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Same as it ever was edition

>Educational sites:

>Financial TV Streams:




>Pre-Market and Live data:


>Boomer Investing 101:


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>> No.56792321
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First for I love women.

>> No.56792330

Love women by leading them

>> No.56792336
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>> No.56792337

We love you

>> No.56792345
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Threadly reminder that under debt-based fiat debt is the money, more debt = more money stock = asset inflation. Declining rates were not the cause of ballooning PE ratios, monetary expansion was the cause, declining rates were merely the vehicle for the expansion, now rates are 5% and the debt is $30T, the vehicle for expansion is bond interest. Remember, you can't ACTUALLY borrow from the future, when you loan money into existence you've just created a new fraudulent claim on existing resources, the debt is framed as a future problem so you don't pay attention to the actual real time consequences. Also, money stock has not fallen at all, m2 decline is a mirage caused by the exclusion of large time deposits and institutional mmf's.

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>> No.56792352

i bought. but im jewish, so enjoy your gains.

>> No.56792361
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Can't live with em, can't live without em right?

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>> No.56792389

You can easily live with out them. If you have a spine and call yourself a man.

>> No.56792393

Fucking based

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>> No.56792408

>made 50%
Not bad

>> No.56792410
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>inverse recession expectations indicator
Prepare thine anus

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>Graph begins at 4.4%

>> No.56792419

>If you have a spine and call yourself a man.
>incel mindset
Real man can live with women anon, we've been doing it for thousands of years now its not that bad.

>> No.56792430
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Poem anon anherod... Has anyone seen him post the last few days?

>> No.56792437

Yeah simps still live with women and are incels too. Pussy is a hell of a drug.

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>> No.56792440
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I can't believe everything is shitting and farting for being a a historical average FFR.

>> No.56792453

I told him to leave and he did.

>> No.56792454

man was never meant to live with the same woman in the same house together for 70 fucking years. KEK. People used to die when they were 30 so they had multiple children with a woman and she was in charge of child bearing and housekeeping. That doesn't exist now. Women are perpetually worthless to keep around unless you enjoy being nagged to death and constantly compared to her friends husbands on social media. Fucking living with modern woman is worse than cancer.

>> No.56792466

>being in love with a parasite


>> No.56792474
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What the FUCK have you done?! You've brought ruin upon us...

>> No.56792478

Simps are lowest of the low, imagine paying money for some e thot to read your comment. Pathetic.

>> No.56792479

That's why I only date women who are richer than me heh

>> No.56792480

Simp is a word men designed to passively aggressively deter and shame other men into not giving women attention because they’re jealous of the attention and love aren’t getting from other men. And because they some how think that recruiting enough men to not be nice to women will some how get women in line where as actually the opposite happens.
Only fags, trannys, and men with mommy issues and inferiority complexes use the word simp.

>> No.56792507

Giving women attention alone isn't enough to be a "simp." It's giving women *undeserved* attention.
Loving your wife doesn't make you a simp.
Loving your girlfriend doesn't even really make you a simp.
Donating to a streamer, helping girls who hate you with their math homework for nothing in return etc makes you a simp.

>> No.56792514

Rkg put your trip on

>> No.56792518
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he's very sensitive, you shouldn't do that to him.

>> No.56792526

>spends money on women so she will read some retarded superchat
lmao even!

>> No.56792527

Why do you care what someone else does with their time and resources? If you care that a woman benefits from another man that isn’t you then that’s jealousy.

>> No.56792528
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I donate 5% of my winnings to planned parenthood for black abortions only. do you use your winnings to make the world a better place anons?

>> No.56792531

Thanks for your retarded shit take.

>> No.56792558
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>why do you care if a drug dealer sells drugs to a person
>that's jealousy
Yeah I guess I can't care for society. This is fucking woman tier logic, is this rkg? You are such a female lesbian cuck kek

>> No.56792560
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This might have been the gayest day in my investing career.
A crab day.
Right after an entire week of nothing happening because of the holiday.
What kind of sick fuck is doing this?

>> No.56792565

I'll admit I can't make sense of the rising 10y yield at the moment.
The markets seem to be thinking that they are front running something and I can not figure out what exactly it is they are trying to wish into existence.
There is no indication or rate cuts or a return to qe. Yet the markets are already pricing as if it already happened.
The markets are already discounting debt on a magnitude of several rate cuts.
I don't understand, honestly.

>> No.56792567

lol I’m not lesbian but I should give the preaching a rest. Rkg? Dunno.

>> No.56792569
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Snibbs doesn't take holidays

>> No.56792580

>People used to die when they were 30
This is retarded, the low average life expectancy was due to high infant mortality, if you lived past 5 or so your life expectancy was closer to 60-70.
You're right about the change in responsibilities obviously.
>but how does this affect you PERSONALLY

>> No.56792581

Why would they cut other than
>lol just pump my bags

>> No.56792583

Whenever we have crab days I visualize a greedy goblin sitting on the a computer getting off on making sure the line stays flat.
Ironically this may not be very far from the truth.

>> No.56792589

women want to work and play the role of men. Why the fuck would you want to compete with your spouse. Having a wife is for loving and fucking her and having children. Not fucking competing with her and your neighbors, which is exactly what has happened to relationships. Modern Marriage and married life is a humiliation ritual for men.

>> No.56792605

If you don't remember RKG you're a newfag. She's probably dead now. RIP RKG.

>> No.56792609

That's somewhat throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Men gatekeeping other men into ignoring women and acquiring currency isn't necessarily a wholly bad thing, it's when it becomes about the love of money above the love of life and love and of a woman that it becomes a problem. You get the money so you are something a woman you would love would love. If you're incredibly lucky you find one that will love you even when you have nothing and at that point you're the wealthiest man alive and the money will come whether you want it to or not. Understanding women isn't some impossible thing to do and they are good people and neither is it impossible for them to understand men. It's just hard and a lot of people would rather bitch than put in the work or they've been hurt so bad before they're not ready for a relationship again and might never be.

>> No.56792611

It's not even preaching though, it's just your shitty take on your reality. Simps just is a word used to describe beta orbiters who think being "nice" to a woman will net them a relationship or sex when anyone that's has experience with women can tell you "nice guys" finish last for a reason. I'm not even saying be mean or be forceful, it's just simp behavior is creating an insane narcissistic complex on women which makes them not worth loving and is bad for society as a whole. The last thing society needs is more narcissistic women in it.

>> No.56792622

>how does society decaying and collapsing on itself impact you personally
This is such a retarded take and question

>> No.56792623

I do something similar anon
Yes, like I said that part is obviously true.

>> No.56792624
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He joined the 41% for sure

>> No.56792627

The crabbler.

>> No.56792632

Does this factor in an increase in population/inflation?

>> No.56792638

moonshot up 29% today.


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>> No.56792642

Because it means women respect the rest of us less which is extremely annoying and actually causes serious problems when it gets out of hand.
It's the same reason women slut shame eachother.

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>> No.56792647

Many experts are setting S&P EOY 2024 target at 5000. Thoughts?

>> No.56792658

lol damn those grabblers.


>> No.56792659

It will be 3200 actually

>> No.56792664

also fuck anal ysts and all other rating fag firms.

i buy and then comes some downgrade or bobo report from some useless shitter.

>> No.56792672

It factors in dollars vs dead trannies. That's all I know

>> No.56792679

uhhh source???

>> No.56792683

Sorry anon the board didn't pay extra for the Premier-Pro analysis subscription. You get what you get with basic tier

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now apologize for your crimes so we can pump it

>> No.56792689
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Angels have shown me that future in my dreams.

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I believe we should double our spending on science, space, and technology.

>> No.56792703
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I want to make an actual weekly update as practice for my own financial analyst career.
Would anyone actually watch it? I have like 4 stocks that I'm pretty sure will do incredibly well.

>> No.56792705

died of cancer

>> No.56792723

the most important thing is consistency, to continue making the videos on a schedule basis, keep making them and putting them out - regardless of if anyone is watching them or not
it will be a learning process of making the videos, where they will get better over time - and your analysis / techniques will improve
and suddenly, one video can catch the algorithm, and you get recommended to people, they watch your video, and then when they go to your videos they see you have 60+ made, and they start watching the other ones
even if no one is watching, and the thread is mocking you, keep making them - each one better than the last

>> No.56792748

Bro we watch Rocker here for fucks sake. Of course we will watch your shit too. Just do your best and roll with the punches.

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>> No.56792754

Long as theyre amusing and I get to judge your living situation, i'm in.

>> No.56792759

Alright bros, I'll starting working on it.
I won't have my face in front of the camera though, but I promise it'll be really helpful and educational.

>> No.56792766

In chaos arises opportunity.
Use your riches to build a castle out of the limelight or a ticket to mars

>> No.56792770

Reluctant kneepad girl. She probably did die. Last thing I told her she must be a shitty person because people don't just get cancer for no reason. She always had incredibly shitty takes and was uber dumb. She was /smg/'s low IQ girlfriend.

>> No.56792771

Have a cardboard cutout of your waifu in every video and I'll watch.

>> No.56792783

Based. Yeah try and not dox yourself unless you have nothing to lose. The internet is forever afterall.

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>> No.56792802

Anon is rude,
His manner is brash
Removing frens
Like a bad rash

>> No.56792820
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I miss him so much bros...

>> No.56792822

Poem anon was a bad fren when he wasn't making poems and frogs. A real negative nancy

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How fucking dare you!!! Poem anon is a and and fragile soul.

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SIGA got fucked today (not in a good way) (not in a heterosexual way either)

>> No.56792843

*kind and fragile soul

>> No.56792844
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Today was my first JUSTing anons
Tell me it's gonna get better... r-right?

>> No.56792849

His work was good and I hope he finds whatever peace he's looking for and maybe writes some more. Making art despite his cynicism means there's still good in there.

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They took poem anon from us. Why even live at this point...

>> No.56792868
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We all got rekt today. It was a massacre

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I actually made a little bit of money today

>> No.56792876
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He will pay. Not with his life, but his bussy.

>> No.56792879

I mean you are right, we never got proof it was an actual girl. Could have been just a mentally ill tranny with cancer. There was proof however posted of how bad RKG's trades were.

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I was long on NVDA but sold my position at premarket and went short instead . I BEHEEMED MYSELF

>> No.56792905

I bought SOXL calls today

>> No.56792910

tfw when stocks

>> No.56792913
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This cannot go unpunished. I haven't read a poem for days now, everyday without PoemAnon is like torture.

>> No.56792918

Fuck that. Im starting a new bread so no one knows who I am

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I've already captured the scent of your bussy. You can run but you can't hide.

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I don't know what to buy

>> No.56792938
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It's literally over for you Mr. Rocker is coming for your bussy there is nowhere to run nowhere to hide. End it all before he takes your bussy.

>> No.56792940

What the fuck happened to AMZN after hours?

>> No.56792959

VZ and BTI are still cheap

>> No.56792969
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How does this chart not go violently downwards next?

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Being gay is wrong & a sin.

>> No.56792975

Santa rally
Santa rally

>> No.56792984

Imagine using a no axes label single line chart to make deterministic statements like that.

>> No.56792986

More so is slandering poem anon.

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I look at curves and the curves tell me whats going to happen next.

>> No.56793006
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>Defending the demon that took PoemAnon from us...

>> No.56793032
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You can look at other charts if you would like.

>> No.56793050

VIX to 8 you degen options gambler. Also VIX has been broken for a year.

>> No.56793069

>VIX to 8
On literally what?

>> No.56793076

The Santa Rally, duh.

>> No.56793100

I'll take the word of the Pope thanks. It's a sin but that doesn't and never did mean you should hate the sinner.

>> No.56793124

The current pope is a heretical puppet and a sign of the absolute moral decay of the west and the grip of Jewish manipulation.
Go back

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I hope so, for your sake.
>listening to a communist pope who rejects the gospel
Yeah, no thanks.

>> No.56793136

Poem anon should've bought SAVE. It would've been the only way to save himself from a life of wagecuckoldry, his singular opportunity to continue NEETing it up with a low 7 figs portfolio for decades to come.

Instead, he has chosen the life of a degenerate tech trader tranny. Destined to wildly swing leveraged beta until one day the winds of volatility whip against him. He loses control of his trajectory, the portfolio implodes and burns out a lifetime's savings on his only runway to financial freedom. He sees the last ten bucks in his RH portfolio, withdrawn for a daily soi latte. Knowing it's over, he embraces his fate and returns to the cage, launching an apology tour with all the HR roasties he's blown off on linkedin for months, begging for just one scrap of a new tech salary, knowing that without ZIRP there will be no hirings. His life is over.

Like any ergodic system, eventually, it all returns to nothing.

>> No.56793207
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Another day. Another day of doing "nothing" and getting paid for it. Another day closer to getting my sack of SAVE money. JBlue/Save lawyers started presenting their side of it today. Their witness slaughtered the govt's hack witness that was on the stand early on and held up good under questioning by the govt lawyers. The end game is on. Closing statements happen before Dec 15th. A settlement could happen at anytime soon. I've got my sell order primed and ready. Cause SAVE will fly to the sky once the good news comes.

>> No.56793285

i don't necessarily hate women, i only hate whores
it's just unfortunate that all women are whores

>> No.56793323

my fucking Enter button broke and it is crippling my shitposting abilities. fuck

>> No.56793334

What movie is this from?

>> No.56793382

I dunno

>> No.56793395

feeling good boys
just hit personal ath by a decent margin
about to celebrate with some new music equipment
about to be a long winter and if money isn't for buying happiness-inducing things then idk what its for

>> No.56793428

Hmm I'm off on Dec 12.Right in the window of when they plan to have the trial done. Maybe I'll get lucky and that day ends up being the day the SAVE money falls from the sky. I'll be able to watch the SAVE ticker all day long and plan my exit. Glorious.

>> No.56793432

the markets think inflation is going down = rate cuts

>> No.56793452

"Santa's Slay" apparently.

>> No.56793455

santa's slay

>> No.56793470

>the markets think inflation is going down
inflation is not coming down, or ending.
only the rate of increase is declining, yet remaining positive at all time.
in aggregate, things are still uninterruptedly getting more expensive. even per cpi.
>rate cuts
i don't really think that it's necessarily rate cuts that are being bet on.
rate cuts are a symptom of the underlying bet.
the bet - at least i believe so - is that the fed will stop qt and return to qe while cutting rates along with it.
so basically it's a front running of qe.

>> No.56793473

at least that would be my guess

>> No.56793478
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Was smoking a joint outside my window on a peaceful, and quiet Tecumseh night. All of the sudden a bushy bearded man came to the corner of the cross walk. He had long brown hair, and he was wearing a very nice looking black trenchcoat and tight leather gloves. He carried himself in a manner that both exuded confidence and kindness. He crossed the road smoothly and effortlessly .I think I may have seen Jesus. This is a sign. Poem anon will be back.

>> No.56793488

Stop being a filthy moocher and pay up for the CBOE data subscription you commie

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>> No.56793497
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>rocker is a degenerate drug addict
I might have guessed

>> No.56793500

CPI for last month was 0% increase
Inflation is a done issue (officially)
thats what the markets are reacting to

>> No.56793504

>inflation is not coming down, or ending.
>only the rate of increase is declining, yet remaining positive at all time.
>in aggregate, things are still uninterruptedly getting more expensive. even per cpi.
This. They don't understand that inflation is still rising.

>> No.56793507
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The 10Y isn't rising, it's falling.
Also parts of the curve are uninviting.

>> No.56793512

you guys are both idiots lol

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>> No.56793528

cringe too lmao

>> No.56793543

>spending monies

>> No.56793546
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shut your whore mouth.
when i'm posting, you better assume errors in your thinking.

>> No.56793547


Recency bias is a hell of a thing.

I remember in 2020 telling people we were going to get a shit load of inflation because of the printing, and they didn't listen. Now I've been telling people inflation is done and we might even get deflation, same reaction.

>> No.56793562

drugs are degenerate & bad.

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>MFW I was buying then

>> No.56793575

Dividend stocks, huh?
NVDA seems comfy

>> No.56793581
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>we might even get deflation
from which debt or currency destruction?

>> No.56793608

Learn the terms
The inflation rate measures how much Prices increase over time. That rate has come down. That is: the rate of price increases has come down. Prices were increasing (inflating) over 7% annually and now it's between 2% and 3% annually (the Fed's target is 2% annually). If the rate of Price increases is negative (i.e., prices are decreasing over time), then that's deflation. This is different from the inflation rate coming down. Also, we should actually hope that prices themselves do not come down. Deflation can fuck with the economy since it causes people to stop spending. Next: the change in the inflation rate (2nd derivative of prices over time) doesn't really have a term, but its movement does. If the rate of price increases is going up, then we have rising inflation. If the inflation rate comes down, we have falling inflation or disinflation (NOT DEFLATION). This is what we experienced when the inflation rate was 7% but is now 2-3%.

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I didn't catch the exact bottom but I got really close. Anybody who wasn't going all in with leverage late October should just stop trading it isn't for you

>> No.56793624

Unfortunately you're guaranteed many more JUSTings

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good picrel

>> No.56793647


RRP and some QT, reduced effective broad money since april 2022. I use rate of change of M2 - RRP -TGA on a 1.5 to 2 year lag, and then assume they'll understate CPI by 50%.

This is just one factor, but it's the only one relevant for this recent wave. Very different from other times where there were real oil supply issues. Fracking ain't dead yet.

>> No.56793651

Money velocity increases demand side inflation (what your screenshotted poster calls inflation.)
Less production increases supply side inflation (what we saw in 2020.)

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>the Fed's target is 2% annually
and for the rest there's nothing disputing my final claim that in aggregate, prices are still moving up, even as per CPI. i mean, it's factual, how could you dispute?

>> No.56793668
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Voice changing software sucks and sounds like shit. Plus I’ll totally get dox’d If I don’t use it.
How the fuck am I gonna make an update.

>> No.56793673

>water isnt wet, it makes other things wet

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There are only 4 anons that have the right to @ me. Poem anon, Layne Staley poster, baggot, and scoopies. The rest of you can't be trusted.


>> No.56793676

Holy Kek

>> No.56793682

Make an update.

>> No.56793683

Ok, what's their target then?
And yes, of course prices are always moving up. If they're not, then the Fed fucked up big time and we've turned into a stagnant economy like Japan.

>> No.56793697
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its lower for markets before higher. you heard it here first. the next dip will be the last before a big end of year christmas rally.

>> No.56793698

I'm brainstorming

>> No.56793700
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>Ok, what's their target then?
i've given you enough hints.

>> No.56793727

Are the prices for Stouffers stuff still insane in your area?

>> No.56793749

PPBT. Just filed a patent as a large entity. License deal incoming.

>> No.56793751

thats a retarded definition
more money supply can also mean bigger economic activity
Inflation = rising prices
nothing else

>> No.56793776

As per definition:
>A reverse repurchase agreement (known as reverse repo or RRP) is a transaction in which the New York Fed under the authorization and direction of the Federal Open Market Committee sells a security to an eligible counterparty with an agreement to repurchase that same security at a specified price at a specific time in the future. For these transactions, eligible securities are U.S. Treasury instruments, federal agency debt and the mortgage-backed securities issued or fully guaranteed by federal agencies.
So simply put:
>RRP number go big = cash is being stored at the Fed in exchange of assets
>RRP number go low = cash stored at the Fed returns to counterparty
with RRP number go lower and lower as it is now, more and more of barren currency is potentially returning to the open market.
that doesn't sound "deflationary" or like money or currency is being destroyed.
the RRP more or less seems like a mutual fund for certain market participants only.

>some QT
as per mission statement, the Fed is letting a certain portion of their holdings mature per month at the moment.
now at the time of maturity, the debtor (the US govt or treasury or whatever) needs to pay back the principal in cash.
since the US is running a huge deficit, the cash to pay back the principal of maturing debt has to be attained by issuing new debt (with interest attached).
so for the US govt to pay back $1b in principal to the Fed (the final holder of the maturing bond), the US govt has to issue yet another debt of at least $1b (plus interest attached) to facilitate their obligations.
that again doesn't sound very deflationary...

>> No.56793783

...have you read a single economics book?

>> No.56793796



v = (p * q) / m

If you deliberately understate p then ya it sure does look like v is trending down. Stated another way velocity is just a measure of how out of whack CPI is.

>> No.56793811
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Every time I swing spy puts I see shit like this and know I’m fucked tomorrow

>> No.56793816

he too big brain for that

>> No.56793860

inflation = rising prices
noone gives a fuck about economic books

>> No.56793863

RRP draining is liquidity positive, but not monetary base expansionary as it's mostly an asset swap. What does make it semi-inflationary is it's causing the Fed to accumulate a deferred asset since it's paying out more than it's making on its balance sheet. This deferred asset is akin to deficit spending.

RRP goes up when when 1m yields are below RRP yield, and down when 1m yields are higher. So it's level more or less depends on the level of bills the government is auctioning off. It's where banks go to park excess reserves.

The end result of QT is dollar annihilation. A dollar is liability to the Fed. When their treasury asset matures, they get paid with their own liability. A liability to oneself is moot, thus the dollars returned become extinguished. On it's own a shrinking balance sheet would be deflationary as reserve supply contracts, but in conjunction with deficit spending RRP yield, it's more muted.

Neither RRP nor QT are keeping pace with the gov's deficit spending which is the origin of the new money domestically. They're simply spending money that didn't exist, then retroactively backing it with bond auctions. Bond auctions are the modern mint.

>> No.56793881

inflation = increase in m2
Anything else is a distraction from this.

>> No.56793887
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rocker, you are gay, like actually homosexual
I thought you should hear it from me
this is financial advice

>> No.56793906

so what is the problem if there are no rising prices?

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>> No.56793936

just in abstract or what?

>> No.56793954

Historically rates are cut to pull the economy out of a recession so if expectations are for the cuts to start in early 2024, that's the same things as saying the recession starts in early 2024

>> No.56793979

>The Beijing Stock Exchange has de facto implemented a new policy that prevents major shareholders of companies listed on its bourse from selling stock, worried that such sales could douse a long-desired rally https://reut.rs/3sVhJQH

Soon to come to NYSE

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Ok so instead of reading all that I'm just going to paste this chart I have favorited in TV. Right hand scales are annualized rate of change of each series, top is effective broad money supply, bottom is PPI.

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The problem is the inflation measurements are fake at worst and manipulated at best
Prices are going up for everything the poor amd middle class care about
Society is fucked, buy a sex doll and some food and ammo, it's over

>> No.56793998

Fuck bears and fuck short sellers.
Rig the system to go up forever. Fair market value my ass, who gives a fuck. Korea now up 15% in like two weeks after kicking out all the short sellers. All they can do now is whine on forums about "muh overvalued stocks".

>> No.56793999

Minority shareholders boyos, our time has come!

>> No.56794004

There really isn't one but a bunch of the bullshit they're yanking everyone around with is built on the assumption of rising prices and that all unwinds.

>> No.56794017

So not even a contraction in your money supply formula causes a decrease in prices?

>> No.56794018
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What happens next?

>> No.56794042
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>Historically rates are cut to pull the economy out of a recession
Can't have a recession if the open market is already heavily discounting yields to recessionary levels.

>> No.56794050

Not saying I disagree with you, but JPow has said he'd lower rates so as not to stay "overly" tight. He thinks R* is about inflation + 2%, so there's a scenario where inflation drifts a bit lower and does slight cuts to maintain R*. Not necessarily that it signals recession.

>change from a year ago
>yoy nominal axis
At least show yoy% for something useful.

>> No.56794055

>What happens next?
Everybody's gonna pay

>> No.56794060

a stern, firmly worded warning from credit agencies + a senate hearing in like 20 years or something

>> No.56794062


"long and variable lags"

We are most likely about to roll over into PPI deflation as it retraces what money supply did 1.5 years ago.

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>What happens next?
They kick the can down the road and make things infinity worse.

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forgot gif and still got doubles

>> No.56794072

>What happens next?
gold goes to $5,000

>> No.56794091
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>formerly KTOV

>> No.56794100

clam down, Peter

>> No.56794104

What are the chances that the damage is already done with the rate hikes and QT making a recession inevitable? That's the most recent opinion I saw from what's his name the guy who discovered the yield curve inversion recession link

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I need someone with advanced chud credentials to explain the repercussions of pic related.
If you have ever seen a vagina in person or watched Rachel Maddow you are dead to me.

>> No.56794118

Midwit bears with takes worse than Bed Bath and Beyond baggies
This isn’t your boomer rant general schizos

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> gold goes to $5,000
good. maybe my AEM bags will finally recoover.

>> No.56794133

>vagina in person
well I'm out. Its the end of the petrodollar though.

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Apologize to these men.

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>> No.56794173

so we're on track for the q1 2024 resession
mfw the US dollar could actually collapse in my lifetime.

>> No.56794178

can someone give me the rundown on what happened today? was it a crab market?

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Violent crabbing

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I told everyone here to long the Yen but y'all just called me a porch monkey. See if I ever help you again.

>> No.56794210

Fug... are they going to let their currency float as well, or will they still keep it pegged to the dollar?

>> No.56794214

100% the damage is working it's way through the system. Monetary policy transmission moves at glacial speeds, because the Fed only messes with treasury rates quantitatively and very few entities have access to their target interest rates, which aren't the rates banks do their lending at. They may benchmark, but then there's external risk factors that push credit spreads around. If things were getting better, the BTFP balance would be going down, but it's only drifting higher.

QT is mostly negligible at the current speed imo. The role of QT is to privatize and re-risk the bond market, which makes it less numb to market forces. I think the Fed should be accelerating QT to rip the bandaid off, since right now companies are just reducing worker hours instead of committing to layoffs. It'll just be that much worse the longer the "malaise of meh" lasts, and when all the backlogs run out and companies start having to cut it'll hit at once, probably manifesting in the next 2 quarters of earnings.

March 24 is about when RRP is projected to drain empty, then the cash for new UST has to come from somewhere...

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Zoom out, bro, there's still a long way to fall.

>> No.56794245

It true

>> No.56794283

shoeonhead looking good in that flag

>> No.56794292

Hurry up, we ain't got all night

>> No.56794306
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I like this setup better.

>> No.56794325

feels good knowing I'm not Anthony Burch

>> No.56794335

I think he meant he's long JPYUSD
No, you need to look at the inverse of the pair. Not USDJPY and CADJPY, but JPYUSD and JPYCAD

>> No.56794339

I had to read this twice but very much appreciated anon

>> No.56794351

>I think he meant he's long JPYUSD
Yeah, that. Or shorting USDJPY. Same thing.

>> No.56794363

What if we just expelled the (((bankers))) and started a new Golden age like Spain did.
No more debts.
Confiscate their wealth.

>> No.56794370

>I think he meant he's long JPYUSD
And I agree, same as short USD/JPY, hence further to fall.

>> No.56794379

This Nouriel Roubini fellow seems to really know his shit. I bet he sees vaginas pretty often.

>> No.56794383

OK, what companies are you gonna lend money to going forward?

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>> No.56794433

>I am incapable of seeing anything outside of debt and lending
Oy fucking vey anon, you’re sick in the head

>> No.56794436

One additional piece of info I think many are sleeping on. JPow has talked several times about cutting rates while keeping QT going. The Fed has put out papers on "Balance Sheet Normalization" since pre-2020, and I think that's the next move we'll see from him. He seems to just be setting rates at whatever the market has priced 1 month yields to, no surprises each meeting. If 1m yield drops, he'll cut target rates (and RRP) to keep it from refilling. The only unknown to me is if he'll need to renew the BTFP, since it currently is set to expire in March.

If the market wants lower rates, then it's a sign of lower growth & inflation expectations, with safety earning a premium over risk.

>> No.56794441

Nigga, how the fuck we gonna afford onshoring if ain't nobody lending money? And if you lending out the confiscated money, how the fuck you gonna avoid getting hustled?

>> No.56794452

She could use one of those filters that makes Chinese women look cute

>> No.56794455

Good luck, the Yen is the widow maker.
Can't trust them, and with the fuckery going on in Korea and China, and now in the UAE with oil, who knows what the Japs will do to keep their currency depressed to offset commodities increasing and float their stock market.

>> No.56794457

Get ready for bitfarms $25

>> No.56794465
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We could lend out your mom.

>> No.56794468

>Can't trust them
Checked, but I don't trust any bankster, not just just the Japs.

>> No.56794469

No need to look cute when your job is making announcements of it getting worse by the day.

>> No.56794483

BITF's joining HUT, HIVE, and BTBT in the miner shitbucket. CLSK, IREN, MARA, and RIOT don't have that problem.

Or you can just COIN and chill.

>> No.56794494

>US cant use USD to refill SPR
So what now?

>> No.56794511

>New pandemic
>War to reestablish dominance at any cost
>Jews gone wild for no reason (will happen regardless because fuck you)
>cyberpandemic via controlled AI
Pick one

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Khazar teen milkers in raunchy vids?

>> No.56794525

>United Kingdom detects human case of pig flu

I guess the insult "pigskin" isn't so wrong after all.

>> No.56794535

XOM will take the $.

>> No.56794540

>Israelis own all the ancestry labs and arent afraid to torture and dehumanize Palestinians
Kemono waifu (m) in my lifetime when

>> No.56794541

> 33

>> No.56794578

Fund it.

>> No.56794603

Always confounds me how crazy the market reacts to jobs/inflation numbers wen they're released and then like three months later they get revised in the complete opposite direction but nobody cares

>> No.56794606

reminder to buy shares of TD

>> No.56794615

Made 2.5% in 3 weeks. Need this party to keep rocking.

>> No.56794619

when the RRP is empty, where does the demand for UST come from?

>> No.56794661

Depends which end of the duration curve. Short term UST tends to be entities in high need of liquidity or want collateral with minimal rate-risk. Long end of the duration curve tends to be entities with either long term obligations like pension funds or looking to hedge against long term inflation when parking cash, which could be treasury managers or foreigners hedging their currency with long usd.

>> No.56794701

One more general way of thinking, but any entity looking to invest cash and thinks the outlook on riskier options is negative might find treasury yield attractive for its risk profile. That's why bonds get a bid in bad times.

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It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros

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>> No.56794731
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>> No.56794755
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I'm always nervous

>> No.56794758

how is it possible to be lower than in 2021?

>> No.56794762

for bobos, yes.

>> No.56794763

ask any normie about interest rates. They're literal cattle.

>> No.56794773

When gold breaks out of its manipulated price point the gold hoarders will be filthy rich for 7 days until the Feds raid their houses and kill them for it.

>> No.56794775

Actually QQQ had a bigger bullrun this year than in 2021. that is crazy

>> No.56794783
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Now is not the time for fear. That comes later.

>> No.56794786

REITs are a good buy

>> No.56794794


>> No.56794808
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Get ready...

>> No.56794807
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>IWM is up 2.4% in that time
>SPY is up almost 4.5%
>QQQ is up more than 5.6%

>> No.56794818
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Absolute kino https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRZLYFtvh0Q

>> No.56794819

I'm up like 10% on SAVE in the last week, and scalping the profits to buy options.

>> No.56794828

Because in 2021 it was still harder to relax with the NIGGERS still in fresh memory.

>> No.56794841
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F-for what?

>> No.56794888
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Even in the current year, you shouldn't relax.

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Incredibly based trips. Also long CXW

>> No.56794903

Why didn't they just reverse or cancel the trades Bane made? They were obviously made under extreme duress. Like if I walked into the NYSE and held a dude hostage to sell all of Bezos's stock to charity that's obviously not going to hold up in court.

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What do you think?

>> No.56794909
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Owari da yo

>> No.56794913


On the short end: people fleeing into a safe 5% as the market pukes and it becomes obvious gdp nor stocks are going to perform anything like that.

>> No.56794915

A breakout of the crab range.

>> No.56794922
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Force majeure wasn't part of the plan.

>> No.56794932

Question from a newbie: When are ETF fees paid/due?

>> No.56794940

You get an invoice in the mail each week

>> No.56794954

Interest rates don't matter, that's the secret, sivb should have taught you that the bond market isn't smart money

>> No.56794982

never the performance of the fund is docked instead

so if the s&p 500 index goes up 10% but your fee was 0.5% your portfolio will show 9.5% for the s&p 500 etf

>> No.56794996


Because it was an badly written movie with an incoherent plot.

>> No.56794999

And how often is this calculated? Daily, weekly, monthly, etc.?

>> No.56795015

>trips checked
expense ratio is an annualized rate

>> No.56795044
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does anyone know of a cyclic model for meme magic?

>> No.56795045
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NO! I'm down like 2 grand on that stupid noonstork crap. I'm never listening to shady frogs in mongolian cave painting boards again.

>> No.56795057
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its a constant calculation, they just keep calculating it until you owe them money
That's why all 3x ETFs give negative returns

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>None of the maritime PMCs are public, allowing you to directly profit off Houthi pirate panic

>> No.56795082

$75 stablecoin

>> No.56795084



>> No.56795106
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Anon... this is a Burmese Tractor Racing forum
Where do you think we are?

>> No.56795127

put/call ratio is pretty high at .87

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>> No.56795210

What do you guys think about only making trades when things are way oversold or way overbought via long dated puts/calls?

>> No.56795215

SOXL 30 tommorow

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>> No.56795248

time in market > out of market

buy when you think oversold then forget about it

options are usually a bad idea

>> No.56795251

If it was broken so it could only go down then it makes sense if it was repaired it would only go up

>> No.56795252

>BBBYQ to the moon

>> No.56795267

buying shit you know is oversold has always worked for me. Overbought on the other hand it is hard for me to tell when people are going to stop being retarded and if you are adopting a short position you are on a timer of sorts

>> No.56795268

Slurping giga dips is usually rewarded. I like the ones where there's some Sec news. Those dip real hard and usually recover quickly. Selling into exuberance isn't always as rewarded since rips and rip for an irrational amount of time.

>> No.56795332

it's not burma any more you fucking CHUD it's myanmar!

>> No.56795340

>bobo's shorted the bottom of the next bull run again

>> No.56795345
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Q1 2024

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>> No.56795362

Its not completely decoupled, since the UAE currency is convertible to the dollar. So essentially what they're going to do is act as the merchants for the Russian oil trade because Russia is fed up with holding stinky ass poo rupees that they cant use since they dont import from India and the Indian government has currency controls that make using it a bitch.

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somehow he always does
poor guy

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You can take the Myanmar out of the Burma but you can never take the Burma out of the man.

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>> No.56795420

ah, that makes sense. Thanks anon (although they do a lot of business with the poos, especially currency conversion, and both are still pegged to the dollar, no?)

>> No.56795502

>reduced effective broad money
No. See: >>56792345

>> No.56795566

you're a big guy