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[Anonymous No.56055485]

why doesn’t everyone study tech?

for instance i knew this jewish family from long island. one ended up going to college for tech shit in the 80s and ended up making 6 figures and living in a gated community.

the other one didn’t. ended up moving to the country, poor and destitute, working a demeaning shit job.

why do people not want cushy jobs making 90k from home?

[Anonymous No.56055496]

Cornell and MIT are two organization that won't exist after 2024

[Anonymous No.56055503]

>>56055496
muh doomsday autism

[bitcoin No.56055538]

>>56055485
only top 5% of tech workers make it, others are wagies

[Anonymous No.56055546]

>>56055503
A little cleaning isn't a doomsday, it's a reverse to the mean, and those pseuds need a deep cleaning with their organizations broken up and the networks killed

[Anonymous No.56055607]

>>56055485
>muh tech
dumb normies do not and can never understand programming. smart nerds find writing, debugging, and maintaining code to be unbearably tedious. the subset of the population that can tolerate writing code and excel at it is pretty small. of that subset, most see the writing on the wall with respect to street shitters, automation, and ageism, and promptly fuck off into management. in any case, whether you're interested in pursuing a technical career or a managerial career, there are better options with greater career longevity and better pay: dentistry, medicine, law, accounting, and so on.

>DUDE $784K TC 2 HOURS A WORK EVERY QUARTER LMAO
pic related.

[Anonymous No.56055720]

>>56055607
what about cyber security? that’s pretty normie tier.

[Anonymous No.56055740]

>>56055485
Tech is not for low IQ subhuman NPCs (e.g. almost everyone)

[Anonymous No.56055743]

>>56055538
so? 0% of unskilled workers make it.
5 > 0

[Anonymous No.56055752]

>>56055720
>cyber security
>normie
LMAO ok retard

[Anonymous No.56055779]

>>56055720
most """"cyber security"""" roles are SOC analyst wagie nonsense where you fill out TPS reports for $70-100k/year. the higher paying roles are reserved for exceptionally talented autistics who taught themselves penetration testing and malware analysis in their teens.

[Anonymous No.56055795]

>>56055607
>dentistry, medicine, law, accounting, and so on.
All of these are under huge threat from the same sources as programmers. Paralegals are going to be completely wiped out, accountants are done unless they're in a client facing role, surgery won't take long to crack either.

[Anonymous No.56055818]

>>56055795
>law
no one is going to entrust a murder case or a multi million dollar contractual dispute to an """AI"""" aka a probability weighted sentence constructor. lawyers might outsource some of their work to this nonsense but they aren't risking their license by allowing it to operate unsupervised.
>accountants
SOX regulations hold executives accountable for financial results, with the risk of prison sentences for willful negligence. same case as above. accounting wagies will still be preparing and reviewing work which has been augmented by """"AI."""" although i am an accountant at $100B/year+ company and a large part of my job is fixing ERP automation errors.
>surgery
same as the preceding two examples. patients demand accountability. you can't sue a robot. surgeon/physician supervision will be required. no sane doctor will risk his medical license by running procedures or diagnostics unsupervised.

[Anonymous No.56055825]

>>56055779
>SOC analyst wagie nonsense where you fill out TPS reports for $70-100k/year.
I'll take it. Is a CS degree good enough or do I need a bunch of Comptia Certs and experience too?

[Anonymous No.56055852]

>>56055607
> the subset of the population that can tolerate writing code and excel at it is pretty small
True and it's rarely ever brought up. Programming is 80% either maintaining shit someone else wrote and attempting to figure what they did OR it's trying to understand why the program doesn't do exactly what you want it to do. Not even talking about best practices or deadlines.

There is a reason vast majority of SWE move to management or sales after reaching a certain age (around 40-50) while typical other white collar jobs (lawyers, doctors, academics, etc...) keep practicing the same thing until they retire and even some well in their 70s.

>>56055795
>surgery won't take long to crack either.
t. absolutely clueless 'tard who neither worked in an OR a single day in his life nor understand how machine learning works (pro-tip: there are no dataset for surgical operations).

[Anonymous No.56055869]

>>56055825
cs isn’t necessary wrong degree chud

[Anonymous No.56055891]

>>56055852
Cope medcuck. Programmers will be ruling the world long after you're rendered obsolete.

[Anonymous No.56055910]

>>56055485
>why do people not want cushy jobs making 90k from home?
white collar wagies (with the exception of a very small minority in every industry) are pretty much done. learn a trade

[Anonymous No.56055920]

>>56055891
>arrogant dunning krguer codecuck
your so-called """profession""" has been continually reinventing the wheel for the last few decades with programming language after programming language, framework after framework. let me know when you dumb niggers reach a consensus (if ever) on how to best spin up phone app or a website, then we can talk about solving real problems in the real world, ones which are beheld to real constraints and standards of intelligence and correctness.

[Anonymous No.56055927]

>>56055920
Typed from your computer, tablet, or smartphone.

[Anonymous No.56055970]

>>56055927
you mean the device which now requires 16GB+ of RAM and a 2 GHZ+ multi-core CPU just to barely function on the simplest of normie websites due to the abject incompetence of the average codenigger?

[Anonymous No.56055992]

>>56055970
i would never let you be my doctor

[Anonymous No.56056032]

>>56055920
My man, shit is like that because reinventing the wheel sells when most people are too retarded to even touch a computer.

[Anonymous No.56056057]

>>56056032
yes anon it's some supervillain master plan to defraud the sexhavers, and it's not the consequence of most codeniggers being fickle and incompetent retards who are incapable of solving what should be a solved problem.

meanwhile, back in reality, the average codenigger is crying about the reality of their shit pay >>56055607, having to grind brain teasers, and having to learn yet another framework's re-interpretation of how things should be done.

>uhhmmm actually i make $841k TC, do none of that, and work less than 2 hours a day

[Anonymous No.56056078]

>>56055607
If having a tech job meant being good at programming I'd be a millionaire.
It's like 90% admin work and social bullshit with maybe once or twice a year some trivial programming problem.

Fuck working it's so fake and gay.

[Anonymous No.56056087]

>>56055485
40 years ago you could be rich working in tech. Now you can just survive.

[Anonymous No.56056102]

>>56055920
Based

[Anonymous No.56056115]

>>56055891
I'm a dual major in bioinformatics and medicine, Ranjeet. I am working on risk stratification based on biomarkers for intensive care patients.

Training an algorithm to identify patterns on images of biopsies or CT scan slice is one thing (and arguably a good one), training an algo to do something as basic as a hip arthroplasty from skin to skin is exponentially more complex, especially when humans are built in different sizes and proportions.
I'm not even talking about something more chaotic like traumatology or oncological surgery where you never really know what you will find until you cut.

Anyone telling otherwise is either a Dunning Kruger like you or a snake oil salesman (like many healthcare company). When I was rotating in visceral surgery I had an attending who told us back in the early 00s they believed that everyone of his generation would operate with a robot (the Da Vinci was introduced in 2000) by the end of their careers, meanwhile half of his operations weren't even laparoscopic.

[Anonymous No.56056136]

>>56056087
This. The problem is that everything else is worse.

[Anonymous No.56056166]

>>56055869
say it aint so

[Anonymous No.56056220]

>>56056115

[Anonymous No.56056246]

>>56056220
"I dequeue jira tickets"

[Anonymous No.56056376]

>>56056220
To be clear I'm an ICU doc and practicing, I just have 30% of my time allocated to do postdoc research where I program with some SWE and recently a few maths doctoral students.