/smg/ stock market general

[Anonymous No.56098863]

proper links edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Live Streams:
https://www.newslive.com/american/cnbc.html
https://www.newslive.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options:
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars:
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/

previous /smg/ >>56096457

[Anonymous No.56098868]

[Anonymous No.56098872]

First for WAIT ON THA BOIL DIPPARINO

[Anonymous No.56098881]

manic episode kicking in again, I'm literally the trading god
sell everything tomorrow

[kill simps No.56098885]

that should have been the final /smg/.

[Anonymous No.56098893]

>>56098868
Where is that feed from?

[Anonymous No.56098897]

>>56098885
we'll this is currently the worst smg ever

[Anonymous No.56098901]

>>56098893
sneed

[kill simps No.56098910]

>>56098897
Agreed

[Anonymous No.56098913]

>>56098893
The market ear
Got by signing up for a zerohedge pro account

[Anonymous No.56098919]

No one will know who I was in the previous thread.

[Anonymous No.56098922]

>futures

[Anonymous No.56098933]

>they don't read wallstreet on parade regularly
Amateurs

[kill simps No.56098946]

>>56098933
Dafuk is this boomer 1980s web shit

[Anonymous No.56098950]

found one interesting long.

next gonna check is there any good shorts

[Anonymous No.56098953]

>ARM at $51
Kek who is buying this overpriced meme?

[Anonymous No.56098964]

Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right.

[Anonymous No.56098968]

Is high inflation bad?

[Anonymous No.56098970]

I'm afraid to invest. Investment fund is down 13% since last year. Recovery is slow.
I have 16K cash that I'm terrified of doing anything with.
Is the bull here to stay and shit all over my house?

[Anonymous No.56098974]

>>56098876
See this I could somewhat agree with but then you have to consider that the average person knows fuck-all about anything finance related. It would take a full on collapse to break the spell the bread and circuses have on everyone, anything short of that and it can be explained away or memoryholed pretty easily. I see that we're in a recession by the classical definition and it will get worse and there will be a correction soon, but not a crash. You're talking maybe one in a thousand people that actually knows what the federal reserve is and what it does and how currency actually works, the rest will just blame banks or not care because they have football and chicken wings and don't live somewhere that'll have it worse.

If we're talking who's about to get fucked up the ass you should mention europe well before the US. They're actually really fucked and could see a crash.

[Anonymous No.56098981]

>>56098970
I meant bear. I'm tired, /biz/cuits. So, so tired.

[Anonymous No.56098991]

>>56098970
staying in cash is good when the market is being fake and gay

[Anonymous No.56098992]

>>56098946
Some very based journalists that made their own website to publish their material to after getting numerous threats and death threats for trying to publish it in traditional channels. If you want an actual overview of the markets you should be reading them regularly, and they've got some great stuff in their older catalogue too.

[Anonymous No.56099022]

[Anonymous No.56099025]

>>56098968
not as bad as drunk inflation

[Anonymous No.56099026]

>>56098970
it is fairly bearish as it is now. A lower high is in play on the daily which could result it price being pushed down. It's not so clear on faster timeframes though like the 4h.

[Anonymous No.56099029]

So what's the plan for the correction/crash?
Hold cash? Metals?

[Anonymous No.56099032]

>>56098991
Even if I pump within a realistic limit now I'm not even beating inflation.
My cash is losing value every day. I'm hobomaxxing just to keep my existential terror at manageable levels.

I hate this market. It is indeed fake and gay and fake. Also gay. Not even fake gay but just straight up gay and fake.

[Anonymous No.56099046]

>>56098970
dude every bank offers like 5% on your cash minimum
also bonds

[Anonymous No.56099047]

>>56098953
I bought 1 (one) share to see what happens

[Anonymous No.56099049]

Damn it /biz/ I blew up my account with AAPL calls again. Fucking piece of shit. I'm going back to penny stocks.

[Anonymous No.56099064]

>>56098992
I guess now that they are publishing there then they are safe and the baddies are leaving them alone to tell their totally true and accurate things that were previously needing to be silenced because they were so totally true and accurate on those other websites but at this one it's fine now.

[kill simps No.56099069]

>>56098974
>It would take a full on collapse to break the spell the bread and circuses have on everyone,
Hear me out: the collapse has already happened (as you acknowledged) and is still filtering through society, has already impacted the lower classes severely (idk how they're not rioting) and is going to reach the middle class big time in March 2024 as i mentioned in the previous thread. Joe Normal who has a 35K job is grumbling at this point but can still afford food and housing and fuel bills. But what Joe Normal doesn't see coming is mass layoffs.

But yeah the fact that Joe Normal and Co don't know fuck all about finance isn't going to save them from getting fucked, nor should it. People need to become accountable for the trash they allow into power.
And yeah of course Europe is more fucked. I mentioned watching China in the previous thread, they're the most fucked atm, very soon Ching Chong Winnie is gonna *need* that Taiwan campaign to boost his economy.
This is all in large part thanks to contraction of the Eurodollar system which is in turn leading to deflation in the global economy. I know I keep saying this but if you're not watching Eurodollar University at this point you're ngmi.

>>56098992
Seems too boomerish for me.

[Anonymous No.56099070]

>>56099047
Gl anon!

[Anonymous No.56099076]

>>56099049
>Fucking piece of shit
*Fucking piece of *gay* shit.

[Anonymous No.56099091]

>>56099046
Best rates for short term deposits here are 3,6% right now. Most traditional banks here offer a max of 2,4%.
I got a good stack in those just to quell my fears but it's not nearly enough to offset what I lost in longs. I'm hodling but I'm sweating embryos here.
State bonds here caused a fucking frenzy since they offer 2,5% and raked up like 2,5B in a week.
Sign of the times I guess, but I'll be fucked if I use my personal acc. to fund the fucking state.

[Anonymous No.56099106]

>>56098974
Fuuuuuuuck I got 80% of my portfolio in Europe. Am I fucked? How bad are the projections? I want to hear the most outrageous schizo doomsayer shit so I feel like my fear is justified and I'm just going insane.

[Anonymous No.56099119]

>>56099106
Europe is gay. Verification not required.

[Anonymous No.56099121]

I just took the most massive shit, /smg/. I'm ten pounds lighter.

[Anonymous No.56099132]

>>56099091
>3.6%
wtf even euro banks in shithole countries like germany are offering 4% and those are known to be the most retarded banks in the world
where do you live?

[Anonymous No.56099139]

as if the streets weren't enough

[Anonymous No.56099144]

>>56099139
DESIGNATED

[Anonymous No.56099146]

>>56099106
US gets fugged, Europe gets fucked hard, China gets nearly heemed.
>>56099069
Collapse seems a strong word, but yes the recession and correction has begun. As for why people aren't chimping it's bread and circuses and them not being so poor yet that life is completely impossible en masse to the standard of living they are used to, that will change soon and it'll be when people get actually pissed. But again, bread and circuses will keep most of them ignorant. If you want a real schizo hot take I think the dumb money movie is going to be big so people know who to blame just like the big short was big in the wake of '08. If we weren't going to collapse in 2008 I don't see it happening now with a lot more time to do a lot more things to prevent it. It's a very similar situation, everyone that actually knows finance knows omar comin' but errybody else in da hood ain't know what the whistle meant or thought niggas was bugging.

[Anonymous No.56099149]

Look at this fucking shit. It's a fucking massacre. Why do I even use a fund. The only winner is Buffet. 26.6%????
I should have just dumped all this into Berkshire and gave these Froggie fucks the finger.

>>56099119
Yes. Pic related.

>>56099132
Belgium, but my portfolio is in Crédit Agricole's investment fund.

[Anonymous No.56099169]

>>56099121
I took your ten pounds and invested them into the Varanaisi stock market. Ten pounds per pound of shit. I'm up 70 pence by now.

[Anonymous No.56099177]

>>56099106
Europe is dead (as in the nations and people are dead.) Their social institutions, ideas, and infrastructure will die with them (look at how India failed to build on what the British left after the British people abandoned them. That's the best case scenario for Europe.)
On top of that they're suffering from logistic and financial problems in the short term.
It's not clear to me why you decided to invest there in the first place.

[Anonymous No.56099199]

>>56099177
I inherited this portfolio. I would have looked to US funds but by the time I got ownership we were down 23% and it wouldn't have made any sense to sell.
Once I break even I'm going somewhere else. Berkshire probably. Who the fuck else.

[Anonymous No.56099210]

As of today my 401k and Roth IRA are officially maxed for the year. Easy peasy.

[Anonymous No.56099220]

>>56099210
i like that paparazzi shot where she's blowing her bf on a hotel balcony
what a dirty girl

[Anonymous No.56099232]

>>56099199
If I were you I'd have a look at the demographic profiles and expected political trajectories of the countries containing your investments and start selling off any in countries that might struggle within ten years. All of Europe is going to go into a "doom loop" but some countries might start this cycle.
If you want "most doomer outlook" then that might be me and I'll tell you that some of those may never break even.

[Anonymous No.56099236]

Plunge protection team worked overtime today on the shit ass CPI print

[Anonymous No.56099240]

brown girls owe us all sex.

[Anonymous No.56099249]

>>56099210
My employer gives us bianual "stock bonuses" that I always sell to fund mine since each one is larger than the yearly contribution limit.

[Anonymous No.56099256]

>>56099240
yes i've seen some fantastic ones on /gif/ today and a debt is indeed outstanding

[Anonymous No.56099279]

Hey biscuits was funny

[Anonymous No.56099285]

>>56099199
>Once I break even

[Anonymous No.56099298]

>>56098974
>correction
>crash

They are one and the same. The terminology used to associate price falling is exactly why I only deal in red and green, any green is good, any red is bad. Sure absolutes suck, but you never lose more than you gain with this mentality.

[Anonymous No.56099314]

I talked to Elon. He's gonna be posting Amber Heard revenge porn for next earnings date. Make it exclusive Twitter content.

[Anonymous No.56099319]

Should I get my MBA next year, /smg/? I got accepted into a cheap accelerated MBA program for Fall 2024. Working right now in as a data analyst, working with feature engineering for models.

But I want to get into a more business dev related role ASAP so I can relax and not be staring at python script all day long. MBA worth it if Im in data science and it's a local, but still decently ranked cheap school?
Also getting an MBA would help me move to a public equities firm eventually (this is how my post is /smg/ related, i wanna leverage my MBA for a future in working with stoggs)

[Anonymous No.56099326]

Can NVAX pull a CVNA in a few months?

[Anonymous No.56099338]

Nt

[Anonymous No.56099353]

>>56099326
NVAX is literally an implied bankruptcy play. So yes, to answer your q, absolutely fucking yes CVNA was similarly a bankruptcy / distressed asset play

[Anonymous No.56099354]

>>56098992
Thx, anon.

[Anonymous No.56099356]

ARM $200 CALLS

[Anonymous No.56099431]

Give me 1 reason not to FOMO into EPM tomorrow

[Anonymous No.56099450]

>>56099353
Is CVNA going bankrupt? Redditors implying it’s management is suspect and the company is a scam

[Anonymous No.56099455]

A generational top happened and you bought more

[Anonymous No.56099464]

Routers are getting routed

[Anonymous No.56099475]

>>56099455
My boomer real estate bull friend's tech investment thesis is that the lack of competent workers will push businesses to automate more and that will continue to pump tech stocks.
It's an interesting idea although I think tech is probably overvalued right now. I do think we might see a higher peak in a few years.
He thinks all the stocks will go to zero though so he only buys houses.

[Anonymous No.56099477]

Stock market more like poop market.

[Anonymous No.56099499]

>>56099455
2007 will never happen again. Formerly free (to fail) markets are now state-controlled. Only up from here, forever pricing out millennials and zoomers from this easy avenue to retirement. Until 5-10 years later when we realize we've missed the ship (again), buy in, only then will it crash.

[Anonymous No.56099503]

>>56099475
Tech stocks don’t automate. Mcdeezies and wallyworld automate

[Anonymous No.56099510]

Nasdaq more like Poopsdaq.

[Anonymous No.56099515]

>>56099499
As the oracle loads up on bonds

[Anonymous No.56099517]

New York Stock Exchange more like Poopew Poopork Pooptock Poopxchange.

[Anonymous No.56099538]

Who’s your copper and what does he do

[Anonymous No.56099541]

Business & Finance more like Poopness and Poopnance.

[Anonymous No.56099553]

>>56099464
That's a shame, it was a breddy decent meme, definitely enjoyable. My favorite, and forgive the foggy memory butchering job here, was the time the one Anon was going on about some unspecified thing they were invoosting in that was sure to sell like hotcakes or whatever, and you replied with something to the effect of "I too am invoosted in routers"! That, to me, was peak router meme. Hopefully it will make a dramatic comback like some sort of wrestling match where shit is looking grim until right near the apparent end.

[Anonymous No.56099554]

Don’t worry. They’ll be back. Eventually

[Anonymous No.56099560]

>>56099210
Good for you Anon. I usually panic contribute in Dec/Jan, and somehow still max mine out. But this year has been rough, I had 10K worth of plastic surgery done (not going full bog, just acne scar revision) so might not make my contributions this year! Getting the hair transplant next year too maybe, but hoping to stop there. If anything I've learned is bogging yourself is a surefire way to make it, though. So maybe it is equal to a "contribution".

[Anonymous No.56099572]

>Shorting Unity

[Anonymous No.56099586]

If there was only one stock or ETF that you invest in for the rest of your life, what would it be?

[Anonymous No.56099603]

>>56099586
>ETF
Probably SCHD or any other Schwab-related one.

[Anonymous No.56099609]

Uranium Kings..... I am up 100%

[Anonymous No.56099612]

Another day. In a good mood. See on the 15th (friday) I'm dropping a $2,000 bomb payment on my debt load. Now I could've just made the minimum and let it roll cause I'm still in the zero interest period but what fun would that be? Aside; I've got planned a $3,000 bomb payment come February 2024 (Tax refund + extra) in addition to the regular payments between now and then. (Zero interest period don't expire till 2/2024 for purchases and 8/2024 on balance transfers)

[Anonymous No.56099614]

>>56099319
It depends on what you want to achieve with it. If your goal is to buy and hold companies via shares in common stock then an MBA with heavy accounting courses and good understanding of business could be a great edge to have. But if your goal is to actually start a business yourself, I would argue that this skill cannot be taught, and many startup founders have lamented that MBA academics "destroy companies" that they've built, turning them into faceless globohomos. I'm sure you'll learn some good things, but you might also have to unlearn what they teach you too.

I'd go for it if you had the time + luxury, just for being around the college women. I might go back to school when I hit LeanFire

[Anonymous No.56099615]

>>56099586
BOIL

[Anonymous No.56099620]

Anyone else bullish on unity? I personally started to believe the only way to real wealth is to create a SAAS moat and drain peoples wallets with it. Real powerful people in finance always preach owning nothing and subscriber economy is as own nothing as it gets. No one questions nestle or coca cola stock and thats old school subscriber company when you think about it. I'd faster buy unity stock then a FAGMAN tbqh for gambling.

[Anonymous No.56099626]

>>56099499
Such a naive post...

[Anonymous No.56099629]

>>56099586
brk-b. Duh.

[Anonymous No.56099636]

>>56099615
It’s not just tech trannies that will get btfo. It’s ogre ogre

[Anonymous No.56099642]

>>56099614
My goal is to just get a better, more relaxing position in a company that affords me a less burnout-prone lifestyle in a corporate setting.

[Anonymous No.56099651]

All the liquidity

[Anonymous No.56099657]

>>56099636
Forgot pic

[Anonymous No.56099661]

Hedge fund basis trading screwing the bond market adding to liquidity problems
https://archive.is/zWR8v

[Anonymous No.56099668]

>>56099657
doesn't matter we can't open the pic anyways.

[Anonymous No.56099675]

>>56099636
>>56099657
Overall NATGAS levels matter not, it's constantly volatile enough to swing on a semi regular basis.

[Anonymous No.56099703]

>>56099675
He was asking buy and hold for life. Swing away. There’s an insane amount of nat out there tho and it’s headed lower for longer

[Anonymous No.56099720]

>>56098922
yjk

[Anonymous No.56099729]

Anyone longing Moderna and Pfizer here?

[Anonymous No.56099737]

>>56099729
>people will fall for it once again
that's the sad part

[Anonymous No.56099744]

If I put $100 into a savings deposit @ 4% p.a. for 6 months, no interest-on-interest: how much do I get in interest at the end? Is it $102?

>yes I'm retarded and the rest of this board is just crypto so I'm asking here plz no bully

[Anonymous No.56099748]

>Company shares are sub $1
>NYSE: "That's a no-no"
>Company does 200:1 reverse split
>Shares are now $9
How fast will they reach sub $1 again?

[Anonymous No.56099751]

>>56099729
She looks like an IRL version of the wicked stepmother from the original Disney Cinderella.

[Anonymous No.56099768]

>>56099744
You get $2 (two dollars), unironically...
And only at the time of their choosing, ie at the day they choose to deposit it into your account.

[Anonymous No.56099771]

>>56099703
>and hold
He didn't specify that, he asked if you could only invest in one for the rest of your life, and that would be my invoostment instrument of choice without a doubt. Nat's going to average higher next year.

[Anonymous No.56099800]

People don't think ofMSFT as a high yielding investment.
Its current yield is 0.82%.
But-
It's 10 year yield on cost?
8.32%.
That's the power of dividend growth investing

[Anonymous No.56099808]

>>56099768
If you don't have autorenew, two terms of 6 months would be $100 -> $102, then $102 -> $104.04. Which is more than 1 year of 4% which would be $104.00.

But then they jew you on the payout date or something?

[Anonymous No.56099810]

>>56099729
Damn, maybe my NVAX play will pay off. I need more fear mongering like this to assist my portfolio

[Anonymous No.56099817]

>>56099642
>My goal is to just get a better, more relaxing position in a company that affords me a less burnout-prone lifestyle in a corporate setting.

I wouldn't go for an MBA then. The days of getting rewarded for an education like that are over. The formula for advancement has changed. It really all boils down to balls. Yes, balls. How much can you grab the company's balls and twist them until they scream. Sounds ghey, but that's the best way to describe how I've gotten raises in the past.

Think about your value to the company. What you've done for them, how ingrained you are, and how much a headache it would be for them if you left. This is literally the only thing THEY are thinking about when you ask for that 10% raise. They are neither thinking about how they "should" raise you for your loyalty. Nor are they thinking about how they "should" raise you as a reward for doing hard work and spending money at a university. They only think about your current value.

If you want to leave programming and work higher up, my formula for that is - automat fucking everything. Then take on more advanced / managerial problems and work, without asking for permission. You see something that needs to be set up in Jira? Take on more work. It now becomes your thing. After about 1 year, it will become apparent in your promotion discussion that you have taken on more managerial work and there's the proof you need to ask for your raise or job title change. Teach the juniors how to do your programming tasks. Most people are too insecure to do this. Say you programmed some thing advanced. Grab a junior and say "hey bro come over here injsut wanna show you something cool I did for a sec". At first glance you're just a senior helping out his junior right? Wrong. What you're really teaching them how to do YOUR job, so that YOU can be freed to take on more advanced or managerial work (they just don't know this yet). Thereby freeing you from programming one day.

[Anonymous No.56099818]

>>56099810
are you the retard who all in'd

[Anonymous No.56099819]

>>56099808
I'm sorry if I come across as some special flavor of retarded, I've only ever done stonks.

[Anonymous No.56099822]

>>56099729
Even the most normie npc people I know all cringe at the idea of Pandemic 2.0 over covid. They've all had it and there's no way to deny that it's just a cold for most, if not all, people. My brother who has asthma just had it and his doctor just shrugged and told him to take Mucinex for a few days.

[Anonymous No.56099836]

>>56099822
>Even the most normie npc people I know all cringe at the idea of Pandemic 2.0 over covid
Idk im seeing quite a few masks again. That in of itself isnt that big a deal. We will see how many all line up for the vax.

[Anonymous No.56099857]

>>56099808
This entirely depends on the structure of the product you are investing in, or the account you are depositing to.
These questions should be answered by the the specifications sheet of the account or product you're interested in.
>How long your money is locked up, or not at all.
>How frequently interest is going to be paid.
>Is it compounding?
>Is the interest being paid into a different account?
>etc.
You need to check that for yourself, unfortunately.

[Anonymous No.56099859]

>>56099836
Masks are a nothingburger. Americans have been behind the curve on masking while sick for decades, plenty of people around the world are accustomed to it. I just seriously doubt that anyone is going to try locking things down like 2020 again.

[Anonymous No.56099871]

>>56099818
Yes

[Anonymous No.56099880]

clftranny...won...

[Anonymous No.56099894]

>>56099859
>I just seriously doubt that anyone is going to try locking things down
unironically heard that the first time, too.
What should stop them if they want to go for round two?
Everybody vowed their noncompliance to the first round a few years back, also. In the end, nearly everybody went along with it irl.

[Anonymous No.56099898]

>>56099859
the strongest predictor of something happening is it happening before

[Anonymous No.56099904]

I’m losing so much money on the chop this month. Everything is so obviously controlled by algos, there’s no events or sentiment analysis that will deviate the trends to profit off gap fills. Not even the automotive union strike will stop the fucking chop. I will never make a profit again…

[Anonymous No.56099910]

>>56099857
Alright thank you for your time. Love from Kazakhstan

[Anonymous No.56099927]

>>56099904
You are the same person

[Anonymous No.56099935]

>>56098863
Just bought a bunch of ARM. Did I do bad? From what reddit says it looks like I did bad cause SoftBank bad.

[Anonymous No.56099943]

why isnt oil pumping faster
why isnt eu going down already
I need to make some fucking money dammit

[Anonymous No.56099964]

>>56099935
No you didn't. No, you didn't.

Yes, you would be bad to buy ARM anywhere above the bottom of the initial range of their IPO price.

[Anonymous No.56099983]

>>56099935
Every new ipo takes off and then eventually falls way way below the opening price

[Anonymous No.56100007]

>>56099935
Yes you fucked up. Their stock will do the same as Coinbase. Look at their shares outstanding/float. If u spent any relevant time in crypto you would know not to touch this ipo.

[Anonymous No.56100008]

>>56099983
That's what I was thinking, sell in a day or two and hopefully have some stonks to put elsewhere. With my luck China invades Taiwan overnight and arm is no longer allowed to sell to China.

[Anonymous No.56100020]

life savings all in ARM IPO tomorrow. Animal spirits are still here. consumer is strong. GME

[Anonymous No.56100032]

>>56099904
Imagine having a portfolio that is wildly effected by short term price action. Couldn’t be me

[Anonymous No.56100039]

>>56099904
How? Options?

>>56099943
I'm impressed how much OIL is pumping DESPITE all the China FUD. Can you imagine where it would be without that? Where it would be if there was the chance of rate cuts from US and EU? This shit would explode to +100 again.

[Anonymous No.56100050]

>>56099904
Become the algo, goy.

[Anonymous No.56100057]

>>56098922
y
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[Anonymous No.56100061]

>>56100039
Imagine thinking that China matters ever lol

[Anonymous No.56100073]

>>56100061
>

[Anonymous No.56100089]

>>56100073
Thanks

[Anonymous No.56100094]

>>56099817
>You see something that needs to be set up in Jira? Take on more work. It now becomes your thing.
This explains why we're up to our eyes in worthless process.
Fuck corporations you can't actually *do things* there.

[Anonymous No.56100107]

Any EU shorters, watch out, this retard could moon with EU opening to catch up with US. Short cautiously

[Anonymous No.56100121]

>>56100107
fuck you market FUDder

[Anonymous No.56100128]

Also:
Nobody knows how a hike of the ECB will be interpreted
>Hike = economy strong = stocks pump (like all last hikes)
>No hike = drop yesterday was in anticipation of hike = repump
>No hike = weak economy = drop yesterday was in anticipation = priced in = nothing happens

Coinflipday.

[Anonymous No.56100147]

>>56100128
europe has a bank? thats adorable.

[Anonymous No.56100148]

>>56100128
>le prices only go up thesis

[Anonymous No.56100151]

HIGHER INFLATION SO BULLISH, GOLDMAN SACHS SAYS 0 PERCENT CHANCE OF RATE HIKE, EVERYONE AGREES HAHAHAHA WHAT THE FUCK IS HAPPENING

[Anonymous No.56100160]

>>56100151
How can I profit off of this?

[Anonymous No.56100167]

>>56100148
I'm a bear, but this market is retarded. I'm just not delusional.

[Anonymous No.56100169]

short the dollar

[Anonymous No.56100172]

>>56100151
Inflation very, very clearly peaked last year and you're unironically retarded if you can't zoom out enough to acknowledge that

[Anonymous No.56100187]

>>56100172
Prime still at 8.5 with more rate hikes expected. Soft landing more like dry insert

[Anonymous No.56100195]

>>56100172
If inflation peaked then why is it going up genius

[Anonymous No.56100208]

You guys maxed out your cash app glitch to fill your robinhood 0dte option trading account right?

https://www.dailydot.com/news/cash-app-glitch-amazon-popeyes-doordash/

[Anonymous No.56100217]

>>56099149
yeah the problem is youre using some retarded active investors mutual fund that likely charges you a trailer fee, just switch to a passive index ETF

[Anonymous No.56100223]

>It had been in this vicinity over the preceding six years. Inflation began ratcheting upward in the mid-1960s and reached more than 14 percent in 1980. It eventually declined to average only 3.5 percent in the latter half of the 1980s.
did boomers cry as much much or is this millennials and zoomers being whiney bitch faggot bitches again?

[Anonymous No.56100227]

>>56100172
We know it peaked. But it is increasing again. What's so hard to understand? Or is Oil not risin and making another peak? Do you understand Mountains? There literally are graphs with the design called "mountains"

[Anonymous No.56100236]

>>56100208
>robinghood
If you have a RH account you're not going to make it.

[Anonymous No.56100255]

>>56100160
It depends on what the Fed does. Were definitely edging back into the territory of an expansionary and growth-based business cycle- Economic surveys are up, GDP forecast is up, Commodities are up so far, credit spreads are down and inflation has edged higher MoM. In a normal environment this would be Bullish for the markets, and if there is a rate pause, as is currently being predicted, I would still lean Bullish- but in this current environment of trying to tame inflation with Monetary policy, if the Fed is watching this same data and doesn't like what they see in terms of the impact this might have on inflation, they might come out hawkish with another rate hike and pour water on this whole thing. Otherwise, with a rate pause and expansionary business cycle in the works for this Quarter, I would lean towards being the Long the usual Growth/Cyclical stocks for the near term.

[Anonymous No.56100268]

>>56100208
Amazing
I do buy the theory that the “glitch” is intentional so dumb poors up those consumption numbers and have their future income withheld. Of course, you can only pay for good and services which cashapp has a direct deal with, no way that nod and wink deal isn’t being manipulated

[Anonymous No.56100271]

>>56100172
Inflation may have peaked last year, but inflation has clearly troughed and bottomed out this year and is starting to inch back up again.

[Anonymous No.56100284]

>>56100255
>commodities going up is bullish
We’re peaaaaaaaking

[Anonymous No.56100291]

>>56100039
Oil rising in this case is mostly a supply side issue (OPEC cuts/SPR depleted)- and less so a demand based rise.

[Anonymous No.56100295]

I hope you guys realize that money printing exceeds inflation. This is only possible because population growth sucks up the extra dollars.
Think about it - what happens when populations stop growing?

[Anonymous No.56100303]

>>56100291
Yeah, so how is it going to drop? How will it not go up should demand increase?

[Anonymous No.56100306]

>>56100295
>Money printing and inflation being two separate things
Wtf is going on

[Anonymous No.56100310]

>>56100284
>commodities going up is bullish
If a rise in Commodities is demand based, then yes, it is Bullish as it signals an expansionary/growing Business Cycle. Oil rising right now not so much, due to obvious OPEC supply cuts, but Copper, Steel, Lumber etc potentially yes.

[Anonymous No.56100319]

>>56100295
No clue what you're trying to say but I can guarantee you are wrong because you sound certain about something that is entirely impossible to be certain about

[Anonymous No.56100322]

>i never knew what inflation was nor did i notice its roughly 2% affect on prices, but now i do know i just can't process price signals at 3.8%, it's literally oppression, this is like weimar germany and zimbabwe x100 god the boomers never knew this suffering

[Anonymous No.56100324]

>>56100303
>Yeah, so how is it going to drop?
Never said it would drop, just saying as of the moment it has nothing to do with the demand side of the economy, or demand from China. It could certainly go much higher if demand suddenly rises with supply continuing to dwindle.

[Anonymous No.56100326]

>>56100310
If copper goes up yea it’s bullish. But is copper going up you fucking retard? No grains and oils going up. They are supply cutting because usa can produce a metric fuck ton of all of these things. Core metrics for cpi going up is not fucking bullish. And not only that but don’t forget they changed cpi to measure back only 1 year. Not three years like the used to. Inflation would still be god awful had they kept the metric. Stfu you absolute nonce

[Anonymous No.56100331]

>>56099132
>shithole countries like germany
I dont think you know what a shithole country is, nigger

[Anonymous No.56100339]

>>56098863
any unironic boomer investors in /biz/? i'm lazy and don't like to think, want to float a taxable portfolio and am wondering whether bogleheads type investing in vanguard is a good strategy

[Anonymous No.56100343]

>>56099177
>>56099232
What the fuck has europe to do with India when the british left, you retarded nigger?

[Anonymous No.56100351]

>>56100326
Holy shit let’s not forget the housing bubble. And unemployment at historical lows. The pendulum has swung too fucking far. They know it. They bought 5% bonds.

[Anonymous No.56100362]

>>56100339
>>56100268
>All that nigspeak in the article
>Uhh what do you mean I have to pay for something
Amazing is the right word. Regardless of what the funny number on the screen says, you have to pay for it. There are no free rides. Are these people serious? Damn

[Anonymous No.56100365]

>>56100195
So you seriously look at that and just ignore the first 90% of the image huh?

[Anonymous No.56100372]

>>56100339
it is if you're willing to let your money sit a decade or two. you still have to think regardless because if SHTF (think great depression) then it would be a humongous waste of time if you let your money sit in an index fund.

[Anonymous No.56100374]

>>56100339
put your whole account into arm ipo tomorrow and sell it next week for double. its a shortcut

[Anonymous No.56100376]

>>56100326
>>56100351
>supply cutting
Of what?
Also any reason why CANE/sugar went up since the start of the year? I assume poor harvests / high demand / high input price / logistics etc. In other words, food people are going to probably cut back on the amount of sugar they put in shit

>mfw I realized that sugar free isn't for health or diabeetus consumers, it's so they can avoid paying the price for sugar when they can just use cheap artificial stuff

[Anonymous No.56100381]

>>56100326
>But is copper going up you fucking retard?
Up YoY from its trough in July 2022, and up from its low this year in May 2023. Its clearly troughed and has firmly bottomed and is not going any lower, I expect Copper to increase sharply in price over the coming weeks. There are other key metrics and indicators that point to an expansionary Business Cycle for the rest of the year that will pump the price of the Copper soon. Im not just looking at Commodity prices alone.

[Anonymous No.56100386]

>>56099199
Imagine beleiving the bullshit these niggers here say. European stocks are performing well

[Anonymous No.56100411]

>>56100236
I waited round 15 years for these. I wasn't disappointed. She's taken care of herself.

[Anonymous No.56100412]

>>56100381
Dump into opex. Rally to December. Then it’s ogre. And no copper isn’t. You think copper going to 10$ or 2.50$? Just be real. 10$ ain’t fucking happening. So simple as we test the bottom.

[Anonymous No.56100421]

>>56100365
So when it’s up to 5 percent next month then clearly we’re on the path to economic recovery

[Anonymous No.56100430]

Is unity a safe short?
Surely investors wouldn't think this is acceptable.

[Anonymous No.56100437]

>>56100430
it already dumped a bit. probably a coin toss at this point

[Anonymous No.56100447]

Why are you guys drawing lines on charts?

[Anonymous No.56100456]

OPEC cutting supplies. Russia doing everything it can to sabotage all grain in ukrabreadbasketofeuropeine. And america can produce oil and natural gas like nobodies business at these prices. They are being forced to cut. And the on my reason Chiba going along is because they don’t wanna pay out the ass for basedbeans. Commodities going up can be good when it’s the righttttt commodities. But look at 2008 what happened? Oil was high. Grains were high. It’s really fucking simple

[Anonymous No.56100463]

>>56100447
Avert your eyes

[Anonymous No.56100476]

>>56100412
Purchasing Managers expectations are up, Industrial Productions MoM are up. Copper is not going to fucking fall. The only thing that could change this outlook is if the Fed comes more Hawkish than expected and raises interest rates instead of the market forecasted pause. Look at more than just fucking Technical Analysis.

[Anonymous No.56100481]

>>56100447
sometimes it works out

[Anonymous No.56100485]

>>56099047
>>56099070
i bought 2 shares
am i fucked?

[Anonymous No.56100494]

>>56100476
The purchasing managers say things look good. Lollllllll

[Anonymous No.56100512]

>>56100303
>>56100324
Picrelated is a post of mine from a little longer than a year ago.
I still believe Oil is heading to the $400 to $600 range by the end of this decade.

[Anonymous No.56100517]

>>56100195
>what is a peak

[Anonymous No.56100518]

>>56100494
And Jeromey Rome Rome said steady thru end of 2023. Not once has anyone talked about cutting rates. They will continue to tighten until a black swan hits. And TA is never wrong. Your analysis of it might be wrong

[Anonymous No.56100521]

>>56100447
It's a form of voodoo. They are trying to psychically manipulate the underlying to behave according to whatever they are mentally superimposing onto the charts. They are going to hell for it too unless they repent and ask the LORD GOD Almighty to save them.

[Anonymous No.56100526]

>>56100456
>But look at 2008 what happened? Oil was high. Grains were high.

Trying to call the absolute tops and bottoms of the entire market is a Fool's Errand. The market can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent. Assuming a rate hike pause, we'll have the typical Seasonality September mechanical pullback, which were already in the process of going through, and then rally once again into the Holiday Season once the pullback finds it Support.

[Anonymous No.56100527]

>>56100437
>>56100430
I wanted to do a bear call spread for Nov, but by the time the market opened, it priced it in.
Today's price is basically the news reflected in the price and existing trends continue. Honestly, except for the gap, it's probably still neutral to bullish.

[Anonymous No.56100579]

>>56100526
Yea man it’s about opex and clearing out premiums half the time. I said fall into October then rally to December. Then dump for 2024. And just behind the scenes. Hedge funds are trying to buy up anything but stocks atm. Farmland is going thru the roof and they are throwing out outlandish offers. Outlandish offers for big chunks of ground. They want OUT. Imagine being greedy over another six months of gains when the past ten has the potential to be wiped out in the blink of an eye. One missile towards Taiwan. Russia blows up a nuclear plant. Covid boogaloo part 2. Housing bubble. Repos going crazy in bond market apparently. Like just line go up huh?

[Anonymous No.56100590]

>>56100518
>ta is wrong
yes, see my above image. we will reach 5000 2024

[Anonymous No.56100603]

>>56100494
Non-Manufacturing Services PMI is literally signaling growth and Bullishness, and Manufacturing PMI rose straight up over the course of the previous two months from its Post-COVID bottom of a measly 45 back in June 2023, barely a blip on the radar, yawn, wake me up when that shit hits 40 and below. And Consumer Sentiment over the last two months has been straight exponential from its trough in June 2023 as well.

[Anonymous No.56100607]

>>56100518
TA on long charts looks bullish as fuck, I agree with you

[Anonymous No.56100623]

>>56100481
>>56100590
2030. You’ll be back at 4500. Gl hf

[Anonymous No.56100637]

>>56100623
is that you mr maverick, BEARS NEVER WIN

[Anonymous No.56100640]

>>56100579
On a long enough time line, Im extremely Bearish about this whole thing as well. That has nothing to do with making money in the markets for the near term however based on the current Business Cycle/Quarter. This can is going to be kicked down the road as long as possible, and yes, if the market rallies into December I will continue to be all-in with it, until the Business Cycles prove otherwise.

[Anonymous No.56100641]

>>56100623
Build a business and write the taxes off. The free gibs are ogre

[Anonymous No.56100647]

I feel like people should be able to sue these news outlets. It's journalistic malpractice.

[Anonymous No.56100657]

>>56100527
No point in being bearish about it right now. I suspect a lawsuit could kick in with the retroactive attempt. In the meantime I'll start pirating and uninstalling unity games repeatedly.

[Anonymous No.56100668]

>>56100647
Kill journos
Behead journos
Roundhouse kick a journo into the concrete
Slam dunk a journo into the trashcan
Crucify filthy journos
Defecate in a journos food

[Anonymous No.56100669]

>>56100640
Bro did you miss the times central banks just came up with new rules and redefined everything over the last century?? It's going to keep happening that way. The average house is going to cost $1,000,000 in fifty years and no one will care

[Anonymous No.56100682]

>>56099894
QEi & CARES act were not in response to lockdowns, lockdowns were in response to QEi & CARES act.

[Anonymous No.56100687]

>>56100669
>Bro did you miss the times central banks just came up with new rules and redefined everything over the last century?? It's going to keep happening that way.

See here...
>This can is going to be kicked down the road as long as possible

[Anonymous No.56100697]

>>56100687
And what if "as long as possible" is 100+ years? I just don't know when bears will admit they're either WAY too early or hilariously wrong

[Anonymous No.56100700]

>>56100668
I mean, no, but we have to agree that this shit is basically yellow journalism and needs to stop.
>FED WILL LOOK PAST INFLATION UPTICK
>(economists say)
>(not the Fed)
>(but here's a photos of J. Powell so that you associate the statement with the Fed itself)
>(the economists don't actually know what the Fed is going to decide)
>(and we don't care that our shoving this borderline misinformation in your face constantly has probably led to millions if not billions in retail losses)

[Anonymous No.56100712]

>>56099894
Chill the fuck out bro, all the media and corporations are doing with this latest "surge" is trying to fleece scared old people for more Booster-buxx coinciding with the release of the new Booster this month.

[Anonymous No.56100716]

>>56100700
What if it's just disingenuous to the other side you fucking fags? It's an "uptick" if you cannot fathom charts that look back longer than a couple months. Otherwise the decline in inflation is utterly obvious.

[Anonymous No.56100722]

>>56100319
>I can guarantee you are wrong
>because you sound certain
ironic

[Anonymous No.56100723]

>>56100697
I follow the latest reports on the current Business Cycle on a Quarter to Quarter basis. I dont make predictions beyond that.

[Anonymous No.56100725]

>Drinking shit talking with two girls over voice
>Good vibes and banter
>I'm max fucking tipsy, and just in the perfect harassment mood
>They start talking about really important stuff that shouldn't get teased about
>But they don't give me a warning
>I send one off in tears
>a week later they're still fucking mad at me
in 15 seconds I managed to ruin a threesome opportunity with girls. Granted I am owed sex regardless so fuck them hoes for being mad at me for what I said while drunk not accepting that it was also their fault for not getting me calmed down first. AI gfs when?

[Anonymous No.56100727]

Don’t worry. It’ll just be your prime years of life where it goes sideways. There’s no free rides and you’ll work until they say you can retire. 20 years to double and that’s IF you timed the bottom perfectly. Line only go up. And sideways.

[Anonymous No.56100733]

>>56100700
>jpow
>doing shit
some of the most limp dick hikes in history. He won't do shit over a baby uptick.

[Anonymous No.56100735]

>>56100725
KYS yourself

[Anonymous No.56100738]

>>56100727
Fuck you nigger, pay me
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O96K_E7uhJ4

[Anonymous No.56100746]

>>56100700
Yeah, but I didn't mean it ironically. And it's not just this article or economic journos.
All journos are subhuman.
>Joe Normal doesn't care
>Joe Normal is blind and deaf
Maybe Joe Normal is also a retard, but journos are telling half the truth at best, openly lying sometimes, and constantly being deceitful. A lot of what's wrong with the world I attribute to journos.

[Anonymous No.56100764]

>>56099609
DON'T YOU KNOW PUMP IT UP

[Anonymous No.56100786]

>>56100764

[Anonymous No.56100789]

>>56100725
its very possible that youre retarded

[Anonymous No.56100796]

>>56100579
>Like just line go up huh?
kind of

[Anonymous No.56100798]

>>56100786
>>56100764
YOU'VE GOT TO PUMP IT UP

[Anonymous No.56100807]

>>56100786
Let's be honest, you're just mad there hasn't been a pullback yet so you can add.

[Anonymous No.56100811]

>>56100786
pretty reddit-tier gif, not gonna lie.

[Anonymous No.56100813]

>futures
SOMEONE WILL SAY
WHAT IS LOST CAN NEVER BE SAVED
DESPITE ALL MY RAGE
I AM STILL JUST A RAT IN A CAGE

https://youtu.be/8-r-V0uK4u0

[Anonymous No.56100834]

>>56100789
Somehow fucking this up? Yep. I dug my heel into the ground and refused to take shit any longer.

[Anonymous No.56100838]

>>56100447
Markets tend to trend, goy.

[Anonymous No.56100841]

>>56100798
>>56100807
>>56100811
You're all the same person.

[Anonymous No.56100842]

>>56100796
Yea but it can also go sideways. Here’s the Dow since I already did spy. Over twenty years to double. I bet inflation won’t be bad tho. It’ll be fine. Don’t you see what they just did with the boomers? They rallied em up in 2001 dropped their averages and rallied them finally the big show here at the end for them to retire on. Rapid growth stage is over. Holy fuck. You think nvidia going to 1000$ next year? It fucking topppppped

[Anonymous No.56100852]

>>56100834
Fuck the haters my man, you are 100% right, you are owed sex on-command whenever you want it. So am I. All the losers and dorks on this board from r/WSB can't possibly fathom having such a Chad mindset, its completely out of their realm to even grasp such a concept.

[Anonymous No.56100853]

Ughhhhhhhhhh guys. Yo guys. Line go up guys.

[Anonymous No.56100855]

>>56100842
>NVDA topped
Man I really can't imagine going through life this dumb

[Anonymous No.56100859]

>>56100841
yes

[Anonymous No.56100860]

>>56100716
>It's an "uptick" if you cannot fathom charts that look back longer than a couple months. Otherwise the decline in inflation is utterly obvious.

[Anonymous No.56100861]

>>56100834
a real man would have used the womens vulnerability to his advantage. instead youre planting your dick in the ground and complaining

[Anonymous No.56100864]

>>56100813
>futures (fr fr no cap)
I'M A RICH WHITE HONKEY
BUT I KNOW HOW TO PLAY THE BLUES

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWNk-4jJb7I

[Anonymous No.56100865]

>>56100834
but what was the important shit they were talking about

[Anonymous No.56100866]

>>56100657
Absolute clownshow that this shitpost became real though

[Anonymous No.56100872]

>>56100866
Right now they're trying to backtrack by saying it's only per device. Retards.

[Anonymous No.56100873]

>>56100866
Hmm. Sounds bullish.

[Anonymous No.56100875]

>>56099729
I'm so glad I left NY. Feels less crazy. Now I'm in a politics free state with 0 bumper stickers and 0 lawn signs because everyone knows everyone's neighbor believes the same as them (red pilled or apathy pilled).

I've seen more Trump propaganda in rural blue state NY than I ever saw in the red state where I live now. Leaving was the best thing I ever did for my mental health, and my finances. Only small town Silent Hill for me, from now on. Town of 1000 people is great.

[Anonymous No.56100903]

>Stacking gold when you make minimum wage

[Anonymous No.56100919]

>>56100716
A decline in inflation doesn't make things as they were. Only deflation can do that.

[Anonymous No.56100930]

>>56100746
>Yeah, but I didn't mean it ironically.
I know. I was distancing myself from your violent rhetoric (not that I don't think journalists and media execs deserve some sort of comeuppance).

[Anonymous No.56100934]

Uranium on track to be best performing asset this year. Buy the pullback.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukXow5B0ZcI

[Anonymous No.56100953]

>>56099220
Fake
>>56099256
That place is fucked. 25 filters doesn't even get 100% of all the degeneracy

[Anonymous No.56100961]

>>56100875
>w. Leaving was the best thing I ever did for my mental health, and my finance
Im glad for you anon.

[Anonymous No.56100967]

>>56100875
I don't see how anyone does it. Living in such cramped conditions. I like my space. I'd go crazy if I could hear my neighbors through the wall or put my hand out the window and touch the neighbor's house..

[Anonymous No.56100972]

>>56100411
>Not showing anything
Dropped

[Anonymous No.56100973]

Man, how much I'd like to short EU now, but I know today will get retarded (yes in EU it's thursday already).

[Anonymous No.56100977]

>>56100647
Just once I hope Jerome swings his dick around and slaps the interest rate cock on the market for these "economists all agree that the Fed is done" articles.

[Anonymous No.56100983]

Is return stacking worth doing?

[Anonymous No.56100984]

>>56100977
He won't. Next hike Oct/Nov.

[Anonymous No.56101002]

>>56100722
no

[Anonymous No.56101011]

>>56100972
Kek, I mean yeah I'd have liked a full on playboy type shoot Who wouldn't? But considering she shows the goods at all and in legit photos no less is still good. How many times have you wished to see her bare ass before the pics came out but couldn't cause they didn't exist or they "claimed" to exist but the quality was terrible.

[Anonymous No.56101027]

Sell all your gold. And I don't mean this because of Idris.

[Anonymous No.56101050]

Interest rate more like pooptrest rate.

[Anonymous No.56101064]

>>56101027
Never selling my sovereign collection chud. This is smg, here we only bet against America.

[Anonymous No.56101066]

Make a quick KR run, spent $69, nice

[Anonymous No.56101078]

Elon made a new friend!

[Anonymous No.56101079]

>>56101002
It is quite ironic. I'm sorry you fail to see that.

Back to my original point, since I never fully explained that. Just look at the price of gold, adjusted for inflation. It's not a perfect comparison because as much as gold is seen as a scarce resource to speculate on, there is still plenty being mined and added to the global stash each year. There are also commodity uses such as gold plated electronic connectors, paint brushes, etc..

Gold goes through significant boom and bust periods as that speculation increases, which tend to align with inflation or other economic turmoil. Still, it is up 8x since the 70s even after adjusting for inflation.
Take any asset with a hard capped limited quantity, the relative worth will increase as the population grows. More people trying to own that same limited pool puts upward pressure on the price, regardless of changes in the fiat currency money supply in which it is priced:
Land, gold, silver, housing, railroads, and even more intangible things like bitcoin, Ethereum, wireless spectrum, domain names, social networks, or financial stakes in major organizations (via stocks) which will expand and hire more people as population grows. All of this passively benefits from a growing population.

Now - think about what happens when the population stops growing?

[Anonymous No.56101088]

>futures
they be vrooming

[Anonymous No.56101112]

>>56101066
Same stuff at WMT would have been $61.12

[Anonymous No.56101120]

>>56101066
>>56101112
Obviously I couldn't have said it would be 1112, trainman.

[Anonymous No.56101129]

>>56101112
I don't even know where the nearest WMT is. There really aren't many around mere, surprisingly. I guess I could have gone to TGT, which probably would have been cheaper, but the KR is within walking distance

[Anonymous No.56101135]

Today this arrives per parcel. What am I in for?

[Anonymous No.56101147]

>>56101129
>walking
Respect.

[Anonymous No.56101150]

>>56100421
>quiet cutting

I work in retail and dude the amount of people getting laid off lately is ridiculous, even more than the usual turnover shit.

The ones that got let go recently were mostly teenagers and young college kids. I live in a city with over 1/3 of a million population and the stores where I live are pretty empty besides the checkout kiosks and the rare cashier wagies.

[Anonymous No.56101153]

>>56101135
>filename
Based Bing user.

[Anonymous No.56101192]

>futures

[Anonymous No.56101219]

>>56101135
The actual term in French for nightclub is "boîte" (box). "Aller en boîte" literally means let's "go to the box." In English that means "let's go to the club" roughly.

Club de nuit sounds like a scam product, trying to make it all fancy French sounding product but failing at translations like the Chinese failed English. Hope it smells good.

[Anonymous No.56101240]

>>56101219
It's a dupe of Aventus by Creed. I think by some arabic or dubai producer. Tried others and was not convinced. Read about it again and it seems like this might be the best dupe. If not and unusable I either wasted money or try to resell. Buying Aventus is not worth it anymore it seems.

[Anonymous No.56101264]

No more upside, only downside now.
Sell.

[Anonymous No.56101284]

>>56100953
Lol if you think /gif/ is fucked you need to toughen up

[Anonymous No.56101287]

>>56101150
>I work in retail and dude the amount of people getting laid off lately is ridiculous, even more than the usual turnover shit.
>The ones that got let go recently were mostly teenagers and young college kid
That's bullish. It means they're cutting fat and focusing on productive staff that actually get work done, while reducing costs. If a company hasn't downsized, it would have bloated operating costs and less growth prospects during the upcoming downturn

[Anonymous No.56101296]

>>56101287
And when they hire it's also bullish right? And when they cut again it's also bullish. It's always bullish.

[Anonymous No.56101297]

>>56101287
They're cutting because demand is lower.

[Anonymous No.56101327]

>futures

[Anonymous No.56101331]

>>56101297
>>56101296
Hey guys I know you started paying attention to economics in the 70s or 80s but a lot of jobs are actually getting replaced by tech that's cheaper and more productive. I know, crazy!

[Anonymous No.56101334]

>>56101079
why do tv's cost so much less now

[Anonymous No.56101335]

>>56101331
>he claims that retail workers are getting fired in droves now because of muh technology
hahahaha retard

[Anonymous No.56101355]

>>56099880
I think you mean floor numbah won

[Anonymous No.56101360]

Fed will announce no cuts until 2025 at FOMC.

[Anonymous No.56101365]

>>56101334
Technological improvements, manufacturing process optimizations, and scale. Perhaps other reasons too. I'm not an industry expert, but these are just factors that match the general trend:
hard assets > personalized services > consumer products.

[Anonymous No.56101368]

>>56101331

[Anonymous No.56101376]

>>56101365
Ok so then we can have technological improvements cover for inflationary pressure, and also the lack of population growth means lack of demand growth as well

[Anonymous No.56101388]

>>56101334
>>56101365
>>56101376
The cheap bullshit you import from China like TVs only seem cheap because those goods weren't produced in an economy where the government has been lying about inflation for decades. They're imported from uninflated economies located somewhere else.

[Anonymous No.56101397]

>>56101027
Top signal, but if gold drops what will go up?

[Anonymous No.56101416]

>>56101376
>the lack of population growth means lack of demand growth as well
Yes, less supply due to less workers, but also less demand. Overall neutral for consumables pricing. Net negative for those limited quantity assets/investments, as there is more gold/stocks/land to be split amongst a shrinking youth. Aging boomers sell down their own assets in retirement.

I also question the federal government's ability to continue with fiscal expansion in an era of stagnating population, particularly given that much of the debt is in the form of inflation adjusted pensions/entitlements, and there's a growing snowball of interest on existing debt.
Perhaps this can be solved. Perhaps tech innovation can continue leading the economy to a better place.

My primary concern is that we today may be buying the peak of a multi-decade asset pump/ponzi, with no younger generation to follow in our footsteps. One final fuck you from the boomers as they sell us their lifelong bags.
Perhaps the whole idea of saving is overrated. Perhaps we should've be chasing these mature companies at 30x or more earnings multiples, hoping for some future growth miracle.

[Anonymous No.56101436]

>>56101397
My dick

[Anonymous No.56101490]

>BMW DOWNGRADED
Lmao, should have stood short. Anyways, not gonna risk it again.

[Anonymous No.56101519]

>>56101416
>Perhaps we should've be chasing these mature companies at 30x or more earnings multiples, hoping for some future growth miracle.

it's like you just understood how people would pour money into things like crypto. the younger generation is giving up on traditional finance not because it's inherently flawed or any real logical reason but mostly the emotional aspects of knowing they're getting literally dumped on by older generations who are squeezing the financial system for everything it's worth. a new financial system is wanted by both the young generation as well as many international systems that fail for other reasons. i personally don't expect to see a real paradigm change in my lifetime but in the longer term (generational+) i expect the traditional US-based financial systems will fall to new ones

[Anonymous No.56101543]

>>56101519
>it's like you just understood how people would pour money into things like crypto.
Crypto is just another attempt to build a new ponzi. I'm thinking more about the rental class, the ones that rack up student loans and credit card debt and then put in their minimum monthly payment knowing they'll probably never pay it off. I've never really understood that behavior, but I'm beginning to now. Still think they're retarded, but perhaps they're onto something.

[Anonymous No.56101557]

>>56101543
>Crypto is just another attempt to build a new ponzi

OK, that doesn't really mean anything. The current ponzi is losing its appeal. People are changing directions

>I'm thinking more about the rental class, the ones that rack up student loans and credit card debt and then put in their minimum monthly payment knowing they'll probably never pay it off.

Again, what is the purpose of these individuals buying into the existing financial system? They don't. You're mistaking a symptom for a problem. Current systems are failing in perception, and perception is reality when you require new blood to keep the machine running

[Anonymous No.56101559]

>>56101543
You really have to fuck up big to completely nuke your credit and a lot of people will just ride on it until the wheels fall off or barely do enough to keep them on. It's stupid because they're digging a massive hole they'll never get out of more likely than not but if you're alright with being in the hole and plan on or know you'll be dead before it'll ever matter then there's worse ideas. It's also the main reason why trying to psyop and demoralize the populace is ultimately stupid as people will just start giving up and debtmaxxing and it'll eventually start to fuck shit up. We were at record private debt/credit use levels not that long ago like just a couple months. If you make shit suck too much people will just give up and lean on the system until it breaks.

[Anonymous No.56101573]

baking

[Anonymous No.56101576]

>>56101557
People don't trust finance right now because they're not fucking idiots and they know it's a fugazi. We were at 2500 on the shit and piss in 2017 and we're not far from the ATH of 4950 right now. That's blatantly unsustainable and anyone with half a brain would be wary, there needs to be a correction before people actually trust the markets seriously again. After that things will just continue in more or less the status quo now which is crypto will exist alongside the traditional monetary structure and it'll be regulatory captured and taxed such that even if it's a viable alternative it'll cost a shitload in fees and taxes or else the banks will just blacklist it and not let you on or offramp whether you're KYC'ed or not. Two thirds of all global trade is done in USD, even if everyone actually did hate it and want to move to something different it would still take quite some time before it stopped being the majority currency.

[Anonymous No.56101582]

>>56101576
>That's blatantly unsustainable
do you have a single coherent reason to back that up?

[Anonymous No.56101604]

>>56101582
Yes and so would anyone that looked at the all-time chart.

[Anonymous No.56101611]

>>56101557
>OK, that doesn't really mean anything. The current ponzi is losing its appeal. People are changing directions
It means exactly what I said. It's worthless. It's hopeless. Every dollar that's ever been profited off bitcoin is now a dollar that someone is bagholding, hoping someone will pay them more dollars later. Perhaps they'll continue to make money in dollar terms as the money supply expands rapidly, but like the other assets I mentioned above, they won't see *real* gains unless someone steps in and buys their bags, a cycle that can't possibly continue indefinitely without population growth and growing interest in the ponzi. You don't get rich merely by preserving your wealth.

[Anonymous No.56101646]

>>56101604
Why did you skip 2003 bottom and 2008 top?

[Anonymous No.56101661]

>>56101660
>>56101660
>>56101660

[Anonymous No.56101741]

>>56101646
Isn't a retracement point per fib

[Anonymous No.56102407]

>>56099139
That is because the streets are full of western women.

[Anonymous No.56102807]

>>56100934
like with oil it can just go down and sideways for the next year, I wouldnt bet my whole portofolio on it