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ITS OVER

>> No.56185920

>>56185897

how come nothing is happening?

>> No.56185935

>no data before 2006
wow 2 DATA POINTS fuck off with your bait

>> No.56185959

>>56185897
>lots of bankruptcies might mean a not so strong economy
Kek the brainwashing is so effective that they have to try and explain bankruptcies are not good to retards who think the fed pivot is right around the corner and will save their bags.

>> No.56185983

>>56185897
Cope more bobotard, the mass bankruptcies were already priced in. Stay poor!

>> No.56186001

Wow guys we might even see new lows compared to the ftx bottom, am I right? Better start shorting right now, this is what the smart man in the big short movie did I think

>> No.56186012

>>56186001
I bought PLTR outs for this very reason

>> No.56186017

>>56186012
Puts*

>> No.56186031

Everything going according to plan. That's literally why the FED is raising interest.

>> No.56186072

>>56185897
fake and gay

>> No.56186080

So based on the pic..was covid real or was it a scapegoat to prevent the economy from collapsing?

>> No.56186131

>>56185897
>double top on bankruptcies
We're all gonna be rich, aren't we?

>> No.56186204

>>56185920
There are countries right now that have 100% YoY inflation rate and yet their populace is satiated distracted to do anything about it.

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>>56186131
not before some mild pain, i believe.

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56186265

>>56185897

>> No.56186389
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56186389

>Bunch of bumfuck retarded startups fail in a cut throat market where corporations own everything
This is oh so very sad.
Won't stop accumulating my KAVA, BTC And KAS until 2024, though. Won't stop me from trading until things finally collapse thanks to capitalism, either. Seethe.

>> No.56186672

>>56185920
Bubbles pop. Everything's about to crash down

>> No.56186705
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56186705

>>56185897
i hate paige hill
>> who is paige hill?
paige hill is scum.
>> my name is paige hill
>> i am scum

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>>56186227
>mild pain

>> No.56186790

>>56185920
Give it a minute will uou?

>> No.56186955

rolling for bullrun

>> No.56187033
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>>56186955
Oh goodness he done did it.

>> No.56187065

>>56185920
In the last 15~ years jews legitimately managed to dumb down people en masse and irreparably damaged societal relations to avoid another OWS-type movement from happening from all the discord between the potential participants.

>> No.56187075

>>56187065
>>56185920
UAW strikes

>> No.56187090

>>56186080
whatever the answer to that question is, COVID kicked the can 3 years further but the chickens are coming home to roost

>> No.56187098

this government shutdown is going to happen at the worst possible time (on purpose) isn't it?

>> No.56187100

>>56186080
If you still don't know the answer to that question I don't know what to tell you.

>> No.56187143

>>56186955
>>56187033

Let’s goo

>> No.56187313

>>56187065
>>56187075
I think strikes, could be a swan event of some type, that hasnt been a thing for decades, but inflation will bring them back
Unions in general could make a comeback

>> No.56187522

>>56187065
not irreparably

>> No.56187529

>>56187313
the thing is, unions are controlled assets as well, just like nonprofits. (IWW is based though)

>> No.56187570

>>56185920
I’ve heard that many things take two more weeks

>> No.56187647

>>56187529
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNv7NIvyOuU

>> No.56187656

>>56186955
We are so back.

>> No.56187668

>>56187065
you just don't get it anon, black lives matter

>> No.56187772

>>56186001
>Providing liquidity in any direction
Lol

>> No.56187777

>>56187570

Its gonna be two years at this point.

>> No.56187795

>>56187777
Checked

>> No.56187806

>>56187098
How does a government affect the market? Oh wait I forgot America is corporatism.

>> No.56187816

>>56186955
checked and based

>> No.56187822

>>56187777
CHECKED
TWO MORE YEARS

>> No.56187834

>>56185920
Agenda 2030.
Globalists MUST maintain the illusion that everything is fine, so we buy into their scheme and willingly become slaves

Else their whole structure is shown for what it is: a tower of lies about to violently implode.

>> No.56187842

>>56187668
Hopefully people have woke up since then and realize whats going on. then they wont be able to play that card on us again.

>> No.56188006

>>56187834
What do?

>> No.56188039

>>56188006
Sell your bitcoins
I dreamed I rolled the jackpot at freebitco.in, yielding a two-digit amount of whole bitcoins.
>Meaning that according to calculations, BTC will plummet in value to 20 dollars
>probably even down to 2 dollars per BTC

>> No.56188108

>>56188039
What about home prices?

>> No.56188206

>>56188108
Not dreamed about it yet.
Also, I'm working to make myself a public figure. If I get impostors, seek the one that has been confirmed by the world skeptics society

>> No.56188216

>>56187313
"Spam Strike" Looms After Hormel Minnesota Workers Reject Contract Offer

https://www.zerohedge.com/economics/spam-strike-looms-after-hormel-minnesota-workers-reject-contract-offer

>> No.56188235

k, sure. I'm so fucking tired of doomer bullshit claiming the economy is going to crash. welcome to every single fucking year since 2008 and it hasn't happened. I'm not even saying it won't or it can't, it's just so fucking tiresome to see the same bullshit "LE CHECK OUT THIS KEY INDICATOR THAT SAYS THING BAD IT'S OVER!!!!" and then nothing happens once again.

>> No.56188291

>>56185920
Look at the Nasdaq Anon.

>> No.56188297

>>56185897
I already sold all my stocks and am only holding cash and BTC

I'm ready for the crash

>> No.56188349

paul volker said inflation is cured by causing bankruptcies. this is a feature, not a bug. also...markets bottom before these indicators peaked

>> No.56188433

>>56188291
Futures are green. What's there to look at?

>> No.56188593

>>56185920
because govt insider trading, Wall Street Silicon Valley are biggest crooks in history of humanity — all to enslave you and organize blm riots to destroy your peaceful city

>> No.56188603

>>56188433
look at the real chart

>> No.56188617

>>56188349
The market hasn't bottomed yet though. It's just finished making the double-top.

>> No.56188652

>>56186265
>1982
>2001
>2007
just picking a few of the horribly wrong things on this. please stop posting this shit image.

>> No.56188805

>>56188603
What's going on in the real chart? Sorry for asking dumb questions I don't stonk and don't understand charts.

>> No.56188865

>>56185920
>how come nothing is happening?
CBDC isn't ready yet. Controlled demolition will happen when it is.

>> No.56188899

how do I short this bankruptsy moon?

>> No.56188910

>>56188865
how does CBDC fix it though? wouldn't the situation be exactly the same only digital?

>> No.56188918
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>>56185897
>>56185920
>triple top
OH SHIT IM DUMPING IT

TRIPLE TOP, POP, ITS DONE
247 trading dumping through your folio
How I shorted the top never stopped you lost control
Dumping in a blaze of fire, candle through my bones
OH SHIT IM DUMPING IT

Out of the green, ending the pump
Bobo coming through like fuck did I hear a swan
Man I don't know but it made you so depleted
Shorts creeping up without showing you jack
Sudden pumps from below, you think you got the moon
You're riding that green until I sell too soon
You're coming back slurping that dip
Save your money wagie, I'm downsizing your shift

OH SHIT IM DUMPING IT
Hell yeah fuck yeah I feel like bogging him
Alright that's tight, what it's like to profit this

Bear market shot down your chart like a hellish flame
Choke on the wreckage exhale your acceptance
Permabulls are so fucking weird
Trying to lighten the mood over here
But they can't cause the wall's way too sheer
My red candle dropping zeros so hard you call me a seer

Lower highs and lower lows
Fuck what you thought thought summer meant
This bubble popping I slammed my dick in it
Sell while you can or bleed like the damned
Ain't a chart zoomed out enough to catch this
Knife straight to zero, no more heroes
Satoshi is dead and you swim in red

TAKING BULLTARDS DOWN
ALL I SEE ARE CANDLES
FOMOBRAINS TRYING TO GET A HANDLE
STUDY THE CHARTS THIS IS THE MEGABART

OH SHIT IM DUMPING IT

>> No.56189022

>>56185920
How many charts like that do you need? The Jew media won't tell you it's happening until a year after it's happened.

>> No.56189075

>>56186204
Which first world countries have 100% YoY??

>> No.56189078

>>56185897
Eric Krown talking about this chart.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NT0oT7VM8E

>> No.56189142

>>56189075
Canada and Britain

>> No.56190239

>>56188918
Best post on /biz/ right now

>> No.56190265

>>56185897
Listen man I'm just gonna keep SCHLURPIN' and SURFIN' ahaha
>but the econo-
Not for a lack of trying, but I just really don't care

>> No.56190362

>>56188918
easily greatest post in a long time here.

>> No.56190395

>>56185897
Unironically this is weakness leaving the economy. If a company can't survive two years of historically normal interest rates it has no business surviving and is stealing efficiency from the system like a parasitic zombie.

>> No.56190408

>>56185897
That's LITERALLY what JPow wanted when raising rates.

>> No.56190416

>>56187647
> Linking an Msnbc video instead of posting a SS of an article. On an image board
You have to go back

>> No.56190979

>>56187834
That's fucking stupid, though. It would be far better for them to cripple the market, sacrifice some top politicians as the face of the crisis, and then offer UBI as an empathic solution, forever chaining people and their behaviour to their gibs.

>> No.56190991

>>56185897
>historically followed by huge market crashes
>out of his TWO historical examples one barely crashed and recovered immediately

>> No.56190992

>>56190408

He hasn't been shy about saying they basically want a small recession to readjust things

>> No.56190993

>>56185920
two more weeks

>> No.56191027

>>56190992
we should have entered a recession in 2020 but covid hoax postponed it. we are far overdue for one. it's a part of capitalism that has to take place. capitalism has to literally have little micro collapses to keep going.

>> No.56191063

>>56191027

Yes, and they know that. They traded a lot to avoid a full on depression or major recession in 2020, and they are now trying to pay for that by trading in a small recession. But that's a tricky game, things can get out of hand and we could be right back to QE.

>> No.56191408

>>56185897
real estate crash when

>> No.56191448
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>>56191408
soon

>> No.56191459

>>56191408
2 weeks

>> No.56191477

>>56188039
>economy in the shitter
>"I am dollar bullish"
just end your life so we don't have to read any more of your stupid takes holy fuck
how fucking retarded can someone get

>> No.56191530

>>56191448
QRD on the image

>> No.56191587

>>56187834
They are panicking and saying 2025 now. lmao

>> No.56191606

>>56185920
They won't let it crash until Trump/Republicans win the next election.

>> No.56191621

>>56191448
why do german, french and italian bonds have different yield if they have the same currency. also how do i buy bonds from a different country?

>> No.56191758

>>56186204
b-but muh sportsball

>> No.56191784

>>56188918
holy kingdom of keks

>> No.56191799

>>56185897
already priced in

>> No.56192739

>>56185897
if you look at the top where it hits the scary red circle, protip always watch those charts in black and white so you dont fall prey to their emotional manipulation
if you look closely you'll see that it tops after most of the crash already happened and the bottom is in sight
markets are forward looking

>> No.56193018

>>56187777
Checked. Years confirmed.

>> No.56193204

>>56192739
>>56185897
bankruptcy filings are legitimately irrelevant
look at the 10-3 and 10-2 yield spreads.
student loan repayment beginning is going to fuck the market hard and suck in a bunch of liquidity the same as the debt. Gov shutdown is going to spook everyone but is largely irrelevant
you'll see a liquidity crisis starting in ~late oct. Companies are already doing preliminary layoffs to get ahead of it, but we're in for an absolutely fucked ride

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56193220

The amount of bankruptcies is almost at ATL though, isn't it? Or is that another piece of data? Statistics is so easy to manipulate that I can barely understand half the time what I am even looking at or if I am reading it correctly

>> No.56193225

>>56192739

That is a good point, the peak was almost 2010 for the GFC, well after the bottom of that crisis

>> No.56193266

>>56193220
don't look at downstream metrics
>10-3 yield spread is fucked
>10-2 yield spread is fucked
>Money velocity is almost zero which means QE won't work
>fed has peaked rate hikes
>student loan repayments begin next month
>companies staging layoffs already
>fuckton of ARMs, HELOCs, retard millennials that bought 30% too much house with 1-5% down
>if bank failures happen, they can literally just steal these assets because each bank is a creditor to another bank
all signs point to things being incredibly fucked and something in the economy snapping in the next ~2-18 months
bonus points that if bank failures happen, they can steal houses, swap to creditors in a default, then sell all of those houses for quick liquidity in the coming liquidity crunch while mortgageplebs get fucked

>> No.56193281

>>56193266
and I forgot to mention that all of this is happening when reserve requirements are literally zero (money supply is functionally infinite and is only limited by the amount of debt that people are willing or able to take on)

>> No.56193285

>>56193266

Yeah I'm almost completely defensive right now.

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>>56188652
>1982
are you fucking retarded, 82 was the bottom this chart calls the top in 81 then from 85 to 90 it climbs
>2001
9/11 stock crash
>2007
crash in 09, it literally calls the top of 07 and crashes all the way until 2013 until we hit the last high of 07


I dont think you know how to read a chart. I don't know why I am arguing with you. If you lose money I make money. Im just going to start fudding and posting the opposite of what I think. Oh fuck maybe your even more jewish than me and are already doing this.

>> No.56194828

I’m not sure if I should be cheering on a crash in hopes of it bringing down housing prices and destroying jewish institutions or worries for one as it may be a controlled demolition to give globohomo more power. If it’s the former can it happen sooner please I’m so fucking tired of waiting for this shit in slow motion

>> No.56194849

>>56186955
checked

>> No.56195605

>>56193266
the yield spread is pointless now, if central banks are in full ycc then the signal those charts give is totally corrupted
just look at euro bonds and tell me they arent suppressing the long end

>> No.56195794
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56195794

Lets see here…

Next week we got a gov shutdown. Student loan repayments oct 1. Record high credit card debt. Strikes taking place in multiple industries. Majority of people living paycheck to paycheck. Many have drained their savings already. Housing is stuck due to rates, no one buying or selling. And inflation is still beating the shit out of us.

Ya I think we’re fucked my dudes.

>> No.56195921

>>56185897
Crypto had a bull run when this happened before niggers think about that

>> No.56195950

>>56185897
The COVID crash was just a flash crash is that going to happen again or are we for a multiple year recovery like 2009

>> No.56195954

>>56191448
wait is this from today? 10y bond yields are up 2% on the day? that doesn't usually happen does it?

they're really gearing up to fuck everything like immediately after the end of the fiscal year aren't they. literally 2 more weeks

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>> No.56196041

>>56195794

Two more years.

>> No.56196102

>>56195954
>>56191530
Its from today yes.
And it closed at the high of the day.
Something is definitely going on
>>56191621
Every country in Europe issues its own debt.

>> No.56196123

>>56188918
based

>> No.56196181

>>56185897
i'm pretty sure the u.s., with 330 million people, can handle 9 bankruptcies

>> No.56196313

>>56185897
2008 made some millionaires covid made some millionaires, it's up to us, it's our oportunity

>> No.56196339

>>56185897
defaults are growing too

>> No.56196396

>>56196339
how many? 10? kek

>> No.56196425

>>56196102
Today is Yom Kippur, goy.
Buy buy buy
Shoulda sold on rosh hashanah

>> No.56196798

>>56195794
>Majority of people living paycheck to paycheck. Many have drained their savings already
I honestly didn't believe this and then I heard from socially-close families that this is what's happening to them
If rates do not go down within 6 months (and prices follow, not just le rate down), a big economic shock is guaranteed
We'll probably get a recession within 3

>> No.56196832

>>56189078
Did any retard in this thread even watch this? Explains how this is a bottom signal if anything

>> No.56197245

>>56196798
>within 6 months
We've been within 6 months for the last 18 months.

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>>56185897
>stockmarket crashes from people moving their money out
>real estate won't see its bottom for years so the rich won't bother with it for at least a year or 2
>nobody is spending money on anything just saving
2024 is going to be a guaranteed great year for crypto
>inb4 cycles aren't real unless its for bearish reasons
Repeated instances like this have a higher chance of repeating than not

>> No.56198677

>>56196798
>>56197245
it is all fun and games until the credit dries up.

>> No.56198706

>>56195794
-Gov shutdown will only last a short while so that republicans are forced to allow trooning kids in order to get military $$$
-Students will continue gaining interest and suffer silently forever in debt while still living relatively normal lives
-Writers Guild reached an agreement Monday and its only a matter of making it official(the big companies can easily afford it but want that extra 1% to go to shareholders to raise stock prices)
-people have always lived paycheck to paycheck but this time its because they are retards who have to get coffee everyday and eat out every night with a couple beers after work
-people have had no savings since the boomer-era peak died out everyones on credit now
-housing will crash eventually when people realize its all overpriced and the long awaited recession kicks in once again
-inflation is pretty much the thing that's worse than before however the next president and the outcome of the Ukraine/Russia Proxy war will determine whether or not we rebound as a country
>>56198677
There's always another shitty bank that will give you predatory loans to keep you afloat until times get good

>> No.56199033

>>56188918
lmao haven't seen one of these in a while. Nice job anon

>> No.56199063

>>56187033
>>56186955
A pair of fives is not enough sonn

>> No.56199074

>>56191606
Yup, election year is always like that.
Imagine the dumpster fire it will be next year...

>> No.56199080

>>56193204
Sell gold at all time highs and buy stuff (stocks among other things) at all time lows when everyone is looking for liquidity?

>> No.56199260

>>56186265
but it's completely wrong?

>> No.56199550
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>>56185920
>how come nothing is happening?
It is never happening until it is.

>> No.56199624

>>56194650
That "chart" is bad

>> No.56199653

There's all these indicators that something is going to happen, but still nothing is happening.
How come?

>> No.56201001

new macro general -
>>56200953

>> No.56201979
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>>56185897
Just flatten the curve, ya doinks
Always flatten

>> No.56203109

>>56199074
>trump wins elections
>everything skyrockets in the market knowing regulation will be cut
>the rich sell it all and blame Trump even though he isn't even in office yet
>retards who only read news headlines believe its Trumps fault that the rich took their money

>> No.56203220

>>56194828
This is 100% a controlled demolition. If the (((Fed))) really wanted to take inflation seriously they would raise rates by more than a quarter of apercentage point every meeting. They wouldnt pause rate hikes but go put and talk tough about raising some more. This is about as max-pain scenario as things can get for regular people and its going to get cranked up a notch when they put the working youth of the countries balls back in a vice-grip with student loan payments resuming at thevworst possible time for loan fags.They’ve been saying it for years now amd for whatever reason people are ignoring or not hearing it.

You will own NOTHING and be HAPPY

>> No.56203499

>>56185897
How many people are employed by zombie corps? like 2.3 million? oh yeah this one is going to hurt alot.

>> No.56205275

>>56187075
>UAW strike
Detroitfag here. It's nothing. These happen all the time. No one cares. The overpaid assholes have to live on poverty strike wages for a minute. It's theater. Most the plants are still open making parts for foreign cars. The cops make them let the trucks thru after fifteen minutes. It's having less effect than a mild winter.

>> No.56205360

>>56188918
i miss the good ol times, thanks for reminding me anon

>> No.56205371

>>56205275
Demand for 40% more salary is not normal.
Thats a sign of entrenched inflation

>> No.56205868

>>56194828
It's a controlled demolition, but it appears China and Russia aren't having it.

>> No.56206044

It’s finally happening so all you up forever faggots can go suck a dick. We need a crash anyway. Hookers are charging exuberant rates and post wall e-thots think they’re gonna get by with their beef curtains.

>> No.56206108

>>56188433
bleak

>> No.56206609

>>56205360
hard times create strong men
stay tuned for 2 new verses in 2 more weeks

>> No.56208275

>>56193220
Op posted a nobody account
I trust tradingecon more than some whale alerts twootard

>> No.56208641

>>56185935
Dude the yield curve inverted. How’s that for data points. Hope you’re growing food folks, lol shits about to get rough

>> No.56208642

>>56185897
Does that mean this is the bottom? unironically,the worst is over

>> No.56209314

>>56208642
This guy is a midwit, but i don't believe he is wrong. Melt-up then dump.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NT0oT7VM8E&t=1s

>> No.56209955

>>56185920
It is, you're just too dumb to realise it.

Americans won't believe something is happening unless their Jewish masters appear on CNN to tell them to officially start panicking. They won't do this of course because they're the ones who caused it.

Americans are the textbook definition of the boiling frogs.

>> No.56209973

>>56185959
They genuinely believe that decades of lending free money to terrible ideas and printing endless money to import and feed unproductive and violent third worlders has no consequences.

The melting pot is going into meltdown.

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>>56191408
I called October of this year a while ago.

>> No.56211005

>>56185897
Two more weeks™ before the total collapse
>>56186955
>OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>> No.56211189

>>56201979
>2015+8
>not using the catalog to view threads

>> No.56213644

>>56185920
Look at the news. It is happening.

>> No.56215613

>>56187777
Checked.

>> No.56215623

>>56213644
post article

>> No.56215642

>>56198706
>writers guild
nigga there are more strikes going on than fucking hollywood lol.

>> No.56216138

>>56213644

It doesn't look bad. I'm still waiting for mass layoffs. I mean the federal government employees.

>> No.56216239

>>56216138
what should i search

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>>56213644
Oh shit.

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Why is the government so reluctant to just enter another basic bitch bust cycle? What are they so afraid of that infinite BRRRR and nothing percentage point increases 6 months apart seems like smart policy?

>> No.56216444

>>56216429
Dude, everything inclduing the government is going broke

>> No.56217990

>>56216429
Inflation becomes psychological at some point theyre trying to stop just short of that
Because psychological inflation tends to runaway and the only known solution is to start a new currency

>> No.56218006

>>56185920
high fructose con syrup has destroyed your brain.

>> No.56218010

>>56188235

>me no like thing so that make thing not true

>> No.56218044

>>56216429

>Why is the government so reluctant to just enter another basic bitch bust cycle?

Jews.