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Classy Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

Previous: >>56468332

>> No.56469858

Why did Biden have to crash the market?

>> No.56469863
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56469863

This is it. This is the big one

>> No.56469864
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Not selling. Buying more, even. Lmao.

>> No.56469869
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>>56469858
Save this question for when SPY is back under 3900 Jack

>> No.56469872
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56469872

So, other anon was gonna explain >>56469823

>> No.56469873
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56469873

Why are futures shitting the bed?

>> No.56469878

bros pls live in the metaverse pls bros in these trying times just try the metaverse bros to save this market for everyone pls bros

>> No.56469881
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I haven't been drunk in a week. Should I drink?

>> No.56469896

>>56469878
I would Zuck, but this occulus says it needs to rectally verify my identity and make a facebook account

>> No.56469899

>>56469873
The poetic words
>GRAB YOUR FUCKING CHAIN AND DRAG YOU THROUGH THE BIKE LANE WHILE EVERYBODY'S LIKE NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
come to mind.

>> No.56469905

>>56469873
it's over, we've broken through the put wall and now we enter the actual capitulation phase

>> No.56469906
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>>56469881
No, we need you fully sober in the morning so you can fully appreciate the carnage and devastion coming to your portfolio

>> No.56469911

>>56469881
Are you a mumu?
If so, you should be drinking every night.

>> No.56469917
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56469917

SPY is going to nosedive tomorrow. Insider here.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=xTHwwFjkzBk&si=C7e8xxSJbpTZn7zW

>> No.56469918

Almighty father, God please save my Meta calls, please Jesus save my calls if it keeps going lower my wife is going to kill me
Please I'm praying God, how did this even happen

>> No.56469924
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>>56469911
>>56469906
Idk what animal spirit i am, crab? kangaroo?
I am comfy either way, might as well drink something.

>> No.56469933
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>>56469905
Everyone knew this was coming, but a certain group makes it so fucking hard to time it and not get green dildo mega ass raped. I'm it so good at dodging the sudden mumu rape candles

>> No.56469937

>>56469918
gambling is a sin anon and god sent me here to tell you that your wife is fucking your neighbor.

>> No.56469943

Yields haven't even uninverted yet. This is still bear pre-cum.

>> No.56469949
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QQQ has broken under 350 as I said it would. We are now going into conditions where a recession is inevitable. This is now pre-recession movement. This sort of movement doesn't just end randomly. It plays itself out unless it was massively intervened on. So the reality is the country is now in a recession scenario and that is an inescapable fact. What matters now is how severe it will be.

The Biden administration has mostly relied on propaganda and wordplay rather than any actual constructive action to address ongoing issues, so the most likely outcome here is that they will continue to attempt this. Gauging the actual severity of the recession will be difficult, but it should play out with the administration denying it's happening right up until they can no longer deny it.

At that point, they will warm everyone up to it and you'll hear things like "well maybe it's a recession...well maybe...well maybe...well here's why it's actually not a recession...well here's why it's a recession, but it's actually a good recession, a Bidencession." and so on. Once it becomes undeniable, everything is going into freefall. By this time this is all said and done, I think you're going to see QQQ at 290 conservatively, but it could very well lose 50% from where it is currently because of this administration's tendencies to hide shit under the carpet until the whole house is pouring shit out the windows.

The worst case situation here which is still not off the table in terms of its probability is really damn bad. We're talking a decline that takes 5 years to even get us back to a point most people would consider stagnation.

>> No.56469954

>>56469924
You should create something unique and call it kangaroo spread. Maybe a double diagonal but with butterflies or something like that would work. Then you gonna be famous and sheet

>> No.56469957
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>futes

>> No.56469960

>>56469917
Nigger

>> No.56469966
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>>56469843
Gentlemen. A toast! To the stock market!

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>>56469966

>> No.56469972
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>>56469966
How bout an
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

>> No.56469977
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>>56469917
Insider? you mean you can look at futures? lmao

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>>56469917

>> No.56469979
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>>56469954
maybe a turtle because it is a protective put / hedge or a hedgehog because i just hedge anytime rsi is over 70

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>>56469966
Thanks Bobo. I was a giant pussy and sold all my SOXL when it first hit $19, but now I finally have an excuse to start slowly building a stack again. Hopefully you drop it to 7 bucks in 2 months so I can really start stacking again.

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>>56469966

>> No.56470007

Imagine buying stocks during the worst bond market in 50 years lmao you have to be a literal brain dead retard

>> No.56470018

>>56470007
what do you buy then? bonds? genuinely curious, gold?

>> No.56470019
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>>56470007
Imagine not being up ~50% YTD because you didn't buy stocks. You have to be a literal brain dead retard.

>> No.56470024

>>56470019
Enjoy this next part. You deserve it. :^)

>> No.56470025
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56470025

>>56470007
But braindead retards don't even know how to buy stocks or even what they are

>> No.56470031

>>56469881
no. quit forever. it's shit, for college kids.

>> No.56470034

uh metamates??

>> No.56470040
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>>56470024
Yeah the next part is I'm up 100% at the end of 2024.

>> No.56470047

>>56469949
Don't you doomer /pol/faggots ever get tired of being wrong?
>unemployment still record low
>inflation easing
>likely no more rate hikes this year
>ad revenues still up
>consumer spending still strong
>earnings generally good
>bank stability taken care of by fed
>no crash
>nice soft landing
>drumpf lost
>you will keep posting nonsense as you miss out on the bullrun and stay poor

>> No.56470055

>>56470018
you should be acquiring $$$ reserves so that when the crash happens you can then buy real, money generating assets at low prices
eg. saving up money so that you can buy rental properties on the low, saving up money so you can buy a liquor store, saving up money so that you can buy very good companies stocks at very low prices
the way that most people have been doing it is rolling 4 week t-bills
however even this is now too risky, where the bond market may default on these 4 week t-bills
probably the only asset that is worth investing in right now is gold, literally, otherwise to just be stockpiling money to prepare for the crash

>> No.56470056

>>56470018
you buy gold if you know what's coming. braindead yield chasers are going to hoover up those 5% notes and then suffer through ungodly inflation for at least 5 more years while the fed and treasury desperately tries to unfuck the US budget.

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>>56470047
This.

>> No.56470062

>>56470040
>>56470047
Oh my god I can't wait to read wsb after this lmao.

>> No.56470064

>>56469873
Why would they not?
Why has it taken so long?
These are the real questions.

>> No.56470072

>>56470047
being wrong for a few years is worth being right for the next century

>> No.56470075

>>56469881
Fuckin gross, stop posting pics of dudes you fuckin fags.

>> No.56470078

>>56470047
>miss out on the bullrun
>-10% in 3 months
>0% in 6 months
>+3% in 12 months

>> No.56470084
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>>56470047
priced in.

>> No.56470085

>>56470075
he wears a nice top. appreciate the little things.

>> No.56470087

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>> No.56470088
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>>56470047
>inflation easing

>> No.56470089
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>>56470055
>>56470056
I have about $250K $30K of which is cash, the other is in equities with a hedge strat that I posted above. What do your crystal balls say a rental property or liquor store will cost in the great heeming?
I already have a mortgage at 3% pretty stable high paying job.

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>>56470078

>> No.56470092
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>>56470047
Your probably too scared to even open your portfolio today. How much money have you lost this week? Kek

>> No.56470093

>>56469999
>Quads of greed
I kneel pharaoh

>> No.56470096
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>>56469873
>futures

>> No.56470097

fucking hell I'm down 30k the past month from AGNC

>> No.56470103

>>56470047
when the narrative gets bullish is the time to get out, not when people predict that the end is near.

>> No.56470109

I sold... get ready for a green dildo to the moon

>> No.56470111

>>56470084
>>56470078
>>56470072
>>56470062
>>56470088
i'm really starting to think all these doomers are just memestock baggies trolling in here since their stocks are dead, or wagies bootyblasted they will never own a home and a crash is their only hope.

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>>56470111
Trips of truth.

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>>56470109
>>56470111
are you just ignoring reality? are you a troon wtf is this delusion

>> No.56470127

>>56470111
Your world is crashing down around you, retard. Say it with me:
President.
Donald.
Trump.

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>>56470111
Think what you want mumu. The clock is ticking. Nice trips by the way.

>> No.56470142

>>56470127
I'm rooting for the indian guy, imagine the redeeming

>> No.56470148

>>56470111
MADAME LAGARDE, SAVE MOI. PÜMP IT

>> No.56470154
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Leveraged rotation strategy bros do the right thing. Don't listen to the naysayers telling you to abandon the strategy. The naysayers are wrong. When the market opens tomorrow you need to follow your training and sell. If you don't, even if you skate by this time and the market goes back up, the time will come when you regret making an emotional decisions. Don't let it be this time

>> No.56470155

>>56470047
>>56470111
Keep it up anon FUCK BEARS

Dumb motherfuckers have absolutely zero fucking reason to be selling companies that are objectively doing fine in an economy that is objectively doing fine

>> No.56470163

>>56470089
Hey man, you shouldn't post that Apu. You wouldn't want anyone else here to confuse you with Poem Anon... would you?

>> No.56470165
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Threadly reminder that dividends are irrelevant. If you want a bit of cash from your stocks, you can sell some.

>> No.56470175

>>56470154
I'm considering selling some at a loss so I can reduce my taxes but otherwise I think this red is fake and gay and selling would be dumb here

>> No.56470182

This is the bottom. Checked

>> No.56470183

>>56470163
poem anon must live in Washington then because I love this apu and I am a fellow washington anon

>> No.56470185
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>checks NATGAS positions before AH close
>lookin' fuckin' good
>UNG will keep playing non stop for 2 more days
Feels good to be a BOIL BARON

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It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX_k5_egUAo

>> No.56470193

>>56470183
Yes, Poem Anon does live in Washington, for now

>> No.56470197

>>56470155
most of the retards weren't holding anything of value to begin with, just whatever garbage stocks wsb pumped during the gme days. Now they sit around here and on /pol/ and actually believe the economy is crashing because they live in an online far right echo chamber. They likely waste what little income they have from their mcjob on shitcoins or puts that end up expiring worthless. I mean look at >>56470127. These people will sadly never learn and won't make any money this bullrun, but at least I tried.

>> No.56470204

my calls are fucked

>> No.56470205
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>>56470089
Does your strategy cover a 40-50% dump in the S&P? If you sold everything and bought only puts you would be retired in a few months.

>> No.56470210

>>56470197
I dunno about any of that but I know that the portion I DCA into bonds has been performing better than the portion I DCA into SPY, for as long as I've been doing it

>> No.56470214

>>56470111
you can explain it to yourself however you want, but it's not going to make your food, rent and fuel cheaper
the rate of change in these monthly massive increases in the general price level is a little bit smaller every time -- right up until the US hits its fiscal wall
QE will return

>> No.56470220

I kind of want to take the 65 exam so I can buy bank stuff from the FDIC. Is this a good idea?

>> No.56470225
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>>56470197
Everywhere else but here is a far left echo chamber. Litterally pick any other place to shitpost with your own msm propaganda filled NPC tranny kind that lack free agency and quit shitting up our only tiny little place where we can pretend to be free

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>>56469966
The only toast I want is the toaster in my bathtub.
Down 25K in 2 weeks. Fund doesn't seem to know what a short even is.

Is it over? I think it's over but I hope I'm as stupid as this board automatically thinks I am.

>> No.56470231

>>56469873
> tfw sold the top in late July to buy a home
I could not convey in words how comfy I am right now frfr.

>> No.56470238
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>>56470197
pure cope

>> No.56470240

DON'T YOU DARE QUESTION THE RATIONALITY OF THE MARKET

THE MARKET IS ALWAYS RIGHT

>> No.56470244

I almost feel sorry for bulltrannies. Almost.

>> No.56470246

>>56470088
Inflation is easing. I'm a bear and even I can see that.

>> No.56470250

>>56470214
My food is significantly cheaper than this time last year, to the point that I can't help but laugh every time I see someone say this. Sorry your grocery stores still feel like fleecing you, I guess? Lmao. My rent has been the same for 4 years. My gas is unironically cheaper this month than last month. Eat shit, go outside.

>> No.56470251

>>56470246
Real-world price increases sure aren't lmao.

>> No.56470259

>>56470250
What fucking planet are you living on? Price increases are the worst they've ever been.

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I feel a great distance in the force, as if millions of
NO NATGAS NIGGERS
suddenly cried out in pain

>> No.56470269

>>56470205
if it doesn't dump then I would be fucked.
>>56470193
cool, but hey I just wanted to let you know that I will post whatever apu I feel like faggot. :)

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>>56470246
>I'm on the ground with their boot still smashing my neck, but a couple molecules of oxygen can now squeak through my airways, let's celebrate how good we have it bros its easing up acting spek

>> No.56470276

WTFWT BULLBROS WE'RE SAVED

>> No.56470282

>>56470259
Stop going to Wegmans.

>> No.56470284

>Priced in
>forward looking

>> No.56470288
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>>56470250
total delusion

>> No.56470289

>>56470109
>wagies bootyblasted they will never own a home

I make 120K (the new 85K) and I'm priced out. But you're correcr, I'm technically a wagie (aka most people) and a home is impossible to achieve.

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BOBO literally BTFO eternally and for all time

>> No.56470301

>>56470288
I love that incel prisoner drawing

>> No.56470303

>>56470293
Oh man it's going all the way up to 421.

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>>56470293
the economy is saved

>> No.56470309

>>56470293
lmao

>>56470282
What the fuck is a "Wegmans"? Wait a second, I think you need to denounce the Talmud, my longnosed friend.

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>>56470293

>> No.56470314

>>56470282
But weggies is so good, Anon. I used to go there for their cheeses and Aldi for the rest of my things. That is, before I left the hellscape that is NY State and live in a national forest now :3

>> No.56470318

>>56469863
>>56469864
tell me what to invest in rn pls i love you

>> No.56470321

>>56470314
I just got a bag of cheese curds at Aldi for like $1-$3 (I can't remember which.)

>> No.56470328

>>56470314
So how long you been inawood's?

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>>56470047
And yet QQQ has dropped under 350.

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>>56470246
lmao yes i don't doubt that every month, the general price level will increase, but do it a tiny slice less than the previous month
guess how long that'll last though

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>>56470318
Pogs

>> No.56470363

>>56470337
Some things have gotten cheaper. Deflation is coming.
That's the real bear thesis.

>> No.56470366

>>56470331
zoom out
>>56470337
>the debt totally matters guys!

>> No.56470367

>>56470007
Protip: part of why bond yields are so high is that tech stocks' outlook is SO bullish that yields need to be much higher to catch up. Why would you buy a 10yr bond for 5% when Nvidia will probably average like 20% and is basically risk free?

>> No.56470370

>>56470366
lol retard

>> No.56470376

>>56470367
I highly doubt people participating in the bond market are that retarded.

>> No.56470378

>>56470007
you're right, incel. stay out and buy boomer rocks

>> No.56470380

>>56470363
i didn't say i was a bear, that's being projected on me. i said buy gold because it outperforms bonds when this happens.
>>56470366
lmao ok cornpop

>> No.56470386

>>56470376
They are because they don't understand AI.

>> No.56470397

>>56470328
Since August. I'm in a town of 1000 people but I'm not here for the people, I'm here for the 5 national parks within driving distance. We just have 1 local grocer who sells freshly slaughtered Bison meat (just finished eating Bison spaghetti). So in a way every place has its own uniqueness to it. But I miss the comforts of NY. It feels like I'm living in Silent Hill or some 90s Capcom game.

>> No.56470398

MUMUS ABSOLUTELY SEETHING ITT

>> No.56470401

>>56470386
>Bears are retarded because they don't understand the internet
>t. you in March 2000

>> No.56470406

>>56469917
Fuck

>> No.56470419

>>56470401
They were actually, look at how big tech has performed since then. Besides, we're about to enter a FALLING rate environment after big tech has survived and thrived during an extremely aggressive hiking cycle. Big tech really is just THAT good and should be treated as risk free. We also have the strongest economy in recent history with extremely low unemployment etc. there's just no narrative to justify bearishness. People should be 100% allocated to big tech right now.

>> No.56470429

>>56470397
I might have lived in that same town many years ago.

>> No.56470432

>>56470419
>we're about to enter a FALLING rate environment
Talk about delusional.

>> No.56470450

>>56470314
Guide me on how to do this. I wanna make it before its too late

Do you at least have a job?

>> No.56470458

>>56470226
We're still in the 1st leg down over an 8-12 month correction. Buckle up.

>> No.56470463

>>56470419
Take a step back and read what you just wrote, then seek medication

>> No.56470467
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56470467

Bro just don't wake up tomorrow lmao, as long as you don't look at the number you ain't losing or making anything

>> No.56470483

>>56470259
What the fuck are you spending money on? Seriously I'm curious

>>56470419
Keep up the good fight anon

>> No.56470488
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56470488

>>56470419
>look at how big tech performed since exactly year 2000
oh yeah? funny you should say that
https://www.investing.com/analysis/why-gold-has-outperformed-the-sp-500-over-the-past-20-years-200589411
>It was February 2000 and I walked into a coin show and bought a one ounce American Gold Eagle coin for only $295.
>That same gold coin now would set you back $1780.
$1983 now

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56470491

>>56470419
MOM'S FELLATE & BAIT
formerly SNEEDS

>> No.56470496
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56470496

>>56469872
Ok. the graph is for option dealer gamma and vol control funds / algos. 80-90% of trading done nowadays is basically robots trading and hedging based on rules they made for themselves

much of the intraday market index moves is just option dealers hedging their exposure and volatility control funds increasing/reducing exposure. option dealers are basically the tail wagging the dog at this point because options have become so popular

there are 2 gamma zones for option dealers: positive gamma and negative gamma. which zone they are currently in will determine their hedging / buying / selling behavior:
positive gamma zone = buy the dip, sell the rip. this leads to lower volatility and "return to the mean" effect
negative gamma zone = buy the rip, sell the dip. this leads to higher volatility and a pile-on effect

on the chart you will see the SPX Flip Line - this is the line that separates positive vs negative gamma zones. right now, we are below the flip line, putting us in a negative gamma zone. this means that intra-day, if the SPX is +up on the day, option dealers will likely push it higher (buy the rip), and if SPX is down on the day, they will push it lower (sell the rip). the inverse is true for positive gamma zone

1/? i have to take a shit so i'll continue when i'm done

>> No.56470497
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56470497

>>56470401
Reminds me

>> No.56470500

>>56470488
>the S&P
I'm not telling you to buy the index, but to buy Apple, Meta, Google, Amazon, Nvidia, Tesla, Microsoft, and ONLY those. Those are the AI names.

>> No.56470505
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56470505

>>56470467
The observer effect fucks with the market and we don't talk about it enough.

>> No.56470513

I feel like it was fall/winter just about this time every other article was about "recession fears"
I hate financial media so much

>> No.56470524

>>56470226
>Is it over?
Hasn't even begun until it's headline news being ran 24/7 as if it were Jews or Trump. Check back next year. I'd expect the Fed to lower rates so that the housing market can still function (it's fucking dead now) over the next six months and things to crab, but companies are going to continue to miss or 'readjust' their targets. I work in the tech sector and people are being let go left and right because it's cheaper to fire people than it is to sign new mortgage leases.

>> No.56470525
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56470525

See you at 30k

>> No.56470551
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56470551

>>56470513
Every mothgerfucking year.

>> No.56470565
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56470565

Well... after the bloodbath that was today... I think I'm going to make some hot chocolate and relax the rest of the evening.
Hopefully it doesn't give me the shit squirts again

>> No.56470567

>>56470513
my favorite season, something in my dna just loves prepping for winter and thinking about all the dead people who got too cold or ran out of food. freezing catharsis

>> No.56470580
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56470580

Anyway, the spooky line is doing stuff again.

>> No.56470599

>>56470580
Going back to normal, I bet they lower rates the second it crosses.

>> No.56470600

>>56470450
Sorry Anon I only have 100K saved and I'm still stacking but I just tether from my cell phone and "work" online. No reason to wait to build the life you need. Without nature I go insane(er).

>> No.56470623

>>56470491
>advertising softshell crabs on a permanent sign like that
Aren’t shoftshell crabs seasonal?

>> No.56470634

Your shit is gone, mumu. You came out, and your shit is gone.

>> No.56470644

Times like this, I'm glad my largest exposure is to Australian coal miners.

>> No.56470645

>>56470600
Honestly thinking about doing this, live a couple of miles from a national park, and need to sell my home. Problem is I need it to be empty for photos and open houses etc. Sucks that the weather is about to turn to shit, should have done it over the summer.

>> No.56470651
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56470651

active shooter in Maine rn, 20 confirmed kills so far.

how this affect the market tomorrow?

>> No.56470655

>>56470644
I'm glad i'm 80% in CASH.TO while i figure out what the fuck's gonna happen

>> No.56470657
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56470657

>>56469869
You mean under 200.

>> No.56470663

>>56470496
Interesting

>> No.56470668

>>56470651
priced in

>> No.56470680

>>56470651
Don't an average of 10 people or so get shot in Chicago every weekend?

>> No.56470681

>>56470651
>20
Hot damn Mainers don't fuck around. I went there last year, nice place.

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56470691

>>56470651
Goddamn retards always with the soft targets hitting nobodies.

>> No.56470694

Dividend investing general /dig/
>>56457577
>>56457577

>> No.56470699

Don't panic sell. It's closing green tomorrow.

>> No.56470702

>>56470694
>picking up pennies in front of a steamroller

>> No.56470703

>>56470691
why would glowies groom shooters to attack them?

>> No.56470704
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56470704

>>56470680
Yeah but that's an average from like hundreds of youf shooters.

>> No.56470706

>>56470699
Yeah no shit but will it be green enough to make up for today?!

>> No.56470708

>>56470706
Fuck me I hope so.

>> No.56470711

>>56470165
Based. Fuck divvy "chads" and their obsolete, tax-event-generating asses.

>> No.56470715

>>56470704
So the complaint is less that people are being shot and more that someone is actually a good aim.

>> No.56470724

>>56470496
if you are someone who trades intraday, you may have noticed that from late March '23 - July '23, we were basically in a bull market on the SPX. that entire time, option dealers were in POSITIVE gamma zone

during this time, there were plenty of days where negative economic data would be released, and the SPX would INITIALLY sell off hard (like -1%), only to be bought back up intraday and finish close to flat or down just like -.20%. this is because of the positive gamma zone for option dealers: buy the dip, sell the rip. so that dip was bought up, even in the face of bad economic news

this movement had bobo anons saying
>wTf iS tHis BulLShiT!! the news was terrible!!

well now you know. positive gamma = buy the dip. this negative gamma zone is having the inverse effect on the mumu's now
>THE EARNINGS WEREN'T BAD AT ALL WHY IS IT TANKING?!
because it's sell the dip time

and we will CONTINUE this effect until we go above the SPX Flip Line into positive gamma ~4364. this market is not only based on fundamentals - they matter, but there is a big force called "Flows." Flows is the money being moved by option dealer hedging and volatility control funds / algos that have to either buy or sell. in general, lower vol = buy; higher vol = sell

2/?
and i'm not gona type all this shit out if i dont get some goddamn (you)'s. these funds i'm talking about are like 90% of all trading so you want to know this

>> No.56470725

>>56470699
New shill cope just dropped.

>> No.56470729

>>56470703
I feel like if this critism is made often and loud enough people prone to doing this sort of thing might get embarrassed for having at least seen someone make this complaint before.

>> No.56470731

>>56470220
You're looking at pretty slim pickings: https://www.fdic.gov/resources/resolutions/bank-failures/failed-bank-list/

Why not just gamble on BNKD, KRE puts, and shorting weak bank like the rest of us?

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>>56470715
Well, I mean, I don't hope anyone gets shot, but stats are stats.

>> No.56470733

>>56470699
nikka Nasdaq is down -1% just AH

>> No.56470737

>>56470702
If you think a downturn is coming then dividends aren’t a bad option.

>> No.56470739

>>56470708
I need TQQQ to hit 39 by Friday or else I'm losing half my fun account

>> No.56470747

>>56470496
>>56470724
Please continue to educate the retarded shills ITT.

>> No.56470749

>>56470165
This dude got BTFO in /dig/
https://www.bhagwad.com/blog/2023/personal/financial-matters/dividends-are-not-irrelevant-when-a-stock-becomes-an-nft.html/

>> No.56470751

>>56470724
Okay but why would the gamma change in the first place? I'm still not seeing how this isn't a self fulfilling finance fag thing

>> No.56470752

>>56470724
But investopedia told me (((options don't affect market prices)))!

>> No.56470753

>>56470731
I'm already doing that but buying bad debt seems sort of like going to one of those storage unit auctions. It sounds exiting.

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56470758

>>56470739
I need 37. And QQQ to hit 360. I trust my strat. But I am now getting worried. It took me a couple weeks to rack up 4 figures in options.
Lmfao

>> No.56470759

BUDDY, LOOK AT YEN COMPUTER
>150.1970
what happens??
either Japan sells US bonds to bid yen
OR
Japan lifts YCC, killing carry trade, killing cheap interest rates for global investment
either = IT'S OVER

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56470760

>>56470752
Turns out derivatives aren't derivative. D E V I L I S H

>> No.56470763

I mean, it was over. But was it ever this much over?

>>56470711
ALL DIVVIE FAGS ARE IN THE RED

>> No.56470764
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56470764

>>56470704
Fucking Sailer's law.

>> No.56470766

>>56470711
It's only good when your goal is income generation, and you need 1MM to do that.

>> No.56470768

>>56470752
Obviously at the very least if put options are cheap then you can take less risk going long and vice versa for short so you'd be more likely to do it.

>> No.56470770

>>56470759
I told anons last week to buy USDJPY. Was one of the easiest trades in years. Of course it got 2 replies.

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56470772

>>56470496
>hedgeye

>> No.56470774
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56470774

>>56469999
Look at those quads

>> No.56470780

>>56470770
Forex trading is an extreme niche. Even among hedgefunds it's niche.

>> No.56470786
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56470786

>>56470047
Yessir, its the kind of tired that sleep doesn't fix.

>> No.56470787

>>56470753
Sure, but do you really want to spend a few years keeping crackheads from breaking into your "pennies on the dollar" office building?

>> No.56470788
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>>56470749
>Reading an article written by a dude named Bagwhag

Dropped

>> No.56470789

>>56470725
Love this one.

>> No.56470791

>>56470787
desu I'd be the crackhead who's broken into it and no one could stop me.

>> No.56470794
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56470794

>>56470759
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dx6erm_ctU

>> No.56470795
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>>56470175

>> No.56470801
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>>56470768
that's good to know
I don't trade much, mostly buy and hold, but I should probably pay more attention to options pricing, at least to get a better idea of how things are evolving

>> No.56470806
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56470806

>>56470791
Well alright then, anon, sounds like you've got a decent goal and plenty of reason to pursue it. Keep us posted.

>> No.56470840

>>56470363
coming? we've been fighting it for 20 years, the fight is done, xoomers didn't have enough kids, boomers are retiring broke, every week I hear of another boomer who's been coasting on the good graces of landlords not survive another rent hike.
rents are over double what they were 10 years ago. if you go by pure inflation metrics they should only be up 34% but there are no more cost cuttings. No more overstocked inventories sold at a loss just to move product out of warehouses.

>> No.56470848

>>56470724
How does one monitor this "gamma" thing.

>> No.56470851
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56470851

>>56470497
I wonder if Mav is gonna get his top God speed whatever spic thing you are mav.

>> No.56470858

>>56470752
>But investopedia told me (((options don't affect market prices)))!
go look up gamma squeeze and you will understand why options can and do affect market prices - if there are enough of them

>>56470751
>Okay but why would the gamma change in the first place?
it has to do with options. options are now affecting the market in a significant way - the tail wagging the dog, so to speak. options are levered 100x1 vs shares of stock, so if you have 10,000,000 traders now all trading 0dte SPY options, plus the effect of all the hedge funds / institutions trading them + SPX index options ... that's going to have an affect on on the direction of the SP500.

if that doesn't make sense to you, then you need to go read about delta-gamma hedging that option s dealers have to do in order to make the market, but remain market neutral at the same time through hedging

how they are hedging matters more now than it did in the past because options were not that popular in the past, now the popularity has exploded and they have an affect on the daily moves of the SP500

>> No.56470863

>>56470751
I'm guessing it probably shifts according to the (((holidays))).

>> No.56470870

>>56470766
So dividend stocks should only be considered near the end of your investing cycle when you're an old fart?
ARCC for example yields 10% divvie, i get paying taxes now isn't great and it's price stays pretty flat so inflation is eating into it but that still seems pretty good cooking most stocks don't move like nvda?

>> No.56470876
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56470876

>>56470724
Ok, carry on anon

>> No.56470890

>>56470870
Anything above ~4% sounds like some kind of fucked up ETF that just explodes one day.

>> No.56470902

>>56470752
>>56470651
why the bowling alley?
literally one of the comfiest places on earth

>> No.56470904
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56470904

>>56470651
>how this affect the market tomorrow?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_aQYP8rsgE

Probably bullish POWW, SWBI, VSTO. If they're illegals or refugees, GEO and CXW. If there's a cop angle, AXON and DGLY.

>> No.56470907

>>56470848
i pay for it, but i post it here whenever i can so anons can get it for free. i'm not trying to sell you anything. i genuinely want /smg/ to level up

>> No.56470913

>>56470724
(you)

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56470919

>>56470496
>>56470724
>>56470858
>>56470907
holy crackers! an anon thats smart AND is willing to help others!! tysm gammanon! i still don't know what to do with this information, my 0DTE options are screwing me over

>> No.56470923

>>56470668
>>56470680
>>56470681
>>56470691
>>56470904
UPDATE
22 dead
60 injured
shooter is still not in custody
last attack at Wal-Mart Distribution center, unknown victim count

short WMT?

>> No.56470928
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56470928

I reckon it will be a 6400 by the time the Melbourne Cup rate rise is announced

>> No.56470938

>>56470923
Could be a ragie wagie going after company bowling night. Though apparently the town's recently been flooded with Muslim refugees, so could be an Allah Ackbar or a White dude who had enough.

>> No.56470939

>>56470907
What is the gamma data called, is there one particular figure that one would watch? Does the VIX serve as any sort of decent proxy or pointer on it? Does "level II" shit play any part in it? Also, I already have the term "gamma squeeze" bookmarked as a Bing search, are there any others that are crucial to this?

>> No.56470948

>>56470938
Good for him, the country would probably be better if this happened a bit more often.

>> No.56470949

I am buying oil because of all these bullish equity acquisitions being made which means both the companies believe they are well positioned for the future and seek to avoid the tax events on acqusition.

>> No.56470957

>>56470919
it probably is just CRBP pajeet jacking off to himself

>> No.56470967
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56470967

Check out my Halloween Pepe

>> No.56470968

My money is with companies that I don't trust at all and are complete dogshit ethically as well as socially. Financially they are also pretty fucked up and it is essentially nothing more than a gamble. They don't pay dividends and even if they would, they'd still suck ass as dividends should be paid to the workers. We are not the same.

>> No.56470970
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56470970

>>56470759
The anons here don’t comprehend it. The Japanese dumping bonds could literally uninvert the yield curve when the 10 year skyrockets, kicking off a Black Thursday. I bet money that the Fed and Treasury are working with the BoJ tonight trying to work out another solution. The market can tell something is up though, hence why futures are bad

>> No.56470985
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56470985

8 weeks of red on S&P futures, worse than any red streak in 2022, and all because of.......????

>> No.56470987

>>56470651
>>56470923
Holy shit is that Sam Hyde? Bullish

>> No.56470988

What about soxl you crazy apes?

>> No.56470993

>>56470949
CVX not only acquired Hess but they IMMEDIATELY announced significantly increased dividends and share buybacks starting in January. Clearly they think the acquisition will pay off, and soon. And with XOM also buying Pioneer it seems like oil majors are generally convinced oil is going to the moon by 2025.

They've been wrong before but it's a good sign for oil investors.

>> No.56470996

>>56470970

Lagarde will pump the markets. She will sound so happy and relieved because of 4,6% inflation in EU. DAX 15000 and US will follow (unironically)

>> No.56470999
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56470999

>>56470919
gammas hard to play but I think he's helped. In normal times the contrarian drip is best but when the neg times hit just goon it up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haBKYluPulc
basically the wheels on the car can stabalize until the friction breaks, and instead of counter steering and accellerating to correct you have to steer into the direction of travel and brake to maintain control.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0oll_EiJZs

>> No.56471008

>>56470988
Some anons are saying sell because SOXX broke below the 200 dma but I'm skeptical this red will hold. I know bears will screech but there's absolutely no reason for us to be selling off like last year. Last year was already flimsy but at least there was actual data coming out about rate hikes and inflation. Now it's just nothingburger after nothingburger.

>> No.56471014

>>56470985
July 2023 was confirmation that the decade long bull run couldnt make a higher high. Now we dump.

>> No.56471021

>>56469843
>johnny walker blue label
Very nice choice

>> No.56471023

>>56471014
Okay but....the news on August 1st was a bullshit credit rating downgrade. That's a completely nonsensical reason for a "decade long bull run" to end.

>> No.56471025

>>56470907
>Paying for some niche proprietary info

Do you work for some bank or trading company or mm or something or what do you do anon to have access to or focus on this kind of info?

>> No.56471028

>>56470923
What's the high score?

>> No.56471033
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56471033

>>56470967
Fuck yeah. I think we need to pay more attention to FOMC being on All Saints and All Souls days,

>> No.56471035

>>56471025
It's like $5/month on Robinhood

>> No.56471036

>>56470993
Xom is announcing earnings I believe 27th? so they probably holding off saying anything too crazy until then.

>> No.56471039

>>56470788
This isn’t an argument

>> No.56471040

Was hugely expecting a V-bottom day today with the options freeze but now that the bears are extremely uppity I am expecting a huge green dildo tomorrow before more red again

>> No.56471044

>>56471008
January 20$ calls. What you think?

>> No.56471045

>>56471023
>bullshit
when daddy takes your credit card away b/c you've been maxing it out for 57 out of 60 years and the 3 were only b/c he figured out online payments to get ahead of you.
Boomers are tapped, they're all in bonds or cash, there is no equity basis for this credit.

>> No.56471049

>>56471028
In the US? I think the Vegas shooter got 60.

>> No.56471052

>>56471035
I'm talking about these gamma charts not regular level 2 data if that's what you are talking about

>> No.56471057
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56471057

>>56470970
I agree with you. Tonight, this is by far the most important thing going on in the markets right now, and there is not enough attention from anons ITT to the situation with the yen / impending BOJ intervention = black swan
Far exceeds META earnings
This is Pompeii the night on August 23, 79AD people are still sitting in the bars drinking and laughing as if things are normal, while Mt. Vesuvius is smoking and hissing gases behind us

>> No.56471058

>>56470724
>during this time, there were plenty of days where negative economic data would be released, and the SPX would INITIALLY sell off hard (like -1%), only to be bought back up intraday and finish close to flat or down just like -.20%. this is because of the positive gamma zone for option dealers: buy the dip, sell the rip. so that dip was bought up, even in the face of bad economic news
God there were so many stupid reversal days(in fact, we just had one the day before) that it's what I come to expect now

>> No.56471064

>>56471049
Yea but that was an actual glowie in vegas, not some therapy drugged patsy groomed by glowies, there is a difference

>> No.56471065

>>56470968
Based. All that matters in the end is whether you make money.

>> No.56471068

>>56471044
Risky. I think SOXL could easily get back to 20 by then but of course that would take some meme magic

>>56471057
Why? Why would bond yields trigger anything? Bears have yet to actually explain how 5% bond yields would ruin the global economy

>> No.56471080
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>>56471064
/smg/ after dark goes pretty hard.

>> No.56471081

>>56470907
How do I pay and how much? I know it has to do with gamma. I understand but I need to see behind the lines

>> No.56471088

>>56470999
Car must have been a manual with a decent driver, I'd expect an auto to stall out, and most people overcorrect and just press all the pedals into spaghetti.

>> No.56471091

>>56471023
The tipping point was the quarterly refunding announcement. That announced an enormous Q3 deficit and confirmed Yellen would dump hard on bond baggies.

>> No.56471095

>>56470970
I honestly thought they would have immediately intervened once it hit 150

>> No.56471102
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>>56470970
>>56471057
This is going to be fun, Jap is the capital safety net but if they're dumping too, nowhere is truly safe, and we've achieved total correlationwave.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njvA03rMHx4

>> No.56471103

>>56471068
>Bears have yet to actually explain how 5% bond yields would ruin the global economy
see
>>56393382
>>56393391
>>56393400
>>56393409
>>55708596
we have explained every part of this to you, in great detail, over and over, you just haven't been listening, you just haven't been paying attention

>> No.56471104

>>56471065
I still like Buffet's attitude that you're going to be making money if you invest in value.

>> No.56471114

>>56470970
I buy it. UAW settling and Republicans compromising on the Speaker are also part of the all hands on deck panic mode.

>> No.56471119

>>56471095
They would literally uninvert the yield curve right now if they did it. Like I said, they’re probably working with the Fed right now trying to find a solutions. They know it could crash the markets and want to be careful

>> No.56471122

>>56471052
You do know the source is in the image, right?
It's $50/month.

Nothing wrong with paying for data if you find it helps you profit. It's pretty common to allocate a few thousand bucks towards private research. Actual professionals show it by linking bloomberg terminal screens.

>> No.56471127

>>56469917
fuck u

>> No.56471128

>>56471057
The Fed will just create a vehicle to buy bonds. The market isn't going to crash. The sky isn't going to fall.

>> No.56471132

>>56471122
50 bucks a month from what website?

>> No.56471134

>>56471102
Japs have been dumping for a while. Prior to the OPEC shit like six months ago. I import from them and the prices have been fucking awesome, but they're literally burning up our debt to create money to prop up their own stock market. Shit's fucked. They can't afford energy, and the currency reflects this.

>> No.56471135

>>56471104
Buffett referred to that advice in context that he would be way less rich if he followed it.

>> No.56471138

>>56471132
hedgeye

>> No.56471148

>>56471128
>manufacture crisis
>public panics, cries for solution
>HELP US, MASTERS!!
>offer solution already prepared in advance for criss you manufactured
>thank you for this [totalitarian] solution, master!!
CBDC.

>> No.56471153

>>56471104
Aside from being extremely late to Apple, the biggest strike against Buffett is when he started. The Great Depression and 1940's absolutely wiped out any interest in equities, so the guy was playing in the equivalent of if you took today's market and slashed prices by a factor of 10.

"Oh, wow, you can compound money by putting it in insurers trading at a P/E of 0.002 and telling the owners to issue a dividend? What a shocker."

>> No.56471155

Nasdaq is going lower btw.

>> No.56471162

So did that nigga Darius Dale do it or not, or is Keith McCullough full of shit?

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>>56471132

>> No.56471170
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>>56471155
Sorry, this is the tipping point. Your post makes a rally the contrarian, unexpected move. Tomorrow QQQ will be up 2%.

>> No.56471171

>>56471138
>hedgeye
Seems like they have a list of services, which service allows for access to the gamma exposure chart?

>> No.56471174

>>56471153
>Aside from being extremely late to Apple
desu I think when all is said and done it will turn out that he shouldn't have invested in Apple because he doesn't seem to have a decent exit strategy.

>> No.56471178

>>56471166
oh gotcha thanks for answering my question

>> No.56471179

>>56471122
>Actual professionals show it by linking bloomberg terminal screens.
Threadly reminder that Putin has a terminal and it logs when he's using it. I'm not pro Ukraine, they're fucking faggot hacker scammers, but so are the Russians, and they've both made a literal killing in profit over their 'war'.

>> No.56471180

>>56471162
Do what?

>> No.56471181

>>56471166
damn

>> No.56471190

>>56471153
>>56471174
He and Bill Gates are besties. They take long train rides together and play bridge.

>> No.56471192

Bros, Amazon NEEDS to save the markets and hit their earnings goal. I think markets will tank -20% if they don't, yikes.

>> No.56471197

>>56471148
Lay off the zerohedge

>> No.56471209

>>56471197
yeah I'm sure it's just coincidence that every single central bank is pushing or at least researching CBDCs in some way or form right as there seems to be currency crises impending worldwide

>> No.56471212

>>56470724
Can you explain a little more about how accelerating negative gamma exposure causes institutions to sell underlying because of their options hedges moving around? I get that it happens but I've never used options to hedge an institutional amount of capital before so I don't quite get how one leads to the other.

>> No.56471214

>>56471192
amazon carries the entire stock market now?

>GOOG down
>TSLA down
>AAPL down

who's next from the magnificent 7?

>> No.56471216

>>56471197
>Lay off the zerohedge
>fast food prices doubled in 10 years
Oy goy! We have a limited sauce, buy our social media clout or you won't have any self esteem.

>> No.56471218
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>>56471170
>you pointed out that it broke below the support and is definitely going to make another new low before it hits the new support
>ergo, it'll go up, because it will

>> No.56471219

>>56471214
NVDA

>> No.56471222
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56471222

I held short the Nasdaq and S&P starting in late January, because I felt that they were pumping too hard at the time, and stuck with them all the way through the end of June, when I finally couldn't take it anymore and capitulated.

And now the market is crashing, for all the exact reasons that I knew it was eventually going to, and that we were all telling mumu it was going to. And now I have such bad PTSD from this year that I haven't been able to short at all during the last couple of months, and basically swore off bobo bets ever again. Nothing could possibly be more brutal than what I experienced during those months. And now here we are, and the bulltards give it back, when all these stupid idiots had to do was NOT pump the market incessantly for months, which they should not have in the face of the horrific fundamentals that were all around us at the time. And here I am, counting the gains I would have had if I'd stuck to my guns. Congrats to the bears who never took their eyes off the prize. I hope you make a lot of money, you deserve it.

All fucking bulls must fucking hang.

>> No.56471224
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56471224

>>56471218
I know. Funny, right?

>> No.56471228

>>56471214
I thought META would come in for the save but guess not. To be honest though it's all up to NVDA because AI the is whole reason the market is up

>> No.56471230

>>56471214
There were like 7 tickers that were actually profitable compared to the stock market the last three years. All the others missed. And have continued to miss. After revisions. Four quarters in a row. AGAIN

>> No.56471238

Get got, bulltrannies. lmao

>> No.56471239

>>56471023
The news is irrelevant except to the extent it's an excuse for the market to do what it already wanted to do. There doesn't need to be a 'good reason' for anything to happen

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>>56469843
worst mass pew pew in murica this year. already social media is in a spin. war has been put on the backburner in the msm. DC will do nothing, but they will talk. the media will talk. people will talk. will there be panic? reckon i will watch gun related stocks tomorrow.

>> No.56471243
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56471243

>>56471128
>>56471134
Sky doesn't have to fall for the lines on the map to change and the bridges to regain their tolls.
The whole economy was based on US using defeated Japan as a cornerstone to control china. Nixon fed and clothed the beast for cheap labor. But now the beast is attacking the man we are using as a bridge. And we are too preoccupied to help him b/c of an aegis of corruption spreading through the powerful classes, due to a lack of soundness of money. If politicians don't wield true power to restrain capital pirates, then soon the pirates are better dressed than their betters. If they're better dressed and better fighters they are in fact the true leaders, while the man in the suit whimpers I'm in charge here. And Bane responds.

>> No.56471249

>>56471222
No see you need to make a system for trading and play it cold, like a machine. Any sort of emotional involvement will fuck you like this every time.

>> No.56471254

>>56471224
Heh, you sure got me.

>> No.56471255
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56471255

>>56471222
this u?

>> No.56471256

>>56471122
I was asking the anon what he did, not the source of his image

>> No.56471260

>>56471243
Agreed. I'm exiting and collecting, waiting for the collapse in 6-9 months during election season.

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>>56471222
There is still time fren. Take whatever burnable cash you have and buy some otm XSP/SPX puts and put the remainder some otm VIX calls. There is still plenty of time to get in on this dump, we haven't seen anything yet.

>> No.56471277
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>futures

>> No.56471286

>>56471277
Wow, that guy got fucked up in that crash. And the shark came out of nowhere!

>> No.56471291

>>56471256
he trades

>> No.56471300

when is the nigger fed going to change rates from going up, to going down?

>> No.56471305

>>56471243
Im bearish for the short term honestly, but the new paradigm, its all over, it's going to be a bloodbath stuff is nonsensical. The fed has a million tools at their disposal to contain a fallout. The stated goal of QE is to avoid all recessions. I expect at most a 10% drop from here.

>> No.56471310

Hello all, am noob. What does it mean when people say "how to chart"? Like what is "chart"ing? Thanks
>shart joke

>> No.56471315

>>56471300
next year in march. next week is going to be another pause

>> No.56471317
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>>56471300
You don't want that, anon. The F.E.D. will only cut when things are going to shit. And not just that, but going to shit so much that inflation is quenched and unemployment becomes a bigger problem.

>> No.56471322

>>56471305
BUDDY, look at core inflation computer.

>> No.56471329

>>56469917
kek

>> No.56471331

>>56471310
Go here and play around: https://www.tradingview.com/chart/

Notice the various drawing tools on the left and the ability to pile on tickers through the top toolbar and side watchlist.

>> No.56471332

>>56471222
kek. That's why you use stops. Re-enter when the setup is there again.

>> No.56471338

what an embarassing market, haha

>> No.56471342
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>>56471300
not until it's too late and the pivot doesn't help and it all crashes down like meteor (this has happened before)

>> No.56471346

>>56471317
yeh i know, I just want to know when i should buy JNK

>> No.56471347

>>56471277
kek like that stand power from jojo, infinite near deaths

>> No.56471353
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>fresh lows

>> No.56471357

>>56471346
CNBC's "Markets in Turmoil" indicator is a pretty good bottom indicator.

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>>56471353
>probing the bottom

>> No.56471372

>>56471300
What part of higher for longer don't you understand?
You're gonna trip balls on DMT FOREVER

>> No.56471377

The biggest tragedy of the decade of QE and this latest bull rally is that it made the average joe believe they were geniuses in the stock market, there was nothing they needed to learn other than "buy", and they would never have to develop any skill of either fundamental analysis or chart reading. This is gonna be a rough future for them, and it's only beginning.

>> No.56471380

>>56471372
well these rates are fucking gay, either keep them at zero, or go full Volker, know what I mean?

>> No.56471389
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>>56471103
Friendly reminder this very same argument has been going at least since 2020.

2021 and 2022 version was "if rates go above 2% shit breaks completely". We had correction but shit didn't break.
First half of 2023 if you listened to bears you would be rekt.

Now we have second half of 2023 and bears still don't understand the FED will guarantee all bank assets if it's needed, same as they did in March this year.

FED won't pivot.
There will not be big crash.

>> No.56471392

>>56471377
I will always keep on shorting. Currently the DAX and I'm going to watch the FTSE a little more as this piece of shit is basically crabbing on monthlys. Imagine shorting this for decades,

>> No.56471395

>>56471372
This is why I did psychadaleics like twice in college. It starts out with the walls moving and fun fractals and next thing you know it's 8 hours later, your girlfriend is pissed, you can't tell you dick from another planet and she's dragging you out to see some movie about gay kids in highschool.

>> No.56471398

>>56471380
Yeah the whole threading the needle shit is dumb, especially when every move the fed makes is outweighed by congress and the treasury.

>> No.56471403

>>56471212
>Can you explain a little more about how accelerating negative gamma exposure causes institutions to sell underlying because of their options hedges moving around? I get that it happens but I've never used options to hedge an institutional amount of capital before so I don't quite get how one leads to the other.

because more gamma basically means more volatility. if i am a Vol Control Fund, when volatility breaks out of historical trend bands, i have to reduce risk, which = sell some positions

>> No.56471406

>>56471389
I've only ever heard people say things would break in the high teens. At these levels the only thing that really blows up is housing but that was completely retarded to begin with.

>> No.56471411

>>56471389
The crash will not be televised.
SPY is flat over two years now, underperforming cash by about 7% and inflation by more than that.

>> No.56471422

>>56471403
Thanks!

>> No.56471426

>>56471421
>>56471421

>> No.56471442
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>>56471305
their last 3 bond auctions have been abject failures are you truly paying attention?
We've had a couple jumpers already in the risk management offices.
Normal paradigm is a ~50% drop that is within the normal boom and bust cycle.
an extraordinary crisis is a 60% drop. only happened once before.
New paradigm is civil war level shit.
Nigs were the collateral that went to 0. which meant the plantations went to 10 cents on the dollar. At the stroke of a pen. The banknotes of the north became worthless and when they went to foreclose on the southerners they were shot. So they raised an army.
Maybe you can argue AI has replaced the chinaman and the indianman, but its equally likely to have replaced the American man who deals in services.

>> No.56471454

>>56471300
Do you have a job?

>> No.56471503

>>56471310
giga bearish

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56471526

>>56471442
So I am using this AI prediction tools and we are going to have a mixed market but is bullish on
>META
>Tesla

I think I am buying those stocks.

Meta is distancing from Facebook and XR seems to be the future.

>> No.56471616

>>56471526
>AI prediction tool
>from an advertising company
>buy me sempai
good goy