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/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:24:18 2023 No.56854848 [Reply] [Original]

Hungover Edition

>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Live Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://exhentai.org/tag/character:Fletcher
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Options (do not trade these just because you read all these links)
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>Links for Dollar General Daniels
https://suicidepreventionlifeline.org/
https://bad-dragon.com/shop

>Calendars
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/calendar.htm
https://www.investing.com/dividends-calendar/
https://www.forexfactory.com/calendar/
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Misc:
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://finsight.com/bond-screener/corporate-bonds

>Previous
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>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:24:57 2023 No.56854858 the last thread didn't hit bump limit

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:26:44 2023 No.56854879 Dont do it Bayhorse fag

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:27:43 2023 No.56854892 File: 79 KB, 165x305, 1666638978424589.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm so fucking excited for Christmas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:28:06 2023 No.56854897 File: 862 KB, 500x281, 1701114750229131.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >"dude just hodl the moass is any day now just drs more dude it's gonna happen we're gonna own wall street no this isn't a cult we're just gonna break wall street bro"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:28:26 2023 No.56854902 File: 1.61 MB, 998x848, original_504517258.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] MARA chads, another +40% this week?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:28:42 2023 No.56854904 File: 98 KB, 983x694, 1699381441768075.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] bobo on nye

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:29:36 2023 No.56854914
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>>56854848
I've been telling you fags for weeks now--GET THE FUCK IN HERE!
Every turd, especially the dormant ones, will float to the top in a gold bull market. Multibaggers are found when nobody else is looking.
NGE / NVDEF
DHR / DCHRF
CRTS / CRTTF
Note that they all have backers with deep pockets-- the Higgs bros, Richard Gilliam and the Metals Group.
Remember what Rick Drule said: "There is a group of Canadian speculators who does nothing but look for inactive companies that are in the control of people who know how to make stocks go up."

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:31:08 2023 No.56854932 >>56854914 Look at that Quagmire lookin motherfucker. Only thing I'd trust him about is cracking nuts.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:31:49 2023 No.56854944 I'd like to imagine no one here is retarded enough to buy defunct junior gold miners.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:33:59 2023 No.56854970 REEEEEE I SOLD MY MARA CALLS TOO SOON

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:35:03 2023 No.56854981 File: 272 KB, 720x947, hahaha.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56854932 He sold Uranerz Energy to Energy Fuels. He could buy your sorry ass out 1,000,000 times over.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:35:12 2023 No.56854985 File: 2.83 MB, 654x480, 1682619897616372.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56854944

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:39:23 2023 No.56855059 >BTC now 40.7k Que the fuck?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:42:24 2023 No.56855100 >>56854848 COIN or MSTR? 7K to invest to make it big pl0x

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:42:53 2023 No.56855107 >>56855059 they announced the etf is coming the first or second week of January

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:43:33 2023 No.56855115 File: 637 KB, 696x500, 1643345686556.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Good luck this week!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:43:50 2023 No.56855118 File: 928 KB, 1200x1600, 20230514_194904.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] As someone that has a stake in gold and silver, don't throw your money at shitty miners that are down 99.23% and have been trading for nickels for years.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:44:24 2023 No.56855122 >>56855107 COIN or MSTR?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:45:16 2023 No.56855130 >>56855122 its the fidelity and blackrock one they are going to bypass the exchanges hilariously enough

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:45:43 2023 No.56855135 >>56855059 Black Rock and halvaning (or whatever it's spelled, I don't fucking know)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:46:24 2023 No.56855145 >>56854981 >>56854914 Fuck off jeet

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:47:13 2023 No.56855153 >>56855130 What's the ticket to see if interactive brokers let me buy it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:47:25 2023 No.56855157 File: 29 KB, 512x512, You_know_the_drill.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] THREAD THEME: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRAfKOeJmeo

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:48:37 2023 No.56855167 >>56855153 are you high all major brokerages let you buy etfs without cost

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:49:51 2023 No.56855180 File: 11 KB, 961x222, BOIL.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:50:09 2023 No.56855185
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>>56855118
>shitty miners
If you want max gains in a gold bull run, shitcos have historically provided the greatest leverage. It's easier for a shitco to go from 1M to 10M mc than for a goodco to go from 500M to 5B mc.
We're talking retirement in Japan type gains for shitcos.
>Be me in 2020
>Buy Carlin Gold at $0.005
>Sell at $0.06 in less than 6 months on no news
The market share for golds is so tiny that even a small fractional increase will have a profound effect on the stocks, not the least of which are the shitcos.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:50:19 2023 No.56855188 File: 1.04 MB, 200x200, 1701597129190098.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56854848 All I have to say is go all in on HA, search up the ticker and you'll see why

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:50:19 2023 No.56855187 File: 153 KB, 1024x1024, _914aa511-14d8-4be5-952c-3bcb4d8808ba.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] SANTA RALLY!!!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:50:38 2023 No.56855191 >>56855167 Ibkr doesn't let me buy BITO :( I can only buy COIN or MSTR

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:50:54 2023 No.56855196 File: 3.90 MB, 960x600, WHOA.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855107 >>56855135 If you don't have at least 50% of your net worth in Bitcoin or Bitcoin-derivatives like the miners, you are ngmi. Webm related.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:51:39 2023 No.56855201 >>56855196 MSTR?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:52:17 2023 No.56855207 >>56855188 There is no play there. It'll gap to $12 by open.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:53:12 2023 No.56855220 File: 1.02 MB, 2448x2448, show it nogger.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855145 >jeet Show white hand, nigger

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:53:20 2023 No.56855222 File: 158 KB, 820x790, 1651519932535.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >VIX futures

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:53:42 2023 No.56855225 File: 53 KB, 1280x720, 1613351363279.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855196 stop buying internet funny money. it is going to zero.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:53:53 2023 No.56855232 File: 1.97 MB, 740x388, TIMESAND___76animated.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google]

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:54:20 2023 No.56855241 >>56855207 :(

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:54:56 2023 No.56855250 >>56855196 Pl0x respond

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:55:10 2023 No.56855253 >>56855059 Cryptobros love their forced hype cycles.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:55:11 2023 No.56855254 >>56855232 wat

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:55:21 2023 No.56855256 >>56855185 yet none of the shitty coins you are shilling every thread have done that the last time gold pumped between 2018-2021 you are betting on something disconnected from gold to react to gold pumping

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:57:39 2023 No.56855288 File: 226 KB, 720x606, 1701508921959409.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855256 You aren't looking closely enough. Nice selective timeframe, too.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:58:57 2023 No.56855304 >>56855207 Isn't the buyout for $18?

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 01:59:39 2023 No.56855313
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>>56855201
Yeah MSTR is alright, but the ETFs are going to take liquidity out of it.
I'm betting big on the miners with a large HODL position, like MARA.

They produce nearly 50 BTC per day and will have more than 15,000 BTC on their balance sheet going into the halving in April. So this gives a miner like MARA 2-3x leverage over the underlying asset.
There's also an accounting rule change that's going to kick-in in early 2024 called FASB, which will allow companies like MSTR and MARA to mark their Bitcoin held on the balance sheet to market, which is going to give them a huge boost alone.

In addition to these tailwinds, look at the US 2-year treasuries going nuts. This implies money is flowing back into equities, and surely Bitcoin.

I expect Bitcoin to reach previous ATH by the halving. A correction in May to follow it, and +$100K late 2024.
MARA did a 70x back in 2019-2021. Expect a 20x out of them now.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:00:16 2023 No.56855318 File: 41 KB, 878x304, 1701654882044361.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855313

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:00:42 2023 No.56855326 File: 152 KB, 518x672, 6a00d8341c72e153ef01b8d0cafe1a970c-800wi.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855225 I don't listen to Der Boomer, but if he's recommending gold and at the same time trashing Bitcoin, he's got no credibility.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:01:46 2023 No.56855338 File: 679 KB, 1000x571, myinvestments.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] it just doesn't stop

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:02:30 2023 No.56855346 >>56855313 MARA is at 15 dollars a share, correct? How would you break up 7k to really make it in his Bitcoin bullrun?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:02:30 2023 No.56855345 File: 57 KB, 693x633, 1599272014750.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855318 >Boomer >Kike >Buy muh shiny rocks with an infinite supply >Armageddon SOON Lol Lmao

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:02:53 2023 No.56855352 File: 528 KB, 649x752, 1681488770086970.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56854981 Lots of people have more money than I do. In fact, it's possible even you do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:03:32 2023 No.56855356 File: 2 KB, 199x94, Anticipation.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855338 Stay calm. Remember your training. Gold and oil are closely related, if gold is going up that's a signal that oil will eventually do the same.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:04:12 2023 No.56855366 File: 23 KB, 242x255, 1698623102273312.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Where do you see the global economy a year from now? My advice, enjoy your last Christmas while the good times last.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:04:34 2023 No.56855375 File: 117 KB, 842x902, Welcome2 Nigga Town Sword Pepe.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855338 Oil's going back to those summer lows, hoss.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:05:00 2023 No.56855381
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this pump is predicated on the expectation of an imminent and drastic change in Fed monetary policy.
>a stop of QT
>a return to QE
>rate cuts to easily facilitate more debt creation
what happens if this anticipated shift in Fed policy doesn't materialize in a timely manner is anybody's guess.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:05:35 2023 No.56855392

>>56855346
Well I have $30,000 currently set aside.
I'm going to buy about 1,500 MARA shares and toss the rest onto Kraken and buy BTC.

You have less so you should take on more risk for the bigger reward. I'd go all in MARA, but only if you can stomach daily gains /drops of 20%. She's a wild stock, lots of hedge fund niggers jump in and out of it to destroy Rebbit options niggers. I see them get REKT daily. Would not recommend day trading it unless you're really fucking good.

Otherwise just buy MSTR, you'll be fine.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:06:01 2023 No.56855400 File: 208 KB, 1126x720, IMG_1940.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] OIL? OIL. GOLD? GOLD..

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:06:16 2023 No.56855404
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>>56855326
bitcoin is a decade old meme and gold has been used as money for thousands of years. he's a retard but you're even more retarded for claiming that removes ones credibility.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:07:44 2023 No.56855420

>>56855304
Would you pay $18 today for the hope to get $18 in cash a year from now?
I picked an arbitrary value, but SAVE has an imminent buyout from JBLU that's been stewing for a year now and still trades at half the agreed buyout price.

Perhaps HA has less legal risk, but it's more distressed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:07:55 2023 No.56855422 >>56855366 In the garbage can

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:08:21 2023 No.56855427

>>56855392
Hey man, thanks a lot for your opinion, really appreciate what you e typed out for me. I have 7.3k and 800 in btc only since that n'wah interactive brokers doesn't let you go all in into crypto and other platforms don't want to trade with Panamanian investors unless you have an American bank account.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:10:18 2023 No.56855448 >>56855392 Also I wouldn't day trade since I don't really understand it fully and those 8k where my savings in a whole year of being a wage slave. So I expect to buy now and then sell when the pop happens

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:11:49 2023 No.56855465
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>>56855404
Gold was a sound idea for money in antiquity, maybe even until the 17th century, I'll give you that.
In this century, it's hilariously clumsy, obsolete and has yielded people who held it for 100 years, close to 0% real returns.

No thanks Boomie.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:13:03 2023 No.56855478 >>56855392 You don't want to play SAVE between now and then? That's my plan.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:13:10 2023 No.56855480
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>>56855256
Two of my shills weren't dormant then, and one didn't even exist. You're missing the entire point of my thesis, digested here: >>56854914 and I provided a historical example that I participated in here: >>56855185
Try harder.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:14:09 2023 No.56855497 what is the best state to live in the USA in regard to the average wage and average cost of living?

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:14:10 2023 No.56855498
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>>56855448
Try not to sell until very late in 2024, like Nov-Dec. That's when things will get nuts.
I doubt there will be a dip in December, so I don't think you will be able to get it for less than it is now.
If you can hold, I think you can turn than $7K into $70-100K in less than 12 months.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:16:00 2023 No.56855519
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Well more interesting news about the proposed salary hikes. According to a report that was leaked in addition to the 6% and 4% hikes if they follow the recommendation in said report I'll get another fat salary hike on top of the other 2 based on the number of years I got in. Sliding scale type deal. More years you got - the more you get. Which for me will be 19 at the time this takes effect if they pass it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:16:12 2023 No.56855524
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Threadly reminder that Market =/= Economy. The Fed's job is to force nominal growth at almost any cost as nominal growth allows risk free capital return, this is the mechanism behind oligarchical parasitism. Earnings ratios have ballooned over the decades from monetary expansion, not declining rates, declining rates were merely the vehicle for monetary expansion. Real rates are always negative to zero under debt based fiat, 2022 was the bottom, all the money printed during the scamdemic is still here, earning 5% interest (printed into existence through deficit spending), waiting to flow back larger than ever
>Graph note: The Fed stopped reporting Institutional Money Market Funds as a separate series in 2020, hence ((Total MMF/1000)-Retail MMF's) as Total MMF's is given in millions of millions instead of thousands of billions and Retail is already included in m2

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:16:34 2023 No.56855528 File: 198 KB, 482x427, 1690128412935303.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >tfw Sunday Scaries

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:17:25 2023 No.56855536 >>56855497 New Hampshire.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:17:33 2023 No.56855539

>>56855288
>selective timeframe
the literal last time gold had a good long run you inbred faggot
should i look at their price from this november to now during which gold went from 1746 to 2100 and your shitcoins have not moved ? do you expect gold to 10x for your shitcoins to move a couple of pennies ?
>>56855480
so your entire idea is someone dumber than you will pump your shitty coins on literally no news for no reason at all and you will get to cash out big ? how the fuck is any of that related to gold moving, you know the second fucking sentence in your very first post in every fucking thread you illiterate fucking nigger
if your entire fucking thesis is "some dumb nigger will pump these bags for no reason" just say that and stop shitting up the thread saying gold is going to move your shitcoins when gold moving has not moved them once in their entire existence

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:17:46 2023 No.56855543 File: 72 KB, 234x225, 1655826777517.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855519 KO boomer you're such a salary slut

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:18:29 2023 No.56855556 >>56855555

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:20:38 2023 No.56855580
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All you really need to know in the BTC vs. Gold debate.

The reality is that gold is already being demonetized by Bitcoin and the trend will continue until Bitcoin takes ALL of gold's liquidity, about $15 trillion dollars. Which will put Bitcoin around the $400,000 mark ah think.

You've already lost shiny rock fags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:22:26 2023 No.56855593 >>56855497 New Hampshire.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:23:18 2023 No.56855603

>>56855543
Kek. In the good ol days they used to give out 5% hikes like crack every year. Didn't mater what you did, what your title was,etc you still got the 5%. So a dude could go in making next to nothing and doing next to nothing and simply let the 5% hikes rain down like crack for 27 years and walk out the door set up pretty good. The state would pickup the cost of health coverage to so you wouldn't have to fuck with any of that.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:23:43 2023 No.56855608

>>56855539
>>56855580
>cryptofag points to past data where bitcoin was great
>goldfag points to timeframe where gold was great
What's the point...?

They both have zero real yield. They both rely entirely on greater fools to pump your bags. Nothing wrong with trading a rational bubble, but if you're a permabull on either of them, you likely suffer some mental disability.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:23:51 2023 No.56855611 >>56855498 God, I hope you're right. That would mean I could retire and live a simple life to pursue my goal in this lifetime. Thanks, anon <3 I hope we make it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:24:10 2023 No.56855615 File: 138 KB, 897x875, 1665354555720957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855580 >the trend will continue until Bitcoin takes ALL of gold's liquidity

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:24:15 2023 No.56855617 >>56855519 did you invest on Verizon for it´s dividend? >>56855536 >>56855593 it says that the average consumption is about 56k, but about 32k are "All Other Personal Expenditures". what constitutes this sort of expenditure?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:26:19 2023 No.56855641 >>56855498 Placed 4.5k into MSTR and 2.5k into mara.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:26:23 2023 No.56855643 >>56855608 The returns come from fiat dying. Now tell me, will the USD in 2033 be stronger than the USD in 2023? Really? Really? Contemplate our future for a moment, anon.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:27:18 2023 No.56855655 >>56855608 how the fuck am i a goldfag for pointing out that a shitcoin like any of those junior shitters is not moving alongside gold at all and is a 24/7/365 dump i'd rather chop my dick off than put money in gold or any of the crypto ponzis

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:31:35 2023 No.56855716 >>56855617 Well that and the fact they're the provider we use.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:31:52 2023 No.56855719 What makes gold go up 2% on a sunday? This isn't normal.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:32:30 2023 No.56855729 >>56855719 Degenerate Chinamen gambling on lower Fed rates.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:33:43 2023 No.56855736 File: 42 KB, 828x207, Screenshot_20231203_183352.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855366 unironically tho >>56854830 been looking into sliver desu, picrel is not a good sign of things.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:34:02 2023 No.56855741 >>56855655 Perhaps I misread your post, but a stock is not a shitcoin. Words have meaning. Shitco is the term you're probably looking for.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:35:28 2023 No.56855757

>>56855539
>how the fuck is any of that related to gold moving
It's to do with market share, retard. Golds have a tiny market share, and only a fractional increase will have a profound effect on the equity caps. I guess you're too obtuse to see that. Stick with your megacaps and FAGMAN for puny gains compared to my retirement tickets.
My markets favor the bold and cunning.
No balls, no glory.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:35:52 2023 No.56855761 >>56855716 I did the same for Altria, figured if im buying their cigars might as well have them pay me to smoke them

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:36:34 2023 No.56855765 >>56855580 No shit one can actually work as a store of wealth while the other is a casino. It's like people don't even understand what it is that bitcoin is supposed to do. Can't wait for the crypto crash, I may buy some bitcoin when it's under 100.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:37:08 2023 No.56855772 >>56855608 Most companies have zero real yield. If inflation was kept at 0% a majority of companies would go under. Buying bitcoin is simply a bet money printing will continue.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:37:41 2023 No.56855774 File: 121 KB, 903x634, 1696603396007991.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855519 Based KO boomer my KO has been on a tear.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:37:53 2023 No.56855775 >>56855765 >It's like people don't even understand what it is that bitcoin is supposed to do. It's a store of value and a unit of account. Or, in forex terms, a currency with a pre-programmed central bank policy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:38:00 2023 No.56855778 >>56855761 I'd cash hard into altria if it weren't for their business of alcohol and weed. Too good to be true on mg part

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:38:47 2023 No.56855789
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>>56855741
with a chart like this, its a shitcoin
>>56855757
gold is up 20% in 1 month, none of your shitters have moved, your entire thesis is proven to not work already
if you are betting on a pajeet tier pump and dump for your shitcoin play to make money, say that and stop saying gold will do something when it clearly is not, you have an entire board with shitcoin threads, make another one for your shitters

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:39:03 2023 No.56855795 >>56855775 Yeah, the nasdaq is a store of value as well

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:40:40 2023 No.56855811 >>56855789 my bad, gold moved 20% in 2 months, not 1 month

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:40:57 2023 No.56855814 >>56855795 Can be, but its companies can also be taxed or diversitied into the ground.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:41:43 2023 No.56855819 >>56855789 >none of your shitters have moved Quit gaslighting. DHR up 80% in the past few weeks NGE up 16% on Friday

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:41:45 2023 No.56855820 >>56855778 altria is involved in alcohol and weed?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:42:07 2023 No.56855824 >>56855820 Yep

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:42:38 2023 No.56855831 >>56855778 i have no problems with any of that, only with the fact that´s its mostly owned by a bunch of investment funds

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:43:21 2023 No.56855838

>>56855519
Which I've seen them do the sliding scale thing before. That time they did a flat based dollar amount based on what your salary was. The less you made, the more you got. I expect something like that again only in reverse. The more years you got in the bigger the dollar amount. Which hey works out good for me. Cause as I said I'll have 19 in if this happens.Most people do 27 - 31 years. After that your benefits (pension amount) falls off a cliff. Working beyond 31 is a fools game. Some dude did 50, another did 40. The dude who did 50 well he lasted a month after retirement and they found him dead in his yard. Heart attack. If you start after high school 31 years isn't bad. Now if you wait, well, yeah that just sucks.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:43:41 2023 No.56855844 >>56855831 I have, from a moral stand point. But that's just me and I won't shove it down anyone's throat

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:48:01 2023 No.56855876 >>56855288 Kek Peter's gonna jizz his pants

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:49:11 2023 No.56855888 >>56855824 ah I see they made investments in them. nice. that was part of the reason I bought was if weed is ever legalized(doubt) they already have the logistics to capitalize on it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:49:23 2023 No.56855892 >>56855844 well, do you know any other companies that pay out a decent dividend with an history of regularly increasing them? thinking of cutting back on my smoke in 2024 and using that money to buy something else

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:50:34 2023 No.56855904 >>56855888 Who knows, maybe they'll capitalize on it. I really think its convenient for the political powers to legalize weed because it keeps people with a dull mind. But that's just my opinion

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:50:38 2023 No.56855907 >>56855497 TX

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:52:47 2023 No.56855928 >>56855892 I've heard of MAIN and ares capital (ARCC). Also look into Enbridge which is an oil company in Canada. That give some juicy dividends plus growth. Also realty income and maybe Vici? >T. Smoker as well Kek

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:53:36 2023 No.56855937

>>56855838
But realistically I don't expect it to happen. The 6% and 4% yeah that I can see. The rest of it? It makes to much sense. So naturally it'll die a slow death in the legislature. The report also wants them to change the retirement package for hires since the 2015 year. They'll can the report for that alone. It'd mean they'd be admitting that changing the retirement package was a failure. Can't have that. So yeah.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:54:23 2023 No.56855946

>>56855772
>look at all this other trash
>I'm going to keep eating my turd, I like the taste better
t. anon

No one is forcing you to buy an unprofitable company. Some companies do have a positive real yield and you could easily hold those. Buying bitcoin is a bet that other people will buy bitcoin. Nothing more, nothing less.
Google trends imply a permanent peak in interest from the general population back in winter 2017/2018, aligning with the last moment in time bitcoin staged a significant rally outperforming stocks or general liquidity.

Since then, it has roughly matched the performance of any high-beta stocks out there. Bitcoin is up 2x since that 2018 high. M2 Money supply has gone from 13 trillion to around 20 trillion. There are small deviations for crypto specific events like major exchanges collapsing to fraud - a regular occurrence in the crypto world, but the general trend is clear.
You can trade that trend, but if you think it's magically gonna 10x and compete with gold, you're delusional. Gold is a physical asset. It's something that major countries have been hoarding for hundreds of years. It's capable of being secured without reliance on a shared network. It's easy to secure at scale, and the players interested do not care about liquidity of exchanging it because the point is long term, truly long term, preservation.

To be fair, there are plenty of bitcoin maxi cultists out there and that is why bitcoin will remain in the ballpark of $1 trillion of interest, scaling to any continued USD printing into the future. But the real money comes from trading the trend. And you don't even need to trade bitcoin to generate most of the same alpha - since it trades in sync with other duration assets.
Even bitcoin miners are essentially just an option on bitcoin.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:54:37 2023 No.56855949 >>56855888 Trump legalized weed with the Farm Bill.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:54:50 2023 No.56855951 File: 52 KB, 518x453, Totally legit election results.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] We're getting our Guyana War, boys! LFGGGGGG

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:56:34 2023 No.56855965

>>56855819
>dhr up 80%
yea cuz of your retarded ass buying probably
nge is up 16% where ? https://www.allpennystocks.com/stockquote/nvdef/detailedquotetabchartnews/ shows a high of 0.1002 which is not a valid price and it is still valued at 0.10
crts flat
3 literal pajeet scams that you are trying to shill as something that is related to gold, throw some more rupees at them

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:57:17 2023 No.56855974 >>56855951 >Ukraine war >Israel war >Venezuela war >impending Ethiopia war and they said electing a senile president wouldn't be a problem

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:57:31 2023 No.56855976

>>56855904
I have no opinion on it, people will always have vices why shouldn't I profit from it?
>>56855949
no, I mean like California style legalization. As long as its a schedule I and banks don't accept businesses money from it it's basically illegal

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:58:56 2023 No.56855990
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I predict WW3 will be caused over stocks and their companies like endgame capitalism is driving us all insane. We have GME and bedbath beyond generals years later. Like coke vs pepsi but shit gets weird where you look on the news that some CEO of a company was publicly killed by some goons at some other company rivaling them in a way that the murder is like ex prime minister abe. Globalism and government fades away and you see things like walmart and target employees engaging in full blown street warfare cause their respective companies are buying blocks of land and making their own private housing districts and occupying them with people that would support their own businesses cause advertising got so out of control.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:58:59 2023 No.56855991 File: 38 KB, 720x191, nge.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855965 >nge is up 16% where ? God, you're retarded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:59:16 2023 No.56855995 >>56855951 lol, we eased sanctions on those people to get their oil on the market and now they are going to probably wind up destroying billions of dollars worth of new oil infrastructure and investments

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:59:22 2023 No.56855996 >>56855976 The literal product is, but refined it's legal. Work the process anon, imagine if it was dino fuel in the earth.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 02:59:46 2023 No.56856000 File: 46 KB, 604x528, Cyberpunk 2077.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855990 Unfortunately the world is not nearly as based and cyberpunk as that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:00:45 2023 No.56856002 >>56855990 >the murder is like ex prime minister abe fuck, forgot about that.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:02:30 2023 No.56856012 >>56855965 >Can't even look up a stock symbol >Opinion discarded

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:04:30 2023 No.56856028 File: 238 KB, 1440x1724, 1696880776468194.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855951 Hell yeah pump my bags.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:04:56 2023 No.56856036 >>56855965 And you still haven't shown your white hand as I have >>56855220

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:06:03 2023 No.56856049 >>56855928 ARCC seems like a very good one.. say, is it even possible to use leverage to buy dividend stocks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:06:22 2023 No.56856057 File: 50 KB, 800x419, 800.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855990 >The future is corpo The Warriors Sounds gay and cyberpunk.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:07:50 2023 No.56856077

>>56855991
funny how other exchanges don't show that price
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/nvdef
https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/NVDEF/overview
can you show what your broker shows as the price of nge ? the tmx or nasdaq / otcmkts price ? thats whats important as that is what you can sell at

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:09:22 2023 No.56856091 File: 679 KB, 2000x1334, IMG_4330.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Mandatory FUCK JACK MA I will pour GASOLINE on JACK MA and use my WORTHLESS CALLS AS KINDLING to LIGHT HIM ON FIRE (in Minecraft, of course) My calls are in the TOILET

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:09:31 2023 No.56856093
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>>56856000
You could say that but are we really that far off at this point? Its becoming impossible for a lot of companies to try to hit a global neutral audience when advertising and a lot of the companies are so goddamn big they could get away with a lot of shit. Customers at costco are far different from the customers at target. Customers at companies this big are so loyal its borderline cults, the employees at companies this big are also pretty damn SOL and would tow the line for anything too. Hell you got alliances of microsoft and fedex. Imagine a future where fedex workers are pulling guns on amazon delivery drivers and fedex is not afraid of it cause microsoft can blackmail the feds with their cloud.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:10:24 2023 No.56856104 File: 72 KB, 1200x897, Kevin-Spacey-Charged-Felony-Sexual-Assault.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856093 Remember that barely veiled threat video Kevin Spacey released? What's he been up to?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:10:33 2023 No.56856106 >>56856077 No point replying to a shill. Volume on those turds is $200 a day. For an extra $20, you can create the illusion of a 10% gain.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:12:15 2023 No.56856125 File: 187 KB, 588x537, Kevin Spacey shadow mustache.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856104 Unfortunately we're talking at least 3 weeks before another Christmas video: https://www.youtube.com/user/kevinspacey

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:13:46 2023 No.56856131
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>>56856077
I trade my shitcos on the TSXV due to better liquidity. OTC and TSXV are completely different exchanges. One doesn't necessarily reflect the other. You're revealing your idiocy more and more. Maybe you should get a professional account on a real trading platform other than RH.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:13:51 2023 No.56856132 File: 39 KB, 357x357, 1629075086058.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >BREAKING: PRESIDENT BIDEN DEPLOYING US ARMY PSYOPS BATTALIONS TO THE NASDAQ STOCK EXCHANGE

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:14:05 2023 No.56856136

>>56856106
$200 a day might be optimistic, nasdaq volume for nvdef is 130 and otcmkts is another 100, thats $23 for the entire day of friday that people dedicated to this shitter
pajeet anon and his village can unironically create the illusion of a pump

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:15:56 2023 No.56856150

>>56855946
I dont know what to tell you, but your analysis is wrong. Youre measuring current price to the last peak. It doesn't require new participants. If 5% of the population keeps 5% of their networth in bitcoin it will grow with money supply. New participants make it grow exponentially.
Gold has been irrelevant for the last fifty years. If you think that trend will magically change without a catalyst you are delusional.
Even good companies are incredibly wasteful. The stock market as a whole would be way down since 2008 if it wasnt for irresponsible monetary policy. Bitcoin has always been a bet that this policy will continue. Even after peak interest is reached it will continue to grow with money supply because that is what it is designed to do.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:16:41 2023 No.56856155

>>56856131
if you trade them there then post a screenshot of your trade log that you bought from that exchange anon
post a screenshot of your position in your account that shows the current price of your shitcoin
so many ways to prove what your shitcoins are really worth according to your broker and you post a screenshot of the price of one exchange which i'm betting you did not set your broker to use

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:18:07 2023 No.56856165 >>56854848 WOO, MID-CAP OIL BAYBEE!!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:19:30 2023 No.56856180 File: 35 KB, 386x274, fuck you.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856155 Now go fuck yourself, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:19:59 2023 No.56856184 >>56856136 >$23 shitco miner’s stock gets $23 of volume daily Fucking kek How poor is this street shitter?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:22:22 2023 No.56856213 >>56856180 read again what i am asking for and stop posting the shared account of your entire village

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:22:34 2023 No.56856218 File: 259 KB, 720x1222, get fucked.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856155

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:23:03 2023 No.56856227 File: 236 KB, 1024x1024, 1694130073509.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I've invested so much money its unreal here's an anime girl to prove it

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:24:05 2023 No.56856235 >>56856184 >>56856213 Show white hands, niggers, like here:. >>56855220

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:24:50 2023 No.56856242 File: 94 KB, 520x468, 1684509109336098.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856227 >$999,999 cost basis >$1,000,000 proceeds

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:27:17 2023 No.56856268

>>56855965
A fuckton of shitcos are up 30-50, a couple 100%, in the past 2-3 weeks, please shut the fuck up, don't listen to this moron.
Research your stocks, don't buy a 1-4 cent stock that's been active for 10-20 years, but this guy is wrong.
Research.
Research.
Research.
Research.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:28:37 2023 No.56856282

>>56856136
You're making my point about these shitcos. If CAD$2,175 can move the fucker 16%, then what can a $10k do? It's all about market share but you retards can't imagine a world out with FAGMAN and megacaps. Enjoy your puny gains while I'm fucking 10/10 in Japan with my gains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:30:54 2023 No.56856299 File: 1.88 MB, 590x720, 1673119869288641.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] has anyone used AI to determine good stock picks?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:32:07 2023 No.56856310 >>56856268 >active for 10-20 years The entire point is in picking dormant companies with heavy backers. This is a niche. If you don't have the stomach for it, then stick with your ETFs or megacaps.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:32:10 2023 No.56856313

>>56856150
>New participants make it grow exponentially.
There is less interest. There are participants that are no longer participating. Some may have bought the hype and then sold like retards, others perhaps trusted exchanges like retards. None of them are ever coming back.
And if you cut out all the retards that can't handle self-custody off off-exchange crypto, all you're left with are a few million tech autists wash trading amongst each other.

Once again your core logic in this reply seems to be that you've accepted mediocrity. Whatever. You do you.
In 10 more years when bitcoin has traded flat/down in real terms against inflation, I'll think back to conversations like this and keep on laughing, as I have these past 5 years.
Decaying fiat makes everyone feel like a genius.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:32:44 2023 No.56856319 redpill me on after hours futures

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:34:37 2023 No.56856336 >>56856319 options are playing with fire, futures are playing with nuclear fuel rods

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:35:41 2023 No.56856343 File: 192 KB, 660x897, 1701618866671667.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How much longer can WMT realistically outperform TGT? Should I all in Target at open bullseye bros?

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:35:55 2023 No.56856349

>>56856282
congratz on using ibkr as your broker, that does show canadian exchanges and can route your trades through them
you can make a shitcoin like this look like it moved for cheap as no one is trading it and then you try to dump it on someone like the clever pajeet that you are, the problem is that you dont have the capital to make this pump and dump which is why you are here begging other people to do it for you
at least one more problem that your pajeet hands are facing is that you might get people invested in the exact opposite and your fake pump ends poorly
again, if you are going to create a pump and dump do that, don't say something will move to gol when historically it never has
>>56856268
>other shitcoins are up
>therefore these 3 shitcoins that have not had a move related to gold in the past will suddenly have one now because my friend from the village said there will be one
amazing job anon, please tell me more

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:36:38 2023 No.56856357 >>56855318 >BTC to zero in two weeks, trust the plan! It's hilarious how poorly goldbugs understand money, given that even now, with no country using gold as money, almost all of gold's value is still monetary in nature.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:36:46 2023 No.56856360 File: 989 KB, 1200x1200, DvwTo9jWwAMppNn.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856319 Sometimes stock markets in other parts of the world matter, most of the time they don't.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:40:00 2023 No.56856397 >>56856343 WMT is for the impoverished masses, Target is for the slowly eroding lower middle class that hasn't quite fallen into the first group yet. WMT is the better bet for the next 5 years at least.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:41:20 2023 No.56856409

>>56856349
Funniest part is knowing that it'll take an entire month of volume and in all likelihood a 70% loss for our resident shill to dump his own bags.
And that's only with $4k worth. Liquidity cuts both ways.

Explains why he's so desperate to trigger a pump.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:42:44 2023 No.56856421 File: 104 KB, 1000x1000, 1667421740515707.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856397 Uh who is Kroger for? Asking for a friend.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:44:24 2023 No.56856439
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>>56856349
Still waiting for you to post white hands, but I know you won't because you are a nigger.
You don't follow the junior golds and therefore you don't see what is happening. You're fucking blind.
Like most of this general, you'll pile in when 90% of the move is over, then bitch and complain about gold shitcos being a bad investment, etc.
You can't even look up a quote ffs.
As far as my liquidity, see picrel.
Get fucked.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:44:52 2023 No.56856444 >>56856421 KR is for middle class wagies that gave up on COST ambitions.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:51:39 2023 No.56856519
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>>56855608
Equities total return since '71 has been 180x, but over 40x of that was just momentary expansion, the simple reality is that an inverse of monetary expansion without liquidation risk, volatility decay or counterparty risk is an amazing asset, and until BTC reaches full capitalization (whatever that is) it will act as a LEVERAGED inverse of monetary expansion, without liquidation risk, volatility decay or counterparty risk

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:51:53 2023 No.56856521 >>56854848 I funded my whole 2023 Roth IRA with Hawaiian Air at under 8 per share and they are being bought out by Alaskan Air at 18 per share.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:52:55 2023 No.56856532 File: 675 KB, 800x878, 1682350947398207.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856444 Hey, that's me!

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:55:21 2023 No.56856559 >>56856310 Right, GDXJ for example. I think the guy arguing with you just doesn't understand at all.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:55:32 2023 No.56856561 File: 2.03 MB, 1024x1408, 1680535006859101.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856444 Digits of truth

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:57:03 2023 No.56856573 File: 371 KB, 1297x879, DEC01.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56855641 Right on fella. wagmi Here's my Friday closing gains.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:59:11 2023 No.56856590

>>56856439
i wont post a picture of my hands as i really do not care what some pajeet thinks of me, the only thing that i am interested in is pointing out that your shitters will not move in relation to gold as they historically never have
stop telling me how something that has never happened will suddenly happen beacuse you started to shill it, there is nothing that you have posted that points to gold going up will mean that what you are shilling will go up, gold hits its 52w high but your garbage is nowhere
i dont look up quotes outside of a few us stock exchanges, i dont feel bad about it as i dont really care about vast majority of the world's stock market
you are posting your net liquidation value, that is not the same as the lack of liquidity in the underlying (aka your 3 shitters that you are shilling every thread), if you had half a million in something that is worth $0.1 and a daily volume of 5k it would take you 10 days where your selling is the entire volume for that security to sell everything you have and you will probably bring the price down quite a few percent along the way
and i can guarantee you, my dick on the line, i will not put a dollar in any one of these 3 shitters no matter how much you and your village pump them as all i see is a pump and dump and i'm not interested in that

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 03:59:29 2023 No.56856594 File: 215 KB, 482x722, 1700506518958675.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Thoughts on Benton ressources ? I dont wanna miss LE GOLD BULLRUN

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:01:24 2023 No.56856605 File: 16 KB, 320x320, 1622886972732.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856590 gimmie a tl;dr bro

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:01:25 2023 No.56856606 I think puts are better than calls.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:01:56 2023 No.56856609 >>56855366 Mega green because I'm not in the market

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:05:24 2023 No.56856631 >>56856606 Depends on the ticker.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:05:29 2023 No.56856633

>>56856605
>tl;dr don't trust anyone who spams the thread they're running a PnD and ban evading
Every now and then good things get posted in the thread but non-frens know this and want to use anons to enrich themselves as opposed to enriching fellow anons.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:05:57 2023 No.56856637 File: 34 KB, 750x749, 1620323004796.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856609 >I'm not in the market What are you waiting for nigger? Have you not seen the fucking 2-year treasury charts? RISK ON BITCH NIGGER

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:06:47 2023 No.56856643 File: 210 KB, 600x453, 1655301193260.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856637 That's the spirit!

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:06:56 2023 No.56856647

>>56856605
the other anon is trying to create a pump and dump on some cheap gold junior miners saying that gold having a bull run will bring them out of the gutter
2018-2021 gold had a solid long bull run, they did not move with it but this time will be different because now we all buy it and it is totally not a pump and dump
his second hope is the owners triggering a pump and dump because one of the companies had a random big move in 2020 that he himself cannot explain yet he believes will happen again
i dont mind people trying to run a pump and dump, just be up front about it

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:09:37 2023 No.56856673

>>56856590
>stop telling me how something that has never happened will suddenly happen
I've provided you personal examples but you chose to ignore them.
>i will not put a dollar in any one of these 3 shitters
No skin off my back.
This anon is right >>56856559 The entire concept of market share and dormancy is beyond your ken. Stick with ETFs, nigger.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:09:54 2023 No.56856674 >>56856637 The market has never moved my way so I gave up all participation. If I go in again I will 100% get burned and start the market crash

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:12:12 2023 No.56856692
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>>56856519
>another bitcoin fag
>can only reference pre-2018 perf.
>argument is that SOME of stock gains were due to money supply, therefore ALL gains are worthless
>does not understand the concept of compounding positive real returns
lmao. Every time. Same exact flawed logic.

Funniest part is knowing the odds that statistically 9 out of every 10 cryptobros I debate entered the game post 2018 peak. They missed the true life changing gains and now they're desperately praying to win their own bag. Must be so depressing to read something that destroys that grand fantasy, knowing there's no legitimate counterarguments to be made.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:18:53 2023 No.56856733 Golds bull run is incredible though after Palestine.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:19:49 2023 No.56856741

>>56856673
personal examples do not matter when you are arguing that 3 companies that have historically not followed the price of gold will suddenly do it
- that is the literal point in your first post in every thread
please don't tell anyone how they don't understand basics in the market when people say your stocks lack liquidity and your reaction is to post your net liquidation value
flat out say you want smg to pump your bags so you can dump them and make a buck, you might have better odds of it happening

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:21:44 2023 No.56856755 >>56856673 This is just getting embarassing now. Samefagging is a new low.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:33:31 2023 No.56856841 File: 489 KB, 960x662, Peter Lynch thinking face.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856733 Why the fuck would Palestine matter for gold?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:33:56 2023 No.56856844 >>56856674 in that case crash the mfer and do not delay

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:34:47 2023 No.56856849
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>>56856692
>90%
>some
Since '71 the real total returns have only been 4x, that's cumulative, most of that real return has been dividends, so holding a basket of the broad market wouldn't even return 4x given tax drag. Again, even after full capitalization BTC's value is guaranteed as an inverse of monetary expansion without liquidation risk, volatility decay or counterparty risk is an AMAZING asset, and until full capitalization, it will act as a LEVERAGED inverse, again without without liquidation risk, volatility decay or counterparty risk. If you don't see the value in BTC you are beyond saving, a complete slavemind wagie debtslave to the bone.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:37:57 2023 No.56856874 >>56856849 >4x is lame >I'd rather have a 1x Cool. Thanks for repeating your position, in case it wasn't clear enough before.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:42:57 2023 No.56856902 What should I invest in to not be poor when I retire in 30 years?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:52:38 2023 No.56856961 help a retard out (me) if i want to trade CME/futures market what broker should i use?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:57:21 2023 No.56856996 File: 39 KB, 720x390, 1672036355353.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56856902 whatever tickers these broken english using mfers are shilling haha

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 04:59:12 2023 No.56857013 >>56856961 there's a bunch just google discount futures brokers. tradovate, amp, etc. keep in mind you have to pay a fee each trade and pay for data. also holding overnight you need to have a lot more margin, for ex. 12k for 1(one) ES contract

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:07:02 2023 No.56857088 >>56856902 Simple: 100% UPRO. Buy every paycheck, don't look at the account balance until the 30 years have passed, do nothing else ever.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:08:48 2023 No.56857105 if the company has a marketcap under $500M, i buy. simple as

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:09:10 2023 No.56857106 File: 1.89 MB, 400x400, Oh shit what the fuck Idris Elba.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >WTI 73.54 >-0.53 >(-0.72%)

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:12:02 2023 No.56857139
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>>56856874
Dullard. First, we're still 100x away from full capitalization. Second, you view equity gains as real and BTC's gains as abnormal and therefore empty speculation. When in reality almost equity gains are mere monetary expansion, BTC, as an investment, does what growth stocks do better. Third, you view -1x monetary expansion as poor returns, while bonds have returned far BELOW monetary expansion, and gold has a very long cycle length (20-30 years), -1x monetary expansion with a 4 year cycle is fantastic.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:12:30 2023 No.56857146 >>56857088 I honestly want to do this but I'm scared. Should I just ape $1k a month in god damn UPRO? I had 100% UPRO for my kid's account, I switched it to JEPQ, 16 more years for that account

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:25:43 2023 No.56857285 >>56857146 DCAing into LETFs is a pretty conservative play, you remove all the catastrophic failure risk that the midwits harp endlessly about as you net the average price of the instrument over your DCA period

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:27:05 2023 No.56857295 >>56857146 If the S&P crabs or pulls a Nikkei and dies for over a decade: 1) you'd be DCAing and 2) we'd all be so fucked that a -20% drawdown or a -50% drawdown would be irrelevant.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:32:07 2023 No.56857349 File: 536 KB, 800x792, 1671166521126315.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm not worried about futures I think we're gonna pump https://youtu.be/0ydLf9qDPHY

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:33:26 2023 No.56857357 >>56857349 you are correct. im gonna buy some commercial real estate stocks. i feel like owning some sky scrapers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:36:34 2023 No.56857380 >futures https://youtu.be/QJPZcgvB4vI?si=KOEKby1oD8Xvj6xv

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:40:44 2023 No.56857423 >>56857357 If you want a good commercial real estate stock buy MCD. They are planning on launching CosMc which are smaller restaurants to complete with Starbucks

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:42:45 2023 No.56857448

>>56857139
Once again, the bitcoin bro is only able to present his argument through strawman arguments.
Still making references to gold, another asset which offers no yield. Now further implying that I must be a bond bull. If you can't defend bitcoin against stocks, it's only natural to other attack similar yield-less assets, particularly those with inferior returns over some arbitrary timeframe.

Sadly, all cope. He has no valid argument against the fact that a positive real return offered by profitable stock investments are greater over the long term than the *zero* real return his choice offers.
His only defense is a hypothetical view that bitcoin will regain interest well in excess of the 2018 peak hype, garnering more buyers. For this, he can present no evidence. The evidence exists purely in his own imagination. He fails even to formulate a reasonable refutation of my basic search interest historical data, clearly marking 2018 as the all time sentimental peak.
He unironically believes bitcoin is a growth investment. Just wait until the buybacks start! Oh, imagine how the future dividends will flow!

Best of luck to you, regardless. I truly appreciate you and everyone else who has maintained your dedication to crypto beyond 2018. It is your courage that allowed me to cash out near the top, and then repeat a similar swing in 2020. True believers like you were the only way I was ever going to profit off my crypto investment. It is thanks to those like you that I earned my starting capital to invest in real, productive assets, as I slowly became more knowledgeable about the world. I hope you'll make it, and with luck someday you'll learn the wisdom of the words I share. Some day you'll understand ROIC.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:50:21 2023 No.56857516 >>56857448 You're so dim it's painful. BTC will continue to yield real returns dwarfing equities until full capitalization

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:51:26 2023 No.56857528

>>56857448
>He fails even to formulate a reasonable refutation of my basic search interest historical data, clearly marking 2018 as the all time sentimental peak.
That's as dumb an argument as saying SPY has no upside because S&P 500 searches peaked in March 2020.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:51:49 2023 No.56857536 >Evergrande facing dissolution how do I profit from this bros?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:52:17 2023 No.56857542 >lemme check in with /biz/ hopefully those crazy retards aren’t still longing leveraged etfs You fuckin crazy retards

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:54:17 2023 No.56857557 Buddy, look at gold futures computer

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:55:46 2023 No.56857569

>>56857542
If you're 100% in SPY, you're at 1x leverage. Why shouldn't you turn 50% of that into cash and be safer at 0.5x leverage?

And then, to further avoid that danger of leveraged broad market exposure, why shouldn't you cut 0.5x to 0.25x by being 75% cash?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 05:57:56 2023 No.56857596 File: 429 KB, 896x782, 1662756499298254.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56857542 Why would we stop? It's like free money

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:00:13 2023 No.56857620 File: 29 KB, 454x342, 1693375867265535.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56857542 Soxl hodlers

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:04:23 2023 No.56857656 >>56857569 it would be nice to live in a world where leveraging up was free

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:05:05 2023 No.56857666 >>56857423 no thanks im goin with BXP boston properties

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:07:18 2023 No.56857683 >>56857528 Man what a dumb argument, and yet, it's so plainly reflected in the relative slowdown of crypto performance since 2018. Naturally, you offer no better evidence of your own.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:10:02 2023 No.56857709 >>56857656 You pay a lot more in fees with 100% SPY than 25% SPY. Same with 100% UPRO vs 100% SPY.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:11:15 2023 No.56857717
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>>56857656
Gee if only there were a leveraged inverse of monetary expansion without liquidation risk, volatility decay or counterparty risk, why if such a unicorn existed it would surely be the best performing asset ever!

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:13:29 2023 No.56857732
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>>56857536
I mentioned to an Epoch Times reading friend of mine that I was finally starting to invest in China again, after liquidating at the end of 2019.
His slightly ruffled response:
>Do what you want with your money, anon, but China is going under. It's literally over.
My rejoinder:
>That's why I'm buying. If it goes under further, I'll buy more.
Just don't get caught holding the bag if they actually decide to invade Taiwan next year.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:13:41 2023 No.56857735 >>56857709 Fees are about the same below 100%. Around 0.01%. This holds at 25% portfolio weight, simply impacting that smaller weight. Beyond that it jumps 500x higher, with fees around 5-6% per turn of leverage.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:15:10 2023 No.56857744 >>56857732 what would be the consequences of blowing up the 3 gorges dam on the stock market exchange?

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:16:04 2023 No.56857752

>>56857683
>relative slowdown of crypto performance since 2018.
Yes, 2018 (where the bubble pumped the market cap from 20B to 700B) and its paltry 35x really slowed down by 2021 (150B to 2.8T) when it only pumped 19x.

Gosh, such disappointing returns. Bond-like crabbing. Practically gold-tier.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:17:37 2023 No.56857765 File: 20 KB, 400x400, Bet more.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56857744 The rebuilding would entail massive stimulus.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:19:26 2023 No.56857786 >>56855539 >no reason the reason is a gold bull market, you retard

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:19:34 2023 No.56857789 Friend suggested Venezuela might have conflict with Guyana, the former having US support to get the jew elected

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:19:41 2023 No.56857790 >>56857744 If/when the belly of the dragon leaks water, I will be backing up the truck, as they say on Seeking Alpha.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:20:49 2023 No.56857799 >>56857732 The world really is racing towards a major war again, isn't it? But then again, nothing ever happens, so no matter how bad it looks it isn't going to be that bad.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:20:53 2023 No.56857802 >>56857735 Oh my gosh, 500x higher?! Wow. That must mean the data's all fraudulent and UPRO hasn't been killing it this year, returning damn near triple what SPY has, despite generationally high interest rates and volatility.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:24:07 2023 No.56857823

>>56857765
anon, it would affect more people than those living in the USA and Canada put together

>>56857790
i dont know if i shouldnt just sell whatever i have right now and wait for 2025 in case there is an actual crash. i wouldnt if i had a steady source of income next couple years, would rather just keep my money and dump more money into stocks as the crash unfolded.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:24:57 2023 No.56857828 >>56857823 >anon, it would affect more people than those living in the USA and Canada put together It's just some water. What's the big deal?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:25:26 2023 No.56857833 >>56857828 bugs can´t swim

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:26:48 2023 No.56857854 >>56857833 Prior to the invasion, Xi'd just have some factory crank out 500 million of those pool arm floaties.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:28:47 2023 No.56857873

>>56857799
Things seem to be headed for the brink. It remains to be seen whether they'll actually go over the brink. I agree with you that they probably won't. My bull fantasy regarding Taiwan is that Biden hands it over peaceable-like.
>>56857823
I'm trying not to hold my breath too long on this, while still keeping plenty of powder dry.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:29:09 2023 No.56857878

>>56857752
Wow! That's awesome if you can swing it. Oh wait, I was there. I did. We've been over this.
But I'm debating a perma-bull crypto cultist here, so feel free to fuck off if this is your only point... or at least consider reading the thread.
Bitcoin is up 2x since 2018, underperforming QQQ and roughly comparable to SPY. That's 6 whole years. Multiple cycles. Bitcoin still offers good leveraged beta, but the long term alpha is dead. Hype has maxed.

I know many of you crypto fags suffer some deficiencies and so this is likely impossible for you, but please consider trying to use your brain before posting.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:30:33 2023 No.56857891 >>56856594 It's probably going to 4x in the next 2 months ceo.ca/bex

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:33:24 2023 No.56857917
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>>56857878
>Bitcoin is up 2x since 2018
Hold up. You're pointing out that absolute tippy-top peak bagholders got *2x* returns in only 6 years, then mentioned dot com bubble champion QQQ? In the very same sentence? The one that needed two decades and multiple rounds of QE to pull off the same feat?

Oh tradfi baggie...

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:34:06 2023 No.56857923 >>56857802 There's a reason UPRO is trading 30% below 2021 peak while SPY sits essentially at all time highs, divvy adjusted. But its not worth my time to continue conversing with some who makes such blatantly bad faith responses.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:34:22 2023 No.56857925
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I cannot STAND retarded, lying liberals. You ask them a SIMPLE fucking question like "Is the market going to crash?" and they give you some BS wishy washy answer like "Well yes, but actually no."

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:38:54 2023 No.56857961 >>56857917 Please read before posting, thanks. I hope there will be no need to repeat myself twice.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:39:08 2023 No.56857966 >>56857917 >>56857878 Wait until you see NVDA

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:42:23 2023 No.56857986 >>56857961 You're saying long term alpha is dead when the entire crypto space has a market cap a tenth the size of boomer rocks. Repeating that idiocy would only waste 4channel's valuable server space.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:45:17 2023 No.56858013 >>56856091 pro tip: never touch chinese stock

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:46:34 2023 No.56858027 >>56857878 DCAing starting at the 2017 peak outperformed DCAing into QQQ over the same period. Cry moar

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:48:56 2023 No.56858039 >>56858027 Look, you don't get it, man. You're gonna be disappointed when BTC only 10x's from here. in that time, QQQ will be up as much as 30%. 30%!

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:53:18 2023 No.56858070

talked about investing during last family reunion, everyone looked at me as if there was something wrong, except my brother´s gf, who turned out to have done it before. i think she is managing to convince my brother to do the same.. how do can i profit from this?

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 06:55:20 2023 No.56858083

>>56858027
I think you're misunderstanding. I'm laughing at you right now. This is hilarious.
It's a natural fact that for me to have sold my bitcoin near those past peaks, some loser had to have paid me that exit liquidity. It's nice to finally meet them.
Congratulations on "DCAing" at $60k for me.

I truly hope you find someone someday that will "DCA" your own bags a an exit above your own cost basis.
As for me, I'm getting older and lazier. I no longer need to be chasing ponzis to earn my pay. I can just sit comfy in real businesses like PBR. They pay my salary, and I can maintain my relative stake in the enterprise too. Where I come from they call this a real yield.
But I know that's just a myth to you crypto bros. Keep DCAing. I'm sure you'll make it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:03:30 2023 No.56858135
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>>56858070
Wat? Most normal adults know what investing is. What kind of low class sewage are you hanging around with? No but on a more serious note, I've yet to meet anyone in this day and age that knows not what the stock market is.

Btw, prepare for more bobo squeezing as we continue to pump. Damn I love 2023. Bobos have gotten so insanely liquidated. I'd like to see an update on this chart to see how much they contributed to this rally. Everytime they scream overbought and then it just keeps pumping... beautiful. Shorting should be limited to a few % at most.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:05:30 2023 No.56858154 >>56858135 I forgot the stock market existed until I saw a Schwab commercial during the world series in 2019. Don't put it past people to be totally unaware of basic finance.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:09:58 2023 No.56858186
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>>56858154
I honestly believe all zoomers and most millenials know what the stock market is. Not that they know anything about it but they are at least aware and try to look all smug about it. Here in Scandinavia, people love investing. But I guess you are right. My perspective is limited.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:10:14 2023 No.56858188
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>>56858135
>What kind of low class sewage are you hanging around with?
My family. That´s just it, most people think it´s the boogeyman and that you are bound to lose your entire money

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:14:06 2023 No.56858225 >>56858186 are you from Norway? had a friend of mine moving there after finishing up on international relations. been trying to get my shit together before asking her how she´s been doing so far

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:15:11 2023 No.56858237 >>56858154 >>56858186 >basic finance Shiiet, that's like using credit cards and bills and shit, right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:15:39 2023 No.56858243 File: 9 KB, 194x259, 1641846625594 slurp.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I just slurped more Oil

PFA (poorfaganon) !ajScliW.3g Mon Dec 4 07:17:26 2023 No.56858256
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I've been here a couple times before, it has been a very long time. Anyways, I am a poorfag however I have unobtainable knowledge/instinct. I VILL tell you what I am going to do and you VILL be able to replicate it and you VILL be able to make more profit than me since you have a larger capital.
Here are the plays I am going to make, ordering them shortly after this post and will let it play out..
..
#1: BAX , Call Debit Spread , exp:12/29, $32/$33.
The stock will LITERALLY NOT go below $32.
I am buying 3 of these contracts. Spending $189.18..
Expected profits: +$111.00
...
#2: BCRX , (two) Call Debit Spreads, BOTH expiring January 19th, 2024.
No.1 is $4/$5 (WARNING: POSSIBLY WOBBLY), costing me $38.
No.2 is $1/$2 (The stock will LITERALLY NOT go below $1), costing me $68.
Spending $106...
Expected profits: +$32, +$62 or -$38 loss.
...
#3: MRK, (two) Call Debit Spreads,
BOTH expiring January 5th, 2024.
No.1 is $103/$104 (WARNING: POSSIBLY WOBBLY), costing me $44.
No.2 is $100/$101 (The stock will LITERALLY NOT go below $100.) Costing me $80.
Spending: $124...
Expected profits: +$20, +$56 or -$44 loss.
..
If absolutely EVERYTHING goes right, I should in theory gain mere ~$281. Alright wish me luck bros

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:17:32 2023 No.56858257

>>56858186
It didn't help that the GFC happened when I started economics class in high school. Whatever paltry lessons they'd give us on investing and stocks were replaced with lessons of what transpired months prior and occupy shilling. Commission free trading wouldn't get introduced by HOOD until many years later and by then no one I knew had any money to buy stocks. Now I see HOOD adverts everywhere and apparenlty high schoolers gamble their lunch money on options chains.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:24:19 2023 No.56858300 >>56858256 What are your plans if those option prices vary wildly at the bell? That was my biggest problem with planning my options buys on the weekend.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:30:32 2023 No.56858343
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>>56858225
Imma move to Norway, senpai. Gonna be lit fr fr. PhD in a STEM field. Pays pretty damn well. Weak currency but oh well. Just be aware that it rains a lot in Norway since it always bears the brunt of any oncoming attacks.
>>56858188
Weird. Even all the boomers I know are and have been passively investing for a long time and are up at least 1000%.
>>56858257
You get lessons on investing and stocks? That's actually pretty good. Damn. Zoomies and milenials get introduced to stocks via tiktok or snapchat. Arrows pointing up and sheit. I got introduced to stocks via my parents that have been investing ever since the 2009 crash (you can imagine how well their portfolio is doing).

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:33:42 2023 No.56858357 >stock markets https://youtu.be/ICZG33IxtgE?si=k3jTPm3ijFYnmZTI

>>	PFA (poorfaganon) !ajScliW.3g Mon Dec 4 07:33:46 2023 No.56858358 >>56858300 Just try to offer them one more dollar, if an option is settling at $0.63, just set it so you're willing to buy it at $0.64 :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:36:53 2023 No.56858380 >>56858135 >>Wat? Most normal adults know what investing is. they dont. they know what consuming means, especially women. investing is very rare

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:40:12 2023 No.56858405
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>>56858380
In that case I feel even more honoured to have such a great mom. She was the one to start investing and the one to take care of our stock accounts. Spent a lot of time doing fundamental research and it paid off handsomely. Thanks mum

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:40:48 2023 No.56858416 File: 7 KB, 300x168, 1701292585926610.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] The gap has almost been filled. This isn't a financial collapse, this is the beginning of a civilizational collapse. If you know you know.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:42:08 2023 No.56858425 kek silver baggies. the jews dumped the pump before you could

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:43:42 2023 No.56858434

Lol fintwit doesn't even report bad news anymore. Like for example german export import being way weaker than expected. Just not report anymore.

Only mention it in an article
> as exports declined by 0.2% on the month but imports slumped harder by 1.2% on the month.
expected was +1,1% exports and +0,8% import, but it is -0,2% exports and -1,2% imports.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:44:26 2023 No.56858438 >>56858405 yeah you should probably tell her that in person

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:45:22 2023 No.56858442 yeah lots of stops trigger on gold lol the order book has to be super cleansed now

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:46:42 2023 No.56858449
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>>56854848
Wasn't Trumps big sell that he was going to bring back manufacturering to the US? Seems like he did fuck all and Biden is actually doing what Trump said he was going to do.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:48:56 2023 No.56858463 >>56858449 it's not really Biden it's supply chain issues triggering merchants who now want some control over their own manufacturing

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:49:48 2023 No.56858473
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Weird trading patterns in gold. Weird pump and dump. Too many traders moved into gold and are now screwing it up. Still, I am bigly up on it so I don't really care.
>>56858449
I reckon this was in the cards for quite some time already. The US gigaprinted and the money was actually put to good use. It just took some time to implement. That's my theory at least.
Still, nice to see that the US has come out on top across all categories. Manufacturing, industry, tech, everything is coming back into the US

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 07:52:12 2023 No.56858484 >>56858449 >56858449 Yeah, one tries it without debt I assume, the other goes hard into it.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:00:57 2023 No.56858520 >>56858484 Trump only increased the federal debt by 7.8 Trillion after all. That's 3 place behind GW Bush and Lincoln

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:01:49 2023 No.56858527 >spotify 17% layoff lol, lmao even

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:04:18 2023 No.56858541 >>56858449 The cost of capital has increased for these companies due to inflation , obviously they're spending more, retard.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:10:58 2023 No.56858573 >>56858463 >>56858473 >>56858484 >>56858541 Cope, Biden is literally Making American Great Again after Trump did nothing for 4 years

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:16:16 2023 No.56858611 >>56858573 then why are americans suffering so much?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:24:15 2023 No.56858650 >>56855118 The chocolate won't be good forever. You should eat them already.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:25:52 2023 No.56858661 >>56855118 >don't throw your money at shitty miners that are down 99.23% and have been trading for nickels for years. yeah bro don't buy undervalued assets, just buy them when they've already gone up

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:27:43 2023 No.56858672 amazing how EU can literally only slurp, nothing else.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:32:44 2023 No.56858703 BTC is at 41.5k and I am in disbelief.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:33:50 2023 No.56858711

As interesting as it is gold is finally moving up again after 3 long years, I am much more curious to find out the reason it's happening now and if they will do anything drastic to try to stop it. Gold broke out in 2019 a few months before the Fed did a U-Turn on QT in response to repo issues. Some shit is brewing.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:36:56 2023 No.56858729 >>56857542 Biz doesn't know that you are supposed to hold both sides if you are playing a pairs strategy.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:38:29 2023 No.56858733 File: 176 KB, 1080x1754, Screenshot_20231202_095102_Samsung Internet.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56858661 Nowhere to go but up right? Just a little undervalued right?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:38:49 2023 No.56858737 it is such an automated bullshit. First 5 minutes it is a little turmoil and right at the 5 minute mark the market does one coordinated shit. Just one direction, no counterpressure. Midyear was fun, but since October markets have become utter garbage

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:39:42 2023 No.56858740 >>56858733 I'm talking about the sector as a whole, not individual ones that basically went bankrupt but ok. Even this shit stock will probably 10x.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:41:17 2023 No.56858751
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>>56858573
The president is of no consequence. We all know that. The president is a just a figure head. Whether it's Trump, Biden, Bush, or anyone else... they don't really matter.
The truth is that the US handled inflation the best out of all countries on this planet. No panic, relatively good wage increases, rates are still low, even the service inflation has decreased (which was unexpected)... and they used all that to their advantage and fully funneled cash into areas that matter: construction, manufacturing, tech.
Good

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:41:20 2023 No.56858752 File: 192 KB, 1024x836, 1634009721416.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Gold bros... why do we keep losing

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:42:33 2023 No.56858757 >>56858527 But layoffs are always good for bulls...right?

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:42:56 2023 No.56858760
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>>56858083
>he's a value trap "investor"
PBR total return over the last 10 years (not even factoring for tax drag) has been BELOW monetary expansion, enjoy those Actual Productive negative real returns, faggot

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:43:23 2023 No.56858763 >>56858751 >-full time >+part-time and multiple jobs kek, that is wageslavery.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:45:48 2023 No.56858775
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>>56858740
I was talking about the shitty miners that have been shilled here nonstop that are down 90%+ and have been trading sub 25 cents for almost a decade regardless of how gold has performed.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:50:13 2023 No.56858800 >>56858740 fuck off retard, none of your garbage will even go 2x up even if gold reaches $2400. Go shit up another thread.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:50:13 2023 No.56858801
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>>56858763
Heh, yes it is :). Make America great again eh? People just love consoming. They will pay a great price for that.
>>56858672
Record low P/E, money is still in the system (restrictive policy my ass >>56855524), Santa rally, and inflation under control. Why should we not be at ATH right now?
I think inflation will start shooting again this month because of higher electricity prices but that doesn't matter right now

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:50:50 2023 No.56858802 fuck this cuckcontinent, I'm gonna take my money and go to africa. No difference anymore anyways

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:51:45 2023 No.56858807 File: 102 KB, 921x1024, 1698384419252817.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56858802 enjoy

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:53:23 2023 No.56858816 >>56858807 At least they don't act as if they weren't corrupt. Or morally superior in any way like the EU, but then sell weapons to whoever gives them oil and gas.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:54:21 2023 No.56858823 File: 126 KB, 570x1000, sample-25449613fecba873bb7560e28597729d.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56858802 I bet you won't

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:55:05 2023 No.56858830 >>56858775 one guy shills those 3 stocks and honestly he's probably right im investing in decent juniors that actually have something, good hits, good jurisdiction, cash on hand etc

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:55:22 2023 No.56858832 >>56856647 This

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 08:58:31 2023 No.56858849 >>56858823 This is good. I like this. Also thoughts on investing in Nigerian stocks? If I invested in china stocks like 10 years ago I’d be like really rich probably

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:01:49 2023 No.56858867 >>56858823 Step by step, already considering going to south EU.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:02:50 2023 No.56858874

>>56858830
Miners themselves aren't a bad play if you are doing the mid to top producers. They actually track golds ups and downs. If you are going to throw money at a sub nickel stock with almost no traffick like was suggested by another anon, you may as well just throw your money in the trash.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:06:00 2023 No.56858888 Guys I am currently on chaturbate and I stick dildos in my ass for 10$ each. what stock do I buy with my new earned money?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:09:25 2023 No.56858905 >>56858816 no, they just kidnap you and beat the living shit out of you before asking your family for a ransom when going to a gas station

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:10:27 2023 No.56858912 File: 1.19 MB, 968x998, 1683140911796388.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56858888 Ticker DIAPER. I heard it's pretty popular among people of your "disposition"

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:11:47 2023 No.56858921 File: 61 KB, 478x472, _91408619_55df76d5-2245-41c1-8031-07a4da3f313f (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56858867 Dont come to iberia, we don´t want any more of you living "off the grid" here.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:11:56 2023 No.56858922 >>56858849 I don't know shit about Nigerian stocks. Can't go wrong with land though. Africa is rich in resources. Start buying it up or investing in companies that will take advantage of those resources.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:12:06 2023 No.56858924 You love to see it, EU pumping for the US to dunk on them. Classic cuckmove

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:13:00 2023 No.56858929 dxy up or down this week?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:13:03 2023 No.56858930 >>56858888 Have you heard of these things called semiconductors? Anyway I'm sure there's some people here who'd pay you to do that with a green wig on.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:13:08 2023 No.56858931 >>56858905 >>56858921 I'm not white. Not northwesterneuropean. I'm south EU. So they won't hate me as much, since I'm no colonialist :)

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:13:28 2023 No.56858935 >>56858914 >>56858914 >>56858914 >>56858914

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:14:39 2023 No.56858942 >>56858931 if that´s the case then you are alright, maybe you want to check out the atlantic islands, pretty cool places all of them.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:16:06 2023 No.56858952 >>56858874 >If you are going to throw money at a sub nickel stock with almost no traffick like was suggested by another anon, you may as well just throw your money in the trash. you base this on the bear market. it's the only thing you've known

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:16:58 2023 No.56858957

>>56858942
I have to assume you are spanish, since you brought up Iberia. You mean Fuerteventura etc? I haven't spoken spanish since school. Thought about relearning it, but I'm not sure. I mean, spain is nice, but I have a house and land in my home country and if I'd go to south EU, it would be a waste to not use the house.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:20:53 2023 No.56858979 >>56858957 no, im portuguese, but even the canary islands are cool. plus, all of those archipelagos enjoy the status of being autonomous regions within EU countries, which means there is an extra layer of resistance to EU regulatory cuckery

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:23:10 2023 No.56858993 >>56858979 You are the lithium village anon?

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:24:19 2023 No.56859001 >>56858993 >56858993 >>56858979 I think I recently read something right because of the lithium mining. That there is somebody corrupt again and has to pay a fine... Ah yes, Costa, found it.

Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:24:48 2023 No.56859005

>>56855196
Smallest amount of bitcoin that you can buy is a satoshi , which is 100 millions of a bitcoin.
there are total of 19 million bitcoins mined, total amount of smallest quantity of bitcoin that you can buy is: 1,955,946,250,000,000.

Lets see how many dollar cents are in existence, total amount of dollars is 2.26 trillion, smallest amount that you can get of a dollar is a cent, total amount of cents is:
226,000,000,000,000.

niga there is 8.65 times more satoshi currently then dollar cents, there is no bitcoin scarcity and its worthless.

>>	Anonymous Mon Dec 4 09:40:26 2023 No.56859084 >>56856573 Thanks brother. Here's to making it, hopefully

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