where does /biz/ store its crypto?

[Anonymous No.56275165]

Following the second big Ledger shitfest that happened a few months ago, it has become clear that it's probably only a matter of time until we will get rekt by Ledger "cold" wallets. There are LOADS of alternatives, but which ones can we trust? Personally I've been looking at Ngrave Zero, but it's hard to justify that $400 pricetag.

[Anonymous No.56275189]

>>56275165

How is the Trezor anon?

[Anonymous No.56275205]

>>56275165
Ledger up mi arse

[Anonymous No.56275235]

>>56275189
Unfortunately not my pic, but it seems like it would be the next best pick for a wallet judging by market share alone.
No Bluetooth and open source firmware both have pretty big pros and cons. Ledger's offering fit my needs very well but the last fiasco broke the camel's back.

[Anonymous No.56275259]

>>56275165
why is trezor such a pain in the ass to set up your picture?

[Anonymous No.56275299]

>>56275259
Because then only the willing can do the needful.

[Anonymous No.56277183]

Keystone wallet - it’s open sourced

[Anonymous No.56277335]

>>56275235

Yea I haven't trust ledger since the leak.

[Anonymous No.56277355]

>>56277183

Seems alright. One of the options I like.

[Anonymous No.56277370]

>oh hey anon
>what's that, you'd like to deposit some none kyc traceable criptoo into an account from a cold wallet
>ooooooop
>siiiiiiiiiie
Don't say I didn't warn yous

[Anonymous No.56277402]

>>56275165
I like bitbox02

[Anonymous No.56277480]

>>56275165
I'll keep my ledger. I've moved since the addresses leaked anyways.

[Anonymous No.56278134]

>>56275235
>>56275205
care to elaborate? just recently got me a ledger nano s, should i be worried?

[Anonymous No.56278146]

>>56275165
webull

[Anonymous No.56278189]

>>56277335
>>56278134
a couple months back, ledger announced a new feature that would allow centralized backup of your seedphrase. Most people did not like this and felt it was a compromise of security. Then their dumbass employees rationalized it by admitting that the potential to backdoor their devices was always possible since the beginning anyway.

[Anonymous No.56278306]

>>56278189
ah ok.
So its that recovery though provided id thing? guess i just won't provide an id for that and will try to not lose my keys

[Anonymous No.56278337]

Fuck those dumb fucks at ledger, I purchased a stax last December with eth and it's vaporware

[Anonymous No.56278339]

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[Anonymous No.56278344]

>>56278339
how many times will jannies tongue his anus? find out next week!

[Anonymous No.56278656]

>>56278306
no all ledger devices are possible to backdoor because the secure chip inside the ledger is closed source. A ledger dev admitted this on twitter, doesn't matter what firmware or version of ledger live you use. I'm surprised that the whole scandal seemed to blow over after a few weeks.

[Anonymous No.56278673]

I don't store crypto. It's a dying market, only useful for flipping decent gains using large amounts of liquidity. I never hold anything longer than a month before flipping it for something else.

[Anonymous No.56278696]

>>56278656
Not entirely correct, he's saying that it is possible if they uploaded compromised firmware. It can't be done without new firmware, and it definitely can't be done when your wallet isn't even plugged in.

[Anonymous No.56278770]

>>56278696
iirc he said that the customer must ultimately trust ledger anyway because any previous firmware could have included a backdoor.
Everyone was fixated on not using the new service and not updating their firmware.
However, Ledger announcing that they would include this feature in a new version does not rule out that it could have already been done secretively in the past. This is literally what the deleted tweet stated, that ledger could have done this at anytime in the past regardless.

[Anonymous No.56278820]

“Technically speaking, it is and always has been possible to write firmware that facilitates key extraction. You have always trusted Ledger not to deploy such firmware whether you knew it or not.”

[Anonymous No.56278854]

>>56275165
Cheap walmart airgapped laptop (wifi/bluetooth antenna removed), camera/mic/speakers removed, usb ports destroyed, and chassis glued shut. Seed memorized in my head. I manually type signed tx data on my hot wallet machine when I want to do a tx, which isn’t often. Been doing it this way since 2013. These cold storage wallet gizmos seem good for normies though.

[Anonymous No.56278855]

>>56275165
I keep my entire net worth on a Chinese centralized exchange.

[Anonymous No.56278903]

>>56277370
https://bisq.network/
This is a good alternative for smaller amounts if exchanges are being kyc jews

[Anonymous No.56281005]

>>56275165
I use a trezor for everything I can
ledger for what I cannot use trezor (Kadena)

[Anonymous No.56281187]

>>56278820
this is true for every hardware wallet out there, no exceptions.
hardware wallets are designed for convenience over security.

[Anonymous No.56281202]

>>56275165
Ledger Nano S
best hw, simple, works. no fucking color ou touch screen, no fucking bluetooth

[Anonymous No.56281313]

>>56281202
is it even possible to buy them anymore?

[Anonymous No.56281780]

>>56281313
no I don't think so, but I think the Nano S plus is good as well. it doesn't have gadgets/gimmicks, just more memory, allowing for more apps at same time. I have one also and it's really good

[Anonymous No.56281817]

I just use 12 words lol

[Anonymous No.56281836]

>>56281817
lol give me the first 2 for the lolz

[Anonymous No.56281874]

>>56281836
trumpet
mobile

[Anonymous No.56281883]

Coinbase has done a better job than I could have, so far.

[Anonymous No.56281890]

>>56281883
Not your keys not your coins, NIGGA

[Anonymous No.56281898]

>>56281874
Let's go for the bruteforce