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Welcome to the Monero General, dedicated to the discussion of the world's leading decentralized P2P privacy cryptocurrency!

Monero is secure, low-fee, and fungible, meaning users can send XMR around the globe despite corrupt governments or broken financial systems. Innovative privacy features such as Ring Signatures, Stealth Addresses, and Ring CT ensure that Monero's blockchain is obfuscated -- In other words, the financial history of all Monero users is encrypted from the prying eyes of adversaries on a public blockchain, with transactions being visible only by a user willingly providing a view key.

Monero has also improved upon the scaling downsides of current popular cryptocurrencies. To avoid high fees, dynamic block size ensures that the size of the blocks will increase as the amount of transactions increases. Further, the mining network algorithm RandomX establishes that anybody with a CPU can participate in mining, preventing the ASIC miner domination that creates a high barrier to entry. Lastly, the mining network will be preserved by Tail Emission -- instead of the block reward falling to zero like with Bitcoin, the block reward gradually approached 0.6 XMR in June 2022, where it will forever stay. This constant linear inflation means the inflation rate will asymptotically go to zero while continuing to provide an incentive to miners to maintain the network.

If you still have questions, feel free to ask and a MoneroChad will be with you shortly.

XMR Redpill: https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4

XMR Stats: moneroj.net

USE Monero: https://cryptwerk.com/pay-with/xmr/

OFFICIAL WEBSITE - getmonero.org

WHERE TO GET MONERO?

>KYC:
Kraken
Binance
Bitfinex

>Non KYC:
LocalMonero
Morphtoken
Bisq
Tradeogre
Crypto ATMs
see: kycnot.me

>Mining
archive.is/TWOah

HOW TO STORE MONERO?

>Desktop
Official Gui/Cli
Feather

>Mobile
IOS: Cakewallet
Android: Monerujo

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PREVIOUS THREAD: >>56461296

>> No.56554425
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START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL
START MINING IN P2POOL
>START MINING IN P2POOL

P2Pool combines the advantages of pool and solo mining; you still fully control your Monero node and what it mines, but you get frequent payouts like on a regular pool.

P2Pool has no central server that can be shut down/blocked because it uses a separate blockchain to merge mine with Monero. There's no pool admin that can control what your hashrate is used for or decide who can mine on the pool and who can't. It's permissionless!

Decentralized pool mining (P2Pool) is pretty much the ultimate way to secure a PoW coin against 51% attacks. Once P2Pool reaches & maintains 51%+ of the total network hashrate, Monero will be essentially invulnerable to such attacks.

Although many inexperienced miners think that bigger pools give better profits, this is absolutely NOT the case. Your profits in the long run depend ONLY on your hashrate, NOT on the pool's hashrate.


>YOU CAN NOW MINE IN P2POOL FASTER & EASIER THAN EVER BEFORE WITH THE GUPAX GUI. USES TRUSTED REMOTE NODES BY DEFAULT!!!!

1. Download the *bundled* version of Gupax for your OS here: https://gupax.io/downloads/
2. Extract somewhere (Desktop, Documents, etc)
3. Launch Gupax
4. Input your Monero address in the [P2Pool] tab. USE A SEPARATE MINING-ONLY WALLET!
5. Select a Community Monero Node that you trust, although you can and should run your own node if possible.
6. Start P2Pool
7. Start XMRig

VIDEO GUIDE: https://gupax.io/guide/

You are now mining to your own instance of P2Pool, welcome to the world of decentralized peer-to-peer mining!

>NOTE THAT DUE TO BOTNET SHENANIGANS XMRIG IS AUTO-FLAGGED AS MALWARE BY MOST ANTI-VIRUSES, SO DON'T FREAK OUT!!!


OLD GUIDE FOR P2POOL MINING FROM THE MONERO GUI WALLET: https://pst.klgrth.io/paste/eecbe

https://www.reddit.com/r/MoneroMining
https://web.xmrpool.eu/xmr-monero-easy-mining-guide.html
https://monero.hashvault.pro/en/getting-started
https://www.supportxmr.com

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*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****
>*****/XMR/ Monero General Info-Dump*****


Learn more about Monero's key features and excellent future prospects, have some common misconceptions dispelled and discover the cold hard facts about Bitcoin, Zcash and PirateChain. Also featured is a noob-friendly buying, storage and wallet guide.


>Monero: it's what new Bitcoin users think they bought. Every feature, explained
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org


>Why Monero is so untraceable: a rundown of the powerful stealth tech Monero utilizes
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroIsUntraceable


>The Writing on the Wall: Monero replacing Bitcoin as the new standard
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#MoneroReplacingBitcoin


>Breaking News: no, Monero still isn't traceable
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#RecognizingTraceabilityFUD


>Vaporware: why nobody is worried about CipherTrace's magic crystal ball
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#CipherTraceFail


>Very Clever Math: how we can verify that the XMR supply isn't being inflated
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org/#MuhInflationBug


>Pssst, wanna buy some Monero? Follow these simple how-to guides
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BuyAndStoreMonero


>Bitcoin: The Original Non-Fungible Token
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#BitcoinBlackpill


>Why Monero is Better than Zcash: the "privacy coin" criminals won't touch
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#ZcashBlackpill


>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill


>LATEST UPDATES

- added Proof-of-Stake update to Zcash Blackpill
- added list of available desktop/mobile wallets
- expanded all sections with more relevant info, graphics & videos
- added easily linkable headers and sub-headers (link icon to the far right)
- added a new section about traceability FUD

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Never forget what this is ultimately all about.

https://anarkio.codeberg.page/agorism/
https://freedomcells.org/

>Help grow the circular Monero economy: buy/sell goods & services with/for XMR!

https://monerica.com/
https://moneromarket.io/
https://www.reddit.com/r/moneromarket/new/
https://kycnot.me/services

>Live off XMR with Cake Pay (now available in 140+ countries!)
https://cakepay.com/

>or with CoinCards (currently US & CA only, UK, EU & AUS coming soon)
https://coincards.com/


>Monero stickers for guerilla marketing
http://monerosupplies.com/

>Buy silver/gold bullion with XMR (US only)
https://monerosilver.com/

>Monero-only VPS hosting
https://kyun.host/

>Monero-only Airbnb
https://safehouse.homes/

>Win XMR!
https://monero.win/


Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ev2jTUKS


>LocalMonero is now available on I2P
http://lm.i2p/nojs/


Anonymously exchange BTC for XMR using a reputable darknet service

>Majestic Bank
>Infinity Project
https://pastebin.com/raw/75mVpfED


or a reputable clearnet service

https://trocador.app/en/ | I2P: http://trocador.i2p/en/
https://xmrswap.me/
https://unstoppableswap.net/


>Want to support further development? Donate to the Monero General Fund or MAGIC Monero Fund
https://ccs.getmonero.org/donate/
https://monerofund.org/

>Have a particular set of skills? Join a Monero Workgroup and (potentially) earn XMR!!!
https://www.getmonero.org/community/workgroups/

>Want more Monero-chan? Donate to the Community Art Fund
https://www.monerochan.art/

>> No.56554460
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START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
START RUNNING AN I2P NODE
>START RUNNING AN I2P NODE


>What is I2P?

I2P is an anonymized P2P overlay network akin to the Tor network but with several key advantages over it. I2P is now replacing Tor as the go-to darknet and will play a pivotal role in growing the Monerocentric economy.


>Why should I care? Why should I run a node?

Increasing shadow economy adoption and the proliferation of an XMR-only standard are what guarantee that XMR will have a floor and won't also crash to zero when the Crypto Casino finally implodes. XMR's long-term outlook is therefore *strongly* correlated with the darknet, you may have already noticed how the number of TXs begins to drop whenever the glowies attack & cripple the Tor network, which underscores just how critical it is that the darknet wins this war against the State. Make no mistake: if the darknet is allowed to die XMR will take a devastating hit as well.

So by running an I2P node you are helping to make the network Monero thrives in that much more robust while also enraging glowies in the process. Win-win!


>OK, but how difficult is it? Do I have to store GBs worth of data like when running an XMR node?

It is literally as easy as installing an Android app and no, there are no storage requirements, the node only consumes some bandwidth.


>Cool, I'm sold. What do?

If you have no interest in browsing the darknet yourself then the simplest solution is to install & run the I2Pd Android app on any compatible (Android 4.1+) device, ideally a TV box since they don't require recharging and are permanently online. But any old phone or tablet is fine too. Make sure you activate "start on boot" in the settings.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd-android/releases/latest


Otherwise just install the appropriate desktop client and leave it running.

https://github.com/PurpleI2P/i2pd/releases/latest


The console is accessed via http://127.0.0.1:7070/ or the menu in Android.

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>Bitcoin's price = NOT the result of organic real-world supply & demand = NOT sustainable

Wash trading has been artificially driving BTC's insane price action since the first major spike in 2013.

>Wash Trading 101
1. create/maintain the illusion of high volume
2. wait for poor unsuspecting fools to FOMO in
3. dump at a fat profit and leave them holding the bag

When the supply of gullible fools finally runs out, the entire scheme implodes.

TL;DR: exciting price action means nothing in an unregulated market rife with such manipulation, real-world utilization is the ONLY reliable metric of actual value.


>No tail emission = Bitcoin is fucked

Right now, at the current hashrate, miners break even on energy expenses at a BTC price of $22K. Post 2024 halving, that break even point, at the current hashrate, goes up to $44K. If BTC does not go to $44K, miners will be unprofitable and hashrate will have to drop (miners going out of business) to reduce the cost of securing the network, also reducing the security.

If you know anything about the power of 2, you already know that things get very big, very fast. If we’re 3 halvings into 32 total halvings, then the estimated break even point for miners at current hashrate going into the last halving would be:

$22,000 * (2^27) = $2,952,790,016,000 per BTC

$2,952,790,016,000 per BTC * 21 Million total BTC = $62,008,590,336,000,000,000 BTC Market Cap

The block rewards shrink so fast that after enough halvings BTC would eventually require a $2.95 trillion price per BTC and a $62 quintillion market cap to sustain the current cost of $7.15 billion/year.

Even if these numbers were somehow realistic, can you imagine securing a $62 quintillion market cap on only $7.15 billion/year of hashrate? LOL

So basically BTC mining will eventually become so unprofitable the hashrate (network security) will shrivel up UNLESS it is subsidized by BTC transaction fees.

https://cryptostackers.substack.com/p/bitcoin-is-not-a-store-of-value

>> No.56555009

https://old.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/17ncnew/monero_real_talk_shut_down_the_ccs/

it is time to shut it down. The CCS shit show is holding the community back. It encourages monkey behavior. Only monkeys with their tiny hands in the cookie jar continue to defend it.

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>>56553298
here mate:
88snNs5z3REcqkPwjHiJ8211hyhxrkr2W5XBSVh5VaCCDx3CHufQZueRFkGqQSGeoXG2XMyQABsQcgzZE2Q1ERnCUh95qqL

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>>56554410
I am looking for a way to provide services online and get paid on some sort of anonymous account.
Why? I am a visual designer, my country is stupid poor and there are no jobs. I used to work online but taxes are >75% if you get paid in anything other than my worthless currency. This means I spend the time and effort and my government earns the money leaving me at a loss.

I was thinking I could set up a cryptocurrency wallet which doesn't need ID. Then use that wallet to pay a service like Grabr, where a third party is paid to bring me items from another country. That way I can buy clothing and other essential items which would greatly buffer my situation and those who depend on me.
Problem is there is no way to translate cryptocurrency from a wallet to Grabr without a bank account (they have absolute watch over your accounts here). Maybe one of you guys knows how to do it or knows of a better way.

I'll be glad to offer my services free of charge if anyone could help me.
I am not the best designer ever but I do good work. I can also teach chemistry, molecular biology and other scientific disciplines but I doubt anyone would be interested in that, just putting it out there.


Sorry, couldn't make a thread because of course my country is rangebanned or something, but this thread seems like a good place to ask.

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>>56554410
> Monero is not tracea...
https://moonstoneresearch.com/2023/11/03/Postmortem-of-Monero-CCS-Hack
CCS hacker already traced by chain analysis. Monero's privacy is just a shell game, the reason it is allowed to go on is because it acts as a honeypot and it is a joke for state actors to break.

>> No.56555779 [DELETED] 

More and more smaller countries are being pushed into FATF Graylist for allowing retail economy to transact in crypto tokens and/or not outlawing Anonymity enhancing technology.

All electronic devices now come with a security element required for connecting to the internet. There are talks in the G26 to formalize the relationship between Venusia-Qualcomm and national governments.

Second year anniversary for unification of Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland will be celebrated tomorrow.

There are talks to create a new Intermarium Union by the countries disgruntled by the EU.

All six commercial banks in the US have decided to move out of the old and aging FedNow into a decentralized smart transaction platform. Federal Reserve is not happy about it.

1 XMR = 1 BTC today, 1 WOW is getting closer to 1 ETH in nominal terms.

Australasian Union plans to start a pilot program for AID-linked energy rationing.

Continuum, the ID provider for African Union declares bankruptcy. UNHCR bails it out and takes over the operations and functioning of the firm.

Pallium, an I2P based operating system, released it's 8th version Huldu Hermes.

EU parliament passed a law requiring KYC for P2P crowdfunding based on a FATF report from decades ago.

Switzerland passed a law that makes unlicensed modification of proprietary hardware a civil misdemeanor.

Albert Gore Institute for Energy Sustainability (AGIES) submitted it's 17th report on decreasing the carbon production in independent smart cities.

Are all citizens capable of Self-Ownership? This is topic of focus in the winter meeting of Forum Against Corporate Transparency to be held in Frontenac, Republic of Quebec.

Climate Terrorists interrupted the observance of Covid Memorial Day in Brussels yesterday. They protested against the proposal of enshrining regular vaccinations into fundamental duties upheld by European Constitution. The terrorists demonstrated by consuming flesh from animals in front of the parliament.

>> No.56555795

>>56554410
More and more smaller countries are being pushed into FATF Graylist for allowing retail economy to transact in crypto tokens and/or not outlawing Anonymity enhancing technology.

All electronic devices now come with a security element required for connecting to the internet. There are talks in the G26 to formalize the relationship between Venusia-Qualcomm and national governments.

Second year anniversary of unification of Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland will be celebrated tomorrow.

There are talks to create a new Intermarium Union by the countries disgruntled by the EU.

All six commercial banks in the US have decided to move out of the old and aging FedNow into a decentralized smart transaction platform. Federal Reserve is not happy about it.

1 XMR = 1 BTC today, 1 WOW is getting closer to 1 ETH in nominal terms.

Australasian Union plans to start a pilot program for AID-linked energy rationing.

Continuum, the ID provider for African Union declares bankruptcy. UNHCR bails it out and takes over the operations and functioning of the firm.

Pallium, an I2P based operating system, released it's 8th version Huldu Hermes.

EU parliament passed a law requiring KYC for P2P crowdfunding based on a FATF report from decades ago.

Switzerland passed a law that makes unlicensed modification of proprietary hardware a civil misdemeanor.

Albert Gore Institute for Energy Sustainability (AGIES) submitted it's 17th report on decreasing the carbon production in independent smart cities.

Are all citizens capable of Self-Ownership? This is topic of focus in the winter meeting of Forum Against Corporate Transparency to be held in Frontenac, Republic of Quebec.

Climate Terrorists interrupted the observance of Covid Memorial Day in Brussels yesterday. They protested against the proposal of enshrining regular vaccinations into fundamental duties upheld by European Constitution. The terrorists demonstrated by consuming flesh from animals in front of the parliament.

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Reporting in
##################################
Swimng Pool - https://pastebin.com/raw/Mb7Dyg24
IRC - https://pastebin.com/kP1gZ1Hk
##################################
Education - https://pastebin.com/V0SFR8qU
Mining - https://pastebin.com/Rd1V8P5L
Nodes - https://pastebin.com/j6Vv2Xn6

>> No.56556519

>>56555469
>Moonstone Research believes that transaction bb77d…d1a58 was sent by the attacker to some other counterparty. One of these eleven output enotes went to the counterparty, and ten output enotes returned to the wallet. It is also possible that the user performed a "churn" transaction here to themself, though using churning with PocketChange would not be performed by an intelligent actor.

>About Monero Tracing

>Monero tracing is not deterministic in the same way that Bitcoin and Ethereum tracing often is. Monero transactions purposefully impose complexity to their transaction graphs, leading to false positives and ambiguity.

Sounds like monero did what it's supposed to do but some retard stole the funds from some other retard.

>> No.56556552

>>56555466
well, if your goal is to be paid in monero then its pretty easy.
You didn't provide any explanation on how you used to get paid but i guess that in most situation just sharing a monero address with your client would suffice, supposing they are willing to pay in xmr.
when it comes to buying stuff online you have countless options, from 3rd parties like
>https://anonshop.app/
to just converting your xmr to your worthless country currency and then buying with your bank account.

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>>56554410
Yeah right. Invest in Crime-coin! Surely administrated by stand-up folks who absolutely won't vanish to non-extradition countries!
Surely you won't end up imprisoned for investing in Crime (coin).
The laws of space-time dictate that it cannot be unraveled by some spook with a couple hours at a gov't supercomputer! Why, if the gov't had cracked it, they'd take out a 2 page ad in the Times congratulating themselves on it!

Jesus Christ you morons.

>> No.56556610

>>56555469
>>56556519
>traced
So they emit an educated guess that they have identified the transaction number out of the decoys.
No idea who did it, to what wallet, what happened after that, where the money is, etc.

I wouldn't call that tracing. The money is lost.

>> No.56556627

>>56556591
>imprisoned for investing in crime coin
I can't think of a single country where buying XMR is illegal. If you do illegal things with it it's up to you (just like fiat), but buying it, mining it, owning it is legal.

>> No.56556632

>>56555469
i want to see how are these analysis will perform with full membership proofs.
Surely some new vector of attack may emerge

>> No.56556685

>>56554410
Why does this coin perform so badly though? Do insiders just prnt and dump it all the time like sergey does with link?

>> No.56556698

>>56556632
>vector of attack
The people responsible for the wallet being strangely retarded with such an amount of money are to blame to be honest. Attacks are to be expected, and yet it seems they have as much cybersec as my grandma.

>> No.56556713

>>56556685
It doesn't matter really since Monero is made to be used, not to be invested in.
But to answer your question there can be many reasons. Because of the privacy aspects institutional investors stay away from it, it's delisted from most centralized exchanges, and it's pretty much confirmed that one of the remaining exchange is selling paper XMR (allow people to buy XMR that doesn't exist, but not withdraw), thus manipulating the price and making money.

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>> No.56556794

>>56554410
>>56554425
>>56554435
>>56554452
>>56554460
>>56554467
is there any other general which shits out this much copy pasta?
who reads this shit, there is so much irrelevant info
seriously OP, reconsider what information is crucial

same as the; ''XMR Redpill": https://yewtu.be/watch?v=wq6w03E2DS4
>3 year old video done by a very uncanny person who represents a made up company/org with 0 relevance to Monero

these massive walls of text can be reduced to 2 essential OP posts, that's it

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>>56556591
>Invest in Crime-coin!

Crypto isn't supposed to be an investment, moron. The fact that you retards insist on treating it as such is a testament to your lack of financial literacy.

>Jesus Christ you morons.

Don't Buy Monero

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CCS?
>drained
Haveno? Serai? Any working dex?
>no closer than 2 years ago despite all the promises
Seraphis?
>completely stalled
Price action?
>abysmal
Real world adoption?
>*insert screencap of 3 year old news headline which vaguely claimed that an Italian mafia used XMR*

Give it up baggies, its so over for you

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>>56556685
>Why does this coin perform so badly though? Do insiders just prnt and dump it all the time like sergey does with link?

Don't Buy Monero

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>>56556627
>I can't think of a single country where buying XMR is illegal.
China?
But the sole appeal is "moving funds for criminal stuff". It's inextricably linked to criminal activity. It is the crime-coin.
I remember the days when Bitcoin was primarily used for crime, when everyone thought IT was untraceable "trick the government" monies.
Boy did that not work out.
The entire use-case for Monero is "But this one really works for crime!". So stop being disingenuous.

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>>56556830
>Real world adoption?

The black market is the realest market on the planet, pure supply & demand with no State interference.

>Give it up baggies, its so over for you

Didn't you get the memo? Don't Buy Monero.

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>>56556861
Of course it's used for crime, so is USD lol, no one cares.
It doesn't take away that it's legal to own it and use it.

The fact that criminals are using it only shows that it's the most trustworthy crypto for private transactions. No wonder most sellers on the DNMs are asking for XMR.
Good enough for international criminals? Good enough for me.

>> No.56556929

Fucking bump.

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>>56556908
>No wonder most sellers on the DNMs are asking for XMR.

Not only that, as of last month Dread will no longer allow BTC-only markets to be listed there.

The inevitable end of BTC as a black market currency is getting ever closer. And once that happens, the only option left is the white market, which means playing by the State's rules or getting kicked out.

Watch out for the "compliance is good for Bitcoin" cuckfest that awaits.

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>>56556830
b-but... but...
>*shits out more AI generated Monero chan pics*

>> No.56557176

>>56554435

>>The Lowdown on PirateChain: why this Zcash clone is considered a scam
>https://moneroinfodump.neocities.org#PirateChainBlackpill

Round 2 of asking for inclusion of this (old thread closed immediately after posting >>56553486)
https://medium.com/@bacon8227/pirate-chains-0-45-spam-attack-2-months-later-fc351ff3c254

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>>56557176

Tell you what, you write up a brief summary of what went down and I'll add it to the Info-Dump.

>> No.56557316

Ĝi estas finita.
The stolen funds have been sold.

>> No.56557355

>>56556830
and still somehow standing stronger than every other chain under the sun.

>real world adoption
I know right? Its almost as if people use monero to intentionally keep things a secret. BRB going to go hit up the fucking litecoin-only DNM.

>> No.56557438

>>56553298
86sHCUNjfkAJiefyGnw3H7TPyBm2Nd1vWREKRCLoXeTgWtf5uwnTA2fYL2Qyv57uo4dEH64Z18znw4WxphaPEZpE6KRHKkE

>> No.56557507

>>56557186

Sorry if I was obnoxious about asking. Here:

Like Zcash™[1], PirateChain is also highly vulnerable to spam attacks. An attack[2] costing just $0.45 was able to bring the network to its knees, cripple wallet software, and revealed that the network couldn't even handle 10% of its claimed capacity of 31 transactions per second. At the time of writing, this vulnerability STILL has not been fully patched. Most of PirateChain's "largest anonymity set of any cryptocurrency" is comprised of spam.

https://protos.com/zcash-chain-triples-in-size-thanks-to-10-a-day-spam-attack/
https://medium.com/@bacon8227/pirate-chains-0-45-spam-attack-2-months-later-fc351ff3c254

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>>56557507

Updated.

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>>56554410
During these trying times when we rollercoaster through speculative gains, many fine monero moonmen are completely liquidated. Though -2% may not seem like much, when you go 25X you may get cocky and burn. Potential moonmen look for organic buy in opportunities - if we level out (crab) for long periods of time at 160, or if we dip to organic support levels (150, 140). Monero Moonmen will be there, because deflationary decentralized 1 cpu = 1 vote private crypto is inevitable.

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>>56557655

Start your own Moonfag General and leave us alone plz.

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>>56557668
No u

>> No.56558022

>>56557655
>>56557676
I hate moonfags so much its unreal

>> No.56558456

>>56555795
>Pallium
May God hear you, lad. I tried fails and the fact that there's no provision for i2p made it glow in the dark.
>>56556685
Notional transactions, the same reason why gold isn't >10k/toz

TMFD

>> No.56558489
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56558489

Now that Monero has been exposed as a traceable shitcoin here"s your opportunity to jump ship and get with the real deal. ZK-SNARKS aint nothing to fuck with.

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>>56556610
> educated guess
it's probable cause. For the rest, they can subpoena your ISP and see the monero transaction leaving your network and correlate it with the timestamp of the transaction on chain.
> bu-but I still have plausible deniability
yeah good luck convincing a jury of your "peers" (retards) when the state has infinite resources and brings in professional expert witnesses with decades of testifying experience to demolish everything you say. Hope you set some money aside for lawyers, oh wait they'll freeze all your assets the moment you are charged. Well... hope the public defenders in your state are good anon.
Or maybe just pay your taxes and don't engage in criminal activity with Monero, because it's not as anonymous as you think it is.

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>>56559275
Anon just admit you are too stupid to use Monero privately. Monero is a massive improvement on openblockchains like Bitcoin, and yet has the same deflationary principles.

>> No.56559591

>>56554410
when will it go back down? I mean to buy more under 150 but I've been so broke in my daily life lately that I haven't bought. In all honesty I'm banking on a mega crypto dump sometime over the next few months. Historically next ATH would be in 2025, which gives us plenty of time for a hyper dump before then

>> No.56559632

is it true we're helping "bad guys" ?
because if we aren't then something is wrong

>> No.56559759

>>56559571
kys chatgpt pajeet

>> No.56559897
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56559897

What if monero becomes the endgame money of the 21st century because everything financial now is software based and because monero is the one financial system without a fragile corporate system running it it just wins by being the last thing standing other then physical metals? Do monero node owners become literal socially accepted banks at that point?

>> No.56559910

https://moneromarket.io/listing/cf44ce2e-6fb2-43c0-a691-e62b8b13e964

Hello guys. I am offering custom hand made brand design packages for 5 XMR. This includes a logo, a letter, biz cards, and some other misc goodies for your brand. I lowered the price from the market rate of 38XMR to 20 to 15 to 10 and now 5. It's not going any lower than this folks. This money coming in goes to paying for food and expenses as I'm a foreign student, nothing else.

>How it works
You give me the name of the brand and any desired colors along with any feelings you'd like to invoke. I'll make you several mockups/examples of the logomark. I'll keep sending you examples until you decide on something and when you do, you pay for the product. Design materials would be sent after payment, just provide me an email too along with your brand specifications

>> No.56559960

>>56559910
So you’re charging $800 for something anyone can do with midjourney, bing or chatgpt? Are you serious?

>> No.56559974

>>56556965
BTC will be the on/off ramp for XMR. Once XMR is gone from all fiat exchanges. So you go Fiat -> BTC -> XMR

>> No.56560045

>>56559960
>So you’re charging $800 for something anyone can do with midjourney, bing or chatgpt?
I'm not selling my services to pajeets, if you think you can make a good brand with those you are completely delusional. And I'm pretty sure I've answered this same question from you in another thread, I suggest you get some Alzheimer's medication

>> No.56560067

0xMonero transfers privately using off-chain then cross-chain transfers.

>> No.56560132

>>56556552
I'll look into it. Thank you.

>> No.56560533

>>56559974
What’s the most efficient way to trade into btc right now? I may have to tap my xmr funds since I’m recently unemployed. Probably won’t come to that, but I haven’t looked into it for a while.

>> No.56560626

Monero has been compromised kek. Not that private. Too bad

>> No.56560855

Make it and sui stack size?

>> No.56560893
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56560893

Why does monerod use so much memory ?

>> No.56561046

>>56559275
>probable cause. For the rest, they can subpoena your ISP and see the monero transaction leaving your network and correlate it with the timestamp of the transaction on chain.
That's not how dandelion ++ works and your childish summary of how "easy" this is to correlate speaks volumes to how dumb your attempt at fud is.

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56561254

Let's say, someone else make a clone of Tangem with the additional features:

- Open Source
- Supports Monero directly

Will you buy it ? I think seed phrase is the weakest link of crypto. Whenever someone gets hacked, everyone will take assumption that his seed phrase is exposed. Even if your Tangem password is leaked in LastPass breach, the exploiter can't do shit since they don't have physical access to your Tangem cards.

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56561384

>>56561046
> dandelion++
Irrelevant. This will maybe mask your IP from the node operator, not the feds sifting through your network logs. I love how confident you retards are when throwing technobabble around without any deeper understanding of the big picture. Gl in your endeavors lmao

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>>56561384
cute but not as much as

>> No.56561458
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56561458

This is probably really fucking stupid, but can you install an XMR wallet and handle transactions on an android phone? I've only ever used my PC.

>> No.56561590

>>56560893
Idk anon you short memory or something? Don't look like it. I see you make use of swap space sometimes? You do know what swap space is right anon?
Turn it on and off again and report back. ALso note it does run fine on systems with say 8GB of ram, so maybe its just trying to use your spare resources for p2p decentrallization and shit.

>> No.56561660

>>56561590
I'm not not gonna dump my swap because the system does a lot of important things I don't want to crash .

I'm not complaing since as you said I have lots of spare memory and also it hasn't grown over 2 months of runtime. I was just wondering how monerod would make use of 25gb of ram . Is it caching important parts of the blockchain? Can I adjust settings in monerod to increase or decrease the spare memory usage?

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56562010

Ummm, uhhh...

>> No.56562105

>>56561384
I am the node operator you imbecile
If I want to mask my IP I can use tor or i2p.
I have no issue if feds can see I'm running s monero node because there is no way of differentiating my transactions vs other transactions I'm relaying in my own.
You are a fucking retard.

>> No.56562236

>>56561458
I use Cake Wallet for Android. Works really well.

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>>56562236
Thank you

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>>56558489
>Now that Monero has been exposed as a traceable shitcoin

lol who got traced?

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>>56559275

Have you considered alerting the darknet about your conclusions? They still seem hellbent on going Monero-only.

>> No.56563012

How do you get your key stolen?
Even if they get your wallet file, it's encrypted no?

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56563026

>>56559974
>BTC will be the on/off ramp for XMR. Once XMR is gone from all fiat exchanges. So you go Fiat -> BTC -> XMR

Actually, you can use regular bank wires with DEXs, so you can go directly from fiat to XMR.

and why would anybody want to deal with the possibility of receiving tainted coins? BTC is right at the bottom of the swapping pair list, pal, and we now have ETH<->XMR swaps anyway.

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>>56561384
>I love how confident you retards are when throwing technobabble around without any deeper understanding of the big picture.

Well, considering Monero has been in continuous use in the darknet economy since 2016 with exactly 0 admins/vendors/users traced, its hard not to be confident.

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>>56563012
keylogger

>> No.56563299

>>56563003
No one and nothing.
A transaction potentially had its transaction id identified out of the decoys because the guy used a tool that no one else uses, which means absolutely nothing.

>> No.56563307

>>56559974
Actually the preferred ramp is LTC because it's cheaper and faster than BTC historically.
But I can onramp directly from fiat to XMR through Kraken.

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56563649

CBDC will make the price of Monero skyrocket

https://youtu.be/bJxSCtCiCA4?feature=shared

>> No.56563650

>>56555009
Shouldn't have ever changed it from the FFS.

>> No.56563834
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56563834

How will Bitcoiners cope when the Monero Cinematic Universe outstrips every single Bitcoin maxi podcast?


https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1699185779485134.webm

>> No.56563913

>>56562010
k, start your own thread

>> No.56563950

>>56556740
>dont sweep the entire balance of your wallet
How is this an opsec mistake, can anyone explain?

>> No.56564585

>>56561660
Not having memory growing(leak) after 2 months runtime is remarkable. So much enterprise software needs daily or weekly or monthly restarts due to memory leaks. But yes this is the related to caching the blockchain as much as possible, it will use the memory as it is needed, if another program request that memory it will be available and the memory used from momerod will decrease if not it will just still available. There are lot of options which may limit it but nothing I can find directly for memory, probably a combination of logs and -options could help figure out how to throttle (use monerod —help argument) .

>> No.56565518

Ministry for Integrity in Cyber Economy (MICE) of the United Kingdom of England and Wales published a report on the BitIdent crisis.

Last summer UKEW had passed a law requiring the enforcement of AMLCFT measures and FATF Travel rule on all BTC transactions originating from Virtual Asset Service Providers to Self-hosted Wallets. A system malfunction at Trinance VASP ended up inscribing Personally Identifiable Information of over 60 thousand users, such has Name, Date of Birth, Passport number and Biometric hashes into the BTC blockchain. The immutability of BTC blockchain data had created a great uproar in the users of crypto tokens. The malfunction started around 3:30 GMT on 17th April and the Trinance internal software was patched around 16:07 GMT later that day. Today's MICE report is an attempt by the Tory government to calm the waters.

With the UKEW CPI rising to a monthly rate of 91%, citizens consider BTC to be a way to retain the eroding buying power. What many users of BTC do not know is that the blockchain is completely transparent. Blockchains with obfuscated ledgers appear to face continued social stigma. Bank of England (BOE) governor Sir Schlon Mosse said in his public statement today that the BitIdent crisis demonstrates what is wrong with privately issued crypto tokens. He assured that something like that would never happen on the Tally blockchain. Tally, the CBDC issued by BOE, has had a 17% uptake over the past 6 years compared to commercial bank smart currencies.

The report from MICE highlights the fact that there is an urgent need for the government to tokenize physical assets into a centralized blockchain managed by trusted public-private partnerships. Technologies such as Eurochain, Indiastack and American Algon already consolidate ownership and identity details of all citizens in one secure, safe and centralized chain - a technology that the MICE is too hesitant even to explore.

>> No.56566011

>>56563834
>we knew they were coming
>a new world
>an unlimited resource that everybody wants
Fits too well with XMR

>> No.56566194
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56566194

Reminder to buy Zcash if you actually want to make it.

>> No.56566457

>>56565518
and now back to reality:
possession or use of monero is treated with the same punishment as ownership or use of tainted or mixed bitcoin utxos

>> No.56566465

>>56565518
tldr

>> No.56566469

>>56566457
not really because monero is untraceable, so obviously the punishment doesn't exist for a transaction that can't be traced

>> No.56566479

>>56566194
don't agree

>> No.56566591

>>56555009
stfu spiro

>> No.56566626

>>56566457
Same as smelted gold and silver. Womanking going to gulag by default reatrd

>> No.56566725

from where can I buy xmr with a credit card no kyc as an europoor? I previously used moon pay but for some reason it doesnt accept my credit cards anymore. I also found out that stealth ex has the ability to buy crypto but that also does not work (they say my cards are declined). afaik using csgo gambling sites to buy crypto with incredibly low fees requires kyc now

>> No.56566772

>>56560893
Its not "used". monerod asks the OS nicely for spare ram and uses it to cache part of the blockchain instead of fetching it from the SSD every time. If the OS needs the space for something else, monero will give it back without bitching

>> No.56566777

>>56566469
they don't need to trace it only detect that you've used it, somehow. it's no harder to detect if someone has used monero than if they've used bitcoin through mixing protocols.
you end up having to take equal precautions.

>>56566626
yes, in the real world monero does not help you when a government decides to crack down.

>> No.56566812

>>56566777
trace and detect are synonyms

>> No.56566857

>>56566777
I dont particularly care about that, I just want to buy it without kyc

>> No.56566868

Look at this crabbing number of transactions:
https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/monero-transactions.html#alltime

>> No.56566875

>>56566812
You and retard are synonyms.

>> No.56567012

>>56566875
seethe harder at the thesaurus you niggerskin

>> No.56567180

>>56566812
they're not supposed to be in monero, but a mere change in monero's legality makes it so.

>> No.56567234

>>56566868
transaction flooding attacks really doing some heavy lifting there.

>> No.56568451

>>56563834
what is this even supposed to be

>> No.56568607

>>56566725
Try Monero.com.
Otherwise, LocalMonero.

>> No.56569489

they should rename Monero to Wallet Drainer in honor of the latest developments. hope none of you are actually invested in this shiz

>> No.56569560

>>56569489
Some retards got their computer hacked, not sure what this has to do with the currency itself.

>> No.56569686

>>56563026
what do you mean tainted coins?

>> No.56570199

Ideologically what type of freedom does xmr support, is it liberal democracy

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>>56570199
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSrf9j2pvmU

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Icelandic_Commonwealth

>> No.56570539

>>56570199
It's liberal anarchy. But it wouldn't be able to sustain a civilization and wouldn't be adopted in mass so it doesn't matter.

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I forgot the password to my offline wallet after two years

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>> No.56571203

>>56570199
Monero has no ideology per se. Everyone underground uses it. From drug dealers to Hamas to Ukraine to pedos to hackers.

It's a tool. It's like asking what ideology a gun has. Everyone uses guns.

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>>56566777
>they don't need to trace it only detect that you've used it, somehow. it's no harder to detect if someone has used monero than if they've used bitcoin through mixing protocols.

Are you dense? How do you think Tails works? All traffic is routed through Tor. Same thing with Prestium and I2P.

>yes, in the real world monero does not help you when a government decides to crack down.

Utter horseshit, running everything through I2P or Tor = nobody knows you're using or mining Monero. FYI Featherwallet already comes bundled with Tor.

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>>56569686
>what do you mean tainted coins?

>Tainted Bitcoin is a concept of tagging bitcoin associated with the illicit activity as “dirty” and that the tagging will continue indefinitely on that bitcoin despite it being transferred and changing ownership.

>If authorities do enforce these tainted blacklists, the concern is that individuals might unknowingly receive tainted bitcoin, through no fault of their own, and might have their funds seized and accounts blocked should they move it to a centralised authority where you give up custody like an exchange. Alternatively, selling the coins is subject to increased scrutiny before they can make a payment, with a merchant accepting bitcoin as payment.

>> No.56571376

>>56571319
you realize all of this applies equally to a public ledger like bitcoin? do the same things with it and you can hide from overzealous lawmakers too.

>> No.56571380

>>56571360
reminder that all xmr will eventually be treated as tainted coins. if that's not your threat model you don't understand monero.

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>>56571380
>reminder that all xmr will eventually be treated as tainted coins. if that's not your threat model you don't understand monero.

Maybe but at least I'll still be able to spend my coins freely on an ever-expanding online black market. BTC, on the other hand, becomes basically worthless if it's locked out of the white market and nobody is willing to accept it on the black market.

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>>56571376
>you realize all of this applies equally to a public ledger like bitcoin? do the same things with it and you can hide from overzealous lawmakers too.

Using BTC over Tor doesn't prevent blockchain analysis.

>> No.56571448

What is the best onion website to buy stuff like weed and Xanaxs from in Central Europe for XMR

>> No.56571450

>>56571414
and you won't be able to use blockchains that aren't 100% blacklisted because ~reasons~
unsurprising the xmr general spammer doesn't even understand monero's threat model.

>>56571432
you don't need to analyze the blockchain when you treat all xmr as equally tainted coins.
these are some truly niggerbrained points you're failing to make.

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>>56571450

"won't be able to", "tainted XMR" lol we're talking about the black market here, numbnuts, legality and regulations are meaningless.

The only question that matters is: are my coins accepted here?

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56571493

>>56571448
>What is the best onion website to buy stuff like weed and Xanaxs from in Central Europe for XMR

Say buh-bye to Bitcoin and support the growing number of Monero-only darknet markets/vendors.

# = recently launched, exercise caution

>Alias Market #
>Archetyp
>Asur Market
>Calypso #
>Candy Haven #
>Chimera Market
>Cloud Market
>Cypher Market
>Dark Matter
>DrugHub #
>Drugula #
>FilthyFellas
>Gofish Market #
>Mercury Market #
>Pygmalion's Refuge
>Retro Market
>Sonanza Market #
>Squid Market
>SuperMarket #
>Tribe Seuss
>World Trade Center #
Links: https://pastebin.com/raw/ev2jTUKS

>> No.56571515

>>56554410
Is there anyway I can paid a IBAN transaction with monero?
Maybe with bitrefill or something similar?
i dont see monero usefull still there is not a way to monero -iban without kyc or without giving my actual data

>> No.56571538

>>56571482
so you admit you have no idea what you're talking about then.

>> No.56571542

>>56571493
How does ordering from black markets work? I am very skeptical about putting my name and address when I’m about to finish my order

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56571555

>>56571538
>so you admit you have no idea what you're talking about then.

>tainted XMR can't be spent on the darknet

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56571584

>>56571542
>How does ordering from black markets work? I am very skeptical about putting my name and address when I’m about to finish my order

Its essentially the same thing as ordering from Amazon, you place the order and you'll get a package delivered.

Its recommended that you use PGP to encrypt your delivery details, that way if the site or dealer get busted there's nothing incriminating you. But even if there was, the cops don't give a shit about recreational buyers.

>> No.56571764

>>56571584
How can I be sure that instead of a postman there’s gonna be a police officer knocking on my door?

>> No.56571829

>>56571448
>>56571542
If you're stressed about getting caught and you mentioned you want to get weed and Xanax, I'm guessing you're struggling with anxiety. All of that is just going to make your problems worse.

>> No.56571901

>>56571829
I just want to try ordering something since I only used my monero for legal stuff and that’s boring

>> No.56571946

So luigi1111111111 and fluffypony got their wallet hacked and now people are tracing coin that is supposed to be anonymous. Sounds like a shitcoin to me

>> No.56571995

>>56571515
>iban without KYC or giving my data
Lmao how do you think iban (a banking service) works?

>> No.56572007

>>56571764
You can't, it's called a controlled delivery and is rare. Extremely rare for small quantities if not done frequently.
If you order locally it basically doesn't happen. Most places don't care about users, only sellers.

Make sure your house is clean of illegal stuff at all times, especially when waiting for delivery, that way they will lack proof if you are smart enough to shut up.

>> No.56572017

>>56571946
Not traced.
We don't know where the money is. Where it was sent. Who has it. If it moved since then.

The money is lost and unidentifiable. Nothing was traced. Monero working as intended. People retarded as expected.

>> No.56572097

>>56571995
Im reffering to some schema like having a binance account verified with a pre paid mastercard paid with cryptos

>> No.56572169

>>56571764
You can't. but also LEO can't prove you were the one who gave your name and address to an illegal order. Ever ordered pizza for an address that wasn't yours, as a prank or whatever? Same thing. They don't waste their time on people who have plausible deniability. Worse case is your buy from a seller who's actually a fake/cop and you don't receive anything.

>> No.56572460

>>56571360
thanks for the explanation
that's pretty dumb though

>> No.56572459

>>56571360
thanks for the explanation
that's pretty dumb though

>> No.56572852

>>56556830
no one uses dexes bisq volume is about 0.005% of binance's

>> No.56572975

>>56571515
on localmonero
find an iban offer, start the trade, give the trader the iban details

>> No.56573035

>>56567180
can't trace can't detect

>> No.56573057

>>56570199
most faggot nations never experienced a time like the early pioneer united states, it's called freedom you little pansy

or any time when gold was used as a currency

roman times really speak to me

>>56570539
you're a retard, gold sustained thousands of civilizations and monero is just digital gold, it is one of many forms of value

>> No.56573635

There must be something terribly wrong with XMR if it's shilled like this for over 5 years

>> No.56573676
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>>56573635
>There must be something terribly wrong with XMR if it's shilled like this for over 5 years

Don't buy Monero.

>> No.56573720

>>56573676
I never said anything about criminals. If you can be less autistic for a second and reread my post, you'd figure out what I meant.

>> No.56573843

>3 separate literal copy/paste shit-tier fud threads

doing the lords work.

>> No.56573880
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>>56573720

Don't Buy Monero. Problem solved.

>> No.56573892

>>56571555
are you stupid enough to believe tainted bitcoin can't be spent in a world where all xmr are considered equally tainted?

>> No.56573902
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>>56573843
>community wallet not using multi sig gets hacked and drained
>this is the end of monero
quite exhausting

>> No.56574020

God bless motherfucking Monero

>> No.56574023

>>56573892
you can't cash out bitshit bro

>> No.56574033

>>56573892
tainted XMR
mfw

>> No.56574061

>>56574023
you have to be over 18 to post here

>>56574033
outside of pure mined coins all xmr carry mostly equal taint.

as legitimate use of monero has waned the justification to remove it from exchanges and merchants is driven mostly by this fact. if you can't easily track it and it's insignificant enough consider it all tainted.

>> No.56574074

>>56574061
you can't cash out

>> No.56574119

>>56574074
if you think bitcoin is hard to cash out why even bother with monero, which will always be harder?

curious also how most black market and money laundering amenable otc desks want nothing to do with monero, only accepting bitcoin, and various forms of tether.
monero's reality is it's a very tiny and very insignificant part of the cryptocurrency black market, and has not managed to expand past the retail dominated drug markets while things like bitcoin see more activity through its mixers than the entirety of monero does.

>> No.56574130

>>56574119
you will never cash out your tainted coins beta, you are a terrorist and you are connected with hamas

>> No.56574171

>>56574061
im in a (((sanctioned))) country
in hyperinflation where crypto is illegal
you cant taint XMR
1 XMR = 1 XMR
sound money, safe mode
you literally cant track it because (((taint))) doesnt apply here
seethe more

>> No.56574173

>>56574130
you don't even know how monero works, don't pretend to understand how the black market does.

>> No.56574188

>>56574173
I've participated in the black market beta, feds are watching your tainted shit, faggot

>> No.56574190

>>56574171
your incoherent brown iq rambling doesn't change any of the facts.

>> No.56574206

>>56574188
buying some drugs online because you're too much of a pussy to get them in person isn't participating in the black market, sorry.

>> No.56574226

>>56574190
rambling
give me an actual counter argument and I'll shut up
muh brown

>> No.56574258

>>56574206
then you don't know the definition of the black market, little faggot beta, also bought drugs irl, and legally

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>>56573892
>are you stupid enough to believe tainted bitcoin can't be spent in a world where all xmr are considered equally tainted?

lol can't spend what merchants refuse to accept.

>> No.56574560

>>56574206
You get peer reviewed dealers and products on the dark web market places. It’s much safer and much higher quality you absolute brainlet.

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>>56574061
>outside of pure mined coins all xmr carry mostly equal taint.

are you literally retarded or something?

>as legitimate use of monero has waned

lol "legitimate use" is not permissionless use.

>> No.56574633

>>56574601
based

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>>56574119
>if you think bitcoin is hard to cash out why even bother with monero, which will always be harder?

The entire point of a circular economy is to not have to cash out. I know this is lost on you moonfags who only see crypto as a means to amass more fiat.

>curious also how most black market and money laundering amenable otc desks want nothing to do with monero, only accepting bitcoin, and various forms of tether.

lol

>monero's reality is it's a very tiny and very insignificant part of the cryptocurrency black market, and has not managed to expand past the retail dominated drug markets while things like bitcoin see more activity through its mixers than the entirety of monero does.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

>> No.56574704

>>56574635
based
sound money, safe mode

>> No.56574864

trying to restore a wallet and its saying a mnemonic seed contains an unknown word, ruh roh

>> No.56575590

I should have saved the ramblings of that retard europoor sycophant who basically told us that governments and jew banks would start shilling against xmr before cbdc. Does anyone have it? Remembering it is what makes all of this fud so laughable.

>> No.56575621

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/11/05/business/banks-accounts-close-suddenly.html
https://archive.is/R7ygp

>> No.56576044

>>56556205
based

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56576298

Keep pissing Luigi off. He’s about to power the fuck up.

>> No.56577790

I bet fluffy pony was the one that stole the funds. Completely disengaged from all development and interest in monero for years but also one of the two people with access to the wallet. Occam's razor is that he did it. Good thing he's resigning now that he's gotten his fast cash. If Fluffy pony, supposedly a very wealthy man won't payback the ccs following his oversight, that basically confirms it for me.

>> No.56579203

>>56577790
Who knows.
But he's fat, I don't trust him. You can't trust fat fucks, they obviously can't even control themselves.

>> No.56580230

>>56579203

He's not (as) fat anymore

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Getting real cold now, have started mining on my PC during the night when the power is cheaper to heat my apartment and get a few pennies.

Got around 6 cents for 7 hours of mining, but I didnt manage to get msr to be set, will tinker more later because it should double my hashrate.

>> No.56581275

So what is the consensus on the stolen funds now?

>> No.56581291

>>56581275
There is none.
The money vanished, that's all everyone knows.

No idea who, how, or where the money is.

>> No.56581297
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56581297

>>56581275
>So what is the consensus on the stolen funds now?

Won't see them no more.

>> No.56581337

>>56581275
Da moni'z gon'

>> No.56581369

>>56581291
>>56581297
>>56581337
This actually exposes an inherent weakness in being private and untraceable. The fact that the monero community is paradoxically more dependent upon trust than any other crypto community.

As funds can just be stolen at any time it means that all players involved need to do things like identify themselves and "prove" their trustworthiness through other means.

Making all of Monero extremely weak against social engineering attacks. How can developers trust to keep getting paid in the future? How do we coordinate funding sessions etc without trust.

I don't have any solution to this but it exposes the other side of the coin of true privacy and anonymity.

As 4chan shows, anonymity changes behavior, sometimes in the good way (true free thought) but sometimes in a bad way (0 trust and malicious actors roaming free).

Hope there will be some solution to this inherent issue as community fostering and a stable guarantee of getting rewarded for contributing to Monero is extremely important for long term sustainability of the project.

>> No.56581452

>>56581369

Everyone saying bitcoin is gold and monero is cash. Whereas Gold is not traceable and cash is. (every banknote has an ID number on it)

So I would rather see monero beeing gold and bitcoin cash

>> No.56581492
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>>56581369
I always argued that a centralized system for paying development is stupid and only leads to issues.
With influent people like Ercicionne deplatforming people from Monero events for "antisemitism" and Justin Ehrenhofer stating that rules should be made to have less straight White males into influent roles, I don't trust centralized anything even within Monero.

Anyone should be able to ask for money to fulfill a role and people pay what they want.

>> No.56581496

is it quite easy to change XMR for cash in the US of A?

>> No.56581500

>>56581496
Depends on your state, depends if you're okay with KYC.

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>>56581500
im not ok with KYC. also I love that people put stuff like this on monero market. things like energy bars and tinned tuna would be legit.

>> No.56581542

>>56581513
Then LocalMonero. It'll probably be cash by mail.
Going back to fiat from Monero isn't very convenient. That's one of the big issues for darknet market sellers and that's how they often get caught. In a sense it incentives to use the Monero instead of converting it so it's not all bad.

The gift cards thing works really well. Easy to do your groceries and stuff with the Walmart or Amazon gift cards bought with crypto.

>> No.56581565

>>56581542
>Easy to do your groceries and stuff with the Walmart or Amazon gift cards bought with crypto.
that sounds like a plan desu

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>> No.56582818
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Can someone post the monero narratives vs bitcoin image?

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>>56582818

>> No.56582902

>>56582875
Thank you

>> No.56582941

>>56581565
A better way to use them would be adding them to the cryptmi and using from the app. Because they allow you to merge the purchasing power basically. Because they can’t track those vouchers anyway, right?

>> No.56583045

>>56582538
Me

>> No.56583163

>>56554410
i recently bought my first moneros, really just cuz a market i used via btc went down and well needed some xmr. that being said i've meant to buy some for ages to hold anyhow. i used cake wallet - is that a /biz/ preferred method to obtain? i only have a cb account, unless you can trade eth for it on metamask or obtain via some other dex i'm unware of

>> No.56583174

>>56581513
monero market is where fren?

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>>56583174

https://moneromarket.io/

>> No.56583195

>>56583180
based thanks, i'll check it out tonight. waging now and don't have my personal pc here.

>> No.56583210
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56583210

CBDC and social credit system
https://youtu.be/LCziopQJ_4s?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/NXyzpMDtpSE?feature=shared

>There won't be any privacy anymore

Your only chance is Monero

https://youtu.be/MksDc5FYO8k?feature=shared

https://youtu.be/bJxSCtCiCA4?feature=shared

>> No.56583226

>>56581369
seems like you're just too beta to handle freedom

>> No.56583245

>>56581492
>people like Ercicionne deplatforming people from Monero events for "antisemitism"
QRD?

>> No.56583927
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56583927

Volume surging for Monero. Had a slight dip in volume past couple days however that is not continuing with price movement. Starting to look like we are going to hold 160 level. If volume stays high we going up soon, very weak resistance to 175 and beyond.

>> No.56583955

>>56583927
>Volume surging for Monero
it's because people are dumping it for bitcoin

>> No.56583987

>>56559571
Monero can't fix all the privacy problems in crypto; its tech is too inflexible.

Railgun, though, steps up with its own level of privacy and some flexibility. You can shield any ERC20 token in any amount

>> No.56584055

>>56583955
>it's because people are dumping it for bitcoin

Or because people are stacking up ahead of the rally and crazy pump for privacy in the coming bull market.
But your average mind is too retarded to see this

>> No.56584107

>>56574206

And that isn't why Monero is needed. Y'all are the reason why the feds will keep clamping down on crypto privacy.

>> No.56584155

>>56584055
XMR/BTC is at 1Y low now and soon when BTC pumps it will be all time low

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>>56584155
>when BTC pumps

Cool story, bro.

>> No.56585207
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56585207

Zcash is about to take over and explode.

Seething Monero chuds on suicide watch.

>> No.56585231

Monero is good for what it is right now, ie small scale digital privacy coin. The blockchain bloat is unreal though, it has no mass adoption future.

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>>56585207

lol who got traced? You faggots need to pay attention to the details.

BTW, how's the weather in Nigeria?

>> No.56585496

>>56583987
>>56585207
make your own thread, good luck

>> No.56585504

>>56585231
any sources cited

>> No.56586327

Monero core dev is in need of various Jannie’s
>https://github.com/monero-project/meta/issues/921

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>>56554410
My monero was stolen by Bittrex. Am I screwed?

>> No.56587110

>>56586663
What happened? Are they disabling withdrawals or did your balance literally just go to zero?

>> No.56587267

>>56587110
Well they told everyone to withdraw their monero a long time ago but the verification process crashed my browser so I missed the deadline. Much later I emailed their support about it and they told me to fuck off. Now they are in bankruptcy so... lol.

>> No.56587756

>>56587267
It looks like they went bankrupt due to fines from the SEC? You're probably fucked since they'd probably need to sell your assets in order to pay the fine. Don't get it twisted though, the faggot feds stole from you, in the name of protecting you.

If it were a more normal bankruptcy where they had consumer funds but just couldn't continue operation due to debt obligations or whatever, you'd probably be mostly fine.

>> No.56587907

I got a 50ft sailboat that I want to put a big Monero logo on, one midships on each side, plus on the main sail, and call her XMR. I will be located around in the Caribbean the next few years.

Apart from cruising with guests I will be using it as a dive center to go take customers doing guided dive trips and give courses. I have all the certs for everything.

How good is this idea /biz/, your thoughts? Would you join the SV - XMR for a trip? Will normies like it, hate it, or not even understand what it is?

>> No.56588152

>>56587907
normies wont know what that is they barely know what bitcoin is
based man living his dreams though

>> No.56589154

>>56587907
Anyone who gets it will never ever interact with you on the clearnet or post vacation pictures for fear of getting reported to the tax man. If you're fine with that, sure.

>> No.56589345

>>56587907
Sounds incredibly based anon. I don't really run in those circles often, but good luck to you. Normies probably just won't get it. I don't know if your kind of normie clientele would find the Monero logo appealing sans context. I don't really think it aesthetically says "sailboat in the Caribbean". For your logo, if you do want to incorporate XMR, I'd be creative with it. Hire a designer, there is that brandanon guy who has been posting here lately. I think he has a listing on moneromarket too.

>> No.56590065

>>56587907
I'm not particularly paranoid so I would certainly be interested in a diving trip or sailing tour.

Sailboats are neat. Is it a sloop?

>> No.56590850

>>56587907

Sailing Club!

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>>56590065
This is the boat in question

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56592371

>>56587907
>I will be located around in the Caribbean the next few years.

>>56592234

Well in that case just go all the way and fly the Molly Roger.

>> No.56593510

Good morning, I hate moonfags.

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>>56593510

>> No.56594898

>>56592234
Will it be crewed by big tiddied goth women in orange and black pirate attire?

>> No.56595236

>>56593510
I love esoteric moon mythology

>> No.56596145
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>>56595236
Moonero followers sit in an unprecedented position of strength. Pumping volume testing yearly highs, almost too obviously about to explode higher after the sellers run out of deflationary crypto to sell. The baggies expected us to fall to 100 or some shit.
>Moonero
>So hot right now

>> No.56596160

>>56596145
Oh no I mean the mythology of the literal Moon and all the esoteric rituals and history about it

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>>56596160
Yes I speak of the literal moon. Bitcoin is making a return trip as well. What you thought crypto was so you could get rich and not fund a moon mission? What are you talking about, anon.

>> No.56596397

>>56555795
where can you check the wow/eth pairs easily?

>> No.56597376
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56597376

How does it feel to be holding a "privacy" coin that has just been proven to be traceable?

Meanwhile, Zcash is waiting patiently in the wings.....

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56597635

>>56597376

Based MoneroChad fudding for cheapies.

>> No.56599186

https://localmonero.co/?rc=tkb3
everyone click my affiliate link and buy 1 million monero right now

>> No.56599601

How are you dealing with the Monero crash while everything else pumps? kek

>> No.56599753
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56599753

is there any reason I can't swing coins on non-kyc markets for a few years and then trade it for monero and cash that out so I only have to pay taxes that one time

or... will I going to jail

>> No.56599829

>>56594898
By the biggest tiddied goth women of your dreams. Or any other preferences. Although goths typically don’t hang around the Caribbean that much, there’s nothing that can’t be arranged as long as it’s physically possible. All that’s needed is a bit of time to prepare

>> No.56599948

>>56599753
Look up your local laws, but if you get audited, you will have to tell where that money came from and prove it was made legally.
Or just don't cash out and use that Monero. You can do your groceries and your Amazon purchases with it through gift cards.

>> No.56600127

>>56599601
by having a larger frontal lobe than bitshits

>> No.56600286

>>56600127
the browner the skin the smaller the brain, sorry.

>> No.56601485

>>56600286
yes that's you, filth

>> No.56601993

>>56556591
>invest
maxis and shitcoiners are all the same, they don't realise the point of Monero is to use it, not faff around hoping for someone to pump their bags.

>> No.56602042

>>56581369
>how will they get paid
Instead of being retarded and having some giant public pool, just have individual wallet addresses that people pitch into individually. Really not that hard.
>but people will take the money and run!
not my problem, do your dd on the user's contributions before you donate.

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56603199

>XMR for digital transactions
>Gold/silver coins for physical transactions

Im a midwit but this seems like the move

>> No.56603460

>>56603199
PM physical transactions will never be a thing anymore due to easy tampering, impurities, shearing, etc.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methods_of_coin_debasement

>> No.56603492

>>56603199
xmr and silver just speak to me on a very primal level

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56603579

>>56603492
I like the monero project. Bitcoin is simply a virus to take over finance at this point. Its over for their bullshit fiat and its endless debasement, you may actually have normies be able to opt out and buy bitcoin. Users will inevitable learn they are buying into a centralized non peer 2 peer ridiculously open like using http instead of https, deflationary crypto. Monero has huge improvements on the original protocol. Similiarly https is a huge improvement over http. I prefer https, and for that reason - I like the Monero project.
>https://github.com/monero-project/

>> No.56603646

>>56603579
will probably take a while to see any gains desu. im just interested in buying stuff anonymously on the monero market.

anyone know if mymonero is good? ive been using the getmonerowallet but I just want a new wallet and seed phrase. dont want to download the blockchain or any of that shit. just another place to store my xmr

>> No.56603655

>>56597376
it wasn't proven to be traceable. it was an article funded by the FBI claiming that they cracked the big bad monero in an effort to scare people off.

they're scared.

>> No.56604411

>>56603655
>FBI claiming that they cracked the big bad monero

so xmr cucks are now both claiming the government simultaneously claiming they can trace it and having bounty saying they can't is bullish?
these midwits are so clueless about something they're more rabid about than cardano baggies.

>> No.56604694

>>56587907
Dont overdo it with the branding, and definitely hire a designer so that it won't be obnoxious. Otherwise cool idea. 10/10 would have a boating accident with you

>> No.56604729

>>56603646
getmonero dot org has the official GUI wallet. It has a simple mode, where it doesn't download the blockchain

On mobile the usual suggestions are monerujo and cake, neither of those download the blockchain. Do not, under any circumstance, use closed source wallets

>> No.56604828

What shitbox do you guys recommed to make a cold wallet? No network capabilities, so i guess raspberry is not an option. The cheaper the better.
Also, when i create a new wallet, can i choose the words for my seed? I mean, if its just math that you can do with a calculator then whats stoping us from choosing our own mnemonic seed?

>> No.56604901

>>56581492
>Justin Ehrenhofer stating that rules should be made to have less straight White males into influent roles
Just watched a video about the hack and this twink-sounding faggot was on it. My suspicion about him was right

>> No.56604967

>>56604828
MoneroSigner if you want an air-gapped system
>https://monerosigner.com/
Or just make a paper wallet if you want a deep-frozen wallet

>> No.56604990

>>56592234
Anon you're living the dream. I'm a landlubber and I have no idea how to sail yet. But my dream is to have a 50ft bluewater cruiser and just cruise all over the world. Gonna name the boat "Tax Flite" or some other boomer-like pun.

>> No.56605049

How's our favorite $150 stablecoin doing today?

>> No.56605053

>>56604729
thanks. i havent used it in a while. guess ill just use the GUI wallet with simple mode on my offline laptop.

>> No.56605087
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56605087

>>56604990
Solo sailing across the ocean is a really fun genre. Particularly when they're using an old (budget) cruiser.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AZXXKj0p0s

>> No.56605161

>>56583245
Just before Doug Tuman held the first Monerotopia event, he had posted the speaker list and one of the speakers was a libertarian guy who apparently had some based opinions on race and fags. This caused a bunch of other "prominent" monero twitter users to join arms to get this guy kicked off the speaker list (ercicionne, Justin Ehrenhofer, hyc, sethforprivacy, among others). If they didn't outright say that he should have been deplatformed from the event because of wrongthink, they cried that it was a "bad look" and that it would kill monero's image as an inclusive digital currency. Doug caved and removed the libertarian guy, who in response basically called Doug and everyone else that got him kicked a bunch of faggots.

>> No.56606232
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>> No.56607079

>>56599948
Thank you anon

>> No.56607342

>>56605087
Crossed the Atlantic to the Caribbean not long after new years. Not solo, but as captain for a small crew in a much smaller boat. I just recently acquired the 54-footer.

>> No.56607536
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>>56556893
>The black market is the realest market on the planet, pure supply & demand with no State interference.
The legalization of marijuana and its consequences have been a disaster for the price of Monero.

>> No.56607604

>>56604411
Let’s see some proof that anyone has traced a monero transaction

>> No.56607672
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>>56607536
>The legalization of marijuana and its consequences have been a disaster for the price of Monero.

yes, truly an unmitigated disaster.

>> No.56607864

>>56604967
Thanks for the link anon, but i still have the question about the mnemonic seed. Can i pick the words for my seed?

>> No.56607941

Assuming sooner or later there will be a privacy coins season, any microcap privacy coins worth investing?

>> No.56608162

>>56607941
no

>> No.56608319

>>56607672
There are just fewer reasons to use monero (and any crypto) over a fiat credit card for purchases. The Bitcoin-coffee people are delusional. Merchants need to offer discounts for paying with crypto, otherwise it’s better to use visa/mastercard for regular purchases

>> No.56608519

>>56605161
It was even worse than that.
The guy was merely upset at all the covid social controls. His alleged views on race where from some blog that had "screenshots" from facebook on it. You or I could have made a blog like that in 15 minutes.
All the alleged "proof" was at best unproved word of mouth.

Erchingochungus also was an even bigger retard. He collected the Haveno UI funding a few weeks before XMR took a dump. Turns out he didn't hedge for that even though he had to pay the UI team in USD/EUR and was crying how he couldn't pay them because his XMR was worth less USD then.

Between this and the CCS hack it's incredibly astonishing how fucking bad some people are with opsec/money.

>> No.56608767

>>56608519
The Haveno CSS fiasco was probably a net win because it purged that retard from the community. Not only was he one of the loudest criers about Chris Sky being invited to Monerotopia, but he also wanted to cancel Doug for "platforming racists" .

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1699546900074680.webm

>> No.56609104

>>56588152
>>56589345
>>56590065
>>56590850
>>56604694
>>56604990

I really love living this lifestyle, it's perfect in so many ways I don't know where to begin. Sadly my irl friend betrayed me and took all the crypto I had.. Which was enough to buy a couple of these boats.. I really don't know what to do with him for the moment, it's fucked up.

So currently only invested in the boat.. Considering selling it now to not lose out on the run.. But it's also a way to make money so it's a tough decision. Maybe it can turn into something more, I have a few plans but keeping it to myself.

Thanks for the comments, really appreciate it. Maybe you'll be out cruising the Caribbean in not too long.

>> No.56609122

First there was Haveno fiasco and then dev wallet "hack". No wonder we still don't have btc atomic swaps after all these years with incompetent team like this. They will propably rug this coin with their premined coins soon lol

>> No.56609424

>>56608767
yep

>> No.56609447

>>56607941
>Assuming sooner or later there will be a privacy coins season, any microcap privacy coins worth investing?
yes monero clones like XHV, 2000% explosion at best or will remain at this level at worst. move profits to XMR and be ze happy

>> No.56609458
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>>56554410
Am I retarded for having 90% of my 400k networth in monero? Surely the memetic gods of /biz/ will make Monero-chan fly to unforseen highs. Or am I just delusional retard midwit that got filtered by usecases.

>> No.56609523

>>56609458
It's probably not going to make you wealthy but it definitely beats a traditional savings account at a bank. If you view Monero as cash under your mattress it's very useful for that.

>> No.56609944

>>56609458
I'm 1/3rd bitcoin, eth, and monero. Have been extremely comfy for years.

>> No.56610210
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>>56608319
>There are just fewer reasons to use monero (and any crypto) over a fiat credit card for purchases. The Bitcoin-coffee people are delusional. Merchants need to offer discounts for paying with crypto, otherwise it’s better to use visa/mastercard for regular purchases

Or you can just focus on servicing the black market, where paying with credit cards simply isn't an option.

>> No.56610335
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>>56609944
Very comfy stack. I was half btc and half monero at some point recently. I will dump % btc at say 60k and 100k and buy more monero if it continues to hold these organic support levels (160, 140 if everything else collapses etc) .
> 1 cpu =1 vote decentralized private crypto

>> No.56610368

How does free trade work, do things work like in crypto where everything is uneregulated or do you need a lot of regulatory compliant papers

>> No.56610962

>>56607864
As far as i know, no.

>> No.56611320
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>>56610368
>How does free trade work, do things work like in crypto where everything is uneregulated or do you need a lot of regulatory compliant papers

You don't get more free trade than the black market, pal.

>> No.56611846

>>56608519
>Erchingochungus also was an even bigger retard. He collected the Haveno UI funding a few weeks before XMR took a dump. Turns out he didn't hedge for that even though he had to pay the UI team in USD/EUR and was crying how he couldn't pay them because his XMR was worth less USD then.

How it went down:
>I need bunchs of money for le UI
UI devs:
>ok pay me 1 million
...
>price dumps
>Front-end developers rope
>app still works without new and shiny UI
>Erc leaves because racism

>> No.56611901

>>56610210
The black market for what? Without marijuana what else is there on the black market (besides drugs) that has significant market cap?

>> No.56612177

>>56611901
party drugs and stuff maybe? Kindereggs?

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>>56611901
>The black market for what? Without marijuana what else is there on the black market (besides drugs) that has significant market cap?

Are you fucking serious?

>> No.56612504
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>>56612330

Here are the more up-to-date stats. The total addressable market here is fucking massive.

>> No.56612575

>>56612504

Crazy how counterfeiting is an even more lucrative racket than drug trafficking.

>> No.56612690
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>>56612575

Not really. Far, far, far more people are into acquiring fake gear as opposed to acquiring narcotics.

>> No.56612738

>>56612504
what;s funny is bitcoin is still used for orders of magnitude more black market volume than monero because all monero gets are the low level end user drug and fraud deals.

>> No.56612788
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>>56612738
>bitcoin is still used for orders of magnitude more black market volume than monero because all monero gets are the low level end user drug and fraud deals.

Yes, and this will totally not taper off in future as Monero's liquidity improves over time.

>> No.56613072

>>56603460
You can check any bullion coin just with your phone. You do not need sigma metalytics.

>> No.56613104

>>56607941
You can invest some dust in WoW or just mine it. Or even better, create some shitty memes for tips. I like wow and hope it will not die.

>> No.56613131

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>> No.56613140

>>56612504
What the fuck is this graphucks, it's not linear, not logarithmic, just shit.

>> No.56613637

>>56596397
anyone

>> No.56614053

>>56592234
Hey anon, before the thread dies, or in the next one, you should drop an email and public key if you really want to give private cruises.

>> No.56614277

>>56554410
This thread has been up for 5 days! Biz has really died.

>> No.56614506

>>56609122
There was no premine.

>> No.56614632 [DELETED] 

>>56614053

Yes. If anyone is interested in joining the SV - XMR for a trip, please drop me an email at wayout1971@gmail.com and we’ll take it from there.

>> No.56614902

>>56614053

Yes. If anyone is interested in taking a trip on the SV - XMR, drop me a email at wayout1971@gmail.com.

Pubkey: 46BRhrLXPguCSZ5aY5CdkWappdX8ZKbcy5JJr1sgPuTDFWtgwqm7AEFANxkGwv9JbcjiK8HdxUpyqQs8b5zk8ktAAyKy8nU