/pmg/ - Precious Metals General

[Anonymous No.57066635]

Winter solstice substance usage edition.

>Why Gold?
https://youtu.be/i3S4rl6ehiI
https://youtu.be/gksenA5Al_A
https://youtu.be/FI7NnOg2rxo

>Huge deficits in minerals such as silver by 2050 inevitable
https://youtu.be/iibsrDXdEos

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/ (US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/
https://www.ngccoin.com/price-guide/world/

>News and graphs
https://numismag.com/en/home-en/
https://silverseek.com/
https://www.silverdoctors.com/
https://www.mining.com/
https://silverbacksnakes.io/finance/silver
https://www.gold.org/goldhub/data/gold-reserves-by-country
https://wtfhappenedin1971.com/

>Compare
https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)

>Resources
https://www.jmbullion.com/ultimate-guide-to-90-silver-coins/
https://kevinsworkbench.com/junksilverguide/
https://www.coinflation.com/
http://coinapps.com/
https://erikasgrig.com/calculators/rpi-calculator-inflation/
https://learn.apmex.com/buying-guide/buying-in-the-usa/
https://pastebin.com/5aLmWUUK

>Prospecting
https://youtu.be/ZCL6FKQZyoM
https://www.usgs.gov/programs/mineral-resources-program/science
https://www.mndm.gov.on.ca/en/news/mines-and-minerals
https://www.amazon.ca/Gold-Creeks-Ghostowns-British-Columbia/dp/088839988X

>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test
https://youtu.be/3mg9YcAShTo
https://youtu.be/NgSXg-WOEVY
https://youtu.be/2ymGAyKAg-k
https://www.fakebullion.com/index.php/resources/fake-bullion-database

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[Anonymous No.57066660]

[Anonymous No.57066667]

[Anonymous No.57066682]

Got my crusaders today.

[Anonymous No.57066685]

Merry New Years

[Anonymous No.57066710]

>>57066682
#metoo
>>57066685
seeing this makes me want to have the pirate coin be ultra high relief.

[Anonymous No.57066729]

>>57066635
For me, it's boiled steak. Boiled steak is genuinely the best way to eat steak. Much more chew and you actually feel like you've eaten something after. Also healthier and minimal mess because it's literally just water in a pot. No oil or grease. Fatty cuts like ribeye are best to boil - I've had less success with cheap steak. Pic related was OK but really needed some 'chup

[Anonymous No.57066799]

Thoughts?

https://coinchapter.com/digital-yuan-gold-transaction-china/

[Anonymous No.57066881]

>>57066729
>Boiled steak is genuinely the best way to eat steak

Bro, I'm too autistic to know whether you're serious or just funposting, please tell me you don't regularly boil ribeyes.

[Fullmetal No.57066926]

im posting the crusaders i got today, ik i posted last thread but they are bad ass

[Anonymous No.57067038]

>>57066635
HONK HONK

[Anonymous No.57067087]

Is it better to buy a 10oz bar of silver? It looks like you could save 5-10 dollars by doing so

[Anonymous No.57067102]

>>57066729
Any special water you recommend boiling steaks in?

[Anonymous No.57067291]

>>57066682
Me too! Thank you mint anon, they were worth the wait.

[Anonymous No.57067305]

>>57066881
in the US this is called a "pot roast," and it's popular boomer rations. Pretty tasty too.

[Anonymous No.57067360]

>>57066635
If anyone wants information about the petro-dollar and the thin air the USD is built on you should watch this
https://youtu.be/a_tO8yPlZ44?

[Anonymous No.57067607]

>>57067087
If you're just starting out, yes 10 oz bars are the best for that reason.

[Anonymous No.57067627]

>>57066729
you should be in jail

[Anonymous No.57067661]

>>57067083
>No one cares if you SELL fake coins on eBay
They definitely care, but law enforcement has been overwhelmed by the sheer volume of fakes coming from outside their jurisdiction and from untraceable accounts.

Since the cops can't do anything about it, the platforms and banks have ended up holding the bag for those fake coins. And they're doing something. Credit card companies are perfectly capable of either not paying a scammer, or clawing back payments from scammers. So are the platforms. This has resulted in the scammers very slowly bringing their listings into compliance with US law. Coins that were previously sold as real are now usually listed as fakes or reproductions somewhere in the text of the listing. Eventually they'll come into full compliance with US law, and each fake will come counterstamped with the word "COPY" on the face as law requires.

It's a mistake to think nobody cares. If a person is a US resident selling fake coins they're probably going to end up in jail or on probation for it. People outside the US are just more difficult for US cops to go after. So usually the banks and platforms zap those guys. Generally by not paying them or taking money out of their linked accounts.

[Anonymous No.57067682]

I'm looking for the oldest coin with the cheapest price. Any ideas?

[Anonymous No.57067690]

>mfw I also got my crusaders today
>mfw I also got DUBS baby

[Anonymous No.57067713]

>>57067661
I call them scammers, but the chinks making and selling fake coins don't understand the difference between a scam and regular business. They're not scammers, they honestly don't realize that people buying those coins think they're real, or they simply don't care.

This is evidenced by their willingness to label their fake coins as fake when forced to. They naively think americans just love fake coins and will continue to buy them by the millions even when they know they're fake. It's cute really. Chinks have no idea what fraud is, and think there's a real and enormous demand for counterfeit goods in the US.

[Anonymous No.57068156]

Is there a big difference between 999 and 9999 purity for silver? Does it matter that much? Is it worth paying a little bit more for 9999?

[Anonymous No.57068177]

All of the exhausted weak bulls are being shaken out right now. A lot of coinshops will sell you their phyz at a discounted premium if you catch them in conversation about their inventory surplus. Now is the time to buy, before the rocket to $300+ silver.

[Anonymous No.57068210]

>>57068156
No. Paying extra for .9999 silver over .999 is pure retardation. Even with millions worth of silver, the dollar difference is so minor it's not worth noting. Paying extra for .9999 is about as retarded as paying extra for silver coined currency when it's silver content value is the same as bullion. Just go for the cheapest closest-to-spot silver that you can find.

>>57068177
>TWO MORE WEEKS TILL $300 SILVER
>BUY MY OVERPRICED COLLECTORCOINSHIT NOW OR MISS THE TRAIN
Fuck off.

[Anonymous No.57068231]

>>57068156
>Is there a big difference between 999 and 9999 purity for silver?
.9999 is 9 out of 10,000 molecules more pure than .999.

[Anonymous No.57068239]

>>57066685

[Anonymous No.57068243]

>>57068231
>.9999 is 9 out of 10,000 molecules more pure than .999.
until it touches air, then the purity begins to drop.

[Anonymous No.57068244]

>>57068210
he's not wrong though

[Anonymous No.57068257]

>>57068243
>he doesn’t store his bullion in argon purged hermetically sealed capsules
Ngmi

[Anonymous No.57068281]

>>57066729
that looks awful, I'd rather eat it rare

[Anonymous No.57068298]

>>57068257
I prefer to store my bullion as silver nitrate in solution or gold chlorides. Thieves don't know what to do with it and end up drinking it and dying. I used to use a pregnant liquor of cyanide, but ever since the tragic accident with the neighbor's dog I stopped doing that. I keep some mercury amalgam slurry around as well, but I can't recommend that for most stackers. You have to be pretty careful around that stuff.

anyways, don't drink out of my gallon jugs of "Apple Cider" in the fridge.

[Anonymous No.57068300]

>>57068239
i too enjoy deep relief

[Anonymous No.57068308]

>>57068300
the coomer in me wants this

[Anonymous No.57068335]

>>57068300
As much as I enjoy me some argentum ubera, the premiums attached to such pieces are hard to justify

[Anonymous No.57068340]

>>57066660

got mine as well. the beardy whiskers came out perfectly. now the long wait for the GRIPPY.

[Anonymous No.57068350]

>>57068298
Based mad scientist stacker

[Anonymous No.57068352]

>>57068244
People have been saying that two more weeks nonsense for the last 50 years. The reality is that it may still be decade(s) yet before true price discovery of silver happens, if ever. People trying to crowd into silver as a "get rich quick" scheme need to get lost, and the disingenuous ones baiting them into are even worse. Precious metals is primarily for inflation hedging and wealth preservation.

[Anonymous No.57068357]

>>57068350
I had to take this picture with one hand btw

[Anonymous No.57068366]

>>57068357
Your fingers look like raw salmon

[Anonymous No.57068386]

My oldest piece of gold, 1788 doubloon

[Anonymous No.57068415]

>>57068386
That’s a beauty, was it minted in Spain or the new world? Also show reverse

[Anonymous No.57068427]

>>57068415
I think it was made in Spain because King Charles is named "Carol" on the coin

[Anonymous No.57068456]

>>57068386
>>57068427
Where did you buy that?

[Anonymous No.57068495]

>>57068456
>Where did you buy that?
Fleabay, but that seller doesn't seem to be offering any more

[Anonymous No.57068505]

>>57068427
Did you have this appraised and certified, and if so by whom? As a collector, there are a few things on this that seem a little odd, but coins in this period are kind of all over in terms of quality. Rare to see this one with such a good strike and so little damage

[Anonymous No.57068506]

>>57068386
That is a pretty rough looking cast. Sorry bro

[Anonymous No.57068525]

>>57068505
>As a collector, there are a few things on this that seem a little odd
Such as?

>>57068506
It's about a 1/4 oz gold that was on sale close to spot. Not worried about it bro.

[Anonymous No.57068531]

>>57068506
I know fuck all about numismatic coins, but I know what voids in cast metal look like.
>>57068386
I think this guy is right. Sorry anon.

[Anonymous No.57068539]

>>57067661
I wish I shared your enthusiasm and belief in the current state of the rule of law. Have a merry Christmas fren, and keep stacking.

[Anonymous No.57068545]

>>57068531
>I think this guy is right. Sorry anon.
It's not even graded...wtf are you saying sorry about?

[Anonymous No.57068555]

>>57068545
I assumed you paid over spot. If not then disregard. Again, I'm not into numismatics. A fake gold coin is still a gold coin. You're only burned if you paid a premium.

[Anonymous No.57068557]

>>57068539
I've seen improvement in listings of fake coins. So it's not faith, just seeing the law in action and expecting that action to continue.

>>57068531
>I know what voids in cast metal look like.
combined with the interesting cud on the top denticles and the weird line (pour line?) on the reverse at the same location. As well as the apparent weakness of the "2" on the reverse.

I hesitate to say it's definitely fake, but I'd also want it tested before I bought one. Pretty coin though.

[Anonymous No.57068561]

>>57068555
>A fake gold coin is still a gold coin
unless it's not gold.

[Anonymous No.57068565]

I bought a tube of ase today for $30/oz and feel great.

[Anonymous No.57068566]

>>57068561
This. I wonder if he's sigma tested it. It looks awfully sus.

[Anonymous No.57068574]

>>57068566
>It looks awfully sus.
Are you ever going to elaborate?

[Anonymous No.57068602]

>>57068574
>asking fud bots to elaborate
lol.

[Anonymous No.57068619]

>>57068602
Well it's a very tiny part of my stack and I'm willing to entertain the idea that it's fake. Wouldn't be the end of the world but the seller seems legit.

[Anonymous No.57068623]

>>57068602
It is a weird item. All the damage to the very top of the coin on both sides could easily be an indication it was poured.

The rim would be interesting to see, but with the poor quality of the pics already posted I doubt we'd get the sort of detail we'd need.

[Anonymous No.57068626]

>>57068623
>but with the poor quality of the pics already posted I doubt we'd get the sort of detail we'd need.
Why can't you just ask me for better pics like a normal human being?
I didn't think anyone would care and I'm drunk so forgive me.

[Anonymous No.57068638]

>>57068623
>>57068619
Just do a specific gravity test and if it has the density of gold drop it on a wooden table to see if it rings like a bell or thuds like a rock

[Anonymous No.57068640]

>>57068574
Just look at it. The shape is too perfectly round, the "strike" too unworn. Plus this bits noticed here >>57068557. Not to mention you got it on eBay (did you even get a lifetime warranty? saw the seller well knowm for dealing in numismatics?). And most of all you claim you got it for spot.

>>57068623
This. The rim will also be telling I bet.

[Anonymous No.57068656]

>>57068626
I'm buzzed too, but it look like it was cast to me. I've worked with and around molten metals for almost 20 years. If I were to recreate something like that, I'd stamp a series of molds into plastic refractory and slightly deform the molds to make them look unique. That's what it looks like. Voids aside, some.of those little ridges should be worn down and flaked off after 200+ years. It looks like a fugazi to me.

[Anonymous No.57068691]

>>57068626
>Why can't you just ask me for better pics like a normal human being?
because I'm an asshole for one thing, and for another it's pretty difficult to get a detailed pic of the rim of a coin. I know it's not easy, I've done it before.
>>57068656
yeah, the bubbles in the pour MIGHT be from a bad cast on the original bar the planchet was rolled from, but seems unlikely. Could also be exposure to a solvent that dissolves gold, but again unlikely.

[Anonymous No.57068694]

>>57068386
>>57068427
Show edge

[Anonymous No.57068713]

>>57068640
>>57068656
>>57068691
>>57068694
dammit I'm too drunk for this give me details about what you need to see

[Anonymous No.57068714]

>>57068386
almost looks like a mouse chewed on it, but no teeth marks on the reverse so that's probably not it.

[Anonymous No.57068718]

>>57068713

[Anonymous No.57068724]

>>57068713
You got a cast. Take it to a coin shop and get it sigma tested to find out if it's at least gold.

[Anonymous No.57068725]

>>57068713
Angled reeding, looks legit. Congrats anon.

[Anonymous No.57068729]

>>57068718
perfect thanks

that does appear to be a rather bad cast.

[Anonymous No.57068734]

>>57068691
Release agents are often solvents lol.
Ok, I don't want to pick on this guy, and I really am out of my element on this. I'm going to bed. Merry Christmas my fellow stackers!

[Anonymous No.57068738]

>>57068718
Even more damning than the other edge pic. That edge is too sharp for a coin that old. It'd be rounded a bit. Plus that gap on the left side there looks like an air bubble.

[Anonymous No.57068746]

>>57068734
merry christmas bro, your knowledge of metal is appreciated.

[Anonymous No.57068763]

>>57068738
>That edge is too sharp for a coin that old. It'd be rounded a bit. Plus that gap on the left side there looks like an air bubble.
also appears to lack reeding and has angled cut marks

this is the location at the top of the mold where the metals was poured in and air vented out. The excess metal from the pour and vent tubes was cut off with a hacksaw and filed down. Reeding appears to be missing in this quadrant, the same quad with odd surface and rim damage. It has all the hallmarks of a poorly doctored cast.

[Anonymous No.57068774]

>>57068724
>>57068729
>>57068738
Alright I'll take it to a shop and see what they say but people on such a reputable website like eBay would never lie like this. I'll post an update here once I know.

[Anonymous No.57068777]

>>57068763
Escudos do have angled reeding tho lmao. I think anon's coin is genuine.

[Anonymous No.57068792]

>>57068774
>people on such a reputable website like eBay would never lie like this.
kek

it's possible it's real. It's also possible it's fake but the seller didn't know that. Lots of possibilities. Thanks for posting pics and giving us something to look at. That's a really cool coin whether it's fake or not.

[Anonymous No.57068802]

>>57068777
yes, it could be.

I think the lack of reeding in the same spot where there's rim damage, a mysterious cud, and some odd lines, holes or bubbles makes it look cast, whether it is or not. I'd bet a small amount of money it's cast.

[Anonymous No.57068839]

>>57068802
For all that it's worth, small flaws like that hairline are not unheard of with older dies, scarface peace dollar comes to mind. While i do see damage, it's nothing near those crap ancient greek casts someone posted the other day. It appears to be the right color, and the strike of charles' smug looks correct. I'd bet a wiener it comes back real.

[Anonymous No.57068859]

>>57068802
FWIW I just wanted to buy a piece of American history and wasn't worried about any damage. Couldn't find a 1776.

[Anonymous No.57068860]

>>57068839
Yep, each bit of damage by itself isn't anything to be suspicious of.

but all of them together in one spot makes me really suspicious. What are the odds you're going to get a die crack running perfectly horizontally right next to some voids or bubbles in the metal, and unrelated cud (chip) in the denticles, and reeding destroyed on the rim?

all of those things can happen naturally, but all of them happening by chance in the same spot is beyond unlikely. I've cast a few fake coins, to me that looks exactly like the sloppy fakes I used to make out of solder. Right down to the cut marks and missing reeds at the pour spout.

[Anonymous No.57068865]

>>57066635
>thinking about emptying all but $400 from my checking (still have plenty in savings) and buying dimes
Why shouldn’t I?

[Anonymous No.57068893]

>>57068860
All plausible and reasonable concerns, if a little fuddy. Take it to the shop, anon.s0v08

[Anonymous No.57068912]

I'm currently into turn of the millennium coins when the simulation started to malfunction.

[Anonymous No.57068917]

>>57068713
>>57068718
A coin that old in that condition would have been graded a long time ago. It's probably not even gold.

[Anonymous No.57068985]

>>57068917
>in that condition
it's dented and weirdly shaped but I understand. Will try to get some results in the next few weeks. Holidays and all.

[Anonymous No.57069027]

>>57066660
those are neat

[Anonymous No.57069038]

>>57068985
That fact that you're oblivious to the fact that the "strike" has essentially 0 wear indicates you're an amateur. Before you blow your money on consumerist impulses, maybe next time DYOR into a coin if it actually interests you (or old coins in general for that matter). The damage everyone is referring to is very specifc and clearly not natural circulation wear. Maybe you're just trolling the thread with this coin though, in which case congrats on all the (you)s. If not a troll, then you're just another fool and his money.

[Anonymous No.57069103]

>>57069038
>Maybe you're just trolling
My friend, it's a Friday night and almost Christmas. Let your anger go.

[Anonymous No.57069225]

>>57069038
If he's trolling I liked it. The pictures could've been better but they were good enough I think.

reminds me of another problem with the coin- all the damage is located at the top of the coin. Fakers are weird, we automatically rotate the coin in the mold so the pour and vent holes are at the exact top. Like OCD need to align the coin "properly" in the mold. Our fakes would be a lot more convincing if we didn't do that. Maybe rotate it so the pour damage was in some random part of the coin instead of the exact top of the portrait.
I'm learning, we're going to make better fake coins going forward.

[Anonymous No.57069302]

>>57069225
although again this doesn't necessarily mean the coin is fake.

but what are the odds we'd have:
>perfectly horizontal die crack
>unrelated denticle cud
>bubbles or porosity in the planchet
>missing reeds on the edge
>edge flattened in angular pattern
all in the same place at the exact top of the portrait?

That's 2 die defects, 2 planchet defects, and one major rim damage, all mysteriously located at the same place, coincidentally at the top of the portrait. What are the odds that all this damage happened in one specific place and no others?

easily explained if the coin is poured however. But even then it's still possible we have a counterfeit from 1789 or so. Not super likely, but possible.

[Anonymous No.57069323]

>>57069302
the fun part is if anon can prove that it's a counterfeit slug that circulated in the 1700's it would actually be worth more than the real coin.

even a modern fake could be worth more than the real thing to counterfeit collectors if it's well made. This one doesn't look great though.

[Anonymous No.57069388]

>>57067087
A 20 oz tube of rounds is sometimes cheaper.

[Anonymous No.57069395]

[Anonymous No.57069403]

Insurance companies are about to rugpull the entire housing market.

On Jan 1 2024, major home insurance carriers are going to be pulling out of 35+ states, underwriting criteria getting WAAAAY more strict and unless you’re preferred you’re not getting coverage. Standard and non standard people are screwed.

A person cannot buy a home without insurance. Hedge funds have no such restrictions. Probably not a coincidence.

California will be the hardest hit by the insurance changes.

[Anonymous No.57069408]

there's the last two, probably going to get some more liz maples next.

>>57067102
try the dishwasher!

[Anonymous No.57069409]

>>57069403
Hawaii and florida have been surviving without insurance for ages.

true facts, much of the housing market in the US is just boomers paying cash for houses and not needing insurance. Sucks but it's true. Just another barrier for young people though. As if they need one.

wait, is this pmg related?

[Anonymous No.57069475]

>>57069395
It's kinda weird when a counterfeiter does a one-off hand pour of a single coin and then doesn't bother to clean up the edges. But not uncommon.

[Anonymous No.57069504]

>>57069475
...you do know this is only a 2 escudo (~1/4 oz gold) coin and you can find them on fleabay regularly? They're not that rare.
Just saying it's like 2 am and you're shizo posting to yourself so I'm beginning to doubt your doubts.

[Anonymous No.57069524]

>>57069475
My assessment based on the pretty obvious flaws is that it's a vintage cast replica made for use in jewelry, while pretty good by jewelry standards I don't think it was made to fool numismatists. The damage at the top gives me cut-off suspension loop kinda feels btw. Things like cast replica atocha shipwreck cobs made to be mounted and worn are pretty common and I've seen other cast silver and gold jewelry coins made of good metal so I think there's a fair chance anon's piece is still high karat gold. It should definitely be checked out but I'm optimistic that anon didn't get totally raped on the deal.

[Anonymous No.57069525]

>>57069504
I'm just bumping thread.

like I said, if it's a fake it could well be worth more than the real thing. It's an interesting item. It does look fake to me but I could be wrong. Either way it's a beautiful coin. Whether struck as a spanish doubloon or hand made arts and crafts by either a dishonest peasant of the colonial era or a modern enterprising maker of fake coins. It's not the usual chinese mass produced fake either way. A really cool coin. A work of art or a bit of history. Maybe both.

[Anonymous No.57069528]

>>57069524
>The damage at the top gives me cut-off suspension loop kinda feels btw.
yes, pour and vent cuts can easily be suspension loops

I think he's fine on price, it doesn't sound like it was much of a loss at spot even if it turned out to be gold fill or some crap.

as always, you have a great eye.

[Anonymous No.57069538]

>>57069525
are you claiming it's fake gold altogether or a replica made of gold?
Gonna make up your mind eventually?

[Anonymous No.57069543]

>>57069538
>are you claiming it's fake gold altogether or a replica made of gold?
I'm not claiming anything

the mark of a large mind is the ability to entertain conflicting possibilities without having to choose one

this is also the weakness of a large mind
you don't seem plagued by this weakness.

[Anonymous No.57069550]

>>57069543
>you don't seem plagued by this weakness.
I was just asking what you meant. Your ego is large.

[Anonymous No.57069557]

>>57069550
>Your ego is large.
enormous, like my dick

I don't know if it's real gold or not
I don't even know if it's a replica or not

my guess is replica, low grade gold. But it's just a guess. Get it tested, find out. Either way it's a cool coin.

[Anonymous No.57069564]

>>57069557
>responding in less than 1 minute with this much text
My friend, seek help. What a stupid thing to get fired up about on a Friday night. I already said I'd get it checked out. Relax.

[Anonymous No.57069599]

>>57069564
this is me when something catches my interest. I will have completely forgotten about it in a day if nobody mentions it again. Only to remember it in 5 years when it comes up again.

my fear is you'll get it checked and that's the very last we'll hear on the topic, because usually if we question a coin we never hear back if it's real or not. I assume the dozens of coins we questioned but never heard about were all fakes, but there's no way to be certain.

yours is a particularly interesting case though, I will remember it even if you don't check back. If it's a cast it's a better one than the usual. Still disappointing on the edge treatment, but we've seen much worse.

[Anonymous No.57069623]

>>57069599
>talking about the size of his dick
>resorting to ad hominem when questioned
>”this is just me when something catches my interest”
Right. Hope those meds kick in soon. I’m going to bed now like a normal person.

[Anonymous No.57069632]

>>57069623
good night anon. There are no meds for my disease.

Merry Christmas and be assured, I'd be happy to own your doubloon whether it's real or fake. That's a cool fucking coin. Maybe even more cool if it's made by hand by some skilled counterfeiter in india. It's art and history either way.

[Anonymous No.57069676]

>>57068298
I store my bullion in my hand. Or inside my pillow.

t. Sleeps on 2 oz of gold every night

[Anonymous No.57069686]

>>57069623
I can make your coin for about $3 in plaster and $15 in alloy

but you're going to pay hundreds of dollars for my years of practice casting coins. Maybe thousands.

a fake actually costs more to make than the real thing. And I could make a much better fake than the one you bought. I've had years of practice. Not to make money, just out of curiosity about how things are made.

[Anonymous No.57069767]

>>57069623
the biggest giveaways of your fake are the rippled surface of the field and the positive impressions (die crack and cud and weird bump on the obverse left of the portrait).
the negative marks (lack of reeding, obverse porosity, bubble in the reeding) could be attributed to damage, but the positive marks are fucking damning.

A pro wouldn't leave these mistakes. It's sloppy. Just like the lack of wear is sloppy.

a real artist would fix these problems before selling. And I'd bet money whoever made your coin eventually fixed these problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16y1AkoZkmQ

[Anonymous No.57069850]

>>57069623
the biggest killer to your coin or one I make is a simple reed count

count the number of reeds around the coin. Yep, yours is wrong.

real artists count the fucking reeds and get the number right

[Anonymous No.57069874]

>>57069850
>real artists count the fucking reeds and get the number right
this isn't easy, because it deals with spacing distance, not just number.

[Anonymous No.57069880]

>>57069874
>it deals with spacing distance, not just number.
easy enough on a cast, but damn difficult on the rim spaces left by pour and vent gaps.

[Anonymous No.57069904]

>>57069880
>damn difficult on the rim spaces left by pour and vent gaps.
you can get around this by pouring and venting to the surface instead of edge, but then you get whiz marks where the molding marks were erased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvBCYGHZuMk

[Anonymous No.57069932]

>>57069904
>then you get whiz marks where the molding marks were erased.
no matter how you fake a coin, a good forensic numismatist is going to spot it easy

I'm not even good and I know anon's doubloon is a fake.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c9z_3VhNefs
fuck the rus

[Anonymous No.57070087]

>>57069932
the very best way to cast a coin is make a plastic or silicone negative removed via slit. Then create a wax positive from that flex cast. Finally make a rigid plaster neg of the wax positive with a slit entry and vent perpendicular to the reeding.

Then lost wax in a heated cast and file the reeds before tumbling the coin to simulate wear.

but even this will be obvious under a microscope. The file or saw marks on the reeds will give it away every time, if the tumbler marks aren't proof enough.

you can't fake fucking coins down to the micro level. This is why PCGS and NGC make billions.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lp8cGcuokg

[Anonymous No.57070146]

>>57070087
Then there's centrifugal casting of gold amalgams like dentists do when they make gold teeth

but that's fucking rocket science compared to >>57069395

like a fuckin toddler smearing shit on the walls.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LuOW2sgq6U

[Anonymous No.57070216]

>>57070146
>like a fuckin toddler smearing shit on the walls.
the people making these fakes would've been executed in the good old days for bad workmanship.

when your life depends on the quality of your work, the work tends to get better. The cast fakes recently are bad jokes.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRg_8NNPTD8

[Anonymous No.57070391]

>>57070216
when casting you have to deal with sprue and parting line flash.

this
>>57069395
is just sloppy clean up.

[Anonymous No.57070435]

>>57070391
the real question isn't if anon's doubloon is a poorly cast fake,

it's how many better cast fakes have we NOT detected because they're better fakes?
kek

[Anonymous No.57070450]

>>57070435
not that hard to clean the edges up with a dremel and a saw.

I've made better fakes than that one.

[Anonymous No.57070464]

>>57066685
How often do you coom on that coin? Have you even been successful in summoning a succ?

[Anonymous No.57070499]

>>57069395
what is sprue and flash?

what's it look like when you chop them off?

[Anonymous No.57070508]

>>57068386
Who's that kike?

[Anonymous No.57070510]

>>57069395
Both coins have sprue marks

the bottom one has parting line flash

these are the proofs of a cast fake.

[Anonymous No.57070674]

Pcgs put my fat man with sword as one of their examples. Neat.

https://www.pcgs.com/valueview/saxe-weimar-eisenach/1908-5-mk-jena-university-j-161/1252?sn=292746&g=66&h=

https://www.pcgs.com/cert/48123550

[Anonymous No.57070751]

>>57070674
Badass!
>pop 58
>pop higher 16
so sweet

[Anonymous No.57070846]

>>57068340
By all means buy whatever makes you happy, but I wouldn't want her mug on any silver I own. She's disgusting looking. I hide all threads with her thumbnail too. *barf emoji*

[Anonymous No.57070891]

>>57069525
>It's not the usual chinese mass produced fake
It certainly has all the hallmarks of being so. It was definitely made recently. It has 0 wear on it. Have you seen 24k coins from the 80s that were used as pendants? They look way more scuffed than anons "doubloon". It's an obvious modern fake through and through.

[Anonymous No.57070940]

>>57070891
I don't think even the chinese are mass producing hand poured and cut casts though.

Not that they couldn't, but most of their fakes are stamped and plated. Actually sawing and filing casts like that would take a huge amount of time.

Unless as you suggest it was rigged for hanging and someone just hand cut the attachments off. In that case it could be mass produced.

[Anonymous No.57070995]

You guys have been at this all night? Pretty sure it's a real coin and hyper autism kicked in somewhere. If it was a shitty cast, wouldn't they just throw it back into melt until they got a decent one? This level of paranoia is better spent elsewhere.

[Anonymous No.57071011]

I demand a photo of one of these superfakes with a timestamp, else y'all are bloviating over nothing to make some poor kid think he boughtafuggazzi

[Anonymous No.57071030]

>>57066729
Looks bomb anon. Do you season the water first?

[Anonymous No.57071140]

>>57070995
>>57071011
Do you have any evidence that it's real, beyond your narrative-based head canon and psychoanalyzing of the imaginary bootleggers in your mind?

[Anonymous No.57071189]

>>57071140
Fuck off Eckart Tolle, his lcs will be determinate on the matter.

[Anonymous No.57071227]

>>57068335
If one could get their hands on a piece that brings it out to 27-28usd per oz or 950-980 per piece would that be a good deal? My LCS has a few but I always overlook them because I am not familiar with the pieces.

[Anonymous No.57071237]

>>57070891
>Have you seen 24k coins from the 80s that were used as pendants? They look way more scuffed than anons "doubloon".

Yeah I have, you're right about the wear unless they weren't worn much. Some gifts a man buys for the wife don't get much use or appreciation, and a replica coin pendant displaying an ugly old Spaniard was probably up there. That coin is not characteristic of modern mass-produced Chinese fakes, but definitely is the sort of thing that jewelers could have been commissioned to make or even offered as a regular product. I bet Jewelry shops along the "Treasure Coast" in Florida are very familiar with that sort of thing.

>>57069767
>the biggest giveaways of your fake are the rippled surface of the field and the positive impressions (die crack and cud and weird bump on the obverse left of the portrait)

Agreed, the bump in the field plus the bubble on the reverse in the Q in the "Utro q Felix bother me the most. I think the "cud" right on top of the Spaniard's head is an artifact left from the now-missing suspension loop.

[Anonymous No.57071294]

>>57070940
shut the fuck up

[Anonymous No.57071356]

>>57071189
>his lcs will be determinate on the matter
Unless they deal in numismatics, the only thing they'll be able to determine is the metal and it's purity, but as anon said earlier (>>57069599), I doubt he'll come back and share his results of even that. Not to mention doubloomscamanon has been making inflammatory posts to anyone who points out the obviously sus things. I'm thinking this was all a troll and not a case of a fool and his money. The only fool here is apparently you. And lastly
>Do you have any evidence that it's real
No, you don't, because you're a fucking retard talking out of his festering ass.

>>57071237
That's a possibility, but it kept it's lack of wear for all these untold decades or centuries? Seems very unlikely. And let's also not forget that anon says he got it for spot. I'm just not buyin the whole master craftsman forgery who made it for a pendant that isn't there and was never used and kept in perfect condition only to turn up on fleabay by a unnamed seller with no lifetime warranty of authenticity. Whereas retards getting scammed online for their uneducated consumerist impulses happens thousands of times a day.

[Anonymous No.57071397]

>>57071011
You don't have a particularly critical eye

[Anonymous No.57071420]

>>57071397
Also the blob at the top of the rim over his head is extremely telling.

[Anonymous No.57071495]

>>57071420
Yes

[Anonymous No.57071753]

>>57071356
>it kept it's lack of wear for all these untold decades or centuries? Seems very unlikely.
I'm thinking it's 30-50 years old, and based on my broad observational experience it's quite common for something like that to sit unused for the lifetime of the first owner then get cut down/removed from jewelry by whoever bought it at an estate sale or whatever.

>I'm just not buyin the whole master craftsman forgery who made it for a pendant that isn't there

No one who has recognized it as a fake thinks it's a forger's masterpiece, I've seen plenty of similar replica jewelry coins that were made more skillfully.

>never used and kept in perfect condition

It clearly saw *some* use and certainly isn't as perfect as it was when manufactured, the scratch in picrel is a good example.

Anyway splitting hairs about the original purpose of the replica is autism, we all agree it's not legit and that's most important.

[Anonymous No.57071916]

I’m super glad I didn’t stay awake to read Mr. Methhead babbler’s blog entries here. Jesus.

[Anonymous No.57072008]

>>57071916
Thats Bob. He’s usually high on Chivas. But he’s back at early, so maybe its meth.

[Anonymous No.57072047]

I’ve challenged Bob to a gentleman’s duel, he will not accept on neutral ground. He will only duel above his vast silver mines that empower him to post on /pmg/ for 12 hours straight. Who knows what strange and mysterious forces the silver is having on his shitposting abilities… It’s likely also giving him catlike reflexes, the lead in his blood has become metaphysically intertwined with the massive LODE beneath his ass. If you ever find his shack, do not be surprised if he’s hovering above the ground with his laptop as a bottle of Chivas Regal floats above his head drip drip dripping into his mouth, converting itself at zero energy loss into abhorrent shitposts.

[Anonymous No.57072101]

>>57066881
NOOOOO EVERYONE HAS TO COOK STEAK THE WAY I DO NOOOO

[Anonymous No.57072121]

Merry Christmas
Merry Christmas
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY-XDQN6ipE

[Anonymous No.57072143]

>>57072121
Merry Christmas

[Anonymous No.57072275]

>>57072121
>>57072143
Merry Christmas frens. Giving these to my sister tomorrow.

[Anonymous No.57072276]

crypto nerds will seethe

[Anonymous No.57072482]

[Anonymous No.57072490]

>>57072275
based, wholesome and comfy.
[pic related not mine]

[Anonymous No.57072519]

>>57072482
>>57066926
[ L e g e n d a r y ] /pmg/ stacks

[Anonymous No.57072558]

/cmmg/ on suicide watch

[Anonymous No.57072581]

>>57072558
nnooooo not my heckin' Newmonterinoooos!!!

[Anonymous No.57072684]

>>57072490
My sister turns 30 next year and she's graduating with a masters degree. For graduation I already have a 5oz bar for her. For her birthday I'll either get her another 5oz piece or maybe a 10.

[Anonymous No.57072730]

>>57072275
Does she understand the value of it? My sister just thinks of it like I just like collecting it, like funko pops or something, and would not appreciate being given any silver, or than to trade it for cash

[Anonymous No.57072776]

>>57069543
>i'm just asking questions and refuse to make a definitive statement
yeah this doesn't mean you are big brained, mate

[Anonymous No.57072798]

>>57072730
She has a similar view as yours. I've tried to explain the whole price suppression, but girl brain so...

[Anonymous No.57072836]

>>57072798
Girl brain.....
Lol.

[Anonymous No.57072869]

*AHEM*.....
>Bayhorse

[Anonymous No.57072879]

keep on mining

[Anonymous No.57073138]

>>57066635
Looks like Gold Backs are back on the menu boys!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPK9EDZEYlM

[Anonymous No.57073572]

mintanon give an eta on finishing crusader shipments? think i read he'd try to have em out before xmas. noticed a few here havnt received them yet including myself.

[Anonymous No.57073642]

>>57073572
I was order 1067 and got mine yesterday.

[Anonymous No.57074162]

>>57073572
>>57073642
I should be able to get all orders tracking numbers by the end of this weekend

[Anonymous No.57074228]

>>57074162
cool, ty

[Anonymous No.57074465]

Guy can't deal with the fact that now and then, someone gets a cool score.

[Anonymous No.57074477]

[Anonymous No.57074488]

[Anonymous No.57074515]

Dubs fear nothing (pic not mine, different lucky anon)

[Anonymous No.57074709]

>>57068357
based Leopold II enjoyer

[Anonymous No.57075213]

>>57066682
>>57066926
>>57067291
>>57072482
hello fellow crusaders

[Anonymous No.57075302]

happy christmas times ahead

[Anonymous No.57075374]

>>57066799
Yes

[Fullmetal No.57075589]

>>57074162
i still got 1 more crusader order im waiting on tracking for, somewhere in the high 1300s idk if you got that far. the other 2 got to me and these are by far my favorite coin

[Anonymous No.57075643]

Anyone here know much about coins (or where I should go to ask)? Found some old coin collections and seems like most of these aren't worth much individually but maybe as a set they are?

[Anonymous No.57075649]

Got my Crusader package today but since we're so close to Christmas I'm going to wait 2 more days to open it.

[Anonymous No.57075653]

>>57075643
That is about 15-20 dollars in coins there. So not much.

[Anonymous No.57075747]

>>57075643
Throw it on Ebay for $80. Make the listing look good and promote the listing. You could get $50 in the next 2 years.

[Anonymous No.57075766]

>>57075643
That’s not worth a penny more than $25 so I would just keep it if I were you. Are there any other collections?

[Anonymous No.57075803]

>>57075302
Merry Christmas frens

[Anonymous No.57075817]

>>57074465
>Guy can't deal with the fact that now and then, someone gets a cool score.
It's just IQDELET posting fake coins in every thread to test/troll us. The number of fakes being posted here is abnormally high lately, and IQ has suddenly become an expert on cast coins.

At least this time he took the time to give us more pics when requested. I don't mind people getting great deals, I regularly admire your good scores. But you don't post fakes very often and when you do it's because you already know they're fake.

[Anonymous No.57075822]

Hmm to buy some silver for myself as Christmas gift or not to...

[Anonymous No.57075853]

>>57074465
I mean we've gone from a fake posted every month or two to one posted in almost every thread.

this is even more suspicious than the coins themselves.

[Anonymous No.57075859]

>>57075822
you know you want to

[Anonymous No.57075871]

>>57066682
Same. It's very pretty, but the 9 month wait was pain. Should I even bother with the pirate coin? I've been buying /pmg/ meme coins since Aputannia, but the price and wait time just keep going up so idk.

Mint Anon, when do we get a newer more detailed Aputannia rerun?

[Anonymous No.57075883]

>>57066729
For me, it's the McDouble.

[Anonymous No.57075890]

>>57075871
>Mint Anon, when do we get a newer more detailed Aputannia rerun?
never, thats dumb

[Anonymous No.57075899]

>>57075766
>>57075747
>>57075653
Thanks, I figured they weren't worth much. There are 5 of these silver dollars but don't think they're worth much more than just the silver

[Anonymous No.57075903]

>>57075871
>rerun
Never. They wouldn’t be special if there was ever reruns of older designs.

[Anonymous No.57075906]

>>57072490
So cute. Does this qud accept silver dimes yet?

[Anonymous No.57076005]

>>57075903
>They wouldn’t be special if there was ever reruns of older designs.
It wouldn't be the older design though. Compare the Aputannia to the Crusader, or even the WAGMI coin, and you will see that the Crusader is vastly more detailed. Apu's shirt on the Aputannia doesn't even have wrinkles or detailing on it, its just a solid smooth spot.

What I'm talking about is a NEW and IMPROVED Aputannia thats takes advantage of all the detailing tricks Mint Anon has learned about since then. The original Aputannia will always be unique and distinct, but we can do so much better now.

There was talk a while ago about potentially making Aputannia a yearly thing because it was the flagship coin of /pmg/ and I still support that idea.

[Anonymous No.57076101]

>>57075817
>>57075853
>46 pbtid
>not a single stack pic
>latching onto temp IDs and pretending that everyone he doesn't like is that same person
welcome back shizo, how's your meth tonight?

[Anonymous No.57076140]

>>57075899
Morgan and Peace silver dollars have quite the numismatic value, I’m not an expert but you could get $150-$250 for that set depending on the dates and mint marks

[Anonymous No.57076146]

>>57076101
what makes you think I don't like you?
paranoid much?

[Anonymous No.57076160]

>>57076101
That’s Big Bob, he’s a delusional drug addict that claims to be rich and has been shitting up /pmg/ for 3 and a half years now.

[Anonymous No.57076165]

>>57076160
He knows who I am, he's a regular here. This isn't the first time he's posted a questionable coin either.

[Anonymous No.57076169]

>>57076160
does he ever post stack? because then... he is rich. :)

[Anonymous No.57076207]

>>57066635
Milei is gonna sell gold and silver and buy dollars. What effect will this have on the price of gold and silver?

[Anonymous No.57076239]

>>57076005
Well when you put it like that…

[Anonymous No.57076269]

>>57076005
That's alot of words when you could just say "I missed the original Aputannia and the only way I can cope is if a new one comes out"

[IQDELET No.57076273]

>>57076146
>>57076165
It is I, IQDELET, here to wage war against you.
You were right. I'm always here, testing you, waiting for you to slip up...

[Anonymous No.57076340]

>>57076273
where do you store that stack, anon

[Anonymous No.57076360]

>>57076269
Nice coins.

[IQDELET No.57076383]

>>57076340
Didn't you hear the other guy? My pics are all fake. Brass, primarily, with some copper mixed in I would guess.

[Anonymous No.57076384]

>>57076273
>I'm willing to entertain the idea that it's fake
that stuck in my mind. I've heard it before and not very long ago. So I checked the archives to see who said it.

[Anonymous No.57076392]

>>57066682
>>57066710
>>57067291
>>57075213
>>57075871

Deus Vult brethren!

[Anonymous No.57076401]

>>57076383
ok

rude

[IQDELET No.57076411]

>>57076384
>So I checked the archives to see who said it.
And? Was it the Legendary IQDELET?
What do you think about my fake gold buffaloes?

[Anonymous No.57076469]

>>57076411
>What do you think about my fake gold buffaloes?
they look real to me.

[IQDELET No.57076487]

>>57076469
Pure brass, pipsqueak.
Watch yourself or you're gonna get a big kiss on the lips.

[Anonymous No.57076525]

>>57076207
>sell gold and silver and buy dollars
holy shit i thought he was a reatrd but,... holy shit

[Anonymous No.57076634]

>>57076273
Those prairieniggers look kinda sus...

[Anonymous No.57076642]

>>57076634
count the reeds, they're obvious fakes. No real person would make a coin that ugly

[Anonymous No.57076662]

>>57076360
>putting you silver on chrome tanned leather
Really testing how air tight those Air Tites are, aren't ya?

>>57076383
>white noise
>>57076487
>horizontal lines
>sharp piece one the capsule
Does this guy have a single crain of real metal to his name?

[Anonymous No.57076667]

>>57075822
My Mexican friends informed me that the banks are now saying there's a shortage of silver causing the lack of libertads available. I know one of their big mines was down for a few months earlier in the year, but Mexico is the largest producer of silver in the world.

I think there's a shortage that will start showing in the retail arena soon, so I say: get yourself something Really Nice, Clark.

[IQDELET No.57076734]

>>57076667
I didn't know Mexicans could afford silver.

[Anonymous No.57076824]

>>57076734
cartels buy it all up to turn to US dollars.

[Anonymous No.57077112]

any crusaders up on ebay/for sale yet?

[Anonymous No.57077169]

>>57077112
Anon put one up, but i think he took it down

[Anonymous No.57077468]

Here's another certified one.

[Anonymous No.57077470]

Anyone own proof libertads?

[Anonymous No.57077511]

>>57077169
i wonder why? do you know what price it was set at?

[Anonymous No.57077542]

>>57077511
.01 lol. it was an auction

[Anonymous No.57078133]

>>57077468

[Anonymous No.57078140]

>>57076269
He specifically said he's been buying /pmg/ themed coins since aputania. Go read it again.

I wouldn't mind a deluxe Aputania. I don't think that coin even had a gold trim option originally like all anonymint coins now have, so that feature alone would get me to buy a new aputania.

[Anonymous No.57078162]

>>57076824
You realize cartels use mostly dollars to begin with, right? Their major market is Americans who pay with dollars. Why would they buy silver with dollars only to sell it for dollars? Even if they were not already using dollars, why would they buy silver with pesos to then sell for dollars when they could just exchange pesos directly for dollars?

Do you have any evidence for this claim of yours?

[Anonymous No.57078192]

>>57078162
the first problem with being a criminal is you can't keep your money in the bank because governments will take it.
The second problem is you can't spend your money because governments will take whatever you spend it on.

to get around this, you buy products or services having a semi-legitimate provenance, when you then sell again to give the appearance that the money was gained in legal business rather than crime.

this is called money laundering. There's lots of goods and services you could buy and re-sell, but if you're laundering billions of dollars you need something expensive, liquid, widely available and accepted, and difficult to trace.

precious metals have long been used to avoid government scrutiny because they fit these requirements nicely. Lots of other things can be used instead, but silver certainly would work.

>Do you have any evidence for this claim of yours?
of course not, have you seen what cartels do to people that evidence of their crimes? This is just something various mexican stackers on /pmg/ have mentioned over the years, and it sounds plausible enough.

[Anonymous No.57078204]

>>57078162
the other thing mexicans have told us here is the cartels actually own and operate mexico's silver mines. Which is also not difficult to believe.

[Anonymous No.57078246]

>>57078192
How is buying and selling billions of dollars worth of silver NOT a gigantic red flag of illegal business? Money laundering requires an actual business front, not just an exchange of assets.

[Anonymous No.57078258]

>>57078246
>How is buying and selling billions of dollars worth of silver NOT a gigantic red flag of illegal business?
It certainly would be unless you had hundreds or perhaps thousands of people making relatively small sales. Something for which cartels are already set up to do.
Or if you happened to own silver mines.
>Money laundering requires an actual business front, not just an exchange of assets.
either can work, individual sales of assets below a certain dollar amount are easy enough to prove, and there's not a lot of questions asked about where the metal came from.

[Anonymous No.57078274]

>>57078204
Now if you actually own a silver mine, then exchanging silver for dollars would be okay. Maybe. And you could, in theory, melt libertads and cast them into bars to make it look like it came from your mine. But you still need to BUY those billions of dollars worth of libertads somewhere without raising suspicion. I guess you could hire ten thousand randos to do it for you.

I'm still dubious.

[Anonymous No.57078278]

>>57078274
Like I said, I don't know if it's true. It's just what one or mexicans have told us over the years and it seems plausible enough.

it would certainly explain mexico being the largest silver producer in the world and still not having enough silver. Mine production would be inflated by buying up their own product and then pretending it came from the mines. But product would always be in short supply because they keep buying it every time it goes out for sale.

[Anonymous No.57078291]

>>57078258
Even if billions of dollars worth of libertads were being snapped up by the cartels and then resold, those libertads would still be on the market so that wouldn't explain the shortage.

[Anonymous No.57078302]

>>57078291
unless they were melting them and tossing them in with the mill run. But more likely they're just buying up most of the silver directly from the mine, mill, or refinery and then passing it off as newly mined product. Which would leave far less silver available to the government to mint, at least locally.

the other thing we were told though is they have straw buyers snapping up libertads at banks, and who knows what happens to those coins? In my limited experience in mexico, most people don't have money to stack silver, and probably wouldn't even if they could. So those libertads are disappearing somewhere and it's probably not into the pockets of the mexican people.

[Anonymous No.57078330]

>>57078291
another more amusing possibility is that libertads are being used as black market currency in mexico, trading for drugs, protection, guns, payroll for gangs, bribes to cops, whatever. In that case it would be the average mexican buying up all those coins, and in fact most mexicans would have a stack of them.

this would be a funny thing because it's /pmg/s wet dream to have silver used as money. And it's possible that's what's happening. Though again I have no evidence of that.

[Anonymous No.57078366]

It's not really stacking season with these prices but it's been a journey the past couple years

[Anonymous No.57078911]

Boomers, I am trying to sell some pure Gold and the best offers seem to be between 10-15% off spot price.

This is ridiculous. What kind of investment taxes you 15% just for liquidating it? Its like holding a fucking shitcoin.

[Anonymous No.57079226]

>>57078911
>trying to exchange your precious metals before total kike death and entire financial system meltdown
NGMI

[Anonymous No.57079235]

>>57078911
bullshit

[Anonymous No.57079329]

>>57078911
>pure gold
Are you trying to sell jewelry but want to hide this fact by saying "pure gold"?

[Anonymous No.57079377]

>>57078911
>those digits
>call the police for help

post "pure" gold

[Anonymous No.57079949]

>>57078278
>>57078291
I've never heard anything like this in Mexico. Idk much about the mining there except that the military guards some of the the mines, and the military is considered the uncorrupted branch of government, so it seems unlikely. Some cartels have overtaken legit industries though. The avacado farming was a recent one until some locals banded together and fought back. I assume it worked because avocados in the US have been cheap again for the past year or so.

The idea that cartels would need complicated schemes to launder money in Mexico doesn't make much sense though. They don't need to worry about audits there lol. From what I understand, they simply launder their USD, in the US, through various shell and paper companies, like many organizations do. Mexico is generally ruled behind the scenes by whichever cartel and it's allies have power at the moment. Citizens will complain that x or y was better when this president and that cartel was running things lol. It's like an open secret.

My opinion is very simply that there's a shortage. The specific reasons, idk, but I'll guess US interests are buying more than usual seeing as: our government recently handed out billions in new defense contracts. We burned up billions in stored weapons that use silver. We mandated new electric vehicle production. Retail silver demand has been up since the pandemic.

Occam's razor says Mexico just sold more to the highest bidders. Neither wants this known because it may cause a panic and drive prices up.

[Anonymous No.57080984]

What ever happened to holocoinanon?

[Anonymous No.57081028]

>>57080984
Imao I hope he comes back next year

[Anonymous No.57081156]

>>57080984
iCoiners BTFO

[Anonymous No.57081450]

>>57066635
It's beginning to look alot like Christmas!

[Anonymous No.57081457]

Merry Christmas

[Anonymous No.57081495]

>>57079949
The Libertad is just a low mintage coin and Mexico has no legal obligation to try to keep up with demand. The Silver Eagle by law needs to increase production with demand. Most libertad mintages in 1oz silver are around 750,000. It's just a different country

[Anonymous No.57081574]

Is silver the kind of thing you wait for a dip to buy?

[Anonymous No.57081591]

>>57079949
none of that is true

no one is using libratads as payment. its just low mintage

[Anonymous No.57081599]

>>57081574
It's been crabbing since 2021. I've been just DCAing.

[Anonymous No.57081601]

>>57081574
For any large buys, yes. Otherwise I just constantly (once a month) buy small amounts even when the price is higher.

[Anonymous No.57081637]

Merry Christmas you beautiful people

[Anonymous No.57081649]

>>57081574
just spend 5% of your take home on silver

[Anonymous No.57081760]

>>57081637
christmas tree stackers report in

[Anonymous No.57081832]

>>57066635
I’ll say this for the mongoloids in the back; silver is a rich man’s copper not a poor man’s gold. Silver and copper have similar properties and are used in similar applications. Silver is about 125x copper per lb. Any industry using silver will switch to copper when it hits 50 until the price drops. Silver has barely, if at all, kept up with inflation the last 20 years

[Anonymous No.57081918]

>>57081637
holy mother of Christmas

[Anonymous No.57081992]

>>57081832
why not switch already? If silver is 125x the price of copper is that not worth it to switch now?

[Anonymous No.57082002]

>>57081832
>Any industry using silver will switch to copper when it hits 50
So the demand for copper will skyrocket in this scenario. Copper chads just can’t stop winning!

[Anonymous No.57082066]

I'm receiving a 700€ bonus from work and I wanna invest it in gold/silver. What's my best option as someone who's just starting out?

[Anonymous No.57082069]

>>57082002
copper has 10x premium on bullion, its uninvestable at its base metal prices, that still makes silver the most preferred silver bullion investment. Still waiting to find out why corpos dont want to save BIG Money by switching to copper…

[Anonymous No.57082078]

>>57082066
Tube of Brittanias for you.

[Anonymous No.57082090]

>>57082002
copper has its own problems.
many applications switched from copper to aluminum dacades ago
switching back to copper will drive up copper prices significantlly

[Anonymous No.57082091]

>>57082066
Or whatever Sovereign silver your cunt makes. What Cunt do you reside in?

[Anonymous No.57082140]

>>57082091
Krautland at the moment

[Anonymous No.57082163]

>>57081992
Because OP is talking out of his ass, as his Christmas tree indicates.

[Anonymous No.57082221]

>>57082140
Just get Brittanias. I’m certain you are still going to pay 20% VAT on Philharmonics even if you bought in Austria.

[Anonymous No.57082290]

>>57081832
>1pbtid
>j-just remember to not buy silver, okay?
it's manipulated so low because of its industrial and military uses so that would be a good thing.

[Anonymous No.57082503]

Merry Christmas /PMG/

[Anonymous No.57082687]

>>57082503
Am I still banned?

[Anonymous No.57082691]

[Anonymous No.57082702]

>>57082503
>>57082687
Aw sweet merry Christmas everyone. Crusaders came in and I’m hoping my delayed presents from family might be silver!

Wishing everyone a beautiful end of the year. May your gains continue to grow and may crypto cucks continue to seethe.

[Anonymous No.57082825]

>>57081832
thats all lie

[Anonymous No.57082885]

>>57066635
>dick is in fact bigger around than a silver dollar
It’s a Christmas miracle anons

[Anonymous No.57082886]

>>57081637
Legendary

[crisby No.57083109]

first oz of platinum is in the mail

[Anonymous No.57083254]

>>57083109
I knew it was going to be some creepy asian bimbo before i clicked. When it came to show her face it was a little scary even still.

[Anonymous No.57083297]

>>57083109
She's disappointing.

[Anonymous No.57083313]

>>57083297
let me show you the dance of my people

[Anonymous No.57083317]

Well, looks like i was right, owl coins are satanic filth and shit.

>To find out who rules over you, simply find out who you're not allowed to criticise

[Anonymous No.57083447]

>>57083317
I was banned for racism recently. I was merely discussing the “JRK” phenomenon. Did not even insinuate as to whether it was true.
Quite touchy are we jannies?

[Anonymous No.57083501]

smol nuggets

[Anonymous No.57083609]

Apmex tongue my anus

[Anonymous No.57083682]

>>57083609
You should know this by now, anon. eBay bullion dealers. It’s that easy.

[Anonymous No.57083840]

[Anonymous No.57083930]

>>57083682
he's just the resident nut job, Apmex does charge too much for most things but sometimes they have the best deals on relatively exclusive products

[Anonymous No.57083999]

it's quiet tonight, hope everyone is home and enjoying Christmas Eve with their families

[Anonymous No.57084052]

>>57083109
Das it mane. Platinum is such a chad metal

[Anonymous No.57084087]

>>57081637
Updated tree

[Anonymous No.57084111]

>>57084087
gotdamn this guy is the meme coin king. no boomers tho?

[Anonymous No.57084136]

>>57084111
>digits
>boomers
there are 5 in the photo

[Anonymous No.57084303]

Merry Christmas /PMG/ !!

[Anonymous No.57084334]

>>57084303
Christ is King.

[Anonymous No.57084353]

>>57084087
thats actually pretty ballin

[Anonymous No.57084363]

>>57084303
>Merry Christmas /PMG/ !!

Speaking of i set up the next one early as im off to bed.

>>57084356
>>57084356
>>57084356
>>57084356
>>57084356

[Anonymous No.57084387]

>>57066682
We need a numista page for crusaders.
Anyone have any idea what the mintage is on these

[Anonymous No.57084444]

>>57084387
Mine was 277

[Anonymous No.57084535]

>>57084444
I got 296

[Anonymous No.57084662]

>>57084363
thanks lad

[Anonymous No.57085167]

>>57083317
I posted that thread. I thought it was a great pic of an interesting coin.
Glad I hurt your fragile feelings. Praise Satan

[Anonymous No.57086146]

>>57084087
Amazing anon!

[Anonymous No.57086646]

Posting

[Anonymous No.57086659]

>>57084363
holy fuck, kill the old thread before baking

[Anonymous No.57086903]

Posting again

[Anonymous No.57086920]

Need this thread to auto-sage.

[Anonymous No.57086924]

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