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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>56708487

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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only Airbnb
https://safehouse.homes/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ev2jTUKS


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

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Reporting in
##################################
Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
##################################
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

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>>56819058
Damn I thought the Monero Jannie died for a second but nope the wall of text is back

>> No.56820961

>>56819135
based

>> No.56821178

>>56819058
> delisted by all exchanges
> infinite supply
> no price action, didn’t reach ath in the last cycle
> dev rugpulled
Yeah… it’s a shitcoin

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>>56821178
>> delisted by all exchanges

treated as a genuine threat, unlike Bitcoin

>>infinite supply

over an infinite timescale

>> no price action, didn’t reach ath in the last cycle

not as manipulated as everything else in this clown market

>> dev rugpulled

just making shit up at this point.


FUD harder, faggot.

>> No.56821582

>>56821178
https://xeggex.com/market/XMR_USDT

>> No.56821905

>>56819058
This image brings memory. remembers me of the first /XMR/ gens I came across using this as the OP pic in 2020 or so in the mid of the fake pandemic

too bad nothing happened since then

>> No.56821992

How we feelin' fellow baggies?

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>>56821905
>too bad nothing happened since then

since 2020? Monero-only darknet markets really only started to take off in 2020, now they're the majority as Bitcoin dominance continues dwindling.

And it ain't just on the darknet, now the trend is spreading to clearnet markets as well lmao

At this rate, just imagine where we'll be 5 years from now....

>> No.56822197

I get paid in Monero.
Why aren't you?
Start your Monero grind.

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>> No.56825347

nothing ever happens

>> No.56825480

there should be a monero tier kind of digital anonymous currency but that's like pegged to the dollar or something i think it would be funny

>> No.56826365

Everything about Monero is so based, how come its not a Top 5 coin by now?

>> No.56826802

>>56826365
It is number one. No other coin accepted for commerce in any real situation. Number one in gift card sales, clearnet sales, darknet markets.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

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Study finds Monero to be best investment.

Average and Risk-Return Analysis of Cryptocurrencies Using ARMA-GARCH Models
http://www.iorajournal.org/index.php/ijgor/article/view/214

>Best expected return with the lowest volatility value is owned by Monero (XMR).

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ALL ABROAD!!

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Where will this path lead us?

>> No.56827528

>>56827352
>pajeet authors
>garbage journal with no impact factor
>paper only compared Monero against Quant, XRP, XLM, and Decred, didn't even consider Bitcoin or ETH
>only considers data up to September 2022
>classic case of overfitting, throw way too many models at each time series
Lmao, did you even read this garbage? It's sad more than anything.

>> No.56827556

>>56827352
Congrats, some shitskins found out a year ago that after applying dozens of models Monero was better than fucking Decred

>> No.56827953

I hate KYC so much.

>> No.56827971

>>56821178
https://tradeogre.com/exchange/XMR-USDT
https://tradeogre.com/exchange/XMR-BTC

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Can any of you monerotards share what the meta cope for this chart is these days?

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>>56828438
>Can any of you monerotards share what the meta cope for this chart is these days?

lol lets see.....

1. Price action in a *highly* manipulated, utterly irrational market is inherently meaningless.
2. Monero is wiping the floor with BTC in the only metric that actually counts.
3. Monero will have its "told ya so" moment when sanity finally returns to the market.

You may now continue trying to impress us with yet more meaningless price charts

>> No.56829798

>power rate hikes just knocked my rigs even farther into unprofitability

I think I'm going to have to shutter my shitty, unused TOR pool, guise. Very sad.

His hardware will become a minecraft slave labor bot.

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>>56829063
While wash trading and manipulation on a lot of the shitty, poochang exchanges is rampant (pic related, top, trade size histograms), the exchanges that actually matter (pic related, bottom), the ones that actually make the market long term, don't show signs of manipulation.
Wash trading on idax or coinsuper isn't really moving the market, since they have no coins to dump on other exchanges in the first place.
Volume for all cryptocurrencies is overinflated, and having volume in non-financial markets is good, but that doesn't invalidate the relative rankings of Bitcoin & Monero.

https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-nysearca-2019-01/srnysearca201901-5164833-183434.pdf

>> No.56830550

>>56830528
*correction: shitty exchanges = bottom on pic related, valid exchanges = top

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>>56821441
Monero is the true decentralized crypto. Bitcoin is the version .01 and Monero brought the much needed improvements necessary. We need to destroy the colony of the shills once and for all

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do we currently have even so much as a fart in the wind about a protocol upgrade or have all the avenues turned out to be impractical? I am so out of the loop

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>>56829063
>3. Monero will have its "told ya so" moment when sanity finally returns to the market.
Damn right it will. Sure, it may not happen during this cycle. Or the next. Or even the one after that. But one day it will happen. Just give it two more weeks

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>>56830528

lol its still an unregulated market, there's nothing stopping colluding entities from wash trading on "good" markets and getting away with it. Try it on Wall Street and your ass will end up in prison.

Furthermore, regular wash trading is one thing, Tether's BRRRRRRRRRRRR shenanigans are a whole other kettle of fish and of much greater concern.

Don't try to make like this clown market is a coherent and level playing field when it clearly isn't. Literal dog memes still outrank the only coin that's actually being used right now for its intended purpose.

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>>56831211
>Damn right it will. Sure, it may not happen during this cycle. Or the next. Or even the one after that. But one day it will happen. Just give it two more weeks

kek more like when Monero's conquest of markets previously dominated by Bitcoin starts becoming regular headline news. You know how fickle and easily spooked bagholders can be.

>> No.56831351

>>56831235
Wash trading is identifiable. You'd have to be genius level to perfectly replicate the behavior of a global market, especially if multiple entities are all trying to coordinate their behavior. If they were capable of that, they could make a fortune without garbage exchanges.
The 10 main exchanges as of the above document (Binance, Bitfinex, Kraken, Bitstamp, Coinbase, bitFlyer, Gemini, itBit, Bittrex, & Poloniex) all trade extremely tightly. Artificially replicating that without detection is insane. It's like making a perfect global model of the weather.

>> No.56831428

>>56831235
And of these exchanges, all except Binance are registered with FinCEN as a money services business, many with NY state BitLicense, and most have market surveillance tools to identify wash trading, spoofing, etc. Even as of 2019 the "real" market was highly regular. Much more so now given all the recent enforcement actions & regulation.

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>>56831351
>>56831428

lol even if they do run a tighter ship you still can't restrict the manipulative effects of wash trading to specific exchanges, if the price of a given crypto is rapidly rising on one exchange it will inevitably go up in others, arbitrage and all that.

This was obvious right from the start of BTC's price manipulation saga.

>> No.56831692

>>56831586
The best you have is Mt Gox from a decade ago, an exchange that actually had liquidity, and again, is providing clear indicators of an anomaly.
Thank you, you just proved my point that manipulation can't be hidden. The above report clearly demonstrates that the major exchanges, the ones with all the liquidity that are making the market, aren't showing evidence of manipulation.
If you want to say the Bitcoin market is highly irrational and manipulated, show me the trade size histograms, or anomalous volume, or bid-ask spreads on Coinbase, Kraken, etc., proving it.

>> No.56831752

>>56831586
Also transient spikes in volume, price, or volatility aren't enough in themselves to indicate manipulation or wash trading. Some whale dumping a fat buy order can be a perfectly legitimate trade.

>> No.56831754

Anyone one here wanna make 0.2 XMR? You need to be from a country that can trade crypto derivatives, preferably an EU one like Cyprus or Switzerland. I want to trade derivatives but I am in Canada, so I need to fake my proof of address. If anyone can post a high quality pic of their utility statement, redacting any identifiable info such as your name, account number, address etc (I am gonna try to edit this anyway), post it and if it's good enough, I will send the XMR. Also, when you block out the account number, provide a suitable fake in your reply. Alternatively, if anyone has an easier way of getting onto good exchanges as a leaf, let me know and if it's good I can just give you the XMR instead.

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>>56831692
>>56831752

lol the SEC's recent rejection of the ETF specifically cites fraudulent BTC trading as an ongoing concern.

So give it a rest, pal, the market is an absolute clown show.

>> No.56831854

>>56831831
>The SEC, a hostile entity that, as part of the US government, has everything to lose from the adoption of Bitcoin. And has repeatedly demonstrated itself to be acting in bad faith.
Are you fucking serious? You must be an IDF plant.

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>>56831854

>>56830528
>https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-nysearca-2019-01/srnysearca201901-5164833-183434.pdf

kek

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>>56829798

>> No.56831967

>>56831145
Does monero even have devs anymore? I guess I'll do it

>> No.56832016

>>56831967
yeah there are still devs, stuff is still being done all the time on the github, I'm just not privy to what the current goal may be

>> No.56832035

Anons if i tried a start up (selling cofee) and asked for money here, and i would pay you back double in the future, would you be interested

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>>56832035

https://kuno.anne.media/

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>>56819058
Silver and Monero

>> No.56832207

>>56831870
>Bitwise, an asset management company that has generally acted in good faith is the same as the SEC, the Jewiest Jews on earth
I am now 100% certain Monero /biz/ threads have been co-opted by the Feds (you) for the purpose of creating a division between Monero and Bitcoin, the only legitimate crypto projects (who should generally get along), in an effort to sequester freedom lovers into a small slice of the economy, where they can't do as much damage to the US gov as if they were to also take over mainstream finance and wipe out the inflation machine.
It's no surprise the feds would be here too, given how hard /pol/ glows.

>> No.56832290

>>56831754
anybody?

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>>56832207
>I am now 100% certain Monero /biz/ threads have been co-opted by the Feds (you) for the purpose of creating a division between Monero and Bitcoin, the only legitimate crypto projects (who should generally get along), in an effort to sequester freedom lovers into a small slice of the economy, where they can't do as much damage to the US gov as if they were to also take over mainstream finance and wipe out the inflation machine.
>It's no surprise the feds would be here too, given how hard /pol/ glows.

>> No.56832468

>>56832452
I'll take that as a yes.

>> No.56832480

>>56831831
>specifically calling out tether
lmao here we go

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>>56832468
>I'll take that as a yes.

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>>56832480
>lmao here we go

lol keep going

>> No.56832549

>>56832510
>>56832518
Your fallback strategy is always to rely on your shitty meme folder whenever you've been outed as a retard/Jew/retarded Jew.

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>>56832549

What's that? Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of BTC's price being manipulated!

>> No.56832600

>>56832016
The goal should be to add some type of layer 2s to monero, so we can have other blockchains that use Monero as the base layer. Like for example i would love a prediction market sidechain of Monero.

>> No.56832613

>>56832578
Again prove it. Appealing to the SEC or NYT articles isn't proof. I've proven it isn't in every way that matters.
That or ask your kike handlers for more faggoty memes.

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>>56832613

lol

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Who was this?

>> No.56832734

>>56832716
Monero-chan

>> No.56832771

Cheaper Alternatives to localmonero

>> No.56832881
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On a related note, the Smackers vendor shop finally ditched BTC last week and went Monero-only. I'm losing track of how many Monero-only stores there are now kek

Between recent developments on the darknet and now the clearnet, its never been comfier, lads. The vanquishing of Bitcoin continues, expect more desperate appeals to muh price action.

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When 170 finally breaks down into a support level, the Moonero rocket will launch to 300.

>> No.56833053

>>56832637
Is calling a Bitcoin/Monero holder a conspiracy theorist supposed to be an insult?
And I'm still waiting for your proof.

>> No.56833148

>>56832600
shut the fuck up you retard, that's a terrible idea.

>hurr durr lets turn monero into ETH because that went so well for them

I sincerely hope you are trolling.

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>>56833053
>And I'm still waiting for your proof.

lol you have your proof, you just refuse to acknowledge the many unpleasant findings of academia, investigative journalists and the SEC.

Ergo, crying conspiracy.

>> No.56833315

>>56833197
>academia
An arm of the state with an agenda
>"investigative journalists"
An arm of the state with an agenda
>The SEC
An arm of the state with an agenda

You're fine with sucking the government's dick so long as it serves you.
I posted real data indicating that while manipulation on zero liquidity poochang exchanges is real, it is not on all the major exchanges that actually make the market. I can trade one Bitcoin with myself a billion times on a spreadsheet, publish it, and "prove" the majority of volume is fake. But that has zero impact on the market. Post actual proof, data, not appeals to authority.

Also get new reaction images nigger.

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>>56833315

lol dropped on your head as a baby? You literally cited the SEC as a data host when it suited you.

>>56830528
>https://www.sec.gov/comments/sr-nysearca-2019-01/srnysearca201901-5164833-183434.pdf

Then you again invoked the authority of State regulators when it suited you.

>>>56831428
>And of these exchanges, all except Binance are registered with FinCEN as a money services business, many with NY state BitLicense, and most have market surveillance tools to identify wash trading, spoofing, etc.

But now like a retard you turn around and start throwing shade on those very same entities as soon as you don't like what they're saying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem


>I posted real data

lol you posted 2019 data, namely BitWise's attempt at damage control in a 2019 presentation to the SEC. BTW, BitWise, the world's largest crypto index fund manager, would greatly profit from the SEC approving an ETF, so forgive us if we take their conclusions with a HUGE grain of salt.

And in case you haven't noticed, its now nearly 2024 and, as seen, as of today the SEC still ain't buying that horseshit.

Try again.

>> No.56833839

>>56833695
Learn to read nigger, the report linked was a presentation made by Bitwise to the SEC in response to the SEC's assertion that Bitcoin's price is the result of manipulation. The entire report is in opposition to the SEC, clearing up their assertions, you absolute fuckwit. Just because a presentation made TO the SEC is on the SEC's website doesn't make it their views. The data in the report is what matters. How are you this fucking retarded?

Similarly, I cited FinCEN registration and BitLicense to highlight that the market-making exchanges all have protections against wash trading and market manipulation. I didn't argue in favor of those licenses as good things in themselves or that the state should regulate crypto. But it provides more proof against you saying that Bitcoin's price is the result of manipulation.

I posted 2019 data that clearly demonstrates my point. You posted completely irrelevant 2013 data. If it'll make you feel better, I'll compile more recent data that demonstrates the same.

Why are the Monero threads run by an absolute shit-for-brains? Monero is really fucking cool. Bitcoin is really cool. But you're as intelligent as the BBBY and GME threads. That or an IDF hire.

>> No.56833913

>>56833695
Post anomalous, sustained bid-ask spreads on Coinbase, or Kraken, or Bitfinex, or volume, or trade size histograms. That's all you have to do.

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>>56833839
>Learn to read nigger, the report linked was a presentation made by Bitwise to the SEC in response to the SEC's assertion that Bitcoin's price is the result of manipulation. The entire report is in opposition to the SEC, clearing up their assertions, you absolute fuckwit. Just because a presentation made TO the SEC is on the SEC's website doesn't make it their views. The data in the report is what matters. How are you this fucking retarded?

lol I did say "data host", didn't I? "The SEC is an avowed enemy except when they're hosting data I like. Or going after altcoins" hahaha

>Similarly, I cited FinCEN registration and BitLicense to highlight that the market-making exchanges all have protections against wash trading and market manipulation. I didn't argue in favor of those licenses as good things in themselves or that the state should regulate crypto. But it provides more proof against you saying that Bitcoin's price is the result of manipulation.

lol apparently those protections still leave a lot to be desired as per the most recent SEC findings.


>I posted 2019 data that clearly demonstrates my point.

lol you posted old data compiled by a corporation that stands to make an insane amount of money if the SEC could somehow be convinced to approve the ETF.


>If it'll make you feel better, I'll compile more recent data that demonstrates the same.
>>56833913
>Post anomalous, sustained bid-ask spreads on Coinbase, or Kraken, or Bitfinex, or volume, or trade size histograms. That's all you have to do.

Even better: write a paper explaining how you're right and everybody else is wrong, get it peer-reviewed and then come back and rub it in our faces. We'll wait.

>> No.56834144

>>56834022
The data doesn't give a shit who presented it or where it's hosted, it's data. You're the one making assertions and appealing to authority. I posted data that disproves you, it could be hosted on some shitty blog and it'd be just as valid. You have yet to post any actual evidence proving otherwise.

>as per the most recent SEC findings
>get it peer-reviewed
Here you are shilling for the state again. Keep sucking them off and the SEC will declare your throat a commodity.

>> No.56834156

>>56828438
bitcoin always runs before monero, give it 3 months to adjust

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>>56834144

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>> No.56834178

>>56834171
Where did I say the SEC is good nigger?

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>>56834178

As long as they're hosting that 2019 presentation they can't be all bad hahahahahaha

>> No.56834257

>>56834212
Keep straw manning, doubling down on logical fallacies and faggoty reaction images. It won't change shit.

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>>56834257

lol I just don't take you seriously, bro, sorry.

>> No.56834412

>>56834345
Yet you take journalists seriously, which tells me everything I need to know about you.

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>>56834412
>Yet you take journalists seriously, which tells me everything I need to know about you.

More seriously than laser-eyed bagholders desperate for a pump.

>> No.56834580

>>56834529
I'm about done with this since you're incapable of arguing in good faith. It's disappointing Monero threads are run by such a pathetic shit for brains tho.

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>>56834580
>incapable of arguing in good faith.

>only my Bitcoin-friendly corporate data sources should be taken seriously, everything else is FUD being propagated by a grand conspiracy to keep Bitcoin down, maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan

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>>56835176
You're still straw manning. The data itself is impartial, it doesn't matter what server it's hosted on, or who presented it.

Meanwhile you >>56831831 cite SEC opinion (not data) as reliable in itself without checking the underlying data their claims are based on. Despite the SEC currently facing sanctions for lying to a court.

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Empower Women With Monero. Smash the patriarchal central banks.

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>>56835260

>SEC is lying. So is academia. And the news media. And anybody else who investigates and concludes Bitcoin's manic price action is inorganic and indicative of manipulation.
>only large crypto corporations gunning for a lucrative ETF deal can be trusted to tell it like it is

Do you realize how retarded you sound?

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>> No.56835712

>>56835573
>The state is lying. So is the state. And the state.
How is it the Monero general thread is home to one of the biggest statists on this board?
And I presented clear data, you're free to present your own, rather than sucking down government propaganda.

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>>56835712

lol why are you still here? Go start a BTC General and peddle your corporate propaganda in there. Be sure to remind everybody that a fully organic $100K is coming soon!

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>>56835712
I've been very surprised by this also, the statist cucks been programed their whole life, and literal regurgitated government propaganda lines unironically

>> No.56836040

>>56835815
Because I care about freedom, which involves Bitcoin and Monero. Not pushing for a counter-productive divide between the only two cryptocurrencies that matter while fondling the state's balls, as you do. Your IDF divide-and-conquer tactics are painfully obvious.

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>>56836040
>Because I care about freedom, which involves Bitcoin and Monero. Not pushing for a counter-productive divide between the only two cryptocurrencies that matter while fondling the state's balls, as you do. Your IDF divide-and-conquer tactics are painfully obvious.

Oh plz, spare me the "muh freedomz" spiel. If you were genuinely all about the freedomz you'd follow the lead of the underground resistance and ditch the high-fee surveillance coin like all the OG cypherpunks did years ago.

>> No.56836722

I see they are paying extra hours at the Fed. Can't you guys just chill on /pol/ as usual?

>> No.56836913

>>56831754
Bump to help a leak out
>>56832035
You could sell it on MoneroMarket, anon. Just drop your ad link every so often. Anons would buy it if it's good.
>>56832121
Based

>> No.56837364

>>56833148
I just want to build on Monero.

>> No.56837530

Do we have gambling of roosters fighting, what forms of gambling do we have

>> No.56837535

>>56836153
Where are the cypherpunks today and most important question what are they working on

>> No.56837570

Ok anons, I'm a complete uttery newfag about crypto, trading and all this shit, I need money, I have 5 dollars in btc since 2018, since then I did not buy anything because steam stop using BTC as method of pay, So what can I do, I watching a bit of trading tutorials, and I like to tarde with that money because I'm a poor fag, what are my options with monero, I want something very anonymous, I can make scalping with monero, in where plataform, I mean I installed bisq but the thing has not all those fancy tools to trade.

>> No.56837629

>>56837570
consider suicide

>> No.56837634

>>56837629
I'm not a troon like you, I'm plenty happy with my body.

>> No.56837649

>>56837570
Hi LebAnon

>> No.56837794

>>56837570
Use StealthX or SwapSwop to swap your btc into xmr. Have a xmr wallet before you swap it

>> No.56838889

Reminder that moonfags get the rope.

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>>56837535
>Where are the cypherpunks today

Underground.

>and most important question what are they working on

anonymized networks & privacy tech

>> No.56840528

>>56837535
One of the original authors of the manifesto is working on surveillance spoofing technology to dilute the value of data gathered. Unfortunately I think he's tilting at windmills given the recent application of AI to data analysis but he's still in the game.

>> No.56840843

Best Phone wallet for my moneyro?

>> No.56840925

>>56822197
i don't sell drugs or 'p

>> No.56841219

>>56840383
>>56840528
>anonymized networks & privacy tech
Isn't I2P already what glowniggers wish TOR was? I remember some voice actor that got redpilled was talking about a "butterfly protocol" where you make multiple accounts with the same name, and make them act radically different via scripting to throw the scent off of your actual net activity. Any thoughts on the feasibility of that approach in our modern day?

>> No.56841322

>>56836153
This is actually a decently candid/straightforward reply, which I appreciate.

And there's obviously value in private, untraceable money, access to darknet markets, being able to donate to whoever without getting persecuted for it.

But there's also value in hiding in plain sight, having access to highly liquid, mainstream markets and people Monero is closed off from, freedom from a constantly inflating US dollar, and the freedom to audit government finances and institutions.

It's not an either or thing, they're both good for their uses. Between Monero and coinjoins I can be as private or public as I want. Some of the best people in the space are involved with both ecosystems, like SethForPrivacy.

>> No.56841837

>>56841219
Yeah that butterfly protocol stuff is what the old cypherpunk is working on, because use of i2p is itself a signal if your adversary can see your ISP's logs to see you connecting on that port.

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>>56841322
>But there's also value in hiding in plain sight

CITATION NEEDED


>having access to highly liquid, mainstream markets and people Monero is closed off from

Uh, what part of "building a circular underground economy" is confusing to you? The entire point of all this is to *disengage* from the mainstream/regulated economy, not integrate with it lmao


>freedom from a constantly inflating US dollar, and the freedom to audit government finances and institutions.

wait, are you one of those Bitfags who seriously believes Uncle Sam will ditch the greenback and adopt BTC?!

>> No.56842149

>>56841219

Mixnets are theoretically superior to Tor and I2P but we're still figuring them out.

https://www.makeuseof.com/what-is-a-mixnet/
https://okonjoymichael1.medium.com/mixnets-what-are-they-good-for-9c739d10022a

>> No.56842200

>gold pumps
>xmr 170
>btc pumps
>xmr 170
>alts pump
>xmr 170
it's all good

>> No.56842387

>>56842149
What's the difference between a mixnet and I2P?From a quick glance it seems like federated, inter-encrypting, garlic routing networks. Which sounds cool, but considering that installing and setting up I2 is already a fag filter, adding more hoops will reduce the userbase to single digits, especially if they make it difficult to outproxy.

>> No.56842569

>>56837364
then go write something in c++

Monero is money, not a fucking platform.

>> No.56843618

what's the best exchange to buy btc with monero and vice versa?

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>>56843618
tradogre has lowest fee, only need an email
localmonero crypto-crypto swaps are the cheapest method on the site, also need an email
>https://localmonero.co/buy-monero-using-cryptocurrency-with-btc

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>>56842387
>What's the difference between a mixnet and I2P?

Mixnets are better at shredding meta-data.

>Not only does the mixnet encrypt message content, unlike any other technology available today it also protects patterns of messages from analysis or surveillance.

I2P actually uses a specific type of mixnet called a free route mixnet, where the user can choose the length and the path of the tunnels and where the messages are split into fixed-size cells and sent at regular intervals.

Mixnets typically have more latency because messages have to be shuffled together first. They use up more bandwidth too.

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XMR Bazzar just had its first demo.

Somebody tell em they misspelled bazzar (bazaar).

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>>56842200
Its depressing af desu

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I made devianart for my monero propaganda images.
https://www.deviantart.com/moneromanifest

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>>56844216
>Its depressing af desu

Only for moonfags.

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>>56844300

The underworld cyberpunk aesthetic is sick. Needs more Monero-chan tho.

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>>56841322
>But there's also value in hiding in plain sight, having access to highly liquid, mainstream markets and people Monero is closed off from, freedom from a constantly inflating US dollar, and the freedom to audit government finances and institutions.
I do not give a fuck about mainstream markets, governments, and financial institutions adopting crypto.
I do not give a fuck about mainstream markets, governments, and financial institutions adopting crypto.
I do not give a fuck about mainstream markets, governments, and financial institutions adopting crypto.

>> No.56844512

Do we ever get to $300? I am just butt blasted that I've heard of this thing at the literal top.

I know this is not a security but his has so good fundamentals I just can't help myself but treat it like one.

>> No.56844612

>>56844054
Surely there has to be a spectrum between privacy and latency. I2P already takes forever to load even the most web1.0 tier websites, I shudder to think what a more secure mixnet would do to that throughput.

>> No.56845020

>>56844612

Its not terribly slower, what's another few seconds extra on the darknet?

Unlike Tor, I2P is a P2P network so it actually gets better with more users, it can be slow because it lacks a stable userbase on account of Tor hogging all the limelight.

>> No.56845041

>>56819092
Dude I run a full public clearnet node. Anyone can access it, tor included. Why does it need to be on i2p?

>> No.56845166

>>56845020
I run two gateways on a commercial line, you're welcome. I just don't know why that mixing tech just isn't added to I2P instead of trying to reinvent the wheel. That other article read like an ad.
>>56845041
You have to prepare for the bad ending where clearnet is fully kosher.

>> No.56845251

>>56845166
The US could simply require ISPs to scan for i2p traffic. Once they know you are sending i2p traffics you could get in trouble.

In the US right now Monero and privacy protocols seems to be in the clear, but I am worried with stuff like the EU requiring websites to backdoor encryption.

>> No.56845273

>>56842009
>believes Uncle Sam will ditch the greenback
No I don't. The US has the most to lose from Monero and Bitcoin, so, in it's current form, would never do that.

But, 90% of people want a "state" to rule over them. Blind compliance with Covid lockdowns, vaccine and mask mandates made that obvious. These threads dont apply to 90% of the population, the only reason they're dissatisfied with the current state is it's doing a shitty job. But if the state were to transform into something more effective, neofeudalism, corporatism, network states, take your pick, and had auditable, responsible finances (instead of the black box of debt), there would be a lot of demand from the masses.

So no, the US probably won't adopt Bitcoin. But other organizations will who will eventually supercede the US. They might even call themselves the US, but will be functionally different.

>>56844439
Land ownership, property, construction, those are mainstream markets everyone wants access to.

>> No.56845413

>>56845273
Can we define what type of freedom are we trying to defend i don't like the fact that we are basically allowing trannys from ultrareliguous countrys to buy hormones

>> No.56845460

>>56845413
How about freedom of exit? The ability to immediately check out from the US administrative zone, or any other such zone, and get membership elsewhere, without having to pay punitive exit taxes, or even move locations (in the case of network states), Mr Lee's Greater Hong Kong, The Monero Free-Association State, you name it.

>> No.56845863

>>56844512
Me too

>> No.56845918

>>56844170
muslims and other esl brownoids always astonish with the weirdest opinions on the english language

>> No.56845977

>>56845460
Thats true with everything being about surveilance, ai and algorithms our systems of opression aren't some visible players like kings but invisible forces like glowies or just the machine itself

>> No.56846144
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56846144

What yours guys thoughts on Zano? Monero Matteo seems to like it alot.

>> No.56846489

pedoincelnazi chud thread, ur coin. ought to be banned.

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ok guys, i bought windscribe vpn with monero, i feel like a haxor

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>>56846754
any vpn other than mullvad/ivpn are honeypots. even then, I wouldn't trust vpns anything other than casual browsing, skirting your local petty internet censorship.

Tor is the way to go. I2P is the ideal.

>>56846489
>pedoincelnazi chud thread
Yes.
>ur coin.
Yes.
>ought to be banned.
Yes.

>> No.56847231

>>56840528
Whats the name of this protocol

>> No.56847358

>>56846144
Personally I don't mind alternatives to monero, but none of them have really been battle-tested. Even if they pass crypto audits, there may be a design flaw that compromises the anonymity set. So unless there are millions of illegal funds flooding into zano, firo, dero, oxen, or any of these other alternative privacy coins, we're not going to see the surveillance regime (FBI, IRS, Chainalysis, CipherTrace, etc) put in a herculean effort to crack them (which would make or break their credibility). It's specifically these adversaries that make privacy coins necessary; if you merely wanted to hide your crypto activity from centralized exchanges or people who know how to follow transactions on the blockchain, then using bitcoin with coinjoin/whirlpool would be sufficient.

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>>56845273
If we are going to assume the government will become based, then why not assume they would adopt the more based coin? If the government remains oppressive, you also want to use the most based coin.

You still haven't made an argument for why Bitcoin is anything other than a stepping stone in the evolution from gold to Monero. When something fundamentally better than Monero starts to gain adoption, I'll move to that in a heartbeat. I'm not arguing the utility of the previous financial instrument instantly goes to zero. I just see a trend in the weakening of Bitcoin's network effect relative to more advanced cryptocurrencies. The only advantage I see for Bitcoin is a lead in the mindshare of greedy bastards.

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>war in Ukraine
>Hryvnia drops
>people hold both national currencies in contested areas
>they return to barter goods for goods like the stone age
use crypto!

https://anontube.lvkaszus.pl/watch?v=EiQKDLhZbd8

>> No.56848440

>>56848010
i don't know, sounds to me like they don't have internet

>> No.56848498

what do you think of anonshop?
is that kind of service a competitor to giftcards/cc ?

>> No.56848726

WHAT THE FUCK
My monero balance just disappeared, it just reads 0 now, what happened?
I'm using exodus wallet

>> No.56848917
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56848917

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1701615114512504.webm

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>>56848726

Fluffypony hacked your wallet, he's been doing a lot of that recently.

>> No.56849928

>>56849874
NOOOOOOOOOOO DONT CLICK ON THE IMAGE IT SWEEPS YOUR BALANCE TO FLUFFYS WALLET NOOOOO HE GOT ME AGAIN!

>> No.56850686

>>56848726
>I'm using exodus wallet
Or maybe exodus wallet is using YOU?

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>>56848726
Restore your seed on other wallet and don't ever use Exodus again

>> No.56850766

>>56847858
I don't think there will be a "the government" the way there's a "the US". More something similar to snow crash, the diamond age, corporate enclaves you can be a member in, or maybe network states. Their predecessors already exist, with DAOs, or Cabin City (collective ownership/access to land spread across the world) that operate on ethereum. If there's demand for enclaves/states that do business in Monero, then they'll probably exist. But Bitcoin is simple, normie friendly, easy to audit, has the most liquidity and network effect, and can be private enough for most uses. So I think there will continue to be demand for it among the masses. But that doesn't mean there won't be demand for Monero too, they can both exist. There are significant populations/markets Monero isn't accessible to, even if they aren't people/markets you personally care about.

>> No.56850797

>>56847858
But I think you're looking for a technical answer to a human problem. Even if Monero has better tech than Bitcoin in a lot of applications doesn't mean the masses will ever care, any more than they care about OpenBSD.

>> No.56851104

I read one of the cypherpunk manifestos and i was thinking is there something that could preserve a socialist state, the guy that wrote it said crypto means anarcho capitalism and therefore a inequality is inevitable, is there a more socialist thinker for the cypherpunks I want a smaller state and i want power to the individual but i don't want that simplistic answer suck it noob if you get sick or fuck off if automation fucked over you.

>> No.56851120

>>56848726
>I'm using exodus wallet
thanks for playing

>> No.56851153
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>>56851104
>inequality is inevitable

the universe is cold and uncaring.

>> No.56851162

>>56851153
Thats why we need to help between ourselves i mean crypto itself is a community of people taking care of each other where the enemy are central powers

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>>56851162

Guess it all boils down to how that help is doled out: voluntarily or otherwise.

>> No.56851507

>>56847231
Last I heard he hadn't published yet, he was just speaking at a conference about the need.

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56852339

i want a beoble channel dedicated to coinmetro to have a constant stream of nice calls and nice cunny posting frens. that's all.

>> No.56852456

>>56848726
>uses a wallet called "exodus"
>surprised when funds leave

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>>56848726
I do not use exodus wallet :)

>> No.56853046

>>56848726
Serious answer: Unless you check the transaction history and see that you got cleaned out by some pajeet, exodus acts weird if you do something on mobile, or another computer, then later pull up the desktop app elsewhere. Just select "reset block height" and set it to like 1-20k blocks back depending on how recently it shows a zero value. I don't recommend having the mobile app unless you manually daytrade and never the web3 version; Lots of reports of pajeet scams. Its also just as likely that you're using it on a new computer and for whatever reason it wants to download the whole fucking chain again before the balance actualizes.
>>56850766
The term you're looking for is "corpofeudalism" or "neofeudalism"

>> No.56853717

ok but when are we getting rich?

>> No.56854123

>>56819058
I bought some 3 years ago and got it in a coinomi wallet. How do I import it in another wallet?

>> No.56854555

Excuse me if I sound stupid but how are cryptocurrency nodes supposed to work in the future when microsoft/apple/IBM are working actively to either brick linux or control the software you are allowed on windows or mac? Also how did big CPU makers like intel and AMD go this long not caring about people mining monero on their CPUs considering these chip companies literally need help from nation states to support their global operations?

>> No.56854910

>>56850766
>simple
sure i'll grant you that
>normie friendly
normies cannot afford to pay a $10 fee for a $5 transaction
>easy to audit
this is not a positive
>most liquidity and network effect
for now. tulip bulbs had these too
>private enough
it has no privacy whatsoever

>> No.56855090

>>56854555
RISC-V open source ISA. They're already in asics using proprietary linux kernels and sbcs with custom builds of debian exist. Soon there will be atx motherboards using an open socket design using risc-v cpus running foss linux. They won't be good for games, but it will make computing cheaper since they can manufacture without licensing fees. Futures looking bright.

>> No.56855417

>>56854555
RandomX is a sufficiently general use of a CPU that you can't cripple it without killing performance.

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>>56851926
>>56851926
>>56851926
>>56851926
>>56851926

>> No.56855681

What would happen if the usa goverment did a debt jubilee, what would happen to the $

>> No.56855785

>>56854910
Maybe it'd be more worthwhile to work out what mass normie adoption of Monero would look like, if it were to happen.
Ultimately there'd have to be a substantial fee network, since inflation via tail emission trends to zero. Higher fees would have to make up the shortfall.
Hosting tens of thousands of txs/second on L1 probably wouldn't be feasible. Even if storage, bandwidth, ram, and CPUs all kept up, it'd probably be cost prohibitive for normies, killing node decentralization. Between that, the necessary fee network, and the need for instant settlement in commerce, there'd be demand for something like a lightning network on Monero.
Either that, or normies would settle for custodians, not ideal, but they'd probably be fine with it, making easy audits a positive. Though I understand audits will get easier on Monero if some of the proposed upgrades go through.
As nice as everyone on earth running their own node and transacting on L1 would be, I don't think it's technologically or socially likely. If Monero hits mass adoption it'll face the same hurdles as Bitcoin. Or it'll serve its core audience while Bitcoin serves another.

Tulip bulbs don't maintain a consistent trajectory for a decade and a half and get accepted as legal tender in entire countries. Lazy comparison.

And coinjoins are super easy. Between that and lightning you have more than enough privacy for the average normie.

>> No.56857416

>page 10

>> No.56857518

>>56855785
>Between that and lightning you have more than enough privacy for the average normie.
Lightning doesn’t work though. It’s literally a broken piece of shit

>> No.56858004

>>56831211
This. I'd rather be poor and correct, than rich and deluded.

>> No.56858045

bros where's the zcash pajeet shill from a few years ago i miss him bros

>> No.56858375

>>56855785
>And coinjoins are super easy.
No they are not. You need to pay 5 bucks per coinjoin. You need to wait for an hour to get the required amount of mix and confirmation. You need to use unorthodox software to do that.

>LN
It doesn't even work. You need to run your own LN server ON TOP OF your btc node. It should never go down. You should have enough liquidity in your channels. You should re-balance your channels. You should pay routing fees while doing that. Your system shouldn't crash or your locked up liquidity goes POOF.

Dude. I fucking hate bitnaggers who shill their un-working "solutions" as if they solve everything.

Get this straight: Btc doesn't work in a privacy preserving and self-sovereign manner, at this scale. 1 MB block sizes are retarded. 10 minute block times are retarded. And total transparency with the transaction information are retarded.

The only reason Btc is pumping is that the system/the state/the jews know that Btc is the necessary evil. If Btc isn't allowed success, then, some crypto currency which is more radical than Btc, like Monero, might rise into prominence, popularity and general use. The system prefers Btc muh more rather than XMR, and that's not speaking highly to the qualities of btc.

>> No.56858501

I think i have almost solved the whole puzzle of the future but the only thing left to resolve is what will happen and what will the usa do about its debt

>the UN trying to supress fossil energy and nuclear energy in favour of a degrowth feminist world

For obvious reasons this will not work, fossil energy needs to be supressed but the rest of the world will get endless cheaper energy improving their living conditions

>commodity prices rising
Metals have been rising the last 20 years and they will keep rising so consumer goy garbage like computers and videogames may get eventually more expensive however energy may become cheaper

>more war as countrys start fighting for more resources and the pollution means more disaster
The western countrys are expending more in military power but the east is basically winning, china has all the batterys, all the renewables and they can outcompete the west on that, russia vs europe well it looks like europeans are overall losing

Therefore the only question left that i have is what would happen if the goverment decided it would be better to forgive goverment debt, or will the usa goverment hyperinflate, can interest rates keep rising and prevent americans from its own internal revolution.

>> No.56858689

>>56850687
I have Exodus halp!
I want to switch to either Cake or Monerujo
Which one should I pick?

>> No.56859108

>>56858689
Monerujo is safer. Cake lets you buy with fiat in app.

>> No.56859190

>>56851153
>the universe is cold and uncaring.
4u

>> No.56859222

>>56858501
>china has all the batterys, all the renewables and they can outcompete the west on that
China is way behind on the most important technology curve which is A.I., dominated by USA

>> No.56859315

>>56854123
>go into coinomi wallet and look for seed
>write down seed (25 words) in some paper
>(optional) write down restore height
>look for a non custodial wallet
>click restore wallet option
>input seed
>(optional) input restore height
>wait for it to sync, if you don't have restore height it might take hours

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>>56819058
Does somebody here have a Monero Mentioned! meme like picrelated but with monerochan?

>> No.56859885

>>56819058
Monero lol

>> No.56860043

dead project or?

>> No.56860082

Damn I could get 100 XMR with my .4 BTC

>> No.56860167

i just boughted

>> No.56860184

>>56819058
https://ciphertrace.com/enhanced-monero-tracing/
hey now post that unencrypted geocities link you fucking fed faggots

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>>56860184
cope

>> No.56861127

Does anyone have the job board where you could actually get paid with XMR for doing freelance work?

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>>56860184

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>56860043
>dead project or?

Yes.

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>>56860082
>Damn I could get 100 XMR with my .4 BTC

Don't do that, BTC is totally going to $100K soon, you wouldn't want to miss out.

>> No.56861555

>>56859222
Ai is not as important as the energy sector and the free software side of things ai is not too far from openai

>> No.56861668

>>56861553
>BTC is totally going to 100K soon
Then IF monero gains back to .01 I would hit 100k with monero, even .005 would make me more in USD

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>>56861668

Jesus Christ, anon, turn on your sarcasm detector. No amount of wash trading or Tether printing can push Bitcoin to $100K at this stage, too many normies have been blackpilled on crypto.

>> No.56862854

>>56862059
What about all that blackrock and EFT talk? Don't you think there won't be another normie fomo when btc gains momentum?

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>>56862854

its waaaaaaaaaaay overhyped, there's actually been a EU-based BTC ETF available for a few months, turns out nobody much cares.

>A Bitcoin ETF Debuts, But Traders Aren't Biting
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2023-08-22/jacobi-bitcoin-etf-met-with-social-media-shrugs-thin-trading-bcoin

Normies have finally started to catch on that the whole thing is rife with fraud and manipulation and is basically a house of cards just waiting to crash.

>> No.56863287

>>56862059
Screenshotted

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>>56863287

>> No.56864162
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How bout the volume spike? We testing the 170 resistance and it looks like if Bull market elevated volume conditions persist, sellers will run out of Monero to sell at this rate. Soon we go to 300 level overnight

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>>56864162

Price talk is so boring.

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>> No.56868754

>>56865421
I also don't want to be rich

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>>56868754

Because talking about price = NGU

>> No.56869698

Gotta be real, it's getting harder and harder to be a monero bagholde ngl.

Is it even worth it if the world ends in 2027?

>> No.56869958

>>56832716
>who?
dunno
>what?
a man

>> No.56869977

im gonna get $1000 of monero.

>> No.56870088

oh neat Localmonero has an fdroid app now

>>56869977
enjoy your 0.001 XMR

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>>56869698
>Gotta be real, it's getting harder and harder to be a monero bagholde ngl.

You know what to do.

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>> No.56871451

>>56870088
More like 0.025 BTC and 6 XMR

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>>56819058
Bros, feedback needed to picrel

>> No.56872837

>>56872085
Is that the Serai logo top left?

>> No.56872991

>>56872837
no it is silroad,
inspiration to all darknet markets

>> No.56873074
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Monerochan Malenia, the final boss of crypto.

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One more

>> No.56873330

>>56819058
e

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>>56869698
>Is it even worth it if the world ends in 2027?
This is the toughest bit. But if they don't pump it before the world ends then I'm just not going to make it - so be it. I think they'll let us have our gains but we won't have long to enjoy them in the current world. Basically have to get straight to work on survival preps.

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>>56872085

Well done, Isis is a nice touch.

>> No.56874955

>>56873074
>>56873214

These are awesome. Keem em coming.

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56875779

Does the Monero community have the best memes?

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>>56875779
>Does the Monero community have the best memes?

How is this even up for debate?

>> No.56876663

for me it's wownero

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>> No.56878813

Good morning, I hate moonfags.

>> No.56878922

I've been in the monero community for a while but I have never tried to order something from the dark web. I found Nemessis market I've heard it's pretty good and one of the onion markets. But something just keeps bothering me, when I want to order something do I just put my real name and address to the order details? It seems extremely counterintuitive to me

>> No.56878980

>>56878922
lol i hope this is bait seriously

>> No.56878984

>>56878922
put *a* name and address, as long as you can receive it

>> No.56879223

Guys please stop posting Monero memes with illegal shit, privacy is a BASIC human right, don't give them any ground to introduce anti-privacy shit because Monero might be used for illegal things. Monero is made to be used FREELY, but that doesn't mean that it's only use case is for illicit activities. I hate glowniggers!!!

>> No.56879499
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>>56879223
>Guys please stop posting Monero memes with illegal shit,

problem?

>> No.56880401

>>56879499
Only glowniggers post shit like this to turn people off of Monero, PRIVACY IS A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT, you don't need privacy for criminal activities - you need it as a basic element of your life. Stop helping the bad guys, it's awful and it hurts the community and the project.

>> No.56880484

>>56880401
Like I said, OP is a fed.

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>>56880401

oh fuck off, the people that actually need and use Monero don't care one lick about its respectability or lack thereof. Imagine thinking that the success or failure of a fucking PRIVACY coin depends on it not having a bad reputation!

Z-cucks been proudly playing the "not for criminals!" card for the past 7 years and we all know how well that's worked out for them.

Meanwhile, bad boy Monero just keeps going from strength to strength even with ever-increasing media attention negatively associating it with criminality, terrorism, ransomware, far-right extremist, etc. You just can't buy that kind of advertising, it implies legitimacy and efficacy.

So go be a crying wuss somewhere else.

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>>56880484
>Like I said, OP is a fed.

Shouldn't you be on the moon rocket? Next stop: $100K!!!!!!!!

>> No.56880920
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56880920

Every time I have to deal with moving large amounts of fiat around or play mother-may-I t withdraw from a CEX I get so angry at the process I buy more XMR or buy something with XMR. Monero really is years ahead in usability as DIGITAL MONEY compared to anything else.

>> No.56881086

never forget what this is all about

>> No.56881471

>>56878922
How else will they send you the product? Would you rather they have your name, address, and financial history?

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>>56881086

>> No.56881702

>>56881578
>Holder of a currency known for illicit commerce is also a gambling addict
Wouldn't have it any other way desu

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>> No.56883062
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56883062

OP feels like he glows in the dark, and maybe we should run him over with a car

>> No.56883133

>>56859315
The thing is coinomi generates 12 words seeds and other wallets ask for a 25 word seed

>> No.56883221

>>56883133
garbage doodoo software, do not use.

>> No.56884799
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56884799

>>56883133
coinomi quit developing, their seed method indeed is annoying but there's an offline tool/script on github to convert it to 25 word seed. However I did not yet manage to get into my subwallets so if you find out how let me know lol

>> No.56885445

i bought in 6 years ago at $200. there’s no way you people are still bagholding all this time right. any moment now, right guys?

>> No.56885665
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56885665

>>56885445
>bought the top
>once
you're the only baggie around pal

>> No.56885970

>>56878980
>>56878984
>>56881471
>Put your real name and address when ordering illegal shit

>> No.56886042

>>56885970
>Please send the package to 123 Fake street
>Why didn't my package come to me?

>> No.56886132

hi anon,

what is a shufflers pool ?

>> No.56886142

when blackrock xmr etf

>> No.56886597

>>56886132
Anon it is a pool of shuffle dancers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1oTUupME0-M
You must be faggot or a thot to join those pools.

>> No.56887715

Who is the hottest XMR chick?

1. Noot
2. Deanna
3. O'Leary

>> No.56887974

>>56887715
4. Monerochan

>> No.56888109

bubbles are funny

I think we should just call them jew pumps

>> No.56888554
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56888554

>>56886142
>when blackrock xmr etf

>> No.56890126
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>> No.56891474
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>> No.56891697
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56891697

MONERO IS TRACEABLE
Finally there is proof. The hacker was caught and funds were sent back. I hope for him it was the police not some mafia goons who electrocuted his balls until he coughed up the missing moneros.

>> No.56891746

>>56821178
maxis are the ultimate cringe
you are literal fiatcels in disguise

>> No.56891936

>>56873074
>>56873214
I dreamt for so long.
My cap was above gold...and fiat, rotted.
Coin after coin, left in my wake...
As I awaited... his return.
... Heed my words.
I am Monero. Soundest of Money.
And I have never known chainalysis.

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56892193

>>56891697

Ha! I predicted this a couple of threads back, that a whale would reimburse the fund.

All's good in tha hood.

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56892224

>>56891746
>maxis are the ultimate cringe
>you are literal fiatcels in disguise

maxipads are a gift of comedy that keeps on giving.

>> No.56892555

>>56891697
sent some of my pocket change over nbd

>> No.56893195

When are we getting rich lads?

>> No.56893601

>>56891697
>>56892193
it sure was the same person who took it.
why would a whale send that amount to a wallet that everyone knows its compromised?
my theory is that they caught the thief and he was probably an inner circle member of the xmr community. Instead of going to the law they decided to give him the chance to give back the monero and not cause more problems.

>> No.56893663

>>56884799
isn't your seed enough to access your subwallets? supposing they have funds ofc

>> No.56893878
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56893878

>>56893601
>why would a whale send that amount to a wallet that everyone knows its compromised?

the funds were sent to the General Fund, not the CCS wallet.

>my theory is that they caught the thief and he was probably an inner circle member of the xmr community.

Yeah? And how exactly did they manage to do that?

>> No.56894497

>>56893195
not now
next bullrun

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>>56874955

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>> No.56895233
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Some variety

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>>56894973
>>56894991
>>56895233

Great stuff. Shame about the mangled hands though.

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>> No.56896403

Any other agorist chads here?

>> No.56896607
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>>56819058
The only idiots who use Monero are privacy-obsessed anarcho-capitalists who refuse to kneel and kiss the boot like a civilized human being.

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>>56896607
>privacy-obsessed anarcho-capitalists who refuse to kneel and kiss the boot like a civilized human being
literally me

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>> No.56898495

page 10 ! wtf!

>> No.56898724

>>56884799
That's exactly the reason I posted

>> No.56898762

>>56854123
why don't you just send it to a new wallet?

>> No.56898824

>>56898762
As coinomi pulled the support of monero after some fork, the wallet is no longer synchronizing. Therefore I can't send the xmr

>> No.56899680

>>56898824
isnt there some tool you can use to convert their gay faggot seed back into a normal 25-word monero seed?

Then just restore that on a real wallet like the desktop GUI and send from that.

>> No.56900735

>>56899680
Pure speculation here but what if you just took their latest release that worked and tried to send a transaction? Our miners gonna reject it? You figure Backwards compatible would be useful. None the less if ya used the regular method that be np

>> No.56901282

>>56900735
IDK if you can have their client point to whichever node to broadcast it. If you can then that should work, if it has to go through their own node then they may have shut it down by now. Never used their shit no idea how it works actually never even heard of them until this shutdown

>> No.56902307

Looks like the hacker of the CSS fund returned the money.

>> No.56903658

>>56891697
The only goons involved were feds protecting their honeypot. At least your cult isn't as cringe as Chainlink though.

>> No.56903733

Do either Kraken or Binance still do kyc-free accounts with lower limits?

>> No.56903781

NEW THREAD: >>56903772
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NEW THREAD: >>56903772
>NEW THREAD: >>56903772
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>NEW THREAD: >>56903772

>> No.56903825

>>56903733
They dont need kyc when they have your device ID and IP

>> No.56905182

>>56893663
>>56898724
subwallets have an offset from the private key
but I don't understand how this should be imported by another mobile wallet. I guess I could try it out on pc but haven't bothered