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56906433 No.56906433 [Reply] [Original]

Anons, what are you expecting from build partners? Can any high iq OG’s drop some possible numbers based on revenue for some of these platforms?

How long do anons think before we start seeing rewards?

>> No.56906470

>>56906433
this was rough math put out by another Anon.

>>56905417

She's looking juicy lads.

>> No.56906480

>>56906470
Ty very much anon. Any more autistic numbers to look at?

>> No.56908063

>>56906470
This is pure hopium

>> No.56908070

>>56908063
Go back to twitch nigger

>> No.56908078

>>56908070
No clue what that is

>> No.56908081

>>56908063
How? It's pretty conservative, ultimately.

>> No.56908082

>>56906433
I still don't know how these build rewards even work in reality. We don't exactly have clarity on any of this.

>> No.56908089

>>56908078
>link-fudding boomer
now THIS is embarrassing!

>> No.56908116

>>56908082
some shitcoin called Time and Space is one of them

>> No.56908141

>>56906470
That’s not realistic because build projects are not going to give you 3% of their tokens every year. Since the project is basically support for struggling companies they probably have a vesting period of about 5 years.


So, they give the Chainlink team 3% of their tokens/fees over the period of 5 years in order to get healthy as a company.


In reality that $40k per 7k link staked is probably $8k per link staked. That’s without taking into consideration that a good chunk of these projects will fail, don’t really need a token (they’re currently functional without one), and no one even knows when these rewards are going to be given.

I love chainlink but I’m not blind to the lack of information and bad price action.

>> No.56908160

>>56908141
Buddy if you think it's only going to be 71 projects you have a real surprise coming. By next year there will be more than 300. And it will keep growing until Chainlink decides they don't need the program anymore because the network is funded by usage. At which point we are all filthy fucking rich, even the 1k stacklets.

>> No.56908186

>>56906433
i expect nothing from the build program. the projects so far are either babbies first hackathon creations, link holder shell projects intended to siphon alpha about product completion, or token not needed businesses that need access to highly secure crosschain connectivity.
there is fucking nothing on the build program list that will pump like the rest of the space.

>> No.56908214

>>56908116
At first I thought this was bullish since it’s a project backed by Microsoft but then I found that it’s not really the main Microsoft branch investing in them, it’s just M12, part of Microsoft’s risk venture branch.

Most of their projects have been unsuccessful and they’re led by a woman and her team of mostly roasties, niggers and pajeets, which is always bearish. Take a look at it yourself:
https://m12.vc/team/

>>56908160
>if you think it's only going to be 71 projects you have a real surprise coming. By next year there will be more than 300
Is this hopium or do you have a source? And why would onboarding another 230 struggling companies be bullish when that means dumping more link on holders.

At what point does any company start having to pay link directly to node operators instead of paying fiat to Sergey and him using the company’s stash to pay node operators?

>> No.56908233

>>56908186
>there is fucking nothing on the build program list that will pump like the rest of the space.
Wrong desu. It's always the most useless token not sneeded scamcoins that pump the hardest. Linkies will get free shit and simply by being exclusive to link holders, degen gamblers and normalfags will buy their (my) bags.

>> No.56908244

>>56908214
>something is bullish because of who is investing in them, not what it does
oh biz

>> No.56908268

>>56908141
weak bait
POOLS CLOSED and you're in it

>> No.56908281

>>56908141
/thread

You dumb fucks think someones gonna airdrop you $90k in pajeet shitcoins which you can immediately liquidate. How naive are you

>> No.56908288

>>56908116
Yeah but how much space and time between us and those tokens?

>> No.56908299

I want to make a Chainlink-powered web3 app that uses zero-knowledge proofs to generate Secret Santa lists.

>> No.56908301

>>56908244
Hey I’m all for evaluating companies objectively. If you want to go that way, why would you invest in a company that can’t even pay oracle fees and needs BUILD welfare to survive?

>> No.56908323

>>56908233
>retard delusion

Heres another thing i want to point out…the window on massive altcoin pumps is closing. I realize a lot of you are prob 25 and under and therefore insane crypto pumps are all youve ever known from an investment standpoint, but you need to realize it wont always be like this. Do some reading on the 2000s tech bubble.

Imo we maybe have one more cycle of absolutely worthless shitcoins pumping and then the space matures and that becomes a thing of the past. Or maybe ‘21 was it and its already over. At some point, stringing together empty buzzwords along with a copy paste website for altcoin #999,999 isnt going to work anymore. So dont be suprised when your 300 build airdrops are worth $300 total.

>> No.56908337

>>56908323
people have been saying this since 2016

>> No.56908343

>>56908089
BRO lol you fundamentally DESTROYED that no pooler

pools closed LPL based chuddie kiddos stay winning

>> No.56908358

>>56908343
these posts are so boring and repetitive

>> No.56908372

>>56908323
Kek everyone point and laugh at the newfag HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>Verification not required.

>> No.56908379

Remember when anons were predicting the apy for staking and how wrong they were? The same will be the case for these build tokens

>> No.56908385

>>56908358
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
these posts are so boring and repetitive

>> No.56908392

>>56908358
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>56908385
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
these posts are so boring and repetitive

>> No.56908396

>>56908358
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>56908385
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>56908392
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>>56908385
>>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>these posts are so boring and repetitive

>> No.56908408

>>56908358
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>56908385
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>56908392
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>>56908385
>>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>56908396
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>>56908385
>>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>>56908392
>>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>>>56908385
>>>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>>these posts are so boring and repetitive
>>these posts are so boring and repetitive

>> No.56908417

>>56908379
I don't, actually. Remind me?

>> No.56908422

>>56908358
>>56908385
>>56908392
>>56908396
>>56908408
No poolers have officially lost their fucking minds KEK

POOLS CLOSED UNWASHED NO POOLER CHAD

SEETHING?

LPL

>> No.56908441

>>56908214
idk bro, but it looks like they're wildly successful to me, and they have the experts working on developing all of this. i don't think that this shit is just happening willy nilly, but planned and executed to a very technical degree

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>>56908385
>>56908392
>>56908396
>>56908408
>>56908422

>> No.56908471

>>56908441
>trusting le experts 2023
COVID 19 had more experts working on it and they seriously fucked up man like remember when they said it came from bats and pangolins? Like wtf is a Pangolin kek

And then they were like oh now we are deep cleaning the surroundings so vaccine not required oopsie you took it oh well thanks for the genetic material goy!

I spoke to many cleaning experts and they still to this day have no fucking clue what deep cleaning actually was

shout outs to the poor sobs who worked as walking hand washer dispensers kek

bring on COVID 19 VERSION 2.0 I am soo ready

>> No.56908474

>>56908441
>looks like they're wildly successful to me
How come a “wildly successful” company doesn’t have money to pay for oracle fees then?

>> No.56908489

>>56908465
Your posts are so boring and repetitive, loser get a life

>> No.56908497

>>56908474
Well the human trafficking sex slave blood sports game wrapped up with Epstein so elites don't have any money?

>> No.56908510

>>56908489
these posts are so boring and repetitive

>> No.56908517

>>56908471
you can't explain to me better that you have made terrible investments in any other post than this. you clearly do not belong here and are a tourist from a more retarded side of this website (pol donald trump general). lmaoing at your life, that your paragraph of mental illness lives rent free in your mind for 3 years now. take your meds

>> No.56908532

>>56908497
>le funny reply
Sure anon

>>56908517
How come a “wildly successful” company doesn’t have money to pay for oracle fees?

>> No.56908541

>>56908517
Uh oh vaxxoid detected. Human gene pool's closed chuddie kiddo what you gon do?

>> No.56908559

>>56908474
you're not asking this question with sincerity, otherwise it would show you have a low IQ, but i'll entertain you anyways as my good deed for the day. the hint here lies within your very question, but you fail to understand that anyone can plan ahead for future events to unfold. the build program is one of link's many geniuses, because they are exactly key to scaling the network. think of it like a decentralized web that link indirectly controls, that mimics the same structure of a large corporation operating many small branches and companies under a different name. the only difference here is the hands are clean, and innovation and inspiration can still direct itself, directly benefiting link. if you're wondering if the price will go down, you might want to ask yourself why the price has still gone up, with sergey shitting in your mouth occasionally on fridays

>> No.56908577

>>56908541
uh oh, looks like i indirectly btfo'd another passing by retard, thanks for letting me witness that i was correct, it floods me with dopamine

>> No.56908620

>covid 19 was ackually not a big deal guys trust these experts because ummm they work for bill gates who is really a great guy
kek this place has fallen

>> No.56908629

>>56908141
>In reality that $40k per 7k link staked is probably $8k per link staked.
>$8k per link staked.
I can live with that

>> No.56908638

>>56908629
>8k per link staked
>30,000 x 8,000
>240,000,000
so im gonna be stuck in 9 figure hell?
holy fuck i hate my life so much

>> No.56908676

>>56908620
forget about the last election year anon not this coming AI powered one LOL focus on imaginary build rewards with no set date and TRUST LE EXPERTS instead

>> No.56908679

>>56906470
Numbers completely off

>> No.56908693

>>56908620
Bill Gates did nothing wrong schizo take your fucking meds

>> No.56908738

The reality is most build projects are just the new run of shit scams using link for a free advert. We had it for years with price feed integrations of projects that existed for a week, we had it with the 59 oracle start ups.

Any serious projection of build rewards has to factor in that less than 10% will exist in any serious way and that's a substantially optimistic percentage going on previous partnership ratios.

Of the majority that do exist you're obviously not looking at an average marketcap of 300. Look at something like linkpool, that's an established project with interest by the link community and it sits around 4000. It's far more likely the ones that persist are of that level. So best case scenario you'll have about 10% of the build projects existing around the 3000-5000 market cap banding with market caps $5m to $40m.

If anyone wants to say the build partners are being held to a new higher degree then feel free to use to look at the social medias of some of the earlier announced ones Several already seem dropped.

>> No.56908841

>>56908559
>chatgpt bible
I’ll ask again. Why does a “wildly successful company” doesn’t have money to pay for oracle fees?

It ain’t rocket science nigger, no need to cope with a wall of text. They’re not “wildly successful”.

>> No.56908895

95% won't even be around a year from now lol but hopefully the few outliers like space and time offset it

>> No.56908898

I also have to imagine that post ccip we'll see more interesting shitcoins, perhaps even cross chain meme coins

>> No.56908908

>>56906470
How would you know on which time frame they would be distributed if we don't even know if the tokens supplied is supposed to be for one year or for lifetime of CL services.

>> No.56908942
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56908942

Stinky linkies.

I am a neet autistic who's mommy is about to kick me out to the street.

My response to mommy taking away all my good boy points was to make a crypto project.

I am using eth testnet but I have not decided on a chain yet.

Shill me a chain to use, I will try finish the app and buy some adverts.

>> No.56908944

>>56908541
Hahaha gene pool's closed

>> No.56908947

>>56908908
Standard is 3-5 years. Over 5 years you have to cut losses with underperforming companies.

Unless you think chainlink will keep subsidizing build projects indefinitely, which is an utterly shit business move.

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>>56908942
I'm getting close to finishing the project to at least some sort of version that can be launched even if as a shitcoin but the time is ticking... I even have most of regulations done, but this is also the issue...

>> No.56908963

>>56908559
HOLY COPE!

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>>56908950
I only have maybe 60 days before mommy throws me out, there is no way I can make it as a wagie.

The issue is because I have tried to make it a legit project I am fully doxxed as director of legal company and it makes me nervous that if anything goes wrong my life will be more ruined then it already is.

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>>56908966
so stinky linkies, should I launch it on link? Shill me why link would be best for my project.

>> No.56909010

>>56908301
It's cheaper for them to take the Build deal and have enhanced use of Chainlink services than to pay for each service on the nose. It's a win win as Chainlink also benefit by selling everyone crack and becoming indispensable. Remember Chainlink is a utility service and we're aiming for it to be the standard.

>> No.56909027

Guys the whole point of BUILD is just an excuse to still provide chainlink subsidised oracles. That way chainlink still says well you have to pay from now on but they know most projects are scams and don't make revenue. They do this to cement market share and keep dogshit competitors down. They want to be able to say yep we control 90 percent of the oracle market instead of 50 percent even though those other percentage points are just shit coins

I wouldn't get too hyped up about the tokens but there will be a few that probably make you some money.

>> No.56909040

>>56908141
>t. General access

>> No.56909057

>>56908323
Let me give you a piece of advice you 100% in Link autistic fudder. If anyone actually felt the way you do, they wouldn’t take the time to write a bibliography worth of words trying to make everyone sell. People like you actually made me start looking into link.

>> No.56909081

>>56909010
>Chainlink also benefit by selling everyone crack and becoming indispensable
Yeah selling crack to poor people, what could go wrong. Oh, now they’re dead!

>cheaper for them to take the Build deal and have enhanced use of Chainlink services than to pay for each service on the nose
It’s not that it’s cheaper, it’s that they don’t have enough money to pay for oracle calls. Once again, why would you invest in a company that doesn’t even have money for that?

Would you invest in a welfare nigger because they’ll surely be a doctor or engineer in the future? Kek

>> No.56909136

>>56909081
>It's not that it's cheaper
Yes it is. Are you suggesting that all these projects are signed up to Build and it's costing them MORE than paying on the nose? If you are then I'll just leave you there. If I was starting a web3 project I'd 100% sign up to Build. Stop being a shit fudder.
Also, Build is an unexpected bonus on top of staking rewards. Idgaf what they get me, my money is on the staking rewards; however I'd wager Chainlink know what they're doing more than your sorry fudding ass. No offence.

>> No.56909197

>>56909136
>Are you suggesting that all these projects are signed up to Build and it's costing them MORE than paying on the nose?
I’m suggesting that they don’t have any options. It’s not that build it’s cheaper, it’s that that’s the ONLY way they can pay for oracles because their projects are not redituable.

>If I was starting a web3 project I'd 100% sign up to Build
Of course you would, because you wouldn’t have any money to pay for oracles because your shitty ass projects would have no demand, same as 99% of BUILD projects.

Now:
1) your company wouldn’t even need a token, because you’re already working fine without one. So why the fuck would your token have any value?
2) if you gave 3% of your fees instead of 3% of your tokens, your fees would be shit, literal dust, because if you had a good fee model you wouldn’t need to apply to build welfare to begin with.

>> No.56909211

Pools closed, kiddos

>> No.56909216

>>56909197
Damn… so build rewards are really a nothing burger

>> No.56909478

>>56908063
Your post is pure copium

>> No.56909858

>>56908244
>>something is bullish because of who is investing in them, not what it does
The entire Western stock market has run like this for decades and is a giant bubble of toxic corporations ran by morons, propped up by pension funds and an increasingly waning military might.

>> No.56909862

>>56909858
no it isn't

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>>56909862
Pretty comprehensive debooking there, fellow Redditor.
Happy cake day!

>> No.56909931

>>56908973
you don't launch something "on" link, you just either purchase their services or you don't depending on the needs of the project

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>>56909931
Wait... so this whole thing linkies shit up the whole board with is just a oracle for shitcoins? thats it? It isn't its own blockchain or anything? Jus an ERC20 token?
WTF.

>> No.56909972

>>56909968
>shit up the whole board
Stop shitting up the board by saying "you shit up the board" a dozen times every day for years.

>> No.56909979

>>56909972
Kek. True that

>> No.56910174

>>56908693
>this nigger doesn’t know
>this onions faggot wants to eat bugs

>> No.56910966

>>56908141
>>56906433
>>56908160
>And it will keep growing until Chainlink decides they don't need the program anymore because the network is funded by usage


How is the BUILD program so difficult to understand?

Chainlink worked with a bunch of developers, subsidized their services and helped them grow and helped the industry grow at large. Among them, Aave reached $400 a token, total juggernaut protocol. However, how much money flowed back into Chainlink? NADDA, ZIP.

Fast forward to the BUILD program; They're still extending the same courtesy in helping other startups get on their feet with subsidizing the oracle services but now they're demanding they each pay up aka with a cut of their token supply (3-5% of their staking supply).

So where do us stakers come into play? We don't When Chainlink receives a cut, they'll be generous enough to commit to giving us and node operators a cut.

In other words, it's not about you, the staker. It's about the BUILD participants, the developers. The ones who are using Chainlink's platform to build the new Web which will in turn benefit you via token appreciation. So shut up about asking about BUILD airdrops and start supporting the BUILD participating projects and companies so they can reach product launch and find success.

>> No.56911105

>>56908942
>Shill me a chain to use, I will try finish the app and buy some adverts.

All of 'em.

We gotta start learning to use CCIP.

>> No.56911143

>>56910966
I love giving my money to sergay and his coon artist

>> No.56911275

>>56908517
>t. giga-vaxxed
Tick tock

>> No.56911314

>>56910966
>So where do us stakers come into play? We don't
Ouch. Get cucked stinkers.

>the developers. The ones who are using Chainlink's platform to build the new Web which will in turn benefit you via token appreciation
Companies that can’t even pay for oracle fees will make the link token go up in value? Funny man.

>So shut up about asking about BUILD airdrops
How do you have the gall to say this when the chainlink team owes their existence to dumping on holders? 99% of the company’s funds come from dumping. You are a cuck advocate.

>and start supporting the BUILD participating projects and companies so they can reach product launch and find success.
Most of them already launched their product, literal crap tier companies. Why do they even need a token?

>> No.56911318

>>56909057
>trying to make people sell

The fuck you talking about? I own and stake Link… you need to learn to separate your emotions from investing. This is not a sportsball game

>> No.56911359

>>56908973
Chainlink isn't a blockchain, but you knew that and are just advertising your gay project.

>> No.56911397
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Cointelegraph will now officially pump and shill our BUILD bags to the masses

>> No.56911434

>>56906433
knowing that their customers enjoy a good gamble, the chainlink customer satisfaction team came up with third party incentives to provide a rich experience for long term patrons. the visuals for the tailored webpages come from chainlink itself, but the promise of untold riches is provided by mysterious partners selected for their logo and appeal to the target demographic of 30 year old tech enthusiasts. i'm happy to see that you enjoy the experience crafted by the chainlink team!

>> No.56911462

>>56908738
Congrats, one of you dumb fucks finally gets it

>> No.56911519

>duuuuuuuuuuude STARTUPSs

Oh WOW another ALTCOIN!!! Man we definitely needed that! Do they have a cool ROADMAP!?

If somebody gives you 3% of something worth zero, how much did you make

>> No.56911694

So according to this thread BUILD rewards are a scam that only retards care about
Just like how they've been posting literally every day for years that Chainlink is a scam project
It's interesting how so many people on this board are so concerned about Chainlink specifically and work tirelessly to protect people from buying it accidently
Seems kinda weird ngl

>> No.56913234

>>56909197
I guess this guy answers your statements well
>>56910966
You spitting feathers about Build is wasted fud because Build rewards are a bonus. I'm going to be stinking rich from staking. If a few of the Build participants do well, that's a nice little cherry.
All good fun.

>> No.56913482

>>56913234

The point I'm trying to make is that BUILD is for the developers. Yes, we're going to be rich from BUILD. 70+ companies and counting (any startup without massive backing is going to go into this program.) are going to be committing airdrops to us. Even if they lock the BUILD program to purely who's in right now and 50 don't make it to product, that's still 20 airdrops we're getting.

However, it's not about you, it's about the developers. So please, stop supporting people complaining about not seeing any airdrops yet.

>> No.56913574

>>56913482
I'm not complaining. I was countering this guy... >>56909197
with this guy's answer... >>56910966

>> No.56913762

>>56913574
My apologies then. Carry on.

>> No.56914009

>>56910966
you're wrong though. paying out build rewards is what serg intends to do so he doesn't have to subsidize the network solely through his war chest of chainlink tokens.

>> No.56914302

>>56911397
>Cointelegraph will now officially pump and shill our BUILD bags to the masses

the alliance between the fudders, who are mostly gambling addicts addicted to various shitcoins, and the linkies who would benefit off the build shitcoins, will heal /biz/.

>> No.56915642 [DELETED] 

>>56908417
We were correct. Normal dividends are given in fiat, so you might invest in growth stonks or invest in divident stonks. But LINK pays stake "dividends" in LINK not dollars. So if the value of the network increases while you're being paid, you're making a steep compound. E.g. if you put in a 7k stack last year with an accumulation price of $8, then in one year your $56k investment is now worth $58960

>> No.56915657

>>56908417
>bad paste...
now worth $110550

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>>56908471
>Redit space
Covid had political experts working on it.
>reddit space
And they did visual stunts to scare people
>reddit space god I love spaces upvote all the space I take I'm such an alpha GOD but I love stretching out in public
You staked home and talked to zero people you scared bitch
>MORE SPACESSSSS
VIRTUE SIGNAAAAALLLLLL
>SPACEEEEEEES
MORE VIRTUE SIGNAAAAAALLLL!!!!!

>> No.56915778

>>56908559
Don't engage the shills, fren. They aren't rational. They're just mad they were hired so long ago to fud LINK, but never had the presence of mind to witness what they were looking at. You're seeing the final psychological spasms of a fool who was shown the light and chose not to see it. Imagine the pain of knowing the future, seeing everything unfold with a front-row seat, and the whole time clutching a ticket that says
>Pool's closed.

>> No.56915855

>>56911397
Genius xD Good find. I needed that spare hopium for reasons.

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>>56914009
I will meet you halfway in that BUILD was discussed in token economics 2.0 in the tokens committed to the network by the BUILD companies will incentivize growth in the Chainlink network. However, for the BUILD program to be a success, the protocols developed through this subsidization have to be a success. If they fail, those tokens are worthless. Therefore you cannot be some uppity investor demanding airdrops.

I don't see how you saying this makes my points incorrect.

>> No.56918513

>>56917141
You're talking to a shill. They're clueless. You're correct that the BUILD program is about incentivizing real companies to grow in the ecosystem. It's among the most effective anti-competitive actions ever taken by a cabal-backed startup. Nobody else is allowed to flaunt international trade law like this. We had 6 years, if someone ain't on the train they can sleep in the station.

>> No.56918769

>>56918513
>It's among the most effective anti-competitive actions ever taken by a cabal-backed startup.

Damn, you don't mince your words, do you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvJxjth9vtU

>> No.56918979

>>56918769
What's the deal with people saying that Ari is part of the cult of Demeter?
I would have thought he would be more involved with Cronus, given the Saturnine cult that the rest of them seem to be involved with.

>> No.56919026

>>56908160
>. By next year there will be more than 300
Bit optimistic no?

>> No.56919040

>>56910966
>subsidized their services and helped them grow and helped the industry grow at large. Among them, Aave reached $400 a token, total juggernaut protoco
Aave was definitely not bankrolled by sergey only. it was a massive project for years and link wasnt paid out for its funding.