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56124191 No.56124191 [Reply] [Original]

I got laid off and company wants me to knowledge transfer. Do I show good will and help or try to avoid as much as possible?

>> No.56124204

>>56124191
What does that mean, you train your replacement after you've already been fired?

>> No.56124208

How do you benefit from helping them?

>> No.56124217

You do the bare minimum so they don’t talk shit about you and can be safely referenced, and you try your hardest to mistrain the replacement

>> No.56124234

>>56124191
Short term it'd feel good to not give a fuck.
Long term, not sucking it up will leave you with shitty references which could potentially haunt you for the rest of your life.
Pride is a motherucker.

>> No.56124243

>>56124191
Offer to work as a consultant. State your hourly rate. Make it 1.5-2.5x what your effective hourly rate was as an employee. Do not budge when they try to jew you. You don’t work for free. It’s not good will, it’s them taking advantage of you by getting you to work for free after firing you. I can’t think of a worse way to insult someone

>> No.56124252

>>56124243
This.

>> No.56124261

>>56124204
>>56124208
>>56124217
I am the only person with knowledge on one of their apps and they laid me off. They put a senior engineer on me to suck me dry until my last day. One of the managers who coordinated my exit who the senior reports to wants me help fix this issue before my last day said they can extend my last day if it doesn't get resolved by then. I've already signed the severance letter - It doesn't have anything about knowledge transfer or coming in to the office to help.

>> No.56124269

>>56124261
Then I would say I'll help fix the issue on my own as if I was still working my job, but I'm not going to train my replacement

>> No.56124274

>>56124261
Tell them to get fucked.

>> No.56124282

>>56124243
This.

>> No.56124287

>>56124261
You dont owe them anything. I would move on. Good luck anon

>> No.56124290

I'm about 1/3 way of training and we're planning to resume on wednesday. Not sure how to tell them to leave me alone.

>> No.56124294

>>56124290
Monday*

>> No.56124317

>>56124261
Give them incorrect information then delete all the files and system 32

>> No.56124343

>>56124191
What kind of a question is this what retard would help the people who fired them?

>> No.56124344

>>56124261
You get nothing for helping them. They terminated to your employment. Would you give a massage to a guy who punched you in the face also? Stop showing up. What are they going to do? Spend their time and money hounding down every job application you put in to tell your next potential employer how naughty you were after they fired you?

Seriously, fuck them. I wouldn’t show up for a single minute after someone laid me off.

>> No.56124349

>>56124261
You're already wasting time asking about this shit. If you're good at something never do it for free. And no they can't go after you if don't do what they ask. Fuck them

>> No.56124353

>>56124290
Tell them? You don't have to tell them you just stop showing up they fired you and signed your severance letter what the fuck are you doing?

>> No.56124360

>>56124234
This is a wagie for life mentality right here btw.

Muh references.

If you don’t have at least one person in your life who can vouch for you already sucking this jobs dick isn’t going to help.

And guess what - it’s perfectly ok to say you got laid off at your last job and you made the decision at that time to focus on finding a new job, not helping the employer who just let you go hire your replacement. Nobody will even ask anything after you said “I got laid off during downsizing” anyway. Literally nobody will want to know any more than that.

The last job I got laid off from I did not ever even speak to the CEO again after that, I did not go to work the next day and I did not transfer any documents or anything.

Years later I was hired to replace the same CEO who fired me at that very same company. Karma is a bitch and you owe nobody anything, OP. Pride is worth everything.

>> No.56124380

>>56124191
Usually no. Exceptions are for a good relationship OR IF THEY FUCKING PAY YOU.
But as a general rule dont do it

>> No.56124396

>>56124380
They gave me a 2.5 week notice so I'm still on payroll.

>> No.56124407

>>56124396
Plant some bugs into that code that will take years to reverse. You need to sabotage your employer

>> No.56124411

>>56124191
give them a quote for your services as an outside contractor. im serious this will work.

>> No.56124414

>>56124396
My guy, have some dignity and stop being such a push over. You don't have to explain anything to them, just ghost

>> No.56124428

>>56124396
if you really dont want to burn bridges just give an excuse and just dont show up

>> No.56124438

>>56124414
- the VP is messaging me directly to check up on the status.
- I got 1 month of severance
- I want to just full stop ignore them on teams maybe not even turn on my laptop.

Could they just fire me before I collect my severance?

>> No.56124492

>>56124438
Boot your pc in safemode
find out how to disable all the shit that comes on (typically services.msc in run, or msconfig) that will reveal you've booted up your laptop
then boot regularly

Also, do not agree to do anything. If they talk to you about anything, tell them to refer to the severance letter you signed. Be firm. "You've terminated my employment. Don't disrespect me by implying I need to spend my time to fix your problems. I am no longer your employee, this is what YOU wanted. I need to spend my time finding a new job. I will not do work I am not contractually obligated to do. If you want to fight me on this, I will get a lawyer and do what I need to do from a legal standpoint to protect my interests"

>> No.56124517

>>56124438
>>56124492
You literally don't need to do any of this, they signed a severance letter. Read it and make sure it doesn't say "wagie must slave away training his replacement for 2.5 more weeks otherwise severance goes bye bye". If it doesn't say that, you can ghost and have legal grounds to fuck their shit up if they don't give what they signed to give

>> No.56124531

>>56124517
I was just telling him how it's possible to disable those things if he wants to
Everyone should know how to do it desu
Sometimes you'll install some crappy program (especially if its new AV software) and it'll freeze your pc
But yes, he really shouldn't be afraid to go online

>> No.56124566

>>56124261
Tell them you can help out - as a consultant.

>> No.56124579

>>56124438
You read the severance letter before signing it right ...right?

>> No.56124586

>>56124191
Just go home, they probably didn't even offer you a severance package

>> No.56124713

>>56124261
Force them to rehire you as a contractor, you stupid pushover. Make them pay you 3x your salary, at minimum.

>> No.56124850

>>56124317
Kek, this

>> No.56124902

>>56124191
you do what they put in their contract

>> No.56124908
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56124908

>>56124261
That's abuse. Couldn't be me.

>> No.56124932

>>56124261
Fuck those cunts. If the company has dirty laundry, obtain evidence and leak it to a local newspaper

>> No.56124993

Are zoomers a bunch of snowflakes who are too pampered to put in a hard day's work?!!?
>Mike Rowe shares his insight on why American's work ethic is faltering and how we’re training people for jobs that don’t exist anymore on ‘The Bottom Line.’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lGYKEWLIQU

>> No.56126458

>>56124993
If companies actually rewarded hard work maybe it would be different…

>> No.56126770

>>56124243
This unironically, if they want that knowledge bad enough they will pay. Line up another job and quit worrying

>> No.56126866

>>56124261
"Extend your last day" be fucked. If they can do that they could keep you on. You have no obligation to do shit past your last day, do like >>56124243 suggests and demand exorbitant consultancy fees, or tell them to get fucked, this is a problem of their own making.

>> No.56126896

>>56124261
Also you probably live in burgerland so this probably doesn't apply, but if you have any annual leave or paid time off due to you, take it now.

>> No.56126902

>>56124261
Take medical leave now until end of ur term citing mental health concerns. Mention how sorry u r but ur health comes first. Have a visit to MD on record before doing so. Watch their response carefully. U know wht to do if it sounds jewy

>> No.56126982

>>56124191
Negotiate a private consultant deal. You have the levarage.

>> No.56127019

>>56124261
Holy shit.
Do nothing.
Make them pay you x25 your base rate as a contractor/consultant.
Lay you off? You are the only one doing anything.
Anon get something or do nothing. Fuck these companies. They aren't people as much as they pay the politicians to say they are.

>> No.56127058

OP should just accept his wagie demands and give Mr. Goldstein exactly what he wants. A whole month of severence? based and redpilled

>> No.56128469
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56128469

>>56124261
>It doesn't have anything about knowledge transfer or coming in to the office to help.
Lmao fuck them.

>> No.56128785

>>56124191
congrats, you are a consultant now.
charge at least 2-3x your previous rate

>> No.56128798

>>56124191
congrats. you're now a boomer consultant and can charge $200/hr

>> No.56128825

>>56124531
How and where do i find what programs my employer is using to spy on me?

>> No.56129574

>>56124191
bump

>> No.56130790

Consult a lawyer. If you have to help do the bare minimum. Otherwise, fuck them all.

>> No.56130834

>>56124566
bingo

And it goes without saying rape them out the ass for your fee

>> No.56130840

>>56124243

This.

I've been in this position. They fired you, and that's fine, but now they acutely need your services. So they can pay handsomely for those services or they can go fuck themselves

>> No.56130865

>>56124191

Fuck em

I'm in my early 30s and one of the few regrets I have is I didn't tell off enough people and restrained myself for fear of career consequences

But in the end it didn't matter anyway. Do it. Fuck them

>> No.56130890

>>56124261
Refuse. Since you're already getting fired apparently and they just want you to do some bullshit without any compensation either force them to hire you but as an independent contractor who will be compensated at 4 times your original salary for the work as well as make your own hours, or just completely walk.

>> No.56130896

>>56124191
Legally in most places, an employer can only verify you worked for them and the dates you were employed. They cannot comment on what sort of worker you were, whether they liked you, disliked you, and whether or not you left on your own or were shown the door.

>> No.56131525

>>56130896
>They cannot comment on what sort of worker you were, whether they liked you, disliked you, and whether or not you left on your own or were shown the door.

so potential employers are asking these questions when they're not supposed to?
how true is this?

>> No.56131577

>>56131525
employers do all kinds of illegal shit and expect to get away with it, even when one is graduating, people in the industry just talk to expect illegal behavior and how to act with it in mind to get/keep your job.

>> No.56131874

>>56131577
can you make you statement make sense lol

>> No.56133331
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56133331

>>56124261
You can usually pay your employer the equivalent of your remaining time, to get terminated immediately.
That's what I'd usually do, that being said EU law differs a lot from US, so not sure.
But I sure as hell wouldn't be cooperative.

>> No.56133340

>>56126902
This is better than what I just said.
Skip sleep for a night, watch disgusting horror movies and go to a MD, tell him you're overly stressed because you've been laid off and have it on record that you have elevated blood pressure.
Now you even have grounds for suing.

>> No.56133404

>>56124191
I don't get it, wouldn't be smarter for the employer to make you train your replacement before laying you off? Then if you just quit you don't get shit.

>> No.56133476

Absolutely not. You built that repository. You will lease them access to it. 2 days a month, no more than 4 hours a day. 24/7 access is available with a monthly retainer of 1500$. All calls before 8 and after 3 will be answerable at a rate of 5.99 per minute with a 15 minute minimum.

Or just give it to them if you feel the need but I wouldn't.

>> No.56133951

>>56124191
good will after being told to basically fuck off? LMAO fuck no it's time to spite them

>> No.56134198

>>56131525
Employers can ask, cajole or try to persuade a contact to reveal more info about a potential candidate, but it's gotten to be enough of a liability that the trend is for company referrals to come from the HR or sometimes the legal departments only.
And from a hiring standpoint, why would you bother? Are you going to believe some complete stranger's opinion about a different stranger? It's a waste of your time.
Private and social networking is a different story.

>> No.56134229

>>56124438
>- the VP is messaging me directly to check up on the status.
hes doing this to pressure you. unironically stop helping them but dont fuck up the relationships. Ask them to hire you as a consultant, Thats when the real ass raping begins. You can get huge sums of money

>> No.56134311

>>56124261
fuck em

>> No.56134318

They outsourced (U.S) all of our jobs to India.

>> No.56134357

>>56124261

Offer your services as a contractor and ask for 100X the rate.