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Delivery Edition

>Why Gold?

>Bullion dealers
https://libertycoin.com/ (US)
https://www.chards.co.uk/ (EU/UK)
https://www.silburycoins.co.uk/ (Ancient)
https://www.luciteria.com/ (Other rare metals)
more at: https://pastebin.com/gZfZHtNE

>Numismatic search

>News and graphs

https://findbullionprices.com/ (US)
https://eu.compare.pm/ (EU)
https://www.gold.de/aufgeldtabelle/ (DE/EU)



>Nitric acid, magnets, and ping test

Previous Thread: >>56024055

>> No.56038714
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fuck crypto
fuck stocks
keep on stackin

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>> No.56038751

Thanks for the answers about the grams of gold. As far as I can see there's no absolute need to have some already but I had to ask since I don't know it all.

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good morning, sirs.

>> No.56038824

well there's no need to go FOMO all your life savings into PMs, but there is definitely a need to start stackin.

>> No.56038995

Boomer rocks serve no purpose now that we have achieved a soft landing and there will be no recession. Investors are dumping risk assets and rushing into US stocks, we will have another bullmarket by end of year once FED pivots.

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Juden Morgen mine hairs

>> No.56039115

>now that we have achieved a soft landing and there will be no recession
Whew! Thanks!
brb, dumping my stack.....

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Barts death-bed confessions.

>> No.56039200

Thanks this financial advice was free, but next time I will have to charge you my usual hourly rate I am afraid.

>> No.56039314

I'm down 96% on Bayhorse Silver stock lol

>> No.56039335

just sell and harvest the loss, fren
bayhorse doesn't even update its social media anymore
it's dead

>> No.56039348

No way. Might as well wait to sell for 100% loss than harvest literal pennies on the dollar. If PMs move unexpectedly miners will likely experience a pump right along with it.

>> No.56039367

Also, remember that part of the shorting of silver REQUIRES that manipulators also impact the share value of producers. Most of my miners are down massively and I would never bother investing in anything orher than NEM and Barrick ever again. But I think the thesis is correct that these mines are undervalued so much that we actually risk them getting nationalized.

>> No.56039368

some miners will
bayhorse blows tho
the dream is dead

>> No.56039405

Yep - I'm still riding that dead horse for the laughs at this point. Thank goodness I didn't put much in.
A reminder of how greed can blind.

>> No.56039415

i don't think it was greed
people wanted to invest in a small miner and help it produce
but graeme just took everyone for a ride

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Thread theme

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hhhhnggg, fantastic collection my fren!

>> No.56039634
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Most expensive but valuable lesson : never approach a (((junior))). Ever.

>> No.56039734
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Redpill me on alts.

>> No.56039754

Ouch Sorry Anon. I lost about $3000 to junior miners, I'm never going to invest in miners again.

I hope you bounce back from that without too much drama.

>> No.56039820

Expensive, exotic speculations on useful materials. Te is on the endangered list of elements and will no comfy item to stash away for your long-term portfolio. I own 5kilos that I overpaid for and it doesn't bother me one bit.

>> No.56039886

Guys remember that gold is money and silver was money when it was scarce. Nobody should stay 100% in money even if it's nice and shinny because in the long run the value either stays the same or slightly decrease. It's OK to have some for hedging or if you think something big is about to happen but don't make erroneous financial decisions just to stick it to the man.

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stay away from memeium metals

>> No.56039957
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>>delivery edition

>> No.56039975

I think a quick perusal of metals that are too small a market to be contained by the derivatives market give us a glimpse into what can happen. Rhodium and Palladium both have some runaway charts that should have all of us very hopeful for the future. Not just in Silver but literally every useful, value-dense material we can dig up that will not spoil. By no means should people go crazy, but my Te is going to make my life extra comfy 20-30 years down the line.

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retard here, when hyper inflation hits or some sort of crash happens where the middle class is destroyed and lose everything, how do we convince the desperate public that hard assets such as gold, silver, land is the way to go and not some computer central digital currency that would be a continuation of the debt system?

if the majority buy into a digital only system doesn't that make us even more fucked for PMs? We are sort of relying on the general public to make a protest and choice to go back to metals and hard assets that the FED and faggot elites can't print, and for the desperate confused public to refuse a digital system

its bit of a long shot, not even trying to fud gold and silver, how would this affect the price of PMs if a central digital only currency happens? Will there be major push back, or compliance? Both?

Maybe a surface digital system for the public that complies, and a underground barter/black market with precious metals, food, and general trade?

im just thinking out loud, i don't think a total mad max scenario is possible, they want society to keep on, but they want to make it bad enough to get people desperate to accept any solution to stay comfortable

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>In 2022, the major applications of tellurium were thin-film solar cells (40%), thermoelectrics (30%), metallurgy (15%), and rubber (5%), with the first two applications experiencing a rapid increase owing to the worldwide tendency of reducing dependence on the fossil fuel.[39][9] In metallurgy, tellurium is added to iron, stainless steel, copper, and lead alloys. It improves the machinability of copper without reducing its high electrical conductivity. It increases resistance to vibration and fatigue of lead and stabilizes various carbides and in malleable iron.[9]
> Synthetic rubber vulcanized with tellurium shows mechanical and thermal properties that in some ways are superior to sulfur-vulcanized materials.[57][56]
> Tellurium compounds are specialized pigments for ceramics.[22]
> Selenides and tellurides greatly increase the optical refraction of glass widely used in glass optical fibers for telecommunications.[58][59]
> Mixtures of selenium and tellurium are used with barium peroxide as an oxidizer in the delay powder of electric blasting caps.[60]
> Neutron bombardment of tellurium is the most common way to produce iodine-131.[61] This in turn is used to treat some thyroid conditions, and as a tracer compound in hydraulic fracturing, among other applications.
>Cadmium telluride (CdTe) solar panels exhibit some of the greatest efficiencies for solar cell electric power generators.[62]
>In 2018, China installed thin-film solar panels with a total power output of 175 GW, more than any other country in the world; most of those panels were made of CdTe.[9] In June 2022, China set goals of generating 25% of energy consumption and installing 1.2 billion kilowatts of capacity for wind and solar power by 2030. This proposal will increase the demand for tellurium and its production worldwide, especially in China, where the annual volumes of Te refining increased from 280 tonnes in 2017 to 340 tonnes in 2022.
Te chads are winning.

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do anons own a safe, what value would you recommend getting one at

>> No.56040332
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Concerts, guitar picks, and PMs.
what more can you ask for?

>> No.56040355

I'm going to a concert on Friday
Maybe I'll buy a gold coin this weekend also

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I could ask for Anime figures

>> No.56040359
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Russian ambassador to South Africa revealed 100 BRICS banknote in the UAE. Didn't they say it was backed by gold?

>> No.56040367

Well how would that switch from one fiat to another even work.
>hey man, the USD just shit the bed, but try this CUSD out because…it’s the same fucking thing? We have the edge in that every sorry motherfucker knows what gold and silver are. At that point, we’ll just need a modest but effective propaganda machine to make sure the cryptoids don’t try pulling some funny bullshit.

>> No.56040379

Every country has its name on the bill except China. This triggers me.

>> No.56040395

It's on the top
Their culture icon was in the way

>> No.56040403

The fact that it’s the odd one out still gets to me. I wonder if there’s any obscure symbolism on the bill. I’m seeing a windmill of peace and friendship on there in the way those 100s are arranged.

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Is it worth it to get into Bayhorse today? The stock can't fall much further than this right? And they're producing silver right?

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god damnit

>> No.56040474

Oops…didn’t mean that last part to be in green text.

>> No.56040488

Oh dw fren, it's not mine. I saved it from a previous bread. Personally i'm in the same boat as you, lost about $4 K to juniors (even tho i invested in 7-8 different ""miners"", they all went down by -95% the same way).
Never again.
Never going to buy a single stock, no matter the sector anyway. The more i learned about the stock market, the more it became evident the
>at least a company back your shares!
is a complete lie. It's nothing but a giant scam acting as a liquidity sponge to divert ppl from buying real assets.

>> No.56040577

A discret spot you don't talk about to anyone to hide your stack is worth all the safes in the world. I do own one of those shitty $80-100 safe you see everywhere. The thing is so fucking shit i'm pretty sure i could open it by just slapping vigorously on the roof top.
I don't even bother using it, i've better alternatives all around the house.

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I am thinking about buying a Gold Buffalo pretty soon after seeing all my concerts.
I already saw metallica, xandria, battle beast, and Kamelot over the weekend.
pretty soon I will be getting a yukikaze nendo

>> No.56040604

yeah companies can just print stock like the government prints dollars lol

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(Never Stop Posting Pics of Miss Akiyama)

>> No.56040620

I'm probably going to get an eagle, I have one more buffalo than eagle, and I need to level the playing field a bit. Seeing the smashing pumpkins Friday, pretty excited.

>> No.56040644

Bro’s potential sign of incoming asset price collapse. I talked with my banker/mortgage broker about 2 months ago and he stated I could borrow up to 240k (leaf bucks). We spoke again today and he stated they could only loan me 80k despite my income rising, having assets, and no debt…. I hope my stack is worth something when this shtf.

>> No.56040713

Historically, hard deflation never last more than few months. It's always immediately followed by the government printing to giga-oblivion, so no need to worry about it. The state fears nothing more than a drying down of liquidity risking to halt economic interactions, so they always prefer hyperinflation to deflation, and for good reasons.

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Nice. I saw Metallica in concert once, sometime way back in the 90s.

>> No.56040926

Yes. It has the house abstract and some insurance paperwork in it. Gold and silver is in an oversized pressboard box next to my desk.

>> No.56040967

>The stock can't fall much further
0 and closing out is indeed possible.

>> No.56040984

Very nice!

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Hope so fren. I fear that there are too many incompetent people in power up here in Canada.

Buy something inconspicuous like a sarcophagus.

>> No.56041046

Every other asset is propped up by an unsustainable debt bubble.

>> No.56041075

I've got some tellurium too. It's a pretty cheap diversification. But I think people should focus on gold and silver first.

>> No.56041080

hyperinflation is what incompetent people do lol

>> No.56041096

Gold and silver have been money for most of the world for most of human history. Digital currency has been money for almost nobody ever. Which do you think is more likely to be embraced after government destroys everyone's wealth? An even more bizarre government currency that nobody has ever used? I think that is a no-brainer.

>> No.56041141

Is the cultural icon of SA a bunch of people looting a store? I can't tell . . .

>> No.56041145

Sounds like common sense. But don’t count on people having common sense.

>> No.56041172

Yes, inflation is a secret tax. That's why governments can't resist it.

>> No.56041305

I count on the natural monetary attributes of gold and silver, along with the deeply ingrained habit of people thinking about gold and silver as valuable. Even if the USA puts the screws to the American people to get them to accept some Fed shitcoin, it will never fly outside US borders. Foreigners aren't going to accept another phony American currency in place of the dollar and the USA is too dependent on international trade to go it alone. The USA will have to adopt a currency that has global credibility.

>> No.56041389

as other anons say: people not knowing you have valuables is the first step. The second is hiding your safe so that they don't even know to steal it.

>> No.56041405

stuff I think about is a wall cabinet with a fake brick facade so that you can open it and get to it easily and the crypsis makes it unlikely to be detected by criminals.

>> No.56041417

i really should pick up a luger at some point. i like the picture

>> No.56041419

Burying shit is cost effective and safe.

>> No.56041469

nobody wants to bury their valuables. so many people die with their valuables buried and they aren't found for hundreds of years.

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And better than that : inflation destroys old money, i.e. debts (public and private) and savings, two things the government wants to get rid of. While giving an unfair advantage to new money. Lemme explain because it may not be obvious, but when it's fresh off the press, new cash needs to have been spent at least once by several economic actors (newly acquired velocity) before the now diluted existing fiat pool gets impacted, thus creating prices' inflation in reaction. But who are the first actors able to spend freshly printed money? The ones creating it of course, i.e. the government (to finance it's deficit spendings) and the banks.
Always more cash chasing the same amount of goods is only a problem for the ones unable to get their hands on more cash.

Money printing is like banks/gubment stealing cash straight from your pocket, spending it at the nearest restaurant, then instead of trashing the bill, they put it back in your pocket. Then they burp at your face and tell you to be a responsible man with your savings kek.

Dw fren, it's their very incompetence who will fuel said inflation. On top of them fearing for their lives. It's always easier psychologically wise to manage a population of starving trillionaires than a population of starving pennylessionaires.

>> No.56041593

Picked up my three maples [2023]. Tried to dispose of packaging at the post-office and a big nigger gave me hassle and attitude. Complaint ticked filed; but prolly nothing will come of it.

>> No.56041611

Well it’s not like you need them if you’re dead. And if you do want someone to find them you can just leave a treasure map, or dig it up and give it to your next of kin.

>> No.56041634

that looks neat, i like it

>> No.56041637

>>56041588 (checked)
Helpful explanation anon. Political speeches about the economy are basically first spenders belching in the faces of citizens.

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>mfw South Africa's official title is still written in Afrikaans
Bantuniggers btfo.

>> No.56041690

So immivader race bolshies go home now? Is it safe for them to go back? Repatriate themselves. Remigrate themselves. They ought to go back.

>> No.56041700

is this some pro-ukraine bullshit? go away

>> No.56041780

>Political speeches about the economy are basically first spenders belching in the faces of citizens
Exactly kek. It depends of many variables, but usually inflation is delayed by few months after the new pool of cash is spent for the first time. So it's few months where (((they))) get to enjoy printing/spending with none of the side effects. Only us the plebs get impacted by it.

And you'll see, as the economic situation further degrade, they will delay the announcement of new rounds of money printing always more. Up to the point where they will (discretly) announce it weeks AFTER it was done, rather than before. It has always ended up like this historically.

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It was either get a luger or buy an ounce of gold
I missed out on one that the "Old man" had at his shop, he wanted $1600 for an all black luger it wasnt a "black widow", but all matching and no import markings.
He has several DWM lugers at his shop rn, wants $1800 for them though.
Got mine off of gunbroker for $1200

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Weapon newfag here.
When you speak about lugers, dym ones dating back from WW2? Or did they continue the production afterward?

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Victoria enjoyer here

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DWM was making lugers before, during, an after ww1, then lugers were produced by Mauser before ww2 (1930).

>> No.56042036

I keep my stuff in an open area that not a single person would find, not even myself unless I tried really hard.

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>>56041700 (checked)
No. Nothing fancy: I just want racial strangers go home.

>> No.56042303

I got a special spot on an island I bury it on in public land, it really helps with the over all feel of hoarding PMs

>> No.56042369

You might like looking around at LugerMan. Beautiful craftsmanship. Intense historical authenticity.

>> No.56042436

>45 luger
that could be interesting. thanks for the link

>> No.56042487

Nice concept, but I think the currency will have a different design seeing as six new members are joining the bloc in 2024.

>> No.56042522

I dunno about anyone else, but I feel deflation is only a problem for banks, not the people as it causes them to default for lending out currency they don't have. We are never told this, only that deflation is bad. This alone confirms that the banks rule the world.

>> No.56042609

Deflation is a weird concept for me. If inflation is the purchasing power of your dollar going down due to an excess supply of money…then deflation would be like…purchasing power goes up due to a shortage of money, or excess of goods. But I don’t really get how banks are affected. I’ll need a qrd.

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>> No.56042656

Where do banks and loans come into play here?

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>> No.56042792
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Who’s going to the corn show?

>> No.56042793

Okay so banks are firmly opposed to deflation and less concerned with inflation because deflation would basically fuck their ability to pay off the outrageous loans they’ve all taken out?

>> No.56042821

Where do you guys buy your coins? I've only purchased from Apmex.

>> No.56042831

Wherever, really. I shop around. Granted, it’s gotta be a legit big name dealer. Yeah, they might charge extra, but I’m okay paying a little extra as opposed to getting a potential fake from coinguy123 on eBay.

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>well there's no need to go FOMO all your life savings into PMs
I did, and I'm just gonna keep stacking moar!

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>Waffle waffle waffle
>Another important reason for avoiding deflation is that it increases the real value of debt, and it could make it harder to repay

And here it is, the naked truth. Deflation kills the ponzi scheme.

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I'm gonna stick it to the man!

>> No.56042904

i was going to post this one too as a video arguing a couple counter points to the last one. would definitely make it harder for them to pay existing debt if they're taking in fewer dollars


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i miss this car a little bit. hows that for an on-topic post

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it was the apr 3+ development car. i had to sign an nda and everything

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Started stacking finally with a small amount of gold and silver. First time purchasing precious metals and it felt good to get my shipment in. It is a small start but where do you anons purchase your gold/slver? I have checked the sticky but curious what the generals opinion is.
Another anon said xdxwg8goldbacks where not a good buy, was thinking about purchasing more to just have one of the states goldbacks. The are cool looking.

>> No.56043106

anon said goldbacks*

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nice start. ya done good anon.
love the Silver Eagles

>> No.56043156

boldpreciousmetals has great deals

>> No.56043180

I buy from APMEX as well as a few other different online vendors-
Monument Metals
Provident Metals
SD Bullion
got a few pieces form MountVernonCoin a little while back

>> No.56043202

Nice. Silver is the way to go for me to stack as of now. My two gold coins were so small I thought they didn't get shipped. The 10 gram bar is small too, but it was so satisfying to hold the silver 1oz coins and the 10oz bar.

>> No.56043207

Hello anon, relatively new stacker but have had good luck with JM bullion. Bought some rounds and a little bar (5 oz). For coins, you’re dealing with 2 markets, metals and coin collectors so they have a little different methodology to them. Main thing is to avoid massive premiums over spot

>> No.56043229

bold or monumental for regular coins and ma-shops for older coins / german coins

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>> No.56043308

Your start is worth more than my whole stack, I think.

>> No.56043385

How does inflation erase debt when that debt comes with compound interest? That only happens if that debt has a fixed interest rate and inflation goes hyper, also it doesn't help with overall debt which must always go up. Seems like a pilpul argument.

>> No.56043400

they could print 500 trillion tomorrow and pay off the debt if they really wanted to, that's how

>> No.56043404

Depends on the rate of inflation, but I see what you’re getting at. If the rate of inflation is higher than the interest rate, then it stands to reason that you’d be in the clear. Granted, if your debt is so great that your ass has totally quit trying to even pay the debt itself…you’re sunk anyway.

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>How does inflation erase debt
It doesn't erase debt, it erases the real value of debt.

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Great starter stack, but do you like the Silver Surfer?

>> No.56043459

That only works for government debt.
Currently interest rates for retail loans around here are around 15%. That would require a lot of inflation for it to go down in real terms.
I don't see how, except maybe for fixed rate mortgages locked in at 2-3%.

>> No.56043464

By overwhelming the inflation expectations of those who lend the money.
You're right in that interest rates adjust upwards for new debt while the inflation is happening but not before. Also you have to understand that most big debt doesn't have a variable interest rate.

>> No.56043477

That is where I purchased the two 1/10 gold coins, 10 gram PAMP bar, 10 oz silver bar and four 1oz silver rounds. The three gold backs, two silver rounds and five 1/10 oz silver Britannias are from wolf pack gold. Did just a onetime payment to see how it worked. Not sure if I am doing it right, but will keep researching and stacking.

>> No.56043492

Alright, but overall debt levels still grows exponentially. It's just shuffling that debt around. Not my problem, I guess.

>> No.56043506

liberty has a backdoor code apparently they can give without a court order

>> No.56043518

inflation allows them to keep the game going longer. nobody is saying this system is stable

>> No.56043524

>not using open source safes without backdoors

>> No.56043534

>That only happens if that debt has a fixed interest rate
You answered your own question. The overwhelming majority of privately compulsed debt worldwide has fixed IR. Variable only exist in few protestant countries to rape the plebs.

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Good time to buy in my estimation. Bought some shot to practice my smelting, and 2 more fractional gold coins on the way. Also looking to scoop up some more junk while premiums are low.

JMBullion is probably the best large storefront, good mix of selection and deals. Apmex has a larger selection but they'll scalp you on premiums.Still useful if you have something you're looking for but can't find it elsewhere. Liberty.coin's ebay storefront is my favorite source of fractional gold, they run regular deals. Monument Metals has been growing on me, they've had some great deals lately, but their selection is limited.

>> No.56043553

>I don't see how
People's wages go up with inflation as well.

>except maybe for fixed rate mortgages locked in at 2-3%
Correct. Interest rates have to flat line, or decrease overtime for old debt to be made less valuable. It's all a numbers game with lag built into the system, meaning the early bird is the one that catches the juiciest worm.

>> No.56043568

Usually it's the currency losing value due to a external shock and/or government being retarded. Doesn't necessarily mean more debt but what it means is for some reason a lot of current is suddenly hitting a limited amount of goods.

>> No.56043572

Man, I wish wages went up.

>> No.56043583

Doesn't matter anon, my stack is under $2000 which is nothing. Keep stacking whatever you can, guns, ammo, food, water, silver and gold. Stack it.

>> No.56043606

Here are some actual examples:

Russia, 1996-1999: Cumulative inflation could have exceeded 200% in this period. A 1,000,000 ruble loan in 1996 could effectively be worth around 330,000 rubles by 1999 in real terms.

Ukraine, 1993-1996: With a cumulative hyperinflation reaching several thousand percent, a loan of 1,000,000 hryvnia in 1993 could become almost entirely negligible in real terms by 1996.

Belarus, 1995-2000: With cumulative inflation exceeding 500% in this period, a 1,000,000 Belarusian ruble loan in 1995 could be worth less than 200,000 rubles in real terms by 2000.

Romania, 1990-1995: Cumulative inflation over this period could easily exceed 1,000%. A 1,000,000 lei loan in 1990 would be worth less than 100,000 lei in real terms by 1995.

Now imagine you were some real estate fag involved in some large ass commercial real estate projects.

>> No.56043639

they have. i remember when $15 an hour for mcdonalds workers was a pipedream. now it's standard

>> No.56043645

If he is made of silver, I would like to buy a piece of him and/or encourage him to destroy every BIS, IMF and federal reserve back in existence. Then enforce a silver backed currency the world had to follow or be destroyed.

>> No.56043648

and there are 100k mustangs now nigger. it barely counts

>> No.56043651

In some places maybe. But it’s $12 where I lived. And that wage growth is grossly disproportionate.

>> No.56043703
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most of them just dissolve when you expose them to air for too long

>> No.56043723

Even with a fixed interest rate this can only happens when inflation suddenly spikes unexpectedly since no one lends at sub inflation interest. Inflation, or rather income increases outpacing interest rates is not what happens in the general case.
Interesting but kinda proves my point that you need real high inflation to outpace interest rates which is its own can of worms and usually not a good thing overall. Usually an event like this is called crisis.

>> No.56043730

Should I just put money aside to buy 1 oz gold per month, or should I buy all in one go?
Do you guys have safes? I just live in the city where there's heaps of crackheads, and it's hard to track stolen physical investments.

>> No.56043733

God speed fren. Make sure to also stock up on brass if you know what I mean. My stack is dangerously low (for a non normie) after the holiday weekend

>> No.56043738
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So what if you just don't do that?

>> No.56043748
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>Good time to buy in my estimation.
Pretty decent indeed, the mix of recently tamped down prices + return of low premiums make it interesting, especially for silber.

I thought we would see some financial fireworks in August, as summer is usually a very stressful period for western banks (due to western nations bleeding hundreds of billions USD from all the wagies going in vacation at the same time and spending their savings in the southern hemisphere, it create a huge transfert of cash and a vacuum effect).
But in truth it was surprising (awfully) quiet. And market stability is not bullish for PMs, thus probably why the prices are slowly creeping down.
Yet, just looking at the numbers, you'd think we are in the middle of a cataclysmic maelstrom. CC debt for one (surpassed $1T in the US for the first time ever, 2/3rd of mutts admitting it was either to buy groceries or because of small unexpected events.. which is very grim), abysmal savings rates (lowest ever), or the bond market imploding due to extreme lack of confidence in abilities to repay sovereign debt at the current rates...

Everything is flashing bright red, the "you vill own nozing and be happy" is already a reality for most, and nothing happens. Are we in the eye of the can-kicking's storm?

>> No.56043763

>Interesting but kinda proves my point that you need real high inflation to outpace interest rates which is its own can of worms and usually not a good thing overall. Usually an event like this is called crisis.
do you think we're not in a crisis? lol
you sound like someone who believes the official inflation numbers

>> No.56043776

the goose just needs a little more time to cook

>> No.56043790

That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that claiming the current system is desirable because it erases old debt is retarded and only a Jew would argue like that.

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I have been stacking that before buying precious metals fren. I had multiple guns before the evil climate change hurricane washed them away this year including my folding stock for the evo. Really sad I can't defend my stack anymore.

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Today’s delivery, I think the fleet is pushing armada status

>> No.56043886
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nobody said this current system is desirable

>> No.56043982
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Wait a minute kek.. how long do you believe the Fed will manage to keep the current rates at 5.5/6% when they currently cost us a fucking TRILLION per annum?
The public debt is exploding like never before (+1T per Quarter), partially from the coupons we have to pay to bondholders. Where will the government find the money to your opinion? New taxes (hard to levy when 60% of your pop is CC debtmaxxed and with zero savings) and cuts in the budget (with dems in charge and before the elections? no way lol) wont even make a dent.

Why do you think we are struggling to find foreign investors to purchase our treasuries even though even the short maturity ones (thus low risk) we issue have super juicy coupon rates not seen since before the GFC?
Don't make the mistake to believe this is the new normal when the machinery is already leaking steam and oil from every cog.

>> No.56044011

Those who bring up this argument propose it's one of its desirable properties. But it doesn't really happen unless there is catastrophic failure in the system. Which is not really desirable.
I don't know why you posted this wall of text. It's simple, interest rates are always going to be higher than inflation and when they suddenly aren't it's an accident and bad things tend to happen.

>> No.56044026

>It's simple, interest rates are always going to be higher than inflation
No wall sneeded indeed : you are retarded.

>> No.56044033

>It's simple, interest rates are always going to be higher than inflation
Western governments cook the books by using CPI instead of RPI, plus we haven't seen a single one of them raise interest rates above inflation to tackle it. It has always been about the soft landing bollocks of raising interest rates to take inflation to disinflation.

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I wouldn't call it the eye of the hurricane, but we're certainly in the outer bands. I'm just keeping my head down, grinding out the fiat, and throwing a chunk of every paycheck at metals and bitcoin. Something's going to crack sooner or later.

And if nothing ever happens, then my kids will have some cool treasure chests to split between them after I'm gone. But I'm not gonna bet their lives on it.

>> No.56044062
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because no one is gonna give a fuck bout some ruthenium when you're trading your daughters pussy for a warm meal

>> No.56044068

>I'm saying that claiming the current system is desirable because it erases old debt is retarded
You have it completely backward. The conversation started with us stating erasing old debt (inflation) was undesirable and the main tool used to steal from the taxpayers since it's also erasing savings, thus devaluing all the work you've already done...

>> No.56044105

Who lends at sub inflation interest if they can help it?
Anon, I'm talking about loans.
I didn't say anyone here used that argument in this way (but I think someone might have). Anyway, I'm speaking generally. It happens quite often.

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Based scythian goldsmith appreciator.
To think this is a tiny comb only few centimeters long, and we have to zoom x50 to see all the details is just breathtaking. Aryan Chads were mogging everyone else even 5,000 years ago. I feel like a minuscule useless baby worm when i see this kind of craftmanship.

>> No.56044151

>Who lends at sub inflation interest if they can help it?
The banks. I think there is a misconception about what 'lending money' means to you and what it means to the banks.

>> No.56044157

Kinda this. Not that I don’t see the worth in having some of these rare metals, but gold and silver aren’t just valuable solely on account of rarity.

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yeah, I'm honestly ashamed for posting such a low res image

>> No.56044330

yeah but they wuz racist n shiet so stop admiring them

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I took the train last week for a short trip. Overheard some people talking on their phones. My favorite lines, from different convos:
> J'ai plus de credits.
> Il me faut 10000 de credits.
In other words, they're talking about debt, how much they have or need.
Anyway I don't know when the system crashes, but I'm basically ready now. I finished converting nearly all my savings to silver and gold. When the music stops playing, I won't be rushing to find a chair to sit on. I already own the fucking chair, and it's made of silver and gold.

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My French sucks. What does it mean? I have many credits?

>> No.56044554
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> J'ai plus de credits.
It's bad form, but common speech. It's shorthand for "Je n'ai plus de credits." which simply means "I'm out of credits.", .i.e. they maxxed out all their credit lines.

> Il me faut 10000 de credits.
"I need 10,000 euros of credit" (to pay for something)

>> No.56044565

Those fucking clowns. I used to work at a gas station. Many such cases.
>person comes up to buy smokes
>card declined
>start rifling through a collection of credit cards trying to find one with $5 on it to buy the smokes you don’t really need

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It's like normoids are trying their best to remain slaves lol... I don't know if i should hate them or pity them.
And when the fuck did it become normal to take loans for literally anything? Beside for a home mortgage or a new business, loans were supposed to be the option of last resort. Like paying the cancer treatment for your wife..
Now it seems every normie do it to buy funkopops or go to a fancy restaurant they can't afford..

It remind me of the writings of a roman historian. I don't remember word for word but basically he explains how corruption trickle down from the top to the bottom. If your government and elites are corrupt and degenerates who abandon ethics and morals, it will eventually influence the plebs, who will mimic them. And when you reach this phase, your civilization is bound to collapse soon.
And i can't think of anybody more indebt, spending more frivolously, and for the most retarded shit money it doesn't have than our government.
I guess it took it's tool on the plebeians.
>If sky daddy government do it, then i probably should do it too!

Only the ppl with morals and a strong will are GMI. /pmg/ shelter many frens of this kind, and i'm glad to be part of one of the last bastion of common sense in this retarded clown-monde.

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Every time I'm feeling a lil degenerate I just give my favorite lady a rub and remember that we used to be a country with ideals to balance out our hedonist appetites. That no longer appears to be the case.

>> No.56044894

>and bitcoin
oh sweetie

>> No.56044914

It seems everyone has forgotten the Matrix.


>> No.56044927

Big Thursday dip tomorrow frens, I can feel it. It's been too long since my last order

>> No.56044937
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If you buy them raw - no shape or stamp or assay - you'll have a hard time unloading them: you're not a retail dealer of good repute.
Most elements are of academic interest, and getting an gram, ounce, or pound of whatever that won't break your wallet can be personally fulfilling, or interesting and fun conversation pieces.

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It's a digital world, and you're on a crypto board, sweaty.

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when the power goes out, i can still trade my metals, whereas your usb wallet will be totally useless, and your physical wallets are just words on paper

>> No.56045030
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Section 706(d) of the Communications Act gives the president the power to shut down key computer systems if a national emergency. The law is from a 1942 leftover from WW2.

>> No.56045116

Hm. That article is a dozen years old.
Any ideas what may have happened regarding that law since?

>> No.56045151
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>Hm. That article is a dozen years old.
And that law is half a century old. It's fair to say it hasn't gone anywhere, and by reading the article it is obvious that a law in a grey area is the perfect type of law tyrannical politicians love to have on standby. This is why you diversify out of the system with precious metals because of the uncertainty. There is no other asset that has the option of zero counter party risk.

>> No.56045158

never sell, dont lose
still waiting for two more weeks
batbois forever

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>> No.56045227

>And that law is half a century old
Given. But the article draws attention to the law, as if something needs to be done.
Never mind. I'll look it up myself.

>> No.56045259

So there is apparently no practical 'kill switch'.



"The Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act of 2010 expired at the end of the 2009–2010 Congress without receiving a vote from either chamber."

"There are several issues that may prevent a system to be established in the United States. The Telecommunications Act of 1996 deregulated the telecommunications market and allowed for the growth of data carrier services. Since the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) does not require registration of a company as an Internet service provider (ISP), there are only estimates available based on publicly available data. The FCC estimated in April 2011 that there were over 7,800 ISPs[17] operating in the United States. This makes implementation of a kill switch that much more difficult: each company would have to voluntarily comply. There is no law that gives the United States authority over an ISP without a court order."

"A court order is not necessarily the solution either. Even if an ISP is forced by court order, the attack may have already taken place and the prophylactic methods too late in implementing. There are thousands of ISPs and since they do not have to register, there is no known way of contacting them in time and forcing the ISP to comply."

>> No.56045335

>each company would have to voluntarily comply
but what makes you think they havent already done so? TLAs have been in bed with the telcoms for a long time, and not just them but the hardware manufactures as well. There would be no need for a court order if they could just do without it and claim ignorance after the fact or just cover it up all together.

>> No.56045337

But as I pointed out, this 1942 law makes it a grey area and while it wouldn't shut down the internet (because the internet is just a series of connections), it will cripple systems like crypto currency by labeling them as terrorist tools by the state. The ultimate goal is to send decentralized crypto currency into the black market so the state can promote its CBDC as 99% of the population would rather trade in the white market rather than the black market. That's just the reality of the human species and the states around the world know it.

>> No.56045389
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Has anyone gotten a VAM peace/morgan shopping ont he big bullion online shops? I have no idea where to get un-checked peace or morgans to look for VAMs, not really looking for a big payout just some fun, but if they really pick those clean there is no point.

>> No.56045403
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Do you mean blem Peace/Morgan's? Because those are on eBay

>> No.56045418

Would you recommend stacking gold ducats over something more modern like the maple, phil, and perth. Used to stack half sovs but I can't anymore.

>> No.56045431

Stack recognizable gold unless you're a richfag who can stack gold as a hobby.

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>but what makes you think they havent already done so?
Every provider? C'mon... pic related.

>this 1942 law makes it a grey area
I understood. And in 2010 there was an attempt to clarify this grey area, and it seems it has become so decentralized and administratively so chaotic that it basically didn't matter: there's no practical way they can accomplish a shutdown because the Internet in the west has no central hub that they control. the 1942 law has been rendered moot through sheer variety of communication options. For instance Ma Bell was broken up in 1983, so that destroyed the central control of telephony.

>> No.56045482

Oh shoot - I didn't mention crypto though. Sorry.
I don't know enough about crypto to talk intelligently about its nuances, but as far as I can tell, it's already decentralized and out of any gov't control. Kind of why it was made to begin with.

>> No.56045532

Absolutely it's out of government control, but my point is that if the government decides that it can't control decentralized crypto, then it will pass laws to make trade in it illegal, pushing it into the realm of the black market. That way, government CBDC will have a monopoly over commerce in the white market, which 99% of the population and businesses will flock to. Do you see what I mean?

>> No.56045879

Nice stack, I've bought from JM Bullion, APMEX, SD Bullion and recently Monument Metals for the generic rounds at spot.

>> No.56046300

Yes, but they can sanitize it at their leisure, at least the clear web.

>> No.56046338

it probably serves as a symbolic representation first and foremost, like I still got some 2€ coins from 06's WC with a unique design, though i could use them like every other coin

>> No.56046369

they already addressed that
>On one side of the banknote are the flags of the five BRICS countries, on the other — the symbols of the countries that are to enter the bloc.

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You want to know what else starts with the letter S and is about to take you way off spot? SCORCH COIN. It's got everything you'll ever need; low fees, instant transfer times, and the best community ever. Invest in Scorch, and watch your spot blow past Jupiter, baby

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Any recent updates on crusaders?

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Silver spot still getting smooshed down

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@ all cryptoids, lol. Lmao, even.

>> No.56047118

Got a little paranoid and inspected my Peace Dollar, apparently 1928 is a pretty rare year for circulation. Anyway, if it’s a forgery, it seems to be a good one. It dings right, and the details seem to be correct.

>> No.56047190
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You should always carry a counterfeit coin so you have something to fling at the poors.

>> No.56047228
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If the Romans didn't stack it, I don't want it.

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want to do this to the mail carrier

>> No.56047331

why would you think the federal government would at all be interested reducing its own power?because somebody wrote an article about an ancient law? lolno, the government will simply pretend to forget the law exists while the media calls it a conspiracy theory, until the time comes to abuse it, then they will say it's for your own good and you're a traitor if you are opposed.

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Krugerrands are a good compromise between old and new. You can easily buy ones minted in the 70's and the premiums are low.

>the Internet in the west has no central hub that they control
There is no single central hub, but they control all the main routers of every backbone. If they really want to shut down the Internet, they can.

>> No.56047808

Well, and as evidenced by the fact that the government and social media sites colluded to suppress speech, the government can just go to private businesses (for example ISPs) and compel them to SHUT IT DOWN.

>> No.56047833

Delayed until the next actual crusades happen

>> No.56047890

shutting down the internet is as easy as telling amazon to shutdown all their AWS servers. that's how much your "decentralized internet" is reliant on a single entity these days. and this includes crypto, especially eth.

>> No.56047901

Ducats are pretty nice. If you like the fractionanity, go for it. Not sure why anyone would think they're not well known.

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anyone here with nimble fingers?

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Don't buy Liberty Safes


>> No.56047994
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wew, long time since i've last seen this pic posted on the chans! You're making me nostalgic fren..

>> No.56048030

QRD? Is this some SCP-GBTQIA+ thing?

>> No.56048036

imagine how retarded you have to be to buy a safe with an internet connection kek

>> No.56048044
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Bros, planning to sell all my gold to buy some land. I'm completely retarded. Pls, talk me out of it.

>> No.56048052

KEK what?

>Whether you have a home or gun safe, the SafElert is compatible with any safe model. It easily connects to your Wi-Fi network and operates via the Liberty app on iOS and Android platforms. With a simple setup process, safeguarding your assets has never been easier or more convenient.




>> No.56048053
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Yotsuba stacks pizzas!

Here's some DOS shareware nostalgia.

>> No.56048072

Oh boy…

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>buy some land
solid plan. hard to go wrong with this.

>> No.56048284
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Couple days back, I was planning to buy me some nice gold bar. I'll have to pause my purchases for now.

>> No.56048297

unlike gold, land is not a fungible good.
so it depends entirely on what land it is

>> No.56048325

As someone who was a landowner, the usefulness of the land is a big deal. Yes, all land goes up in value, but the liquidity ranges from okay, to awful. Of course, the liquidity is irrelevant if the land actually serves a practical purpose to you.

>> No.56048377

>they control all the main routers of every backbone
Wouldn't that be country-specific, though? I mean, does say the US have such control over backbones everywhere else? I thought IP packets were designed to get around gaps. So 'bad actor' countries who don't want to cooperate could still keep theirs up?

>> No.56048388

Its in a nice residential area and I know almost all the people in that compound. I feel like I'm getting a good deal.

>> No.56048393

i dunno mate kek

>> No.56048409

Gated community.

>> No.56048504

I've been looking into buying some more land too.
When my parents were young, there was all kind of land available in big quantities for what compared to today were dirt cheap prices, on what is now considered prime land (forested land, mountain forest land. mountain views, water views, clean views, no trash, privacy, seclusion, clean fresh air, etc,)
All that land is all owned now. and only occasionally a small piece comes up for sale at astronomical prices.
so if i see a piece of land available near me for a reasonable price that is affordable to me today. i am very tempted to buy all i can.
land is the only thing they are not making any more of.

>> No.56048506

I've liked architecture and musical instruments since I was young.
Philharmonic has both but are there any other coins/rounds/bars with one or both on display?
I'd like to compare options.

>> No.56048525

But selling all my gold hurts a little.

>> No.56048570

Holy nope. Don’t get involved with anything that has a HOA.

>> No.56048609

Depends on the land, its uses, location, and price.
Duh. Lots of missing info.

>> No.56048610

well sounds like u made up ur mind already and are just fishing for 'atta boys' so go ahead

>> No.56048647
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yeah tough choices

>> No.56048665
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>So 'bad actor' countries who don't want to cooperate could still keep theirs up?
I guess it depends on where they connect to. If all their traffic is routed through pozzed places like Germany, Netherlands, etc. they're at the mercy of those globohomo governments. Most of western Europe is fucked. Maybe the eastern countries have more options.
Of course there's other options like satellite and HAM radio, but you need to already have the gear. I have no experience with using these for networking, but from what I heard, HAM is very slow for data, like 9600 baud or something. Good luck doing crypto blockchain stuff on that.

>> No.56048725

solar is a passing fad that is only propped up by corrupt government subsidies. nuclear is the future.

>> No.56048760

Danke anon. I'll keep you guys posted.

>> No.56048862
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>he doesn't know about (((PTECH)))
oh boy, oooh boy...
Remember the PROMIS software? The PTECH software was it's heir, but on giga-steroid. Imagine if a single intelligent software from a "private company" was used by all government's organizations (they had the highest clearance level for the CIA + NSA + DoD + FBI + NRO + white house + DARPA + NORAD +..) and had a backdoor with the ability to download, delete, filter, modify all sensitive files in their databases.
And that all these infos were gathered and churned by a prediction machine.
This was the centralizing index for the (((deep state))). Giving the ability to few people to anonymously control every branch of the US government just sitting behind a computer.
If you want to understand how the deepstate operate in the internet era, and how incredibly centralized it truly is, Ptech is one of the most important key. And it was back in 2001.

Here, from a JPMorgan whistleblower :

>> No.56048903

No, I don’t know what PROMIS is.

>> No.56049050

nuclear should be the future, but (((somebody))) won't allow it

>> No.56049084


>> No.56049108

i think there's a decent chance that changes in the future

>> No.56049243

use a safe as a decoy only. hide your PMs elsewhere

>> No.56049258

Whatever you do, don't get the Liberty Safes


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>> No.56049594
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Silver spot is really getting smooshed down
are we headed for below $20/oz before they're finished?

>> No.56049643

doubt it
I'll buy the dip at $21 if we get there

>> No.56049664

>Catholicism, Hundism, Orthodoxy, Voodoo, and State Atheism all represented

>> No.56049692

I have a little $30 fireproof strongbox from Walmart.

>> No.56049695
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Depends how much silver Blackrock wants to slurp. They are crashing silver to buy physical on the cheap from PSLV to replenish their own vaults.
Isn't it interesting the biggest holder of PSLV shares is the issuer of SLV btw? :3

>> No.56049719

i hope it does

>> No.56049752

I boughted a half ounce today.
Now my g/s ratio is 0.7 to about 210

>> No.56049762
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pic rel, to lazy for phone

>> No.56049801

is it ever worth it to buy fractionals? i just do 1oz only just because of the premiums

>> No.56049848

that really gets the ol' noggin joggin

>> No.56049849

even at 1/4oz the premium should be neglible. that or those LMU coins are the lowest you can go before it's not worth it

>> No.56049863

premiums don't just vanish into thin air you know
i like buying 1/4th oz AGEs, and yeah they have a premium. but I'll get em right back if I choose to sell.
That said, I wouldn't buy just any fractional. Like random 5g bars wouldn't be a good idea.

>> No.56049949

That depends where you get it. I got a 1/2 eagle from my LCS at spot.

>> No.56049958
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this is why i hate the anti-christ.
if PSLVs getting bought up, id expect the stock price to go up. but no, its staying tamped down too.
my PSLV stonks are turning out to be not so great

>> No.56050012

Waiting for them to issue gold BRICS

>> No.56050141

everything electronic is a meme
simple as
buy that physical

>> No.56050277

If it goes below 22 I'll start buying. I'll try and get 100 more ozes.

>> No.56050489

liar, liar. pants on fire!

>> No.56050571
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>is it ever worth it to buy fractionals?
Depends on your budget, which fractional, and ultimately what the spot and premium are. LMU coins are very often sold for just a couple of percent above spot, and US gold coins are typically way above spot. For some coins, that premium will always remain. So either there's no premium when you sell, or you recoup it. Personally, I don't buy less than quarter ounce coins: the designs are simply too tiny to see on anything smaller. My favorite is the ounce, but I can't always afford that much at once. Sometimes I purchase a coin that has a higher premium on speculation it may increase in numismatic value, or I simply like the pattern too much to let it pass by. I bought a raw nugget because I wanted an example of what gold can look like right from nature.

>> No.56050621

yeah someday I'll buy a gold nugget too. those are very cool

>> No.56050658
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Do really none of the 1oz gold coins have serious anti counterfeit measure like the Maple Leaf or Britanna?

>> No.56050783

The gold Maple Leaf and Britannia have them.

>> No.56050944

How’s everyone today?

>> No.56050993

I'm doing good, honestly I have gold and silver sitting in a safe that I haven't touched in years, not worried about minor fluctuations, in fact I am mildly bearish on silver and gold in US dollar terms because I think the US will keep their rates higher for longer than the rest of the world will be able to. If we see the EU begin cutting rates before the US then I bet silver and gold get smashed as the US dollar pumps, additionally there is a potential world recession coming that will lower demand for industrial silver.

That's my thesis at least and I could be wrong, of course I also think the US will eventually also cave and start cutting rates eventually and that's when we really see silver and gold run.

>> No.56051044

>random 5g bars wouldn't be a good idea

I like 5g bars but you're right.

>> No.56051068
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I feel like I should buy an cheapies.

>> No.56051072
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Obvious FUD is obvious.

>> No.56051075

Gold coins are inherently very difficult to counterfeit due to gold's God-given physical uniqueness. Security features on gold coins are to help normies feel good.

>> No.56051090

>Security features on gold coins are to help normies feel good.
I want them to feel good when I buy their house for an ounce of gold.

>> No.56051167
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> he thinks normies will own anything
Bank is going to take all those houses that were bought on credit. You will only be able to buy from people who are savvy.

>> No.56051172

Well, some Boomers that bought 30 years ago too, but good point.

>> No.56051324

Every opinion i don't share is FUD.

>> No.56051371

I agree with the higher confidence in gold vs. silver. I bought the silver dip a few years back. Is there a good way to exchange silver for gold without losing too big a margin?

>> No.56051391
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just two more weeks and the COMEX will drained

>> No.56051531
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better now that i see mr pento is on again tonight

>> No.56051582
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silver version

>> No.56051598
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>no one should be 100% out of fiat
Dude, you're retard.

>> No.56051827
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I haven't been here in two or three so weeks, anything cool happen while I was gone?

>> No.56051899

Silver is a terrible investment, gold beats it in every way. I own 500oz of silver and will look to sell it when we pump again

>> No.56051968

it isn't too late to go all in with amc anon

>> No.56051991

>Silver is a terrible investment
Better stock up on LINK then dipshit. Links colors are blue and white and designed to take your money. I won't spoon feed you anymore than that...

>> No.56052034

Not much really happens here anymore,the tranny and iqdelet bot haven't been here for a month and most anons here probably left after the mass ban the jannies pulled ,even mentioning jews will get you banned,honestly there not much here anymore but reposts of others stack and the same pics,only really come here because I'm bored and this place is the only place thats genuine and wants other anons to make it

>> No.56052055

Want to buy the 500oz at spot? Buy my bags if you have so much faith in silver

>> No.56052059

Show stack. I think you are a fraud.

>> No.56052074

I thought they've been hoarding? Added 1 million ounces last month or did I read that report wrong?

>> No.56052115

>buy the 500oz at spot
Yes I do. Post pic with timestamp and provide email nao! But we both know that you won't.

>> No.56052130
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Throw it up on r/pmsforsale and I'll bite.

>> No.56052148
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Why would anyone here go there unless you're a genuine søyboy? Seriously, why?

>> No.56052168

Post a picture of yourself

You won't so tell me your height/weight instead

>> No.56052219

>moving the goalposts this much
OK, post stack with a spoon windmill and I'll post a pic of myself (full height) with no shirt on but I'll have a ski mask on. Deal?

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>> No.56052261
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Not him, but here ya go

>> No.56052280

What's your plan for silver? Mirin your gold stack, I'm only at 10oz :(

>> No.56052310
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Because I can get junk for 18x when my LCS is at 20x and online dealers want 22x.

>> No.56052317
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>Not him
Then fuck off all you get is a moonman goon mask and a middle finger.

>> No.56052322

>“At first I thought it was chocolate coins or Captain Sabertooth coins,” said Erlend Bore, 51, referring to a fictional Norwegian pirate. “It was totally unreal.”
always love a good PM story

>> No.56052357

lucky guy. hopefully the government compensates him well for it

>> No.56052363

Idk I started with silver, but got bit hard by the gold bug. I was buying silver pre coof-19 when it was much more reasonable. I think I have 18ish ozs of gold, when I get to 20, I might lean back into silver. I'll probably buy an eagle in the next week or two. Then maybe a buff as an Xmas gift for myself. Hopefully.

>> No.56052372
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Get a safe made of STEEL that has a mechanical combination lock ONLY. Law enforcement can confiscate keys and ANY LOCK CAN BE PICKED. Brute forcing a good combination lock takes days even with specialized equipment. Also bolt it to the floor, that's mandatory. It's important to understand that the purpose of a safe is to buy you time during a robbery and force a robber to make noise and possibly trigger alarms. If a robber can get in and out with your stuff quietly, that's no good. Any safe can be broken into eventually, but if the robber has to wake you up from a dead sleep with their power tools, you can interrupt him with your shotgun or if you have an alarm, your fat cunt police can show up at their leisure and arrest the robber after they shoot your dog.
>Combination lock
>Bolt to floor
Expect to pay about $500 for a decent safe, which is nothing if you're stashing $20k to $40k worth of valuables. Picture related is able to be insured for $20k.

say sike right now

>Buy something inconspicuous
>like a sarcophagus

>> No.56052395
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>hopefully the government compensates him well for it

hopefully he kept a few for his family as heirlooms

>> No.56052422

The most reliable safe is one that requires you to unhinge multiple doors in order to deposit it into the deepest room in your house. Force them to confiscate the entire thing or risk burning down your house by cutting it open in place. But it's still not going to slow them down much if they're determined to nail you to the wall. A safe is really only meant as an inconvenience to your average basketball-american. The feds won't care.

>> No.56052451

>he doesn't have his house wired with a small fission bomb in case of a breach
Nukes are way more common in civilian hands than the feds think. You just need 6 feet of lead to not trip off their satellite ddetectors. Why do you think no one fucks with the Amish?

>> No.56052538
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not much happening here. waiting for the dip.
trying to decide if should buy more metal or should buy more land.

>> No.56052551

That's what I said:
>the purpose of a safe is to buy you time
>if the robber has to wake you up from a dead sleep with their power tools, you can interrupt him with your shotgun

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>> No.56053705

Sweeet pile

>> No.56053791

>Every provider?
yes. Just like every chip manufacturer

>> No.56054395
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I've never seen this though

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>> No.56054685

bjmp to the end

>> No.56055567

Oh hell yeah, I just copped some Scorch and this is gonna be my new favorite token, hands down. I got in really early and I think I'm gonna make a lot of money here, just like the chads that did big with Doge and Safemoon.
Scorch Coin is the ticket to wealth, just trust me and you'll be able to relate soon enough