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[Anonymous No.56020225]

what would you do if you were a mediocre programmer who can't find a tech job in this market?

[Anonymous No.56020233]

>>56020225
Go work for Pepsico

[Anonymous No.56020238]

>>56020225

unironically buy a wig pretend to transition

[Anonymous No.56020263]

>>56020225
continue to sharpen my skillsets and apply for jobs

[Anonymous No.56020297]

>>56020225
Fellow mediocre programmer here, been working at one mid-tier tech company for 8 years because I'm dogshit at interviewing and lucked into my current position. If I lost my job tomorrow I would try to find a job at another smaller or mid sized company, maybe at a company that's not directly tech (I've heard of programmers working at random places like home depot as software devs, so companies like that).
The dream would be finding a remote job or contract work and move to a 3rd world country so I can save as much as possible.
I'd probably live off my savings for the first year and try to get my own company off the ground though, I already do gamedev in my spare time but feels like I never have enough time to get anything decent off the ground.

[Anonymous No.56020304]

>>56020225
Jump into the ocean

[Anonymous No.56020393]

>>56020225
What do the arrows mean? Am I suppose to move into the Pacific Ocean because I can’t afford to rent in San Francisco anymore?

[Anonymous No.56020405]

>>56020225
Look, totally honest, I've been grinding leetcode, learning Rust, reading books about Kafka, System Design, cracking the coding interview, elements of programming interviews etc.

And the thing is that the job market is shit right now. Mediocre programmers like me can't get good jobs now. We need to get whatever job we can at the moment, continue improving our skills, and then in 1-2 years, we can try jump into a better job.

I was trying to switch from trading to big tech and it has been an absolute flop so far. Been without a job since November last year.

[Anonymous No.56020406]

>>56020225
>>56020297
Consider KYS, because programming isn't for mediocre/low IQ people, besides pajeets, you're one of those faggots who shitup the codebase and waste HR and other more qualified applicants time when interviewing.

[Anonymous No.56020408]

>>56020405
>learning Rust

[Anonymous No.56020409]

>>56020406
You know what? I prefer programmers that know their limits and are willing to learn rather than programmers that think that are elite, and create unmaintainable code that's over complicated, slow and error prone.

I worked with a lot of "elite coders" that was impossible to work with.

[Anonymous No.56020416]

>>56020408
It's a good language, I really like it. You need to understand the concepts of ownership, mut/inmut references, traits, etc. Once you master them it's like a better version of C++ without all of the compatibility stuff and weird shit.

I really think Rust will continue growing, it has been adopted in the Linux kernel and Microsoft is rewriting parts of the Windows kernel in Rust.

[Anonymous No.56020424]

>>56020225
take a government job

[Anonymous No.56020598]

>>56020405
sounds bleak but probably the most realistic plan

[Anonymous No.56020609]

>>56020424
chance of remote: 0

[Anonymous No.56020610]

>>56020424
actually i take that back. they'll put you on the troon out fast track. you'll be a beautiful girl in no time at all

[Anonymous No.56020615]

>>56020405
> learning Rust, reading books about Kafka, System Design
JFL, I've been learning unemployeable skills, why can't I get hired?
i have been there too, learned GO.

GO and RUST are unemployable go is barely employable but RUST is non existent. it's just exist in YOUTUBE influancer space. do not learn from what youtube is telling you to learn, go look for the 100 top position u want to work for near you and learn what they need

probably php, python and Js

[Anonymous No.56020661]

>>56020615
My main languages are Python and C#.
Rust is a plus, really learning it out of curiosity as we used it in my previous job.

[Anonymous No.56020714]

>>56020225
Unironically move. Or keep grinding leetcode subsisting on dumpster scraps and living 5 to a 1 bedroom apartment with randos (who are very likely to be poojeets, fob chinks, gays or trannies) barely making ends meet, all for that chance at a FAANG job where you'll get pip'ed within the first year before your stocks vest.

[Anonymous No.56020728]

>>56020405
how tf you get into trading in the first place if you can't even get into big tech

[Anonymous No.56020739]

>>56020714
It's funny that I can make more money by investing in FAANG rather than working for them lmao

Only if I had a few millions to gamble, I wouldn't need to work

[Anonymous No.56020748]

>>56020728
Getting into a trading firm as a software engineer is not hard.
Interview process is like 1 coding screen + final interview.
Nothing fancy.

[Anonymous No.56020753]

>>56020225
go back to india

[Anonymous No.56020786]

>>56020748
regardless, seems like a huge step backwards in salary, career progression, and network. your peers will mostly consist of jeets and arrogant, midwit techfags. you fell for the tech vs finance bait threads on wso

[Anonymous No.56020792]

>>56020786
My past colleagues were not pajeets.
But stuck with old tech and I don't really like trading.
But yes, pay can be very good.
You can get like 200k remote even.
Not fintech with crypto is hot again, I think I'll try that next.

[Anonymous No.56021505]

>>56020405

>> Rust

only twitter faggots use it

>> Kafka

only matters if you have real experience.

[Anonymous No.56021566]

>>56020406
>programming isn't for mediocre/low IQ people
kek. it's an extremely low IQ profession. your "great filter" is a college sophomore understanding of data structures and algorithms.

[Anonymous No.56021576]

>>56020225
Hello fellow bay aryan.

[Anonymous No.56021600]

>>56020297
I just forced by boomer company to give me full remote just havent left the shithole USA yet because I just got a new gf thats really fun so im crashing with her now…idk how to end this though i really want to leave
>>56020406
And youre one of those reddit faggots that unironically sees this as a hobby instead of purely as a vehicle to make money
I will keep writing shitty code for six figures and theres nothing you can do about it

[Anonymous No.56021746]

>>56020405
>grinding leetcode, learning Rust, reading books about Kafka, System Design, cracking the coding interview, elements of programming interviews etc
I'm not a dev but you sound like you paid too much attention to internet memes about programming lmao

[Anonymous No.56021794]

>>56020225
commit cybercrimes with monerochan

[Anonymous No.56022697]

>>56020225
How can I find a remote job in US as a yuropoor programmer ? All companies require a permission to work in the US. But why, since I don't want to relocate to the US ?

[Anonymous No.56022727]

>>56020406
>noo you have to end your life if you're not improving the company bottom line
fucking nerd

[Anonymous No.56022745]

>>56020225
Move somewhere cheaper with less competition you faggot

[Anonymous No.56022747]

>>56020406
>noo you have to end your life if you're not improving the company bottom line
fucking nerd. "wasting HR time" LMFAO you should be embarrassed for even having this thought. imagine valuing HR as anything more than an extreme net negative.

[Anonymous No.56022753]

>>56020225
Become a scripter and go into IT

[Anonymous No.56022776]

>>56022697
I see that there are some sites that allow you to remote work for US companies from Europe, but I'm not so sure about pay and work hours, etc.
If you want to live in USA, you need Visa sponsorship (H1B).
Right now seems hard.
You can try the green card lottery.

I would like to move to US, but as a yuropoor idk, not easy.
Pajeets literally have companies in US to smuggle pajeets into US.

[Anonymous No.56022807]

>>56020405
>And the thing is that the job market is shit right now. Mediocre programmers like me can't get good jobs now.
Anyone that says this is lazy and unskilled. Developer/Engineer unemployment is at an all time low - there are 1.4 dev jobs to every software developer. Our HR team had to start sourcing because we weren't getting any hits on open recs.

If you're an engineer and you aren't getting a job in 4 weeks - its because you don't have any usable skills (uh huh I know React) or you don't have any experience developing solutions for the vertical you're applying for (you did a bunch of front end development and you're applying for jobs in the financial sector or manufacturing that are backend focused).

>>56020406
This guy right here. Nothing I love more as a hiring manager then getting 150 applicants with almost no usable skills and no experience in the sector we're asking them to do.

[Anonymous No.56022853]

>>56022807
That's a problem created by hiring managers. They won't hire candidates who are skilled in another stack and capable of learning your stack. Candidates are shoehorned into one stack for their entire career and jobs go unfilled.

[Anonymous No.56022940]

>>56020225
Mediocre probably means junior. You should be applying for lower-level positions. Avoid fagman since they have ridiculous expectations for junior engineers due to how much they've inflated engineer pay. Look for a place that values mentorship.
>>56020405
I think you've exhausted the utility of those resources. At a certain point, the only way you can continue learning is by doing.
What you need to do is convince your interviewer that your first 3 months with the company will go smoothly. Remember that the entire point of a new hire is to get them to contribute to the company quickly. Junior hires will typically require training and mentorship to start making valuable contributions. Avoid giving off red flags and try to come off as cool, collected, and amicable.

[Anonymous No.56023485]

>>56020238
This. If you are below average male programmer, put on lipstick and wear a dress to your next interview. It's literally that easy. After getting the job you can always "detransition".

[Anonymous No.56023508]

>>56022807
This is some bullshit. The only tech jobs unable to hire are the ones paying way below average salary for the metro area or unwilling to consider remote work or both.

[Anonymous No.56023725]

>>56020225
You've got AGII at your mercy, this is the best dish for developers to make their lives easier

[Anonymous No.56023740]

>>56020225
literally just work for a small boomer company in the south, you'll save more and won't be paying top dollar to avoid living in an irl pvp zone

[Anonymous No.56023747]

>>56020304
That sounds like a smart choice. Instead of purchasing BTC at its peak, it would be wiser to buy it when the price dips and then explore opportunities like the SUPR airdrop. It is worth noting that SUPR is a native token of SuperDappAI, which is known for its distinctive ecosystem.

[Anonymous No.56023774]

>>56020304
Good to see AI token gain tractions, I'm all out for AGII. Can't wait to start enjoying fee discounts, special promotions, airdrops, and referral perks.

[Anonymous No.56023816]

>>56020739
Don't want to be misled and rekt, I'll patiently wait for AGII's governance participation and staking rewards. It's gonna melt faces anon.

[Anonymous No.56024477]

>>56020406
I'm a step or two above pajeets, they're the worst to work with. I have to break everything down into baby steps for them otherwise they throw their hands up and give up, and if I have to do that it's easier just to do it myself. That you're giving me shit for being mediocre while giving pajeets a pass shows you're a retard and you don't know what you're talking about. That you value HR's time at all is hilarious.
>>56021600
Based, I've been doing WFH occasionally but our CEO is completely against it, so everyone is being forced to come back to the office. I've already seen a few people fired because they refused to come back kek. It's retarded because all of our managers don't care, half of us work in other timezones as well so any collaboration is done via online meetings. Just a big waste of time coming back to the office but I'm pretty sure he just did some handshake deal to force everyone back to try to save commercial real estate since there's no logical reason for it besides something like that.
Having a new gf makes it difficult but if it doesn't work out remote working seems like the best way to build wealth for a wagie. Being able to save 90% of your income living in a low cost of living country seems amazing.

[Anonymous No.56024944]

>>56020225
Rob local stores daily and not go the jail for it and sell or use the product I stole. Shit is easy money.