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>> No.56958537

Rates will be CUT next year and we'll see a massive PUMP. Hope you're not a bobo.

>> No.56958549

I had to shit at WMT today
surprisingly there wasn't piss all over the place for once
extremely bearish outlier experience

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>> No.56958575
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>the biggest bobos in smg are all schizos convinced that anyone bullish is a foreign agent PERSONALLY messing with them

>> No.56958578

Someone asked zelensky about ceding territories and he said it would be like asking Americans to give up their children to terrorists kek. Manlet is seething so hard they turned off his money

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>> No.56958587

>3m term is crashing.
I wonder if the 3m vs 6m terms will be the next to uninvert.

>> No.56958595
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i own 2000 SOXL at a 17 average

>> No.56958597

>asking Americans to give up their children to terrorists
We could ship nigglets to enemy countries to destroy them. That's actually a pretty good strategy.

>> No.56958601

>shamelessly runs interference for a mass gaslighting campaign that is immediately detectable by any moron with a financial calendar but because banks win, we can just shut them up
>the good guys

I don't think you're a foreign asset. I think you're a power abusing gestapofaggot piece of shit from right here at home, and I'll never forgot that our corrupt system can produce (unintelligent and worthless) garbage like you for the rest of my life.

>> No.56958608

>that last minute dump from the russell

that seems concerning to me. this past month small caps were leading the market over the big ones which is hyper bullish but now it seems like they are sniffing out some potential danger ahead of us

>> No.56958610

I find it extremely curious that Europeans think they have the privilege of "not my problem"-ing Ukraine like the U.S. does on the other side of the planet.

>> No.56958611
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>I'll never forget
Yeah yeah yeah, no one cares, you won't do anything and I'll continue making money.

>> No.56958626
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500 at $17.45 here

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we can't save bears like this Lil nigga >>56958601 . the market has to heem him into submission. just think about how quiet /smg/ got after to 3500 October low. at peak fear Bobos shorted the bottom and /smg/ came to a crawl

>> No.56958634

I'll continue making money too, stupid faggot. Probably more than you, you gullible cunthead who knows literally dick about the economy or anything other than "cheat."
You corrupt brainless fuckhead. You're god damn right I'll never do anything. I'll never lift a single finger to help gestapo pigs under any circumstance ever.

>> No.56958645

If I was Joe Biden I'd issue an executive order to count interest rates as part of inflation so powell can't hike anymore

>> No.56958672

That doesn't even make any sense.

>> No.56958689

Post positions

>> No.56958703
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bro, you can sniff literally anybody you want without consequence, and you want to sign executive orders? Imagine the power at your fingertips

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>> No.56958725
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>schizo anon off his meds again posting about the gestapo being out to get him

>> No.56958731
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This entire fucking continent is literal NPC spawn spam cattle pen.
"People" are so far removed from being human even their most basic survival instinct atrophied. They do pay their fucking taxes tho, all ~65% of it.

>> No.56958734

I take a very simple view of the stock market; buy regularly, dump in mega loads on extreme drops, and tune out the shat in between. Cause well unless the company/us economy is fucked up things will only go higher. And if things do get fucked up to that sort of extremeness well you've got bigger issues than money to worry about anyway.

>> No.56958737

>Biden signs EO including federal reserve rates as part of inflation
>Inflation spikes to 8 percent
>Powell has to bring back ZIRP to cool inflation

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I think he meant "actually count inflation like back in the day AND subtract interest rate so they have to hike more".

>> No.56958805

>he bought weed stocks
Lmao, adding more to my weed shorts.

>> No.56958818

>A bill has been introduced in the Senate, the End Hedge Fund Control of American Homes Act of 2023, that would force big investors to sell off all the single-family homes they own over 10 years, and eventually ban hedge funds from owning any single-family homes entirely.

What does this mean for retail and the overall market?

>> No.56958820

based and bogle pilled

>> No.56958836

I'm financially ruined.

>> No.56958868

home prices go down so inflation goes down and people are incentivized to work again fixing the shadow unemployment figure the labor department hides that's actually 20 percent

>> No.56958870

If the same bill doesn't strictly restrict zoning for anything except single family homes, the Weimarlords will just have all their single family homes demolished and replaced with multi-family shitboxes and continue holocausting the middle class.

>> No.56958888

Also immigration has to stop. If you don't fix that they'll just pave over all the forests and build high rises full of illiterate Africans there.

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Happy Hanukkah guys.

>> No.56958989

It’s laughable that you think you can stop us

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almost getting tired of winning at this point

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>> No.56959008

no that would be gay

>> No.56959029

Do you guys do this so on the off chance it falls over and burns your hose down, you get insurance money?

>> No.56959031
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It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros

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Anyone see the IBM leak?
They're at 52 week high so either it doesn't matter, or racial quotas are actually good for stock prices.

>> No.56959052

>racial quotas good
Yes, anti-white and East Asian policies have been proven to result in ((((blackstone)))) buying more stock via esg initiatives.
In the long run the company is dead because of it, but hey, since when are parasites concerned with the king run?

>> No.56959054

I bet more fires are caused every year by covering those x-mas trees with lights or hanging socks in front of a fucking fireplace.

>> No.56959056

>Anyone see the IBM leak?
What leak?

>> No.56959073

I think Elon made a tweet about it. Could also be just a carefully spliced hitpiece or some AI altered audio.

>> No.56959085

It's laughable that you're such a fucktarded power ranger faggot that you immediately take it there.
Grow up, naive little retard boy.

>> No.56959087

rates have peaked and you can buy long dated corporates for 50 cents to 60 cents on the dollar.

you can collect 4-5% forever. or you can collect 4-5% yield and sell in a few years for big gains as the price of the bonds go up.

>> No.56959089

i should post the internal docs from my former company (one the top 20 revenue companies). execs used to get monthly updates with trends showing the non-white hires. it was part of their scorecard (which results in pay) to diversify the workforce. the wording was always funny as HR couldn't say "quotas" but their actions told a different story.

>> No.56959090

Uh…we control you? Lol.

>> No.56959100

Sorry, I observe Kwanzaa, fruit and corn and whatnot.

>> No.56959104

I should 3d print some shallower than safe menorahs and sell them on Amazon for a loss.

>> No.56959107

I'm the biggest bobo and Idc about schizoid nonsense.
Also the rate cut hopium is dumb.
No rate cuts will happen in 2024.

>> No.56959115

I only observe stupid jew holidays as market indicators

>> No.56959126

Why would you buy stocks instead of bonds if you think the fed is going to cut?
If they cut you don't know what stocks will do but bonds will moon. The only way stocks make sense is in the "higher for longer" scenario and even then you're sitting on 5%+ return.

>> No.56959151

KEK! My division has been laying off all the diversity hires this year because they consistantly underperformed during COVID and afterwards. My team went from like 30 people to 8. We're all white.

>> No.56959159

Same deal at my work.

>> No.56959160

My accountant and dentist are both Jewish and very bullish for 2024. I've told them I'm a non practicing jew so thinking they have let me into the fold (have some jewish features). Do with this information what you will, and let me know if any jews (YOU) know have similar thoughts.

On that thought, would it be worth it to go with my dentist to the synagogue to expand my jewish network? Might get more market tips and possibly a jewish gf.

>> No.56959164

I'll keep it on my JDAR.

>> No.56959168

Shill me a good bond I can buy as a euro

>> No.56959173

IBM records everything when they have people at this level speaking. An event email will go out to everyone in the company (in this case RH) and so everyone there was on this call, and then after the call, they got an email with a link to the recording. There's tons of this shit out there.

>> No.56959174

the fed cutting rates doesn't impact the long end, only short duration. future cut expectations are priced into the durations it does impact

>> No.56959205

Well yeah buying long duration bonds is a horrible idea.

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I'm kind of retarded and I have some money lying around that I want to invest. I do not want to micro manage my portfolio. I have been led to believe that ETFs or Mutual Funds might be good choices as opposed to trying to play individual stocks. Opinions on which way I should go?

Also, I tried finding mutual funds/etfs to invest in but I was overwhelmed with the number of results and had difficulty differentiating them all. How do you guys pick what to put your money in?

>> No.56959218

Buy T-Bills and then DCA into VT as they mature in the spring.

>> No.56959229

VOO/VTI are the standard
Just buy the entire market if you don't know what to pick

>> No.56959236

bulls make money, bears make money, but pigs get slaughtered

>> No.56959246

/smg/ likely has the highest net worth on 4chan outside of a handful of lucky bitcoin early adopters or actual 70yo boomers in /pmg/ who have had 50+ years to cummulate and random /g/tards who got into google as a SWE before indians ruined it.

>> No.56959256

Actual answer is that outside of the US fucking with Russia, the germans have no REAL reason to fuck with Germany and the Russians unironically do not have the troops to defeat Germany and Poland linking up and shitting on them (assuming American oil and natural gas supplies them) and the UK will obviously come too and so will France. Italy will hopefully not come because they are useless.

>> No.56959259

OK, *now* should I buy ASs To aSs?

>> No.56959260
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I thought it was frogs

>> No.56959261
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will someone please tell me that we're going to crash soon?

>> No.56959267

BaSeD. Is your company tradeable? I'll blow a load on it once I get paid.

>> No.56959270

The actual answer is that stocks will dump no matter what. When they want a dump it will dump no matter what. Did you see how oil briefly pumped into the OPEC meeting and then violently reversed despite a "favorable' decision to cut production? The fed can cut rates, it will dump because they will say it's "not enough". The Fed can increase rates, it will dump because it's "too much". The fed can do nothing at all and it will still dump the market because the market always dumps at this time of year because companies and hedge funds re-arrange their portfolio and take losses going into the new year, rugpulling high-buyers and taking profits where profit is to be taken.

It literally doesn't matter what Powell will say because the market wanted to go up last month so it did and now the market wants to go down so it will.

>> No.56959279
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Bulls Makes Money. Dumb Bulls who just thinks stonks goes up makes money. Smart Money Bears makes moneys.

Dumb Retail BEARS always lose money.

>> No.56959284

Okay see>>56959270

The market can literally go up for 2 weeks and then violently rugpull everyone for seemingly no reason "there's no news wtf" simply because companies and hedge funds will shuffle their portfolios and shit.

>> No.56959288

*looks at you*
*shakes head*
*walks away*

>> No.56959289

two wise old jews, Saul and Abe, used to walk together daily on lunch break to talk about life, family, and what have you. one day, the catholic church they often passed had a new sign out front. it read:
"Convert to Christianity and we'll give you $1000"
seeing this, they looked at each other, slightly in disbelief. Saul said, "Wait here. I'm going inside."
Abe was flabbergasted. But about ten minutes later, Saul popped out the doors and trotted back down the steps to his friend, looking peaceful, not at all upset.
Abe, still slightly in disbelief, paused a moment then asked, "So did you get the money?"
Saul says, "is that all you people think about?"

>> No.56959290

Italy already paid their dues by civilizing Europe, let them chill

>> No.56959293
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>because the market always dumps at this time of year
that's not true though

>> No.56959308
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Thanks anon. When looking up VOO I also saw that there was VOOG as well.

Should I just pick one and dump my cash into it or should I try to spread it out? I've heard lots of things about portfolio diversification is supposed to be good but I don't know if that's already covered when buying an ETF like this.

pic unrelated

>> No.56959311

The great thing about that chart is that it obscures the market being 1% up at the end of december, despite violently dumping, reaching a bottom in the first week of january and then being 1% up from the january first week bottom.

>> No.56959316

Yeah, IBM. Buy SAVE though, my calls expire at the end of the year and I want to get a little bump.

>> No.56959323

I already got some of those. PT 17.

>> No.56959331
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I'm quite sure it will crash in near term but I don't know when or from what level. Kinda looks like it wants to pump hard and do a very kino blowoff top type thing, nasdaq especially.

>> No.56959335

oil and natgas are traded in futures contracts, so their prices tend to fall at the end of the year.
the energy needed for the winter, the contracts that are actually delivered, have already been purchased 3+ months before. the world doesn't use as much energy in spring.
OPEC+ is full of shit, they already systematically under-produce their own agreed targets. the "cuts" are usually fake.
welcome to the oil market, nerd

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If you had a trading strategy, stock, or insider info that was printing you a lot of money, would you talk about it on /smg/?

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>> No.56959343

i don't have one that's any better than optionalpha or ITPM and you don't either.
you have one month of data there. try 20 years.

>> No.56959350

Buy VOO or something like it (SWPPX). Your holding 500 companies via that alone. Annual return is 10%. If all 500 of those companies go under, well money at that point is worthless to you anyway. (the whole economy/U.S is fucked;rioting has taken over,etc)

>> No.56959351

Based. Yeah, no idea what the fallout from this IBM video will be, first I had heard of it, but it's legit, and there's tons more out there, probably hundreds of hours. HR faggots love to be heard. Fucking making the rest of us waste our time not doing the actual work.

>> No.56959355

The purpose of some of these ETFs is to already provide you that diversification. But you can diversify your diversification if you want.

>> No.56959354

Yes but only anonymously

>> No.56959371
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my strategy is dumb and i have no problem discussing it because it sounds dumb and looks dumb and it still works anyway. all i do is swing trade tqqq/sqqq and spxl/spxs with an assortment of chart indicators on 1day candle timeframe. that's it. that's the whole thing. i take first partial profits if/when candles bump up against the edge of the keltner channels.

>> No.56959380

I already give away free alpha here pretty regularly.
The beauty of anonymity is you'll still find some retard shitting on my trades every time.

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>> No.56959394

Buy XXXX and don't even look at the balance until the 2030's.

>> No.56959400

damn nigger you are stupid

>> No.56959403

SOMEBODY shill me a call for tomorrow. Only news based please, i.e. it had very good news recently (close to or after close)

>> No.56959405

Crash starts tomorrow. Check em

>> No.56959411

I hate the anti-christ

>> No.56959421

Honestly can't believe ORCL crashed over 12%. And it's still like a third of a trillion dollars in market cap.

>> No.56959423

you can't handle the TRUTH

>> No.56959426

I'll just put this out there, but if IBM does have a shakeup from this, that could be the tipping point for the market. They're considered THE BLUE CHIP, and it's been said that their headquarters in NY prevented NYC from being a legit nuke target during the cold war.

Also they helped the Nazis. Pretty easy to slam this company with a viral campaign like the Jenner Pepsi commercials or Bud Light social media etc. I know Elon would love to meme IBM into the dirt just to get the IP they own (patents etc.)

>> No.56959429


Not checked

>> No.56959432

you're the VXX butterfly retard who barely broke even last Friday, right?

>> No.56959434

>the IP they own
and IP space.
FYI, IBM owns all of 9.x.x.x

>> No.56959444
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Sorry, but the premier mainframe distributor's time has passed. We are running the world on graphics cards duct taped together now.

>> No.56959456

IP (intellectual property) is what keeps IBM going, the rest of the shit we're known for is just window dressing.

>> No.56959460

ORCL is such a shit company but out of all the big tech companies them and VRSN are really the only decent ones lately.

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i....is soxl about to hit $30 again?

>> No.56959466

leasing or patent trolling?

>> No.56959473

take 50% of your capital and buy VOO or VTI (or SPY). Park the other 50% in cash and buy the next dip.

>> No.56959474

You can tell IBM is run by geniuses when they bought RedHat (a Linux distro vendor) and made it closed source.

>> No.56959478

i cant believe you bastards get away with charging me by the MIPS

>> No.56959479

I wasn't implying that was a winning strategy, or that I even had one. I'm sorry you're so insecure.

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>> No.56959488

How can I trade soxl? I just buy the etf and wait for it to go up?

>> No.56959497

sure why not, wasn't it the medallion fund who said something like "We could post our exact strategy to the front page of the WSJ and people would still lose money"?

>> No.56959498

December 15th Shit and Piss 500 465 calls mein nigger.

>> No.56959503

I hate to say this, but make sure you have a broker that will allow it first.
Not all of them do (Vanguard you cunts)

>> No.56959504

>Calls on indexes
No thanks anon, I'm not a brainlet

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>> No.56959510

Isn't their strategy just checking for correlations between everything and then watching for implied arbitrage?
desu that seems like it would actually work. Before I started paying attention I thought all this was pure noise but that's absolutely not the case. There's arbitrage everywhere.

>> No.56959512

>They're considered THE BLUE CHIP,
it isn't fucking 1950 anymore dude

>> No.56959515

how would you offer some random guy 2/3 of the price they ask for a shitty patch of land? would you simply tell them "I have $X, and that's what I'll offer"? would you do it in person?
would arguing about price, value and shit be considered bad manners or be seen as a shitty attitude?

>> No.56959524

Name another company that's been making money on AI for the last five years.

>> No.56959530

>I wasn't implying
you don't know what the fuck you're talking about. yes, you were implying you had one. you don't control what another person sees; that's how implication works. quell your fucking autism.
>I'm sorry you're so insecure.
now you are gaslighting, because you were being an idiot and have to backpedal somehow. grow the fuck up. i was giving you a dose of reality, not being mean.

>> No.56959531

Can somebody explain how that one redditeur in wallstreetbets made +4763% within 3 days on Broadcom calls (which "only" rose 16% within the last few days)

>> No.56959544

Also it's that time of the day to seethe about me selling Broadcom AND AMD calls on Thursday right at open. Yes, I'm not kidding, I missed out on cumulative 1000-1500% gains due to my paperhands

>> No.56959546

Lots of rolling is my guess.

>> No.56959549

he and the rest of wsb are our superiors

>> No.56959551

Leverage.. he bought short term calls. AKA gambling. 90% of the time it would have gone to zero.

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>> No.56959556

i'm not sure I know the founder had a phd in math or something and everything they do is based on math

>> No.56959559

Don't care :sleeping:

BTW... When (date and time in CST) will the judge give the ruling on SAVE ???

>> No.56959564

Google for one.
I'm still not sure I'd bet against them. You get these weird ceremonial social things that get stuck at the end of civilization cycles and that might be what's happened with IBM.
The combination of services and hardware they offer is legitimately unique as well. They had the horizontal scaling on demand thing figured out decades before we were born so a bunch of companies are stuck with their stuff the way new ones are stuck on AWS.

>> No.56959567

>he bought short term calls
How do these work and can I buy them in Europe?
I know you picked a random probability but if it was actually 90% then it's absolutely worth the gamble because the expected value far surpasses zero (it's +40k)

>> No.56959570

Nope. That dudes hilarious though. I respect anyone autistic enough to fight through multiple illiquid option spreads and eat all those transaction fees just to produce a breakeven play.
Personally, I only shill individual stocks. There's one being mentioned in this thread right now.

>> No.56959583

VT as mentioned earlier is about as diverse as you can get in stocks. Might want to add some bonds, but I don't know your time horizon, or goals. VOO holds everything that VOOG holds, and lots more. 507 companies vs 239 companies.

>> No.56959587

Stay strong, I'm still long SAVE, and my positions have been pretty solid, and there has been a lot more calls than puts lately.
In a commercial, mainstream method. IBM also has some of the smallest nm chips.
Don't sleep on real estate anon. That grip of addresses is what has kept the lab environments productive in testing things.
IBM has been downsizing their real estate risk substantially this year, and they're also changing their internal network infrastructure architecture to reduce even more latency.
Short Cisco and ATT.

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Your single has been acknowledged and noted. Green tomorrow.

>> No.56959613

Bros, the commercial real estate bubble is real;

I got back from a funeral for a week trip in Salt Lake City...and shit is fucked. There were so many goddamn office buildings that were put up for lease or sale. From medical healthcare insurance shit to office studios were all propped up. Entire city blocks were empty with lease signs.

It feels like 2024 will be when the giant bubble pops.

>> No.56959614

honestly his play wasn't that bad, it's just that he aimed a bit low and it wasn't the sure thing he claimed it was. I wouldn't even touch stock longs anymore, I prefer my heavy Oil and Lean Hogs bags at this point.

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When I look at my account, I always pretend every number is in thousands. So $3,300 is 3.3 million and my one share of KO is 1k shares and my Friday dividend is $460.

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>> No.56959622

My SOXL calls for Friday are going to make me happy tomorrow

>> No.56959624

>Markets say the battle against inflation is over — and the Fed won, per Axios

Didn't news channels do similar bullshit like this right before shit hit the fan and broke it around 2008? I swear its like history is a fucking poem, everything rhymes and repeats.

>> No.56959630

I could have saved her (but forcefully impregnating her such that she has no time or energy to commit megafraud).

>> No.56959639

Bobos are dumb money

>> No.56959640

Yeah it's called an exit scam

>> No.56959641

Yeah, we know. It's bull run until March (get out anytime between now and then, and don't get into knife catching). 08-09 was such a shitshow I've been wating for this.

>Friday dividend is $460.
For a $3M bag? What's the fucking point?

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>> No.56959658

Lol Utah is supposed to be one of the best performing cities right now.

>> No.56959661
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Shit. Everyone is buying. I need to get in now!

>> No.56959666

oh fuck me, its really happening again isn't it...

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>> No.56959670

Also the VIX. Iverted yeild curves. Japan fucked. China fucked. Jews and Niggers. It just takes time. Oh, interest rates, can't forget that one, or inflation. The fire rises.

>> No.56959680

I use interactive brokers... I think I can turn on the trading permissions. But please, explain it to me like a retard

>> No.56959685

Time is a flat circle

>> No.56959687
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No, 3.3 million is the total net worth, KO is only 56k for 1k shares paying $460 next dividend payout.

>> No.56959694

I just bought puts.
This fake and gay market can't go on forever.

>> No.56959700
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I think this +12% to -30% divergence will be resolved when the market quickly catches down to NatGas. In fact, I would expect that the NatGas price collapse will (almost) immediately accelerate with a day at -7% or worse, and then that should be quickly followed by a big market down day: -2% to -4%.

>> No.56959704

They were denying that this would have any affect on the world market when it was already sinking the US market. >>56959687
>56k for 1k shares paying $460 next dividend payout.
Still, fucking why? Divvies so tight, it's boomer tier.

>> No.56959705

Is SVOL legit? 16% annual return on your money sounds ridiculously high

>> No.56959708
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Join Burry's discord

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>> No.56959713
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>Vanguard you cunts

>> No.56959715
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I can't. My broker doesn't allow leveraged index trades.

>> No.56959716

pretty much yeah

>> No.56959721

>convert all of their single family homes into luxury section 8 BIPOC pod spacious 600 sqft "townhouses, instantly making the suburb into a buzzing den of diversity
>no longer own any single family homes and therefore don't need to sell anything
it's too obvious

>> No.56959732

fascinating. My savings are waiting to be thrown at the market

>> No.56959733

>Lean Hogs bags
Those aren't bags, those are gold.

>> No.56959739
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It is boomer tier, but that is somewhat why I own one share. Also they pay dividends quarterly, so it's like $2k per year on 56k (plus I'm up 10% since buying ).

>> No.56959751

That's not too bad. For a boomer that would likely pay their property tax for the year and they have enough equity for a mortgage loan to cover it while it doesn't really cost them anything to pay it back (assuming they bought it when loans were cheap).
Might be the basis of a good argument for the divvy fags, I don't check that thread, but that would have been a great strat the last five years. I'll revist that when the conditions favor it again.

>> No.56959766

Every other one is a false alarm though..

>> No.56959768

I'm fucking with SOXL calls this month and maybe I'll add in some TQQQ while I wait for Bitfarms to be $10
Meanwhile I have 200 JEPQ shares, what the fuck do I buy instead of that? I'll hold for 16 years and add $5k every year

>> No.56959769

lel sure, I'm down -6.7% on them so it doesn't feel that way sometimes

>> No.56959770

I'm American. What are you saying?

>> No.56959775

Somebody explain this meme to me.
I just dont get it.

>> No.56959778
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>Meanwhile I have 200 JEPQ shares, what the fuck do I buy instead of that? I'll hold for 16 years and add $5k every year
If you don't know the answer, the answer is TQQQ.

>> No.56959780

Are recessions really that bad?
6-9 month emergency fund easy as

>> No.56959782

amd is gonna go back down right

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You can argue both ways.
No, cause my TA would by scrutinized by morons using average indicators. Further, I would have to explain constantly who I learned it from and how to read it because it takes time to get to a point where you can just eyeball a ticker in less than 5 minutes and have a strong intuition about the momentum.
Yes, cause it's nice to help people but also boast about how good you are and get narcissistic supply.

>> No.56959792

>new investors talking leverage
>bobos convinced there will be a mega crash
This is the worse smg this month

>> No.56959797

Yeah. Not going to doxx myself, but even in a happening, fairly famous downtown area of a richish Southern California town, you can walk a block or two away from the main street and count dozens of empty properties, retail, office, and restaurant.

>> No.56959800

>id: Nig
Checks out.

>> No.56959808

People get all paincky and lizard brained, selling the bottom. Also layoffs can blindside a lot of people.

>> No.56959809

It's an old salt n pepa song zoom so

>> No.56959813

California and Florida are special cases kind of like Detroit in 2008. They're definitely fucked but it doesn't mean *that* much about everyone else.

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>> No.56959819
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how long have you been doing this strategy? i'm a firm believer of finding one stock that has a lot of liquidity then swing trade it long term. ive been swing trading this one stock for almost 4 years and have it down to a science. pretty sure it's just a front for some hedge funds collateral. no i can't share cause everyone will pile in and ruin my vacation money.

>> No.56959820

Come on, man, don't disrespect the dead like that. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps0MfBG5-Uo

>> No.56959825

>Every other one is a false alarm though..
Those are indicating the year start retard, it's not part of the graph.

>> No.56959840

Most of the US lives from paycheck to paycheck

>> No.56959851

No one would do it. Anyone that claims to have a winning strategy they want to share is a scammer.

>> No.56959852

I didn't imply that you weren't. And I wasn't saying anything important.

>> No.56959858

Based shigurui enjoyer

>> No.56959866

Fucking Walmarts are closing down for good in states near me. Nevada, Idaho, California...its happening.

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The perfect setup

>> No.56959872

Should I buy some bonds?

>> No.56959898

what rate and rating

>> No.56959911

I knew something was up

>> No.56959923
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>10Y above 5.00%
>I sleep
>10Y breaks below 4.20%
>today I will buy some bonds

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>> No.56959957
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>Oil going for $68.000000

>> No.56959976

My F250 gets 12 mpg highway I'm enjoying the low price of gas.

>> No.56959980

I’m this close to baiting newfags and bears with terrible shorting and options advice in the next thread if this schizophrenic end of the market faggotry doesn’t stop

>> No.56959986

Speaking of oil, in regards to the previous poll, niggers won.

>> No.56959990

the real economy is dead
all hail the new economy

>> No.56959999

You can do that, but you'll be called out and investigated. I'm all for it. More information is always good.
Buy SAVE btw, it's cheap now.

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A good point to keep in mind. Most of the US are also...

>> No.56960005

I did not pay attention to whatever happened at the last federal reserve announcement, i take it was something regarding jobs? Why is everybody so gloomy?

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This girl at work smelled really good today.

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Day 9 of this incredible buying opportunity.

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>> No.56960028

Women are on only fans, migration was padding construction, but the builders have stopped. I can only conclude more crime.

>> No.56960036
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The FOMC is tomorrow. Today was an in-line CPI release that everyone brushed off.

>> No.56960042

If IT pajeets get laid off en masse, OF subs will drop like a rock.

>> No.56960079

Anon, IT has been hiring pajeets all year to replace Americans and Canadians.

>> No.56960085

Like she had perfume on, or her pheromones smelled good as in she was reaching maximum fertility horniness? I've been sniffing women for years and have finally gotten the ability to estimate with decent odds the chance they are on their period, or if they recently had it or are about to. Kind of a nickle smell? Tough to describe but I believe if you work on it you can identify it as well. I have a poor sense of smell in general, but I've trained myself to pick this up.


>> No.56960116

Right, the recession isn't here yet. I'm only highlighting future vulnerability from a recession or cyber pandemic.

>> No.56960126

seems like by 2024 inflation will be dealt with, that´s nice

>> No.56960131

>I've been sniffing women for years

o great autist saint, impart me more of your sagely wisdom.

or is this info readily available in the rational male

>> No.56960133
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Just... don't look at the core number. And cross your fingers that oil keeps dropping $10/month.

>> No.56960143

I think a rate hike is a possibility tomorrow. Super lotto puts might be fun.
I'm a novice sniffer so all my untrained nose could notice was the perfume.

>> No.56960148

>or is this info readily available in the rational male
yeah, it just requires going outside
How does location of tech worker matter? If India got nuked we have more than enough talent in the USA to replace them for this shit, just cost more (or same, if nuked).

>> No.56960165

a few months ago everyone was afraid it would be above 100$, some anon here told me it wouldn't because saudis arent dumb and they are buying up assets in economies that would be disrupted by those prices. and it made sense to me, i don´t trust my government why would i trust some camel riding inbred bendoin absolute monarchy?
now i also figure that dumb waste of time, cop28, might be having an effect on it.

>> No.56960242

How does this contagion spread? Does it affect warehouse commercial real estate? I think it's pretty localized to office space, and won't have a wider impact.

>> No.56960259

Samuel Clemens pls

>> No.56960270

I honestly don't think I can actually describe it well, I'll try to focus on it. But you can notice somewhat of a metal / nickel (not even sure if this is a good way to describe it) smell on women. It increases before, maximizes at, and decreases after the menstruation cycle. Though most women have different levels of smell, so you have to smell the woman for a month or two to gauge how it changes to accurately assess the situation.

Young one, keep going. Like I've said my sense of smell is terrible and through hard work I've made tremendous progress. It also benefits me with other aspects of life, when I see a challenge I think of what I've accomplished with sniffing and it gives me a boost.

Yup, praise JP.

>> No.56960320

I think you are thinking of copper, or the smell of how a penny tastes.

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>I think a rate hike is a possibility tomorrow.

>> No.56960354

I don't know what the fuck OIL (ticker: AAAAAAA) is doing. All I know is it gave us a headline CPI many basis pips below core. Theoretically that cheaper energy should feed into the other CPI components over time. Theoretically.

>> No.56960356

It happens pretty regularly over there. And by regular, I mean like one person per ten thousand wins like that. The other 9999 don’t post much.

>> No.56960360

>How does location of tech worker matter?
H-1B, sir.

>> No.56960376

That sounds right actually. Much more accurate than nickle, which thinking more not even sure how a nickle smells, I've just been thinking coins.

>> No.56960379

Right into refiners pockets that are selling diesel for $2/gal ($84 per bbl) more than gasoline.

>> No.56960394

i fucking hate this shit so much

>> No.56960404
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>how long have you been doing this strategy?
Uh, around about 7 years give or take. The first three years were a bit of a disaster until I refined my strategy and stopped letting stuff like my personal opinion on the direction of the price action interfere. I trade leveraged spy and nasdaq just because those charts are fairly predictable and obviously liquidity is never a problem and still wouldn't be if my port were 1000 times the size.

>> No.56960413

yeah, I deleted them.

>> No.56960417

I hadn't checked but 1.8% chance isn't that small. For anyone that likes gambling, its a quality lotto ticket to buy puts.

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>> No.56960567

it should say "tenets", ranjesh

>> No.56960575

Oh, I didn't even notice that word in the jpg
I was focused on the frog

>> No.56960581

No, it absolutely is not. Maybe you'd have a case if core CPI shot up to like 1% MoM this morning, but the Fed deliberately uses Nikileaks to avoid surprising markets. Juking the bond market with a rate hike out of left field helps no one.

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the santa rally will continue until morale improves

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>> No.56960669
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TA bros...our response?

>> No.56960679
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Yea boi.

>> No.56960681

I have 330 SQQQ at 28 and the rest is cash


>> No.56960710

It's not our fault that we're directly told the economy is real and they hire actors to pretend it's real while it's actually a shitcoin.

>> No.56960713

Why isn't there a "Buy the Dips" strategy analyzed?

>> No.56960718

that looks good but i will make one at home thank you

>> No.56960747

I would have been better off selling everything and just closing my portfolio for a year Lmao

>> No.56960761

My response is that all indicators are mediocre on their own. You have to combine them to get something that produces clean and reliable signals backtested to meet or beat buy and hold returns. It's true if you're not careful or not very smart or TOO SMART and make opinion based decisions you will lose to buy and hold.

>> No.56960762
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BTD doesn't imply selling.

>> No.56960766

I'm not familiar with all those indicators, but anything that involves a moving average and a variance probably involves buying the dip; also buying the dip assumes you have cash sidelined which probably doesn't make sense for the comparison unless you specify when to sell too

>> No.56960770

if you have reliable signals why are you still waging?

>> No.56960774

Using just TA is like playing golf with 3 clubs.

>> No.56960776

>California is likely to see a $68 billion deficit in its next fiscal year as income tax revenue plummets, per Bloomberg

California is gonna end up being bankrupt like Detroit and Chicago. Wonder if Silicon Valley will survive?

>> No.56960780

SV will just go remote. Welcome to the 21st century.

>> No.56960799

all jobs should be remote to control inflation

>> No.56960801

all jobs should be remote to piss off Boomers

>> No.56960813

Here's what happened:
The Biden admin deliberately increased inflation.
And they're still doing it.
The financial establishment is having a capital buyback while the inflation dilutes out our fedbux.
Because they want to force us all into a union job.

And if you listen carefully, they'll just tell you that.

>> No.56960817

Isn't that enough? I don't play golf.
>something in between

>> No.56960819

It would help the gamblers who buy 0dte puts, AKA the backbone of society.

>> No.56960830

Yes, but not if you want to play it well. Or even respectably.

Technically true as they are a subset of gamer. But you still don't win a 1.8% Fed surprise bet 1.8% of the time, not with Powell.

>> No.56960862

take money to make money and i never had much to start with. my returns are fine and have beat the index in five of the seven years but it's not go quit my jerb kind of money.

>> No.56960889
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>ummm it just goes up because it just does, okay?

>> No.56960899

/smg/ is full of retarded middle aged divorced men and Baggie who have repeatedly tried to shill worthless scams to bankrupt me, so no.

>> No.56960904

I'm not in the oil market
Your dumps and pumps are pre-programmed.

>> No.56960918

Caliwali will just be 80% mexicans and 20% jewish/chinese overlords with a random smattering of white leftovers as the pajeets move to Sioux City (the silicon valley of Iowa) and the bulk of the white population flees to nevada which will become a bastion of the aryan race, while the blacks move to atlanta (they all move to atlanta) to escape the mexican death squads.

>> No.56960943

Someone was shilling GME here while it was at ~$4 around 1 month before the whole ordeal happened lmao.

>> No.56960959

is sioux city comfy?

>> No.56960963

Could you spoon feed me your methods? Mine demonstrably suck so it’s time that learn something.

>> No.56960973
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Tomorrow a blood bath isn't it?
I bought spy $480 calls 12/22 before close

>> No.56961048

>spy 480
spy is unironically finishing out 2024 at $500

>> No.56961053
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Jerome will save us

>> No.56961077
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Take a bunch of indicators from tradingview's assortment and backtest them to see which suck, which are okay, and which are pretty good. Have a set amount of price movement you always take partial profit at. This profit taking is important as it turns a lot of loser trades in to break even trades. Once you pare down your indicators to around four or five and you can prove they work over the long term in all market conditions you can start using them for your actual trades. Try to avoid the trap of your indicators telling you one thing, you thinking another, digging in your heels on a losing trade and refusing to get out because you're hoping it's just a bit of volatility spike and you will be fine. That's not fine. You will lose stupid large amounts of money. Even if your stuff says go long the day after you have just gone short you damn well cover and go long.

>> No.56961093

So was the cannabis free fall because curaleaf is going on the Toronto stock exchange? I’m buying this fat dip.
>MSOX went down 30% today

>> No.56961104
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I know you "never sell VOO", but if I'm reasonably sure there's going to be a big dip within the next month or so, why doesn't it make sense to sell at the top now and just buy back in later?

>> No.56961110

Thank you. I've started with MACD, stochastic oscillator and Bollinger bands. Buying and holding has destroyed me (natural gas) so it's not an option anymore.

>> No.56961116

Kek watching this video gameplay vid of GTA4. Dude makes a online dating thing to lure some gay dude to a bar and makes some crack "you never know what kinda sick fuck you'll meet online" then whips out a shotgun and blows the dude away.

>> No.56961120

Good luck, lad. Manage your risk appropriately.

>> No.56961130

You're supposed to buy more

>> No.56961134

We told you SOXS niggers this would happen and you fucks refused to listen
>muh decay
>muh AI is a meme
>semiconductors aren't important

>> No.56961138

Go for it. But define later in concrete terms. Bonus points if you tell us the terms/strategy that you use to buy back.

>> No.56961147

>quads wasted on SAVE

>> No.56961159

Based, also gta 4 was the last good gta made especially story wise.

>> No.56961163

buying and holding isn't meant for commodities.

>> No.56961168
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>I'm reasonably sure there's going to be a big dip within the next month or so
based on what exactly?

>> No.56961205
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>the weed reit is at 8.45% yield

>> No.56961211
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I get 420% yield from physical weed.

>> No.56961215
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spy bros.. can it really be so soon?

>> No.56961234

Just have an explicit plan and it's fine
>What do I do if I'm wrong and it keeps going up?
>At what price do I buy the dip?
>What do I do if I buy the dip and it keeps drilling?
>Is it worth the capital gains tax?
You'll also miss the Q4 divvy if you sell now

>> No.56961242

If I sell then I'm cutting my divys

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>> No.56961253

Kills single home construction and incentivizes commie block construction that hedge funds can own.

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>> No.56961258

What do you mean? It was 4,800 2 years ago. 12/21/2021. I guess you could say that I've been buying the dip.

>> No.56961273
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Hilariously after I pulled out of the market in Feb 2022 I didn't have a plan to reenter. I just watched in horror as it kept going lower and lower and lower. Thankfully I snapped out of it around August and started buying again, but on that really rare occasion the best course of action is to do nothing.

>> No.56961412

FOMC day is always flat, dump, pump after powell stops speaking

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>> No.56961728

Yeah probably since kikes are less than 2% of the population. Per capita tho?

>> No.56961757

>S&P 500 UP
wtf are you guys doing?

>> No.56961814

whats happening to the VIX? Somethings fishy

>> No.56962074

Short big tech. It's time.

>> No.56962197

>The financial establishment is having a capital buyback while the inflation dilutes out our fedbux.
elaborate, please.

>> No.56962580

It's like 3 or 4 countries away.
They did not take almost any major city. You think they can take Kiev, Cluj, Budapest and then Zagreb? I can already hear "U Boj" and Siege of Vukovar and Siege of Siget and Siege of Sisak and Siege of Dubrovnik imagery introducing good old Croat Catholic fanaticism
but by then there would be no Russians left since they would be dead somewhere in the east Carpathians