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Bull Bros Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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>> No.56457314

Da Fuq was that?

>> No.56457328
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>> No.56457355
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Does anyone else have several hundred shares of SOXL at an average of around 25-30 and you're selling covered calls on it? Asking for a friend, of course. The friend is wondering what a good strike price and expiration would be or if it's just too risky during earnings.

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We like to have fun here.

>> No.56457358
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So, stranger:
>What're you buying?

>What're you selling?

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>Futures

>> No.56457363
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>oil bros

>> No.56457375

>>56457359
trade dow tomorrow it had microsoft but not google

>> No.56457376

Rest in piss google.

>> No.56457387

NOOOOOOOOOO NOOOOOOO NOOOOOOO

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>>56457363

>> No.56457393
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>>56457363
Bearish

>> No.56457396

is it going up or down wtf

>> No.56457402
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Here is why your GOOG calls are going up in flame. Something tells me it’ll reverse at open.

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>>56457363

>> No.56457405

>>56457363
Can't wait for this powder keg to blow up. jews are too slow.

>> No.56457407

>>56457396
Google down 6.5% after hours, spy down 0.2%, dow up 0.1%

>> No.56457409

>>56457198
>>56457292
>This is some next level stuff and I think we're going to moon way more than most people realize
The internet was a massive paradigm shift in technology that reached full momentum right around the turn of the century, yet from an investment perspective 2000 was a terrible time to buy in.
People have a tendency to overestimate the effects of technology in the short term, and underestimate over the long term.

Similarly, it's also hard to attribute winners in advance. LLMs can be reproduced endlessly and propagated once trained. Open source models are comparable, arguably better, than those locked down behind apps like ChatGPT.
There's some belief that our incumbent megacorps will see all profit from this progress, but the reality is that the most talented developers will choose to go it alone over giving up their labor for a few shares in a trillion dollar company. The
greater the margins that megacap tech enjoy, the easier it is for new entrants to step in. This drive to create something for oneself is why all companies tend to go through stages of live. Founder-lead companies often outperform. There is statistical evidence of this.
On the other hand, it's much more likely that megacap tech will see themselves hindered by government regulations and possibly more antitrust attacks in the years ahead. Some things make for natural monopolies. Networks, for example. Monopolies provide great profits for those who step in early and achieve control. Unfortunately, there is no natural monopoly with regards to AI.

>> No.56457412

>>56457407
QQQ is being goofy too

>> No.56457420

>>56457402
>2% miss on a growing sector
>Made an extra billion dollars anyway
Bears are so fucking dumb

>> No.56457421

>>56457402
>Filters
ON
>Filter:
AI
>Welcome,
>Have a nice evening

>> No.56457430

>>56457409
>Unfortunately, there is no natural monopoly with regards to AI.
whoever owns the cloud also owns the ai

>> No.56457433

>>56457409
God you type like such a fag. 2000 wasn't the "full momentum" of the shift to the internet at all, as anyone can see by looking at the long term charts for companies like Amazon and Google. See you in 10 years when my big tech holds are up 1000% and you're still waiting for the sky to fall.

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>Futures

>> No.56457482

Muuuuuuumuuuuuu.....

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>>56457355
Just sell it for a dollar or two away and that premium will lower your cost basis, if they get called away by some miracle at least you are done with that problem and can put that money to work somewhere else

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>>56457470
>nothing can stop this rally

>> No.56457499

>>56457482
We are going straight up the rest of the year and I’m not even worried

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>>56457498

>> No.56457506

>>56457355
A good starting point is find the option chain around 90 days out so January 19th for you. Find the closest to ATM call price which according to my broker is 2.88. Double that to 5.76 and add that to the underlying price. 16.65+5.76 equals 22.41. Round up to 23. Market makers will tell you SOXL has about a 50/50 chance of hitting 23 between now and expiration in January. I would suggest sell your calls no less than the next strike up that's divisible by 5 so 25. For extra safety go to 30. When you are up 50%, take profit.

>> No.56457507

>>56457498
You know this is just a random shitpost and not actually real, right?

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>>56457433
>See you in 10 years when my big tech holds are up 1000% and you're still waiting for the sky to fall.
Sadly, I'm certain you'll no longer be around to see me laughing at you a decade from now.
I often keep receipts. Yet whether the poster be anon, namefag, or tripfag; all vanish into the abyss when the time comes to pay upon their absurd claims.

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>>56457482
Those unsuspecting mumus are likely to get that rug pulled out from under them tomorrow

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>Distribution day Friday after a week of chop
>Bulls can't move price back for 2 straight days

Yeah, I'm thinking we're gapping down tmrw and finna eat bear bros

>> No.56457523

>>56457507
its right tho

>> No.56457532

>>56457523
No bud, it was literally just a random shitpost that some dumbasses who dont even trade turned into a meme. If you actually back test it, it’s right less than 30% of the time

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>>56457523
Futures will turn to crabbish by the time we go through this evening and that means red tomorrow according to the chart, so yes, I guess it will be right after all

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>>56457532
>he backtested a shitpost

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Last couple of days I've been thinking about scoopsies. If he never had that video chat with me where I got to see his qt feminine body, my life would probably be completely different now. I know the feeling when you see something you can't love without immediately. He will one day be my qt trap 2nd wife.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=zFYEYRcjK2g&si=98XmhRDjMIsreD-e

>> No.56457548

>>56457358
>buying
SVIX, ZIVB, WEIX, SVOL
>selling
Gonna sell all that when VIX hits about 17.5
>buying
After selling the volatility shorts gonna go back all in QLD and SSO and ride the low vol trend back up to new highs until the next nothingburger rocks the market and stops me out again

>> No.56457551

>>56457513
that rug makes no sense

>> No.56457561
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>>56457551
I know, AI can be quite retarded, this one isn't that good either

>> No.56457563

Theta bros we're eating gooooood tomorrow

>> No.56457569
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>futures

>> No.56457571

>>56457499
Mumu. Mumu, mumu, mumu. Mumu.

>> No.56457574

>>56457328
Can we do it? The legendary quadruplet lower highs and lower lows of myth and lore?

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not bad mumu..
but not good either
do you really think MSFT can carry the market alone?
See you at 4k...

>> No.56457585

>>56457563
Yea, I hope we come down a few bucks though, that would benefit me the most to give me max gain for my tomorrow contracts

>> No.56457586

>>56457532
>backtesting meme magic
That's now how the simulation works though

>> No.56457588
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>>56457577
>>56457577
>>56457577

>> No.56457589

>>56457583
2024 year of linux on the desktop is CANCELLED

>> No.56457596

>>56457430
>whoever owns the cloud also owns the ai
The words of a man who can only imagine what is right in front of him. It's clear that your only knowledge of AI comes from a 10 minute conversation with chatGPT, or maybe a few demo images out of midjourney. There is zero reason these cannot be deployed locally.
The real value is not consumer facing. It's jobs.

>> No.56457598

>>56457583
>>56457561
>>56457521
stop giving me hope bears

>> No.56457599
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>>56457588
V is overpriced
buybacks are just flushing money down the toilet.

>> No.56457602

WHAT THE FUCK IS A BROKER?

>> No.56457608

>>56457599
They still manipulate EPS thus making the stock rise. And in my case I’m counting on them raising their dividend, which they do consistently. I’ll still be holding V when it’s on the aristocrats lists

>> No.56457611

>>56457602
I don't know I just buy my stocks off robinhood

>> No.56457616

>>56457602
It’s a person who isn’t a richer

>> No.56457618

>>56457611
Been awhile since anyone has got it

>> No.56457621

>>56457596
Lol yeah and there's zero reason why some random civilian couldn't just start their own cell phone service company to compete with Verizon or AT&T - but they don't, because the humongous companies at the top deploy the technology more efficiently than anyone else can

>> No.56457631

>>56457358
I feel dirty because I want with an ishares for two of my etfs instead of vanguard

>> No.56457633

>>56457586
meme magic isnt real >>56444444

>> No.56457642

>>56457633
:( nothing ever happens

>> No.56457643

my dad used to be a financial advisor in the 2000's and told people to buy NVDA because he thought it would be the future of the internet. He's gone now but i think he may have been a genius.

>> No.56457651

>>56457643
his thesis was completely wrong but it would have been a good buy anyway

>> No.56457654

>>56457621
I don't converse with anons who self-admit to a SOXL cost basis above $30. Sorry.

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>>56457643
>my dad used to be a financial advisor in the 2000's and told people to buy NVDA
He bought himself right?

>> No.56457664

>goog healing
>spy healing
>qs healing
>dow already green
the squeeze happens tomorrow, exit all shorts

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Threadly reminder. Baggot is a pro-israel Jew.

https://music.youtube.com/watch?v=L0DAqQ7FP2w&si=10JHd6gxg6ig-0TK

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>>56457664
I just entered my first shorts of the week, I'm not gonna just hop right out before I cash in on the red tomorrow

>> No.56457678

>>56457664
Lol.
L o l.
L mao even.

>> No.56457682

>>56457659
he used all his investment money on penny stocks and lost so much fucking money.

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>>56457665
>Baggot is a pro-israel Jew.
Could be. Baggot is a baller desu.

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>>56457682
>AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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Bobros im shorting TESLA since september with a high leverage. should i tp tomorrow ? The market is dangerously pumping

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>>56457690
Just to be transparent, I'm Jewish too based AiC poster

>> No.56457726

>>56457714
Tp?

>> No.56457738
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>>56457726
Take profit.

>> No.56457744

>>56457714
Should have taken profit today lol. 5% gap up

>> No.56457745

>>56457602
Someone's who is comparatively more broke

>> No.56457752

>>56457714
the only pump is MSFT, don't worry about it

>> No.56457756
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>>56457738
I thought taking profit is forbidden here. This is a losing money only board. Only the few who truly make it have a chance of escaping this place

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>>56457498
What does the C, F, O stand for? Close, ???, Open?

>> No.56457765
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>>56457760

>> No.56457766

>>56457760
F is the thing that is trading now

>> No.56457772

>>56457760
>futures

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>>56457760

>> No.56457776
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>>56457760
This nigga eaten beans

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>>56457765
>>56457766
>>56457772
Thanks, I might be fucking retarded.

>> No.56457784

You know what would be a tragedy?
If the market crashed.
You know what would be an even bigger tragedy?
If you, knowing full well all of the warning signs of the imminent crash, didn't position yourself not only to not lose money in it, but to profit and make lifechanging money off of it - that would be the real tragedy, that you didn't dare to take the risk.

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today i made money
it's been quite a while
i'm shocked they allowed it
since i'm a gentile

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>>56457776
Don't laugh at me Rocker!

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>>56457784

>> No.56457824
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Oil isn't going anywhere.
I am out.

>> No.56457826

>>56457358
URNM

>> No.56457827
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>>56457793
Do not worry in due time the Jewish people will take back what's rightfully theirs.

>> No.56457831

GOOG healed dividend amount since 2000

2000: $0
2001: $0
2002: $0
2003: $0
2004: $0
2005: $0
2006: $0
2007: $0
2008: $0
2009: $0
2010: $0
2011: $0
2012: $0
2013: $0
2014: $0
2015: $0
2016: $0
2017: $0
2018: $0
2019: $0
2020: $0
2021: $0
2022: $0
2023: $0

This is an example of an NFT type stock

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the cumBreathIsDaWae samefagging alliance will very likely re-appear this or next week.
possibly with new aliases and more pretend infighting.
previous aliases included putsrnotdawae, bullsarethegoodguys, glowie, phd in bidenomics.

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>>56457793
They allow that to happen on purpose sometimes, like a confidence game, a con like 3 card monte. Then, when you are certain you will easily be right again, you go all in on this sure bet, and then, and only then,cdo they change it up on you and take all your chips

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>>56457795
Don't pull out a gun unless you're ready to pull the trigger...

>> No.56457851

>>56457835
kek what happened to that faggot. he's probably here lurking.

>> No.56457853

I'm thinking now's a good entry point for shorting SOXL

>> No.56457859

>>56457853
Friday

>> No.56457863

>>56457853
You misspelled SOXS

>> No.56457869

>>56457853
you would be correct
https://www.tipranks.com/news/biden-directs-nvidia-nasdaqnvda-to-immediately-curb-chinese-chip-exports
>Oct 24, 2023, 10:24 AM
it turns out the Chinese triple orders will not be allowed, whoopsie!
unironically SOXS to $20 within 8 weeks

>> No.56457876

>>56457851
if these SPX levels get successfully defended and the indices go northwards again they'll reappear trying to jizz all over the threads while claiming victory.

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Another day. I did work today. I added several new books to my calibre and kvaita servers. Also bagged more VZ shares at 9:30.

>> No.56457907

>>56457880
I'm telling your boss at the parks and recreation office that you buy stonks and books and do personal shit while on the state's dime

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>>56457880
>Also bagged more VZ

>> No.56457919

test question
>Joe forgets to log in to open up the market
>hedgie is leveraged 2 million across 3 different stocks and markets
Who’s fucked, or more fucked if you want to be a faggot about this in this instance, the hedgie or Joe?

>> No.56457937

>>56457919
There's only two peple here, me and that other guy. I'll let the other dude answer this one

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>>56457853
>>56457863
TXN's collapse is causing SOXX and ŚMH to eat shit. SOXS will have the upper hand tomorrow, Lum will get fucked and possibly creampied.

>> No.56457964

>>56457919
nobody is
events that call for deleveraging immediately don't happen every day

>> No.56457970

Also short-dated MARA puts might not be a bad way to bet on BTC's imminent bart down to 31.5k.

>> No.56457984

Bond yields are around 5%. In the absence of the fed raising rates further, what else will drive bond yields higher? 5% seems like a top to me.

>> No.56457985

>>56457307
Why is XOM going down? It should be up.

>> No.56458006

>>56457984
yield curve disinversion before cuts

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>>56457985
Oil is down

>> No.56458018

>>56457984
Extremely retarded fiscal decisions
Mass treasuries sell-off by banks and other institutions

>> No.56458023

>>56457984
if we get positive economic data, yields will push higher naturally
if we have bad treasury auctions, foreign buyers don't show up (especially China / Japan) then yields will push higher naturally
if yen/USD pushes 150, Japan will be forced to sell bonds in order to defend the yen, which will push yields higher ('naturally' ;) )
if China decides to ramp up selling of US assets, as Xi Jinping just visited their central bank for the first time in almost a decade, then yields will move higher 'naturally'

>> No.56458040

>>56458017
I am sure Friday the draws reported tomorrow will finally get priced in, just in time for everyone to dump everything right before the weekend.

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56458052

You are already dead.

>> No.56458057

>>56457985
Thanks for holding my bags, bitch!

>> No.56458061
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>>56457984
Improved prospects for economic growth.

>> No.56458068

>>56458052
First sell off

>> No.56458073

>>56457826
King

>> No.56458076

>>56457984
BOND
VIGILANTES

>> No.56458092
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56458092

>>56457984
Did you know the historical FFR since the 1950s is 4.6%? It's been about 1.75% since the year 2000 and 0.90% since 2008. I thought that was interesting.

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Well, the bond yield posts are almost like clockwork, and reminded me what time it must be already, so that means I need to go find something to make for dinner. Good luck to your positions see y'all (yoos guise in yankee talk) tomorrow

>> No.56458097

>>56457806
this

>> No.56458102

>>56457654
Not above 30, it's 27

>> No.56458104

>>56458092
Yes, yes, we've all read Jim Bianco.

>> No.56458110
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56458110

>>56458073
this

>> No.56458114

>>56458096
Good luck in your dinner search. Buy a share of whatever company makes the main ingredient.

>> No.56458116
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>>56458104
I haven't.

>> No.56458119

>>56458068
This. Why don't bears actually compare charts and see that 2022 was Fear/Capitulation/Despair?

>> No.56458120
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>>56457806
Lmao heemed Bobos ITT

Are you winning son

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2015: no this bitcoin is not a long term trend
2023: no this uranium is not a long term trend...we will use solar to replace it tomorrow...

seriously....at this point I just enjoy people not making easy money

>> No.56458129
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>>56457826
>>56458073
>>56458110
>Spot uranium ask: $74

>>56458116
You should, he's great. Search "Bianco Research" on Twitter and Youtube. This is his video on historical FFR/R*: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeN2XMQz4O8

>> No.56458131

>>56457433
Having been there myself, it was definitely Facebook. Myspace was for teens and college kids but Facebook was for everyyyboody from 16 to 26 and Facebook abused the Hell out of it.

2010.

>> No.56458142
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>>56458126
People don't focus enough on the meme chart's Disbelief and Hope phases.

>> No.56458148
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56458148

>futures

>> No.56458150

>>56457984
Supply and demand. America is issuing a shitload more to pay off its debt and china is dumping

And yes china holds $3 trillion compared to the fed's $8trillion so it acts as QT

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>>56458142
peak mania was 10Y ago

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>>56458142

>> No.56458189

>>56458102
Well in that case...
Your counterpoint is cell service providers, but interestingly they actually are getting outcompeted by random startups. It turns out that the only real natural monopoly is in the cell towers. The service itself can be run by anyone, as long as they can make a deal with the owners of those towers.
Hence, we've seen a rise in mobile virtual network operators (MVNOs) of late. Most of these MVNOs in the US operate under the service of those big few that you previously mentioned, but tend to outcompete and undercut on price. It's reached the point where the large carriers end up buying back bigger MVNOs on their own network.

See, the thing about natural monopolies is that they tend to inevitably get regulated. If controlling a monopoly position was the singular driver of ultimate value, you would probably think that electric utilities and ISPs would be the real FAGMAN megacaps leading the world, worth multiple trillions of dollars each. Sadly that's not the case. Many utilities maintain some healthy level of profit while providing essential services to the country at a fair price, but there is no real growth. If anything, they tend to become cheaper in real terms.
As it turns out, the most important and essential things in our life are not always the most profitable from a business perspective. It's important to understand this distinction, especially when looking towards valuing some future tech you think is leading us towards a new paradigm.

>> No.56458200

>>56458167
>>56458182
Eh, memories fade, old people leave and new people filter into markets. That's why commodity supercycles are a thing.

>> No.56458225
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56458225

>tfw 8pm finally got here so you could sell some more NATGAS on the HOOD 24 hour market without using a day trade after already selling some early this morning and then buying more in the dip of the day

>> No.56458231

Theranos guy, drop the act, utility stocks are flops.

>> No.56458235
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>MSFT moves 20 points on earnings

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It's literally over tomorrow isn't it bros
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4ujS1er1r0

>> No.56458260

Who wants to gamble their liquor license away tomorrow at close, @market

>> No.56458262

>>56458235
Fake news!

>> No.56458300

>>56458061
less growth than deficit
all based on debt

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>>56458262

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>>56458253

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>>56458253
Lol I sure hope not
>ignore the MSOS position; that is for the SAFER banking act

>> No.56458366

>>56458300
Exactly, so the bond supply increases *and* the private sector booms.

>>56458323
Politico Fact Check: Pants on Fire. MSFT is only up 13 points since the close.

>> No.56458383

>>56458366
Oooooh snopes me ander!

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>>56458361
Anon, there is absolutely 0% chance of MSOS hitting 40 by January just because of banking. You would need another COVID stimulus + QE.

>> No.56458399

So are we supposed to be heading towards a crash or not?
I was under the resumption we were but nothing ever seems to happen when I want it to

>> No.56458444

>>56458399
Lol why on earth would we crash? The economy is booming and the government is trying to slow it down, not speed it up

>> No.56458447

>>56458399
Why would we crash?? You didn't actually believe the bears, did you? Companies are beating on revenue and aren't giving negative guidance. Inflation is back within a manageable range. Bond yields and Israel are a complete nothingburger for the 50th time.

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56458461

I think I might be too retarded to continue living... let alone investing

>> No.56458473

>>56458399
Yes
No
Maybe
I don't know
Can you repeat the question

>> No.56458483

>>56458148
sauce?

>> No.56458482
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>>56458461
same, yet still i persist
check em

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>>56458461
Why do you say that, anon?

And remember, there's always the braindead strategy of 100% TQQQ. All that requires is pigheaded stubbornness to buy-and-hold.

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also is phizer a buy or a sell with this news?

>> No.56458494

>>56458399
Ackman saved the bond market monday to save us from 1987

>> No.56458502

>>56458486
I lost half my cash on TQQQ calls
Also, I have no food left in my apartment, so I'm eating ramen noodles again (had them for lunch)

>> No.56458508

>>56458502
That's not 100% TQQQ, that's TQQQ calls. Try again.

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>>56458494
Let's start with what I want to say. Ackman is a liar.
As far as I'm concerned, the guy is a major loser.
I wouldn't invest with [Ackman] if he were the last man on earth!

>> No.56458518

>>56458508
Like I said, I'm retarded

>> No.56458530

>>56458399
Yes, but when it'll be time to short you'll be too scared to anyways so why bother

>> No.56458533

>>56458518
Well auto-buy TQQQ and focus your brain cells on something else. Like writing a shopping list in the notes app of your phone.

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>>56458461
I've been retarded for 40 years now it's fine

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they really picked up those 2y huh

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56458567

BUDDY, look at Google Computer.

>> No.56458580

>>56458567
10pts
thats what 7% overnight

>> No.56458596

>>56458483
Sadly I don't know

>> No.56458605

Where's SOXL shill? SOXX closed right above the 200 dma, isn't this bullish?

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But for real why does wall street love microsoft so much while shitting on google all the time?

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>>56457599
>buybacks are just flushing money down the toilet.
wrong

>> No.56458669

>>56458560
Yield curve so flat its depiction is banned in Australia.

>> No.56458670

>>56458605
If he were here he'd say as long as SOXX is above the 200 day you should be long SOXL and when SOXX closes below the 200 day on the daily chart you should sell SOXL at the open of the next day and get into short term treasuries probably BIL. Right now SOXX is above so you should remain long SOXL

>> No.56458672

who else is up 10% on VZ today
you bought the generational bottom right?

>> No.56458705

how much are those Trump NFTs worth now?

>> No.56458710

>>56458560
those treasuries haven't even matured you sick fuck

>> No.56458718

>>56458661
microsoft builds things that make tech work
google sells ads

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>>56458662
At 30 P/E you might as well dilute with warrants and raise cash from suckers

>> No.56458747

>>56458661
microsoft CEO is high caste light shart brown. Google CEO is low caste full street shit brown. naturally they are going to treat Microsoft better by comparison.

>> No.56458809

>>56458747
all shart is shart. one drop of dirreah can make the soda undrinkable.

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Navient -79%growth
student loan servicer

>> No.56459203
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>futures

>> No.56459231

>>56458150
>America is taking out more debt to pay off its debt
???

>> No.56459232
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>>56458489
>AP fact checking is basically a cheat sheet to know that it confirms that it is in fact true right off the bat, without having to read all their fine print technicalities carefully constructed legal wording to try to use some qualifying words to try to deboonk it.

>> No.56459307

>>56457506
So right now I see that I could sell 6 $30 SOXL 1/19 calls for a max profit of $174. Is it really worth the gamble if that's the absolute max profit within a 90 day period? Or am I missing something

>> No.56459314
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>>56459231
The printing is from the Fed which *isn't* the US

>> No.56459321

>>56458148
I can save her

>> No.56459355

>>56459231
>https://ia904704.us.archive.org/35/items/pdfy--Pori1NL6fKm2SnY/The%20Creature%20From%20Jekyll%20Island.pdf
see page 191

>> No.56459360

>>56459307
why you goin all the way to 11 delta on january?
thats 89% odds out of the money, on a triple leverage instrument, thats really dumb

>> No.56459369

>>56459307
I usually sell mine shorter with better delta and pocket theta. your getting shit theta, delta, and premium at $30 strike that far out.

>> No.56459378
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56459378

i really *really* want to jerk off. i'm doing my best to abstaine so i don't end up with ED

>> No.56459418

>>56459378
Jerking off won't give you ED! Where'd you hear that crap?

>> No.56459430

>>56457569
Kek what a terrible haircut you can see the guy's disappointment at the end

>> No.56459432

>>56459360
I was just clarifying what that anon suggested. Maybe he has way more shares than I do and can get more premium out of contracts like that? Why would you say that it's "really dumb"?

>>56459369
Even on the shorter contracts like Dec 1st I would still only be able to get a maximum of like $85 - $180. Doesn't feel super worth it?

>> No.56459433

>>56459378
you get ED from chasing more and more degenerate fetishes. just wack it to bikinis and your golden.

>> No.56459444

>>56457616
FUCK YEA CHIPPAH!!

>> No.56459476

>>56459418
>>56459433
jerking off once a week or less? no issues, some "experts" even argue that its healthy to have a weekly release. jerking off every day or even multiple times a day? that shit will wear you out.

>> No.56459490

>>56459378
Jerking off is for the profane and ignorant.

>> No.56459497

>>56459432
Just sell the $21 or $22 strike or lower and get some money mane, that'll lower your high ass cost basis and you still probably safe if you wanna keep those shares

>> No.56459511

I feel cheated. We deserve a big movement in the indexes.

>> No.56459513

>>56459433
>just wack it to bikinis
wtf?

>> No.56459554

>>56459432
with a $30 strike? why not 11/17 $18 to $20?

>> No.56459560
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>>56459511
That's because everything is rigged for us (goyim) to be cheated. Anybody with two pineal gland cells to rub together can feel it, because we are cheated in every possible way, even ways most don't even know about. But your intuition is absolutely correct anon

>> No.56459562

>>56459497
Right but don't you think there's a fairly decent chance that SOXL hits $21 by the first week of December? It says my max profit on that would be $342 but other anons say to sell out at 50%, and I don't feel like $170 is worth potentially having all my shares called away

>> No.56459585

>>56459554
I dunno, with earnings I feel like SOXL could go to $18 or $19 in a single day before 11/17

>> No.56459594

>>56459585
you can close it whenever, you don't have to wait until 11/17 the goal is theta anyways.

>> No.56459608

>>56459562
Well you gotta find a good balance with what you are semi comfortable with. And imo, getting them called away isn't the worst thing in the world, it's just a 5 second transaction on your tax form to check over next year because you sold something, and you might can find something better for that money to finally be in.

But no, I don't really see SOXL really going that high, but of course I could be wrong, anything could happen. It's still a dice roll in the end

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>>56459433
>TFW you came around the other side and fully clothed and faces do it for you

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>>56459378
>i'm doing my best to abstaine so i don't end up with ED
isn't it literally the reverse? I suppose may depend on your age.

>> No.56459638

>>56459490
>>56459624
>for the profane and ignorant
never said i wasn't. i blame my parents for not raising me properly. that aside
>isn't it literally the reverse?
i see it as a tolerance thing. similar to substance abuse, the more you take the more you need. eventually the body is fully tolerant and then starts the slow descent into madness. in this case, ED. i don't see myself settling down and making a family of my own anymore, so its not anything like that.

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>>56457358
>What're you buying?
QQQ

>What're you selling?
I don't.

>> No.56459706

>>56458148
id drink that piss!

>> No.56459709

tripfaggots, avatarfaggots, and now discussing ED? Must be dividend """"""traders""""""" plaguing this thread.
I should always just skip green days, they bring out the worst smg has to offer.

>> No.56459716

I’ve got about 9k to play with and the rest of my portfolio is long term holds
I was thinking TNA to take for a triple leveraged ride for the next month or so seeing as it’s eaten shit lately but the market may very well pick back up.
Any recommendations?

>> No.56459726

>>56459709
jerk off while looking charts. lol

>> No.56459727

>>56459594
Right but to close, wouldn't I have to buy back the calls and lose most of the premium? That part I don't understand

>>56459608
Mainly I'm just skeptical about doing anything other than holding long term and buying when things are on sale, because every single time I've tried a different strategy I've immediately lost money

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>>56457715
Mr. Rockerfeller I was starting to get worried about you. How's the new job going? What have you been doing in your absence from the /smg/?

>> No.56459737

>>56459716
SOXL

>> No.56459761

>>56459737
I took SOXL for a ride back in 2019 or 2020 I forget but I made like 2 grand off of it.
I’ll keep my eye on it. Why do you recommend SOXL over TNA?

>> No.56459798

>>56459638
Can't you see this is exactly what they want. Men to die childless masturbating in an apartment alone. You gonna let them win?

>> No.56459813

>>56459798
Well, someday I will own a house

>> No.56459814

>>56459716
FNGU
Big tech is unassailable

>> No.56459820

Rate my portfolio please and I would love some insight into these companies.

Coupang (CPNG)
V. Galactic (SPCE)
Block (SQ)

Thank you all, god bless.

>> No.56459848

>>56459813
Don't stop there

>> No.56459860
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56459860

Is intel a good buy?
Anyone wanna share any insider information?

>> No.56459902

>>56459727
Well then paper trade it and put that call sell on a watchlist and pretend you sold calls on it, and just watch how it acts over the next few weeks or months or whatever. Worse case you learn a few things

>> No.56459948

>>56459820
2/10
CPNG is ok.

>> No.56459969

>>56457714
I saw a baby like that in Target and her mom and dad were so confident. It was awful.

>> No.56459971

>>56459820
>SPCE
lmao this nigga eatin memes

>> No.56459973

>>56459476
This.
i remember when i first started cooming as a kid. shooting loads to just bikini girls sent me into an orgasmic orbit. now i watch girls prsctically getting raped and can barely get full hard. Also my record is ganking it like 15 times in one day. Ahhh teenage vigor

>> No.56459977

>>56459948
Thank you for the input. I am very bullish on Coupang over the next 10 years. SPCE I just hope to see some parabolic motion in the next 3 years. SQ I am totally clueless about but I like financial service companies and I think this one has headroom.

Dog Bless

>> No.56459981

>>56459174
Hmm, a zero growth divvy stock that hasn't been heemed.

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>>56459820
>CPNG down 63% last 5 years
>SPCE down 85% last 5 years
>SQ down 36% last 5 years
QQQ is up 116% last 5 years, SPY at 60%. Your stocks didn't outperform the major indexes, and have actually lost money. At this point you're better off with index ETFs.

>> No.56460005

>>56459977
>SPCE I just hope to see some parabolic motion in the next 3 years.
You won't even have interesting short squeezes because nobody considers it worth shorting. It's a dead, pointless company.

>> No.56460012

>>56459977
You’d be better off with Momentus.
>MNTS

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56460023

>>56459476
>>56459973
It's good for you. Helps keep the "plumbing" working properly.

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>>56459981
Dammit, I was wanting to start a HEEM ETF, but apparently that ticker symbol is already taken

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>>56460023
Have you ever coomed at work, like in your car or the bathroom or just in your cubicle working late after the bosses left but before the Guatamalan women come around to empty the trash cans?

>> No.56460047
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CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK CLACK

>> No.56460054

>>56460023
I like your retirement plan. Care if you lend it to me?

>> No.56460061

>>56459977
SPCE is probably dead, although based on a quick glance at cash burn it'll take a year or two until they actually die. Perhaps there's a slim chance could pump in the meantime, but I think there are better pump and dumps out there if that's truly your objective. It was a meme of another era.
SQ could do alright in theory. I just don't buy it. They have something going but they've made many poor decisions. I remember recommending some friends to avoid it 5-6 years ago. Got laughed at for awhile before recently they accepted that maybe I was right all along.
CPNG is solid. My primary concern is how do you price longterm growth against the country with the worst demographic trend in the world. No one in South Korea is having babies. At least it's a real company, and keeps on chugging despite the blatant attempt by softbank to dump the top of the stimmy bubble. Perhaps they'll find a way forward.

>> No.56460067

i literally don't get what happened today? i trade in the mornings then work in the afternoon, last i checked market was literally dying then i see QQQ closed at +1% out of nowhere, what gives?

>> No.56460092

did i post already? im fucking delirious! icanttakemuchmore!!!!

>> No.56460093

>>56460067
Fun and games

>> No.56460097
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>>56460067
All options traders must hang.

>> No.56460098

>>56460067
Israel still exists

>> No.56460103

>>56460067
Bull bros trapped Bobo again

>> No.56460136

>>56460000
Checked

>> No.56460144
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>>56460097
Naw big pimpin, and at this rate, there will be hourly options or evening options coming within the next two years.

1 Hour To Exps will be all the rage, scoop me up some cheap 30 delta 10:30am exp options big playa, get me a fast 10x once a blue moon you know how we roll dawg nuts big pimpin spending cheese

>> No.56460150

>>56460000
Nice digits. And we still have some ways before we hit YTD highs

>> No.56460154
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>>56460144
>1 Hour To Exps will be all the rage
This will happen and we will have the most ridiculous pants shitting volatility intraday only to trade +/- 0.2%. Thanks.

>> No.56460157
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>>56460150
Pic for dumbassery

>> No.56460169

>>56460045
Uh well at my old job before I went into govt service I fucked my boss's secretary in his office once. Hey his office had a couch and it was after hours. It was my last day there anyway. He was an old pervert (I was 19 then so yeah pretty much anyone 40+ seemed half dead already to me) and had been hinting round that he wanted to fuck her (this was back before MeTo and all that crap was really a thing). She wanted nothing to do with him. Me, though? She liked me. Started out easy, "hey how are you" type of thing. Then it built up over time. Started dating. Kept it low key. Then I got fired. Office politics. Last day there I cleaned out my desk. Decided to go out with a nice memory. Sadly the relationship with the girl didn't work out. Shame, she had no qualms about sucking my cock and sometimes she'd even swallow to.

>> No.56460173

Whats xom gonna do with its 30 billion in cash?

>> No.56460182

>>56460173
Stock buy backs

>> No.56460188
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>>56457420
It failed to meet their projections. That doesn't indicate that the tech sector isn't growing but that Google is failing to grow with it. A miss is a miss. Investors want to see growth and at the least have their perfections met.

>> No.56460194
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>futures

>> No.56460196

>>56459314
Issuing is from the US treasury though.

>> No.56460197

>>56460182
Makes sense I think since they said they were committing 20b a year to stock buybacks so in 3 years the deal goes neutral in cost

>> No.56460200

>>56459698
its a good thing i left for some chicken nuggies before this was posted. otherwise i might've broke and jerked off.

>>56459798
who is "they" anon? i'm not choosing to be childless, it was just the easier option. i live in a house, not an apartment so i've got that going for me at least.

>>56459973
i mean, i still get random boners throughout the day, so its not like i'm completely hopeless.

>>56460023
its debatable, tons of anecdotal evidence being pro and con about it. so long as its in moderation of course

>> No.56460208

Imagine holding absolutely anything just ahead of a -80% market crash.

>> No.56460213

Thanks all for the advice on SPCE, CPNG, and SQ. Sounds like I've made my bed and now it is time to eat it. Sadly, I do not take paper losses. I'll continue to DCA into Coupang but I'll just sell covered calls on SQ and SPCE. Thanks everybody for the input.

>> No.56460223

>>56460169
I used to fuck girls inside escalades or whatever nice cars were on the car lot when I was a young car salesman because we had access to any car they had, then try to hide the coom stains later that evening when I was selling it to somebody else

>> No.56460229

>>56460208
come on schizo, lets here your thesis as to why cocacola’s trucks are going to drop 80% in value, mcdonalds storefronts are going to drop 80% or why boeing’s factories are going to drop in value by 80%. Go on, Ill wait

>> No.56460235

>keep getting absolutely fucked on BRK
should I just buy more

>> No.56460237
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>>56460144
>hourly expiration
Market cycles that used to take decades will be compress down to months then weeks. Entire economic bubbles and collapses will happen in 24 hour timeframes. Imagine a dot com bubble every other month. The yearly Great Financial Crisis
>Hold me bros for I can only become so erect

>> No.56460252
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God I hate all these seething mudslimes on fintwit. Warcrime this Israel that. Who gives a shit you filthy niggers.

>> No.56460257

>>56460229
Your fake economy, fueled by fake money, printed by a fake government, elected in fake elections, is living on borrowed time, and you know it.

>> No.56460266

>>56460257
Is this not bullish for Coupang? Or is Korea fake money too? Please advise.

>> No.56460274

>>56460266
Manufacturing is real. Everything else is fake bullshit.

>> No.56460275
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>Friday decide to bite the bullet and get into uranium
>URNM rather large spreads
>fuck that gonna buy CCJ instead
>yesterday
>URNM 3% in green while CCJ only 1%
did I heem myself?

>> No.56460284

>>56460194
>It was not until the Admiralty admitted that Barham had been sunk and described the circumstances that Tiesenhausen knew that he had sunk her. He was awarded the Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross that day.[100] The Barham's crew are commemorated by a memorial bench, located in Nothe Gardens, Weymouth.[101]

blackpill

>> No.56460309

>>56460257
Okay, and thats going to nake the value if all the shit the largest companies own drop by 80% all at once, how exactly? Go look at Venezuela’s stock market, it continues to post record highs even though the government is completely collapsed. The stock market is not the us government or the us economy. It is the combined value of the largest companies in the usa

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>>56460229
Meme companies with zero growth. Just hasnt sunk in yet

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>>56460275
Goyim getting heemed is the very first law (((they))) wrote when they first created usury and came up with the very first stock market back when they were still openly Babylonian baal worshipers thousands of years ago.

Getting heemed has stood the test of time

>> No.56460334

>>56460310
I like that graph. I think I'll pay 30x earnings.

>> No.56460341
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>>56460309
I think maybe (You) should look at the Greek stock market.

>> No.56460342

>>56460310
>revenue largely unchanged, actually up in the past few years
>this is going to make mcdonalds lose 80% of its value and all the other largest companies all at the same time
i swear bears are the dumbest people on this earth

>> No.56460351

>>56460342
>actually up in the past few years
Adjust for inflation, retard.

>> No.56460360
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>>56460252
It's just the Golem story playing out in real life. Ghe ideas they created feminist progressive notions like Islamophobia, minority protection, etc which they used to destroy white cultures is now being used against them

>> No.56460373

>>56459432
its all gamma risk on a 3x leveraged instrument, which means ur getting almost no theta. on a product. Gammas a slow ride down unless the deltas drop. but the stock market is 53% upside. and you're doing it at the tail of a very down month, in a bear market. where big green bars just fucking appear.
you're risking 30 for 1 here, with zero counterplay.
If you bet nearer term closer and tighter you get way more bang for your buck. for me in this market with these risks, I wouldn't touch an option for less than a dollar b/c the risk is much closer to 1:1. and the drip is faster.
However thats an over time strat. any single trade can fuck you.
the whole game is cash in your pocket.
You don't sell the calls on the way up, you sell when you think its near the top.
and if you're doing covered calls, straight up 50 delta every fucking time. with 1 dec 50 delta call you're taking 1/6 the risk for the same cash
you don't want to yolo in options unless you got some risk free money drip over time.

>> No.56460375

>>56460342
Well I think he's saying it's possible that a once in a hundred year 1929 style heeming could happen again, it's probably about due anyways.

I guess people can argue about the future but until it happens or doesn't happen nobody's prediction can be proven wrong or right til after the fact

>> No.56460391

>>56460375
So let’s get rich off being smarty pants who do predict futures

>> No.56460403

>>56460391
Well they can certainly put their money where their mouth is, but even if they are wrong, that doesn't mean they are literally the dumbest people on earth like what was said

>> No.56460406

>>56460341
Hahahaha the 99 crash was caused by lying and insider trading and the second was caused by their banks having their money confiscated by the eu during the sovereign debt crisis. Please tell you you dont think it’s even remotely possible for either to happen to the usa. Hahahaha who the fuck is going to confiscate all of america’s money? Hahahaha jesus christ bears are so fucking stupid
>>56460351
>mcdonalds is keeping up with inflation so every company in the sp500 is going to have the value of everything they own drop by 80% all at once together
hahahaha
>>56460375
Hahaha 1929 could never happen again because of all the fail safes that were put in place to prevent it. Lmao bears are dumb as shit

>> No.56460408

>>56460360
Well yeah social media favours muslims because they are highly social animals with huge families (and they all look the same it's disgusting). Even with their inferior intellect they realize they can weaponize these inventions. Sandniggers everywhere. Good thing I like to stay away from social media anyway.

>> No.56460417
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>>56460406
nah we're on the road for 1873. You have no idea how bad it is.

>> No.56460424

>>56460375
You're trying to reason with a retail fool who went tits long at open on july 27th and doesn't understand equity valuations

>> No.56460426

>>56460406
Anything is possible, and sometimes fail safes and other regulations have unintended consequences and create even worse problems down the road then they even purport to stop.

You sound like you should read a history book or twenty sometime. And If it weren't for the federal reserve fucking with shit so much, 1929 wouldn't have even happened like it did of at all

>> No.56460449

>>56460417
China is because they have used government infrastructure spending to boost their economy for decades artificially. The usa hasnt and so there is zero chance of 1873 happening here
>>56460426
No, anything is not possible. If stocks dropped too much on panic, trading would stop until the panic was calmed just like the russian stock market at the beginning of the invasion. You should really read a book or twenty sometime

>> No.56460456

>bro you should totally not trust the US government bro they are retards bro it's all gonna crash bro
I can't tell if it's funnier to just laugh at that kind of idiocy or systematically prove it wrong so hard you break someones mind.

>> No.56460458

>>56460144
We should get 24 hour stock markets. It’s pretty ridiculous how much after hours and premarket shit can take place.

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>>56460406
>>56460449
>China is because they have used government infrastructure spending to boost their economy for decades artificially.
>The usa hasnt and so there is zero chance of 1873 happening here
Bruh.

>> No.56460463

>>56459860
Here I don't think so, you should have grabbed some when it nosedived earlier in the year and be out of the trade by now.

>> No.56460478

>>56460461
Yeah, building the railroad which employed the most people in the country and then having nothing left to build is what caused 1873, sound familiar? It’s where china is as we speak. Still not going to crash china by 80%, certainly not the usa

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>>56460478
How many trillions of dollars were printed since 2008? Remind me again, my memory is fuzzy.

>> No.56460510

>>56460485
the money supply had been shrinking since jan of 22 slugger. Modern Monetary Theory says you can print a dollar for every dollar someone takes on in debt, once that debt is paid off the dollar does too. You really are dumb as shit

>> No.56460516

>>56460449
You don't know for certain what could not be possible to happen. Your the same type of brainless faggot one hundred years ago that said speaking into a magic stone and instantly talking to someone on the other side of the world would never be possible because you can't imagine something further then your own eyes can see right in front of your face

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>>56460458
>24 hour
Get a better broker

>> No.56460541

>>56460516
I know for 100% certainty that an 80% stock market crash is impossible. If stocks plunged 7%, trading would be stopped immediately. If the regulators determined it was panic selling, it would stay stopped until the panic was over. The russian stock market was stopped for weeks for example. There is zero chance of the 500 largest companies in the usa all losing 80% of their value all at once. Bears are literally the dumbest people on the planet

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>>56460510
>>56460541
The US "economy" has been sustained on nothing but nine trillion dollars of fake Federal Reserve money, plus an additional $20 trillion of government debt. You disproved your own argument, good job.

>> No.56460555

>people want an 80% crash in the market
>hundreds of stocks are making 52 week lows, some down 80%
What people want is specifically SPY to crash 80% and that will literally never happen. If there's a crash you'll get 50% MAXIMUM.

>> No.56460564

>>56460373
>You don't sell the calls on the way up, you sell when you think its near the top.
This is backwards. You want to sell near the bottom, or during an uptrend. Not at the top. A covered call is the same as a put, so the maximum win is any scenario where the underlying holds flat or moves higher.
There's a common belief to sell calls when you think something is topping as an exit strategy, and sometimes that works out because an uptrend may maintain momentum and continue past your own perceived top. However, when something actually tops out it often tends to correct violently downwards - this is the opposite of what you want. Rather than realizing a large profit you end up with some small premium and your unrealized gains rapidly vanishing.
If you think something is truly topping, trailing stops tend to be a better strategy.

Honestly, it's best just to not associate covered call selling with your same swing trades. They're two distinct strategies. There are plays where it makes sense to sell puts/CCs and earn some good premium on a name that looks asymmetrically unlikely to drop lower, and there are plays that have strong momentum and look like good swings. These are not the same. The swing trades may display what appears to be good premium to sell into, but the realized volatility is also high. There's no real outsized benefit in selling calls there.

>> No.56460573

>>56460549
Uhh no sport, the “fake money” was debt people took out and promised to pay back. They are paying it back and the “fake money” has been shrinking for nearly 2 years now, whilst the gdp has gone up from $19t to $27t. Your thesis is dumb and you a retarded to coming up with it

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>>56460573
And hooww many years will it take for the Fed to unload its balance sheet at the current rate? And hooww high is the US government's debt-to-GDP? And hooww high are the interest payments on the national debt relative to tax revenue? Please enlighten me, my coping shill friend.

>> No.56460612

>>56460597
Why would the fed need to unload its balance sheet? Its a private organization with the sole purpose of producing as much profit as legally possible. Again, the stock market is not the government. A government borrowing more money and inflating the currency to pay off debt is extremely bullish. See venezula. >but muh greece. Greece used the euro and had no ability to do this. Hahahahha you are fucking stupid

>> No.56460617

If the money is fake, and stocks are fake, and stocks are denominated in fake money, why would anything crash?

>> No.56460623
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>>56460612
You're dodging the question. Earlier you were trying to argue that the US economy actually has some fundamentals left and isn't just propped up on fake government spending, but now that's clearly bullshit. Which one is it?

>> No.56460635

>>56460617
"Crash" might not be the right word. "Stop existing" might be more accurate. See also: Worries that Krugman Has Gone Too Far.

>> No.56460636

>>56460623
Im saying both that the economy is strong and booming and that the stock market has absolutely nothing to do with the us economy

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>>56460636
You fucked up your shill narrative, retard. No disgusting rotten-ass surf and turf for you tonight, I'm afraid.

>> No.56460660

>>56460655
hahahaha thanks for admitting defeat sweetie

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>>56460660
It's *sweaty, sweaty.

>> No.56460691

>>56460667
cringe

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>>56460691

>> No.56460702

>>56460697
I denounce the talmud, can you?

>> No.56460714

>>56460702
I denounce the Talmud, and more importantly, the antichrist, whomst'd've'nt I hate.

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>> No.56460738

>>56460555
>they didn't check his trips because he told the truth
It'd be more like 25-30% given how much leverage there is in everything. I have disproven every single angle of shitting on the USD or economy, at the end of it all the only thing that actually matters is interest rates and payments on such as a percentage of GDP and so long as that stays below 15% at most in the short term and 7-9% of GDP long-term adjusted after the fact it's a nothingburger. Anyone saying otherwise is seething so hard blood runs from their eyes like tears, and given that money is distilled time into a unit of currency and is thus power it is amazing to me that anyone on the face of the earth wouldn't expect the biggest dick on the planet in military might wouldn't also be the biggest dick on the planet with their currency. We service 63t in trade with ~35t in debt because the rest is paid off and the bonds that back that currency are the most reliable investment vehicle on the planet.

Like I said earlier, I can't tell if it's funnier to just sit back and laugh at morons saying it's all going to crash or if it's funnier to disprove the notion so hard it makes people cry.

>> No.56460757

Baking

>> No.56460769

>>56460757
You won't do shit

>> No.56460778

>>56460738
>I have disproven every single angle of shitting on the USD or economy
>2 posts by this ID
>>>56460456
???

>> No.56460810

>>56460778
All the money that was printed in recent years should have been printed far sooner than it was but wasn't because it was being saved for a rainy day. The real metric everyone should look at for the national debt is it's relation to the total amount of USD in existence, which is about ~60% at most. We could in fact double our current debt and with extreme austerity measures come out the other side of it intact we just choose not to do it because it would crush the rest of the world and that's not what the US is about. Bears are going to eat shit soon and I am fucking here for it.

>> No.56460872

>>56460871
>>56460871