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Ground invasion confirmed

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>Educational sites:
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https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.thebalance.com/

>Free charts:
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>Pre-Market Data and Live data:
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https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Bio-pharma Catalyst Calendar:
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>Boomer Investing 101:
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>List of hedge fund holdings:
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https://squeezemetrics.com/monitor
https://market24hclock.com/
https://tradingeconomics.com
https://wallmine.com/
https://tikr.com/

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>> No.56488588
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>> No.56488589

OIL AND GOLD

>> No.56488590
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>>56488583

>> No.56488591

>>56488583
Tranny bake.

>> No.56488594

Market collapse imminent that will topple this illegitimate Biden junta. Democracy will be restored.

>> No.56488596

>>56488583
ground invasion in 2 more weeks!!!!!!!!

>> No.56488598

it is literally, figuratively, emotionally, spiritually over. it has never been more over than it is right now.

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>>56488583
>Ground invasion confirmed
Boring, fake, and gay.

>> No.56488601

>>56488591
Hey buddy you got the wrong thread, the tranny bake is few posts down

>> No.56488602

BAGGIE DAMMIT YOU FORGOT THE PREV LINK AGAIN.

>> No.56488604
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>>56488589
gold and oil are up
and everyone was really mad in the last thread
what's goin' on big fellas?

>> No.56488606
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56488606

Inb4 a bunch of permadoomer faggots show up and start acting like economic paradigms from the 70s still apply to today, and then they ignore every single positive data point because it would mean admitting they're totally fucking wrong and the most emotional traders on the planet

Ohhhh shit that's every thread now, damn

>> No.56488611

>>56488602
just for you
prev >>56486535

>> No.56488614

>>56488606
literally a paid glownigger

>> No.56488618

>>56488604
The crabbing is fucking with people who can't into fundamental analysis.
CIP
>>56488606

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>>56488614
you gonna get squeezed next week

>> No.56488628
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56488628

rate my bags bros

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>>56488606

>> No.56488631

>>56488611
Thank you.

>> No.56488634

>gold up
>DXY also up

>> No.56488636

>>56488627
You're going to get subpoenaed by Congress.

>> No.56488638
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>>56488606
>they ignore every single positive data point
...why are all the positive data points in commodities and value stocks?

>> No.56488641
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56488641

PUMP MY BAGS WITH YOUR RETARDED CONFLICTS

>> No.56488644

>>56488627
>Two more supports.
It is going to rally some time soon though. unironically.

>> No.56488646

>market NEVER crashing
>Bidenomics is working
>Drumpf lost
>earnings good
>consumer spending still strong
>GDP up
>unemployment record lows
>inflation decreasing
>housing not crashing
>fed achieving soft landing
>banks in bond trouble will be bailed out
>inverted yield curve is a nothing burger
terminally online doomers BTFO. remember as you look at the charts to zoom out. Don't let the weekend permabears get to you with their right-wing propaganda. Go ouside, touch grass.

>> No.56488654

>>56488628
I'm not so sure about that CVE play, hoss.

>> No.56488658

>>56488634
gold is up to its highs in seven different currencies.
DXY is just fiat relative to other fiat.

>> No.56488663

>>56488634
Flight to safety.

>> No.56488665
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>>56488636
by who?

>> No.56488666

>>56488646
Keep coping you dumb IP hopping faggot. Your worst nightmare is continuing to play out in front of you and all you can do is watch. You said it would never happen and yet here we are.

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>>56488641
Buying ESLT lets you stand with a defense contractor *and* Israel.

Can't do that with any of those other three.

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56488676

Hey guys maybe we DON'T reply to one of the biggest schizos to ever consistently shit up /smg/, just this once? See how it goes. I predict that he gets increasingly unhinged and then rage quits.

>> No.56488688
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>>56488654
weekly is double topping and the monthly is engulfing

>> No.56488691

Guys I thought it was Drumpf who was supposed to crash the economy and start world war 3. What happened??

>> No.56488692
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>>56488646
>>market NEVER crashing
It's definitely crabbing
> >Bidenomics is working
Not even sure what this means, Biden doesn't run the fed or congress.
> >Drumpf lost
Who cares, he's a sell out.
> >earnings good
Not proportionately.
> >consumer spending still strong
The consumer is resilient.
> >GDP up
*insert GDP jew joke.*
> >unemployment record lows
Yeah everyone is working multiple part time jobs now.
> >inflation decreasing
Yes, exactly. We think it will continue to decrease as well.
> >housing not crashing
Volume certainly has. Now it's crabbing on just about zero liquidity.
> >fed achieving soft landing
Remains to be seen.
> >banks in bond trouble will be bailed out
Not after March.
> >inverted yield curve is a nothing burger
It hasn't uninverted yet. Respect the lag.

>> No.56488694

>>56488674
What is he thinking?

>> No.56488697

>>56488688
Yeah, but remember it's also an oil company.

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AAPL is going to heem the market next week and my portfolio will die

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>>56488674
I already told you: I do NOT stand with Israel. I am become Jew, profiteer of destruction and misery.

>> No.56488706

>>56488676
Can I still join your discord if I haven't cut my own dick off?

>> No.56488713

>>56488606
List every single positive data point. And also show me your positions and your portfolio.

>> No.56488721

>>56488666
>yet here we are.
where's that exactly? a slightly down week with strong earnings? i thought you doomers said we're crashing? two more weeks?

>> No.56488738

>>56488692
>Yeah everyone is working multiple part time jobs now.
Is there data on this anywhere?

>> No.56488747

>>56488738
Yeah it was in the BLS report.

>> No.56488749

>>56488713
Dude I don't have to dig very deep to find things that obliterate the bear narrative. The GDP number is enough, honestly, but I know people are literally writing it off as "fake" because it doesn't show that the world is ending. We have countless companies generating billions and billions of dollars every month because they A) do good business and B) people and governments have the money to buy their goods and services. Forward outlook through 2025 is good and after that it's even better. Inflation is well within a manageable range and interest rates are historically low.

>> No.56488757

>>56488721
The S&P has been in a down trend with lower highs and lower lows for 3 solid months. It is currently at the lowest weekly close in said 3 months. It is over 10% down solidly in correction territory. The geopolitical issues exacerbating the situation are still trending worse. That's where we're at

>> No.56488765

>>56488721
The market has been on a downward trend since 2021. Your recovery failed in July and we've bee trending down again for months. We're on the verge of the greatest economic collapse in US history, even worse than 1929, and here you are coping about it.

>> No.56488771

>>56488749
The market disagrees with you and if you're right then there's arbitrage for you to profit from.
That's what makes the game so fun.

>> No.56488775

>>56488713
GDP was +5%, companies are smashing estimated earnings, we have disinflation, record levels of employment, positive wage growth (yes, even after inflation) and a healthy, in line with historical trend FORWARD p/e ratio, feds will pause rates soon and any impact from higher rates has been priced in. Need me to go on?

>> No.56488780

i forgot to sell my tesla puts expiring next week eod will i be ok?

>> No.56488781

>>ground war in both Europe and the middle east
>I-It's okay guys, n-nothing to see here new all time highs a-any day now
I mean there's delusion but holy shit wtf is this shit I'm reading in these threads lately?

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>>56488606
IGNORE THE ABSOLUTE STATE AT YOUR PERIL

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>>56488781
I know, what part of "Krugman comes to power" do people not understand? I really wonder.

>> No.56488794

>>56488781
> Oh no! A war economy like the one that powered the us out of the depression is here, quick, sell!
Retard

>> No.56488796

>>56488749
>>56488775
>government starts lying about economic data like China or Russia
>wow look guise everything is so bullish XXXDDD
The market sees right through your bullshit, so we crash. It would have been better if you never tried to hide the data at all.

>> No.56488802

>>56488794
In the late 30's we had a mostly idle industrial base. The fuck you want HR cat ladies to do when the Ford gets sunk under a Hezbollah missile barrage? You think there's a Henry Kaiser wading across the Rio Grande as we speak?

>> No.56488803

>>56488781
They're literally government shills trying to contain the situation. That's how bad things have gotten.

>> No.56488804

>>56488794
The deficit spending was more responsible for that than the war. The war was just an excuse. We've been spending like that, there isn't really anywhere to go.

>> No.56488806

>>56488738
The previous BLS report had full time job losses and significant part time job gains

>> No.56488807

>>56488796
Okay, sure there bud, everyone is lying to you always. This is why we can't take you seriously. Proof was given and you choose to cover your eyes so that the big scary doggie goes away

>> No.56488809

>>56488794
a war economy only works when the bond market is stable

>> No.56488810

>>56488794
>the depression
Finally an apt comparison. When even the perma-bulltards are using the D word you know it's getting bad and the copium will be flowing hot and fast

>> No.56488811

>>56488771
No, the market is red because of a bunch of speculation, not because of selling. Huge difference between retail buying puts from market makers, and market makers actually selling shares.

>>56488794
Stop replying to actual schizos

>> No.56488814

>>56488803
I know the military occasionally posts here but I honestly refuse to believe the fed (or the treasury or whatever) is hiring people to post retarded economic arguments to 4chan. That's completely ridiculous.

>> No.56488817

>>56488807
>>56488811
Your narrative is collapsing.

>> No.56488821

>>56488809
Remember when WW2 kicked off and yields shot up to 3% after Pearl Harbor?

Then the Fed implemented years worth of YCC capping them at 2.5%? Face it, there's only one man willing to give the bond market that stability.

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My calls expired worthless...
Because I am worthless...

>> No.56488822

>>56488811
>No, the market is red because of a bunch of speculation, not because of selling.
Congrats then, if you're right there's arbitrage.

>> No.56488824

>>56488802
Hmm, it's almost as if a war economy builds up industry and makes the economy stronger. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Anyway I'm out, have fun getting squeezed on Monday

>> No.56488828

>>56488814
It's the Department of Homeland Security. They added """"""financial misinformation"""""" to the list of subjects that they try to censor online.

>> No.56488834

>>56488824
There's nobody to build anything up, you idiot.

>> No.56488838

>>56488817
> give me proof
Gives proof
> no not that proof
Sorry bud but youre too far gone. Meds, now.

>> No.56488842

>>56488824
It's inflationary. It helped in the great depression because we were in a deflationary environment. Doing that right now, with this level of inflation and this much debt, would cause a total economic collapse.

>> No.56488843

>>56488749
Post your brokerage account number and your positions and portfolio.

>> No.56488844

>>56488823
No, maybe you just bagheld losers or didn't buy enough theta (i.e. the expiration date you picked was too soon).

>> No.56488846

>>56488821
You can't have a stable bond market when foreign nations are dumping their US bonds at a record pace. It doesn't matter how fast Yellen prints new bonds if there's no market for them. that's why I don't believe deflation will take hold. Dollar devaluation equals inflation.

>> No.56488847

>>56488838
He and that other poster sure are going HARD one after another

>> No.56488850

>>56488828
Lol no way. Actual professional retards.

>> No.56488852

>>56488844
No lol I picked TQQQ to go up, and only slightly...
It ended up dropping like a brick

>> No.56488856

>>56488583
Shroom stocks?

>> No.56488857

>>56488846
Japan is about to stop selling US bonds because they're about to raise interest rates. Then the bond yield freakout part of the bear thesis will also be dead, lmao.

>> No.56488858

>>56488838
Repeating something over and over doesn't make it true, Special Agent LaQueefa.

>> No.56488859

>>56488824
>builds up industry
a very small sector of industry that is directly attached to the military industrial complex.

>> No.56488861

>>56488846
Oh yeah, big time. But people were fine with rationing, 10% inflation, and throwing savings into war bonds in the 1940s because we were getting vengeance on treacherous nips.

Nowadays? Who gives a fuck about some raghead villages?

>> No.56488864

>>56488824
Lol if deficit spending was all that was needed to move the market we would have done it already.
Oh wait, we've been doing that and run out of room there. So all war does then is shrink the production frontier by killing workers and burning resources

>> No.56488866

>>56488757
zoom out doomer
>still up for the year
>muh wars
more nothingburger cope
keep grasping at straws
>>56488765
>We're on the verge of the greatest economic collapse in US history, even worse than 1929,
would you say this "collapse" will start in say, two more weeks?

>> No.56488870

>>56488858
Time for your discord lemon party, incel.

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>>56488857
Anon, the BOJ raising interest rates means that their private capital will sell treasuries instead. All it does is move the problem from Ueda and Suzuki to Ms. Watanabe.

>> No.56488880

>>56488857
Japan can't stop selling bonds as they're facing a currency crisis. They can't stop selling bonds. They must convert to their own currency or their economy will become illiquid.

>> No.56488883

The amount of shill cope is unreal. I'll be checking the local news in the DC metro area to watch for you guys jumping out windows when the market starts capitulating.

>> No.56488890

>Elon Musk plans to turn X into a full on finance platform within a year, says you won’t need a bank account anymore, Verge reports.
lmfao

>> No.56488891

>>56488857
If Japan raises interest rates there won't be a Japan.

>> No.56488892

>>56488861
>Nowadays? Who gives a fuck about some raghead villages?
more importantly, who the fuck wants a shitty US bond?

>> No.56488898

>>56488892
No one, apparently.

>> No.56488899

>>56488890
He saw what happened to South Africa and is trying to speedrun building a parallel society before that happens here. That's all you really know to "get" Elon's random plans.

>> No.56488907

>>56488811
>No, the market is red because of a bunch of speculation, not because of selling
This is a mostly meaningless statement. Short term market fluctuation is almost always the result of speculator activity. That doesn't mean it doesn't reflect a shift in fundamentals that will lead to a big longer term drop. Nobody can predict when price will turn around and go back up. If they could they'd be minted trillionaires. The most likely thing to happen in any trend is for the trend to continue and right now the trend is down. That will eventually change but you do not know when that will be. Could be Monday or it could be in 2026. And when that change in trend happens and price starts going up people can buy back in. Fighting downtrends is a guaranteed way to lose lots of money. If not this time then certainly in the long run
This generally fits as a response to >>56488866 as well

>> No.56488908

Can I get a clear statement of the bear thesis? On one hand the permabull guy makes a convincing argument. On the other hand, things looked good until they didn't in 2007 and every time before. What's the rationale of the relationship between yield curve inversions and recessions?

>> No.56488923

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>> No.56488925

>>56488880
>>56488877
>>56488891
You guys act like central banks don't rewrite rules overnight precisely to deal with things like this. It will happen, again, and you'll be caught with your lil babby pants down, again.

>>56488907
Hahahahaha the long term fundamentals are STELLAR that's the fucking point dumbass

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>>56488908
Everytime the yield curve inverts, a recession follows. It is currently uninverting.

Historically once it comes back to par from an inversion, the US is typically entering a recession.

We just hit 1%

>> No.56488932

>>56488908
>What's the rationale of the relationship between yield curve inversions and recessions?
No one really knows other than it's been very consistent. The best theory I've heard is that people who do know a recession is coming (however that is) buy up the long end of the curve to lock in a good yield before rates get cut and that depresses yields for those treasuries when they should be higher.

>> No.56488934

>>56488927
Past performance is not indicative of future returns OR events.

>> No.56488938

>>56488857
Two more weeks

>> No.56488940

>>56488934
In this case it is.

>> No.56488945

>>56488934
Show me your calls and your portfolio

>> No.56488947

>>56488934
Is there any better predictor of the future than the past?

>> No.56488955

>>56488940
Dunno, yields inverted and people kept their jobs. Inflation has come down, govt spending is highly elevated but that isn't really a problem for right now or in the immediate future. I wouldn't be surprised if yields can leave inversion with very minimal recessionary pressure.

>> No.56488962

>>56488908
The theory goes that you hold rates stable until the economy collapses in which you start lowering rates to free up spending and capital in order to bring it out of a recession. The issue this time is that companys are still cash rich, the rate of inflation is decreasing and the feds will cut rates in 2024 according to the dot plot. So thus, it's likely there will be a soft landing (base scenario) and that there will be no recession as the economy is strong and employment rates are still high. I'm sick of explaining things so schizos so I'm just gonna buy this tasty dip and dca if it continues to drop

>> No.56488964

>>56488934
I like this mindset because it means you should never plan for anything

>> No.56488966
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>Friday night
What can I get y-AARRRHGHHHH SHIT SHIT SHIT

>> No.56488967

>>56488947
ppl who get dubs sometimes do pretty good

>> No.56488969

>>56488775
>GDP was +5%
without government spending and without higher prices it would have been sub 1%
>companies are smashing estimated earnings
they're just that, estimates, and, "companies" means like a few of them. most are not doing this at all.
>we have disinflation
prices continue upwards and do it above 3% which is a fucking disaster and "policy error" will come right back into the vernacular by Q1 '24
>record levels of employment
are you reading the news for the wrong country? or just reading off a sheet from your local democrat party HQ?
>positive wage growth (yes, even after inflation)
factually wrong lmao
>FORWARD p/e ratio
these are not "healthy" hahahah they were at like 29x literally weeks ago, they are crashing faster than 2015-2016 when it was "muh trump" month for reddit
>feds will pause rates soon
you missed it retard! they already are paused! that's the best part!
>priced in
my favorite suicidal phrase
>go on
no, nobody needs you to keep talking. you can leave now. top fuckin' kek

>> No.56488968

>>56488940
>>56488927
Oh interesting, remind me of how much the last inversion had to do with foreign governments dumping US bonds? I forgot, but it should be easy for you to explain

>>56488934
I love how they're always so certain about shit when they pull up old charts lol

>> No.56488970

>>56488945
I only sell covered calls. I don't gamble much otherwise, but I did slurp some BAC today that's for sure.
>>56488947
Past performance is not indicative of future returns, so no, not really. Could be could not be.

>> No.56488971

>>56488955
the pain is usually after yields uninvert, not during inversion.

Also all insiders selling their bags, Jensen, Tim Cook, now JPM's today.

>> No.56488975

>>56488968
"Bro I lined up these charts from 1950 and today, it's happening". 90% of stock behavior is fucking retarded anyway.

>> No.56488976

>>56488890
He's been getting transmitter licenses. Not sure what the status is now though.

>> No.56488977

>>56488968
You made this same argument last Friday evening, and got dumped on the entire week. In fact, you said we were gonna gigapump on Monday, kek.

>> No.56488981

>>56488969
FORWARD p/e, not historical p/e moron. Learn the fucking difference.

>> No.56488986

>>56488971
Jensen and Cook sales were scheduled far in advance and are standard for them. Jamie Dimon is a weirdo doing shit and everyone knows it. His stock has ran hard this year as well.

>> No.56488989

>>56488925
>You guys act like central banks don't rewrite rules overnight precisely to deal with things like this.
central banks don't make decisions on the fly. everything they do is planned. and I have no doubt that once they've printed dollars into oblivion, which they are currently in the process of doing, they will have a brand new, sparkly piece of dog shit currency for us all to play with.

>> No.56488992

>>56488969
See, the fact that you somehow manage to make it about Republicans vs Democrats completely invalidates your argument. Fucking retarded middle-school tier thinking.

>>56488977
>Dude within the last five trading days X and Y hasn't happened!
Always, always, every time, always the most shortsighted people in the room

>> No.56488997

>>56488981
actual brain damage, can't even read. the average forward P/E was 29x, it is crashing like a rock, the fact that it is at about 17x now is not going to stop you getting heemed

>> No.56489000

>>56488955
and what about the dollar? what about our debt? Just ignore that meaningless side of economics?

>> No.56489008

>>56488992
>See, the fact that you somehow manage to make it about Republicans vs Democrats completely invalidates your argument. Fucking retarded middle-school tier thinking.
absolutely positively disingenuous pil-pul, accuse me of what he's clearly doing
you know no one would defend this retarded shit unless they were reading off a "bidenomics" script

>> No.56489011

>>56488824
>Hmm, it's almost as if a war economy builds up industry and makes the economy stronger
A lot of claims are made by people claiming to use macroeconomic and geopolitical news to time the market but there is scant to no evidence of them actually being more successful at it than just flipping a coin. The market will go up at some point. It will also crash at some point. Interest rates will also go up and down at some point but you don't know when that time will be so you can't use it to time the direction of the market. Furthermore even if you did know the precise timing and out of macroeconomic event you don't know how the market will react. Timing imminent changes in market direction is folly and many newbs fall into the trap thinking they can do it when nobody else can.
The alternative is when the price is going down, get out. When it's going up, get in. No timing necessary. Just look at things as they stand in this moment. The most likely next move by the market will be to continue whatever it's doing right now. That is the only thing that you can say is more likely than chance and that's the only thing that's worth basing a trade on. The market is presently going down. Act accordingly
>>56488925
>Hahahahaha the long term fundamentals are STELLAR that's the fucking point dumbass
Are you retarded? The long term fundamentals are irrelevant to what's happening in the market at this exact moment. Long term fundamentals drive long term price not short term fluctuation and short term fluctuation can last for a time that feels a lot more than "short". The market is right now at this very moment going down. It has been going down for 3 months straight. It will likely continue going down. it will do this until it doesn't and the long term fundamentals don't change that in the slightest. By far the most likely outcome is the market keeps going in its current direction. Predicting an imminent change in direction is impossible with better odds than coin flipping

>> No.56489024

>>56488925
Anon, they can't print to buy bonds because that weakens the currency. They can't implement austerity to cut down on bond issuance because that causes recession. At these debt levels there's simply no winning move; only different ways to lose.

>> No.56489029

>people act like earnings haven't shown really strong companies with good margins and cash
Even if they didn't grow for the next 3 quarters and the equity value dropped you would totally be able to acquire and make strong returns when economic conditions shift.
>>56489000
>the debt matters ahhh!!!
People have and will scream this for the next century. As long as interest payments remain sensible it works.

>> No.56489036

I'm neet, have 900k liquid (inheritance) and no source of income. What the fuck do I do besides putting some in bitcoin?

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>>56488986
>Jamie Dimon is a weirdo doing shit and everyone knows it.
"please heem me, mr. market"

>> No.56489040

>>56489036
Just buy a shit load of fucking bonds lmao

>> No.56489044

>>56489036
Put it all in Bitcoin, sell in 6 months.

>> No.56489046

>>56488997
Oh no, I was wrong even though I was correct. Fucking retard.

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>>56489029
>As long as interest payments remain sensible it works.
oh yeah?

>> No.56489048

>>56488925
>You guys act like central banks don't rewrite rules
If they did this that would be the end of the dollar.
I guess you wouldn't have to worry about a recession at that point since you'd be going hard in the other direction.

>> No.56489049

>>56489024
Ohhh yeah I'm sure you have it all figured out, you should call the Bank of Japan I bet they need your help

>>56488981
I don't think that guy understands the implication of p/e going down lmfao

>>56489011
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha you ACTUALLY SAID "fundamentals are irrelevant" jesus fuck

>> No.56489051

>>56489011
>It will likely continue going down. it will do this until it doesn't
and then, after the market crashes for the last time and despair sweeps the nation and everyone is destitute, they'll roll out CBDC. by that point the 1% will own the vast majority of physical assets and we will spend the rest of our days as good lil slaves. but we'll be happy and bugs.

>> No.56489053

>>56489038
Jamie also shit on regionals to help himself buy them up. He does shit on purpose.

>> No.56489054

>>56489040
Nonody wants your worthless bags, Janet. The government is going to default.

>> No.56489059

>>56489040
>lose 9% yearly to inflation
I think I have to pass

>> No.56489060

>>56489049
I left the Bank in April. Did all I could but no way I was going to tarnish my legacy by sticking around.

Plus, 24/7 shitposting on /smg/ is much more fun than press conferences.

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what will SPY bottom out to?

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>>56488859
I'd argue this point is unreasonable against his main point, mostly because the industry surrounding supporting men in the field can easily be turned into civilian industry creating vast quantities of wealth. The issue is that 3+kGqXaW doesn't seem to understand the concept of time horizons, and that military industries don't rapidly expand due to tiny little wars in the fucking sand over nothing.
Just like in everything, there are inevitably diminishing returns until we revolutionise the way we do war and thusly revolutionise all of the sectors of industry within the overall interconnected web supporting said war; and this war doesn't have the necessary selective pressures like we did in the 30's and 40's; because WW2 was WAY FUCKING BIGGER than any of the bullshit we're throwing absolute shitfits over in 2023.
>>56488934
The statement "Past performance does not indicate future results" only means that the patterns you see have deeper meanings, and if you lack the understanding of these deeper meanings "Past performance does not indicate future results". If you can understand them however, you literally can indicate future results. That's how consulting firms work, retard.
>>56488992
>reps v dems
You missed the core of his argument and you're actively being disingenuous, change this behavior or otherwise you will fall into the newmale trap of dismissing without actually paying attention to what he's saying leading to your own beliefs never being challenged; of which will only lead to ruin when inevitably you make a bad play that you were warned against. It is a lesson you will learn eventually, or you will fail, fall, and be ground up within the depths of retard daytraders who insist they're technically profiting when they're actually down 96.2% YoY (but the line is green so its all good :) )

We are so fucked you retards can't even imagine. People here are still posting about recessions when the language should be shifting to getting out of USD&CNY

>> No.56489069

>>56488749
>The GDP number is enough
>>56488775
>GDP was +5%
the GDP number is entirely from government DEFICIT spending. Biden is deficit spending to try to stave off a recession until the next election can happen

>> No.56489079

>>56489068
The size of the war doesn't matter, the amount of deficit spending does. War is only an excuse and if you had the spending without a war you'd get a much larger boost because you wouldn't be destroying productive workers/resources in a war.
And we don't have room for more spending like that. A war would only have a depressing effect on the economy now no matter how big.

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Was this a good financial decision?

>> No.56489083

>>56489049
>Hahahahahahahahahahahaha you ACTUALLY SAID "fundamentals are irrelevant" jesus fuck
To what's happening in the market at this moment. Yes that is what I said in its entirety. The market has been dropping for 3 months straight while volatility is rising. If you claim that is based on long term fundamentals then this directly contradicts your earlier claims that the long term fundamentals are stellar. It can't be both either long term fundamentals are shit and current market direction reflects that or long term fundamentals are "stellar" but that isn't enough to stop short speculators from selling. If it's the former then you your fundamental premise is obviously wrong therefore your analysis is worthless. If it's the latter then you are obviously confused because the comment I'm replying to implies the opposite. Either way I think you don't really know what you're talking about so you're trying to rely on sophistry to shift some kind of disconnected narrative around on a mongolian basket weaving forum catering to mostly neets in their pajamas. Which seems kinda a waste of time

>> No.56489085

>>56489038
rothchilds were selling a bunch of their art assets a few weeks ago too, surely unrelated

>> No.56489089

>>56489082
How many cores? How much ram?

>> No.56489091

>>56489069
> the GDP number is entirely from government DEFICIT spending.
So? Doesn't matter too much what causes the markets to go up as long as they go up. Or you can try and short all that helicopter money. Your choice

>> No.56489095

>>56489091
>Breaking windows drives contractor employment.

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>>56489089
8cores
16gb

>> No.56489099

>>56489095
Bullish (short term)

>> No.56489103

>>56489097
You need to get those numbers up, those are rookie numbers.

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>>56489097
>tfw fell for the 16gb of RAM meme

>> No.56489108

>>56489099
Yes. If you think this dump will continue to the end of the year you're retarded.
If you think it won't be worse next year you're also retarded.

>> No.56489109

This is a shit war, why are arabs not chimping out more, that's all they are good for.

Pump my oil bags sandfags.

>> No.56489111

I'm buying Bobo

>> No.56489113

>>56489082
install gentoo

>> No.56489116

>>56489111
Lying is a sin.

>> No.56489117
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hope you all made some good profits this week biz bros. Im gonna go grind some Alan Wake 2 now.

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>>56489049
>I don't think that guy understands the implication of p/e going down
oh yeah? here's what i know:
it's 12-month forward analyst estimates for earnings, which means fuckall since analysts are only used to falling rate environments, and, two, i know both you and that glowie faggot don't have a copy of this chart or anything like it
"number is high tho?" yeah until it's not. there's shit earnings coming in 2024 you fucking clowns, you're acting like the ratios are the fundamentals -- the fundamentals are people's wallets, credit cards, mortgages, their net worth -- analysts are way out of line with reality

>> No.56489121

>>56489108
There is plenty of road left to kick this can down to. If you're planning for some societal collapse, maybe the shiney boomer rock /pmg/ general is more your thing

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>>56489105
>>56489097

>> No.56489129

>>56489091
>helicopter money
it's only going to defense stocks. if you want to go long GD or LMT or something, that makes sense

>> No.56489130

>>56489109
Please, anon, use the term "sand niggers", "dune coons", "ragheads", "camel jockeys", "moon worshipers", or "goat fuckers". I'm probably forgetting a few, but nothing breeds slur creativity better than a war.

>This post sponsored by UCO. Buy UCO today.

>> No.56489135

>>56489121
There won't be a collapse but there will be an asset price crash in real terms (and likely in nominal terms.)

>> No.56489144

>>56489059
Don't stocks do this too?

>> No.56489149

>>56489135
So printing shit loads of money and tossing it into the economy is bearish? It's gonna be 2021 but on roids

>> No.56489152

>>56489149
So you're the one betting on a collapse then.

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I made some money today... not much...
But enough to eat the good ramen

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>>56489155
>good ramen
Fuck, I need to buy more LABD. Thanks for the reminder, anon.

>> No.56489166

>>56488646
Even if macroeconomic factors appeared good to you now you don't how and the magnitude they are likely to change. You don't have a crystal ball so you can't tell the future. Therefore if the market is current trending down you can't rely on positive fundamentals as a reason to randomly buy trying to time the bottom. The move with the highest expected value is to trade in the direction of the prevailing trend since this avoids the impossible task of trying to predict change. There are three market predictions people try and here they are in order of difficulty. Easiest is that the market will keep doing what it's doing now. Middle difficulty is the market will keep doing what it's doing but making a prediction on the magnitude of the move. Last and so difficult it's basically impossible is the prediction that the market will change direction imminently and I will time this move so well and in such succession that I can base my trading strategy on it. That isn't just difficult it's practically impossible. You cannot predict changes in market direction with more precision than flipping a coin in the long term no matter which tea leaves you use be they meme lines, fundamentals, macro, geopolitical, etc. Even the members of the FOMC were flat wrong about inflation being transitory and they were flat wrong about the future of interest rates claiming they weren't going up when they themselves SET THE INTEREST RATES. They are the ones who would know best and not even they can do it. But you think you can. And you're wasting your talent here. Hmm

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>>56489011
>>56489166
This is potentially some of the worst advice you could ever give, or even hold in your brain. "You can't tell when its going to rain, so only bring an umbrella outside when its actively raining instead of looking at the forecast for the day" is genuinely some of the lowest tier retarded content I've seen. What the fuck happened to biz?
>>56489079
Incorrect. Large scale conflicts between major industrial powers (and earlier imperial powers) drives technological growth which in turn drives productive growth over wanton deficit spending within a vacuum. Vacuum spending leads to further inefficiencies within the economy overall as more money is pumped into the private sector from thin air which promotes bad business practices which inevitably leads to lower productive output in the end; however when combined with major leaps forward within technology this can still lead to overall more goods being produced at a higher efficiency due to the technological aspects influences upon business practices.
If the US hadn't gone through ww2, mass production of plastics to fit the demand of the American war machine would not have occurred, and that same industrial base would not exist to later create the massive plastics industry that fulfilled consumer interest.
Without war, operation paperclip couldn't have occurred, and that's the basis of literally all of our rocketry. The space industry as we know it today would not exist without funny moustache man.
I could go on, but peacetime 'vacuum' deficit spending =/= wartime deficit spending
>>56489069
and in the end he's only making things so much worse. Low time preference for governments was honestly the biggest fucking mistake humanity could've made.

>> No.56489190

>>56489173
War doesn't magically produce efficiency, it's just another target for spending.
How could you even write something so ridiculous?

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>>56488590

Palestinians already crying because there are literally zero Palestinian businesses you can invest in. Jordan doesn't want them, Syria doesn't want them, Egypt REALLY doesn't want them, and Israel lacks the sack to just exterminate them.

I bought LMT on October 2nd. Next up in Cannabis.

>> No.56489202

>>56489192
I honestly hate both groups of people and think the whole situation is bullshit that we shouldn't be involved in.
I'm just tired of hearing about Ben Shapiro every time I have dinner with my boomer parents.

>> No.56489203
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new paradigm this, black swan that
i just wanna make money for god's sake

>> No.56489223

nigger

>> No.56489227

>>56489173
>"You can't tell when its going to rain, so only bring an umbrella outside when its actively raining instead of looking at the forecast for the day" is genuinely some of the lowest tier retarded content I've seen
Modeling short term weather patterns has progressed to the point where predicting whether it will rain in the next 24 hours has an over 90% success rate. A bit less when predicting over the next 3 days. But even weather model success rate drops off sharply after about 10 days to the point they are essentially worthless. Weather modeling is a statistical science worthy of the name. Predicting changes in the prevailing trend of a stock price isn't comparable in any way because there is no method for doing it that is more successful than the results you would expect to get from pure chance
Listen, I was a newb once and I know it seems like it lends credibility to your post by adding a little bluster but you are very confused if you think the success and development of meteorological science is indicative of what you can expect timing the market. That you would compare the two is laughable. Nice self portrait though it fits

>> No.56489236

fellow bears its shut the fuck up friday until jerome stops lowering rates like 2 years from now. dont justify, dont gloat, dont share info. just let mumu die in silence.

>> No.56489240

>>56489202

>Crying about a conservative Jew

Shut the fuck up. Leftist Jews are a problem, stop crying about the solution. Go short on LMT and buy Cannabis stocks. LMT will drop back down to the Oct. 4th levels by the end of November. Regulations on THCa hemp products are coming in the next 6 months, which will shift almost a billion dollars of annual business to dispensaries in the US.

>> No.56489242

>>56489203
Yeah, you and everybody else. The problem is when it comes to markets we're in a knife fight for increasingly scarce dollars. No QE (worse, QT!) and rising yields means those fucks in bond land take more and more cash money away from equities.

>> No.56489245

>>56489240
I hate all jews equally.

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>>56489203
Then you need to learn your paradigms and swans

>> No.56489247

>>56489240
>jews are the solution to jews

>> No.56489250

>>56489097
>bare minimum RAM
OH NONONONONO

>> No.56489259

I've decided to start reinvesting most of my bond portfolio into stock indecies and change my dca from 75/25 to 90/10

>> No.56489261

>>56489127
based 8gb of RAM chad

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>>56489190
Retard. Have you considered actually reading what people post before writing replies? My entire point is that war produces technological improvements of which that overall positively impact industrial efficiency because inherently the government spending during wartime is more focused on rapid technological improvements with extremely high selective pressure.
Are you merely pretending to be retarded, or did you genuinely never put this together?
>>56489227
>But even weather model success rate drops off sharply after about 10 days to the point they are essentially worthless.
Yeah, but say you want to travel to indonesia and you are capable of independent research; when you go to indonesia, its not raining that very day so you feel no need to bring nor buy an umbrella. However, by digging your head in the sand and scheduling a 1 month stay during the bridge between the dry and monsoon season; and in the end you end up being stuck inside for half your trip.
If you're capable of knowing why monsoons happen at that particular time of year, you're capable of understanding why the rain will come months in advance.
The stock market is a combination of both short term and long term indicators, both those that tell of short term (Say, weather forecasts for the next couple of days), and those that inform you of when the rainy season and when the dry season are coming. If you bury your head in the sand and only listen to one half of the equation, you're fucking retarded and are failing to plan; of which is the same as planning to fail.
(You) are fucking retarded, fullstop. Reconsider your understanding and try to learn, or you will remain so. It's your decision in the end, I'm merely pointing it out.

>> No.56489285

fuck israel

>> No.56489291

>>56489285
Whoa, buddy, cool it. They're giving you a great opportunity for oil and gold gains.

>> No.56489299

>>56489250
I invested the difference in ADSK

>> No.56489302

>>56489192
>>56489227
This guy is a jew
> Israel lacks the sack to just exterminate them
Maybe you should have been exterminated

>> No.56489305

>>56489279
I read and understood your post completely. There's nothing magical about war that improves the selective pressure. I've worked for defense companies and seen the absolute garbage they produce.

>> No.56489311

>>56489302
Second link meant for him
>>56489240

>> No.56489317

>>56488967
Underrated.

>> No.56489321

hmmm, starting to think the goldbros may actually be right this time
gold is still lower than the highs of 2020, 2022, and 2023, yet the world is now a powder keg, both economically and militarily

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Oh my god holy fucking shit imagine referring to the multi-decade slap fight between Israel and Palestine as a "war" after the mainstream media told you to. And then, imagine trading based on that. Man. It really depresses me how absolutely retarded people are.

>> No.56489331

>>56489322
they better pump my bags

>> No.56489341

>>56489322
its mostly right-wing retards on here from /pol/ desperate for the markets to validate their retarded politics. Since a democrat is in office it doesn't actually matter what is happening in the economy they just pump out doomer talking points and the idiots here gobble them up to justify their worldview. ME is a nothingburger. There will be no crash

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Most of you disgusting zoomers won't know how based gen x was

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=9EKi2E9dVY8&si=Hwm6Gyf7vvOew4GI

>> No.56489362

>Russia sanctions
>Shitshow in middle east
WHY ISN'T OIL $200/barrell YET? IT WAS ALMOST TWICE AS EXPENSIVE IN 2008 THAN IT IS NOW. WTF????

>> No.56489368

>>56489227
To carry the umbrella analogy further and make it correct it would be as if weather reports always have a 50% accuracy rate and the chance of rain itself on any given day was 50% either it will or won't rain (kind of like how price either goes up or down on any given day with about equal likelihood). The rational thing would be to always carry an umbrella in your car and if should happen to start raining use the umbrella. Just like you can't predict the timing of changes market trend so you have to always be ready and you have to respect the current direction and position yourself with it. Lest you get wet. Or something
>>56489279
Your Indonesia analogy doesn't work because I've already established that weather forecasting and predicting the stock market aren't comparable and no conclusions can be drawn from one to the other
>(You) are fucking retarded, fullstop
This doesn't make your argument any more compelling. You're trying to use namecalling, sophistry and analogy to make a point that your analogy doesn't apply to and has no predictive value for. You can't predict changes in market direction with an accuracy rate higher than flipping a coin. The only worthwhile statement on the market or any other macroeconomic indicator for that matter is the very next observation will be a continuation of the current trend. There's a valid "full stop" and that's the only valid full stop. I shouldn't even be telling you this since you're so smugly arrogant about your own ignorance I hate to relieve you of it. I know you either don't actually trade or if you do you lose money at it. Nobody that posts your foolishness could be profitable. I could fix that if I kept going but I think I'll stop now. Good luck li'l wolf of wall street

>> No.56489369

>>56489341
Yeah I'm really ready for things to go back to how they were January - August. Regular retarded bear posting is one thing but this doomer shit is completely obnoxious.

>> No.56489371

>>56489362
The US is "out of steam" and there won't be a war. Everyone knows this.

>> No.56489376

>>56489240
>Regulations on THCa hemp products are coming in the next 6 months, which will shift almost a billion dollars of annual business to dispensaries in the US.
Like what? We already have the Farm Bill, you can buy vapes in every state and 'synthetic' flower, blunts, etc. online if you don't have a gas station local to you.

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>macro schizos

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>>56489346
Cornell > Cantrell> Staley > Macready > Vedder > Cobain

>> No.56489390

>>56489068
>getting out of USD&CNY

why doe

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SIGA sissies any predictions on share price after the Nov 2 earnings report?

>> No.56489399

>>56489390
Because they super high compared to anything else? Have you not looked at currencies?

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>>56489397
One day we'll see an ominous breakout on one of those mpox case count charts. But it is not this day. SIGA will remain as stable as GRND.

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They’re gearing up to buy again.

>> No.56489477

>>56489236
>resorting to reverse psychology
The crash is coming and you can't stop it.

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Normies are still buying calls on overvalued tech stocks. Fake bears who fomo'd into the bear market rally in the summer after missing the majority of the gains are in the red now. They are incentivized to continue selling their positions for tax purposes. Inflation is too high to cut rates in the near term and (((the consumer is strong))) as proven by the (((5% GDP))) number. Tim Apple dumped $50M worth of shares a few weeks ago. Jamie Dimon is about to dump $150M worth of shares. Nvidia is still trading at 30x sales even though all major cloud providers hinted at slower growth (meaning less data center demand). It doesn't really make sense to rotate into defensive names when you can get 6% in fixed income. Oil reclaimed and closed above $90 as the US enters some geopolitical tension with the largest energy providers in the world at the same time that China is entering a QE cycle to drive up demand. Janet Yellen is in charge.

Good luck.

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>>56489432
I agree, there's no major outbreak currently underway, however SIGA announced some large orders in recent months and those orders will be reflected in the November earnings report. The stock is very undervalued right now

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This is a song for poem anon. I love you like scoopsies except I don't want to rape your butt.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=b-JSm_La7co&si=7vBl3MavJxXLLCtP

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>>56488606
You guys are so gay and retarded, it's frightening. It's like a slow melt of gay and retarded just flowing over our bodies and we reject it, but you just keep pouring the sauce.

Fuck all you gay "Glowie" sandniggers purporting to be servants of the United States. We've got your card and you're faggots.

Shill a stock you fucking defective, degenerative, women, faggots.

>> No.56489503

>>56489491
True, but personally I'm keeping anything like that in quarantine until XBI stops dragging the sector down. Maybe some SIGA + LABD could work though.

>> No.56489534
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>>56489305
>there's nothing about war that improves selective pressure
Are you fucking with me, or are you genuinely this retarded? You haven't even seen the kind of conflict I'm making points upon, and if anything you're only nailing my point in further. When major industrial powers aren't at war with eachother, and all that's going on is piddling conflicts between eastern europeans and the continuous wars in the middle east these organisations only get more inefficient due to the lack of selective pressures provided and the corresponding lack of technological development.
>>56489390
CNY is rearing for a massive pullback over the next couple of years as deflation inevitably hits their economy. Either they make the play for taiwan by 2027 (of which then we're all fucked, so I seriously doubt it) or the chinese population will continue to decline and their economy will collapse due to both internal pressures (From their massive governmental debt crisis, to their internal real estate crisis, to their outright demographic collapse) and external pressures such as the overall worldwide recession we likely will be experiencing at such a time dragging down chinese exports and lowering the overall need for their mass-built infrastructure worldwide which depreciates at a rapid rate due to shitty building practices. Overall, international need of the rmb will drop like a stone as China continues to reel from their first economic recession since Deng.
>USD
please google USD 30y bond and zoom out for me.

>> No.56489546
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>>56489368
So you dismissed and ignored the analogy I'm making because you integrally misunderstood it; then restated your original point with no actual improvement upon your arguments. There's no misunderstanding here, you're genuinely just arguing in bad faith. You've "established" that the rain analogy doesn't work, I provided a direct counter to you of which that proves you wrong, you misdirect and ignore the fact that my point actually does make sense from an angle you hadn't considered it from; and then you attempt to do a paltry copy of my textual smackdowns by misrepresenting my argument and ignoring the core of my point whilst trying in vain to insult me because my "insults" (they're little more than reflections of your behaviour, due to this being an inherently anonymous imageboard) strike true and you cannot cope with this fact.
Your head is buried in the sand because you refuse to pay attention to the extreme basics like long term indicators. And I? I am nothing more than a funhouse mirror's reflection of society; the acknowledgement of this statement doesn't hurt me, as I revel in being a clown; precisely because it allows me to say the absolute truth in a way that will still make people laugh. So what?

>> No.56489567
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>>56489480
WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
>WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
>WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
>WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE
>WHEN YOU WAKE UP YOUR SHIT IS GONE

>> No.56489578

>>56489567
Death Grips sucks

>> No.56489580

>>56489480
Holy SHIT that's a lot of cope

>normies are buying calls
Imagine believing this shit. Imagine believing that retail isn't bearish as fuck.

>> No.56489582

What's to be expected lads? I want to take advantage of my local curreny us dollar exchange rate

>> No.56489606

>>56489582
It all rests on November 1st. Is Powell ok with rising bond yields? We'll see. Nothing else has made him budge while 10 year bonds reach 20 year highs. Does he care? Maybe he doesn't.

Maybe he wants to see another bank go under.

>> No.56489608

>>56489322
eh, it's a middle east conflict which at least might have an impact on the price of oil

>> No.56489619
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Every time I make a profit I think of getting raped by capital gains taxes

>> No.56489621
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56489621

Another day. Another day of just not giving a flying shat about places outside U.S owned (Exception being Japan but nothing happens there so meh thank god). Why? Cause its all bullshit. In some parts of the world they've been fighting over shat for ages. Borders come and go, presidents and dictators come and go, they keep on fighting. Cause that's just how it is. Not to say its not sad; It is, but nothing you or me can do about it.

>> No.56489648

>>56489480
You guys are huffing your own farts if you think retail isn't bearish and the overall sentiment hasn't been bearish. You dumb fucks are going to get caught with your pants down again.

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>>56489580
>He doesn't look at options volumes and just makes assumptions off his intuition
I remember my first beer

>> No.56489665

>>56489655
Yeah that's Big Money you dumb dingaling

>> No.56489666

HELP ME. I LISTENED TO MUMUS WHO TOLD ME NOT TO SELL

How to I fix this over the weekend?

>> No.56489674

>>56489666
>he can’t sell now

Get a real broker, not in europe

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>look into swinging 1dte $40.5 SQ puts for $15 at close yesterday when the price was $41.78
>assume it will just crab and open at $6 each as usual so I don’t buy any
>wake up to see SQ drop to $39.26 with the puts worth $130 each
ahhhhhh

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...i didnt listen...i didnt learn...i

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I'm going to bed. I wanted to post a song for baggot as one Jew to another.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=zAPYZVUbthU&si=ocAd6zLs0lpO0Dc9

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56489846

One last thing. A song for scoopsies

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=khOFB1Erzdg&si=aQhKBbH6G6ZyMK_h

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>>56489830
>>56489846

>> No.56490004

The stock market is closed.

>> No.56490009
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56490009

>buy AMZN 0DTE $130 calls early morning
>it crabs under $128
>close at a $5 loss and buy AMZN 0DTE $127 puts before noon
>it crabs above $128
>close at a $400 loss and eat BBQ and watch the Blade movies
i hate the stock market!

>> No.56490014

>>56490004
general will be open all weekend tho

>> No.56490025

I love these retards who say if you buy a bond at 5% that's all you're going to get. It's like nah you're only going to get that if you hold u til maturity. Everyone on /biz/ who buys bonds at 5% will sell them for a loss and buy bonds at 5.5% later.

>> No.56490027

So is Biden actually a Chinese agent trying to collapse the United States for real then? He drained the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right before going to war with Iran.

>> No.56490057

>>56490027
95% of Washington D.C. still thinks we live in the 1990s. It’s insane. They think the liberal international order still exists. It died in 2009. Some might even say 2001 (debatable).
When I say they have no idea what they are doing, trust me.
We wouldn’t even be able to have a sustainable war economy if WW3 pops off. Could you imagine rationing rubber in a country that is prosperous because of tires?

>> No.56490070

>>56490027
His state of mind is in another realm where even he can't comprehend it.

>> No.56490073

What the fuck happened to the market. My investments are all down 20 points in the last week.

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>>56490027
>He drained the Strategic Petroleum Reserve right before going to war with Iran
that was the plan from the start. "run out" of oil and invade the middle east for more free oil

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>>56490009
Hey you know what is way better than gambling money in the stock market when you are unemployed. Submitting more job applications. Get to it bucko.

>> No.56490083

>>56490076
US literally has unlimited oil, though. Why take from the middle east?

>> No.56490087

>>56490070
Hearty chuckle

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>>56490079
y-yes Ramsey-san....

>>56490083
because thats how you keep it unlimited. by using everyone else's resources before your own. a buddy of mine did that with his younger siblings apparently.

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>>56490076
>>56490092
>he thinks there's a plan

>> No.56490100

>>56490076
>>56490083
But we also have to supply yurop now.

>> No.56490102

>>56488823
No, retard, you are worth a fucking big time major amount of value. Stop listening to demons whispering otherwise into your mind and soul. It is ok to not be perfect or even anywhere near it according to the priorities of this sick fucking world. May the LORD GOD Almighty bless and keep you, listen for the voice of the Shepherd and seek to walk with Him, faggot.

>> No.56490110
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56490110

>>56490009
Stop gambling on options

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>>56490095
>>56490100
>>56490110
i'm gonna go practice some guitar......

>> No.56490119
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>>56490092
Chop chop. I know you can submit at least 3 tonight before you go to bed. And there better be nothing in your panty but rice and beans. God help you if you have any credit card debt.

>> No.56490123

>>56488890
I will never entrust the safety of my capital to shit that spergniggertard has had cobbled together.

>> No.56490132
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56490132

>even Domino's is incorporating the idea of total collapse into their marketing now
uhh

>> No.56490133
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56490133

Stochastic Oscillator > MACD

change my mind

>> No.56490150

Buying TUP calls because there's no volume and it bottomed, should bounce again pretty soon.

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>>56490119
i'm a union wagie, so technically i just wait for a job posting and place my name in the "want the job" list if i want it. otherwise i just wait for a company/job that i want to work at. there's some beans and rice, and beef jerky, and cookies, and tea in the pantry, among other things. oh and i got a store credit card because the nice old lady from kentucky told me i would save money on the clothes i was buying if i applied. i got a $7k limit! the clothes were originally $300 and with the discount it was down to $140! talk about an art of the deal!

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56490171

They are going to let me make actual money in oil stocks right?

>> No.56490209

>>56490171
Yes, but only if you own COP and enlist in the fight to defend Conoco Gas Field Base in Syria. Watch out though, the drones are spicy and I think the Iranians are figuring out our electronic countermeasures.

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>>56490160
> you can just raise your hand and get a job
I sure hope you put your name in the first that shows up. And if not you better have a real good reason. Union or no, everyone loves a go-getter with a FIRM handshake not a slacker with a limp wrist. Right now you are in an income code red situation, plan accordingly.

Speaking of which, that credit limit is pretty high. If you have enough to burn on stocks, you probably have enough to keep it current, but if you find yourself not making the FULL payment EVERY month you need to take your pair of sciscors and cut that bad boy in half. Credit cards ESPECIALLY store cards are the last thing you need right now. Good luck, I know you can come out of this stronger and wiser.

>> No.56490239

It's all falling apart. WW3 by Christmas. Collapse by Easter.

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>>56490209
that isn't exactly how I thought I would be profiting off of war

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>>56490225
>> you can just raise your hand and get a job
not always, but generally yes. as i've said before, there's a certain job i want to work at and the time to hire us is soon. its a job that will be 60-80 hours a week for at least a year.

i have a good goy score because i only take on debt that i can pay off in 6 months (that includes auto payments) except for my mortgage of course. i like my store cards, i use them because i shop at those stores all the time

>> No.56490277

>>56488823
I know we're supposed to have an ironic facade here and everything but being totally serious if you want to build your account you cannot trade in a way that allows for holding OTM options at expiry. If you take a 50% loss it takes almost two 50% gains just to make it up! If you want to change your life by walking into the casino and betting it all on black then power to you. But that's a strategy for desperate people and no one trying to make money in the market long term trades like that because they'd lose everything. Staying away from losing trades is at least as important as finding winning ones.

If you're going to swing trade options you need to buy long expiry like >>56488844 full house anon said. And whether you swing or day trade options you need to have a stop loss. Either an order entered into your broker or just mental, but you have to have one and follow it.

The psychology of loss guarantees a huge capital drawdown if you don't have a stop in mind before you begin. At first it'll seem too small a loss to cut, and like it might easily come back. Then it'll seem too painful a loss to accept, and you hope it comes back. Then it loses so much value you say fuck it and let it go to $0.

Don't buy short expiry options and let them go to $0. Give yourself a chance at least.

>> No.56490284
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>>56490268
Ain't that just how it is? Everybody wants to war profiteer until it's time to do a little war. Man up.

>> No.56490303

>>56490284
No pussy, no war. I'm going to need more than a picture of a chicken nuggie to fight for.

>> No.56490307
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Im still not selling my shorts

>> No.56490321
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>>56490303
Son, Conoco needs you. But we'll offer you a chance to bang the head of legal. Will she do?

>> No.56490328

I'm down (-38%) this year.
HOWEVER
I'm up +50% over 3 years, beating the s&p500.
Bears rise UP
Checkem

>> No.56490346

that i saw an armored loomis van that looked like it'd been tboned and they were still using it for work.
idk bros i think that's a bearish signal

>> No.56490347

>>56490277
>Don't buy short expiry options and let them go to $0. Give yourself a chance at least
Generally I agree with this and had that mentality last week and sold 0dte puts worth $333 for $150, an hour later they were worth $333 because I guess I was just entered the position too early for the bearish pattern to play out.

>> No.56490361

>>56490133
lagging indicator

>> No.56490379

>>56490277
One of the most worthwhile posts I've ever seen here. The psychological phases especially. I know when I tried options for the first time a few months ago that I definitely failed on the not buying enough expiry, but did hold *decently* to mental stops. I let the losses dip just a little too far into the zone of the too painful, *but*, I was being *very* conservative with my range and only lost about $30 I think it was (which is a meaningful amount to me, but easy enough to recover via my primary trading, NATGAS). Seeing those zones described as you have really solidifies my understanding and will stick deep with me henceforth. *Very* much appreciated. Faggot.

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>>56490160
Sounds comfy.

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>>56489495
Thanks but I don't particularly like that kind of music. If there were no vocals, I could be into it (I'm a fan of Post Rock).

>> No.56490419
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>>56490390
technically its like a vacation, but since i'm short on cash this month i can't really say i'm relaxing as much as i'd like to

>> No.56490449
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>>56490414

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>>56490449
Explosions in the Sky is a pretty popular Post Rock band. I saw them live once, they're really good.
https://youtu.be/DNMhiMtNq2g
They're music has been in a few TV commercials, so they're a business and finance related band. Most recent was Pacifico beer (I prefer Rainier though).
https://youtu.be/zYntNLgNWCI

>> No.56490489
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56490489

green light boys lets goooooo

>> No.56490524

>>56490489
What a fucking joke. We're an occupied country.

>> No.56490544

>>56490524
No, you're thinking of Palestine.

>> No.56490551

>>56490489
United States going to be in the biggest of wrongs on this one. Literally trying to cause WW3 and it’s so fucking obvious.

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>>56490489
>>56490524
>>56490544
Who fucking cares? The real war will be against Iran anyway and then that's when all hell will break out. Everything is so fake and gay. AI is making it worse, not even cooler.

>> No.56490559

>>56490553
Well duh. Israel rolling into Gaza is like Austro-Hungary rolling into Serbia, the pebble that starts an avalanche.

At least so the Happening theory goes.

>> No.56490560

>>56490544
No, I'm thinking of Washington DC because our politicians don't want to get JFK'ed by Israel (again) for not sacrificing enough dollars and American lives for Israeli interests. They just gave Israel free license to start WW3, and we're on the hook to clean up the mess for our masters.

>> No.56490568

>>56490485
Man, that's breddy excellent. I made music with a *very* similar vibe back in the 90s and did some shows. It was a blend of maybe classical, "world", and rock, plus nature like whale song (in fact I always had a segment in the shows where I mimicked whale song with my guitar played with a slide and through a processor). I am going to let this sucker (the first link, already over 10 min in on it) play for a while, thanks for the blessing PA.

>> No.56490570

>>56490560
It's just a joke, man. But as far as
>we're on the hook to clean up the mess for our masters.
everyone on /smg/ is well past draft age and will make far more off the war than they'll have to pay in taxes or inflation.

Plus, imagine all the single zoomettes.

>> No.56490581

>>56490570
It’s actually generation alpha now.

>> No.56490583

>>56490570
You're assuming we win. This has been planned for years, and we're walking into a trap. It all started with China releasing covid.

>> No.56490594
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56490594

Ah. Now I see why the old crones want young men to die.

>> No.56490598

Gold hoarding?

>> No.56490600

>>56490594
No pussy, no war.

>>56490598
You can't eat gold.

>> No.56490603

>>56490489
Kek media still pretending it isn't the other way around with orders

>> No.56490604
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56490604

Fish don't fry in the kitchen
Beans don't burn on the grill
Took a whole lotta tryin'
Just to get up that hill

Now we're up in the big leagues
Gettin' our turn at bat
As long as we live
It's you and me, baby
There ain't nothin' wrong with that

Well we're movin' on up

>> No.56490607

>>56490600
Vice versa, no pussy means men want war. Because there’s no pussy.

>> No.56490608

>>56490598
NATGAS hoarding.

>> No.56490617

>>56490607
Why would a bunch of disenfranchised men who hate the system give their lives to protect the system?

>> No.56490619

>>56490594
>the mineshaft gap

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>>56490568
You're welcome. Some other good bands are (in no particular order): Russian Circles, The End of the Ocean (saw them live, cute keyboardist), Pelican, Signal Hill, The Six Parts Seven, Maserati, Saxon Shore, God is an Astronaut, Mogwai, Moonlit Sailor, Red Sparowes, If These Trees Could Talk. You could also maybe consider Buckethead to be Post Rock too (saw him live once too, that was weird). El Ten Eleven is also kinda (I also saw them live too, and one of their songs was also in a TV ad, but I forget which one...).

>> No.56490647

>>56490489
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqQuihD0hoI

>> No.56490654

>>56490637
Bucket is the only one of those I've ever heard of. I used to have hundreds of his albums and can definitely see what you mean by his inclusion.

>> No.56490714

>>56490594
Wouldn't most of that be indians, africans, and chinese? Why aren't these countries fighting then?

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>>56490594
If the stock market would look 10 years into the future, they would sell everything

>> No.56490726

>>56490594
they'll only send whites to the battlefields.
they haven't imported millions of young black males into europe for nothing...
they want their khalegri-brown underclass

>> No.56490740

>>56490715
We really are screwed by governments deficit spending.

>> No.56490764

>>56490594
>>56490714
That imbalance is entirely the one-child policy in China. And they're not exactly staging divisions of Changs outside Damascus.

>> No.56490784

>>56490715
There is an obvious solution, mandatory GILF wives

>> No.56490793

Why the fuck did I deleverage my shorts goddamn. And yesterday I even started longing as a fullyear permabobo. And almost got fucked because of those scampumps to dumps. Can't we fuckin crab for maxscalp? And it's always those out of the nothing dumps. I ruined my shorts because I'm already now thinking of october CPI which will probably be soft and cause a repumping and lose out on those fuckin shortgains, goddamn.

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>>56490784
Imagine the chocolate chip cookies, and gumjobs

>> No.56490821

>>56490793
We're going back up next week. Like bond yields will retreat and the market will rise. Gold will get cheaper, oil will be cheaper so more economic growth in manufacturing will be there. And the price of sugar will be down because all the Halloween futures will be spoken for. It's like deleveraging and admitting you were wrong is okay. I mean I was wrong all year too but at least I changed what I was doing.

>> No.56490827

>>56490821
For once, I agree. Broken clock is right twice a day

>> No.56490855

NEW
>>56490850
>>56490850
>>56490850

>> No.56490872

>>56490821
Yes yes, I also always think that and then we dump further and further. And it actually surprises me as a bobo, cause the economic data is ok. So this market is legit retarded. Either it is overreacting now or it was completely overblown weeks ago. It's absolutely irrational either way.

I will short again, that is sure. Same leverage but less positions as to not risk getting margin called again (I almost was end of July). Still it is annoying that I could have made more money if I just didn't do anything.

Still I expect the real "crash" (SPX maybe 3500-3800 and DAX 12,5-13k) later, in december/january or even later in April. And something like a bottom in Q3-Q4 2024.

I made more profit yesterday longing then shorting kek. I always miss out on heavy drops and make the most money on FLAT days when we zigzag, expect yesterday as I didn't trade during EU session.

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JROMEY is going to put the spank on that shit. He's not going to make sure the downward momentum remains so that the irrational exuberance gets put back into its proper place.