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/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:39:05 2023 No.56179394 [Reply] [Original]

Dinner with the Wife Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Live Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.newslive.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:39:55 2023 No.56179397 Stocks! Yeah!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:55:54 2023 No.56179483 File: 52 KB, 953x569, ACBBB1F1-010E-4499-8A28-0B79C0E1ED03.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Bullish!

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:57:29 2023 No.56179498 File: 94 KB, 618x900, F6piBCsaAAAnQQt.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Cramer bros? https://www.cnbc.com/2023/09/21/cramer-buy-stocks-now-to-catch-the-rally-when-the-fed-stops-raising.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 19:58:12 2023 No.56179502 File: 464 KB, 476x439, 1693861310923078.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] what im watching right now https://youtu.be/THdU00jutvo https://youtu.be/aanwMfrSjP0

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:01:55 2023 No.56179525 >>56179498 So I should sell my stocks then, got it, thanks cramer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:05:46 2023 No.56179552 File: 65 KB, 571x503, stimulusmoney.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179498 He really is a sorcerer.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:07:41 2023 No.56179562 >>56179552 we need EV boats

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:08:01 2023 No.56179566 File: 15 KB, 570x382, S&P.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179483 Nothing to see here

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:17:05 2023 No.56179602 File: 97 KB, 287x356, 1690865217412659.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179483 >>56179566 Buy the dip you fucking retards. It's like you fags hate money. Slerp the derp. This is a niggaeconomy now.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:26:29 2023 No.56179664 >>56179602 Stock market is unironically lower than it was two years ago All you "index fund" faggots make zero money

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:26:36 2023 No.56179666
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>Yesterday evening drive home from work
>Open window because it's warm.
>squeak-click squeak-click
>it's the plastic hubcaps AGAIN
>stop car
>yank off cap
>put it back when i get home
>go groceries today, on the way back squeak-click squeak-click
>YANK ALL PLASTIC GARBAGE OFF CAR AND PUT IN GARAGE
Those soda cup covers are not going back on the car until I need to take a pretty picture to sell car
The market will be red next week as well, by the way. The tea leaves have foretold.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:28:47 2023 No.56179684 >>56179562 there are electric boats and they predate electric cars by a long time https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_boat

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:30:10 2023 No.56179698 File: 6 KB, 250x250, kenough.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179394 >not dating a cardboard TayTay at some point you just have to accept things the way they are. I get it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:30:23 2023 No.56179699 Are bears really going to do it two years in a row? They got utterly assraped from October 22 to August 23 but SURELY THIS IS THE BIG ONE. Lmao.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:33:49 2023 No.56179727 File: 603 KB, 660x660, 1688699001631766.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179699 One of these days it will be the big one and you will scream and cry to the government to save you and they will be powerless to stop it.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:39:22 2023 No.56179772 >>56179727 Oh yeah I'm sure they won't just make up new rules overnight just like every other time

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:39:50 2023 No.56179777

>>56179699
>retail bears with a grudge are the same as flows and big money starting to head for the door
You must be 18 years old to post here, but checked.
>>56179727
Pretty sure for all the work that has to be done to keep bonds from blowing up the little guy isn't getting shit but a handshake when this one is over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:42:34 2023 No.56179802 File: 595 KB, 1404x722, OIL.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179498 This can't be real... How has this guy still any credibility How can he still be on TV?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:43:18 2023 No.56179810 >>56179777 Lmfao big money has been loading up on longs for a year but nice try fag

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:44:03 2023 No.56179817 >>56179602 Your piece of shit index will probably go up and hold up til January, but then it is over.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:44:07 2023 No.56179818 >>56179802 >he doesn't know about inversing cramer What he actually said was "errybody in da club boughta be hella fuckin made cuz we givin wayz oil fo' damn near free so they gun run it" but he can't just out and out say that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:45:32 2023 No.56179826 >>56179818 I know about inversing him. But his show and all should then be classified as satire and not financial news/talk or whatever it is

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:47:24 2023 No.56179836

>>56179810
Near as I can tell the market wants lower even if the media says otherwise, because it's become pretty clear rates are not coming down until middle of next year at the earliest for about 50 bepis on the top end until the next FOMC meeting thereafter. That is essentially the fed telling the markets "fucking let it die already so we can get this over with and not actually get killed". If line go down then it can start going back up.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:48:07 2023 No.56179842 >>56179802 >>56179818 He also shilled Ford a few months ago. It has lost like 30% of value since then

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:48:50 2023 No.56179847 >>56179826 Yeah and piracy shouldn't be a crime either. I don't think CNBC has ever been pressed on it before but I'm sure they would say it's satire in court if it came down to it the same way fox did.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:49:53 2023 No.56179853 >>56179498 >Fed: "high rates will continue, probably at least into summer 2024" >Cramer: "rates are coming down soon" what did he mean by this

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:51:45 2023 No.56179864

>>56179836
Hahahaha no, 5% interest rates are not going to blow the market up. Get your information from somewhere else. Seriously, the chances of the dot plot changing AGAIN are almost 100%. Bears have zero reason to legitimately believe that the Fed is purposefully trying to break the stock market and/or economy but they have to act like they do because otherwise they've been retarded all for nothing. Lol

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:52:46 2023 No.56179867 >>56179853 Except the Fed didn't say that. Bears are such disingenuous faggots.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:52:54 2023 No.56179868

>>56179853
"rates are not coming down soon"
>>56179842
And if someone had inversed cramer properly they'd have made good money shorting ford. The rub is inversing cramer only hits like 7 or 8 times out of 10 at best so if you're going all in all the time inversing him you're gonna get your shit snapped. But historically if you'd just done the opposite of what he said you'd be winning on something like 83% of trades because as a ranked trader he's only correct about 27% of the time. If you find someone who is only wrong they're nearly as valuable as someone that is only right.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:54:38 2023 No.56179880 File: 186 KB, 341x395, 1679512045007854.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179864 >he doesn't know what happens when yields un-invert after being inverted while unemployment drops like a stone to near all-time lows

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:56:02 2023 No.56179891 >>56179880 Ohhhh my bad I thought that the yields being inverted was actually what would end the world because, y'know, that's the bullshit bears have been running with since 2021. Lmao.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 20:56:30 2023 No.56179897

>>56179867
>56179867
Are you retarded? The dot plot implies how rates will be. He practically hiked NOW for the future, which is why the market dropped because
>le forward looking
>priced in

And many fedmembers are saying if not explicitly at least implicity that the rates will stay like this until mid 2024.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:02:24 2023 No.56179940 File: 194 KB, 1920x1080, how to read chart.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179867

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:02:43 2023 No.56179942 File: 427 KB, 1080x2340, Screenshot_20230923-165909~2.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Guys... hear me out.. Santa rally... simple as

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:02:45 2023 No.56179943 >>56179897 Oh ur right the dot plot hasn't been utterly wrong multiple times

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:02:49 2023 No.56179945 the bulls here are being willfully obtuse

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:05:17 2023 No.56179958 >>56179945 Lol wow Lmao

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:05:30 2023 No.56179960

>>56179943
Oh yeah, worsening the dotplot for Mumu with each time is it being utterly wrong. He'll sure reverse it soon. Then it will be utterly right, right? Not utterly wrong.

>>56179945
I beg them to buy, pump it up so it can crash down, I'm making money with that.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:07:35 2023 No.56179969 >>56179945 The smart ones are safe in the cash/moneymarkets barn.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:09:21 2023 No.56179983 Have $20k on the sideline. Are they going to keep the lifeline going until 2024 election or should I wait for a correction/crash?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:10:19 2023 No.56179988 File: 42 KB, 600x374, stocks by month.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179983 "Crash" is over. Line go up

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:10:42 2023 No.56179989
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>>56179943
Unless some seriously deflationary shit happens they're pretty clear about the plan being higher for longer, and any dipshit looking at the chart they last posted can at least tell they're not lying about it even if percentages change. Near as I can tell they're not going higher than about 5.5% this year at the most and next year will probably be in the 4.5-5% range with it chilling out after that. At this point you're being delusional if you can't accept higher for longer is happening, you're already living it and have been for a while.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:11:57 2023 No.56179998 >>56179983 I would expect the music to be stopping sometime in Q1 of 2024 or soon thereafter.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:12:23 2023 No.56179999 >>56179989 I LOVE how the bear narrative is always "the Fed is a bunch of liars!!!" until they can latch onto some headline that they think proves their idiotic points. Just like last year but apparently you don't remember that lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:13:29 2023 No.56180007 >>56179989 Rates woul only come down if inflation comes down. People are utterly delusionat, if they expect anything else This is why long term yields have moved up drastically They are pricing in, that inflation is here to stay

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:14:29 2023 No.56180014 >>56179989 They will get hopium in october and november cpi because oil will appear low. But december cpi should crush that hope if oil stays here at 90 and more if it goes higher because of soft oct+nov cpi.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:16:32 2023 No.56180024 >>56180007 >Inflation has drastically decreased since summer 2022 >Groceries and basic goods have tanked, tons of BOGO sales etc OHHHH BUT BUT BUT MUH DOT PLOT

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:17:05 2023 No.56180027 prolly gonna sell $34 puts for IP on monday. Any other cool stocks yall looking at?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:18:40 2023 No.56180034 >>56180024 Core inflation rate is still above 4%

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:21:26 2023 No.56180048 File: 2.74 MB, 1280x720, 1669062680819917.webm [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >futures

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:21:35 2023 No.56180049
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>>56180024
It's been three years I've been on smg and you guys still can't understand that if inflation decreases it's rate of growth it doesn't make things cheaper.. it just means the things that doubled in price are still increasing in price less quickly

I used to spend hours upon hours trying to explain basic math to you niggers but it's a waste of time. I just fuck whores now and hope everyone here dies when they try to transition to female

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:23:43 2023 No.56180060

>>56179999
Wasted digits and I don't know what gay bears you've been talking to but I don't smoke cock, the fed has done a decent job keeping things under control but they have no fucking choice but to keep rates up which means yields can now finally un-invert since the whole world isn't going to fucking explode, but that does also mean we've decided to pay the bill for the last decade and a half of zirp. Expect pain and any pump is a bulltrap, but after things correct I think we resume a strong bull market about as fastly as can be done.
>>56180007
Yeah and given the feds dot plots it looks like they think they have a way to stagflate away fifteen years of zirp with about three years in total of rates actually being high. That's a tremendous fucking deal, I would take that deal and get the markets unfucked and back on track for success before the debt servicing payments escalate further.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:28:57 2023 No.56180089 File: 275 KB, 1280x1603, 1694370284038205.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179394 Who the FUCK took that photo of me and Tay?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:28:58 2023 No.56180090 Taylor Swift got a boob job.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:30:08 2023 No.56180098 After yom kipper is over we go back up next week. This was just another healthy correction and some profit taking. The yields are wrong here despite them indicating a recession every single time without fail.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:32:15 2023 No.56180113 >>56180098 Stocks are lower than they were two years ago.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:32:16 2023 No.56180114 I am now almost all cash.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:40:58 2023 No.56180148 why would you be in stocks right now if you can get a comfy 5.5% in a HYSA

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:42:54 2023 No.56180156 >>56180148 because even if i put my entire port in one or in a MMF i would only be getting roughly 600 a month which is not enough to pay off my monthly expenses

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:43:40 2023 No.56180161 >>56180156 thats a lot better than -40% over the next 6-8 months

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:45:14 2023 No.56180168 >>56180148 because if the stock you're in is good it'll go up a lot more than that

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:47:44 2023 No.56180178

>>56180168
Good*

(Where good is entirely arbitrary and dependent on Jewish pump and dump trends of ooohhhh ahhhh ooohhhh ahhh new paradigm rugg rugg rugg ahh sell everything it was a ponzi wtf why is everything green/red)

600/month guaranteed sounds pretty nice

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:48:09 2023 No.56180181 >>56180168 as we go further into the cycle, more people will understand that its better to keep their money out of risk. you children of zirp policies just dont get it yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:48:21 2023 No.56180184 >>56180113 If we're adjusting for inflation the market is really at about 3300 right now and needs to come down another 600-700 points before it can resume going bigly uply.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:50:44 2023 No.56180204 >>56180184 The whole stock market rally for the last 30-40 years has been because of constantly falling interest rates. People have seen nothing yet

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:51:17 2023 No.56180208 >>56180181 I DCA'd through the dot com bubble, the GFC, and covid. Tell me more. Plan on contuing to pack my bags. And if I bag cheapies for the next 3 years, that's all the better.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:53:24 2023 No.56180216 >>56180184 >>56180204 Utterly retarded pol tier fud. Just go back.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:54:38 2023 No.56180225 File: 156 KB, 363x724, Investments 8-17-2023.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180208 Me to. During the slump I hiked my 401k contributions over 100%. (another smaller 4% hike is planned for January 2024).

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:56:05 2023 No.56180233 >>56180208 hey, there's always the greater fool who will buy the bags and I guess its you >>56180225 and you too. how much is this portfolio down?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 21:56:09 2023 No.56180234 File: 201 KB, 510x496, 1657664256474.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] my stocks all just fell into a deep abyss i wish i would stop seeing blood in my piss

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:00:42 2023 No.56180268

>>56180216
I would accept that if I was saying lines would never go back up again. I am not. I'm saying we need to shit down about another grand and then start climbing again which anyone that knows cycles would tell you is correct and what is going to happen. Whether it bogs this fall or next summer it's sometime in there. I'm not saying run the fuck away from the markets screaming, but I am saying figure this shit into your positions so you don't get fucked otherwise. I'm looking forward to buying up plenty of dividend bearing bluechips in the trough to come like the one pig at the slaughterhouse that never gets caught when it's time to go up the ramp.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:02:33 2023 No.56180287 >>56180233 40 grand a year, just hitting my stride. I plan on investing 400,000 from 2018 through 2027.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:06:18 2023 No.56180313 >>56180233 KO boomer is kicking my ass though.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:07:45 2023 No.56180321 File: 124 KB, 1364x679, CocaCola.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180216 What about high interest low growth dont you understand? Coca Cola hasnt grown for the last 10 years

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:08:37 2023 No.56180324

>>56180184
Money is worth less so stocks are worth more. It's how inflation works faggot. Line is entirely based on "has to go up or everyone dies". Betting against it for any extended period where you know governments will shit trillions of dollars into the wind if needed is just retarded

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:10:01 2023 No.56180331 File: 157 KB, 1856x795, dji.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180181 The Fed funds rate was higher 1995-2000 than it is now. If you couldn't make money in pic related then I don't know how to help you.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:12:27 2023 No.56180348 >>56180324 Stocks didnt move anywhere during the high inflation of the 1970s. And they havent gone anywhere for the last two years. You have no idea what you are babbling about

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:12:33 2023 No.56180349 >>56180324 It comforts me to no end to know this is who I invest against. I bet you don't even position yourself for major religious events.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:14:06 2023 No.56180355 File: 301 KB, 1183x634, Retirement 401k 8-31 .jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180233 Down? Uh as of 8-31 I'm doing pretty good.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:15:38 2023 No.56180358

>>56180331
its a completely different economic situation. if you cant see all the warning signs then I dont know how to help you. if you want to just ride it out, thats fine as well but smart money is sitting cash collecting risk free gains.
>>56180355
you'll continue to see drawdown on all your divvie stocks. but I guess that 8% divvie somehow makes up for the -40% haircut, I guess. you can explain that one to me later.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:16:25 2023 No.56180364
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>>56180349
I'll have you know I am the biggest anti semite on all of /biz/ other than the one guy that posts glownigger cartoons of trannies commiting suicide

Perma bear or "it has to go down because it is up" is just a losing retard doomer strategy. Look I agree everything is fucked and women are garbage and no one is having kids and everything is fucked. But you know what? It's fucking priced in. Just buy cheap shit (Disney, Tysons chicken nuggets, paramount) and sell the shit for realized gains when the world doesn't end. Move the money into index funds, bonds or leave it in cash for the next gamble and repeat

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:16:51 2023 No.56180367 >>56180321 How is a fucking legacy soda company your benchmark? Lmao

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:16:53 2023 No.56180369 >>56179394 honestly she got a dumper

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:20:35 2023 No.56180390 File: 43 KB, 963x319, Capture.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180364 oh yeah? Where is your jewish nonprofit organization Mr. Anti Semite?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:21:43 2023 No.56180395 >>56180358 Well if I'd paid 50+ for my VZ shares you'd be right. However I did not. My price paid for all 466 of them is substantially lower. My BKR is up 26% as of friday..

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:21:50 2023 No.56180396 File: 48 KB, 1024x576, McDonalds_-_Revenue-.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180367 Because its somehow worth 250 billion McDonalds is the same thing You people have no idea, what the fuck is going on

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>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:24:29 2023 No.56180409 >>56180396 really puts that all day breakfast thing they tried into perspective

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:27:46 2023 No.56180422 >>56180396 What is this autistic vague "you don't even know what's gonna happen" bullshit. You posted MCD revenue for the last 10 years and they are up like 1000%. I dunno what you are even trying to say retard

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:29:23 2023 No.56180434

>>56180396
Sometimes I wonder why I even try with people that wouldn't long consumer staples through a recession. Insert great grand-boomer talking about how "people bought cokes during the great depression" so he loaded up on shares and the dividends are still making his great-great-grandkids millionaires for existing here. I have mcdicks and coke in my port.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:29:28 2023 No.56180435 >>56180422 >why do you care if a company has growing revenues

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:30:00 2023 No.56180438 >>56180422 I think he is saying MCD's stock is up bigly but revenue has declined

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:30:47 2023 No.56180447 File: 149 KB, 1080x2340, Screenshot_20230923-182953.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180435 >Dude don't buy mcd the revenues aren't growing Are you retarded or just larping? Plot reality on top of your doomer graph please

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:31:39 2023 No.56180453 >>56180447 Look up what revenue is, you retarded fucktard

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:33:09 2023 No.56180461 File: 590 KB, 697x697, 1634784015346.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180453 Dafuq do I care about that nerd gay shit for retard. Line go up. Get fucked. Imagine holding anything for more than a couple months lmao

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:35:29 2023 No.56180475

>>56180438
It's up because people are fleeing to it because it's safe. That's bad because it will need to correct to match declining revenues. The largest, cheapest provider of ready-made food for most of the world having declining revenues is extremely bearish because it means people are saving money by eating less, the same way grocery stores having shitty revenues over the last few years isn't great either.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:36:10 2023 No.56180483
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>>56180461
And Apple is approaching the same thing. Revenue is going nowhere.

>Apple said Thursday that its revenue slipped 1% to $81.8 billion for its quarter ending July 1, marking the third consecutive year-over-year drop in quarterly revenue for the world's most valuable company

https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/03/tech/apple-earnings-third-quarter/index.html

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:36:16 2023 No.56180485 >>56180475 bingo, now apply this to the whole market.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:37:51 2023 No.56180498
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>>56180475
>People are saving money
Bullshit
>People are eating less
Bullshit

Basically you need to touch grass and you are a retarded faggot. Everyone is fatter, dumber and in more debt than every and it's all priced in you fucking retard

TINA - there is no alternative

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:49:39 2023 No.56180563 >>56180498 Sounds like what something someone that is terminally online that never actually touches grass and just posts and consumes demoralizing content would say.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 22:56:22 2023 No.56180603

>>56180563
Nigger just because you watch asmongold and say "terminally online" doesn't make you less of a faggot. I'll have you know that I live in the fucking weeds. I'm so deep in the grass you nigguhs don't even understand. I'm constantly seeing these normies and how they live. Fucking disgusting. Long everything

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:00:48 2023 No.56180626 >>56179684 Electric boats aren't ideal either. We need to come up with wind energy boats.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:02:11 2023 No.56180630 If I sell a put say for $100, then buy it back for $50, do I pay taxes on the $100 or do I subtract the $50 from the $100 and only pay tax on $50? I would only make $50 here, but the IRS may say I made $100.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:02:28 2023 No.56180632 File: 138 KB, 897x875, 1665354555720957.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179498 >when the fed stops raising

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:02:38 2023 No.56180637 File: 192 KB, 408x424, 1695236200279712.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] What do you guys talk about on Saturdays?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:03:13 2023 No.56180642 File: 171 KB, 850x1332, kancolle_fubuki3.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180626 >We need to come up with wind energy boats. Sir I would like to invest in your novel startup.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:06:18 2023 No.56180655 File: 409 KB, 1079x1447, Screenshot_20230923-190544.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180637 Whores

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:08:08 2023 No.56180663 File: 87 KB, 225x294, 1680113149858377.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180655 >Racemixing >Flexing photos You beclown yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:09:55 2023 No.56180676 Sex with my wife Jeanna Smilek for the purposes of procreation.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:10:00 2023 No.56180680 File: 1.17 MB, 4418x2945, spin to win.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180626 way ahead of you

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:10:13 2023 No.56180682
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>>56180663
Bitches love emojis

Bitches love naked photos of you (not your dick but also maybe your dick if they like you)

Asian bitches smell nice and their hair is soft

FACTS

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:10:28 2023 No.56180688

>>56180630
how fucking retarded are you

it's capital gains tax
you pay it on your gains

bought at x
sold at y
y - x = gains

you only get gains taxed on long term capital gains(1 year+)

short term is under your regular income tax bracket

Google is free

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:13:40 2023 No.56180695 File: 1.12 MB, 343x448, 1693177927623506.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >two of my student loans are at 6.8% >the rest are 3-4.5% can't I just do minimum payments on the lower ones and let inflation slowly pull them into irrelevance?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:15:43 2023 No.56180701 >>56180695 >Click forbearance >Click medical hardship or whatever excuse >Type "we need more money for these programs for the kids" >Hit submit Congrats you are back on 0%

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:16:04 2023 No.56180703 >>56180695 i can't imagine having student loans i just moved abroad after uni and never paid, now i've lived out of the country so long that i've reached the forgiveness period nothin personnel canberra

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:16:55 2023 No.56180707 >>56180701 sorry dude im white as shit I already tried that and they said no >>56180703 its not that much, I can pay the 6.8% ones off this year and then my monthly paychecks for it are barely $200

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:33:01 2023 No.56180775 >>56180682 i got a thing for mixed race black girls that are almost white again. Something deep within me compels to turn their kids white again.

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:37:28 2023 No.56180785
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God dammit, I did it again. I knew as I was doing it I shouldn't. I told myself in my head, Stop, Don't do this again. But I did it anyway. I couldn't stop myself.
I don't deserve to make it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:41:36 2023 No.56180801 Someday I'll be good enough

Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:45:50 2023 No.56180825 [DELETED]

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>>56180775
Based

I still keep in touch with the half white/half black girl. She only dates white dudes and her dad is a cop. It's some Freudian shit for sure my dude

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:46:34 2023 No.56180830 >>56180825 dude please, its dinner and some of us are eating itt

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:52:18 2023 No.56180858 >>56180825 Christ dude you can have it

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:52:20 2023 No.56180859 >>56180825 someone has to slay the trolls. good on you anon.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:54:30 2023 No.56180869 how do i get started with investing. any links?

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:55:04 2023 No.56180871 >>56180830 >>56180858 >>56180859 Three green ids shitting on free vagina. Confirmed red monday

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:57:59 2023 No.56180884 >>56180869 Is this bait? Gotta be bait.

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:58:32 2023 No.56180886 >>56180869 https://learn.robinhood.com/

>>	Anonymous Sat Sep 23 23:58:32 2023 No.56180887 Thoughts on slurping MGM?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:00:11 2023 No.56180892 >>56180825 dude youre overcompensating. you dont need to keep showing us awful nudes. youre gay, we can tell from the emojis

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:00:29 2023 No.56180899

>>56180887
I haven't been to Vegas myself multiple times in the past year, but rumor is that at the beginning of the year and into the early summer Vegas was packed, a lot of people traveling - was expected to go forever - was hangover covid travel spending + surplus savings; but by the end of the summer it was in the gutter and locations were suspiciously empty
the recession will not magically get better and inject money into people's pockets to go out to casinos
I think it is premature - but keep on radar

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:02:05 2023 No.56180908

>>56180884
well i work a lot and live with my mom so i have a bunch of money saved up, turns out im losing a buncb because of inflation. its not enough money to invest in real estate and thats what id do if i could, but im genuinely interested in other options.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:10:37 2023 No.56180954
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>>56180908
okay very basic idea is this:
-Open an account with a brokerage. Which one you select depends on how frequently you want to trade, and what you want to trade, but something big and common like Charles Schwab is going to be just fine for anything.
-select a trading strategy. The most simple and most successful relative to risk over the long term is just dollar cost averaging in to an index ETF like SPY or VOO (both track the S&P 500). To dollar cost average you just buy a set amount of shares every couple months regardless of which direction the market is going. Keep doing this forever and eventually you will come out ahead pretty well. It's important with this strategy that you never panic sell no matter how dire the situation seems (like during a market crash). Stick to strategy. Keep buying according to your schedule.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:11:31 2023 No.56180958 >>56180908 Stay cash and wait a year. Losing 15% of its value from inflation beats losing 40-60% of it putting it in the market right before it's set to correct hard enough normans will call it a crash.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:11:58 2023 No.56180962 File: 8 KB, 106x112, 1669095831225641.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] futures https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pm08v69vG10

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:14:42 2023 No.56180974
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>>56179880
What's funny is the un-inverting corresponds to the "priced-in" recession getting closer and closer to the 3mo bond term, like a tidal wave approaching the shore of bond maturity lengths.
>Funnier is this bitch is basically told to shill retail that an un-inversion means stocks are going higher
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys2CKcIa4Tw

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:14:42 2023 No.56180973 >>56180958 this plus take 1k and teach yourself how to use options in a downturn

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:16:38 2023 No.56180982 File: 148 KB, 365x332, 1695392384596673.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180974 And it's another reminder >women Never, EVER.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:17:09 2023 No.56180989

>>56180908
If you have enough for it to pay for itself and then some, park your money in a Robinhood Gold account for 4.9% daily accrued/monthly paid interest, and *slowly* start DCA (Dollar Cost Averaging) into an index fund or funds like VOO (Vanguard S&P 500) and/or VUG (Vanguard Growth). You can set up daily/weekly/monthly automatic investment injections. Since we are presently BEARISH, and perhaps *very* so soon, I very strongly suggest starting with a small amount and keeping the injections small until the markets get some shit figured out. Meanwhile your cash is still getting that 4.9% just sitting there waiting. Spend each day very carefully learning more and more and *watching* lots of stocks each day to see for yourself what they are doing over time and get your own direct pulse of things until you, on your own, start knowing *exactly* what you should do in terms of specific trades/investments. Do not listen to the most of the niggers here because they will lead you into losing everything. Misery loves company. To begin with you might even want to just start out with, for example, something like a $100 first buy in on VOO, then do *maybe* $5 per day injections and just watch what it does for a few weeks/months, but beware the markets just now dropped back to June 2021 levels so shit might be about to get real. Do some reading on the last couple of years with inflation and the Federal Reserve interest rates, and do some learning about the effects/ramifications, especially for any business/individual with a lot of debt, because it all blends and there's still a lot of effects left to manifest.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:22:01 2023 No.56181012

>>56180982
Having the chick play the heel is an old, old, old strategy in storytelling. But yeah the tidal wave approaching analogy is apt, yields uninverting was the water going out and yields uninverting with dropping unemployment is the wave coming in.
>>56180989
>Rabbihood
The interest isn't worth keeping money there, it's nearly as dumb as being in short dated bonds right now. One little whoopsie and "oops, sorry, you couldn't access your account".

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:23:02 2023 No.56181020 >>56181012 >yields uninverting was the water going out yields INVERTING was the water going out, I need a cheeseburger.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:23:35 2023 No.56181023 File: 1.17 MB, 968x998, 1695226986872003.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181012 >this guy HE GETS IT

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:24:43 2023 No.56181028 >>56181012 It's FDIC insured and HOOD is cash rich with a very knowledgeable/competent investment strategist. Your FUD is niggerly.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:28:25 2023 No.56181046 File: 566 KB, 1170x1973, IMG_8991.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Everything is fixed you guys. Diversity is our bail out. There is nothing bad that will ever happen and certainly not for another 10 years at least

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:28:33 2023 No.56181047

>>56180908
By far the easiest approach is to do what >>56180954 recommended. Very good returns and absolutely no education necessary.

Just keep in mind the market moves up and down a lot unpredictably. On any given year there's a 1 in 3 chance it goes down 10% or more and a 1 in 6 chance it goes down 25% or more.

That means if you need to take money back out of your stock investments be sure to plan that at least a few years ahead so you aren't stuck selling on a down year. If you need the money to be available on shorter notice than that you may want to consider some kind of savings account instead since rates are really good right now, but the downside is you'll get lower returns in the long run.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:30:21 2023 No.56181058 File: 107 KB, 1081x691, IMG_8994.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181023 >tfw 3 month cd yielding 5% with JPMorgan Chase

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:33:49 2023 No.56181074 >>56181046 >inb4 the whole reason Ukraine was invaded was to displace people and get cheap labor

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:34:21 2023 No.56181075

>>56181028
Without a hint of exaggeration or hyperbole I would rather throw my entire networth into an absolute lolcow shitcoin than park a single cent with rabbihood. They have personally fucked me several times and I will forever hate them. I'd rather buy LUNC with everything I have and chance it there. Going with a CD with a real firm or a money market fund with a real brokerage is leagues smarter, and legally speaking that anon asking what to do would be best served talking to someone that does this for a living than retards on the internet.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:35:48 2023 No.56181084 >>56181074 There’s like 50 Ukrainians in the US. The actual article is about the 500k Venezuelans Biden gave work permits as an exchange for Maduro not cutting back oil production (they will never mention this part)

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:37:55 2023 No.56181096
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Sigh, kinda in a holding rut for a while. Paused the stock bagging cause I'm diverting all spare green each month to knocking down my debt as much as I can before the zero interest period expires. No new books and movies coming out for awhile. Hell even the newest fakku hentai manga is kinda meh so I'm waiting on that to. (I don't pay for it, fuck that, but I still keep tabs on new stuff that may catch my eye)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:38:17 2023 No.56181097 File: 2.77 MB, 2231x3000, 5cedcdab9cc3d33eec5fdeebf32adb13.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180954 I hear them outside my apartment window. Being normal. Having fun. I'm so sad and hateful.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:40:02 2023 No.56181100 >>56179826 You dont get it. This is a dog eats dog branch, literally nietzsches master and slave morality, the wheat from the chaff, the normie cattle vs. the chad investor.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:41:07 2023 No.56181102 >>56181096 ive never been happier to be in vt then when I see y'all's portfolios

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:41:26 2023 No.56181103 >>56180908 >>56180954 >muh line always goes up No way these are genuine posts. Desperate Vanguard shills at it again

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:44:49 2023 No.56181115

>>56181075
>They have personally fucked me several times
I'd be interested in hearing exactly how. Their support has always been very helpful to me but I've never had any major issues whatsoever (I just now, minutes ago in fact, got them to do the once per life removal of a PDT flag off of a large account so I could get the interest again, a flag gets you removed from cash sweep even if your balance is well above the 25k requirement).

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:46:43 2023 No.56181125 >>56181103 The response there said "something like SPY or VOO", schizotard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:46:44 2023 No.56181126 File: 705 KB, 270x152, 1672286176603943.gif [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181103 DCA strategy would even work on the Nikkei during the eternal valley eventually. EVENTUALLY.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:48:31 2023 No.56181132

>>56181115
I'm not going to get into it because it's the weekend and I have dinner in a bit and would rather not be pissed and talking about finance through all of it. Suffice it to say I'll be shitting on them every time they come up in any format, and before you ask no it had jack shit to do with everything that happened in '21 with all the memes. Their place in the market is being where broke degenerate retards trade options because they can't get approved anywhere else, using them for anything else is at best naive.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 00:52:20 2023 No.56181146 File: 85 KB, 1644x1242, db2fb28250cefa30aa91bf220c9a2b73.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181132 >not going to get into it >because mmmhmmm.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:04:23 2023 No.56181194
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>>56181146
If you're gonna avatarfag about it then fine. Their bid/ask on options is shit compared to using a real broker, they auto close contracts a half hour before expiry which coincidentally is right before they start running entirely too often to just be a coincidence, they've shut their doors during periods of volatility several times and just told everyone it was a glitch/problem with their system after the fact when in reality doing so saved them a lot of money if not their asses in some situations, and when I finally did get fed up with their bullshit in late 2020 they fucked the dog on me transferring my holdings to another brokerage and cancelled it twice before it finally went through. Then kept the 75$ for the transfer for themselves and I had to pay the fee again with the brokerage I moved to.

Put that in your pipe plus the fuckery they pulled in 2021 with the memestockers and smoke it. Fuck robinhood. You can do everything they do better with someone else or somewhere else or self-custodially if you're doing crypto.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:13:30 2023 No.56181232

Hey guys I have a question on alternate investments.
Ebay somewhat recently bought out TCG Player, one of the biggest hubs for selling MTG cards in the US. They also are promoting a vault service to store high end collectables: https://www.ebay.com/vault

What I find the most interesting here is the temperature control and 24-hour armed security (Delaware). Rudy from Alpha Investments recently bought majority stake in the PCG grading company and mentioned similar things (that the cards they grade are in climate control and under armed security in Florida). What's happening to the collectables industry? It seems like there's a consolidation of power.

Or what if you put your alternative investments in with them and you get rugpulled from a (((once in a lifetime event)))?

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:20:33 2023 No.56181255

What happens to the prices of second hand goods during very high inflation?

On the one hand people might try to sell anything they can for whatever price just to stay afloat, and I imagine if it's not an important or useful item the demand would be low. In this case I can see prices standing still

On the other hand high inflation knows everyone knows prices on new items are always going up so seller may try to ask for more.

Thinking of unessential things like lamps, photo frames and fiction. Not things like dinner plates that will always be in demand.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:23:48 2023 No.56181275

>>56181232
ebay in general is going the way of the dodo, it seems like thats a late move trying to capitalize on the 2020 craze when people were stuck indoors and had money to burn. admittedly I only follow it casually, but I would be surprised if MTG (modern for at at least) dies out within a decade or so

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:25:10 2023 No.56181285

>>56180049
>you guys still can't understand that if inflation decreases it's rate of growth it doesn't make things cheaper.. it just means the things that doubled in price are still increasing in price less quickly
this.
it's astonishing how utterly people are getting filtered by something as seemingly trivial as that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:32:50 2023 No.56181318 File: 61 KB, 976x850, frog.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Going to my 15-year high school reunion tomorrow. I get to see who turned out fat or bald or married an uggo. How do I profit from this, business & financially speaking?

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:33:24 2023 No.56181319

>>56181194
>bid/ask on options is shit
>auto close contracts a half hour before expiry
Legit cons (well, 2nd one is a pro for many users but not advanced optioneers)
>shut their doors during periods of volatility
Other major brokerages do that too, but it hardly ever gets mentioned.
>kept the 75$ for the transfer for themselves
Yeah, from what I've seen that's standard. I know that HOOD *pays* the $75 the other brokerage charges when you transfer into them.
>You can do everything they do better with someone else
Nope, nowhere near *everything*, but yes, there are certainly some aspects that others are better on or better for. I think most of those aspects don't come into play until a trader is much more advanced and has very specific needs that HOOD doesn't provide or provides relatively poorly, and they know exactly what those are. Totally granted though on the options bid/ask, that is definitely a fuckin' pisser. I don't smoke a pipe or anything else though. Cigs and drugs are bad.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:36:43 2023 No.56181332 >>56181318 do people actually go to their reunions? everyone in my highschool moved out of state immediately after graduation

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:38:11 2023 No.56181340 >>56181318 The only one I ever went to was my 25 year one and that was all I needed for life. I had a great time, but fucked my arm up real bad trying to piss out behind the place and didn't know it till I sobered up the next day.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:38:26 2023 No.56181343 File: 166 KB, 540x304, 1693418143076756.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181318 always cum in the one with the biggest tits but do not ever call them back this is financial advice

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:39:44 2023 No.56181352 >>56181275 >ebay in general is going the way of the dodo wat? I use them instead of AMZN for anything I can't get at WMT.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:41:12 2023 No.56181361 >>56181318 You profit from it by not going and not caring about people that are long removed from caring about you. If that's not possible then hire some dimepiece escorts to go with you and pull up in a rented ferrari head to toe in balenciaga.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:42:57 2023 No.56181365
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>>56181275
That's a shame because I just got into it. I'm making like $240 per quarter just selling old MTG cards I had from a collection or two I bought a few years ago. Sure, I'll eat about 15% in overhead from taxes and fees, but it's a pretty safe venue to sell. I actually have a Switch I want to sell too, but I don't want to post on Facebook buy/sell because I don't want to get nigged
Also started getting into Lego, been having fun on BrickEconomy pricing things out. I wagie at Walmart so I have access to information like the store's margin and whether an item is on second clearance. I've been targeting sets that are in good condition, -30 to -60% margin for the store, and ideally retiring soon. I've got about $350 worth of sets for $175 (plus 1.35% cashback). My own margins are killer, but it's still a matter of selling them. Even if I drop 20% from retail price, I still make a bit of money. I don't mind holding for a few years, 5-10 or more is reasonable since Lego tends to have outsized gains.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:45:35 2023 No.56181375 >>56181318 >>56181332 I think I was supposed to have a 10 year one but no-one invited me

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:47:06 2023 No.56181385

>>56181319
I just don't like it as a recommendation for a first brokerage unless someone specifically wants to be as degenerate as possible. Going with a more established broker and taking things slow the first couple years is a lot more boring but better in the long run, rather than trying to turn people into gamblers when they wanted to trade or invest. Especially before a market downturn that advice could end up getting people hurt. It's killed people before literally, albeit people that didn't know better and got in way over their head. Giving any moron 5k in margin for 5$ a month is also shady to say the least.
>>56181255
Used cars skyrocketed over the past couple years, it's basically the only reason why carvana is still a company.
>>56181232
I don't follow all of that closely but I remember hearing that one of the larger grading firms is shady and does a bunch of bullshit like undergrading cards so I'm not surprised there's a move in that space to make a real competitor. It's been needed for a long time. At the end of the day all that shit is just art speculation with a lower budget, not entirely retarded but high likelihood you lose your ass if you don't live it and have deep pockets.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:50:15 2023 No.56181398

>>56181332
It'll probably be just a few cliques. It was organized on Facebook so I only know about it because an old friend with a Facebook account forwarded me the info.
>>56181361
This is actually good financial advice. I should rent a lambo and an escort and tell them that I invested in (current bags).

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:51:57 2023 No.56181406

>>56181385
Well my advice was for them to take it slow and was very specific to utilizing both very small automatic DCA investments in *fractional shares* which HOOD is the king of, while their cash is sitting there getting essentially 5% daily accrued/monthly paid interest without having to move it into a money market or bonds or any other shit, just the Anon's investment money sitting their in his brokerage account serving as the draw on those automatic interval DCA injections (which HOOD has the excellent tool for).

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:52:26 2023 No.56181409 The DXY has now seen 14 green weekly candles in a row. First time since Bretton Woods in 1973. Fuck this scam system.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:56:26 2023 No.56181433 >>56181340 Damn nigga you old.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:56:42 2023 No.56181435

>>56181385
>At the end of the day all that shit is just art speculation with a lower budget, not entirely retarded but high likelihood you lose your ass if you don't live it and have deep pockets.
I like cards and I like Lego, so I'm happy to sit on them for a long time. Plus if worst comes to worst and I absolutely can't sell them, I can just donate them to a toy drive and claim retail/market value as a tax deduction, or give them away as gifts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:56:43 2023 No.56181436 >>56181365 Needs some lorcana

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:57:58 2023 No.56181443 >>56181433 Which is why you should listen

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:57:59 2023 No.56181444

>>56181436
Missed out on the launch date, and Rudy says the boxes are easy to tamper with. Not too optimistic about that, but I like the idea of it. I still need to get better Pokemon boxes (like actual boxes instead of a cheap shaymin set), as well as FAB, Metazoo and Sorcery. Sorcery looks kino as fuck

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:58:09 2023 No.56181445

>>56181361
>people that are long removed from caring about you
This sounds like a cityfaggot problem. Around here there are a lot of us classmates that legit care for each other even all these decades later. And it showed that night of my reunion, and shows periodically in everyday life. I even had one that took me to their house the night I fucked my arm up there so they could make sure I was ok till I sobered up, then that next morning they took me to eat at the Waffle House on their dime. Heck, another classmate paid for my ticket to the thing to start with as a way to convince me to go at all. I had not laid eyes on him in decades but he came and begged me to go and I said nope, and he said come on man, I will pay and everything. I was touched that he cared that much so said fuck it and went. Anyway, cities should be gassed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 01:59:30 2023 No.56181451 >>56181445 >Anyway, cities should be gassed. Cities are very important. The people in them are perpetual wagies and debt slaves. They're the ones that rapidly consoom and drive up the price on real estate and equities.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:01:16 2023 No.56181461 >>56181444 The booster boxes aren’t shrink wrapped, yea, you could probably get some packs out without ripping the cardboard “zipper.” The deck boxes are shrink wrapped, though.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:01:22 2023 No.56181463 >>56181451 I trade all of the shit that benefits from that for a return to Little House on the Prairie level days with the exception of having the good aspects of modern healthcare.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:04:42 2023 No.56181476

>>56181435
Yeah for you I'd imagine it would work. Hell I've seen people make good money on CSGO skins just holding them forever although a lot of that was the game finally hitting the chinese market.
>>56181445
I'm more rural than you'd think and the cityfaggotry still polluted the water. Happy for you tho.
>>56181406
I get it, I just know they're the only brokerage that's been told to change their UI so it wasn't gamified. Your advice wasn't bad other than the broker in my opinion. It's what could happen when you're not there and they start making their own ill-informed decisions outside of your advice that the problems can start.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:05:46 2023 No.56181485

>>56181318
Depends what kind of school you went to. Did you go to a private school with rich kids? If they're adults now, you should be able to pick up some stock tips, as surely some of them are now working in the big leagues. Did you go to a rural school? Maybe some of your former classmates are now farmers. Get friendly with them, and then start asking about crop yields, seed, fertilizers, whatever... Maybe you can make some cash in commodities futures. Did you go to an urban school? Probably some of your classmates are drug dealers now, or in criminal gangs. You can make money there, but it's risky. Or, did you go to some random normal and boring suburban school? That's honestly the worst case, since most kids from those end up leading boring and normal lives, and it's unlikely you'll get anything useful unless you remember who the nerdy ones were. Maybe a few of them ended up in good positions to know things.
And damn... my 15 year would have been in 2020 but that obviously didn't happen. Shame too, I had just started a new job that year too at a big tech company, so I might have looked kinda impressive. Or not, who knows.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:06:48 2023 No.56181491

>>56181476
To expound, RH gives you the most rope to hang yourself with out the gate. That can be a blessing if you know what you're doing or a curse if you don't. That's what scares me about it recommending it to noobs. For everyone that knows what they're doing it's not bad for making really degenerate options plays and other advanced shit, they have a market segment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:09:10 2023 No.56181510 >>56181476 >cityfaggotry still polluted the water Yep, that's what they do, they should have been gassed no later than 1955 before it got way too out of hand.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:12:06 2023 No.56181526 ok I'm back. going to see if I can make an infographic of the yield curve to recession impact calculation to save /smg/ from the impending recession.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:16:33 2023 No.56181542 File: 163 KB, 729x565, KR.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Made a KR run, spent like $70 As I was leaving, the town schizo walked in talking to himself. He doesn't stop, just a continuous stream of rambling nonsense.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:17:17 2023 No.56181546

>>56181491
I don't think people would be much prone to figuring out how to hang themselves though without retards telling them how to do it. For instance, no one is likely to fuck with options at all without first hearing about it from all the gooblertards in shitholes like this and the WSB crowd. Anyone that truly doesn't know shit and is starting from scratch without being pre-primed for all that retardation will be seeing HOOD's built in tutorials walking them through basics, and their Learn section is filled with *excellent* materials that explain things to total noobs a lot better than the ones at other brokerages I've tried. But then too, where I come from I had my own guns and could wander the woods with them unsupervised by 5th grade and our parents knew we were responsible enough before it. Maybe cityfaggots should not be given such tools till they are a lot older if ever!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:17:48 2023 No.56181550 >>56181542 >the town schizo walked in talking to himself. He doesn't stop, just a continuous stream of rambling nonsense. Why are you talking to yourself

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:17:54 2023 No.56181551
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Inherited IRA newfag here. If anyone remembers last Saturday, you guys were right, that financial advisor was worthless and I fired him Monday morning before there was any problems.
Thank you guys for setting me straight.

I got a specific question. I took half the IRA out as a distribution, and am leaving the other half until January for tax reasons. I liquidated the mutual fund that was losing money in both the IRA and the inherited brokerage. Since I can't use the money I'm the IRA until January anyway, I wanted to get a good interest rate with no chance of it going down further. VMFXX (vanguard's settlement fund) is currently paying 5.28%. If I buy 13 week tbills they are "projected" at 5.65%, but that's not guaranteed.
However, I can buy CDs on the secondary market. What's a good resource on doing this? I don't understand this chart. It looks like I can get 6.5%. Can anyone help me here? How does this work?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:19:01 2023 No.56181557 >>56181542 He may have built his own computer operating system as instructed by the LORD GOD Almighty!

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:21:05 2023 No.56181568

>>56181550
I talk to myself because I have no one else to talk to, but I like to think that what I say to myself is at least mostly coherent. This guy is on another level.
>>56181557
Maybe. He seems to function somewhat normally... he goes shopping and stuff. He just can't stop speaking nonsense.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:21:56 2023 No.56181573 I just realized that 6.5% is for 6 days so it's not worth bothering... My ID says "Christ" lol

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:22:15 2023 No.56181576 >>56181568 I watched a Terry vid where he went to the grocery store one time, in fact.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:26:54 2023 No.56181601 >>56181573 >>56181551 are you sure its a 6 day 6.5% yield?

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:27:01 2023 No.56181602

>>56181546
I'm probably just getting old and crochety but I still prefer the boomer brokers that won't even let you smell options until you have a chunk of change deposited and have taken a class or two online. I've seen a lot of retards lose it all. Is very similar to the gun argument though, and on that one I'm firmly pro-guns, but maybe start with a .22 instead of a 30-06.
>>56181551
CD or money market would be your safest bets, for that you'd be talking to an investment firm or a bank for the CD and money market is pretty easy nowadays because it's just "throw your cash in your broker account and fuggetaboutit" for the most part. Short-term bonds are a midwit test and congrats, you passed!

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:29:45 2023 No.56181620

>>56181568
I know, I'm just funposting and giving you a hard time

>>56181576
>>56181601
Bonds and fixed income list their rate of return as an annual figure. Sure it's only 6 days, but if he happened to do the exact same strategy every week with the same asset, it would work out to 6.5% per year.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:31:16 2023 No.56181629

>>56181602
Funny you should say that, my first gun was a 12 gauge, and very next about a year later was a 30-06. I did borrow my grandfather's .22 and 16 gauge before getting my own though. The first brokerage I tried was SCHW too. I don't fuck with options, btw, other than the maybe 6 or so trades I tried my hand at a month or so ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:32:01 2023 No.56181634 >>56181602 >Short-term bonds are a midwit test and congrats, you passed! Wait, explain. I thought money market funds/accounts had pretty pisspoor annual returns (but higher than savings accounts). I've been buying monthly bonds with a 4.5-4.75% return

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:34:15 2023 No.56181645 >>56181620 >I'm just funposting and giving you a hard time I know, but I always prefer to play along and give a straight answer

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:35:22 2023 No.56181652 File: 23 KB, 912x529, treasury bonds.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181526 >I'm back I mean't to say 'tis over... So let's start with treasury bonds.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:35:50 2023 No.56181654 File: 460 KB, 512x675, 1559750597540.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] whats the movie tonight babe

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:36:57 2023 No.56181659

>>56181601
I'm not sure of shit, that's why I'm here.
>>56181620
Yeah, I don't want to manage it that hard. I'm really tempted to put it all in a 3 month t bill so that it will mature 12/28/23, and then in January I can move the rest out on the IRA so that's no longer a thing.
(The reason I might want it all at once is that I might buy a smaller house, move in, and rent this one out since we don't have kids living here and don't need the space or the school next door. Really depends on where prices go next year.)

Unrelated, I'm thinking of trying futures trading as a side line. I want to "paper trade" on a simulated platform for a minimum of 3 months before I fuck with real money. What's a good way to do this? Should I just pay for trade view and justify the expense as a video game?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:38:40 2023 No.56181666 >>56181385 Yes but used cars are very useful important items. I'm wondering more about all the extras and collectibles in people"s lives. Which I'm guessing won't increase

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:39:15 2023 No.56181668

>>56181634
Short-term bonds are a midwit test in that if you keep piling into them you can get heemed if things change and lose out on opportunity cost. If you're trying to get more than 3-5% annual returns as safe as possible then you're looking at being a dividends chad because that's about the top of what you're going to get with a money market fund or a CD. Maybe 6% and some change if things are truly nuts.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:40:16 2023 No.56181672 >>56181666 Well, Satan, you could probably scoop up collectibles for cheap that people are selling because they have no choice and then sit on them for a few years to sell for more when times are good again.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:40:59 2023 No.56181673

>>56181602
This money is tired up for three months. I'm get a few hundred more dollars if the tbill gives the projected return.
>>56181634
This is a very recent thing with the Fed rates. I spent three days researching high yield savings accounts and CDs, only to find out that if I liquidate everything but leave the money in vanguard I get 5.28%. It's up to 5.29 today (VMFXX is the "settlement account"). It was under 4% not very long ago.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:42:11 2023 No.56181680 >>56181668 From what I understand, the yield curve is inverted so what you're saying was true, but isn't anymore.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:45:35 2023 No.56181689

>>56181673
>>56181668
Oh I see. I'm lucky in that I have about $15,000 in cash and equivalents, so I have a 2 month bond ladder going (eg every month I buy bonds that are 2 months out or less). This lets me remain liquid while still getting risk-off returns. I think we're a long way from the bottom still.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:45:51 2023 No.56181690
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>>56181652
>subtract the 3mo maturity from the 6mo maturity
>subtract the 1yr maturity from the 2yr maturity
>use the result to back-calculate the yield of the additional years when going up in bond term
okay now look at what happens if we subtract the expected return of the lower termed bonds from the higher terms, to see how much of a discount is priced in and at what time periods.
huh look at that, the inflection points are getting closer to the lower terms...

TL;DR just look at these posts from these anons
>>56181023
>>56181020
>>56181012
>>56180974

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:47:20 2023 No.56181696 File: 800 KB, 2744x1897, TheConcern.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56179891 Inverted yields tell you the world is ABOUT to end. They un-invert when it starts ending.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:47:46 2023 No.56181697 File: 173 KB, 716x1111, these amazing shadows.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] 15 minutes to movie night! Tonite's feature is Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame (2010)!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:48:13 2023 No.56181698 >>56181690 please notice that the mean effect of a recession was priced-in to happen between the 5-10 year term in JULY, and in AUGUST just 1 month later, it's firmly showing a recession being gone through within 5 years and expansion onward.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:49:24 2023 No.56181703 >>56181696 bro we're synchronizing our almonds a bit rn.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:57:55 2023 No.56181739

>>56181318
I've been out of school for 21 years now. If they had any reunions no one bothered to let me know. Even if I had known I wouldn't have gone. What's fun about seeing all the girls who were hot 21 years ago all gone to hell with kids and stuff? What's fun about seeing dude's who were fit and with it all looking like middle aged fat fucks and bragging about how life turned out great for them (or turned into a pile of shat)?. Yeah I look nothing like I did 21 years ago either. I'm bald, gray in my hair, so meh.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 02:59:51 2023 No.56181744

>>56181689
The yields inverting is basically everyone pricing in the world ending and then when it gets sussed out and a final plan is decided to handle the situation they un-invert as the pain has been more or less priced in with the information available to the market. We're fully in "everyone and their mom is expecting line go down soon" territory given rates. Even bulls are playing it smart right now.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:00:04 2023 No.56181746 >>56181703 Ikr .. Question: Do you think the 10 year rate will pause here and the 2 year will fall, with them all falling till zero? Or something else?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:00:58 2023 No.56181748 File: 2 KB, 709x33, cytube room.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Movie night movie night, get in here! Tonite's feature is Detective Dee and the Mystery of the Phantom Flame (2010)!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:09:29 2023 No.56181786 File: 48 KB, 898x577, sdfdsf.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181746 The best parallel I can come up with is Jan 2007 https://youtu.be/SdAuHSKtpmk?si=Sm7ufGaPgbLvkfN6

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:22:08 2023 No.56181816 File: 122 KB, 900x653, 1695524719835332.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >Futures

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:25:01 2023 No.56181821 >>56179727 Based broken clock

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:25:44 2023 No.56181823
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>>56181746
>>56181786
I really should have just presented the data as a delta centered at 0. easier to look at
I'm really just looking at the math of how the
>tide comes in
on an inverted yield curve.

>6 month shows a contraction priced in going from JULY to AUG

>2yr, 5yr, 10yr from AUG still show contraction, but less priced in as in JULY, meaning a higher likelihood the contraction will have been digested by these maturities.

>December 2007
The SP500 started dumping 4 quarters before the GDP contraction in 2008.

please try to understand the autism. do not fight it.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:28:56 2023 No.56181834
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>>56181823
the reason this is so important is that you cannot simply compare the 2yr and 10yr and say 5%-4% is 1% lower... you have to calculate out the effective APR to bring 5% after 2 years down to 4% after 10 years.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:33:09 2023 No.56181849 >>56181816 FRESNO STATE BULLDOGS would booty blast both these teams. Protip: URANIUM

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:35:11 2023 No.56181858 >>56180402 Sorry mumu this is real life, the bear gets the girl

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:39:10 2023 No.56181877 File: 97 KB, 1170x642, uranium.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Uranium is getting sexy.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:39:15 2023 No.56181878 File: 1.05 MB, 1040x768, Screenshot 2023-09-23 232544.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Ever nootice that both BASED and BOIL start with "B"? Very auspicious.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:43:13 2023 No.56181891 File: 112 KB, 1200x743, 1673412695549549.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] How do I buy short term bonds <1 yr?

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:47:17 2023 No.56181906
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>>56181891
>your house was destroyed? I had a kitchen fire once
shit is too unreal. Are we meant to know it's all bullshit? Am I some crazy conspiracy theorist now? This is a joke right? I just give up.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:48:36 2023 No.56181912

>>56181834
>>56181823
>>56181786
>>56181696
Look, I know shit is going south. But I don't think the US government is going to default on it's bonds, and as far as I'm concerned, I'd be happy if it does even if it means losing a lot of money.

Having said that, should I put the IRA into three month t bills to keep it busy or should I spread it out or do different times? I'll be distributing it in January anyway. I just have to decide by Monday morning if I'm going to buy them and how much. We're only talking about a few hundred dollars here, but is there an opportunity cost? Are the yields going to go up further?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:48:51 2023 No.56181913 >>56180626 You're insanely retarded. If the wind is blowing north and I put up a sail to catch it then how the fuck is the sail not going to catch the wind from the direction of travel and cancel out?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:49:37 2023 No.56181919 >>56181891 T bills Secondary market through broker

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:50:38 2023 No.56181922 >>56181913 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tacking_(sailing)

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 03:52:31 2023 No.56181928 >>56181912 you missed the point of all those posts. they weren't meant for you to decide on bonds or not, they were using bonds as an indicator of where the market was pricing in a contraction

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:00:58 2023 No.56181963

>>56181928
>missed the point
No, I get that, but I'm too lazy and brain fried to apply the knowledge.
Like I said, it doesn't really matter. I'm just being jewish. Coincidentally I got about $52k. This means that I get the apy of 1k every week. Therefore, every hundredth point is a dollar a week, or 13 dollars until January when I move it out. So if it's currently earning 5.29%, but a t-bill will get 5.65%, I'll get an extra $478 by January. If course I'll be federally (but not state) taxed on it and that will really be about $412, but that's still more than I make in one day at work, so it's worth thinking about.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:02:59 2023 No.56181968 >>56179566 Kind of funny it was at 4500 like a week ago and then just shit the bed.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:04:38 2023 No.56181977 >>56181963 I think I'm off one decimal point. It's $42. I told you I'm brain fried.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:06:41 2023 No.56181984

>>56181912
There's zero reality in which the US defaults on its bonds, even if it did come to that they'd default domestically held bonds first to not piss off/worry the international markets and probably cut a deal with whoever they were fucking over before they did it. It's the main reason why any time I hear people talking about a default on the debt I just turn my ears off and ignore them until they're gone. The much more pressing concern would be interest payments on bonds getting out of hand but it's thus far been manageable.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:06:45 2023 No.56181985
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>>56181409
>Inflation is NOT cooling
>The Fed is NOT pivoting
>There is no "soft landing"
>Ukraine is NOT winning
>Recession avoided? It's just getting started!
>DXY is NOT stopping the pump
Forward this message to fellow CHADS, ignore if you're a libtard.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:09:07 2023 No.56181994 >>56179942 >HE BOUGHT? Tinder is literally worthless in the USA, only makes sense to use it in a place like Poland where everyone is white.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:09:47 2023 No.56181996 >>56181984 Mr. Fed still has trillions in assets they could sell to pay denbts

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:10:49 2023 No.56182000 >>56181984 Yeah, it's not collapsing, no matter how much I'd enjoy seeing that. I think I'll just put the whole $52k into 13 week t bills and forget about it till January. If rates go up even higher then I'll use my non-ira money to buy more.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:13:25 2023 No.56182008
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>>56181928
Its a relevant question though. The yield curve un- inverting is obvious and obviously it tells us the recession has started.

However Bond rates cant possibly stay where they are, especially in a recession and especially considering the amount of treasuries the banks have and the need the economy has for banks to loan.

If we expect the rates are going to drop it makes TLT and TMF a good option.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:16:06 2023 No.56182022 >>56182008 Well if the rates are going to go down, then vanguard will stop paying 5.29% on their settlement fund so I should grab the t bills for sure then, huh? Or is there a better safe move?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:19:31 2023 No.56182038 >>56180402 >she takes a selfie fucking kek, women

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:23:29 2023 No.56182052

>>56182022
No one knows bro, go take a position based on what you know. But its risk off / flight to safety I think.

For the first time in history Bonds have dropped two consecutive years in a row and the 10 year is down 40%. We are in uncharted waters.

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:28:00 2023 No.56182065
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>>56182052
wait so rates are going up in spite of the fed because people need cash and are running to cash in their worthless bonds, squ-...
sque...
SQUEEEZING THE BONDS
HIGHER?????????

THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!
THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!
THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!
THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!
THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!
THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!
THE BOND SQUEEZE
>HAS NOT BEEN SQUOZE!

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:29:43 2023 No.56182072
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>>56182065
WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
>WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE

WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
>WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
>WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
>WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE

WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE
>WE ARE ABOVE THE TARGET FED RATE

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:33:47 2023 No.56182085
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bond rates are going higher also because cashing in a bond before maturity requires discounting, and the bond market is currently heavily shorted, making new bonds require even higher rates to attract buyers with all these available half-matured bonds around.

and that makes the half-matured bonds worth even less so the discounts at the bond market are going to get greater and greater as the bigest bank run of all time happens before your eyes.
eyes
eyes a wonderful color, they make so sweet

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:35:27 2023 No.56182093 File: 9 KB, 195x195, 1618877746216.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] I'm peak downe's right now LLLLLLLLLL F F F GGGGGGGG G G G G

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:36:33 2023 No.56182099 File: 37 KB, 723x560, holders_treasury_debt (1).jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56182065 "People" selling their Bonds doesn't matter. Its Foreign Governments that shift bond prices. Foreign countries need USD at the moment.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 04:43:19 2023 No.56182117 File: 79 KB, 1084x788, 65497898965191.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] Not sure if I should long or short this chart desu.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:06:45 2023 No.56182193 >>56182117 Well yeah, you need some of them fundamentals to go with it, son. Fundamentals.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:07:20 2023 No.56182196 Wake me up when spy is 250

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:10:46 2023 No.56182208 >>56182196 Nope, you need to set an alarm for yourself.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:21:07 2023 No.56182245 >>56182196 Rest assured I will be fiercely bobo posting if such a thing occurs

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:23:04 2023 No.56182254 >>56182085 At the end of the day imo the money will be there to cap rates if the risk premium justifies it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:28:24 2023 No.56182275 File: 651 KB, 734x689, 678908765432345678998.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56182085 Bonds still haven't entered the capitulation phase. You'll know it when you see it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:31:22 2023 No.56182285 File: 17 KB, 840x789, 1695334274419879.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56182196 Why would you do that when could buy it for 185?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:38:18 2023 No.56182307 >>56179802 Coz avg human has an attention span of a few mins.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 05:42:02 2023 No.56182314 >>56182307 >posting this illiterate garbage commit suicide immediately

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 06:02:19 2023 No.56182369 >>56179868 >>56179802 There's literally an ETF inversing Cramer and it's down from its IPO several months ago. Haters btfo by facts and logic

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 06:12:14 2023 No.56182396 >>56182085 Feels comfy to buy monthlies at 5%

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 06:38:17 2023 No.56182467 >>56182369 It's gone down from $24 to... $24. It's literally a memestock, I don't know what you expect

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 06:58:07 2023 No.56182517 >>56182000 Trips confirm it's a solid idea

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:10:38 2023 No.56182550 File: 38 KB, 900x804, 245678654345678908765.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >There's "people" in this thread unironically buying government debt.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:13:05 2023 No.56182563 File: 86 KB, 505x900, 7b7122e84b8733df.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56180447 Mcdonalds has made me a lot of money

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:40:02 2023 No.56182634 >>56179942 Ari's cute. Would definitely rough her up and then ghost her.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 07:47:29 2023 No.56182652 >>56182550 What do you think happens to the stock market if the US ever isnt able to pay its debts?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:03:47 2023 No.56182697 File: 811 KB, 624x792, 2134567898765432123456532198.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56182652 If US isn't able to pay its debt bonds will be sold and other assets will be bought.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:12:31 2023 No.56182717 >>56182517 Lol, that's as good as indicator as any! Can't believe I didn't notice.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:16:39 2023 No.56182732 File: 19 KB, 567x405, 1616419102249.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56181877 >S&P 500 2,857.42 Ah sweet, I screenshot from two more weeks™ into the future

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:20:24 2023 No.56182739 >>56182732 *a screenshot

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:25:07 2023 No.56182751 File: 117 KB, 657x527, smug.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56182085 >>56182052 I do not understand what this means, so i am just going to buy gold and silver to become my own central bank

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:27:20 2023 No.56182757

>>56182697
Well, first of all the Bonds would be worthless so you would have to wear the loss. Second of all if 93.5 trillion dollars went missing it may have an effect on anything that has a value. Thirdly, you would be too busy fighting of your friendly black neighbours for baked beans to worry about money.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:33:17 2023 No.56182769 >>56181877 Thats the paper price. Hugely manipulated. If the Uranium isnt in your home safe then its not really yours.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:35:19 2023 No.56182775 >>56182769 C-can you do that?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:35:45 2023 No.56182777 File: 168 KB, 1000x887, Uranophane-CR127185-02.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56182769 This, get some crystals

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:36:08 2023 No.56182780
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>>56182757
First of all I don't own bonds. Second of all 93.5 trillion dollars wouldn't go missing they'd just switch owners. Thirdly I don't have black neighbours.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 08:39:35 2023 No.56182790 >You can legally own up to 3.3lbs of unprocessed uranium ore without any special licensing or authority as a US citizen Neat, figured it'd be a lot more strict than that.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 09:00:46 2023 No.56182840 is TSMC being slept on? if one assumes exponential growth in the intelligence of AI?

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 09:21:39 2023 No.56182898

>>56181485
Suburban public school in one of the wealthiest Republican areas of Ohio. There were a lot of rich kids, a lot of super conservative evangelicals, some farmers, some drug dealers, so a little all of the above. Some of my old friends founded companies. I think I could profit from this, business & financially speaking of course.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 09:39:24 2023 No.56182939 >>56182840 leave it for the pension funds, the whole B2B side of semis has been dead money so far

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 09:50:44 2023 No.56182955 >>56182790 There's shit all actual uranium in it, particularly the boomy kind

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 09:57:56 2023 No.56182974

Wtf is this now PMG fags are going for uranium and are promoting physical Uranium. As if anybody cares about that. I would sell my gold if it weren't gifts by my grandsparents and use the money on stocks and other PAPERs to make more MONEY out of it and not hold some fuckin metal at my home. Now expanding this to Uranium is even worse than PMGfags. The state sure just want yoink it from you if you want to pricegouge them in case they would need it.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 09:58:57 2023 No.56182978 >>56182974 won't

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 10:35:21 2023 No.56183063 Any SOXL or TLT bagholders in here

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 10:40:35 2023 No.56183082

>>56183063
>holding leverage etf-shares
I actually believe this is an US phenomenon, as well as 0dte.

In EU you can trade the underlying with 5x leverage at some brokers. Yeah, you have overnightfees (though CMC actually had 5x etfs til june 2023 without overnight fee, but it probably was too costly for them so they changed that now). But you don't have the risk of decay. SOXL being 1/3 of 2021 highs, despite the AI bullshit run is laughable. Imagine having bought SOXL at the top in 2021. If you had bought NVIDIA instead you would have gotten out without losses and even gains. With SOXL, your money just MELTS away.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 10:42:11 2023 No.56183087 >>56183063 im not a baggie, ive been buying dips on tlt. I have been checking price history and maded some reference point decisions.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:03:17 2023 No.56183141 bullish for KO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzkwB2knvz4

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:09:12 2023 No.56183165
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>deep in sleep
>suddenly deep in my dreaming consciousness i hear
>WAKE UP KIDS
>WE GOT THE DREAMERS DISEASE
>AGE FOURTEEN, THEY GOT YOU DOWN ON YOUR KNESS
>SO POLITE, WE'RE BUSY STILL SAYING PLEASE
>FRIENEMIES, WHO WHEN YOUR DOWN AIN'T YOUR FRIEND
>EVERY NIGHT WE SMASH A MERCEDES-BENZ
>FIRST WE RUN, AND THEN WE LAUGH 'TIL WE CRY
>can't sleep or go back to bed now

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:09:52 2023 No.56183168 File: 15 KB, 782x629, 3456789876543212345676765.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56183063 It's a long way down... Hold tight!

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:17:28 2023 No.56183190 >>56183165 truly one of the all-time great one hit wonders

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:22:15 2023 No.56183203 i had visions, i was in them i was looking into the mirror to see a little bit clearer the rottenness and evil in me

Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:23:23 2023 No.56183209
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>>56183168
That's TLT? The only hope is if Fed actually adheres to their dotplot, which I hope they won't, since they imply going down to 2,5 in 2025 or 2026. FUCK that, stay above 3% and go up higher again. Force the market to adjust. To live with higher rates. This fuckin 0% interest policy only benefits rich. Don't come at me as
>commie
There are many poor or middleclass people who aren't commies and they still are being hurt by high inflation.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:23:59 2023 No.56183212 >>56183165 >>56183190 How poetic. Here's another one hit wonder you faggots might appreciate. ROW ROW ROW YOUR BOAT GENTLY DOWN THE STREAM MERRILY MERRILY MERRILY MERRILY LIFE IS BUT A DREAM BUY OIL

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:31:55 2023 No.56183231 File: 16 KB, 750x628, 7876543234567898976543.png [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56183209 That was 10Y bonds. Pic is 30Y bonds. Fed doesn't give a shit what you think they'll do what they're told.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:44:50 2023 No.56183268 >>56183231 Eh, ok, calm down.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 11:50:14 2023 No.56183282 you guys are backtesting, i'm getting back shots we are not the same

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:08:41 2023 No.56183335 >>56183165 >>56183190 I never listened to the lyrics. I had to jewgle it to know what song this was. I always thought it was U2. The guy kinda sounds like 90's bono.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:11:43 2023 No.56183341 >>56182065 I'm high as fuck on mushrrooms rn and I can't stop giggling to yur post my dude it doesn't even makle sense whjat y ou're talkingabout

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:13:16 2023 No.56183346 Also, it's 5am, holy fuck I can go to mcdonalds and get goy slop for breakfest, here I go get me some hot cakes

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:16:58 2023 No.56183357 i just assumed i was talking to europoors why can't we sleep bros?

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:21:22 2023 No.56183365 File: 56 KB, 550x810, 2a641c0ca8bdaf8175e36869e7cdd401.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] i'm thinking of making Spam monte cristos The King would do it

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:35:31 2023 No.56183403 I'm going to bake. You guys can pay via my PayPal for my services.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:35:53 2023 No.56183404 >>56183365 Hey look my dude, ain't nothing wrong with a hot bologna sandwich, holy fuck I want one right now fuck this mcdonalds garbage

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 12:37:25 2023 No.56183406 Fresh >>56183405 >>56183405 >>56183405

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 13:05:30 2023 No.56183479 File: 885 KB, 3706x2400, elvis-presley-performing-517213190-58b5cefd5f9b586046d0a1ad.jpg [View same] [iqdb] [saucenao] [google] >>56183365 Fuck yeah he would, and he might even top that shit with a slathering of peanut butter.

>>	Anonymous Sun Sep 24 18:37:42 2023 No.56185107 I stopped ultra bearing for a year. Is it time? Monday is that jew holiday buy day so I'm guessing we dip hard? Are jew holidays still the best indicator on indexs?

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