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Sunday Scaries Edition
>Brokers
https://pastebin.com/F1yujtVq
https://brokerchooser.com/

>Stock market words:
https://pastebin.com/VtnpN5iJ

>Risk management:
https://pastebin.com/sqJUcbjp

>Financials podcasts/channels
https://www.youtube.com/c/CameronStewartCFA - Fundamendals analysis
https://www.youtube.com/user/BenzingaTV - Various themed livestreams
https://www.youtube.com/user/KitcoNews - Mainly PMs and crypto

>Live Streams:
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Free charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com/
https://www.koyfin.com/

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
https://biopharmcatalyst.com

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Dividend Reinvestment (DRIP) calculator:
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator/

>List of hedge fund holdings:
https://fintel.io/

>Misc:
https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://wallmine.com/
https://tikr.com/

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>> No.56501276

we're going to crab and bleed for the next 5 years faggots

>> No.56501279
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>Bitcoin slightly up
>Arabs pussying out as tanks roll into Gaza
>Weekend Wall Street so flat, pics of it are banned in Australia

Yeah, I'm thinking we're back.

>> No.56501298
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This is a chart of the NASDAQ price history since 2008. Imagine buying the top of this chart.

>> No.56501302
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i expect that this week
will be a bloodbath
but my body's ready
for the market's wrath

>> No.56501306

I'm bullish on the number of angry oil and gas speculators in this general.

>> No.56501319

I don't want to go to work tomorrow.

>> No.56501320
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Hello.

>> No.56501325
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>>56501306
IT'S BULLSHIT I TELL YOU

>> No.56501334

>>56501306
PHYSICAL oil
PHYSICAL uranium
PHYSICAL gold
PHYSICAL vix

How many times do we have to warn people? Accept no substitutes.

>> No.56501340

>>56501298
Zoom out, we are at return to mean stage, retarded bobo. Your impotent seething will change nothing

>> No.56501371

>>56501340
Lol. No.

>> No.56501395
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>>56501334
gf found my box of VIX

>> No.56501396

last two months have been shit.

>> No.56501411

>>56501395
Just tell her to double check, chances are it's decayed away.

>> No.56501415
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>>56501320
good morning
>>56501395
lewd

>> No.56501419
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>>56501340
>>56501371
It does appear like we are re-living '99-'01.

>> No.56501449

>>56501334
I dont think the government allows you to own uranium,and I do not have enough tanker trucks for my oil futures.

>> No.56501460
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Stand back! I'm handpicking stocks and there ain't nothing you can do about it. The point of the market is value discovery! Buying index funds goes against the very idea of the market!

>> No.56501469

>>56501449
>I dont think the government allows you to own uranium
This is a Biden administration. They want as much uranium easily put in the hands of Iran as humanly possible: https://www.sprott.com/investment-strategies/physical-commodity-funds/uranium/

>> No.56501474

>>56501460
But you can price discover ETF bargains.

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>>56501449
>N-no officer, it is for my nephew's birthday I SWEAR!

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Butterfly transaction. BBBYQ holders won, short hedgefunds have lost. They just don't realise it yet

>> No.56501499

>>56501449
Jones would store your oil.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0gb9v4LI4o

>> No.56501510

>>56501396
It will get much worse.

>> No.56501516

>>56501474
As long as they're incredibly niche and leveraged.

>> No.56501520

Looks like stocks will go up, down or sideways from here

>> No.56501524

>>56501449
Sprott schizos literally set up a physical uranium ETF. I assume energy cos can redeem sir

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>>56501306
Well lucky for me I am not an oil and gas speculator.
I am an oil and gas *investor*
See you at 100+

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"You can't time the market" is pure cope. Buying low and selling high is timing the market. DCA on pullbacks and trimming on rallys is timing the market. Rotating to other sectors is timing the market. Increasing/Decreasing contributions is timing the market. If you do anything besides buy the same amount of the entire market at the exact equal sector weight every week no matter what you are timing the market

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>>56501516
I just buy NATGAS when it's low and sell it when it's high while eating rice and beans.

>> No.56501566

Reminder to invest in profitable companies with low debt and competitive advantages.

>> No.56501571

>>56501542
$859 to my 401 every other week, $600 to my Roth, and 1,000 into a 1 year CD once a month. (The CD thing is temporary, once I get a full years worth, it'll go into VTI & BND unless JPow starts to lower before I get a year in)

>> No.56501581

>>56501566
Like?

>> No.56501582

>>56501525
Lately, oil and gas *investing* has meant devoting most corporate resources and attention to the task of taking two huge companies and smushing them together.

>> No.56501584

>>56501566
Hmm sorry I prefer closed end funds with eroding NAVs that trade at a premium. But to each his own.

>> No.56501586

Buddy check tickers NIG and GER computer.

>> No.56501587

Sigh back during WWII the U.S,allies were dropping bombs and other shat with zero fucks given on how it looked to the peace loving "oh you can't do that" crowd. Now? Hell the U.S could go over there, bomb iran, bomb hamas,etc but they won't cause it "looks bad". WTF.. Sometimes you gotta put action to words you know.

>> No.56501616

>>56501460
IMO now is probably one of the best times to be picking stocks in the past 30 years. There's insane concentration risk in the indexes, a bunch of stuff is mispriced because of the rapid interest rate changes and other macroeconomic stuff and then there are the games Vanguard was playing.
I'm DCAing into what I believe to be cheap stocks (half of which are foreign) with a target for accelerating after the end of this year.

>> No.56501628

>>56501587
Something was very unusual about the US government mid 20th century. They got away with all kinds of shit that just wouldn't fly today.

>> No.56501629

>>56501616
Yeah it’s one of the best times to be picking stocks to short.

>> No.56501640

>>56501616
US small caps and US value also look remarkably cheap relative to the total market. Seems like a good situation for value hunters.

>> No.56501646

>>56501629
I am shorting quite a bit too heh, probably more than I should.

>> No.56501651

>>56501581
Pro Medicus.

>> No.56501678

>>56501492
With who?

>> No.56501683
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>>56501542
It's true. You're also timing the market by living through this era of stock-market history rather than some other era.

>> No.56501712

>>56501683
Choosing to invest or not to begin with is arguably timing the market.
>>56501542
I've come around to some of the more simpler aspects of Technical Analysis. Some of the modern models view the market more as an auto correlating fractal rather than a simple random walk implying that "trends" etc do actually exist and aren't just superstition.
I'm still going to make fun of people who draw zillions of lines on their charts though.

>> No.56501741

>>56501712
>I'm still going to make fun of people who draw zillions of lines on their charts though.
You have to also consider that people believe in those silly lines, which makes them real.

>> No.56501754

>>56501587
KO Boomer has joined the thread.

>> No.56501758

>>56501754
We could solve so many problems if we sent the boomers to fight for Israel.

>> No.56501776

Mortgage rates are gonna hit 10% by spring 2024 aren't they? Housing markets are so fucked right now...

>> No.56501790

>>56501628
It’s called global communication. Their total control over narratives is breaking down. The harder they clamp down the more dissidents they create, shortening their time in power.

>> No.56501811

>>56501776
People paying less than 6% are trapped. They can't move to a better job unless it's paying 50% more. The numbers just don't work to take a 5 or 6k raise and pay an extra 8k/year in mortgage interest.

>> No.56501812

>>56501790
idk. International telegraphy (both wireless and wired) had existed for quite a while at that point. I don't think technology is playing as big a role as it's given credit for.

>> No.56501814

>>56501776
Maybe, but a lot of current homeowners will want to keep their relatively low-rate mortgages so they won't sell. That reduces supply.

>> No.56501822

>>56501776

>1776 predicting 10% mortgage rates
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>> No.56501825

>>56501776
Checked!

>> No.56501846

>>56501306
i'm an energy investor, long term. speculators will come and go. they simply don't understand the supercycle, and they're probably already pretty upset they missed the front door when it was wide open. now they're trying to climb in the window, god bless 'em, couldn't be me

>> No.56501849

I don’t see anything keeping the 10 year from climbing above 5%. FOMC will be super hawkish. is a 100 bps hike possible?

>> No.56501859

>>56501849
I very much doubt we'll get a hike. If we get another one it will be after the recovery in November/December so it will depend on how big that gets.

>> No.56501862

>>56501524
sprott is warehoused on cameco property, in canada. a US firm would have to talk to someone licensed here in the US. centrus, urenco, general dynamics, BWXT, GLE, GE/hitachi (maybe), any of the miners, and so on

>> No.56501870

>>56501542
>Buying low and selling high is timing the market.
wrong.

>> No.56501893

>>56501566
nominal debt, in isolation, isn't an indicator of anything at all. in fact, what you just said is probably more wrong than right: in the event a great number of companies suddenly have to go to into debt now, they are in trouble given the prevailing rates. they'll just as soon dilute you if they can rather than get into that debt.
companies don't all just magically levitate. you have to look at how much capital they need injected, and when, over a very long period of time, before you know what you're looking at.
buying OXY when oil went negative, AFTER they already went into massive low-rate debt, was a 7x play in just a matter of months.

>> No.56501919

>>56501846
Energy is shit easy to invest in. Buy when Dems are elected, sell when Republicans are in charge.

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>>56501616
concur, strongly. EMs are cheap as fuck. there's still a good reason for it, though, for now.
https://pages.stern.nyu.edu/~adamodar/New_Home_Page/datafile/ctryprem.html

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>>56501553
Living the dream.

>> No.56501942
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>>56501460
>The point of the market is value discovery!
The point of the market is to make bubbles and busts and rob the goys of their money.

>> No.56501949

is kraft heinz a good buy?

>> No.56501958

>>56501949
Currently eating yesterdays spaghetti with Heinz sauce, bretty good desu. It's a good buy at the right price and it's kind of expensive right now.

>> No.56501967

>>56501949
depends. what's your outlook?
>kraft has five years of growth ahead of it
great! it'll might double from here. all it has to do is grow like a tech company.
>america crabs for another lost decade
no.
> mass inflationary event, but then lost decade
ok, it's approaching value territory.

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>>56501958
Based personal-familiarity investor.

>> No.56501985

>>56501971
Too bad these days the companies that make the worst products (due to cutting costs) end up outperforming the companies that make quality products. I miss the days of buying something once and having it last for years.

>> No.56502023

>>56501985
a pair of crocs lasts me 1-2 years, but i also don't give a shit really since i like them and they cost like $30 which is nothing. try buying an enameled dutch oven or something. i've had the same car for 22 years.

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>>56501985
>Too bad these days the companies that make the worst products (due to cutting costs)
Yeah I used to buy cheaper spaghetti sauces but the quality just went to shit, They tried to cut costs and keep the price the same even though inflation is a thing and the product is literally trash. Heinz on the other hand hasn't sacrificed quality although you pay quite a premium imo It's worth it. Idk about the KHC stock though seems a bit expensive atm.

>> No.56502046

>>56501985
RIP Instantpot

>> No.56502060

>>56501958
>>56501967
fuck idk it was large cap and had a good PE ratio and it the chart looks low. wtf is the point of trying to learn all this when I bet there are computer programs that just tell you what to buy factoring in all the important shit

>> No.56502068

>>56501419
Oh yeah I'm sure the most important financial minds in the world are going to let retail faggots look at that chart and call the next crash with 100% certainty. Lmfao you guys crack me up.

>> No.56502098

>>56502060
I mean looking at it it's fallen quite a bit could be a buy but I remember they had a lot of debt on their balance sheet .

>> No.56502099
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Probably gonna scalp puts all week. Calls been burning me. Red november.

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200 years ago some white dudes sat down on wall street and decided to exchange papers instead of goods or money. And now here we are.

>> No.56502120

>>56501582
And this is bad for us because?

>> No.56502122

>>56502115
The stock market was founded by the Dutch you tard

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>>56502115
>200 years ago some white dudes sat down on wall street and decided to exchange papers instead of goods or money. And now here we are.
Anon... I.

>> No.56502136

>>56502060
>P/E
>charts
>nothing else
new, huh?
if a computer program told you what to buy, don't you think every investor would have it? there are investment banks and hedge funds with literally hundred-million-dollar annual opex. you think they don't already remove all of the premium from the market, every 15-30 seconds, that a program could possibly find?

>> No.56502139

>>56502122
But perfected by Americans, like everything.

>> No.56502149

>>56502122
the dutch settled manhattan, anon. it was called new amsterdam before it was new york.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam

>> No.56502152

>>56502136
That's exactly what's been happening for three months, they've been relentlessly selling puts to retail dumbshits

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>>56501949
>>56501967
>>56502060
here.
find a value investing website.

>> No.56502193

>>56502027
Heinz has a pretty strong history. They were producing quality food before the FDA existed.
>>56502139
The real US contribution was the modern derivatives market.

>> No.56502194

>>56502152
i mean depending on what the chain looks like, selling KHC puts might not be a bad idea.
whenever i find a company that i am pretty sure is in deep value, has competent management, all the good stuff, i check the put options out beyond six months.
if i think the company 50/50 can suffer short-term difficulty that the market will punish them for, and the option premium looks juicy enough, i won't just buy shares i'll sell the puts instead. get paid to open the position i wanted anyway.

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>>56502193
>They were producing quality food before the FDA existed.
Almost as if we don't need the FDA...

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>>56502115
ah, to be a ticker worm in the 1920's trading at bucket shops on a shoestring margin.

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so why doesn't doing something like pic and buying all the companies not work? Just filter by all the good statistics and buy. Where does human thought actually come in?

>> No.56502283

>>56502242
the FDA would be good if it stopped companies from putting suoy and HFCS and toxic waste into the food, but they don't

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>>56502264
I mean it could work I see JD there.

>> No.56502312

>>56502298
>Jing
>Dong

>> No.56502325

>>56501255
next week i am selling my stock portfolio and putting it all in btc (1.4mil)

>> No.56502327

>>56502283
Maybe something that worked like UL would have been better idk. We obviously need something like that.

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>>56502312
JingDong ChingChong don't care as long as it makes me money.

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56502380

The stock market is going to fucking 0 isn't it bros? It's literally and unironically over.

>> No.56502390

alright im going to buy imperial oil. Canadian based. They've been growing for years. They should be able to find loads more oil in canada to support more growth.

>> No.56502395

how much money do i need to quit my job and just shitpost onSMG all week?

>> No.56502422

>>56502395
Depends on how much alpha you've got

>> No.56502423
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anyone have any opinions on these stocks? they are flashing bullish in my stock screener:

CAH buy 10/29/23 - maybe. this is a medical disti
PDD buy 10/29/23 - china e-commerce
FRO, INSW, TNK, NAT, OSG - oil tankers
FTI - oil services
X - steel
NEWR - cloud real-time data analytics
FCFS - pawn shops
LRN - tech-based education
ATGE - post secondary education

>> No.56502433

>>56502423
>PDD
>FRO, TNK
Ye

>> No.56502440

>>56502325
i would look into the wykoff distribution pattern if i were you

>> No.56502442

>>56502390
https://www.worldometers.info/oil/oil-reserves-by-country/
By all accounts Canadian energy companies should be a good long term investment. Huge reserves, massive consumer nearby. The only negative I see is trannies.

>> No.56502445

>>56502423
Only know PDD and it's not a buy.

>> No.56502457

>>56502380
Yep. Always do the opposite of what they tell you.
They raised interest rates 6000%, and it's still not even priced into the market yet. The few banks that have failed this year will pale in comparison to the amount of corporate realestate on the books that has to have new loans negotiated. A lot of them are just cutting employees, because it's cheaper and makes the balance sheets look ok.

>> No.56502486

>>56502445
>Only know PDD and it's not a buy.
why not?

>> No.56502494

>>56501985
There is still lots of furniture around from my younger years and before, but none of the shit sold these days will ever wind up in antique stores.

>> No.56502518

>>56501985
>>56502494
Not to mention, I doubt there is much of any reupholstering business still remaining today, whereas it was a very common part of life in my childhood years. The frames of the furnitures were essentially "forever" built.

>> No.56502519

>>56502395
10x your yearly budget works if you can beat the market or everything goes just right with ETFs. 20x is more reasonable.

>> No.56502521

>>56502486
It's not as cheap as other e-commerce players and the moat isn't that strong since they don't have their logistics network JD and BABA can tap in and offer same quality products at cheaper priced due to their logistics networks. PDD uses JD Logistics.

>> No.56502543

>>56501415
how much money do i need to retire in japan?

>> No.56502568

>>56502543
Do you want the answer in Yen or US Dollars?

>> No.56502571

>>56502568
dollars

>> No.56502576

>>56502571
Oh, then I don't know, sorry

>> No.56502580

>>56502521
PDD specializes in agriculture though. can JD and BABA offer the same expertise?

>> No.56502581

>>56502395
The standard answer is 40x your yearly budget (that is: withdraw 4% per year.) At current interest rates you might be able to get away with 30x though and if you're going to die soon you might be able to do even less.

>> No.56502607

>>56502423
X you should be careful with because there's the whole "elon might buy it for the ticker symbol" issue that pumped the price hard. Steel is usually a macro or cyclical play. Buying it near a high is usually a bad idea unless you have a good reason to believe there's going to be strong demand in the next 1-2 years.

FRO is a meme pump, the company itself is awful but you could swing trade it on momentum maybe.

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Made a girl leave the bar last night by hitting on her. Financially speaking, am I going to make it?

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>>56502581
How do you know if you're going to die soon?

>> No.56502627

>>56502615
If you're really old you'll probably die soon. That's the primary predictive tool retires seem to use.
I guess if you do a ton of drugs and/or have some terminal illness you'll probably die soon too.
idk I thought this was common knowledge.

>> No.56502632 [DELETED] 

>>56502380
knew headline in picrel was full of shit from the start
link, article is most likely paywalled:
>https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/29/business/economy/halloween-retail-economy.html
>>56502457
the three banks that failed this year already put us halfway to 2008 in terms of how much the banks were worth.

>> No.56502633

>>56502580
I mean JD has done it with carp fast and fresh delivery, they also import exotic fruits from outside of China due to their strong logistics network. I mean they can for sure tap into that market, but will they idk?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nO796OWg6bs

>> No.56502637

>>56502543
>>56502568
>>56502571
>>56502576
kek

>> No.56502638
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>>56502380
>AI

They really are shilling for that shit a lot lately. Yeah we get it, it can be used for computer jobs, robots, cars, blahblahyaddayadda.

But right now it still doesn't look very convincing and so many people invested too much shit into it. We might be looking at another Dot Com Bubble situation and this time only 7 stocks are carrying the entire market currently...

>> No.56502654
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>>56502380
knew headline in picrel was full of shit from the start
link, article is most likely paywalled:
>https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/29/business/economy/halloween-retail-economy.html
>>56502457
the three banks that failed this year already put us halfway to 2008 in terms of how much the banks were worth.

>> No.56502689
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>>56502654
>picrel
kek I knew shit was up. I work at Home Depot and in the first 2 weeks we put up the Halloween decorations near the registers(in late September 2023), a lot of them were already sold out. Especially the Disney shit like the 14ft tall Jack Skellington animatronics and those go for $400 EACH.

Consumers are retarded, why pay that much when they keep whining at me and other associates on how they have to put everything on credit cards and take loans out??

>> No.56502712
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56502712

>>56502638
I mean, people like to throw >>56501298 around for any old thing they don't like. But AI is literally the kind of thing that chart is about.

>> No.56502715
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56502715

Is this bearish or bullish on the overall market that barron's came out with this?

>> No.56502735

>>56502689
My first internship paid me $14/hr.
Wow.

>> No.56502741
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56502741

>>56502689
People are spending because they are optimistic

>> No.56502763

>>56502741
It would be really interesting to see the spread between people who graduated high school shortly after 2008 and everyone else.
I hardly spent anything the past few years because I have absolutely no trust in the labor market after that.

>> No.56502768

>>56502741
I'm curious on what they are 'optimistic' over kek

>> No.56502769

>>56502763
I don't even know what to spend it on

>> No.56502793

>>56502735
reminder that per the feds goal of 2% inflation per year prices will double every 35 years. :^)

>> No.56502799

>>56502769
Heh yeah. You can buy lots of funko pops and goyslop but things worth buying like houses are too expensive while everything else you need like food and computer hardware costs almost nothing if you shop a bit.

>> No.56502809

>>56502715
I'm still buying T-bills (4wk). I'm not going to let that article FUD me. My first reaction was to inverse it, because it means "the top is in for treasuries" and "anyone who reads Barron's is exit liquidity". Then I realized something - the tulips. The tulips! Those are far too obvious. Someone out there wants to call the top of treasuries by publishing an article thereby making the prophecy self fulfilling by everyone who takes "front page signal" as a sell signal. Don't forget Ackman closed his treasury short. Could have something to do with this. But it doesn't matter. Even if treasuries fall to 3% I will continue to buy, and use instead of cash, because I'm not giving a bank a single dime after the quiet bailout redpill. I will keep doing this until 1 of 2 things becomes affordable: SPY or a house. Those are my brainlet thoughts anyway.

>> No.56502814

>>56502769
I too am confused. A friend of mine talks at length about how he's living out of his credit cards, but then he still goes on 4 vacations a year. I think people just have a lifestyle they are used to and refuse to budge from it even when they cannot afford it.

>> No.56502818
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56502818

>>56502689
>>56502654
>Spending? If they have money to spend, they have money to loose.

>> No.56502819

>>56502763
I graduated college in '09, and I'm the same way.
>>56502768
Like the pic says, they're optimistic about their ability to continue getting a paycheck. Maybe "confident" is a better word, I don't know. But the reason most middle class people still live paycheck-to-paycheck is that they aren't worried about the next one coming in. They could cut back on spending and build savings if they wanted, and they do when they think the job market is getting a bit shaky... but most of the time they don't see the need.
Then there's the natural pessimists like us who post on /smg/ who think living like that is basically retarded, and so we sock away 2/3 of our paychecks to DCA into weekly options or whatever

>> No.56502840
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>>56502799
>Computer hardware

I'm so glad that I saved a lot and bought a new PC like https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZvqLPF

I have a very BAD feeling that PC parts in general are going to skyrocket in price next year 2024, especially if yields/bonds/treasuries keep fucking up like right now...

>> No.56502854
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56502854

>>56502840
>Luckily, it made a full recovery to join its colleagues for a dance.
THIS IS JUST LIKE MY WALMART WEBMS!!!!1

>> No.56502858

>>56502615
you can buy an analysis of your internal age. Like of organs and shit.
Sounds like voodoo popscience, but the claim is that there is like 2 dozen bio markers that actually have a relevant say about the state of your cells and shit

>> No.56502864

>>56502854
*boom boom clap*
we are
we are
ZOGbot
*clap*
*boom boom clap*

>> No.56502879
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56502879

>>56502612
if making it doesn't mean having a loli harem i don't want to make it

>> No.56502882

>>56502840
based 4090 chad
will go hard on generating anime girls this winter to keep me warm

>> No.56502883

>>56502840
I highly doubt the price for PC parts will go up seriously. Things would have to be bad enough that fire arms are a better investment for that to happen.
There's a crazy long pipeline between theory and execution with hardware like that and would take a very long disruption for things to even stop improving and much more to go backwards.
Plus computers are practically free these days if you know what you're doing. I have stacks of these $1 mcu boards on my desk that are more powerful than my first desktop and can run Linux.

>> No.56502889
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>>56502854
kek 'full recovery' must have taken fuckin hours to do. I bet if too many robot wagies keep collapsing and breaking when they get overworked like the human ones do, Amazon will quietly get rid of them and bring back the wagie cagies to not piss of investors too much.

>> No.56502902

>>56502763
yeah that's me also. i guess we're the financial equivalent of the old folks who lived through the depression who never kept money in the bank after that. You don't forget financial devastation like that when it happens to you right as you're starting to actually have finances

>> No.56502921

>>56502854
i cant wait for robots to take over warehouse work. its terrible for your body and once it dries up, all the green card people will have to go home.

>> No.56502932
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56502932

stock market crash OVER. S&P 500 bottomed Friday or will Monday. Fed pause this week.

>> No.56502936

>>56502883
Main reasons they will go up will be due to AI and even more stupid crypto scamcoin bullshit.

Just like how around 2009-2012 HDDs were ridiculously hard to find and very expensive when companies were putting up new data centers. Expect similar shit to happen when companies start to spurge a lot more on AI gimmicks and graphics cards will be a serious rarity more precious than gold.

>> No.56502941
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56502941

MCD is a REIT

>> No.56502954

>>56502936
>Just like how around 2009-2012 HDDs were ridiculously hard to find
That was due to factories in Taiwan being destroyed in a tsunami. It was a supply side problem. Maybe the same thing could happen again for GPUs but those are overpriced superfluous crap anyway. Everything else is distributed around the world a lot better.

>> No.56502984

>>56502921
>Go home

huge doubt, they are all here to stay in the USA unfortunately. they will only move on to other jobs like lawn service, construction jobs and cleaning gigs. I will be pumping stocks in those labor markets accordingly when the exodus beings.

>> No.56503034

One of the only reasons for attending college is that many careers require a degree to get hired. The only skills of value that I learned in college were communication skills. I am a computer science major. I learned how to write organized, thoughtful papers and I wouldn't have learned that if I had not attended college. Clear writing is critical for explaining ideas, analysis, and proposals in every field. In every field, documenting the results of your work is as critical as the work itself. It doesn't matter what you do if you can't explain it to others. I have been in so many worthless meetings because the organizer did not know how to effectively set up and run a meeting. They could not communicate their ideas.

In my field, everything I learned about computer science was outdated the day after I graduated. I have to be able to read and learn on my own to keep my skills up to date. College is the best place to learn reading and writing. Everything else in your field, no matter what field you are in, you learn on the job. It used to be, at least, that a college degree was proof to future employers that you could learn the subject matter. Now that is not even true. Colleges are now simply money-making ventures. The goals at colleges now are to keep the kids there, make them happy with inflated grades, have a good athletics department and provide opportunities for meeting the opposite sex. An associate degree at the local community college can be as valuable as a master's in computer science, if you work hard and learn all you can. It's just that one can't get hired without the master's degree.

>> No.56503046

>>56503034
All the good classes where math and philosophy. There was like one serious CS class and the rest of it was either "intro to C++ programming" or 4 months of writing papers about how Israel is super great at fucking around with malware.

>> No.56503050

>>56502689
>>56502689
a lot of those people are going to start whining that they're broke soon when the market takes a fat shit.

>> No.56503083
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56503083

>futures

>> No.56503112

>>56502984
>they will only move on to other jobs like lawn service, construction jobs and cleaning gigs.
They already do all that work.

>> No.56503127

>>56502763
>graduated high school
graduating college might be a better comparison because high school graduates arent really going into a career job usually. they were probably getting retail jobs

>> No.56503131

>>56503046
my english, math, and philosophy professors were based.

>> No.56503139

>>56503112
true but you will see an even bigger spike on 'start up' companies popping around when they get desperate to earn a living

>> No.56503145

>>56502840
these robots will never work
the human body is literally perfect in terms of efficiency and costs

>> No.56503165

>>56503139
I'm already starting my own startup.
My target market is other laid off tech workers starting their startups. I've got a couple different product prototypes ready to go.

>> No.56503167

DON'T
WAIT
FOR
THE
BULL
MARKET
THREE PEE PEE POO POOS TO BUY NOW
THAT WILL
MAYBE
POSSIBLY
POTENTIALLY
MIGHT JUST TONGUE YOUR ANUS INFINITELY HOPEFULLY IF YOU'RE THE CHOSEN ONE

>> No.56503173

>>56503165
What are you selling? I too am creating a startup since being laid off

>> No.56503185
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56503185

Has Gayden lost it completely?

>> No.56503189
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>>56503050
>a lot of those people are going to start whining that they're broke soon when the market takes a fat shit.

Brainlets are again talking like they are going to buy the greatest dip of all time and finally be rich.

You know what that means mumubros.
The bottom is in.
These faggots are gonna miss the dip like they always do.

>> No.56503191

>>56503185
Who is this guy? PPT still a thing?

>> No.56503201

>>56503185
Unless WW3 kicks off for real, I highly doubt we will get trade halts, circuit breaks or whatever in the markets. It will be more like a slow boiling frog kind of shitshow.

>> No.56503211

>>56501255
IG weekend markets slightly up. WE GONNA PUMP ON OPEN

>> No.56503212

>>56503189
If I had 300k in a 60/40 portfolio I could live comfortably as a neet for the rest of my life. Sadly I only have 125k and it has only been declining and so I have to be come a wagie just to stop the bleeding.

>> No.56503216

ITS ALREADY GOING TO FUCKING START SNOWING THIS WEEK IN WISCONSIN I WANT TO FUCKING DIE I WANT TO FUCKING DIE

>> No.56503229

>>56503216
Praise the LORD GOD Almighty, the price of NATGAS might get BLESSED.

>> No.56503231

>>56503212
60/40 portfolio is for rich old people bro

>> No.56503237

>>56503191
>Who is this guy?
He is managing some ETFs that are underwater, but for some reason 750k people are following him on twitter. I don't know why the biggest accounts on twitter are always the worst.
>PPT still a thing?
yeah

>> No.56503250

OOOOOOOOOOOOOH

>> No.56503259
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>>56503216
>>56503229
We're gonna eat like kings natgas brothers.

>> No.56503265

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.56503271

>>56503259
Already dropped 6 cents in the futures that just opened, but that just means buying a little more.

>> No.56503278

>>56503216

>market opens
>speculators pile into natgas
>price pumps
>baggies sell
>price dumps
>just before lunch short interest starts rising
>price dumps even more
>about 3pm bulls squeeze out the short sellers
>nasdaq closes +0.7%
>SP500 closes +0.3%, Russel 2000 -2.8%.

All because of some light rain in Wisconsin.

>> No.56503279

BUT THERE'S NO NEWS! WHY IS IT MOVING!?!?

>> No.56503287

>>56503185
isn't the whole point of crashes is that they're unpredictable?

>> No.56503289

>>56503278
*light snow

>> No.56503301

all bullishness with be frontloaded this week. only good news is no news and monday has the least

>> No.56503302
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>>56503191
He bought the top of bonds and has been anally bleeding all over social media since then
Coincidentally he also wrote some papers that convinced many anons to buy 3x leveraged ETFs and hold them through some of the worst market conditions ever

>> No.56503317
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56503317

>>56503279
>STOCK FUTURES RISE ON NEWS OF STOCK FUTURES RISING

>> No.56503318
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56503318

He bought?

>> No.56503330
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56503330

>>56503287
>his coming was foretold in ancient forums

>> No.56503335
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56503335

futures mean nothing

>> No.56503338

>>56503287
to you

>> No.56503339

>>56503335
f

>> No.56503341

NATGAS and OIL are both doin' a little droopin' and that is all that I hold so I will be doin' a little droopin' the moment that HOOD's 24 hour market opens at 8pm.

>> No.56503345
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56503345

>>56503185
>>56503287
did you predict this?
https://twitter.com/WinfieldSmart/status/1717955748783657256/photo/1

>> No.56503349

>>56503335
I'm going to sell it all at 9:30am in his memory

>> No.56503353
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56503353

>>56502941
KO is a REIT. the magazine is behind the trigger

>> No.56503354

Dompeet.

>> No.56503355

>>56503335
>t. a no HOOD nigger who can't trade 24 hrs 5 days a week starting at 8pm Sunday and ending at 8pm Friday

>> No.56503359

>>56503345
that and the 10/2 should be huge warning signs for these bullfags

>> No.56503364

>>56503212
Do you live in a 3rd world country? That's definitely not enough in the west if you account for living expenses, insurance, and emergencies.

>> No.56503365

>>56503302
>Coincidentally he also wrote some papers that convinced many anons to buy 3x leveraged ETFs and hold them through some of the worst market conditions ever
You mean he convinced them to sell and save themselves from taking 90% drawdowns. If you are following his paper you are in cash right now

>> No.56503375

>>56503345
no but I was buying puts at 435 but I sold way too early, I usually make a good thesis and then sell early even when things are going my way

>> No.56503382

>>56503167
thanks, went long x20 based on that analysis

>> No.56503385

>>56503302
Why the fuck did he buy the top of the bonds when he's a doomer? Is he simply retarded and knows nothing so he "hedged" in the most stupid way? I really don't expect from these people to know anything. I mean, just look at Capo del Crypto or Jim Cramer.

>> No.56503409
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56503409

this rally will fail like the others

>> No.56503414

>>56503385
Bonds are currently in their worst bear market of all time. He probably didn't anticipate that. Historically bonds do much better while stocks are crashing. I understand the interest rate hikes, at least in hind sight, give ample reason to not want to go into long term bonds but that's what he did probably under the theory that you don't switch strategies in the middle of the race due to an event that happens once in 200 years

>> No.56503416

I've decided to buy a bicycle for daily use to work, general fitness, and to spite OIL shitposters.

>> No.56503446

>>56503127
>they were probably getting retail jobs

I graduated highschool in 2011. I lost my part time job in '08 thanks to the crash and never found another one until like 2014 because desperate adults were working all the shit jobs for teens. My mom was such a fucking retard that she would pester me every day to keep applying even though it was completely hopeless to find anything.

And I do save all my money like anon said.

>> No.56503458

>>56503414
>an event that happens once in 200 years
COVID?
We were rounding the top right before it started. A lot of shit wasn't looking good in general, then they just flooded the market with cash. Remember, they were on year 11 of almost negative interest rates across the EU and record lows in the USA. We're looking at 2016 levels for a floor is my guess.

>> No.56503467

>>56503458
No, the huge bond bear market that has been steeper since like the 1700s

>> No.56503479

>>56503467
What happened where with bonds? I'd like to read up on it. I know there were all kinds of deals being made between countries back then as they were all carving out pieces of the world.

>> No.56503487

>>56503385
pretty much, he hedges by deleveraging, selling everything and buying long term bonds under the 200 day SMA

>> No.56503510

>>56503365
if you follow his paper, you would be in TLT or equivalent right now

>> No.56503521
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>futes
Oh wow, another dead cat bounce. Shocker.

>> No.56503551
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56503551

>its another episode of bobos betting on the end of the world and then being wrong

>> No.56503561
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you guys ever think about getting out of the markets and investing fully in physical assets instead

>> No.56503562
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56503562

Why is AMZN like this? How much longer will white men be erased? When will daiper-wearing boomers REVOLT

>> No.56503565

Didn't realise futures are already open. Feels good to be a Moomoo.

>> No.56503567

is buying various biotech stocks the closest thing you can get to straight up gambling or doing crypto shitcoins? Just buy some cheap bio stocks and hope the company makes that next big drug or cures something

>> No.56503572
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56503572

>>56503561
Already did that.

>> No.56503579

>>56503561
No, I like international trade.

>> No.56503582

>>56503561
It comes to mind every now and then, but it's stupid you'll never make it that way imo except real estate..

>> No.56503583

>>56503567
No buying short dated calls is the closest you can get to gambling. Long biotech stocks is tame and even boring in comparison.

>> No.56503587

is FORD a buy after fridays mega heeming?

>> No.56503603

>>56503561
You never go fully in, but yeah Ive thought about investment property. Maybe in the next couple years but now is not the time.

>> No.56503610

>>56502607
>FRO is a meme pump
maybe but the whole sector is pumping so its not a meme. regarding it being an awful company - they all are. the whole industry is shit. these are all definitely swing trades

>> No.56503625

>>56503587
Well it's very cheap.
They have a lot of debt though (not necessarily too much but certainly a lot), their product is terrible, and it doesn't sound like either of those will change any time soon.

>> No.56503637

>>56503561
i invest fully in your moms pussy instead

>> No.56503638

>>56503561
Already did, almost a million in assets at next to no interest. Now I'm offloading and building a cash position, reducing debt, and looking at shit like options. I don't expect a lot of the luxury companies to do well at all, including casinos, etc.

>> No.56503646

>>56503572
Aren't boats a notoriously bad investment? Typically they don't retain value for shit.

>> No.56503667

>>56503646
Yes. It's like owning a car in the north where they salt the roads. Probably better to just lease the fucking thing so you don't have to deal with the extra depreciation.

>> No.56503689

>>56503572
>boat + starlink + laptop + IB account
trade your way to freedom lol

>> No.56503700

>>56503646
I still think it's better than a house.

>> No.56503711

>>56503689
Most places where starlink works a cheap cell plan will also work. That's how I get internet when I'm on there.
It's why I'm not super stressed about getting a job. I can kind of coast for a few decades if I really want to.

>> No.56503791

>>56503583
He's right though. Crypto shitcoins barely move. When they do, it's often downward.

>> No.56503822

>>56501449
U is legal, need a license for the enriched stuff tho

>> No.56503848
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56503848

It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EefPcht54c

>> No.56503868

>>56503848
yeah

>> No.56503884

>>56503646
Yeah boats are a serious pain in the ass. Only worth it if you take it out often or if you have enough money you don't care.

>> No.56503889

>>56503868
good

>> No.56503892

>>56503355
There’s plenty of brokers that offer 24/5 trading but futures are a leveraged market and the only way you’re going to make money during the tiny ass swings that happen in them is with leverage. If you trade QQQ/SPY with no leverage and focus on the futures market wtf are you even doing my guy.

>> No.56503907

>>56503510
No, tbills, or SGOV/BIL

>> No.56503920

Futures are already bleeding off the gap up at the open lol, we’re going to open red.

>> No.56503938
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>>56503561
Nah

>> No.56503948
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56503948

>>56503920
XMR is up 7%, we pump this week

>> No.56503951

>>56503892
There are simply times in those hours that you get your best buy/sell prices on things that you trade regularly, there's zero need to try to round trip "make money" just during those windows in and of themselves. I might add to a position on sudden gap downs in the futures prices which affect the ETFs I trade, or I might offload some during sudden or even gradual spikes up that may not hold into the market hours the next day. Both of these happen quite often enough.

>> No.56503956

>>56503385
>just look at Cramer
Cramer is not actually as retarded as his show would make you think. He did very well as a fund manager. His show exists to help fund managers who are still in the game dump on retail or squeeze an extra percent or two out of their biggest winners so that they can hit quarterly targets. He knows exactly what he’s doing.

He’s completely shameless about reversing his positions and acting like the old one never existed either. All summer every day he was “muh mignificent seven” “muh buy nvidia at any price” then this week he was laughing at people buying tech on Monday for thinking they could get bailed out by a Bill Ackman tweet every day.

>> No.56503960
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>>56503034
>One of the only reasons for attending college is that many careers require a degree to get hired.
Correct, because simply testing for trainable employees was outlawed. Can you guess why?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Griggs_v._Duke_Power_Co..

>> No.56503964

>>56503951
Those .25%, .50% moves are not going to add up meaningfully over time if you aren’t using leverage.

>> No.56503972

>>56503948
XMR isn’t relevant as an indicator for absolutely anything lol.

>> No.56503980

>>56503964
There's very often much greater moves than that. I have seen lots and lots of ~5% moves and some much more. Right this very moment NATGAS has moved minus 2.2% in fact. What kind of niggers are you people?

>> No.56503987

>>56503960
That figures

>> No.56503990

>>56503938
Jesus has returned.

>> No.56504005

>>56503972
XMR is the most legitimate market on earth, large moves carry high signal

>> No.56504014
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>>56503960
>The judgment famously held that "Congress has now provided that tests or criteria for employment or promotion may not provide equality of opportunity merely in the sense of the fabled offer of milk to the stork and the fox."
>mfw

>> No.56504015

>>56503980
>nat gas
>the most volatile market there is
You don’t need a robinhood account to trade gas futures, you were talking about 24/5 equities trading as well. My overall point I was getting to was that the moves for equities markets during those hours are too small to make 24/5 trading worth bothering with. You’ll capture more alpha doing your research in those hours and not trying to trade them.

>> No.56504029

>>56504005
> XMR is the most legitimate market on earth
This is not even a crypto thread and you’re basically reverse FUDing at this point with such an extreme level of shilling.

>> No.56504031

>>56503987
>>56504014
One fun, related explanation for our shitheap of a world is that the State Department tore out exams step by step because diversities weren't passing them at a high enough rate:
https://twitter.com/jollier_raptor/status/1716105634632863808
https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1548712692512215040

So if you're wondering why oil is about to spike this quarter, there you go.

>This post sponsored by UCO. Buy UCO today.

>> No.56504039

>>56504031
God imagine if you could just get a high paying job by passing an exam proving you know the job.

>> No.56504045

>>56504039
I did that once in my early 20s, some companies just don’t give a fuck about that law.

>> No.56504051

>>56503907
his RORO etf has TLH and ZROZ right now, maybe he's using a combination of one of his other strategies too though

>> No.56504052

>>56504039
Honeywell made me take an IQ test when they hired me which I know for a fact is illegal.
I'm good at them though so I didn't care.

>> No.56504058

>>56504015
I have no interest in trading futures directly, I can just trade futures based ETFs along with whatever all else I want to trade right in my one account. I trade both NATGAS and OIL right there in the HOOD 24 hr markets, again, either just picking up some more shares, or dropping some, whenever I happen to catch a good movement for it either way. UNG just dropped 2.64% the moment it opened, not an insubstantial amount. I might pick some more up, or I might hold off expecting a deeper drop. Sure is nice to have that option available in such a simple to operate platform.

>> No.56504059

>>56503330
Witnessed

>> No.56504070

KOLD went up 4.84% in the opening of the 24 hr market. Niggers.

>> No.56504072

>>56504058
Ok every big broker offers 24/5 tho there’s no reason to use a dogshit cellphone app for it.

>> No.56504073

>>56504029
You're an imbecile. I only hold a suicide stack of XMR, but it's a very pure market with little speculation which makes large moves very meaningful

>> No.56504084

>>56504073
Doesn't that just mean someone's stocking up on drugs?

>> No.56504089

>>56504073
It’s barely a $3 billion market it’s meaningless, aapl earnings will move the market more this week alone.

>> No.56504090
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56504090

Here's you some substantial equities movements in the HOOD 24 hr market, niggers.

>> No.56504093

>>56504072
Oh really, I haven't been able to find it in my Schwab nor Fidelity accounts. Nigger.

>> No.56504097

>>56504093
Schwab has 24/5 trading dumbass. Lol, lmao.

>> No.56504107

>>56504090
How much does DA HOOD pay you to shill for them?

>> No.56504114

>>56503034
>One of the only reasons for attending college is that many careers require a degree to get hired.
>>56504039
I just bought a PhD. Shit's easy.

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>>56504097

>> No.56504128

>>56504097
Where at? If they do then that will go a long way towards swaying me, but the 4.99% SPAXX is a hard to beat pro for Fagelity.
>>56504107
4.9% on my uninvested cash. Nigger.

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>>56504123
https://www.schwab.com/futures Look at this loser needing to get spoonfed

>> No.56504175

>>56504162
Reread his post (>>56504058). The original anon was talking about Robinhood's gimmicky trading in single tickers (so UNG or BOIL), not futures (/NG).

>> No.56504188

>>56504084
>>56504089
Watch and learn. XMR is not moving the market, but a +7% move is a strong bullish indicator.

>> No.56504194

>>56504175
Why on earth would you want to do that!? Those funds are already scams. Yeah, you KIND OF get futures exposure, but often the contracts they carry aren't even the spot ones. Hell sometimes it is totally random and they're hedged 3-4 contract months out.

>> No.56504202

>>56504175
>>56504090
There's 95 tickers for trade 24/5 and there's nothing gimmicky about it, you see a price you want to buy/sell at and you take it or you don't, just like any other time. It doesn't matter if there's less liquidity, you either like the buy/sell price you can get or you don't.

>> No.56504205

>>56504194
I don't know about that anon's particular reasoning but I'm sure he can give you an answer laden with racial slurs.

>> No.56504216

>>56504194
lol you buy and sell spot contracts?

>> No.56504226

One time I offloaded some SQQQ overnight because I had a feeling it was going to get rekt the next day and it did indeed. You people are some niggers.

>> No.56504230

>>56504188
It's a big move, sure, but chart it against BTC and it seems it's just catching up from having skipped the bump last Monday. Still bizarre.

>> No.56504232

>>56504194
Futures trading is a little intense.

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>dollar
>yields

>> No.56504252

>>56504194
>why on earth would you want to regularly buy a thing low and sell that thing high?
Nigger.

>> No.56504261

>>56504216
Nah. I opened a futures account but never funded it. I've had to model how futures contracts are traded so I pay some attention to the commodities markets still. I looked into some of those ETNs and the fact that the weights are all over the place made it too hard to buy them. WEAT, for example, has 0 ZWZ3 holdings. Schwab is also far and away the worst broker for those. Their site still showed KOLD as being short some contracts that had final settlement dates months ago.
>>56504232
Micros exist now for a lot of instruments. True, trading full contracts as a retailer is a recipe for financial ruin.

>> No.56504265

hey guys, let's talk stocks.

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>>56504265
I'm a Berkshire Hathaway shareholder.

>> No.56504279

baking

>> No.56504282

>>56504265
Never heard of 'em.

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>>56504279
Too soon

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56504296

>>56504294
banking

>> No.56504312

>>56504265
How hard should I short luxury meme brands like LV?

>> No.56504322

>>56504312
Legit question, because during the last crash they seemed to somehow cling on somehow, but I feel they have a helluva lot more exposure now just with China alone (almost non existent then). And all the niggers stealing in America the last three years.

>> No.56504343

>>56504312
LVMHF?
They don't look like a great company but they're also not exactly overpriced. idk, it's kind of on the edge. I wouldn't.
Also it's insurance companies and franchise owners that tend to eat the cost of robberies. Niki did pretty well with their earnings a month or to ago and I think that's a big part of why.

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i'm buying 0DTE calls this entire week. i will get a job this week. i will join a gym because my current setup is not enough anymore. i will abstain from caving in to my porn addiction. i will be financially stabler. for today, i'm going to eat pizza rolls and finish some animes.

>> No.56504362

>>56504312
Maybe some of those Ghetto meme luxury brands that sell overpriced shit to the middle class. Proper luxury brands for oil princes and the likes who do not care about money, those will continue doing well

>> No.56504364

>>56504343
Yeah, but insurance companies are just going to make money off of it, because they spread the cost to both sides. They're a solid buy if they have decent portfolios. If people stop stocking the product because they can no longer afford both the rent/lease arrangments (re-negotiated 3-5 years) and the insurance, they'll just close. It's happening everywhere, grocery stores, corporate real estate, etc.

>> No.56504370

uranium ?

>> No.56504381

>>56504370
No, GEO

>> No.56504380

>>56504370
I'd say meme, but it's not, and Gold has done better than the S&P this year, so there's that. And the 10/2

>> No.56504384

>>56504322
Macro recession cyclical isn't designer stuff for rich people. It's big-ticket items for middle and lower classes like cars and home appliances.

>> No.56504388

>>56504364
If their margins get eaten into insurance companies aren't making money lol. They might charge more but that doesn't mean they're making more money.

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>>56504370
what about my anium? you some kind of faggot or something?

>> No.56504410

>>56504384
Yeah, but everyone is already priced in on those at the bottom. It's the 'expensive cheap stuff' that people can't afford because they have no cash and are relying on credit cards because no one can afford a loan.

Look at housing. Look at property in general. It's crashing.

>>56504388
No, that's what I meant. The insurance company will just make the money up elsewhere. Everyone else loses. Reread my post with that perspective please.

>> No.56504414

>>56504351
>>56504351
>>56504351
>>56504351

>> No.56504424

>>56504388
>>56504410
*not what I meant
fucking NFL Sundays lol

>> No.56504428

>>56504410
Yeah long term the Franchise owner eats the cost.

>> No.56504551

>>56504312
dont luxury brands do good during recession

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>>56504354
Based.