beat up truck hauling a trailer. We had a storage container in the front yard to store all the stuff we would get and then every other weekend having to spend the days dragging it all out and setting up to sell it all before having to drag what we didn't sell back into storage.

[Anonymous No.57140072]

crypto nerds will seethe

[Anonymous No.57140080]

>>57139971
I hate most all anime and am self aware that my weeb years were as much filling empty time as enjoying any of the mountainous jap slop I consumed BUT…

Cowboy Bebop is #1 forever even if that’s a totally inoffensive take. Fuck EVA.

[Anonymous No.57140104]

>>57139971
>never changed to this channel because I thought the name "Cowboy Bebop" was for a kids show

[Anonymous No.57140133]

>>57140020
I'm not sure who I would compare my dad to. He is a 16 year old pushing 60, can take anything and make money off it, but can't keep a dollar to his name. Loves alt rock, fast bikes, fishing, and tattoos. His daily driver is a hearse(because it was to good a deal not to buy and he borrowed the money to buy it from me).

[Anonymous No.57140138]

ultimate bagholder thread

never any profit for you

[Anonymous No.57140145]

>>57139886yesakasaviorofwesterncivilization

[Anonymous No.57140169]

>>57140133
Your dad and my dad sound similar; I call them Proto-Boomers.

[Anonymous No.57140172]

>bagholder

[Anonymous No.57140183]

>>57138985
The Liberty wasn't sunk.
There were no life rafts to shoot at.
"Though Liberty was severely damaged, with a 39 ft wide by 24 ft high (12 m × 7.3 m) hole and a twisted keel, her crew kept her afloat, and she was able to leave the area under her own power."
It was still inexcusable.

[Anonymous No.57140244]

>>57140104
G4TV had some good late night stuff back in the early 2000s like adult swim and Xplay.
alot of it i didnt care for, but there were a few gems i discovered there like Cowboy Bebop, Ghost in the Shell, Princess Mononoke.

[Anonymous No.57140263]

>>57140059
before my wife and I had kids we would do that every saturday. I’m the type that has to have a “thing” outside work. You do anything to scratch that bug?

[Anonymous No.57140264]

>>57135845
How many ozt is that roughly

[Anonymous No.57140275]

>>57140080
Yep, watched that shit with my little brother “late” on TOONAMI. Trigun, DBZ are CHOICE. still remember that killer intro song on Bebop

[Anonymous No.57140284]

>>57140244
If you want a great visual aid to the cultural rot of our day; look at old G4 versus that tragic reboot with ex-pornstar trannies and insane women.

[Anonymous No.57140287]

>>57135931
>germania kilo
My nigga

[Anonymous No.57140291]

>>57140169
My Dad vs Yours - Bellicose
good song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdZCRjJ6zn0

[Anonymous No.57140297]

>>57140275
I think it was TOONAMI before it became adult swim, Little robot guy in a spaceship with the anime line up

[Anonymous No.57140310]

Wait so what the fuck’s the point of investing in the stock market if gold has outperformed the S&P? Diversification? I have zero faith in anything save for what I can touch. All that shit coming out recently that you don’t even own the stock you’ve bought has furthered my distaste.

[Anonymous No.57140321]

>>57140297
Space Ghost
Super Milk Chan
I remember watching Space Ghost episode shorts that were like an sci-fi fantasy adult cartoon version of late night with Daivid Letterman

[Anonymous No.57140336]

>>57140321
Yeah I watched space ghost and had no clue what i was watching and yes i took as “Man, This is Adult”

[Anonymous No.57140351]

>>57140169
Alot of my friends parents are similar idk if its gen x or just the area we grew up in

>>57140263
Yea I treasure hunt PMs at work and old books and games on ebay and the occasional goodwill.

[Anonymous No.57140382]

>>57140310
>Wait so what the fuck’s the point of investing in the stock market if gold has outperformed the S&P?
It hasn't.
It has performed worse than the S&P by a long shot if you don't include dividends. If you add in divies, stocks do thousands of times better.

gold is one of the worst possible long term investments over the last 50 years. Silver is about the only thing you can find that actually performed much worse than gold. Both are easily beaten by the stock market.

[Anonymous No.57140438]

>>57140382
Stonks is literally a ponzi scheme and if you watch the performance until the final act you'll get a surprise ending that totally nobody could have expected.

[Anonymous No.57140453]

>>57140382
>Silver is about the only thing you can find that actually performed much worse than gold.
It's worth knowing however that people who pick their own stocks (/smg/, /cmmg/) tend to underperform the market and may often lose money over the same time period that people in index funds are making millions.

in that case stocks are a much worse investment than gold or silver, mostly because individual investors think they're brilliant and usually aren't, and individual stocks often suck ass even when the whole market goes up.

[Anonymous No.57140484]

>>57140438
whether true or not it has nothing to do with which investment is better over the past 50 years.

by the time the stock market goes to zero your metals will also be worthless. Their value derives from human productivity and the end of stocks or fiat will end human productivity potentially for decades or centuries.

[Anonymous No.57140529]

>>57140484
> your metals will also be worthless
Yeah, that's why so many banks have been backing up the truck and buying all the gold they can for the past decade. You totally sold me on buying vanguard index funds.

[Anonymous No.57140547]

>>57140529
banks aren't planning on the end of stocks or fiat, they won't survive that.

I'm not trying to convince you to do anything. I'm stating facts. You are free to ignore them. But anon asked why people invest in the stock markets if gold outperforms them. The simple answer is it doesn't. Not even close.

[Anonymous No.57140550]

>>57136129
Most of my gold is fractional, it’s easier to just DCA at the monthly coin show and grab whatever is reasonable. Some guys will definitely haggle as long as you’re not a dick about it

[Anonymous No.57140555]

>>57140310
>I have zero faith in anything save for what I can touch

This is the reason you buy precious metals and keep them yourself rather than store them somewhere else. Diversification is another reason of course.
Stacking silver or gold is mostly about a somewhat low risk and inflation proof investment, more so gold than silver. If you've got spare cash lying around and are happy for it to sit as gold for 20+ years then that's why you buy precious metals. You don't run the risk of your "safe" stock suddenly becoming worthless because the CEO diddled a kid or the government changed legislation that made them profitable. You don't run the risk if property values tanking or new tax laws making your investment a monthly loss. Precious metals are about protecting your money, not earning you money.

People talking about precious metals hitting the moon are idiots. IF society were to collapse, having shiny rocks won't save you and if anything will make you more of a target. Straight after a collapse and for quite a while afterwards things will be extremely chaotic. Resources, tools and experience will be most important. Silver coins won't help if you don't have food, clean water or a know how to treat a bleeding wound. Silver/gold would be for the stable period after the collapse, when large communities have formed and need a form of currency to trade resources.

It's all a meme. I personally stack because I like coins and think they're neat. Pic related is my commemorative stack, around 150 tr oz.

[Anonymous No.57140596]

>>57140547
>I'm stating facts.
Confirmed.
58% of my portfolio is stocks, and I've been quite happy with that over the years.
32% is the equity in the house.
Almost 4% is PMs, and I track everything quite meticulously.
Silver has been the worst performer, but I can't stop loving the stuff. I just have to temper my enthusiasm for it.
Gold is doing well, but not stocks-well.
Shoulda sold Rhodium at $30k.

[Anonymous No.57140611]

>>57140547
Every time the market has crashed I hear boomers screaming that their portfolio halved or their broker’s stop loss cost them thousands. Why the fuck do I risk that? It’s objectively a Ponzi. Ethically, why should I sell my soul for Moderna stock?

[Anonymous No.57140634]

>>57140555
> IF society were to collapse, having shiny rocks won't save you
and then
>will make you more of a target.
They wont save you but everybody wants it! hmmm

>Resources, tools and experience will be most important.
and them
> Silver coins won't help
I guess everyone will be laboring for free and there will be no division of labor, everyone will resort to inneficient barter and spend all day trying yo exchange what they have for what someone else has that they want but try to find that thing they want by finding someone who has and seeing if they will trade what they have for what the other person wants so you can trade that for what you want.

> you don't have food, clean water
Spent all my money on silver and forgot to stack food and water bros!

> how to treat a bleeding wound.
Where am i going to find a rocket scientist?

> It's all a meme.
Yeah everything you just wrote is a fucking meme

[Anonymous No.57140653]

>>57140611
>I'm not trying to convince you to do anything.
Do what you like bro. It's none of my business.

[Anonymous No.57140690]

>>57140634
Barter only exists in cases of surplus.
Human history isn't well stocked with such cases

There is a preservation and collection bias favoring societies with surpluses, but not because they were the norm. Only because other groups left no sign of their existence

[Anonymous No.57140698]

>>57135832
>Fractionals! Edition.
smoll nuggs reporting in

[Anonymous No.57140716]

>>57140611
lol. why do your friends invest in mutual funds? Index funds are less retarded but seem to be unknown in muttland.

[Anonymous No.57140732]

>>57140596
> 58% of my portfolio is stocks, and I've been quite happy with that over the years.
> 32% is the equity in the house.
You're going to lose all that (The Great Taking). The only thing you'll get to keep is your metals. Your paper gains will be just that. But you won't be alone! Most people will be just like you, except they won't have any metals at all.

[Anonymous No.57140773]

>>57140732
>you'll get to keep is your metals
That's why I have some - just in case.
But I cannot take the panic-stricken hyperbole from a kiddie Anime poster seriously.

[Anonymous No.57140782]

>>57140634
There are easier ways to say you've never studied any part of human history. What do people grab when there's a natural disasters or conflict? Food, water, clothing, blankets. They bury their valuables so they can come back to them, but you don't want to be laden down with them, which is why you get pic related all over Europe.

> I guess everyone will be laboring for free
Paid labour happens when you have established communities with stable resources. Until then you're getting paid in water, food, shelter and safety. Your work you eat. You're confusing the period of stability with the period directly after the collapse. Stability can take decades.

> Spent all my money on silver and forgot to stack food and water bros!
Enough food to survive for months during the chaos? Somewhere safe to grow food? The knowledge to grow food? The knowledge to survive through winter? Precious metals won't help you.

Believe what you want, but if you're stacking for an eventual collapse you're an idiot.

[Anonymous No.57140809]

>>57140782
ahh fuck this is bob?
goodbye

[Anonymous No.57140810]

>>57135832
What's the best dealer for gold and silver out of the sites listed (or just in general)? First time here.

[Anonymous No.57140833]

>>57140810
Try the "Dealers" tab in this spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11oZ4X8Gkgv3oGd_BunwFAHRhS92cfocIcmHzVK1D5s4

[Anonymous No.57140887]

>>57140782
>Somewhere safe to grow food? The knowledge to grow food?
Even people that spent their entire lives growing food usually starved to death.

It's like nobody pays any attention to the history they fantasize about returning to

[Anonymous No.57140901]

>>57140782
I think any collapse won’t get to mad max levels, it will be somewhere between 08 and weimar with more societal unrest and crime. What you’re describing is more like what would happen after a massive CME or something.

And if there was a massive financial breakdown gold and silver could still be quite useful

[Anonymous No.57140989]

>>57140901
Most likely scenario is one of the superpowers going full SPQR and taking half the world playing to their fiat with it. Slow burn into or out of a Weimar. Hmm.

I think we have enough history and current case studies to say that PMs are a good hedge regardless of how it plays out but are currently severely undervalued due to said superpowers printing debt tickets. Hmm.

[Anonymous No.57141002]

>>57140901
>And if there was a massive financial breakdown gold and silver could still be quite useful
"They" control the market and our entire financial system, so they wouldn't allow any sort of financial collapse that wouldn't benefit them in some way. Print more money, introduce new laws, assassinate people, create new wars and all sorts of things they've done in the past. The only sort of collapse we'll have is one they've planned. As such, we won't get one where "silver goes to the moon". We'll just get increasing costs, rising prices and the devaluation of FIAT which was my original point. Precious metals, specifically gold, are a "safe" inflation proof investment; that's all.

>>57140887
You need a community to survive which won't happen in this current globalist world unless you're in the middle of nowhere in Canada or Russia and then your biggest enemy is winter.

>>57140809
Who's Bob? I've only been on PMG for a few months.

[Anonymous No.57141016]

>>57140773
It's not panic on my part. It's just a warning of a very obvious danger, much like I told people not to take poison injection. But of course they didn't listen. Now they have to live with the consequences, if they manage to live at all.

[Anonymous No.57141021]

>>57140901
>>57140989
Yes, Americans are famous for remaining calm and reasonable when everything goes to shit.

[Anonymous No.57141048]

>>57141002
>"They" control the market and our entire financial system
no matter your angle of attack, I remain highly motivated.

[Anonymous No.57141055]

>>57141021
Outside of the bank runs on Black Friday, things were pretty calm and not much changed other than the price of labor tanking below pre-industrial wages. Shit, the US has collapsed 3 or 4 times and most people are so isolated that they barely notice.

[Anonymous No.57141088]

>>57141055
The only reason we're not killing people right now is half the population is on welfare. End that right now and there will be world war within the month

[Anonymous No.57141092]

>>57141048
?
I'm not saying not to stack silver friend, even showed some of my stack. Stack silver because it's fun, because shiny coins are fun and because gold is a good and "safe" hedge against inflation. Stacking because you think you'll live like a king if society collapses is idiotic.

[Anonymous No.57141148]

>>57141002
>Who's Bob?
A nemesis of science, exploration and industry, with unfathomable power.
An international man of mystery
A globetrotting adventurer, treasure hunter, and all around ladies man
A father, a husband, a true patriarch
Women just want him
Men want to *be* him
A human self-made legend

[Anonymous No.57141199]

>>57141088
No government would survive it though and once trust and control of government is lost they are finished, once trust and confidence is gone which is already happening they wont be able to con anyone onto their communist banker digital currency which they have been trialling in other Countries and has already been rejected there.

Plus this whole new world order delusion only had a chance of working if they got full control of every government in the world and right now Russia, China are taking half the worlds population away from this stupidity in the opposite direction to a proper Gold backed currency system so all of this shit is dead on arrival, its just a matter of stacking up with real money and watching as all the wealth transfers over to us.

[Anonymous No.57141209]

>>57141148
>Makes more money before 8am on any given day than most men earn in ten years

[Anonymous No.57141234]

>>57141148
Bob is a faggot who doxes himself on the daily, contradicts his statements in every sentence, and shits up every thread with 90 spam post.
P.S. look at this creepy baby

[Anonymous No.57141250]

>>57136830
Look at how triggered the paid Apmex shill gets.

Apmex tongue my anus.

[Anonymous No.57141258]

>>57141234
this image is not kektop

[Anonymous No.57141320]

What ratio of your net worth is in fiat versus metals (using today's spot price)? I'd guess I'm about 1:3.

[Anonymous No.57141352]

>>57141002
>Who's Bob?
Bob is a guy that left his favorite wool cap at the steakhouse last night and when he went back for it the busser said she never saw it but he really suspects she might have snagged it or tossed it in the trash and just didn't want to tell him.

[Anonymous No.57141355]

>>57141320
Where did the hell did i put my tan lotion?

[Anonymous No.57141362]

>>57141320
Well, I am a millionaire of course. I don’t have too much on hand. I do have billions of ounces of silver under my feet though. I guess you can could say it’s 99% of my wealth, It’s just not worth getting to right now!
I suspect if silver ever really did moon I’d be a billionaire over night.

[Anonymous No.57141474]

>>57141362
I have at best 200k ounces of silver under my house. I have proven 100k ounces.

they're at a depth of 675-900 feet. Water is at 50 feet. Bedrock is at 650 feet.

this is all public record, every house on my street has been drilled and sampled for gold and silver several times. It's there. It's not worth going after. Especially since there's literally a billion dollars worth of houses sitting on top of it.

[Anonymous No.57141513]

I have 500$ to spare what should I buy?

[Anonymous No.57141514]

>>57141362
between 1900 and 1914 there were several attempts made to mine the silver under my house. Shafts were sunk, ore was contacted. Several people died. End of the day nothing ever came of it. The ground was unstable, and you had to get through almost 700 feet of loose overburden, pumping enormous amounts of water out the whole time. Every now and then one of those shafts opens up and a house or a garage or a person falls in. My town is swiss cheese, most of the mines under the town were never recorded.

the ore sits right where it always was, it's too hard to get to. Not worth the bother.

[Anonymous No.57141516]

>>57141474

[Anonymous No.57141522]

>>57141320
I own a few properties here containing the equivalent of the annual silver output of Mexico.
I just collect coins I like and find interesting. I’d show you some, but I’d have to dig em’ out.
I suppose if silver ever really did moon I’d be a millionaire over night.

[Anonymous No.57141530]

>>57141474

[Anonymous No.57141534]

I just an oro 20 peso after maybe half a bottle of wine. One of those '59 uncirculated ones from liberty. I consulted the cards and they came up all hearts so I went with it. We celebrate with potato soup eventually.

[Anonymous No.57141560]

>>57141516
>>57141522
>>57141530
>The district is credited with producing over 2.9 million troy ounces of gold, 240 million troy ounces of silver, 1 million short tons of lead, 785 thousand short tons of zinc (discovered in 1911[35]), and 53 thousand short tons of copper.[36]

[Anonymous No.57141566]

>>57141560
please stop pasting wikipedia article sentences in the /pmg/ thread

[Anonymous No.57141567]

>>57141560
> Mexico Silver Production data is updated yearly, averaging 2,760.000 Metric Ton from Dec 1986 to 2022, with 37 observations. The data reached an all-time high of 6,300.000 Metric Ton in 2022 and a record low of 2,098.000 Metric Ton in 1992.
Publically available information, why would I lie?

[Anonymous No.57141576]

>>57141567
do you own three silver mines in mexico, and is your town and house built literally on top of one?

[Anonymous No.57141587]

>>57139908
My grandad was exactly like this. He came to the uk and worked his ass off and his children are the most horrible people I've ever met. some of my cousins tried selling his belongings and they still say that our grandad left them nothing.

gen z are horrible people. non of them know how to place their ego aside and listen to the olde generation.

[Anonymous No.57141602]

>>57140059
I'm a bit younger but I still have the urge to do this. just you describing it is giving me a hit of nostalgia. My uncle and me used to do this every weekend growing up.

[Anonymous No.57141605]

You guys. The government really tried to psyop us on all fronts
>covid came from a bat government lie
>it's in the money
Can THEY just not help themselves?

[Anonymous No.57141606]

>>57141560
>The Bob is credited with producing over 2.9 million posts, 240 million shit posts, 1 million troll posts, 785 thousand fudd posts(discovered in 2011[35]), and 53 thousand tax law posts.[36]

[Anonymous No.57141636]

>>57141602
It was a good time, I just don't have the time, energy, or storage space and it's not as fun doing it by yourself, it feels weird and lonely not doing it with my dad.

[Anonymous No.57141640]

>>57135832
So let me get this straight. I buy at $20/oz back in 2020. That same $20 has been inflated to $24. If I sold now at spot...I've broke even in terms of buying power...but now I have to pay 15% capital gains tax on what they inflated to begin with. I already paid tax on the money I bought the silver with back in 2020. This is such bullshit.

[Anonymous No.57141661]

>>57141606
and he stopped well before he ran out. Because he flooded the market and the price of shit posts and troll posts dropped by over 80%.

But if you buy a house in Leadville you too can be a millionaire, and you too can have several tons of silver under your feet that simply aren't worth mining.

if that's too pricy you can still pick up some of the greatest former silver mines in the world for less than a used honda, and I guaranfuckingtee they have a ton or two of silver still in them. There might even be that much sitting out in the dumps.

[Anonymous No.57141679]

>>57141640
>now I have to pay 15% capital gains tax on what they inflated to begin with.
over 30% currently.

silver is considered a collectible by the IRS. Much higher taxes than on investments.

[Anonymous No.57141692]

>>57141640
>if I sold
i'm not following. why would you sell?

[Anonymous No.57141695]

>>57140782
>What do people grab when there's a natural disasters or conflict? Food, water, clothing, blankets.
And whatever money/wealth they are comfortable carrying. Through WW2 the practice of sewing coins, jewelry and precious gems into the clothing worn while fleeing was extremely widespread when the individuals expected they wouldn't be able to return soon, if ever. No they ain't packing out their bulky sterling silver table services, those got buried or hidden, but whenever feasible they absolutely would have carried whatever wealth they could.

>They bury their valuables so they can come back to them, but you don't want to be laden down with them, which is why you get pic related all over Europe.

Your pic related is from California, and was buried because the rancher didn't trust banks. Most caches/hoards found today weren't buried because of an impending collapse or invasion, they were just a convenient way to keep money safe. It's stupid to categorically claim that people would have buried their wealth prior to fleeing natural disasters or conflict and only attended to the immediate physiological needs in Maslow's hierarchy. Refugees with money fare better than the idiots who buried everything but some MREs, a blanket and some clothes.

[Anonymous No.57141702]

>>57141355
>>57141362
>>57141522
Meds. Now.

[Anonymous No.57141703]

>>57140555
>around 150 tr oz.
checked
is that weight with or without all the cardboard?

[Anonymous No.57141747]

>>57141692
I'm just coping with the fact that the fed taxes inflated "gains".

[Anonymous No.57141749]

[Anonymous No.57141750]

>>57140555
>People talking about precious metals hitting the moon are idiots. IF society were to collapse, having shiny rocks won't save you and if anything will make you more of a target.

Imagine having this much faith in fiat

[Anonymous No.57141755]

>>57141702
You might find some of my properties in the history books, if you ever bothered to read one. It was actually scheduled to be traded for active opportunity land swaps under the reverse lend lease program in 40’s. Really interesting stuff if you have a mind for it, which obviously you don’t.

[Anonymous No.57141761]

>>57141640
Also since you probably didn't save receipts of your purchases and have no cost basis, there's a solid chance they're going to try to tax the entire sale at 30% instead of just your profits.

so you could end up paying almost 200% in taxes and giving every single cent of profit to the IRS and then paying them a huge fee for the privilege.

[Anonymous No.57141794]

>>57141761
Bruh is this amateur hour? I always save my receipts

[Anonymous No.57141828]

>>57141794
me too.

I've seen a lot of people here that avoid any sort of paper trail which I assume means cash purchases and no receipts.

[Anonymous No.57141862]

Most people here inherited their stacks.
No need to collect receipts, hands are already to full when holding on to the memories of their precious loved ones

[Anonymous No.57141864]

>>57141749
Extremely bullish for silver desu

[Anonymous No.57141884]

>>57141862
Yep, the IRS double rapes those people. You get the inheritance tax on top of the full cap gains on collectibles at fair market value at the time of the death of your dearly departed loved one.

[Anonymous No.57141979]

>>57141884
I had a chat with an IRS agent at the bar the other day. They really aren’t bad folks, at least this guy seemed pretty cool.
I asked him “How do you deal with all the haters?” jokingly.
He turned around quick, looked me straight in the eyes and said “With love”.
We both had a good laugh at that one.
Ended up getting into a bar fight over what I thought was someone trying to pass my lucky wooden nickel into the pool table.
The guy had my the whole way. They are people too, sometimes they’re badass to boot.

[Anonymous No.57142014]

>>57141979
kek
pretty good bobposting today

[Anonymous No.57142031]

Test

[Anonymous No.57142054]

Does anyone here know what happened to Kitco

[Anonymous No.57142058]

>>57142031
You’ve all had great fun switching IPs and pretending to be me today. Hey, I really don’t mind it.
They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so i guess I should thank you retards.

[Anonymous No.57142068]

>>57142054
hacked in mid-december

[Anonymous No.57142075]

>>57141636
this is why you should have a kid. You can teach them and bring them along.

I would do it but I've not got a wife/gf

[Anonymous No.57142095]

>>57142058
What

[Anonymous No.57142106]

>>57142075
Eh, I've got two ex-wives, not sure if I'm willing to try out for a third.

[Anonymous No.57142111]

>>57142095
Bob's drunk again. Ignore him and maybe he'll go away

[Anonymous No.57142129]

>>57141640
sorry that you had to learn the hard way anon,thats the part no ever brings up in these threads ,how much they're pms need to to go to make it beat inflation to make pms a valuable hedge compared to keeping cash, I bought my 1 oz gold back in 2022 for 1765,basicaly a 3% premium from spot ,if i needed to sell now id get 2050 ,but in terms of inflation my $1765 would be $1850 ,so my gold has beat inflation to a decent degree compared to the generic silver i bought at $24.63 when spot was $19.34 the same year ,id have to sell at $28.87 just to make back the same value as my gold but most won't buy unless its $25 for generics, at this point you should just store it away and not think about for a few years and maybe it'll go up in that time or take a loss and sell and hopefully get some decent gold at a good price. Many will call me a divide and conquer fag but they're probably coping with something that doesn't beat inflation compared to gold so they have to justify themselves with the loss and lash out at anyone with a different opinion

[Anonymous No.57142131]

>>57142106
well you won't know if you give up. I think you should give it a go but be cautious af.

[Anonymous No.57142148]

is it better to purchase a 10 gram bar now or wait in 3 months and purchase an oz bar? and should I keep cycling this?

[Anonymous No.57142198]

>>57142129
you're ignoring taxes if you're in the US. If you sold your gold right now, every cent you made would go to federal taxes. So you would've lost to inflation. You could have just as well kept cash since at least you aren't taxed when you spend that.

gold will beat inflation and taxes over longer periods of time though.

[Anonymous No.57142256]

>>57142148
Depending on how much you care about premiums you can either save for cheaper cost per ounce or enjoy greater divisibility and DCA.

I really don’t care that I’m spending 200$ more per ounce buying a 1/4 oz every month versus waiting for 120 fucking days. It keeps me focused and is a monthly reminder of what my goals are; defeating Israel.

[Anonymous No.57142258]

>>57142198
nigga a private transaction between cash is not that hard, no bullshit taxes or anything. And my point still stands that gold leads better against inflation compared to silver that stays in the 23 to 25 dollar range and crabs for the next few years, I hate it but ive learned my lesson

[Anonymous No.57142286]

>>57142111
Wouldn’t be New Year’s Eve without a hooch and a little hoochy coochy, women were hitting on me pretty hard last night. I am gentleman so of course I am saving my kiss.
>>57142258
And whek you go to spend it? The Patriot Act has required even all cash large purchase get reported. Good luck buying anything with my buddy tracking you down. If you we’re smart, I suppose thats a big IF, you’d run a little business out of your home and get smart on how you deal with the tax man. I dont suspect you will, you guys have been ignoring good advice for years.

[Anonymous No.57142301]

Hell its a sport for you guys! Putting your fingers in your ears.

[Anonymous No.57142303]

>>57142286
ooohhh the glowies are out to get me

[Anonymous No.57142304]

>>57142258
>I hate it but ive learned my lesson
yep, and I'm giving you the next lesson for free. One most here won't learn for decades.

cash transactions and evading taxes is still possible, but it gets harder to do every year and eventually will be impossible. When that happens, you'll find the break-even went from a couple years on gold or a couple decades on silver to well over a decade on gold and a lifetime for silver.

because for every dollar of inflation the metal gains, the IRS takes 30 cents. And at that rate it gets pretty difficult to catch up.

[Anonymous No.57142345]

>>57142286
>women were hitting on me pretty hard last night
It's hard goddamn work being brutally attractive, but then you go throwing money around like it's dirty napkins and those poor girls don't stand a chance.

sorry they stole your hat though. That's rough buddy.

[Anonymous No.57142371]

>>57141864
no, it's not

[Anonymous No.57142390]

>>57141355
I've recently experienced a nautical disaster. all was lost.
maybe i can trade my stainless steel soup spoons for a DOQA?

[Anonymous No.57142399]

>>57142131
True, finding the right one is a pain in the ass though

>>57142286
>scary, all knowing, government tax law post 53,001

[Anonymous No.57142407]

>>57142304
so what should I do about it?

Also the avoiding taxes what are some methods? And should I ask my employer to pay me in gold only?

[Anonymous No.57142410]

>>57142399
I suppose matters of fact that don’t settle well with your version of reality are uncomfortable. I’m just telling you what you can expect.
Fine, I’ll shut up.

[Anonymous No.57142418]

>>57142407
That’s been tried before and didn’t work out well for those involved.

[Anonymous No.57142429]

>>57142390
It’s funny, that joke gets passed around a lot. Its practically an admission of guilt. Good luck smirking like a retard while saying that before a federal judge.

[Anonymous No.57142438]

>>57142303
They’re on this general right now, I suspect there are several ongoing federal investigations that you are involving yourself in by merely posting here.

[Anonymous No.57142445]

>>57142438
The US federal government is an openly illegitimate tyranny. Anybody willing to enforce their agenda should be willing to take a bullet for it, no?

[Anonymous No.57142448]

>>57142407
>Render to Caesar the things that are Caesar's
t. some sand hippie

[Anonymous No.57142469]

>>57142445
no. America is not an tranny. Just cause the current administration sold us down the river; just back in 1965, to the global hedgemony. Does not mean the people of today, make a ballot initiative to deport all illegal migrants since 2020. As well as reastablishing a silver currency, ending the military industrial complex.
>p.s. military industrial complex was formed back in 1916 when we exchanged our silver currency to make bullets for WW! prep.

[Anonymous No.57142492]

>>57136166
So?

[Anonymous No.57142495]

>>57142301
I like to put my fingers on the stack. Also Does anyone else just pull out their rounds/coins and just listen to the clinking sound of coins stacking? I gave up the Trading card games and TableTop miniatures to start doing this and am getting the same rewarding feeling with the addition of being a responsible man who will provide for a future family.

[Anonymous No.57142498]

>>57142410
My reality is the government doesn't have the means to track everything reported to them much less private transactions between people that aren't reported. You won't shut up because you are starved for attention and this is all you have. Despite all your posts about how great your life is and all the money you supposedly have you spend hours here making blog posts about tax law and un subtle insults about how no one here is smart or rich enough to follow your advice while claiming we should be following your advice.

[Anonymous No.57142503]

>>57142445
What, because of the news. I thought you guys didn’t trust the news. But your always here posting it when it confirms your beliefs. Radical.

[Anonymous No.57142502]

>>57142469
>>p.s. military industrial complex was formed back in 1916 when we exchanged our silver currency to make bullets for WW! prep.

What a coincidence, just a few years after the >Federal Reserve was created
Owen incorporated modifications by Woodrow Wilson and allowed for a regional Federal Reserve System, operating under a supervisory board in Washington, D.C. Congress approved the Act, and President Wilson signed it into law on December 23, 1913.

[Anonymous No.57142515]

>>57142503
>because of the news
No, but it's cool how you then fought an entire strawman based on your assumption. Simple, observable reality without the belief in the news propaganda

[Anonymous No.57142522]

>>57142498
> no one here is smart or rich enough to follow your advice
I’ll always stand by that, you’re welcome to prove me wrong, No one has ever proved me wrong to date. Not feeling too longwinded today, just enjoying you guy’s company.

[Anonymous No.57142523]

>>57142492
I think our fren was letting us know that it would be best to buy average bulk and wait for a hard quarterly dip to scoop collection items.
>I'm gonna collect my birthyear coinage and start stacking dragon kilo's as the base economy of my stack.
>I'm a tourist from smg

[Anonymous No.57142531]

>>57142515
Only time a fought a strawman is when he was dumping baling wares on the edge of my property, son.
Don’t believe me, check the news!

[Anonymous No.57142536]

>>57142531
Which news should I go to for opinions that match my statement that the US federal government is openly tyrannical? Expand my horizons

[Anonymous No.57142539]

>>57142502
I got some pretty good copypasta for you about american banking/political/economical integrated history. if you want it!
>The Panicof 1819 was caused by the rapid resurgence of the European economy after the Napoleonic Wars, where improved agriculture caused the prices of American goods to drop, and a scarcity of specie due to unrest in the Spanish American colonies. The situation was exacerbated by the B.U.S. under Bank President William Jones through fraud and the rapid emission of paper money. He eventually began to call in loans, but nonetheless was removed by the Bank's directors. Langdon Cheves, who replaced Jones as president, worsened the situation by reducing the Bank's liabilities by more than half, lessening the value of Bank notes, and more than tripling the Bank's specie held in reserve. As a result, the prices of American goods abroad collapsed. This led to the failure of state banks and the collapse of businesses, turning what could have been a brief recession into a prolonged depression. Financial writer William M. Gouge wrote that "the Bank was saved and the people were ruined".

[Anonymous No.57142554]

alright more nice rms pls

[Anonymous No.57142556]

>>57142539
If you have any book recommendations I'd go with those, thank you!

[Anonymous No.57142558]

>>57142536
> Which news should I go to for opinions that match my statement
I don’t usually seek news that matches my opinion. What would be the point?
Thats what a lot folks around here do and I’ve warned against it.

[Anonymous No.57142574]

>>57142539
Lassen?
This guys got the biggest balls out of all you guys. Saw you were on cmg and figured you’d show up anytime.

[Anonymous No.57142601]

>>57142429
>anon go before a federal judge.
>because he has a few rolls of copper pennies and a few ounces of Silver
lol ok.

[Anonymous No.57142633]

>>57142574
nah. I am cannabro; from /smg/. I was a tourist/lurker for a couple months and decided to start sharing my stacking journey from the beginning. Using this board as an open journal/thoughtboard for others to use and try.
>>57142556
No real books from the library; more peer reviewed journals and academic studies, constitutional library has a treasure trove of info; it's not a legit library, it is case studies done on guiding economics and political actions

[Anonymous No.57142649]

>>57142601
lol, lmao

[Anonymous No.57142655]

>>57136129
smaller

[Anonymous No.57142659]

>>57142558
Baggie?

[Anonymous No.57142696]

Happy New Year /pmg/!

[Anonymous No.57142702]

>>57140438
A lot of the high profile growth stocks are effectively ponzi schemes; however some businesses make money and by owning a small share of the business you can earn a small share of that profit. Although, of course, money printing has fucked either valuations across the board.

[Anonymous No.57142703]

>>57142696
*New Years eve

[Anonymous No.57142732]

>>57142696
whoa, nice Porter-Bone

[Anonymous No.57142737]

>>57141320
90% is my stack, and half the rest is in actual cash on hand. I don't like leaving a lot in the bank, but there's a bunch sitting in there right now, because I haven't bought anything in several months (waiting for another dip).

[Anonymous No.57142738]

>>57142522
Yea let me get right on that, you got a number I can fax you my bank statements, etc.

[Anonymous No.57142741]

>>57142649
i know. but occasionally i need to lie to myself just to feel ok.

[Anonymous No.57142798]

>>57142737
You know the bank can refuse to give you your stack back; in the event of a bank run. Just buy a big ass safe that would take three people and a dolly to move.

[Anonymous No.57142803]

>>57142732
There wasn't any bone in it.

[Anonymous No.57142821]

>>57142702
What about owning a private minting company. People can send you designs to mint for their collections. Charge a nice premium to do so; whilst getting tax advantages/write offs on the silver you buy to produce to rounds/bars/bullions to the 3rd party market. Then just hide your stack in your business so when it is time to go after you; sorry mr tax man I paid my dues in the business where the assets are held. And since your assets are precious metals, you can take that to any international country and get credit through our business account, backed by the precious metals your 'company' (you) produce. This is what I have been contemplating and looking to attempt the coming year.

[Anonymous No.57143051]

>>57142821
this is perfectly legal and actually how rich people operate. You're not hiding anything, you're converting profits to legal capital purchases, and growing your equity in the company instead of
>1. Make money
>2. Pay yourself money
>3. Pay taxes on money
>4. Buy silver
>5. Pay taxes on silver
>6. Sell silver
>7. Pay taxes on silver

why pay taxes on the same money 3 times when it's perfectly legal for the business to own it tax free and you can then borrow against it and write off the interest? Works with anything, not just silver.

[Anonymous No.57143103]

>>57143051
I already have the company filed in both fed and state levels. Have to get county business tax license; but I believe this is the start of my empire! I just need to get reintegrated in FOREX before I go looking to hit the international market with the silver.

[Anonymous No.57143115]

>>57143103
be aware in the US you might get taxed on cap gains for inventory and equipment, and you still need enough income to service the loans. Also business loans can't be used for personal expenses if you're writing off the interest,

but yeah, as tax shelters go a business is spectacular. It's the reason all rich people own businesses. Some of them started businesses and got rich, but most of them got rich and then made businesses to protect their wealth from taxes.

[Anonymous No.57143141]

>>57143115
I am the former. Starting a business to get rich. The cap gains will be taxed but that is why the firm will reinvest in treasury bonds to avoid the taxes. when the treasury bonds expire; it is off the silver store to smelt and make bullions. thus an expenditure to write off. I will need an acountant to help heep all this organized but I am confident I can turn a 0 into a 1

[Anonymous No.57143164]

>>57143115
what about a home office?
if you run your business out of your home?
i suppose you cant just use the whole house/mortgage as a tax write off for business. but can you get any credit for it?

[Anonymous No.57143170]

>>57143141
>I will need an acountant to help heep all this organized
after a year or two you'll be able to do it yourself. Most business owners fall into it pretty naturally even if nobody explains it to them.
>but I am confident I can turn a 0 into a 1
If you synthesized the "Buy, Borrow, Die" strategy on your own you should easily turn a profit.

[Anonymous No.57143172]

>>57142741
okay!
>Under its charter, the bank had a capital limit of $35 million, $7.5 million of which represented the government-owned share. It was required to remit a "bonus" payment of $1.5 million, payable in three installments,[4] to the government for the privilege of using the public funds, interest free, in its private banking ventures.[90] The institution was answerable for its performance to the U.S. Treasury and Congress[3] and subject to Treasury Department inspection.[4]

>By the Mint Act, the Mint was to be situated at the seat of government of the United States. The five original officers of the U.S. Mint were a Director, an Assayer, a Chief Coiner, an Engraver, and a Treasurer (not the same as the Secretary of the Treasury). The Act allowed that one person could perform the functions of Chief Coiner and Engraver. The Assayer, Chief Coiner and Treasurer were required to post a $10,000 bond with the Secretary of the Treasury.

>Many people demanded more limited Jeffersonian government, especially after revelations of fraud within the Bank and its attempts to influence elections.

[Anonymous No.57143188]

>>57143164
Yep. Mortgage principle isn't allowed, but interest and insurance and utilities are. A portion of them anyways.

needs to be a serious business, and it needs to turn a profit most years, but I've been writing off a home office for 25 years now without a problem. Knock on wood.

[Anonymous No.57143192]

>>57143170
>"Buy, Borrow, Die" strategy
that is the american economy under our current system. The credit system is fucked and can confidently say I have yet to get a credit card. Living without any debt/interest is pretty nice.

[Anonymous No.57143212]

>>57143164
so long as your county/city/municpaility doesn't have explicit zoning laws you should be good. Otherwise, check your zoning laws. If the house is not your priomary residence and you are leasing the property to your business through a property manager; of course you can get credit!

[Anonymous No.57143233]

>>57135832
Mylar
God...buy Mylar to store your coins
Or a non acidic plastic from China

[Anonymous No.57143244]

>>57143164
You can do a home office whether you rent or own the home. How it works is you measure the square footage of the home, and then the footage of your office. The office must be used ONLY for business. Then you take that percentage of the square footage and deduct it from the costs of the home as a business expense.

the US has another rule regarding the storage of samples or inventory which is even more generous since it allows you to write off a room that's not used solely for business if you store inventory there.

[Anonymous No.57143291]

>>57143233
>non acidic plastic
I store my coins in ziploc bags. They are polyethylene plastic

[Anonymous No.57143299]

>>57143244
God, I love America

[Anonymous No.57143313]

>>57143299
c'mon man, I love Klein bottles. Mobius strips. Tesseracts. US business tax laws. All non-orientable and nonsensical shapes.

[Anonymous No.57143372]

>>57143164
It's not a huge deduction. I think my housing expenses counting mortgage and insurance and utilities run about $24k USD/year. My home office deduction is only about $5k per year. So not a lot. My businesses gross about a million a year, so $5k is basically nothing compared to payroll and vehicles and capital expenses and depreciation and interest and such. But it does help a little.

[Anonymous No.57143385]

>>57143372
whats your business?

[Anonymous No.57143412]

>>57143385
Metals mining contractor.

[Anonymous No.57143572]

>>57142407
>so what should I do about it?
I can't legally or ethically answer that for you. If you're worried about the laws, ask an accountant. If you're worried about the returns, ask a financial advisor.

I'm not going to tell you to start a business that allows you to stack metals tax-free, but if I did I'd recommend audited storage, or recycling companies, or mints, or refineries, or mining, or jewelry making, or pouring art bars for resale.

but that's a shitload of work to avoid some tax laws that aren't even being enforced yet and may never be. Personally I would just wait, and not sell. What are you selling for anyways? Precious metals are a long game.

[Anonymous No.57143604]

>>57143412
When you first started; what was the seed money needed? I figure for that type of operation it could be bootstrapped for 3k. What are the average market for your contracts? government or non-government org?

[Anonymous No.57143605]

>>57142649
oi bruv do have a loicense to do 600 dollars in financial transackies per year?

[Anonymous No.57143610]

>>57142696
nice cutlery. Just had a steak and salmon myself. I normally don't get expensive stuff but did today because NYE.

[Anonymous No.57143619]

>>57143605
>pic related

[Anonymous No.57143633]

>>57143604
>When you first started; what was the seed money needed?
I bought an existing business by working one year for free. The former owner trained me, I sent her the entire gross from the company that year. $75k worth. It was a tiny company. My wife worked full time so I could work for free and pay for the biz.
>I figure for that type of operation it could be bootstrapped for 3k.
less than that. I could start it off one winning bid which I'd then borrow against to start work. So basically nothing.
>What are the average market for your contracts?
Freeport, Newmont, Grupo Mexico/Asarco, Jacobs, Thyssen, Anglo Gold Ashanti, EPA, BLM, USFS, USBoR, DoD, shitloads of tiny mining companies nobody has ever heard of.
>government or non-government org?
whoever needs some work done. Lately we've been doing about 50/50 private/public

[Anonymous No.57143653]

>>57143619
people believe jewish lies for reasons beyond my comprehension. At work I said off hand "inflation is killing me" and my manager said "don't you know that inflation is basically a myth? They talked about it in Time magazine. It said grocery store owners are all a bunch of rich guys that don't want to sell you cheap food".

Makes me kek but fear for those that don't prepare because the greedy grocery merchant meme that jews spread hides the effects of inflation until you hit hyper inflation and by that time its already too late to prepare.

[Anonymous No.57143654]

Happy new year.

[Anonymous No.57143669]

>>57143633
Thank you for being so forthcoming. Interesting you were able to buy an existing corp. I've been looking into this idea as well; but then I figure why not just bootstrap it myself. I only have 2 companies; both with less than 50k revenue. However, I am living in these businesses, but they are back burner businesses; existing with no maintenance required. That is why smelting/minting seems to good to be true as a business model, but I am in the U.S south where the market is pretty strong.

[Anonymous No.57143687]

>>57143669
I got a few valuable contracts with the business, but most of her work was shit which I dumped as soon as the company was mine.

What I actually paid for was the technical training she provided on all aspects of the biz. It was easily worth the money. The second year I owned it I took it from $75k/year to $750. Just scaling.

[Anonymous No.57143728]

>>57143687
Congratulations!!!
>Here is a reaction for when metals start to surge

[Anonymous No.57143735]

>>57143654
Happy New Year!

[Anonymous No.57143758]

>>57143728
thanks!

when I started in the biz, silver was $5 and gold was $280.
As far as I'm concerned they've already mooned and are going to keep right on mooning.

[Anonymous No.57143934]

any bakers?

[Anonymous No.57143954]

>>57143934
sure, what do you want for a pic?

[Anonymous No.57143958]

>>57143758
>Hi James, how have you been?
top of keks

[Bob No.57143991]

>>57143934
Thread

>>57143985
>>57143985
>>57143985

[Anonymous No.57144005]

>>57143934
yeah but pretty basic. cookies, pumpkin / banana bread / basic breads / pizzer

[Anonymous No.57144021]

Boba esponga

[Anonymous No.57144029]

Happy new year frens.
>captcha opdnnr ?

[Bob No.57144053]

>>57143934
lociento mucho, onions borracho

>>57144038
>>57144038
>>57144038

[Anonymous No.57145037]

should I one bar everymonth? or should I purchase one oz bar ever three months?

[Anonymous No.57145238]

>>57140172
It's something fiat faggots will never understand. The heavier our bags become, our happiness increases.