/smg/ stock market general

[Anonymous No.56377420]

no mercy edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Live Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.newslive.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

previous /smg/ >>56375809

[Anonymous No.56377424]

Bulls won

[Anonymous No.56377428]

If you bought Microsoft at the end of 2012 you paid $26.71/share You'd have received $19.08/share in dividends. Investors who owned Microsoft for over 10 years have received over 70% of their original investment back in the form of dividends. Microsoft grew FCF/Share from $2.93 in 2013 to $7.99 in 2022.
The valuation multiple increased from 9 times FCF in 2012 to over 40 times FCF in 2023. The 2012 investor is earning an yield on cost of 11.233%

[Anonymous No.56377438]

Is China expecting something to happen?

[Anonymous No.56377439]

happy vibes this monday morning! buy XLE

[Anonymous No.56377443]

>>56377428
Honestly pathetic to hold an investment for 10 years and not even see your capital returned.

[Anonymous No.56377445]

ORLEN brothers. I love her so much...

[Anonymous No.56377449]

>>56377443
Boomer stocks. You may as well stick with index funds if you’re in on microsoft

[Anonymous No.56377450]

I like rugs. I like chitin, I like pig feet

[Anonymous No.56377452]

If my stocks go up... does that affect my weekly unemployment claims? What if I take profit on some options but never take the money out of the account?

[Anonymous No.56377459]

>>56377428
And that was with the ebin free money central bank policy. What a bad joke, any real estate anywhere, even crappy, beat up trailers probably beat microsoft dividends.

[Anonymous No.56377462]

>>56377452
What does one have to do with the other?

[Anonymous No.56377467]

>>56377462
Selling for profit is technically income

[Anonymous No.56377471]

>>56377424
won what you gotta fill these 2 gaps before you get bear dick out of your ass. as for the bears it just looks like they're throwing it back

[Anonymous No.56377477]

>>56377452
No, “earned” income only.

[Anonymous No.56377481]

>>56377467
Not til you file taxes because you could have losses that offset that, and anyways they won't know and neither will you if you are positive or negative and how much til the year is over

[Anonymous No.56377483]

>everything on my shopping list is up

[Anonymous No.56377494]

>>56377428
If one were to add inflation to this, you could be the funniest post this smg but no one here is that bored.

[Anonymous No.56377497]

>>56377477
>>56377481
Ok thanks, gonna file to get my weekly $900

[Anonymous No.56377498]

>>56377428
and now the beta-weighted return?

[Anonymous No.56377508]

The US government is insolvent.

[Anonymous No.56377516]

>>56377452
thats up to their reporting standards
each state has its own unemployment insurance program, so you can't really say without more info

[Anonymous No.56377519]

>>56377508
They are trying their best to make all of us insolvent as well

[Anonymous No.56377524]

>>56377519
in my case they are succeeding admirably

[Anonymous No.56377525]

>dont buy FNKO at open they said
>nobody collects FNKOs anymore they said

[Anonymous No.56377528]

>>56377497
Cool, were you laid off, quit, fired, or what?

[Anonymous No.56377548]

WHY DID I LISTEN TO THE OIL SPAMMERS

[Anonymous No.56377549]

>>56377528
Laid off a couple weeks ago. Startup I was working at is slowly imploding. They paid me probably way more than I was worth, so I have a lot of runway saved up in cash and stocks/funds

[Anonymous No.56377570]

Reminder that 2024 is a year for prosperity.

[Anonymous No.56377573]

>>56377548
Oil? Oil.

[Anonymous No.56377576]

I see a whole bunch of huge layoff announcements in my news feed. It seems like the layoffs are accelerating. Surely this is bullish for the economy, right?

[Anonymous No.56377588]

>>56377428
Yeah it's quite ridiculous. My mom probably outperforms everyone here with her insanely low averages on tech stocks. The way the market exploded, even Apple provides good divvies provided you bought 15 years ago.
Imagine those that bought Exxon when it Covid-crashed. They are getting so much divvies, it's insane.
And here I am, only having started investing ever since the end of 2021 (quite literally the worst time to start DCAing and investing) but I just didn't care about it. Dumbass me. I will never outperform my mum, regardless of how well I invest now

[Anonymous No.56377593]

>>56377548
dunno the lines are pretty clear

[Anonymous No.56377600]

>>56377593
It’s can still go up to 100+ and lines will hold

[Anonymous No.56377603]

>>56377576
yes unironically and contrary to what you would assume
rate hikes stop sooner and all that
>that Cramer picture with best stock market day during layoffs

[Anonymous No.56377607]

>>56377576
Layoffs are hugely bullish. The surge in "day in the life of" roasties was the absolute top signal

[Anonymous No.56377608]

>>56377438
Can someone explain what this means? Wouldn't they do this just to fuck Chinese retail during a correction

[Anonymous No.56377609]

>>56377603
This will have no impact whatsoever on our economy based on consooming.

[Anonymous No.56377613]

>>56377593
True.
Low $50s looks like the end goal.
Still holding my HOD from last week.

[Anonymous No.56377616]

>>56377549
I collected unemployment for two years one time. At the time I was supposed to apply for two jobs a week, and almost never did. About 14 months into it they called me and audited me, and they picked some random week a few weeks before that as the week I had to prove.

I had to fill out a form showing who I applied with, for what position, what the results were, how far I got in the process, etc along with any prior or correspondence, emails saying I didn't get tht job, who I talked to and all that Info and fax or email it to some black bitch state auditor worker.

By some miracle, that week was the ONLY week I actually applied for two jobs in a single week. I emailed the firm and all evidence and never heard back from them.
TLDR: I really got lucky and dodged a bullet there

[Anonymous No.56377617]

I don't even know anymore anons.

[Anonymous No.56377620]

>>56377576
>Surely this is bullish for the economy, right?
It's bullish for stocks and that's all that matters. You guys seem to make the mistake of thinking economy = stock market. A lot of the personnel is useless or contributes very little so it's fine to lay them off and increase profits that way.
You don't see companies like Caterpillar do that though, mostly tech. I wonder why ;-----)...

[Anonymous No.56377627]

>>56377608
Hedge funds can't leverage and retail can only go up to 80% LTV. Chink retail is already fucked because most stocks are -80% so i'm guessing the big guys bought and now they are cutting interest rates there is 1T RMB fiscal stimulus and they're banning leverage shorting to boost the market.

[Anonymous No.56377631]

>>56377593
possibly the worst TA i've ever seen

[Anonymous No.56377632]

>>56377617
Looks like a perfectly zoomed in bart to me

[Anonymous No.56377638]

>>56377576
Layoffs are bullish. It is labor inefficiency being corrected. It is the invisible hand guiding progress forward.

[Anonymous No.56377641]

>>56377617
triple top

[Anonymous No.56377663]

>>56377603
>>56377607
>>56377620
>>56377638
20% unemployment will be *EXTRA* bullish for stocks, my fellow apes!! To the moon!!!!!

[Anonymous No.56377666]

My goyslop is healing

[Anonymous No.56377681]

FNKO is MOASSing

[Anonymous No.56377684]

For a guy with a double digit IQ, I must have missed something. And I hadn't missed much... I'd come this close to having an impact on the world... And now the only thing I'd have an impact on... was the SMG.

[Anonymous No.56377687]

>>56377632
>>56377641
why cant we close this gap?

[Anonymous No.56377710]

>>56377663
I mean if it forces them to turn on the money printer, it will be bullish unironically.
Stop pretending the stock market has any basis in the actual economy.

[Anonymous No.56377712]

>>56377570
We know.

[Anonymous No.56377730]

>>56377663
"People need to be laid off for the economy" has been a fact people don't want to hear for a year or 2 now. Tech companies with wild amounts of funding paying mid level HR people with no discernable skill set high 6 figures to fuck around isn't actually a good thing, regardless of what midwits will have you believe

[Anonymous No.56377761]

>>56377663
People will just pick up several part time crappy jobs and will be happy. Better deal with it, son

[Anonymous No.56377764]

>>56377616
This kind of honesty needs more attention. Some things in life you can get away with but others you better be ready to pay up

[Anonymous No.56377766]

>>56377684
You matter to me fren, and you could make the TINYEST ripple like a butterfly fluttering his wings could eventually (in theory) cause a hurricane on the other side of the world under just the right circumstances

[Anonymous No.56377769]

>>56377443
Can’t tell if you’re just stupid or trolling. MSFT total return over that ten year time period is nearly 10x

[Anonymous No.56377793]

>>56377609
i get it, maybe we'll go into another recession but they will claim its not actually a recession again
the market is forward looking and the administration(the Fed and federal gov) will do whatever it can to not admit to that though
so yeah, layoffs whatever, line go up and middle class dies
this is the future everyone wanted, have fun faggots

[Anonymous No.56377800]

Meme generators are cancer, but I cannot be arsed to put in more effort

[Anonymous No.56377805]

>>56377793
>go into another recession
We never left

[Anonymous No.56377815]

>>56377805
>We never left

[Anonymous No.56377819]

>>56377793
You will see the feds make every attempt they can possibly muster until after Trump takes over the Presidency again.

[Anonymous No.56377836]

>>56377769
Hey genius. Read your own post, again.

Over 4x of that total return is directly from multiple expansion. lol. Pull back out that multiple expansion and it's underperforming the S&P.
You have to backtest against the past decade because you know what happens if you include the decade before that. lmao.
Next decade is sadly more likely to mirror that previous 10 year stretch, while comping against heightened inflation too.

Dividend growth investors are actual morons.

[Anonymous No.56377841]

Tell how this is not bullish as fuck

[Anonymous No.56377848]

>>56377800
g1 anon. I remember anons here telling me how I am wrong and that the rising yields today will crash the market. Then again, the night is still young.

[Anonymous No.56377865]

>>56377848
rising yields did crash the market though

[Anonymous No.56377878]

>>56377836
This dude is an absolute retard. Thought dividend return and total return is the same thing. Laugh at this poster

[Anonymous No.56377896]

>>56377878
>The economy is doing good. My food stamps went up 83$ a month. I’m ridden wt biden

[Anonymous No.56377903]

What did Yellen mean by this?

https://twitter.com/spectatorindex/status/1713930337599013143

[Anonymous No.56377910]

>>56377896
Did you mean to reply to me? Your post doesn’t make sense

[Anonymous No.56377926]

I have averaged in 1 more put and with that I am done trading for October.

[Anonymous No.56377928]

>>56377903
We need more war and less social security

[Anonymous No.56377938]

>>56377903
>We can finance these wars! The goys will pay!

[Anonymous No.56377961]

>>56377926
I'm comfier

[Anonymous No.56377962]

>>56377903
she means you should buy her flippin bonds goyim!

[Anonymous No.56377964]

>>56377878
>retard
Love reading these sorts of cope posts. No argument left so lets just call the dude a retard. That'll show him!
It's the ultimate concession.

But just to really twist the wound, lets look at NVDA which has not grown its dividend at all these past five years. 100x return over the decade. Empirical evidence that dividend growth is retarded. If you want to really embarrass yourself, look up the chart for CELH.
Enjoy that KO dividend "growth". Make sure to drink some coke too, it's about as healthy as dividend growth investing.

[Anonymous No.56377969]

>>56377903
>default like 3 times this year
>oh yeah sure we can afford it
No...no we fucking can't

[Anonymous No.56377970]

My crab spreads I bought an hour ago are already +50%

[Anonymous No.56377973]

>>56377439
where'd your clothes go?

[Anonymous No.56377977]

whats happening in todays edition of up down up down?

[Anonymous No.56377983]

>>56377977

[Anonymous No.56377985]

>>56377977
I hoping a slow drift down to max pain

[Anonymous No.56377994]

>>56377977
The 60/40 portfolio continues to get heemed.

[Anonymous No.56378003]

please tell me that today's pump is just the death croak of the market and from here on there is only silence

[Anonymous No.56378014]

time to pump to 437.4x and get rejected.

[Anonymous No.56378016]

>>56378003
I know a dead cat when I see one!

[Anonymous No.56378017]

>>56377964
Look man you outed yourself as unintelligent when you implied 11% yield on cost dividends after 10 years was a bad investment

[Anonymous No.56378024]

>>56377903
I N F I N I T E

C A S H

[Anonymous No.56378029]

>>56377994
Time in the market beats timing the market friend!

[Anonymous No.56378033]

>>56377969
We just need to make sure the next war we get in is a profitable one.

[Anonymous No.56378050]

Why is the market up today?

I swear its so disconnected from reality, I just cannot fathom trying to make sense of this mess

[Anonymous No.56378053]

Nice little ramp & camp action to make extra sure I lose all my money

[Anonymous No.56378057]

>>56378033
That will never happen. you know these tards, they will want to rebuild shit for them and waste our fucking time and money.

[Anonymous No.56378058]

>>56377617
i see you post everyday. you like rsi? https://www.docdroid.net/1xzvnme/rsi-the-complete-guide-john-hayden-pdf
youre welcome. good idea to learn some wyckoff and volume spread analysis too to use volume to to your advantage

[Anonymous No.56378062]

>>56377964
>just ignore reliable growing income and invest it all into the next 100 bagger

[Anonymous No.56378063]

>>56377961
why?

[Anonymous No.56378075]

The fed can’t let us have a -2% day. The fomo will topple the house of cards.

[Anonymous No.56378076]

>fear is gripping the market
lol. lmao.

[Anonymous No.56378086]

I'm a fucking pussy. Just sold UPRO >>56376612 for measly 0.8% profit. Think I'm gonna dump TQQQ too.

[Anonymous No.56378090]

Bought a smidge of SCHD.

[Anonymous No.56378092]

>>56378017
Reread my last post. If you want to keep replying to me with this absolute cope then I'll continue laughing at you.
The unfortunate truth is that dividend investors tend to average approximately 90 IQ. With exception for the small minority sitting 2 standard deviations above the mean, most dividend investors have poor reading comprehension. They can't understand sarcasm. Most jokes go over their tiny heads. They think that ad hominem is a legitimate debate tactic.
They legitimately believe that dividends are a signal which offers fundamental insights towards the future potential of a companies prospects - and really I think that says it all.

For every MSFT, there are 5 other bombed out shitcos that used to be dividend aristocrats, until one day suddenly they weren't anymore...
Meanwhile you're missing out on massive segments of the investable universe. At least you're outperforming the bond investors I suppose. lol.

[Anonymous No.56378095]

There are people itt who don’t understand yield on cost

[Anonymous No.56378097]

https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/recession-increasingly-unlikely-wsj-economist-survey-finds

Recession cancelled bros, up only from here. Remember to keep buying and never sell.

[Anonymous No.56378099]

>>56378076
I couldn't tell

[Anonymous No.56378107]

>>56377424
Rite Aid just declared bankruptcy
https://www.nytimes.com/2023/10/15/business/rite-

[Anonymous No.56378112]

>>56378092
Nah dividend payers are a lot more stable and easier to pick than the next 100 bagger. I’m not trying to convince you though because the market needs suckers like you

[Anonymous No.56378113]

>>56378076
what vix is 17

[Anonymous No.56378121]

>>56378095
You're better off not understanding. Just another stupid metric for your dumb ass to over analyze and end up selling.

[Anonymous No.56378123]

>>56378107
those ice cream sales didn't save them after all

[Anonymous No.56378130]

>>56378003
I'm not expecting a quick crash.

[Anonymous No.56378136]

>>56378003
Oh sweet little bobo don't you get tired of playing on the losing team?

[Anonymous No.56378139]

Bobo, are you ok? So bobo, are you ok? Are you ok bobo?

[Anonymous No.56378140]

Hello.

[Anonymous No.56378145]

>>56378139
yes
https://www.marketwatch.com/investing/bond/tmubmusd30y?countryCode=BX

[Anonymous No.56378148]

>>56378130
If that chart materializes then the stock market will be the least of our worries.

[Anonymous No.56378152]

>>56378076
>“Be greedy when others are fearful blablabla”

[Anonymous No.56378156]

>>56378139
yup.

[Anonymous No.56378162]

>>56378130
That's not really how that chart is meant to be applied.

[Anonymous No.56378161]

>>56378014
>437
Inc

[Anonymous No.56378166]

>>56378107
Nice link bitch

[Anonymous No.56378173]

>>56378130
these overlay charts make me laugh the hardest

[Anonymous No.56378175]

>>56378162
>resolution

[Anonymous No.56378177]

>TLT
>TMF

[Anonymous No.56378179]

>>56378112
GE was so, so stable. lmao. Then 2017 happened. Where's that divvy growth now?
Need I name more?

I'm sorry that your little brain is incapable of looking at more than one metric. It's quite unfortunate that you're incapable of reading an income statement to see fundamental real growth, and instead are forced to rely on some magical dividend number that we all know has definitely never been manipulated at all by sketchy businesses to draw in suckers like you.
I could go on all day if you want. The list of failures that your cult has chased and held as they flung off the precipice into that pit of doom that they call dividend cuts appears seemingly endless throughout the years.

[Anonymous No.56378180]

>>56378177
TBD WEN?!

[Anonymous No.56378181]

>>56378003
>>56378130
>>56378136
The market has been going down since July. Most likely it swings up october-november, then shits the bed in december, little pumpy in january and then a shittastic shittening in february-march where it bottoms out.

Wall Street will call this dump to 12k on the NDAP a recession, the Fed will call it healthy pullback, you will call it iron hands hodl as you throw more money into your monetarily decreasing portfolio.

The market will bull up again to 14,000 come july 2024 but continue to be shitty into september 2024 going back to 13,000 before the BIDEN BONANZA begins and the market makes a giant 20% gain between September 25th, 2024 to 15,600 and November 3rd, 2024. It will then have another healthy widdle pullbackarino to 14,000 as all the turmpie stocks dumpie like in 2020. Jim Brandon will assume his term in January 2025, then resign for 'health reasons' in September 2025 allowing Kamloops to run the country into the group for almost 12 years, leaving office as the most unpopular (but somehow, re-elected) president in 2037. By this time it will be illegal outside of red states to detain negros invading your household. White liberals will mass migrate to texas, florida and Kentucky voting for democratic politicians. By the end of president Youngkin's second term in 2045 the market will be at 50,000 and the USA will be a conservative 45% white, mostly becaise of large scale palestinian (they are white) and ukrainian migration.

[Anonymous No.56378185]

>>56378130
>his coming was foretold in ancient murals

[Anonymous No.56378186]

>>56378003
Santa rally baby

[Anonymous No.56378187]

>>56377616
Damn that's lucky. I need to do 3 *things* a week (either apply or inquire at places) and keep logs AND enter all of those logs into the form each week. It sucks... I just ant the gibs

[Anonymous No.56378189]

>>56378050
>another retard who thinks the market is a reflection of current events and not just the value of the largest companies in the country who are all posting record profits

[Anonymous No.56378191]

>>56377428
And if you'd have purchased BTC in 2012 you'd be up 142563%

ur a retard fagat.

[Anonymous No.56378202]

>>56378179
Yes you do need to name more. There’s only a couple examples of dividend kings like T and GE that have turned out terribly. Now let’s check out your speculative growth strategy and see if we have any losers. Huh that’s weird only a very very very tiny fraction of stocks end up becoming 100 baggers. The fact is dividends and growth are important. You flew into a rage when I posted the 10 year history of Microsoft and why dividend growth can be a great thing.

[Anonymous No.56378209]

Friendly reminder to plan accordingly.

[Anonymous No.56378211]

good afternoon I had chicken and dumplings for lunch with steamed carrots

[Anonymous No.56378215]

>>56378209
Shit, idbwsotc

[Anonymous No.56378217]

>>56378181
Damn you're smart. Unfortunately I'm very dumb so I'll just keep buying and never selling. Sorry hahahaha!

[Anonymous No.56378218]

>>56378181
>By the end of president Youngkin's second term
Lol

[Anonymous No.56378219]

>>56378191
What does that have to do with demonstrating the importance of dividend growth and how buying a stock with a less than 1% yield can compound into a stock with an 11% dividend yield on cost after as little as a decade.

[Anonymous No.56378221]

>>56378209
Oh fuck I hold stock in some of those companies.

[Anonymous No.56378225]

muslims do not deserve to live on this planet with us

buy ESLT

[Anonymous No.56378227]

WHAT THE FUCK WAS TAHT

[Anonymous No.56378228]

Oh god this is a big one

[Anonymous No.56378230]

>>56378227
AAAAAAAA

[Anonymous No.56378231]

that was the top for today, next stop spy 200

[Anonymous No.56378234]

>>56378217
that's cheating

[Anonymous No.56378236]

Why does the "economy" suddenly care about the reverse repo dumping? Who gives a shit.

[Anonymous No.56378237]

>>56378227
kikegames

[Anonymous No.56378238]

>>56378227
ruggening

[Anonymous No.56378243]

>>56377616
>he thinks the nigress DIE hire would have actually done her job and called and verified
Kek

[Anonymous No.56378245]

>>56378236
because it means treasury yields are going to spike and risk premiums for stocks get readjusted by algos

[Anonymous No.56378246]

>>56378162
ommitting the long depression following reconstruction.
tfw wages haven't changed in over 100 years
https://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/currency-converter/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daIMIv8perM

[Anonymous No.56378249]

>>56378227
>>56378228
>>56378230
zoom out

>>56378225
TKD

[Anonymous No.56378250]

>>56378236
>stocks up Interest down
>interest up Stocks down

Not quite but close to "simple as"

[Anonymous No.56378255]

>>56378227
it's because I opened the thread and posted about my lunch

[Anonymous No.56378260]

>>56378227
Fears around a broader conflict in the Middle East remain but have toned down from earlier, despite Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amirabdollahian tweeting, after meeting counterparts in Turkey and elsewhere:
>Underlined the need to immediately stop Zionist crimes and murder in Gaza and to dispatch humanitarian aid. I stressed that time is running out for political solutions; probable spread of war in other fronts is approaching unavoidable stage.
Interestingly, he rewrote the tweet after initially writing:
>The time for political solutions is running out and the possible expansion of the war on other fronts is approaching the inevitable stage.
There is certainly some nuance there but officials from Iran have really be rattling the sabres over the past two days. Meanwhile, the US and even Russia appear to be coaxing all sides towards restraint.

[Anonymous No.56378263]

>>56378249
>he doesn't watch 1 minute candlesticks while fucking with leveraged ETFs

[Anonymous No.56378266]

>>56378236
The market pretends things that matter don't until until it stops and the mattering is priced in.

[Anonymous No.56378268]

>>56378130
Ok, but:

[Anonymous No.56378270]

>>56378260
>>56378227
https://www.forexlive.com/news/cable-climbs-to-the-highs-of-the-day-as-we-wait-for-middle-east-news-20231016/

[Anonymous No.56378278]

>>56378263
>leveraged ETFs
Thank you for donating to Wall Street.

[Anonymous No.56378279]

>>56378227
>>56378228
>>56378230
anons...

[Anonymous No.56378281]

Just dumped TQQQ at breakeven. Paper hands. 0.5% profit today guess Ill take it.

[Anonymous No.56378283]

>>56378268
more like this at best case scenario

[Anonymous No.56378289]

>>56378218
The asian vote really swung virginia for him, while many hispanics voted for him in hopes he would deport the indians. Unfortunately he did not, but the good economy and his control over voting machines ensured he won a second term with 50.1% of the vote as the democrats were divided between Hunter Biden's supporters and Joe Kennedy III's supporters, leading to Biden running third party to spite Kennedy. In 2046 Chelsea Clinton fulfilled her mother's dream of being the first white woman elected to a full term as president without previously being vice president.

[Anonymous No.56378291]

>>56378279
0dte ATM spy calls are at $17.
Holy shit people just love throwing their money away. They day is already half over even!

[Anonymous No.56378296]

>>56378202
I'm getting kind of tired, so instead enjoy some assigned reading:
https://seekingalpha.com/article/3901726-fate-of-49-dividend-aristocrats-of-early-1990s-may-give-you-nightmares

And before you think to yourself - maybe it's possible to simply sell when the dividend cut happens. I hope you are smart enough to understand that the collapse often happens before the dividend cut. In fact, the dividend cut often marks the bottom and creates a buying opportunity:
https://www.barrons.com/articles/when-dividend-aristocrats-lose-their-status-their-returns-often-improve-51581592501

While it's not an aristocrat, this same trend was witnessed just this year with INTC. The fact is that dividend investors are relatively unintelligent, and their portfolios along with the passive dividend ETFs tend to become forced sellers when companies cut the divvy. Forced selling is more often than not a buying opportunity. It's like when a store has a closing sale - all merch must go, at any price.
You are willfully paying a fools premium, when the whole goal is to get a discount.

>Huh that’s weird only a very very very tiny fraction of stocks end up becoming 100 baggers.
This, again, displays your complete lack of knowledge. The nature of outperformers is that eventually they will grow into a larger percentage of your overall portfolio until the point where they control your entire performance. It does not matter if 99 of 100 fail. That one singular winner is enough to carry the entire portfolio to massive gains. This is the modern tech VC strategy, although to be clear I'd oppose buying dogshit ponzis with intent to flip them on unsuspecting retail investors via future SPACs/IPOs. Conceptually though, it's a solid idea.

[Anonymous No.56378298]

I have reached a new higher ATH. +460% YTD

[Anonymous No.56378303]

Thanks mumu I was getting thirsty

[Anonymous No.56378304]

>>56378298
prove it

[Anonymous No.56378314]

>>56377438
A black swan taking a big fat shit on Xi jinping's lawn?

[Anonymous No.56378317]

Its a bloodbath

[Anonymous No.56378325]

>>56378296
Yea you’re still not doing a very good job of dispelling the stable dividend fact. Growth stocks that have gone to shit number in the 90 percentile

[Anonymous No.56378337]

QQQ GO BACK DOWN TO $367 YOU WORTHLESS PIECE OF SHIT!

[Anonymous No.56378339]

>>56378304
I actually can't because I'm on CMC except by showing that I deposited $1,800 and now have over $10,000

[Anonymous No.56378341]

did a mad wagie just leak buyout info?

[Anonymous No.56378352]

>>56378341
What ticker?

[Anonymous No.56378356]

>>56378352
the one on the top left of the photo anon...

[Anonymous No.56378358]

>>56378352

[Anonymous No.56378361]

>>56378352
TTOO, I'm not sure if its real or if its just someone trying to create an exit pump though since I've never used glassdoor. The CEO recently did some fag shit where he called an early earnings call, then did a reverse split and didn't even show up for the call.

[Anonymous No.56378363]

>>56378341
Wait is that bullish or bearish?

[Anonymous No.56378373]

>>56378363
yup

[Anonymous No.56378374]

yup satisfying

[Anonymous No.56378378]

>>56378363
its biogarbage so its either legit bagger or legit exist liquidity. Small price. I won't touch.

[Anonymous No.56378381]

>>56378361
Yea I'm not investing in that pajeet pump n dump scam stock

[Anonymous No.56378383]

>>56378373
WHY WON'T ETRADE LET ME BUY OPTIONS ON IT

[Anonymous No.56378386]

>buy SQQQ
>stay glued to the screen for hours watching it crab
>shit's not going anywhere so i go out to have a run
>come back
>see there was a yuge flashdump that already got bought back
>check portfolio
>shit stopped 3bp away from my take profit
>red again

[Anonymous No.56378392]

>>56378383
It just had a reverse split last week

[Anonymous No.56378394]

This bitch ready yet for a slurpin?

[Anonymous No.56378401]

>>56378394

Ticker?

[Anonymous No.56378403]

>>56378374
bear babes

[Anonymous No.56378408]

>>56378401
0rqe

[Anonymous No.56378409]

>>56378392
Apparently I have to call them to do it. I'm not doing that.

[Anonymous No.56378412]

Bobo are you just gonna lay there and take this shit?

[Anonymous No.56378415]

>>56378325
If you're not even going to pretend to put in the effort of reading my posts, I'm just going to resume laughing at you. lol.

On the off-chance you're actually this mentally deficient:
0 x 0.9 = 0
100 x 0.1 = 10
0 + 10 = 10x (total return)

You were so hyped up over this 10x decade long MSFT return yet it turns out the literal best dividend aristocrat you can come up with matches the mathematical average performance of the blind growth investor portfolio you're shitting on.
And to be clear, I've never even been proposing that blind growth is a genius strategy. It's purely for the sake of counterargument to prove that your dividend strategy is sub par. The reality is that you should activate those sleepy braincells and think logically about what the future might hold if purchasing growth names. You should look for stocks that trade at great valuations. You should consider current valuation relative to history, relative to sector, relative to overall market. You should target profitability, as that is the one factor that really matters in the grand scheme of things. If there's a company that makes no money, and will not make money later - it is worthless.
My personal performance is well above any of these compounding rates mentioned over the timeframe I've been investing, with the exception of a long-term portfolio of 100% CELH. And I'm accounting for tax drag in my internal calculations, not the gross compounding rate that most people posting their brokerage statements hype up.

[Anonymous No.56378419]

there are muslims in this thread right now
disgusting

ESLT is on sale btw

[Anonymous No.56378425]

explosion

[Anonymous No.56378430]

>>56378419
I don't see any though

[Anonymous No.56378432]

I'm up ~9% on like $500 worth of BULZ. Should I sell out and stick it into something else or wait for earnings?

[Anonymous No.56378433]

JD brothers we have bottomed. I REPEAT WE HAVE BOTTOMED!

[Anonymous No.56378437]

>>56378425
wait yields are flattening? thats bullish!

[Anonymous No.56378438]

>>56378219
Because the only reason msft doesn't look horribly pathetic is the QE driven post GFC golden bull
>less than 1% yield can compound into a stock with an 11% dividend yield on cost after as little as a decade.
Only during periods of parabolic nominal growth, where growthchads will mog diviecucks, like I dunno, the last decade

[Anonymous No.56378443]

>>56378415
I’m not sure what blind growth fund you’re talking about that beat Microsoft’s total return. Are you adding in all of the new shares bought over that 10 year period with DRIP?

[Anonymous No.56378449]

>>56378425
WTF is that real?

[Anonymous No.56378456]

>FNKO

[Anonymous No.56378457]

>>56378443
Are you dripping or divvying ?

[Anonymous No.56378458]

>intrday MACD and RSI are high/overbought
>short cycle meme lines are crossing below long cycle meme line
>green candles
its going to dip and then violently climb in the last coupe hours isn't it?

[Anonymous No.56378460]

[Anonymous No.56378467]

Cattle spreads are seasonally taking off. Get in if you want to make it.

[Anonymous No.56378469]

>>56378438
I’m sorry but dividend growth does not only happen over periods of parabolic growth. For example warren buffets 1994 purchase of boring old Coca Cola yielded 30% on his initial investment last year. Sure three decades is a long time to wait but what’s the point of investing if you aren’t willing to be patient

[Anonymous No.56378470]

>>56378409
you can only buy adjusted options right now, 1 share deliverable.

[Anonymous No.56378473]

>>56378457
I have drip disabled but I use dividends to either purchase more of the underlying or more of another divvy stock

[Anonymous No.56378474]

>>56378415
here compare yourself
aapl no divvy is a 13x
zero accounting nonsense or risk adjustment
let your betters guide you dumbass

[Anonymous No.56378476]

>>56378470
Lol what? That's retarded.

[Anonymous No.56378478]

>>56378425
Long end is starting to rise which is uninverting the curve. People have been betting on the wrong thing, it's not the short end falling off a cliff and the long end coming down with it like in a pivot scenario, the long end is just going to keep on rising. Maybe even to something like 7%+.

[Anonymous No.56378485]

>>56378476
yeah, 1 for 100 reverse split was the dumbest thing

[Anonymous No.56378490]

[Anonymous No.56378494]

Tell me anon.
What do you see.
Do you see a double top?
Or do you see a cup and handle?
>pic related

[Anonymous No.56378496]

>>56378490
Why is the middle crab holding a piece of imitation crab meat?

[Anonymous No.56378499]

>>56378494
The meme chart with a slightly lower second top.

[Anonymous No.56378503]

>>56378494
i see the greatest heeming of our lifetimes about to happen

[Anonymous No.56378504]

>The share of consumers who think now is a good time to buy a home is at an all-time low, per Fannie Mae

>Credit card companies are racking up losses at the fastest pace in almost 30 years, outside of the Great Financial Crisis, according to Goldman Sachs

>Americans filed more than 39,000 bankruptcy cases in August, an 18% increase from the same point last year

>Corporations are buying back bonds this year at the slowest pace since 2009, per Bloomberg

>Last month, Target, $TGT, said it will close nine stores across the country after struggling with crime and safety threats at those locations. Target closed locations in New York City, Seattle, San Francisco and Portland.

>41% of U.S. adults with a side hustle needed the money to pay for everyday expenses, up from 31% in 2019, per BankRate

>Americans outside the wealthiest 20% of the country have run out of extra savings and now have less cash on hand than they did when the pandemic began, per Bloomberg

>Morgan Stanley, $MS: “Management commentary about theft and shoplifting has increased by 2.5x since pre-Covid levels as cost of living pressures continue to have broadening knock-on effects.”

>The US median down payment increased 11.3% year over year in the third quarter to $30,434, the highest ever, per Realtor. com

>Employees are more unhappy now than they were during the height of the COVID-19 pandemic, per Axios

>On average, homeowners are now allocating a staggering 35% of their wages to cover the various costs associated with owning a home, per ATTOM, the highest since 2007

>67% of those making $50,000 to $100,000 are living paycheck to paycheck, per Bankrate

>American workers can make it an average of 9.5 weeks without a paycheck, per Zippia

>Mortgage affordability in the US is at an all time low, per Bloomberg

>76% of U.S. adults who make less than $50,000 are living paycheck to paycheck, per PYMNTS

[Anonymous No.56378506]

>>56378494
A dip on the way to new highs

[Anonymous No.56378510]

>>56378469
>last year.
Yes, after the post GFC QE driven melt up. Think before posting, houses were going for under $80k in 94, you'd have over 30% "on cost" yield on a cardboard box bought in '94. Wow. Kill yourself you cuckold faggot

[Anonymous No.56378511]

>>56378496
Idk, but my 0DTE crab spreads aren't doing so hot at the moment

[Anonymous No.56378513]

Bobo are you ok? SO BOBO ARE YOU OK?????? ARE YOU OK BOBO? YOU'RE LOSING MONEY LIKE A STUPID IMBECILE!

[Anonymous No.56378523]

So has the whole retail investing craze just fallen out? Volumes have been really sad on the stuff I follow.

[Anonymous No.56378525]

>>56378513
He just took they day off is all, he called in sick but he told me he will be back to work soon enough as soon as he feels better

[Anonymous No.56378526]

>>56378510
> GFC QE driven melt up
I’m sorry but this isn’t relevant. My dividend stocks are golden because people keep buying lays potato chips and shopping at Costco

[Anonymous No.56378530]

>>56378478
Truly wise how long before the 3rd world collapses from lack of free money?

[Anonymous No.56378532]

>>56378525
>as soon as he feels better
Anon... I.

[Anonymous No.56378535]

>>56378162
Proof stock market is a ponzi scheme

[Anonymous No.56378536]

>>56378513
RIP Uncle Leon

>>56378523
What would you do if people tried to join in on your money making shenanigans ? Shake them off, continue as normal allowing midwits to influence your peddling ? Get psychotically mad and topple the whole thing ? Hard tosay really.

[Anonymous No.56378539]

>>56378510
Also you still don’t understand yield on cost because you keep comparing it to the total return of other things, in this case a cardboard box. That’s 30% of the initial investment returned in a single year through dividends.

[Anonymous No.56378542]

>>56378523
the 2020 pandemic was an absolute fever dream of hysteria of free money and people just buying up everything. people who dont know a thing about stocks just buying whatever only to get massively fucked over in the years to come. not to mention that 2022 was the worst years for stocks and bonds in the entire history of the stock market. you literally could not pick a worst time to invest (so far). so that just cause a lot of retail to cut their losses or become eternal bagholders

[Anonymous No.56378554]

>>56378513
Am I?
Check TLT and TMF.

[Anonymous No.56378569]

>>56378425
I want Megumin to uninvert the yield curve and release her warm explosion on my face and poorfolio

[Anonymous No.56378579]

lmao

[Anonymous No.56378586]

Boomer stock experts: you think J is a buy here?

[Anonymous No.56378588]

>>56378554
Playing with fire you are. Large loses you might have...

[Anonymous No.56378589]

>>56378579
most israelis are russian

[Anonymous No.56378592]

>>56378303
>>56378317
>>56378374
science has gone too far

[Anonymous No.56378596]

>>56378569
>Megumin
Huh, I never knew her name and assumed she was a Touhou character.

[Anonymous No.56378606]

Do you hate Jews or are you buying Elbit (ESLT)?

[Anonymous No.56378608]

Alex Jones is selling Bourbon now with hidden blacklight messages as an investment item, kek. He said he's running out of conspiracies that haven't turned out to be true.

He says he bets the bottles will sell for $1000 each in a few years. Is that really possible?
https://conspiracybourbon.com/

[Anonymous No.56378614]

I need TQQQ to hit 41.20 by eow

[Anonymous No.56378617]

>>56378608
probably not, still buying one though. mostly for the booze.

[Anonymous No.56378620]

>>56378504
You Danish cuz you sound like you're from COPEnhagen

[Anonymous No.56378631]

Why should I not just sell all my stock and buy BTC?

[Anonymous No.56378633]

>>56378608
Yes, the bourbon resale market is absolutely retarded and reddit/facebook boomers are treating bottles like funko pops, eventually this 30 dollar handle will be 300 dollars.

[Anonymous No.56378635]

my chart says this week is a red candle do with that as you see fit

[Anonymous No.56378638]

They are trying to find excuses to ease sanctions on Venezuela again

[Anonymous No.56378644]

>>56378638
that's how you know the oil market is fucked :^)

[Anonymous No.56378647]

>>56378638
Sanctions for what, they dindu nuffin

[Anonymous No.56378648]

>>56378631
Because you can instead buy GBTC for a discount to NAV. Or BITX for automatic leverage.

[Anonymous No.56378652]

>>56378443
>I’m not sure what blind growth fund you’re talking about that beat Microsoft’s total return.
I just made one, using your own hypothetical assumptions. I have no obligation to find you some random public market ETF that matched your single stock. I've already given plenty of stock-to-stock examples and also the logical analysis of the venture portfolio approach.
But if you really want to make your own comparison, I'm sure SOXX did pretty well over the same timeframe, or SOXL if you really want to push the limits of growth within the ETF format.
10x over 10 years is 25% CAGR, ignoring the tax drag of dividend reinvestment. At least for MSFT the tax drag is small since it's hardly a dividend stock. But we have anons in this very thread sitting on 20x or better returns from an NVDA hold. Personally my average holding duration is not that long so my best individual position in my portfolio right now is up 600%. It is not a dividend player, nor is it even a tech stock. My holding period is 2 years.

>>56378469
>Sure three decades is a long time to wait but what’s the point of investing if you aren’t willing to be patient
The cool thing about KO as an example is that it was still an aristocrat in 2000, and still is today. Inevitably, you fuckers always reach the point in any divvy bro shill campaign of making the Buffett KO purchase as an example of the beauty of yield on cost. Meanwhile, it's plain to see how that investment has fared for all the buffett followers these past two decades...
See, the thing about Buffett is he's a value investor. He does not give a fuck about dividends. He bought KO in the 90s because it was cheap, and in the years since then he hasn't bought more. Even his own stock, BRK, one of the largest in the public market, does not pay a dividend - instead it utilizes buybacks. lmao.

[Anonymous No.56378655]

>>56378526
>that destroys my argument so it's not relevant, ok!?
You are a homosexual.

[Anonymous No.56378657]

>>56378606
I ask again: is /smg/ antisemitic? Are you cheering this on?

[Anonymous No.56378660]

Oil just rugged, s&p following

[Anonymous No.56378662]

>>56378494
Double top
>>56378478
Not sure what you're insinuating but the long end crapping itself is very bad.

[Anonymous No.56378667]

>>56378606
>yes

What isan elbit

[Anonymous No.56378674]

SVIX chads we won. Just like I said we would

[Anonymous No.56378675]

>>56378660
bullish

[Anonymous No.56378676]

>>56378660
On no news?!

[Anonymous No.56378681]

>>56378539
>what is rental income
"On cost" is pathetic diviecuck copeposting, any investment looks good (looking in isolation) over the last 50 years due to breakneck debasement

[Anonymous No.56378682]

>>56378662
>Not sure what you're insinuating
something something higher for longer

[Anonymous No.56378683]

>>56378667
Israeli defense contractor. They do a lot of stuff, for example drones for the border patrol.

[Anonymous No.56378685]

I guessing I'm banned for mentioning investing in a commodity like bourbon instead of wheat, corn, orange juice, or nat gas because someone that tranny jannie doesn't likes name was in the paragraph

[Anonymous No.56378694]

>>56378647
sanctions for being commies and not chinese

[Anonymous No.56378705]

You guys are losing it.

[Anonymous No.56378708]

>>56378694
United states be like
>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T JUST RUN YOUR COUNTRY IN A STYLE OF GOVERNMENT WE DON'T AGREE WITH
>btw we need your oil

[Anonymous No.56378711]

I just woke up bobros and i just want to say....... I BEHEEMED MYSELF
I WAS UP 40% LAST FRIDAY AND NOW IM ONLY 5% AHEAD AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA FUCKING FUCK IM SO PISSED RN

[Anonymous No.56378717]

>>56378705
We lost it a long time ago if your talking about our sanity

[Anonymous No.56378728]

>>56378608
That's pretty cheap for bourbon. Is it actually any good? Does it have chemicals that will turn you gay?
>>56378676
It's all fucked. There's your news.

[Anonymous No.56378733]

>>56378717
>>56378705
Sanity has no benefit in a clown world friends.

[Anonymous No.56378744]

>>56378728
Why was that post deleted?

[Anonymous No.56378748]

>>56378728
Idk I just saw a commercial I haven't bought any yet, I assume they filter out the chemicals that's turning the frogs (and people) gay and/or into trannies

[Anonymous No.56378764]

>>56378705
not today...not today.

[Anonymous No.56378766]

>>56378744
I deleted it

[Anonymous No.56378768]

>>56378744
Apparently Alex Jones is selling cheap "conspiracy theory" themed liquor and telling his audience it's an investment.
Sounds about par for him desu.

[Anonymous No.56378781]

>>56378685
idk why people think that's a good idea. If things are rough and I'm strapped for cash I'm making screwdrivers with cheap vodka I'm not drinking bourbon.

[Anonymous No.56378786]

>>56378685
janny must be a recovering alcohol lmao

[Anonymous No.56378798]

>amzn

[Anonymous No.56378800]

>>56378768
Honestly, seems about par for /SMG/.

[Anonymous No.56378803]

>>56378781
Idk if they off AJ in a coming civil war or whatever, an unopened bottle of that might be a collectors item and in 10 years a fetch a ridiculous price who knows

[Anonymous No.56378809]

>volume
>oscillators
>the mystery widget
Nothing likes this. Not touching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhqzH_ALzZ4

[Anonymous No.56378810]

>>56378685
product advertisement isn't allowed, you would be better off avoiding links to e-merchandise / order catalogs

[Anonymous No.56378824]

>>56378810
I just thought it was interesting he was selling it as an 'investment item' and kind of funny is all

[Anonymous No.56378826]

>>56378652
>it was still an aristocrat in 2000, and still is today
Good.
>>56378694
Chinese at this point are quasi-fascist/NatSoc but with zero trust existing between the government/corpos and the people.
They're also trying to create the Jeremy Lin supersoldier, so they've got that going for them.

[Anonymous No.56378828]

>>56378744
jannie is a gay frog

[Anonymous No.56378831]

>>56378809
>the mystery widget
Redpill me on the widget.

[Anonymous No.56378833]

anyone still holding IEP? if so, why

[Anonymous No.56378835]

>>56378826
>Good
Yes, underperforming is great.

[Anonymous No.56378837]

Rare glimpse inside my mostly passive income over the past 2 days.

[Anonymous No.56378848]

>>56378835
KO over performed
>b…but it didn’t 1000x like the stock I didn’t start buying until it’s market cap was $1T

[Anonymous No.56378849]

>>56378833
it's the standard retard-dividend trap

[Anonymous No.56378850]

>>56378837
Are you the fat fuck who makes burping vids?

[Anonymous No.56378855]

>>56378850
Yes

[Anonymous No.56378856]

>>56378837
provide feet pic sample

[Anonymous No.56378868]

>>56378837
I'll never understand degenerates...

[Anonymous No.56378876]

>>56378831
It's a thing I found I don't know how it's calculated and I don't know what it does but i put it on my chart because sometimes it makes for a good bullshit check on the other ones.

[Anonymous No.56378879]

>>56378874
>>56378874
>>56378874
>>56378874
Central baking

[Anonymous No.56378883]

>>56378848
It has quite literally underperformed the entire S&P 500, adjusted for dividends, over a period of 20 years now. Perhaps that chart didn't make it clear enough that I was accounting for dividend reinvestment. I apologize for that. If you ignore the modest dividend then KO is up approximately 60% over the past two decades.

Feel free to construct your own chart. You're welcome to try and find some flaw in the calculations trading view makes for dividend reinvestment comparisons.

[Anonymous No.56378887]

>no mercy
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=owxorw2IsyU

[Anonymous No.56378896]

Are we gonna get some movement this last hour or not?

[Anonymous No.56378910]

>>56378833
I sold some IEP puts around NAV when the short report first released, stock dumped below $20, and the premiums shot to the moon. That was free money.
The problem with long term IEP holding is that it's sort of a ponzi. The higher the theoretical dividend yield, the more dilution. It's a death spiral.

[Anonymous No.56378935]

Power hour?

[Anonymous No.56378963]

>>56378896
we're up treefiddy from open. You are witnessing all-star caliber usury. Are you not entertained ?

[Anonymous No.56380088]

Hey guys someone a few days ago mentioned something about gamma and using it to trade.

Iv been looking around on youtube and it seems pretty based, do any of you guys know a good site to find info on a stocks gamma?

[Anonymous No.56380114]

>>56377471
Lol imagine being this much of a gaywad you imagine cocks everywhere.

[Anonymous No.56380140]

>>56378090
This picture is somewhat unsettling and gives off pedo vibes.

[Anonymous No.56380737]

>>56380088
We moved to the next thread: >>56378879

[Anonymous No.56381083]

>>56378638
they are buying oil from them

[Anonymous No.56381107]

Banked
>>56381078