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lt's Over Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiOs3-llXq5CGQPNHf_3-nYZ4d_w7OP52

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/988
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/suicide-prevention
https://www.fcc.gov/988-suicide-and-crisis-lifeline
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

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>> No.56166606

Is this the one?

>> No.56166613

>>56166606
Over
All of it

>> No.56166615
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>>56166569
Basically exactly what Peter Schiff has predicted

>> No.56166628

How come my nvax calls went up today while underlying went down?
Anything to do with TSA checking passengers for coof?

>> No.56166650
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>>56166594
>this is the end
>beautiful friend
>this is the end
>my only friend
>the end

>> No.56166656
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If bond yields are so important you should be able to explain the importance to me like I'm a retard. I'm waiting.

>> No.56166659

>>56166594
oil to the moon xD

>> No.56166660
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>>56166628
Time to get VAXXED

>> No.56166662
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>>56166650
>of our elaborate plans
>the end
>of everything that stands
>the end

>> No.56166668

>they baked

>> No.56166670

>>56166594
Anime girl /smg/ is better

>> No.56166671

srsly tho
it's over

>> No.56166672
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>>56166650
THE BLUE BUS IS CALLING US
>jannies sell SPY

>> No.56166679

>>56166628
I also saw that they're restarting the "give people free coof tests to drive up numbers" program.

>> No.56166682
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>>56166672
Father?
>what is it so-
I'M GOING TO KILL YOU

>> No.56166685

>>56166671
https://youtu.be/xmLv8rfunPo

>> No.56166687

>>56166656
no

>> No.56166690

>>56166671
Why are bond-yields continue blowing out? Something is up

>> No.56166698
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>>56166685
>OUT THE WINDOW

>> No.56166705
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I had puts that would’ve printed 1,000% today that I sold at a 10% gain and I can’t contain my frustration. I think my sister is trying to stage a gambling intervention with me. Everyone thinks I’m insane. I feel insane. If I made profit I’m a genius, if I don’t I have a problem. Fucking hell

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>>56166656
>>56166687
I'll take a stab. Bond market mcap vs cumulative total of all stonk markets mcap.

>> No.56166707
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I love red weeks. Great buying opportunity. And I always buy.

>> No.56166708

bull bros. we're back. BOJ bailed us out. all in NVDA TSLA at open. squeeze em.

>> No.56166717

>>56166690
>Why are bond-yields continue blowing out?
The Bidenomics narrative + overvalued stock market created the dominant "no landing" scenario. If the economy is growing at 10% nominal like the Atlanta Fed says, why buy a 10 year bond at 4%? If NVDA is just gonna double each earnings season then bonds aren't desired.
Consensus narrative is that the US economy is the strongest in history so higher yields are justified. We need recession fears to get back to reality

>> No.56166718

>>56166708
What are you hallucinating about?

>> No.56166727

>>56166718
see? they don't even know what i'm talking about. squeeze em.

>> No.56166730

>>56166717
By that logic the stockmarket should go up. It obviously doesnt

>> No.56166732

>>56166708
I wouldn't be surprised if there's another +20bps day for treasury yields tomorrow but indices close green because of the BOJ

>> No.56166733
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Bond
James Bond

>> No.56166738

>>56166706
>>56166687
Fail

>>56166717
We aren't getting a recession tho

>>56166718
>>56166708
>The Bank of Japan maintained ultra-low interest rates and a pledge to keep supporting the economy until inflation sustainably hits its 2% target, suggesting it was in no rush to phase out its massive stimulus program

>> No.56166742

>>56166730
>By that logic the stockmarket should go up
It's gone up for a year straight anon

>> No.56166748

>>56166738
>We aren't getting a recession tho
Okay then you're getting the 10 year yield at 6-7%+, mortgages at 10%+ and rates held high forever.

>> No.56166751

>404'd
ANIME /SMG/ AM IS DEFEATED

>> No.56166755

>>56166730
It's been red because of Cramer 101 nonsense where Big Money uses their own media companies to push a bearish narrative and then sells retail retards puts

>> No.56166757

Sometimes I hate the market. I stuck to a play being short bonds until the market fell asleep at the wheel for months. Decided to redeploy capital and finally after a fed meeting reality set in and bonds woke up.

>> No.56166761

>>56166742
The Nasdaq had its high two months ago

>> No.56166763

>>56166748
Nah we're going to get lower inflation readings and the Fed attitude will shift and suddenly the odds of rate hikes and cuts will change yet again

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>>56166761
>ayo gimme some a dem Nasdaqs

>> No.56166767
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56166767

>Decades of under investment in: OIL & Coal, refining capacity, Kazatomprom, Industrial metals, dry bulk shipping & tankers has made these assets very attractive.
Do what you will with this information.

>> No.56166769

>>56166738
OK. Thanks for posting

>> No.56166771

>>56166707
>tfw no 13%bf ifbb akg

>> No.56166775
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56166775

TSX 3Y, is Canada uninvestible?

>> No.56166780

>>56166761
>The Nasdaq had its high two months ago
Yeah and it barely dropped from there
>Nah we're going to get lower inflation readings and the Fed attitude will shift
The Fed will not shift until unemployment rises. Inflation is just one half of it, they also want to balance supply and demand for jobs. Higher unemployment means a recession. Low unemployment means no cuts and very restrictive rates

>> No.56166788

Went on a first date tonight.

BMBL date. Bumble. I’ve Been there done that. Wasn’t nervous. I’ve sucked on some toes in my life and vomited on them on dates. Handled it fine.

But today I lost it. I walked out on a date. She literally was incapable of making actual conversation. She literally just sat there and stared at me and nodded. I am pretty extroverted despite being a faggot who posts on 4chan about his dates, so I was able to carry the entire conversation for 90 minutes, having to step in every time there was a terribly awkward silence.

After an hour and a half of that shit I just sat there quietly for a minute straight and then told her that I don’t feel like she’s putting in any effort to make a real conversation with me and that she’s wasting my time. I drove 30 mins to see this cunt. We were at some semi casual cafe place where you go to the counter to pay afterwards and I just paid for my own food and left. She kind of had the same face but did raise her eyebrows. I feel like she was some SSRI zombie.

Ticker symbol BMBL. Ticker symbol MTCH as well since it’s not like the situation is any better on MTCH apps (like tinder)

I thought women grew out of this by college but holy fuck, women who are relatively attractive put in ZERO effort to make any fucking conversation because men will do anything for a woman who isn’t a fatass ugly bitch

>> No.56166789

>>56166780
>Yeah and it barely dropped from there
Its down almost 10%
All time high is even worse. Was two years ago

>> No.56166794
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56166794

>>56166763
>we're going to get lower inflation readings
>With 90 oil flowing through into PPI
Anon, I....

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>>56166788

>> No.56166804

>>56166789
>Its down almost 10%
Yeah and it's still way overvalued because of the Bidenomics + AI narrative frenzy

>> No.56166814

>>56166788
>finds the one woman who shuts the fuck up
>complains

>> No.56166817

>>56166780
>Higher unemployment means a recession
Not necessarily. Why would the Fed purposefully cause a recession by influencing certain unemployment numbers?

>>56166794
Consumer gas prices have been pretty stable for like two years, that's not going to cause any huge freak outs

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>>56166788
>>56166814

>> No.56166821

>>56166804
What I mean is, you are saying money is flowing out of bonds into stocks.
But that doesnt seem to be the case
You also mentioned NVIDIA, which is down almost 20%

>> No.56166829

The USA cannot service its debt and accumulate more debt at these rates. Any boomer retard that thinks it's like the past is delusional.

>> No.56166838

>>56166788
Its why I give my own brand of shittest/vibe check and make sure the girl is a brat since I enjoy a struggle with a snuggle

>> No.56166839

>>56166817
1. They've been steadily climbing all year.
2. Diesel has and is continuing to spike like a motherfucker the past two months. That hits trucking and agriculture - costs passed on with a short and not-at-all-variable lag.

https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_gas_price
https://ycharts.com/indicators/us_retail_diesel_price

>> No.56166840

>>56166829
They increased the debt about 1 trillion in just the last three months.

>> No.56166841
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56166841

>>56166794
Its already over

>> No.56166843

>>56166817
>Why would the Fed purposefully cause a recession
To balance the labor market and bring inflation down to their target. Powell said a soft landing is not his base case
>>56166821
>you are saying money is flowing out of bonds into stocks but that doesnt seem to be the case
Yields and stocks have risen together since BTFP was announced after the March banking crisis. Before that TLT and QQQ were moving together in tandem, but after March they diverged with TLT going lower and QQQ going higher. Yields already broke their October 2022 highs but the Nasdaq is no where near it's lows
>You also mentioned NVIDIA, which is down almost 20%
After being up like 400%

>> No.56166847

>>56166829
https://simplicable.com/economics/fiscal-dominance

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56166856

Please laugh at me and call me a baby bitch boy with baby bithc boy hands. I fucking suck.

>> No.56166865

>>56166814
Are you fucking autistic. Have you ever tried going on a date with a bitch who doesn’t know how to hold a conversation. You just sit there in silence?

I’m not saying I love talkative women, there are women who also DO NOT KNOW WHEN TO SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT THEMSELVES and talk about other subjects that are beyond the ether of their own existence.
Women are horrible conversationalists I think . They either don’t know how to talk or say anything or they just ramble about themselves without any regard for what you say

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>>56166865
Plz halp

>> No.56166873

>>56166829
Lmfao the US doesn't have to do jack shit about its "debt". Who does it owe the debt to???

>>56166843
Powell also said yesterday that they're basically considering pausing or cutting at this point but they just need to wait for more data to make sure that inflation is "actually coming down" (maybe not the exact quote but that's what he was saying)

>>56166865
Bro as soon as you realized that she was just the pretty + dumb type you should have started moving things towards fucking her and never talking to her again. Probably could have had her on her knees within an hour.

>> No.56166878

>>56166838
What is your version of the shit test / vibe check?

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>>56166841
Yeah, they don't roll out BTFP or the Inflation Reduction Act (kek) fails or Biden grovels on the oil front nine months earlier, I think we make it. I think that inflation genie could get put back in the bottle.

Alas, it was not to be. And now we see The Crisis play out.

>> No.56166890

>>56166847
Yes I too read Arthur Hayes newsletters and the US is going to go full Japan and cuck all the institutions into helping out their yield curve control.

>> No.56166892

>>56166869
UVXY is a terrible trade what are you doing
>>56166873
I’m looking for a gf unironically I’m not here to fuck because I’ve spent like 4 years in a row just cumming in retarded whores and now I’m trying to actually date a non-retard

>> No.56166893
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56166893

TAKE OFF EVERY ZIG! IN THIS MOMENT WHEN THE MARKET NEEDS US MOST, MUMU SHALL ANSWER THE CALL. TAKE OFF EVERY ZIG!

>> No.56166895

>>56166856
Algo buying continuation trendlines literally slipped off course today, any other day it would’ve reversed at some point

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>>56166865
>Talking to women unironically.
>>56166873
This.

>> No.56166898

>>56166892
I’m a smarty pants witch by bitch hndz. I’m selying on the monday riiiiiiip

>> No.56166900

>>56166890
Oh I just Googled the term to find that page. Anyway the point is we've still got plenty of furniture to burn as firewood.

>> No.56166903

>>56166843
So, you're saying the 30 year bond yields are closing in on 5% because the stock market, which is lower than it was two years ago, is too attractive?

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>>56166705
>I had puts that would’ve printed 1,000% today that I sold at a 10% gain and I can’t contain my frustration.
Broseph dwelling on "I COULD HAVE XYZ IF I JUST ABC" is a gambler mentality, just focus on small consistent gains. Then when you have a solid track record gradually crank up the position sizes. If you can consistently make money and not lose money every week you're unironically going to make it.
Everybody wants to make it off of one lucky jackpot, think about treading carefully and gradually making it step by step.

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Is “fed cook” going to reck premarket?

>> No.56166919
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>futures
WE'VE BEEN SEARCHING FOR SO LONG
TO FIND THE PLACE WHERE WE COULD BELONG
WE ALWAYS DREAMED OF BETTER THINGS TO COME
AND TURNED OUR FACES TOWARDS THE SUN

https://youtu.be/4sWmdXqXgkw

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>>56166883
Pray we get steady high inflation... if debt destruction and deflation happens you will be Joe Biden to load the helicopters.

>> No.56166932

Yoooo, but what if, tomorrow spy goes back over 440?

>> No.56166937

>>56166932
Probably will

>> No.56166948

Bros, if you want a quick laugh check the performance of German stocks for the last 10 years.

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>>56166948
Thing is only the US market has been going up since 2008 most other developed and emerging markets in USD terms are still bellow 2008 levels. "Stocks only go up" they say.

>> No.56166966

>>56166932
>440

420 is more likely.
blaze it.

>> No.56166975

>>56166966
SAFE banking act is getting voted on next week. Considered bipartisan and the last political win that both parties want to claim.
>MSOX

>> No.56166980

>>56166948
The nips were ahead of us all. The Nikkei only broke above 30,000 in like 1990 and 2023.

>> No.56166981

>>56166962
NGL I wish other countries had better tradfi markets because I do all cryptoshit offshore and it would be easier for banking purposes.

>> No.56166988

Towing companies are fucking detestable subhuman garbage honestly

>> No.56166995

>>56166988
Yeah, they get attacked by niggers though, so it balances out.

>> No.56167001

>>56166788
How do you even get dates off them apps hahaha I match with people and send them a message but get no responses back

>> No.56167002

>>56166948
Seems to be up 50%. Not sure, what your point is

>> No.56167008
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>futures

>> No.56167009

OPEN THE MARKETS!!!

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>futures

>> No.56167016
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Can a bond anon please explain how exactly a nation (like Japan for example) does yield curve control and what's stopping US from doing it too?

>> No.56167018

>>56167009
Futures are always open. Well, except when they're not.

>> No.56167026

>>56167016
Japan has low inflation. All that money printing only works as long as you dont have inflation.
Thats the big issue. Fed is out of bullets

>> No.56167027

>>56166995
niggers run the towing company, they can’t read the fucking signs and just tow your car anyway and make you pay, despite it being legally parked.

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>futes

>> No.56167030

>>56167016
Do you want to see 9% CPI again? Because you'd see 9% CPI again.

Japan's central bank prints unlimited money, however much it takes, to keep their 10 year bond below the (previously 0.25%, then 0.5%, now 1%) cap. The policy can apply to more than one duration and the cap can be various degrees of soft or hard, but that's the idea.

You just print money to keep number down. No matter how much debt the government issues.

>> No.56167038

>>56167027
>niggers run the towing company
Not where I live.

>> No.56167041

>>56166903
Yes, and the economy in general. Growth expectations are insane and pulling up yields. The Atlanta Fed was predicting 5.9% real GDP growth. The AI narrative pumped megacap tech to all time highs

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>>56167016
Governments sells bonds if there's no buyer at the YCC interest rate instead of offering a higher interest rate at the auction the central bank buys the debt. US could YCC don't think they will.

>> No.56167051

>>56167016
The BoJ (Japan's Fed equivalent) buys and sells bonds to ensure yields stay within a predefined range.

>> No.56167055

>>56167041
Stock market is lower than it was two years ago. Youre sniffing glue

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56167059

If people reallbelieve its over then why not buy puts? There's this odd fascination of sitting on the sidelines watching the happening instead of participating in it

>> No.56167060

>>56167059
I have $20k in sqqq right now

>> No.56167061

>>56167055
It's barely lower and now we have QT plus high rates. It should be way lower. Stocks reached their highs from unlimited QE and ZIRP. There's no reason to be near those levels now

>> No.56167068

>>56167059
Cause overnight, for reasons never clear in advance, the Fed *will* do YCC. Behind the scenes, unannounced, maybe in some other form, but they'll rev up the printer to keep their jobs.

Your puts get heemed, bankers and donors are saved, and line goes up.

>> No.56167070

>>56167061
Look, the bond market is huge. There is no way its falling because of a meme stock like Nvidia. Thats stupid

>> No.56167077

>>56167051
>>56167030
>>56167042
How exactly does it work? Central bank buying bonds off secondary market? What if noone wants to buy the bonds at the auction?

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56167079

How would you describe your investing or trading strategy? I hold broad-market index funds.

>> No.56167086

>>56167059
Even if you know the market direction, you will get squeezed for maximum suffering. And to make more you will touch leverage, and you will get liquidated when you get squeezed.

>> No.56167087

>>56167077
No primary directly from the treasury.

>> No.56167088

>>56167079
Calls or puts at close

>> No.56167093

>>56167070

Nvidia is only strong because of AI hype and when AMD/Intel have better support for AI they'll drink the Nvidia milkshake, while there's still anything to be milked because AI is mostly trendy snake oil. The Nvidia gains will be gone in a few months and probably won't see above 400 for a few years.

>> No.56167094

>>56167077
>Central bank buying bonds off secondary market?
Yes. In fact, sometimes the program is implemented as "buy $x billion in bonds" when there are $y billion in bonds ever issued for that maturity range and $x>$y. Then the central bank owns more than 100% of the bonds ever issued on a date (that's the magic of heeming short sellers).

>What if noone wants to buy the bonds at the auction?
Then the central bank buys the entire issuance.

>> No.56167100

>>56167088
Short-term, like betting on overnight movements? On ETFs or individual stocks?

>> No.56167104

>>56167059
its called not getting involved in that. you were warned about it.

i dont think its as over as what the current narrative is suggesting. like where else are people going to put their money?

>> No.56167108

>>56167077
>>56167087
Okay so right now in US is it like this?
>federal gov issues new notes with fixed nominal value and fixed interest payments
>debt auction
>buyers are bidding for the notes by submitting price which is lower than the nominal price on the note
>can be then resold at secondary market
>whatever is not sold is purchased by FED

>> No.56167119
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>>56167108
Are you stupid?
They buy all the debt the treasury can't sell at a predetermined fixed interest rate.

>> No.56167153

I own 150 shares of LUV
I want to fire the whole c suite and board
How do I do so

>> No.56167178

>>56167059
Because puts are dogshit. Most of the time, the trend is up. The magnitude of rallies is always greater than the declines.
To get paid on puts, the market has to decline at a pace that exceeds expected volatility. You need precise timing. Much easier to be wrong and still get a payout betting on bullish movement. Much easier to sit idly and wait for those obvious bull runs.

>> No.56167179
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56167179

I covered my AMZN shorts yesterday and bought PYPL because I'm smrort

>> No.56167186

>>56167042
Fed already owns some portion of gov bonds. Is this not YCC? Why won't fed just buy more bonds off federal government right now?

>> No.56167190

>>56167100
ETF 1dte otm at or around market close hoping for a gap fill

>> No.56167198
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56167198

have we even truly begun?

>> No.56167207

>>56167186
The fed hasn't made a statement that it'll buy all the bonds issued at a certain interest rate.
The fed isn't buying more bonds right now because it's "fighting inflation".

>> No.56167218

Women owe me sex

>> No.56167220

I swear if you shit on AI and don't work at a company worth at least a quarter of a billion your opinion is literally retarded and should be ignored.

>> No.56167227
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56167227

>>56167079
I max out my 401k and IRA with SP 500 ETFs. Then buy SPY with my individual account. I'll add a risk reversal strategy (CBOE RXM) on top of the shares during certain periods for added leverage.

>> No.56167239
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>>56167178
>To get paid on puts, the market has to decline at a pace that exceeds expected volatility
Unless you buy a deep ITM put -80 to -100 deltas with only a little extrinsic, that way you can capture most of a directional move without any significant time decay or IV crush.
So you profit as long as it moves down before expiration, if it doesn't you still have any intrinsic value if it's ITM. "Pace" isn't really an issue. Checkmate, libtard.

>> No.56167240

>>56167198
>mike rowe
THE shabbos goy

>> No.56167241

>>56167220
I clean the bathrooms at the largest market cap company in the world headquarters. AI is literally retarded and should be ignored.
What do you think about that?

>> No.56167251

>>56167241
You're smooth brained. But yeah enjoy sitting on the sidelines, I'll be sitting on AI programs taking jobs and increasing margins lol.

>> No.56167257

>>56167207
Okay but it could start buying bonds at moments notice right
So staying short gov bonds (long yields) is risky

>> No.56167260

>>56167251
I clean the margins at the programs at the third largest fortune 500 company. Do you respect my opinion now?

>> No.56167262

>>56167178
>puts
Why not just buy leveraged bear ETF

>> No.56167263

>>56167260
No one ever will.

>> No.56167297

>>56167263
I ignore work at a quarter of a billion literally retarded AI companies - what about now?

>> No.56167316

>>56167257
They could but don't think they will.
I'm not bullish on bonds,

>> No.56167318

dump is over. time to accumulate for the huge pump

>> No.56167324
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56167324

i posted in the old thread just now

>> No.56167325

>>56167178
I agree that it's better to be bullish longterm and not try to time dips/runs. But you can go deep ITM on puts to create synthetic short shares. Or neutralize your long position if you have a margin account.

>> No.56167340
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56167340

no recession

>> No.56167342
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56167342

Oh god, we just finished the “return to normal” phase for Apple.

>> No.56167347
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56167347

no recession #2
historically low levels, still

>> No.56167348
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56167348

>NVDA baggies
kek

>> No.56167350

>>56167340
L A G G I N G

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>> No.56167353

higher for longer
probably both, yields and indices

>> No.56167355

>>56167350
cringe

>> No.56167356
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>>56167353
Kek this.

>> No.56167358

We need 15% to start healing. Bring it on Jerome.

>> No.56167364

>>56167358
we'll be entering the 2030s with a fed funds rate at or above (positive) 7%

>> No.56167365

>>56167353
yeah yesterday was the bottom
imagine actually believing we don't live in a clown world
couldn't be me

>> No.56167371

>>56167364
>7%
Those are rookie numbers.

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>>56167365
>imagine actually believing we don't live in a clown world
this. lol

>> No.56167381
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>>56167355
You really don't get it, do you? The efficient market hypothesis means that the crash is inevitable. The pattern in pic related is an emergent phenomenon of the market recursively pricing in its own future price actions. It's an equilibrium state. Once the pattern starts, you can't stop it because the market already priced in your reaction to its price movements. The NASDAQ looks more like this pattern right now than any other shitcoin or financial bubble I've seen in my life. Even more so than the Dow in 1929.

>> No.56167382

>>56167153
Don't take it personally, all of JETS is getting smoked.

Except SAVE lol.

>> No.56167386

>>56167381
SPY looks to be at just about the return to "normal" stage, maybe the beginning of the downside into fear.

>> No.56167398

>only a pause not a lowering
>powell promises to continue doomping fed assets
>2027 is the target for 2% inflation
arent these indications we are going to new highs? idk why people are freaking out

>> No.56167405

>>56167262
Cause those gaywads at the SEC cap ETF leverage at 3x. You can easily get double that even with longer dated options.

>> No.56167413
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>/smg/'s experts calling for capitulation back to 3500 tomorrow
>futures green

>> No.56167416
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56167416

>>56167381

>> No.56167417

>>56167413
Shill impostor. SPY 185.

>> No.56167418

>>56167413
Because nobody expected Ueda to commit sudoku.

Anyway how you been, Rocker?

>> No.56167425
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>>56167413
I'm up +361 YTD and I switched from short to long yesterday.

>> No.56167428

>>56167416
Your cope posts are priced into the denial phase.

>>56167418
That's not Rocker.

>> No.56167431

>>56167425
Congrats, you can buy a lot with $361. Even in Joe Biden's America.

>> No.56167433

>>56167405
Oh I see you are just poor.

>> No.56167436

>>56167431
lel I meant +361%

>> No.56167439
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56167439

this pattern has really only shown itself once on qqq and it was a limit down. gl bulls.

>> No.56167452

>>56167433
No, I'm just a degenerate gambler.

>> No.56167469

>>56167413
How's the new job Mr. Rockerfeller? You still working out?

>> No.56167478

>>56167452
If you truly are a degenerate gambler which is not poor you would buy bear ETFs instead of bitching how hard it is to short during downturns.

>> No.56167480
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56167480

my 401k stopped allowing me to customize my distributions. very interdasting

>> No.56167484

Redpill me on Roth IRA, is it a Jewish trap?

>> No.56167499

>UK Retail Sales Rebound With Shoppers Returning After Wet July - BBG

>> No.56167502

(@unusual_whales) :

Want to see a crazy trade?

Yesterday, someone OPENED SPLK 127 calls, for $22,000, expiring tomorrow.

Then today Cisco Systems CSCO announced acquiring Splunk for $28B, SPLK up 20%.

The contracts were $0.04 yesterday, now $18.30.

They exited today for a 45,650% return...

>> No.56167504

>>56167484
Depends. How much do you trust the tax laws of 2040's, 2050's, and 2060's America?

>> No.56167507

>>56167478
I'm not complaining about how hard it is to short. The original guy doesn't buy enough time on his options but there are legitimate reasons to go with an options strat over SPXS or SQQQ or whatever.

>> No.56167514

>>56167502
hmm... can't confirm by looking at past volume and open interest that such a trade took place...

>> No.56167515

>>56167484
Tax free gains. You should be putting in the max each year. It's only $6,500.

>> No.56167516
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56167516

short tech

>> No.56167520

>>56166775
Yes, Trudeau literally killed this nation

>> No.56167530

>>56166873
>maybe not the exact quote but that's what he was saying
more like what you wanted to hear

>> No.56167531
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56167531

SOXS to 14 by end of next week

>> No.56167546

>>56167514
they give pictures here
https://x.com/i/status/1704870849831125446

>> No.56167562

>>56167546
It was so dumb to change the name to x. Everybody still says twitter and x.com just appears untrustworthy because of all the pornsites. I don't get it. He can complain the ADL is hurting him financially, but it's not like he isn't doing so too.

>> No.56167570
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>>56167502
gary gensler boo this man

>> No.56167574
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Soft landing my ass

>> No.56167585

>>56167574
Art, modern art is so retardedly pretentious. It's laughable. I can't watch modern theater, it's just doing retarded stuff for the sake of it.

Dump or pump in 2 mins? Coinflip.

>> No.56167595
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56167595

can TLT holders pls explain their thesis

>> No.56167597

Ok enough dumping, pump now faggots.

>> No.56167607

Next level heeming for france.

>> No.56167609

no pump at all. Only heem now. Faggot.

>> No.56167610

awesome op gif lmao his facial expression is a work of art

>> No.56167612

>>56167609
A pump is to be expected, either in 2 mins, 12 mins or 22 mins.

>> No.56167613
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>>56167597
The selling with continue until morale improve.

>> No.56167616

>>56167595
Cat avatarfag on Twitter said bond go up

>> No.56167623

>>56167613
Yesterday was overreaction, and I say that as a bobo. It was really insane. And I know that October November cpi will be softer with these oil prices. December-January is when the market probably will really die, should Oil remain above 80 and even more if above 85-90

>> No.56167637
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i'm thinking bearish on nike earnings, or maybe i should just get out now

>> No.56167640

>>56167637
You have solid gains, why risk it on a coin flip

>> No.56167649
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56167649

>>56167623
>high inflation means line go down

>> No.56167662

>>56167637
UP YOU FAGGOTS

>> No.56167663

>China massive green candle
what do they mean by this

>> No.56167667

>>56167649
>High inflation certainly doesn't mean higher for longer if not even another deathhike
ok, kek.

>> No.56167673

>PMI germany and france
>France now shitting the bed

>> No.56167691

>>56166748
Anon the average mortgage since 1875 till now was 8%
These rates are 100% normal. The 0% fed funds rate was the exception not the norm.

>> No.56167699
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56167699

>US gigadumps
>EU barely moves
Just as I predicted yesterday. Oh well, we shall see in the afternoon but come on, this market is just so rigged. How is the EU suddenly so resilient? Just as the US starts dumping, the EU shows strength?

>> No.56167700

>>56167623
>Yesterday was overreaction, and I say that as a bobo.
Posts like this always make me excited to slurp a juicy dip and then I check the actual prices and nothing really happened. SPY shares are still more expensive than they were back in august and at any other point earlier this year. It's not even the lowest it's been in September for fuck's sake.

>> No.56167704

>>56167691
>normal
Imagine an athlete that has been training his whole life, then he has an injury or has to pause for other reasons and then you want him to participate in a competition in 2 weeks.

>> No.56167709

>>56167699
"gigadumps", literally less than 2% down on Nasdaq and S&P500, what the fuck are bobos talking about?

>> No.56167711

>>56167700
>spy shares
What's that? How are they more expensive than august? Are you being scammed?

>> No.56167714

>>56167699
Probably flat today and monday it will repump.
What do you mean with resilient? That was a pretty hard dump yesterday. You thought we just slide through? This market is too strong and retarded and full of hopium to just break through. This will need time.

>> No.56167715

>>56167704
Two weeks is more than adequate to heal from many 90%+ athletic injuries. Are you an athlete?

>> No.56167718

>>56167667
so? rates of gov and corp bonds still way below nominal GDP

>> No.56167720
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56167720

>>56167709
lol if you look at picrel, the S&P dumped harder through bollingers than even last year's jackson hole.

>>56167715
Yo, when I said he has an injury/other reason to pause I mean for months or years and not that he has an injury for 2 weeks. How could you misunderstand that? He didn't train for months/years and then you come up to him and ask him if he can compete in 2 weeks.

>> No.56167721

>>56166865
Anon my girlfriend doesn’t even know what she wants to eat on any given night. She reads, I turn on the tv and she spends 20minutes picking something to watch. I pat her on the head and tell her good girl. Give her dinner, we watch some retarded movie and I drink a beer and then I either stuff her right there on the couch, from behind when she is doing dishes, or give her the full treatment in the bedroom. Any time we have dinner at the table, and I ask how her day went it is about 30min of talking.

>> No.56167723

>>56167711
well, I'm looking at the Ishares S&P500 ETF for the EU markets, which basically has an identical price movement as SPY, just in euro instead of dollar.
It's currently at 426€ per share. In august it was as low as 398€ at the bottom, but for most of august it was at around 410-420€ a share, so cheaper than it is right now.

>> No.56167724

>>56167623
>Yesterday was overreaction, and I say that as a bobo
Yes but that's because the market is retarded and was deluded about rate cuts coming in two more weeks™

>> No.56167728

>>56167720
>>56167715
Ok, after rereading I wasn't clear enough. But that is what I meant. You are out of form. You aren't at "normal" conditions that you were when you were training.

>> No.56167733

>>56167704
>Comparing the economy to an athlete
I don’t entertain the thoughts of absolute fucking retards.
Look at the fed interest rate history.

>> No.56167740
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>>56166656
bond yields are how much is payed to borrow money. the yield is determined by how much growth+inflation exists(why would you lend money to someone and get less purchasing power back?). you can lend money to someone(even the govt or a company) and get 6% return with low risk. a stock does not guarantee gains. if you are trying to invest money do you want to risk your money on a stock that could maybe give you 6% growth(it could also go down)? or lend your money to the government(they own the money printer) for a guaranteed 6%?

all these different investments, real estate, stocks, bonds, gold, crypto etc...are competing with each other for investor money. people are trying to find the most gain, with the least amount of risk. when bond yields go up, it makes stocks less attractive(especially expensive stocks), because their is now a more attractive alternative

BOND NIGGAS

>> No.56167743
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>>56166707
She's got some nice back muscles there.
That said. Heels means she isn't that tall and her waist is pretty slim. Strong thighs but not a huge ass which is a plus. Looks like a body builder bod rather functional strength. I'd mog her cute little ass after I mirin her if you know what I mean. Not bear mode but more than enough muscle, weight, and core to man handle her.

As for markets, I'm only bullish. Will probably start to DCA into it if we keep going down tomorrow. I expect we'll keep downward until the end of the month then it's all earnings. Either way, gonna buy the dip.

>> No.56167745

>>56167733

Do what you want, I don't care. Keep buying.
You sound like a faggot anyways judging by >>56167721.
>Stuff her right there
What car do you drive, some faggoty pickup? Are you balding with a beard? Man, who the fuck do you think you impress with that language.

>> No.56167753

>>56167733
Don't even think of replying. I don't care. Those were rhetorical questions.

>> No.56167758
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>>56167709
Moves bigger than +-1% constitutes a "giga" in my opinion. It is really crazy how used we have gotten to such insanely big moves in either direction. Unless the index moves like crazy, people won't even cast a sideways glance.

>> No.56167762

>Japanese central bank holds 50% of all Japanese sovereign bonds
How come their system hasnt collapsed yet

>> No.56167764
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Can we fucking pump before Italy get's completely invaded? it's so tiresome

>> No.56167767

>>56167758
Nah. Giga is 5% or more.

>> No.56167796
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56167796

Yields...

>> No.56167802
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>>56167743
wtf am I reading, this is b8, right?

>> No.56167807

>>56167802
Statham is literally that body type

>> No.56167824
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56167824

This inflation/economy bump feels like a head fake, it reminds me a lot of 08 honestly, albeit with different magnitudes.

People oft focus too much on the specifics of the credit crunch or the housing crash, when ultimately this was the symptom of the credit cycle.

What I see now is people finally buying into the idea of higher rates at the long end, which implies we will see steepening and un-inversion soon

>> No.56167850

>bobos predicting another imminent financial crisis because of a mildly red day
Mental illness. Unironically.

>> No.56167862

>>56167850
Nothing ever happens, until something happens.

>> No.56167863

Dayum what happened in HK for the Hang Seng to be this up?

>> No.56167865
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56167865

Bros, I want to go back when the economy was sorta better than the shitshow we are seeing right now...

https://youtu.be/FZUfiW3W1KY?si=NukPb2k5Xz14sdSR

>> No.56167870

>>56167796
>4M up again

ahahahahahahaha I'm in danger

>>56167764
EU gonna crumble like the Roman Empire did with the fucking barbarians kek

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56167872

>>56167850

>> No.56167876

HSBC EXPECTS OIL MARKET TO REMAIN TIGHT ON PROLONGED EXTENSION OF SAUDI VOLUNTARY CUTS; ASSUMES CUTS STAY IN PLACE UNTIL 2Q24 #HSBC

HSBC RAISES BRENT PRICE FORECAST TO USD90/B IN 4Q23, USD84/B IN FY23, USD82.5/B IN 2024 #HSBC

> https://twitter.com/ResFortis/status/1705139445643550821

>> No.56167893

>>56167709
I see you also were desensitized during the daily limit downs and limit ups of the 2020 market crash

>> No.56167895

>>56167850
>just a casual -1,xx% day
>just a casual -2,61% week
>just a casual -3,83% week after -1,82%
Catch the knife, go on.

>> No.56167898

>>56167895
>>56167850
Sorry I meant -3,83% month.

>> No.56167904

>The Biden administration announced plans to remove medical bills from Americans' credit reports in a push to end what it called coercive debt collection tactics

fucking hell, then that means medical costs will skyrocket when normies simply stop paying them when there's no consequence. We are inching towards another 2008 tier crash KEK

>> No.56167913

>>56167377
Is he OK?

>> No.56167928
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56167928

>>56167895
>not having faith in the crab

>> No.56167951

>>56167904
Its hilarious how every plan/act/measure the American government does is completely superficial and only kicks the can down the street, only importance is to let normies think they done something good for them and get their vote

>> No.56167976

>>56167951
The boomerization of the current generation

>> No.56168033

Bond markets looking real sus right now kek

>> No.56168041

You guys think we might get another trading halt later this year?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trading_halt

>> No.56168047
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56168047

>>56168041
Yeah for the bond market.

>> No.56168052

>yurop mildly red
>futes green

so one or two red days is enough to price in hikes for longer ??

>> No.56168053

Really feels like brap is at the bottom.

>> No.56168064
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56168064

>>56168053
Could scam dump once more.

>> No.56168079

>futures pumping

lol what the fuck is this shit, markets are schizo right now

>> No.56168089
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56168089

>>56168053
>brap is at the bottom
Time to load up on brap, anon

>> No.56168097
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56168097

>>56168047
FUCKIN STOP THE MAXPAYNE SHIT MAN

>> No.56168100

>>56166841
This time it’s transitory

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56168122

>>56168097
>No.

>> No.56168126

>Just 30 people bought 8,000 homes in South Korea over the past five and half years, despite the government’s efforts to curb demand for multiple home ownership

>> No.56168130
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>>56168126
Sounds like a bubble.

>> No.56168135

>>56168126
Norkies will replace them

>> No.56168136

bobos been right since start of august. we are close to making a lower lows on the indeciis. russell has the most space (4%) till its a lower low.

>> No.56168143
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>Studio Ghibli sold to Nippon TV after finding no successors for Hayao Miyazaki
https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/21/media/japan-studio-ghibli-acquisition-nippon-tv-intl-hnk/index.html
Do you have anything wholesome in your portfolio /smg/?

>> No.56168148

should i slurp ASML (or any other semi supplier)? is the decreased demand priced in?

>> No.56168154

>>56168148
Just wait until the new batch of sanctions against China. That's still not priced in and will reck semis such as AVAGO, QUALCOMM, Applied or ASML

>> No.56168158
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>>56168052
Pretty much yeah. The bottom is in, m8. European PMIs are hovering around the historical bottom levels, rate hikes are reaching the end, and the US is doing just fine. Euro is counting on the US to boom its industry to revitalize its own industry. Buy or get priced out is the current sentiment

>> No.56168164

>>56168148
after recession financials are the first to heal and then its tech. wait for a bottom and a clear turn around in tech

>> No.56168166

Please tell me TTOO is going back up
Or so help me God

>> No.56168170

>>56168158
yeah just need to wait out the 2 month downtrend to reverse first.

>> No.56168182

>>56168143
What I don't get is that he said the boy and the crane was last his movie, but a couple weeks ago he was apparently in the studio trying to come up with new stuff. So I don't think he's actually done for now.

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>>56168170
Don't worry, Christmas is almost upon us and with that I see another +10% for all the indices :)

>> No.56168193

Good morning permabull chads, do I better buy the dip today or monday ?

>> No.56168194

>>56168189
And the december cpi in january will heem it back down if oil stays at 90 and even more should it go higher.

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It's over. Stocks will never go up again.

>> No.56168207

>>56168193
Today and you should just go with Crocs. After it is clear that the debt will be repaid with no problems it will shoot back to the industry average PE of 16 so you will basically more than 2x your investment in a couple of months

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>>56168194
Adjusted for inflation, oil is still kinda low. And since oil probably will stay around 90, the comparison effect will yield a low inflationary rate in the next few months (since nothing has changed).
Heh, the producer prices will suffer which will embolden the CPI. But come on m8, tis the season and people are eager to spend their hard earned cash, rr-r-r--right?

>> No.56168228

>>56168214
October and november yes, not december january, which is why I said december cpi in January.

>> No.56168233

>>56168136
>since start of august.
Bobos predicted that September would be down? What a genius move! The SP500 is 13% year to date and November and December are permabullish

>> No.56168242
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On top is the SPX to TLT ratio. On the bottom its just the SPX.

One thing to note/pay attention too is the divergences that build when the ratio line makes a new high and SPX does not follow. This was from september 5th

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>>56168242
Looks like the divergence still matter here.

>> No.56168250
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There has been a rotation into the safety trade this month, as seen here on the RS lines, some of which are starting to rise above the 50EMA lines.

>> No.56168251

>>56168233
You don't sound mad at all.

>> No.56168254

>>56168251
>Being getting fucked all year round

>> No.56168255

>>56168233
Holy cope.

>> No.56168257

>>56168189
>>56168233
last years santa rally was shit but it was terrible bobo year too.

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>>56168255

>> No.56168272
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>>56168257
2022 was the worst year for stocks and bonds in the entire history of the stock market.

>> No.56168273

>>56168254
I don't even know what you mean
Are you implying I'm short all the year? I actually am, since february EU.

>> No.56168279

>>56168272
>the worst year
>-20%
>After +50% if not more.
Holy shit, that's so bad!

>> No.56168289

>>56168279
You really don't get it. In typical bear market situations, you move your money to safer options to wait out the storm. 2022 there was no place to putt you money since the typical places that were considered safe was also getting hit massively.

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>>56168273
So you are bleeding money like a maniac

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56168294

buy in September and go away

>> No.56168296

>>56168266
>that sharp slope downward
Oh no no no. Keep coping. Hope you sold.

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>>56168296
Literally I am buying the dip. You should unironically do the same, once October ends expect a pump and to make gains

>> No.56168309

>>56168242
>>56168247
so thats quite bearish since it has previously dumped afterwards.

i tried to read about bonds but i got thru half a book and stopped reading. it was about pimco very good book.

need to re read it at some point to understand bonds better.

>> No.56168332

>>56166707
I look like this.

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>>56168290
>
Kek, I'm actually getting paid for holding shorts over night.
Keep on coping.
My capital is split, I'm holding position but I also swing with another part of it.

Picrel is from yesterday, they raised the rates since yesterday.

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>>56166775
>>56167520
Sad.
Anyhow, I'm buying more today.
Good yields are still good yields.

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>>56168335
>>56168290
This is a few days ago. See the different rate? see the more cents?

The 0,14 cents position now gives 0,19€ thanks to the september hike. I hope they hike another time.

>> No.56168350
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>>56168335
I will literally never understand this. How can they pay you to hold shorts/calls? Literally wat? Never seen that here in my crap of a country

>> No.56168352

Banking.

>> No.56168379

>>56168350
You are the swedebro from the previous posts I saw. Can you not open an account at CMC or IG? They pay you unlike Plus500 or XTB or other shtibrokers. Longing on the other hand is +6% rate, they pay a lot. Probably finance all that with the long boys overnightfees. No clue, lol.

The broker estimates for 1 Short on the DAX I receive 0,38 cents overnight, for a full, single 1 short position.

If I was to BUY/go long 1 single, full position I would have to pay 2,95€. Brutal.

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>>56168350
Not sure but it might have to do with how the more long and short positions on an instrument cancel each other out the less they have to "hedge" by actually buying the underlying so they make longs pay swaps but shorts get a bit of money instead.

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56168388

Baking soda

>> No.56168410

Why is china so green today? did I miss a news?

>> No.56168419

>>56168272
>for stocks and bonds
>and bonds
The biggest problem with QE is that it makes bonds completely useless. Which of course destroys the retirement and pension systems that we designed to rely on the 'safe" bond market

>> No.56168428

I got next bake

>> No.56168430

NEW

>> No.56168439
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Baking

>> No.56168441

i was so comfy all year just sitting out in the money markets collecting ez yields why the fuck did i reinvest into voo

>> No.56168443

>>56168380
It has to do with the ECB rate. Pretty much directly. CMC and IG have a formula, which is essentially the same on Indices.

>Formula for indices overnight funding charge = Nights held x (market closing price x trade size x ( relevant interest rate benchmark+/- admin fee*)) / 365.
>*Our admin fee is 3% for standard CFD contracts, and 3.5% for minis. If you’re long, you pay the relevant interest rate benchmark. If you’re short, you receive it.

For whatever reason in germany it is:
>Anzahl der Kontrakte × Wert pro Kontrakt × Preis × (2,5 %* +/- relevanter Benchmark-Zinssatz) ÷ 365/360

>* Mini-Kontrakte beinhalten eine Bearbeitungsgebühr in Höhe von 3 %.

So the fee is lower by 0,5%. Probably because the BoE often has higher rates than EU?

https://www.euribor-rates.eu/en/ester/
Ester is the keyrate, the short term rate which they use in their formula.

>> No.56168477
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56168477

Pooping.

>> No.56168482

>>56168477 (You) (You) (You) (You) (You)
Checked.

>> No.56168496

>>56168441
don't fud my voo bags bro I'm not baking anymore

>> No.56168506

>>56168380
There really are more buyers, at least on DAX. 59/41

There are more people shorting oil.... lol

>> No.56168512

>>56168443
Ah, that makes sense

>>56168506
>people shorting oil
and they lose about $1.50 per contract to backwardation every month while oil stays high lmao

>> No.56168527

FYI oil is going to correct, retards.

>> No.56168535

>>56168527
Explain why?

>> No.56168543

>>56168512
Yeah. I hate paying. With commodities the rates can change any day. I see that gasoline did recently again, from 70% back to 30-40%. Still insanely high compared to Indices.

>> No.56168561

>>56168535
Because I said so.

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>>56166594
>>56166594
>>56166594
>>56166594

New

>> No.56168582

>>56168535
Recession

>> No.56168583

>>56168543
I'm not talking about CMC nightly swaps, I'm talking about backwardation if you're trading forward contracts

>> No.56168602

new
>>56168600
>>56168600
>>56168600

>> No.56170247

>>56167764
I have yet to see a single public beach negro invasion landing video where there isn't a flock of white women storming their area.

>> No.56170585

>>56166594

Its a lil game you small time shits are playing that has no effect on REAL economics.
The US is headed to 8% rates on home lending and alls quiet here.
Known US econ ready to collapse and fucks are making threads about XRP.
this is GOON town.