/biz/ - Business & Finance

[Anonymous No.56524285]

Was anyone here in both the 2017 and the 2021 bull markets, and still haven't made it? If so, WTF is wrong with you?

[Anonymous No.56524296]

>>56524285
I was here in 21 but I got very sick, doesn't matter though I was NGMI anyway.

[Anonymous No.56524322]

Being a midwit is the main reason usually. Doing nothing but holding is too simple and their adhd brains can't handle it so they either try their luck at leverage trading, shitcoining or macroinvesting to appease their egos. Some of them have success but nowhere near the amount of returns compared to low iq btc maxis. This is referred to as bitcoin derangement syndrome.

[Anonymous No.56524353]

>>56524322
I did nothing but held and went from $5k to 300k and all the way down to 20k so fuck off

[Anonymous No.56524377]

>>56524285
Many lost on leverage trading, bagholding shitcoins, rugs/scams, celcius/blockfi/FTX, losing keys etc. but I didn't. I was simply too passive and played it too safe. I thought I was smart for playing it safe. No massive gains with shitcoins/alts that had "no fundamentals" + I fell for the HODL meme. Fuck I feel like a retard. I should've learned from the 1st cycle to buy retarded shit and sell the top but didn't do anything different in my 2nd bull cycle. Adjusting to risk my 10x is still pretty nice but because I started as a poorfag it's fucking nothing. This time I will act different because I've proven my strategy is garbage.
>>56524322
HODL!!1! is peak midwit. All the left curve retards either made massive money or lost it all. Being active in crypto e.g. buying bear cycle lows and selling bull mania peaks, buying coins that are trending, following narratives like ICOs, DeFi and NFTs when there is mania massively increases your chances to hit that one trade which makes you 100x your net worth. You can't make it if you HODL unless you start rich.

[Anonymous No.56524384]

>>56524285
Didn't realize profits and watched it all fade away because I didn't value my life or take responsibility for it. Lots of people here did that; image board lurker personalities are good at holding precisely because they are low agency/ruled by indecision.
Also, the attitude shift that comes from having millions of dollars of liquid capital, even if you don't flex, attracts incessant life challenges and tests of your character. It's really not as easy as you think it should be, and people who stay rich after getting a fat bag completely deserve what they have.

[Anonymous No.56524462]

>>56524285
I got in at the top of the bull market Christmas 2017. Worked 0.1 bitcoin into 3.2 bitcoin swing trading shitcoins. Then lost it all when Cryptopia got hacked. I was holding a shitcoin (Electra coin) at the time on that exchange waiting to sell em so that I could transfer out and buy LINK. By the time the exchange reopened and allowed withdrawals, my shitcoin had gone to zero.

[Anonymous No.56524496]

>>56524285
I held zilliqa
I am financially JUSTd

[Anonymous No.56524557]

>>56524353
cuz u held shitcoins

[Anonymous No.56524561]

>>56524285
thats about all of us still here pal

[Anonymous No.56524565]

>>56524285
its hard to sui stack. takes big cow nuts. I made some pocket money sonny.

[Anonymous No.56524592]

>>56524285
yes. too scared to do the needful.

[Anonymous No.56524600]

i had so much money all of a sudden, and i had no idea what to do with it.

i used it to buy miners because i made that initial money by mining dogecoin for around 4 months when it first came out then gave up and forgot about it.

it was a bad decision to buy miners now because it's a losing game since everyone and their mother is doing it.

the dogecoin millionaire guy said the same thing, he made so much money than he knew what to do with it. he decided to hold until doge reaches $1, but that never happened

[Anonymous No.56524603]

>>56524285
Yes. Here since mid 2017. Buy in must be about 10k over the years. ATH 250k. Current 100k. I think I'm doing ok, most people lose money investing so if your bar is "made it" you're making the game harder for yourself. Try "making profit" instead

[Anonymous No.56524630]

>>56524285
2017 was the first time i put money in the market, it was close to the end of that bullrun - BTC and ICX were my main 2. i'm a poorfag, i didnt put much in (around 3k total) but over the course of the next 3 years i researched crypto and dca'd into BTC and LINK - alot happened in my life and i made alot of shitty decisions that led to financial ruin but learned alot about money. During 2019 i flipped everything except BTC into LINK. bullrun netted me a good chunk which helped me settle all my credit debt before bankruptcy. the last couple years have been chaotic and i've struggled to keep a job. but i learned a ton from last bullrun and i'm currently at square one, no credit, no assets, no gf after a failed relationship - back at the parents since a few months ago and saving a bunch to get back into the market. i'm 32 so hopefully it pays off. i've never had a good job in my life, never finished uni, i seriously can't comprehend people with 6fig salaries who haven't made it from crypto. seeing 30k in my account after last bullrun was the most money i'd ever seen in one place in my life. i truly, deeply, thank /biz/. no idea how or why i found this place and decided to stick around, but its paid off. i love all you faggots.

[Anonymous No.56524641]

>>56524630
Not reading all that, fag
>love you too tho

[Anonymous No.56524642]

>>56524285
as a poorfag with no job since 2017. it was hard and long to get my 13,000 link tokens. i sold 3k since then at vacious prices.

i have 10k link to my name and thats it.

im 33 years old now

[Anonymous No.56524647]

>>56524630
dude you dont currently have 10,000 link tokens?

ouch im so sorry man. im your age but didnt you ever get the memo? 10k link to make it.

that was ingranied so hard in my head i made damn sure never to hold less than 10,000 link

[Anonymous No.56524652]

>>56524557
No I didn’t

[Anonymous No.56524654]

I invested less than $100. Made thousands. All spent by now.

[Anonymous No.56524665]

>>56524647
i wouldn't have been able to get to that point before 2020 anyway due to my financial state at the time, but i did what i could. most i ever held was 860, almost made it to sui stack.

[Anonymous No.56524693]

>>56524285
I literally bought the top of 2017
And I tried swinging during 2021
I am still at 100k

[Anonymous No.56524718]

>>56524647
I'm 18 with 3k, I've posted a couple times b4 but I first saw stinkers when I was 14 and bought a couple hundred with chump change then bought a bunch earlier this year during my 18th birthday with le birthday faggot money. Rest I put into Bitcoin.

[Anonymous No.56524720]

>>56524665
dude, get 1k link now. work two jobs. wait tables get tip money. get a comisiion sale job.

you need 1k link.

you can do this you mother fcuker. you have a few years before link does anything anywaus

and in 10 years you will retire off those 1k link tokens.

[Anonymous No.56524733]

>>56524720
Why 10 years? You don't think we'll see 100 dollar link in the next year? That's all I need to be comfy for now as post tax it'll net me around 200k.

[Anonymous No.56524741]

>>56524718
you fcuking lucky bastard, i would give my 10 k link to be 18 again with 3k link. youre so fucking set already if i was you i would just build muscle mass and find out what im going to be wasting all time on in ten years.

keep them safe when youre my age as long as you have a nice body and nice hair youre going to be a great catch. learn how to date women. get a sense of their true nature.

get your heart broken a few times. see how good they can lie. see how they go hot and cold. ghost. flake. can love you intense one week and next week she loves some other guy.

[Anonymous No.56524746]

>>56524285
I've already made it. I got lucky enough to save 1000 BTC way back in 2010 and i've been living the life ever since 2017. Im just here for the memes. You guys won't get it until you make it but you really start to appreciate your BITCOIN and your OPIUM threads once you make it. Because they're all made with the best humor, the best jokes, the best spirit. Things you start to lack once you make it and after everything becomes "serious"

[Anonymous No.56524748]

>>56524741
I don't want to get my heart broken. I'm incel but 6'3. Although I'm incel because of a lifetime of obesity, finally fixing it (down from 280 in April to 250). Something clicked in my head around my 18th birthday and idk I just feel such a clarity of purpose now. It was also around the time I bought the biggest number of stinkies to date.

[Anonymous No.56524749]

>>56524746
There are so many attempted subtle scams on this board nowadays. It sucks mang. I miss 2019.

[Anonymous No.56524764]

>>56524748
With every 15 lbs I lose, I swear more foids talk to me. Of course, affection doesn't equal attraction but being treated better after a lifetime (moreso in the years where I got really fat, like 230+ which is right during chinkflu till earlier this year) of poor treatment by them and other people in general is great.

[Anonymous No.56524768]

>>56524733
dude you want only 200k? that will go by so fast... dude 10 years is when you wont even have to sell you can live a great life just by staking 1k link tokens.

i see a 30 dollar link at least for the next bull run, link is the only coin that has to keep proving itself to get any damn respect. its literally the only coin that actually generates any fcuking revenue and its kinda sad how little it generates. this is a 10 year hold bro. dont make your goal a shitty 200k. make your goal generational wealth. i had 500k last bullrun and it really felt like nothing,....

[Anonymous No.56524779]

>>56524748
if your 6'3'' start acting 6'3''. walk with you head held high, i know youre only 18 so it might feel weird to mog you elders so dont be apologetic for anything. doesnt matter if your ugly or bald you get respect being 6'3'' start eating only steak or ground beef with organs. and drinking water. be strict on this. after a while see how your body handles fruit. go for walks in the sun, calisthenics. thank me later. have a sober mind always. you can experiment with weed and mushrooms, but not too much. sober mind is best. go ahead and try cocaine if you want but youll realize sober mind is best.

[Anonymous No.56524781]

>>56524768
200k will be divvied up in two chunks:
75% chunk: Rebuy more link and btc after bull market cooldown
25%: living cost after I drop out and move back in with my parents to live a comfy, frugal life.
I intend to spend the next 2-3 years at my parent's home building my body and studying as much literature and math as I can. This past 6 months have been a major re-ignition in my earlier childhood interests, a spark I had lost mostly 6 years ago and completely during chinkflu.

[Anonymous No.56524787]

>>56524764
just wait till your in your prime 30-40 years old with all that link fcuking the hottest 20 year olds. but like i said. you need to develop your dating style. or hire escorts. broken hearts a a part of life. either youre going to be breaking hearts or youre going to be getting yuors broken both suck.

[Anonymous No.56524788]

>>56524768
it's kind of sad but true. 500k gets you a mid house and a couple years of bills/ food after. but then atleast you can build from there and save more for investments and retirement because youre not paying rent.

[Anonymous No.56524789]

>>56524779
My whole life I spoke to people while not looking at their eyes, I didn't even realize it until very recently. I have always been taller than most yet I move out of the way for other people and I feel as if I have always lacked some sort of aggression. Being an obese fuck from 4-18 (after 10 more lbs I will no longer be obese and be 29 point something BMI again, after 4 years almost) causes you to be a self deprecating fuck. I started reading some old school PUA shit (not for women advice just for confidence advice, I am too much of a romantic to PUA with women, and that is a part of me I don't want to lose) and I feel so much more confidence. Being fasted also makes me so much more confident, if only my parents had told me this basic shit man.

[Anonymous No.56524801]

>>56524285
Nothing matters, not even money.

[Anonymous No.56524804]

>>56524779
Oh anon, I hate drugs, not because I'm some prude or something I just see others who do them IRL and they are all retarded. No offense if you have, you seem to be an obviously better man than them.

>>56524787
Losing my romantic soul is the one thing I don't want to leave behind anon. It is the one thing that I realize is stupid, but it is the one thing that makes me, me. I can't do that anon, if a girl is not a sweet virgin idk if I could love her, much less put my phallus inside her.

[Anonymous No.56524817]

>>56524804
women don't want romance anon. they want what you want - wealth and sex every once and a while. the only difference is they don't think they have to earn it themselves and want you to do it for them, in exchange for your heart.

[Anonymous No.56524818]

>>56524781
i live at home too anon a frugal life. eating only the highest quality foods. steak , raw milk, organic fruit and honey, no stress no kids. im so cozy i dont need to drink, smoke anymore.

im healed and built my body. living at home.

and good luck profiting off studying literature and math. i envy that you enjoy that shit really.

i would just work hard to get 1k link tokens asap.

[Anonymous No.56524839]

>>56524789
youll find your confidence. don't even worry about it. i felt my worse when i was fat too... never again. you have one body take care of it. and most important. take good care of your teeth too bro. please. at 33 it really sucks having to get teeth extracted and 5,000 dollar implants. no one told me how fast processed foods soda rot your teeth. its mostly diet. fruit and meat are very gentle on the teeth.

[Anonymous No.56524851]

>>56524285
I was messing around with Bitcoin, litecoin and feather coin even in 2012 lol. I was so poor that I would buy like $10 at a time. First Bitcoin when it was $100. Forgot about it all for a few years and missed out on eth bull run. Came back just in time for Link. Been holding bags ever since. High risk aversion and being poor is how you become a loser like me. Keep in mind back in the early days no one thought it could do what it did.

[Anonymous No.56524854]

2017: made profits by buying XEM at a very low price (was once a top 10 coin). Held ETH and made crazy profits with its airdrops and ICOs.

2021: just made small profits because swing trading and leveraged during the bear market. didn't get into Defi and NFT hype. Didn't make it mainly because of the bear market PTSD and tether narratives.

[Anonymous No.56524855]

>>56524789
and make the sun your best freind. i literally spend at least an hour a day in the sun barefoot. i wish my parents told me that. >>56524804
anon, i know what you mean, i had one virgin girl, and she loved me the best i have ever been loved in my life she was the only girl that didnt play games. she was the only girl that i was able to trust. sadly she was half black and i just could not see myself making kids with her. so i had to let her go. good for you on wanting to love a virgin i respect that. and i can tell you waiting for one would be perfect. but make sure she is actually a virgin and not a born again virgin. if she is actually a virgin her pussy will be so tight you wont even be able to stick you dick in it it will hurt her at first so it might take a few attempts at sex.

[Anonymous No.56524856]

>>56524818
I have 0.15 btc (pitiful I know lol but hey, I bought it at 20,000) and 2300 stinks. At a minorly optimistic bull run scenario (43$ stinkies, 50 something at post tax) I will hit 6 figs.

>and good luck profiting off studying literature and math.
Between age 8-12 I used to read almost 40 books a week.
When I was 12 I got really fat, my family moved, and I got a phone and something in my mind just got destroyed. IDK what it was I just got extremely blackpilled and completely stopped reading and studying and got decent grades the next 5 years solely off of minimum work and the inertia of all the learning I did during 8-12. And even though my looks recovered in the next year and a half as I outgrew the weight gain (was 5'10 200 lbs at 13) the mental damage was done. I hated myself so much it was genuinely unreal, roasties would tell me they liked me and I didn't understand how I would debate myself back and forth in my head. That was the problem, I was stuck in my head.
Looking back even as a fatass confidence would've taken me so far. But hindsight is a 20/20; I was a sensitive "gifted kid" faggot and it really hurt me to realize that the others around me were judgemental faggot low iq idiots and that succumbing to their views was entirely stupid because they were genuinely inferior to me. ALL I had to do was be confident. It took me 18 years to realize that but I eventually did, I feel good most of the time now. When I speak to others I always catch myself looking at their nose or in the middle of their eyes instead of in their eyes. I could've done this years ago but I was stuck in my head, as I am and was too cerebral.
Fortunately, I see the light at the end of the tunnel for my turmoil.
I will probably always be a neurotic, sensitive person at some degree but as my body heals so will my mind feel better.
Thank you for your advice anon.

[Anonymous No.56524865]

>>56524856
>2300
3000
2300 is what I had in April, I made my final purchase of stinks two months ago after I got a job. I have more money saved now and I'm debating about just putting it all in link and mildly leeching off my dad for food money (Cafeteria food is not caloric enough for someone as large as me, and my dad understands this issue and he'll probably help me out kek. He says when he was in college he had the exact same problem)

[Anonymous No.56524877]

>>56524855
>anon, i know what you mean, i had one virgin girl, and she loved me the best i have ever been loved in my life she was the only girl that didnt play games. she was the only girl that i was able to trust. sadly she was half black and i just could not see myself making kids with her. so i had to let her go. good for you on wanting to love a virgin i respect that. and i can tell you waiting for one would be perfect. but make sure she is actually a virgin and not a born again virgin. if she is actually a virgin her pussy will be so tight you wont even be able to stick you dick in it it will hurt her at first so it might take a few attempts at sex.
Won't you get blood on your cawk if you have sex with a genuine virgin? A born again virgin is not a virgin lol.
And your situation sucks man, that feels really bad but your reasoning was absolutely correct too. In your case, your happiness would've sacrificed your children's happiness by making them quadroons and would've meant breaking an unbroken racial lineage. But I hope you find another virgin, hopefully White this time.

[Anonymous No.56524917]

>>56524285
Made 1m. Could've made more, but was too safe about it, sticking mostly with ETH and BTC, didn't hold my alts that mega-mooned long enough before converting them back.

[Anonymous No.56524926]

>>56524720
i'll get to 1k gambling on shitcoins this bullrun. i played it really safe last time. aiming for 300k, some of which will be put in link after the dump until it hits its fabled mcap.

[Anonymous No.56524929]

>>56524285
I was in 2017 but started a business after. Sat there wondering in 2019 what I should do, but am overall happy and have made more with the business than BTC, but it doesn’t really feel like it because it gets reinvested into business growth and I feel poor and work a lot. But it’s way more fun. If I had went into BTC instead I’d probably have lost it by now anyway or gotten retarded. I started a farm btw

[Anonymous No.56524934]

>>56524817
Isn't there at least one girl out there that does though? They can't all be evil whores?

[Anonymous No.56524957]

>>56524934
if she exists (she doesn't, they're all the same just some have pay to win skins) she's unironically a goddess and wouldn't be able to live a basic life - in other words she'd be too good for you or anyone. cinema is a hodge podge of scenes making a highlight reel of a scripted relationship. irl has alot of downtime and several decades worth of commitment. can you write a screenplay thats perfectly romantic and lasts 30+ years? neither can she.

[Anonymous No.56525070]

>discovered bitcoin in 2013 but only used it to buy drugs
>after the bull market started buying but had very little money as I was a student
>lost my BTC in 2017
>got disillusioned
>forgot all about crypto and got into stocks
>started getting back into it in 2022
Shit happens

[Anonymous No.56525091]

>>56524285
Leverage obliterated my ass. I would have been a millionaire just by holding

[Anonymous No.56525130]

>>56524285
most people need at least 3 cycle to make it.

[Anonymous No.56525147]

>>56525130
100k first cycle
500k second cycle
2mm third cycle?
does that sound about right cause that's my goal (I started in 2020)

[Anonymous No.56525163]

sold ETH too early and missed out on literal millions in gains

lost 1/5th of my stack when a bunch of exchanges went out of business last year

sold some of my stack to pay for life necessities

[Anonymous No.56525554]

First cycle from 2018 onwards: from 0 to 5k just with some airdrops, to 150k with some icos and defi summer.

to 1.6m again with some icos, trading, farming and a seed round.

-was rugged 350k on a nft game that hyperinflated to oblivion. was too greedy. should've sold in profit.

- lost 100k buying a low liquidity uniswap v2 clone.

- bought 200k in nfts which I later sold for 50k back this year

essentially got back to around 30-60k at my lowest point this year, which I've grown up to about 110k liquid now, and waiting a seed round to deliver the coming year, and some nfts which may or may not be worth something, depeding if they launch a thing.

[Anonymous No.56525569]

>>56524557
that is literally the price movement of BTC since 2017 retard

[Anonymous No.56525585]

>>56524647
I got the memo and accoomed 30k LINK during the bear, put 10k LINK in an insecure Aave wallet to collateralize a loan, wallet got hacked and drained
never again, I learned my lesson
no more web wallets

[Anonymous No.56525831]

Investing too late, selling too early - or not selling before it crashes.
There is little confidence in buying coins before bull. Then bull happens and you buy, but by then you can barely even make x2, so you wait because line only goes up. Except it doesn't and you're left holding the bag. Or you sell part of the stack for less than 100% profit to prevent total loss, but the rest turns into a bag.

Now it seems like things are heating up, but really, what the fuck do you even buy to get x1000? I've bought some small stacks of stuff I expect to do a x10 maybe, but to actually make it requires more luck than winning a lottery.

[Anonymous No.56525834]

>>56524285
I'm not making the same mistakes I made then again, right now I'm buying the dip, with QANX, and I'm going to buy a Lambo in the coming bull market

[Anonymous No.56526048]

>>56524285
Yep... Basically only just above my break even. Just gambled away my gains. Was up a 100x at one point... Oh well

[Anonymous No.56526210]

>>56525831
Yeah just do x10 two times and you made it, so easy

[Anonymous No.56526362]

>>56524496
>I held zilliqa
>I am financially JUSTd

reminds me of this guy in a /biz/ discord channel back in the day who was saying that zilliqa and xlm were better long shots than chainlink and he billed himself as a "Macro Trader," he'd give a ton of advice and everyone kind of sucked his dick all the time. at one point he even unironically also said that mobius is better than link and to look into it, he wasn't joking at all when he suggested that and he didn't realize that it was a /biz/ meme/psy-op before mentioning it. thats when i knew he was retarded

[Anonymous No.56526735]

>>56524285
2017 I was learning and go rekt
2021 I made x100 but was robbed of making it by Musk and dogcoins, if it wasn't for it I would have reached 7 figures.

[Anonymous No.56526763]

>>56524285
Me. I put some in crypto. Not a lot. Too afraid of rugs. I don't like gambling at casinos, so that could have something to do with it.

[Anonymous No.56528409]

>>56524665
Same boat. Was working a shit job paying for community college in cash at the time. Biggest link bag ever was around the same as you at 800

[Anonymous No.56529196]

>>56524285
this guy needs to cut back on the goyslop

[Anonymous No.56529276]

>>56524285
I was getting used to the cryptoverse in 2021 and boy I didn't know wtf was a bull run, but after making findings in the bear and loosing herein, I decided to research more get big buys on ETH, INJ, LUNAM on Pancakeswap amongst other tokens, the next bull will see me in multiples fr.

[Anonymous No.56529446]

>>56524630
wagmi fren (hopefully)

[Anonymous No.56529510]

>>56524818
Fuck it i think im going to try to get 1k in link and 1 BTC

WILL I MAKE IT ?

[Anonymous No.56529689]

>>56529510
In the time it took to get from 2016 to now, what feels like a blink of an eye, in that time you will be one of the wealthiest people you know, if you simply hold in cold storage.

[Anonymous No.56529957]

>>56524462
That was my first venture in to Crypto too, I had only about $1500 sitting in cryptopia, but at its peak a couple of years later it would have been around $500,000 worth.

Still havent gotten my coins back.

[Anonymous No.56530586]

>>56529957
thats ok. the government successfully protected you from the 500k

[Anonymous No.56530866]

>>56524929
>I started a farm btw
Wholesome.

[Anonymous No.56531132]

>>56529446