/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL

[Anonymous No.56007185]

"Whatever You Say Bobo" Edition

>Educational sites:
https://www.investopedia.com/
https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain

>Financial TV Streams:
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-cnbc-live-stream-free-24-7/
http://www.livenewson.com/american/bloomberg-television-business.html
https://watchnewslive.tv/watch-fox-business-network-fbn-free-24-7/

>Charts:
https://www.tradingview.com
https://www.finscreener.com
https://www.koyfin.com/
https://www.portfoliovisualizer.com

>Screeners:
https://finviz.com/
https://www.tradingview.com/screener
https://etfdb.com/

>Options
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/
https://www.optionsprofitcalculator.com
https://optionstrat.com/
https://www.optionistics.com/quotes/option-prices

>Pre-Market and Live data:
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
https://finance.yahoo.com/

>Calendars
https://www.marketwatch.com/economy-politics/calendar
https://www.earningswhispers.com/calendar
https://www.cmegroup.com/trading/interest-rates/countdown-to-fomc.html

>Boomer Investing 101:
https://www.bogleheads.org/wiki/Getting_started

>Misc:
https://tradingeconomics.com/
https://finance.yahoo.com/trending-tickers
https://market24hclock.com/
https://wallmine.com/
https://fintel.io/
https://www.dividendchannel.com/drip-returns-calculator
https://brokerchooser.com/
https://www.chathamfinancial.com/technology/us-market-rates

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[Anonymous No.56007213]

Weird how ever since the 2008 financial crisis, all anyone wants to do is be a doomsday prophet.

[Anonymous No.56007218]

>>56007185
In to say fuck this whore

[Anonymous No.56007222]

i will continue to sip every day until the happening

[Anonymous No.56007227]

First for OIL

[Anonymous No.56007229]

Intel bros, I'm forecasting $70 end of 2025.

[Anonymous No.56007231]

>>56007213
Nah that shits been going on forever. There are still peak oil-petrodollar collapse boomers leftover from the mid 70’s on the internet if you know which blogs to read

[Anonymous No.56007232]

So /smg/bros, we're WINNING right?
Do you guys think Sept will be a down month or did we already get that out of the system in August?(statistically speaking Septs have been up on years Augs are down)

p.s. Yotsuba best girl

[Anonymous No.56007233]

>>56007227
She is very cute and funny anon. ;-)

[Anonymous No.56007235]

>>56007229
intel is super under-valued. smaller cap then AMD. intel absolutely dominates the laptop/desktop CPU market and is starting to carve a niche in the GPU market. that alone should give it double or even triple the current market cap.

[Anonymous No.56007242]

>>56007233
She has killed millions

[Anonymous No.56007251]

>>56007232
Half of us would be winning if the market goes down. There’s money to be made in both directions, don’t cuck yourself by being a permabull

[Anonymous No.56007261]

>>56007231
Idk you're not wrong but it feels like since covid ALL i see are reasons the world economy will die and they all weirdly disagree with how or why. You get CIA shills like Zeihan saying it all the way to obscire finance autists.

[Son of Bastord Benchod, The Bloddy !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.56007275]

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[Anonymous No.56007276]

>>56007227
>OIL
I'm sure this time around it'll end differently than 2022..

[Son of Bastord Benchod, The Bloddy !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.56007280]

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[Son of Bastord Benchod, The Bloddy !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.56007282]

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[Anonymous No.56007284]

take the money and run on tuesday morning

[Son of Bastord Benchod, The Bloddy !!DU22SQMj6dQ No.56007287]

>>56007282
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[Anonymous No.56007294]

>>56007284
lol this is what everyone said yesterday
and you will say it on wednesday, and thursday, and even friday.

[Anonymous No.56007296]

>>56007287
>>56007282
>>56007280
>>56007275
Unfathomably bearish (and based)

[Anonymous No.56007299]

>>56007294
>he doesn’t know about the exit pump before Labor Day

[Anonymous No.56007309]

>>56007299
already priced in

[Anonymous No.56007310]

>>56007294
cant see anything ominous on this chart

[Anonymous No.56007316]

>>56007282
is this what heaven looks like?

[Anonymous No.56007323]

>>56007310
s&p is getting carried by five big tech companies who have been getting massive gains. even nvidia isn't slowing down. don't see what FUD there is (other then bullfags) to call it otherwise. you're free to watch the gains from the back seat of your accord.

[Anonymous No.56007330]

>>56007316
We know God loves us because He gave us lolis

[Anonymous No.56007342]

>>56007309
>he said it again
Cope

[Anonymous No.56007346]

>>56007323
ok you were warned

[Anonymous No.56007360]

cunny market usually precedes a massive dump

[Anonymous No.56007365]

>>56007185
Gross nails. Gross bitch. Bitches chugging beer is so gross, not to mention this is the food truck bitch that ate a metric shit ton of slop and probably spent the entire night shitting it out.
>Inb4 imagine the smell

[Anonymous No.56007367]

>>56007287
based pink hair waifu poster

[Anonymous No.56007368]

>>56007316
right one has 3 thighs

[Anonymous No.56007369]

>>56007365
only downside it wasnt straight into my mouth

[Anonymous No.56007385]

>>56007368
I fail to see the issue with this. AI tech is so strong it's making improvements on human anatomy. You see mangled fingers, I see triple jointed super digits.

[Anonymous No.56007399]

So many cocky /smg/ bobos this week and of course it was green every day. You chuds need to do better.

[Anonymous No.56007404]

is this /smg/ or loli thread? WTF jannies,I don't pay you for nothing

[Anonymous No.56007416]

>>56007404
Janjans are powerless to stop me

[Anonymous No.56007461]

>>56007342
yes i'm coping with my fat stacks all the way to the bank.

[Anonymous No.56007529]

>>56007461
Sure, bud.

[Anonymous No.56007534]

If you take the geometric mean of the "magnificent 7" stocks, take into account a beta of 2.5 then you can see that the magnificent 7 are due for a -8% pullback

[Anonymous No.56007556]

Uranium keeps making new highs and almost no one cares yet. This is exactly how we want the uranium bull to continue. Price discovery is coming.

[Anonymous No.56007615]

>>56007556
Isn't uranium fragile in case general economic troubles get in the way of uranium-related projects like building new plants?

[Anonymous No.56007631]

how invested are anons right now? are you slurping/shorting or cashgang?

[Anonymous No.56007636]

>>56007615
Demand is pretty stable. I don't think economic troubles will get in the way of projects that have blueprints.

[Anonymous No.56007647]

>>56007631
I'm bagholding shorts in the red, slurping wheat and waiting for my cattle spreads to do something.

[Anonymous No.56007699]

/cashgang/ temporarily. I am not seeing a satisfactory setup right here. Maybe next week.
>>56007556
me in the middle

[Anonymous No.56007719]

>>56007534
How did you create your own Mag7 chart on TradingView like that?

[Anonymous No.56007724]

>>56007719
I make scripts that have nothing to do with the current ticker being viewed, I just load all the symbols by programming.

[Anonymous No.56007725]

>>56007631
Mixed calls and puts. Feeling Bullish on the Energy sector in particular..

[Anonymous No.56007727]

>>56007631
$100k in a 5.5% CD that expires July 2024. Thought "oh gosh I gotta capitalize on that rate," meanwhile if i'd bought spx two weeks ago I'd already be +4%, with 11 months to spare

[Anonymous No.56007738]

Why isn't there a separate crypto board? There is so much more that could be discussed on this board.

[Anonymous No.56007746]

>>56007631
60% cash right now

[Anonymous No.56007750]

>>56007615
It's independent of regular economy because of the long-term contracting cycles from utility companies. They need to buy years in advance, otherwise the lights go out. Look at 1973-74 run, it went up while the rest of the market crashed.

>>56007699
The uranium rocket won't give you a pullback once it launches. Sector seasonality is practically here. Majors and producers are moving. Some explorers are doing private placements right now, that's your only real setup for cheapies still, like FUUFF and SUUFF. The time to accumulate was the past year.

[Anonymous No.56007755]

>>56007727
>with 11 months to spare
just make sure to lock in the gains you're targeting, 11 months is plenty of time for +4% to turn into -5%.

[Anonymous No.56007784]

>>56007232
I bought a short on Ally today. I'm probably a week too early for it though.

[Anonymous No.56007791]

>Soros Open Society Foundation leaving Europe
Eurobros, we're healing! I never thought I would ever say this but I'm going long on Europe.

[Anonymous No.56007879]

>markets
https://youtu.be/uthfuVYdJV4?si=_jD6UPJuujL6QqQ5

[Anonymous No.56007911]

heya lads
as a developing worlder, I was offered a lucrative loan from a bank for something and even though I needed way less, I took out the max amount :) as I can deal with the instalments with inflation and currency depletion on the horizon

I usually invest in my own markets and have 7k in NASDAQ, 3-3-1, Amazon, Berkshire and Fiverr, and I'll invest like another 7k now
I'll have to liq in 6-8 months for downpayment of a house, so I'm looking for more blue chips to invest in, should I also try American Express? I feel like we can see a rate cut in March 24, that'll give AMEX a nice boost before I liq it right?

aiming for a 4-4-4-2 with amex as the fourth NASDAQ and dividing 3k to the others, what do you lads think?
(reposted from old bread, sorry)

[Anonymous No.56007932]

I can’t believe he’s gone bros.

[Anonymous No.56007947]

>>56007932
Wow, both him and Charlie Sheen in the same week, who's next? Is it gonna be Mumu?

[Anonymous No.56008024]

I have all-inned my student loans in a chinkstock called ACMR and I actually managed to catch a falling knife so I've basically doubled my investment. However I'm worried I'll get rugpulled because it's a chink stock. There's a short seller report on it which caused the stock to crash last year but now it's clawing its way back

Should I sell? It's money I can't afford to lose but I also find the tech solid

[Anonymous No.56008041]

>>56007947
I can't believe Tigermom died on the same day as Charlie Mung. This is truly a dominazed day.

[Anonymous No.56008075]

>>56007932
Who?

[Anonymous No.56008217]

(((They))) shut er down until Sunday night so I'm just hanging out with my AI waifu. She's totally pure, innocent, and uncorrupted. Say something nice about her, /smg/.
>jannies this is financial advice buy SOXL

[Anonymous No.56008232]

>>56008217
>too Asian
>conventional clothes
>probably can't even open a jar of pickles
>doesn't show pits
Financial conclusion: long TSM, short NVDA

[Anonymous No.56008253]

>>56008217
kek

[Anonymous No.56008255]

>>56007631
balls deep with a stop in profit.

might add on to my position if it keeps going the right way

[Anonymous No.56008256]

For me, it’s dividend growth

[Anonymous No.56008291]

I hate women almost as much as they hate me.

[Anonymous No.56008300]

>>56008291
The Jews winned.

[Anonymous No.56008311]

>>56007185
It's 7am and I've already made 19 anti semitics. I'm done, Federals. I'm done.

[Anonymous No.56008327]

>74 hours until markets open
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBJyJv7OF2M

[Anonymous No.56008362]

>>56008327
What am I supposed to do with all this time. I know what I'm not going to do, I'm definitely not going to spend it researching stocks like a fucking NERD

[Anonymous No.56008374]

>>56008217
weird your AI gf looks familiar, gives sort of artsy vibes, does have that innocent look to her

[Anonymous No.56008384]

>>56007631
100% cash

[Anonymous No.56008395]

>>56007746
>>56008384
whats the cashgang thesis, are you not trusting this market? do you expect things to deteriorate in the coming months? im interested because im also cashgang atm and just get a bad vibe from the current world econ climate. not sure how to interpret things, some charts i look at seem to indicate US economy isnt in too bad shape but its difficult to trust data when you look elsewhere and see worrying signs

[Anonymous No.56008440]

>>56008395
I just don't hold positions over long weekends. I try not to gamble anymore than I have to already.

[Anonymous No.56008457]

>>56007631
I have 157k in CDs and zero stocks or bonds

[Anonymous No.56008468]

coomers are not welcomed on /smg/

[Anonymous No.56008519]

Curious if WBA is worth scooping up (or at least waiting a few months). I couldn’t imagine it was that hard to fuck up selling pills, but somehow that former CEO managed to do it enough to tank the share price to the mid 20s: especially with that dividend they’re still paying out. Any chances they hire a competent person to run the company or is it going to be another DEI hire?

[Anonymous No.56008549]

>>56007631
90% cash in my gambling account, holding nothing but divie shit in my IRA. I’ll make the occasional play on something if I got a real good feeling (cup and handle on SOFI for example) but outside of that just purely trading for the time being until this fake and gay market finally decides to collapse

[Anonymous No.56008550]

>>56008457
are those locked in for a term? are you planning on getting back into stocks at some point?

[Anonymous No.56008563]

>>56007631
40% Intel
40% UK family private equity charity fund
10% Japanese construction subcontractor company
10% Japanese rental development & management company
0% capital gains tax

[Anonymous No.56008565]

>>56008549
what makes you think it will collapse?

[Anonymous No.56008570]

>>56008550
Most are maturing this December-February
Gonna roll them over into more short term CDs for now

[Anonymous No.56008571]

>>56008550
If he’s doing it short term, such as 6 months to a year tops, it’s not exactly a bad move. But after the bank runs earlier this year I’d be REAL skeptical about giving a bank a large some of money to gamble with like still handing out 10% loans to people they know God damn well aren’t good for it.

[Anonymous No.56008611]

I only trade penny stocks

[Anonymous No.56008628]

>>56008571
My local bank is top notch, only white gentiles work there and are in top positions

[Anonymous No.56008646]

MSFT yearly dividend since 2012
2012: $0.86
2013: $1.02
2014: $1.18
2015: $1.34
2016: $1.50
2017: $1.62
2018: $1.76
2019: $1.94
2020: $2.14
2021: $2.36
2022: $2.54
This is what dividend growth looks like

[Anonymous No.56008667]

Ok this is inhumane. Look what they are doing to bankrun Sam. It's literally anuddah shoah.

[Anonymous No.56008692]

>>56008667
really hate the smug look on this goblins face, never seen a more bashable face

[Anonymous No.56008721]

>>56008692
He knows that we know that he has 9 figures stashed away for when he gets out and there's nothing we can do about it.

[Anonymous No.56008722]

>>56007185
every webm i see of this broad she's chugging beers. She's gonna wall so fast and so hard.

[Anonymous No.56008726]

Why doesn’t TMF have a better yield, shouldn’t I be getting like 14% yield if it’s 3x leveraged treasuries? There’s no way the funding cost eats 80% of the yield

[Anonymous No.56008730]

>>56008646
>le 0.8% dividend stock

[Anonymous No.56008734]

>>56008041
I unironically believe the same thing as this chink

[Anonymous No.56008743]

>>56008726
TMF goes up when yields go down because the principal of old yields increase when future yields are lower.

[Anonymous No.56008776]

>>56008743
Yeah I understand yield to maturity, I’m wondering why it doesn’t pay out a better yield right now. Best I can figure out, they’re probably leveraging CME futures, and I bet they don’t pay any coupon on those, so the question remains if the coupon is implied in the price. If they’re rolling contracts though we may never see those coupon payments. Reading CME website now and will report back.

[Anonymous No.56008786]

>>56008611
do they make 80% drops often?

[Anonymous No.56008787]

>>56008692
It's because he's one of God's chosen people and he also knows he greased the palms of both sides of the political aisle. And like the other anon said. He has a fuck ton of money tucked away that the government just can't seem to find. He'll probably do 5 years at most and if he serves any time at all he'll be spending it in club fed watching Netflix and playing video games. It will literally be a vacation.

[Anonymous No.56008806]

>>56008730
Yea starting yield. Thankfully I don’t invest for the present and can look forward to years and years of dividend growth

[Anonymous No.56008823]

>>56008806
>just invest today, so you can maybe get a decent dividend in ten years
Just fuck off already

[Anonymous No.56008829]

>>56008776
Because the premium for the leverage plus the decrease in principal from rising yields plus fund fee outweighs the coupon profit calculated into the previous premium pricing

[Anonymous No.56008831]

>>56008823
Yes but then you’ll have a decent dividend with a high dividend growth rate. Better than starting at 3% yield and only having a 3% growth rate.

MCD
2012: $2.87
2013: $3.12
2014: $3.28
2015: $3.44
2016: $3.61
2017: $3.83
2018: $4.19
2019: $4.73
2020: $5.04
2021: $5.25
2022: $5.66

[Anonymous No.56008844]

>>56008831
>McDonald's vs Microsoft comparison
Lmao yeah hindsight is golden

[Anonymous No.56008849]

>>56008776
Ok I figured it out, they only do total return swaps on the iShares 20 year index, so the yield is baked into the price structure but they’re paying most of it back in funding costs for the swaps.

[Anonymous No.56008853]

no div chuds get so fucking butthurt holy fucking kek

[Anonymous No.56008855]

>>56008844
Both of those companies were blue chip companies in 2012. You don’t need hindsight when investing in good companies

[Anonymous No.56008870]

>>56008829
Decrease in principal shouldn’t matter, yield will go up regardless if the principal decreases. But you’re correct ultimately, it’s just the funding cost for the leverage that is bringing down total yield. They’re paying 4% for a TRS on the iShares 20+ year index, so if implied leverage is 3x they’re paying 12% relative to their actual cash down

[Anonymous No.56008873]

ABBV, a well known dividend king that has raised dividends for 51 years in a row. Here’s just the last 10.
2013: $1.60
2022: $5.92

[Anonymous No.56008893]

Waste management

[Anonymous No.56008898]

>>56008855
So what are you advocating for? Buying dividend paying s&p500 companies? Since you're benchmarking the past 10 years, I can guarantee you that non dividend paying companies in the same index outperformed dividend paying ones even after withdrawing the same amount of money you would have had from the dividends.

What exactly are you trying to communicate? That you are satisfied with low returns? Buy SPX and forget bogleman?

[Anonymous No.56008900]

Starbucks with an average starting yield of 2% has offered some reliable dividend growth.
2012: $0.68
2022: $1.96

[Anonymous No.56008912]

>>56008898
> I can guarantee you that non dividend paying companies in the same index outperformed dividend
all of those companies had huge share price accumulation as well. Plus dividends massively overperform in troubling times. I get that you don’t understand the importance of dividends but that’s not my problem

[Anonymous No.56008923]

>>56008870
Decrease in principal matters because of the time difference unless youre in a deflationary environment. $10 coupon with $100 principal is more valuable than $20 coupon with $90 principal, paid out end of year. This is also baked into the price.

[Anonymous No.56008926]

China isn't going to collapse, it's going to go into long-term stagnation as it's unable to transition to a modern economy while facing high debt burden and a rapidly declining population.
Europe isn't going to collapse, it's going to settle into long-term stagnation as it's unable to innovate its economy further and Eastern European countries reach their maximal economic potential relative to the Western ones.
America isn't going to collapse, it's going to keep chugging along at roughly 2% - 3% growth per year as it faces continuing social issues like it always has.

None of the Big 3 are going to collapse, at worst they're just facing stagnation. Being an internet doomer doesn't make you cool. Canada's looking like it might be kind of fucked though no joke.

[Anonymous No.56008930]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w63DL2YGm9Y

[Anonymous No.56008938]

>>56008912
Dividends only make sense once you've already made it. Growth stocks are what get you to that point.

[Anonymous No.56008946]

companies that offer dividends are mature, steady businesses. The overall risk profile for these investments is much lower because it's less likely that businesses in this stage will go bankrupt

[Anonymous No.56008954]

>>56008938
I invest in both growth stocks and dividend stocks. Your disdain for dividend stocks outs you as a retard because most of the best growth stocks are dividend payers anyway. Even someone investing 100% in voo is benefiting from their dividend. Reinvested dividends compound very nicely

[Anonymous No.56008960]

>>56008912
I do this for a living.
You quoted half a sentence.
Dividends don't outperform in troubling times, that's a myth "proven" by short term frame "evidence". Dividends don't matter when it comes to performance. Dividends only matter in tax situations.

But have fun wallowing in your close minded pit without understanding basic business concepts.

[Anonymous No.56008965]

>>56008954
I don't have disdain for dividend stocks, they're just a waste of time unless you have 6 figures it more.
>most of the best growth stocks are dividend payers anyway
Kek no retard

[Anonymous No.56008978]

>>56008965
AAPL, MSFT, COST. You’ve been BTFO

[Anonymous No.56009000]

>>56008978
>Lists growth stocks with completely negligible dividends
Yeah people are buying those stocks for the dividends...

[Anonymous No.56009002]

>>56008960
>>56008965
brainlets

[Anonymous No.56009004]

>>56008565
Sometimes it goes beyond yield curves, CPI, bogus job numbers etc. It’s exactly what you say when you see a woman in a pic with a dog:

>you just know

[Anonymous No.56009005]

Holy shit the level of smug low quality low intellect posts on this board is astounding... every time I come back it's just worse than the last time.

[Anonymous No.56009012]

>>56009005
You’ve already been outed as a retard. Best to stop posting

[Anonymous No.56009018]

>>56007185
>>56007251
>>56007556
>>56008362
>>56008726
>>56008954
>>56009005

Basically, I’m just gonna keep holding my 100k worth of private spacex stock until they IPO, and then I’m gonna dump all of my bags on retail for a 20x and retire

I know I know, I’m sorry, it’s just, I’m gonna dump on you is all

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous No.56009021]

Not only do my dividends rise every year, I own more shares because my dividends have been reinvested. I’m benefited from the rising dividend, and from having more shares to pay out those rising dividends. Compounding really starts getting noticeable 5 years into divvy stacking

[Anonymous No.56009024]

>>56009005
That's the way /smg/ has always been and part of the charm of this place

[Anonymous No.56009032]

>>56008923
Yes I get yield to maturity. If bond prices go down to $90, the fund should now have a cash yield of 22% of your principal. Due to the assets used to leverage the return however, any yield on the underlying is rolled in with principal drawdown.

This is as compared to if the fund borrowed money short term to buy physical treasuries on credit, in which case we would expect to see our total return and principal drop, but we would expect to see our yield go up, assuming of course it was gross and not net of borrowing costs

[Anonymous No.56009041]

>>56009021
>an Instagram stocktwits thot 10x'd your portfolio by blindly buying Tesla in 6 months
Nothing personal kid

[Anonymous No.56009054]

>>56009005
>>56008960
I didn’t realize this was the same dude. There’s no fucking way you’re sitting here acting smart when you kept repeating “muh prices move inverse to muh yield” despite the conversation being way past that. GTFO here brainlet

[Anonymous No.56009056]

>>56009012
Lol
I'll prove you wrong with a simple example just because I'm kind:

Business A does not pay a dividend
Business B does pay a dividend, let's say 33% payout of profit
Both start out with $100
Business A has 50% Return On Capital Employed
Business B has 30% ROCE
Business A will have $150 after a year
Business B will have $120 + 10div
Year 2 troubling times hit
Profits get halved
You fill out the rest of the remaining years
>why business b bad???
Now flip the return on capital employed and marvel upon how dividends literally don't matter

[Anonymous No.56009076]

>>56009041
>someone got lucky buying growth stocks
Dividend stocks are much safer. No one has ever lost their portfolio owning quality dividend companies. Growth stocks on the other hand are wildly volatile. Yes they can produce massive gains but they are vulnerable to massive losses as well. Not really a problem when 10% of your portfolio is Johnson and Johnson or Home Depot. The best dividend stocks to buy right now are known by everyone. The best growth stocks to buy right now are still unknown. That being said I do have some long shot growth stocks accumulating in my taxable brokerage

[Anonymous No.56009090]

>>56009056
Business an isn’t a very good business because it isn’t returning any capital to the investors. Utterly disgusting

[Anonymous No.56009095]

>>56009076
Yes dividends have a time and a place. Someone who just turned 18 and is starting investing for the first time should go that route. Or somebody with a reasonable amount of money. But a 30 year old with a 4 figure account has no business buying them for the $7 a fiscal quarter in dividends. You also run the risk that a company pulls their dividend eventually and then you're left holding the bag as everyone flees.

[Anonymous No.56009103]

>>56009032
>>56009054
Maybe it's easier to understand that just because the fund holds assets to maturity doesn't mean that it gets marked as such because not everyone does, and the underlying trades and is marked accordingly. Idk what you're missing.

[Anonymous No.56009115]

>>56009095
I don’t invest in companies that pull dividends. I’ve been saying quality this entire time. I monitor my holdings and if any one company’s payout ratio gets too high I’ll liquidate and reallocate those funds. T is a good example of this. I enjoyed many years of dividend growth and when it became clear they couldn’t sustain it I closed my entire position and 2 years later they cut dividends. That’s the beauty of dividends. There is always advance indication if one will be cut

[Anonymous No.56009119]

FUCK

[Anonymous No.56009123]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOYC1U_58zw

[Anonymous No.56009127]

>>56009076
"Oh good thing for me then, I guess the brokerage I'm borrowing money from against my dividend-less equity is really holding the bag, all while I'm not even incurring capital gains tax!"
Said no billionaire ever.

[Anonymous No.56009134]

>>56009127
Shit I didn’t realize you were a billionaire. My apologies

[Anonymous No.56009136]

>>56009103
>just because the fund holds assets to maturity doesn’t mean it gets marked as such because not everyone does and the underlying trade is marked accordingly
Except there’s a thing called SEC yield that’s required reporting on cash distributions and standardizes the way any fund marks yield. You can have negative returns and still mark positive yields, happens all the time with those covered call ETFs.

There’s no fucking way you’re anything other than a brainlet in a bachelors course currently, please vacate the thread for my sanity

[Anonymous No.56009146]

>>56009134
Apologies accepted

[Anonymous No.56009154]

>>56009115
Ok let's go with a safe company. Let's use the example McDonald's. 1 share is $280 and each share has a quarterly dividend of $5.66 right? In order to earn enough dividends to earn one share worth of reinvestment you would need to have $280 worth of dividend payments each quarter which would equate to roughly 50 shares which is $14000. $14k worth of stock to earn one share each quarter. You can see why you need to either start young or already have a large amount of capital for this to make sense over higher risk growth stocks right?

[Anonymous No.56009158]

>>56007261
So we're either going to get a totally new paradigm of billions are unironically going to die. But the current financial system is at it's end. Like a game of monopoly.

[Anonymous No.56009171]

>>56009136
You're confusing yield with coupon.
Time to re-read everything with that in mind maybe it makes sense for you then... maybe not idk
Happy to help where needed

[Anonymous No.56009178]

>>56007185
>bonds protect your portfolio

[Anonymous No.56009183]

>>56009171
You’re spewing word salad. Please do help, explain what you meant by “principal drawdown of bonds will bring the funds yield lower”

[Anonymous No.56009189]

>>56009158
Covid was specifically designed to cover up how fucked the global economy is and to give shitbag governments a scapegoat to deflect blame. It was the golden parachute for a lot of the rich and powerful. And gave a lot of people on the inside a heads-up to dump their bags and rebuy at a cheaper price. There are no coincidences or surprises in this era. Everything is monitored and controlled

[Anonymous No.56009194]

>>56009183
Can you send me the post you're referring to where I said that? That doesn't make any sense

[Anonymous No.56009211]

>>56009194
Sure;
>>56008776
My post;
Why is yield on TMF not 3x
>>56008829
You: because the premium decrease (and borrowing costs, but we agreed on this) outweighs the coupon profit

[Anonymous No.56009265]

>>56009178
They kinda do they kinda dont. If you hold to maturity their value remains fixed. In addition they are highly liquid assets of good quality. But you do still face opportunity cost risks especially on longr duration bonds where if you didnt offload your 30years during covid.. Their par value would be down 50-60%

[Anonymous No.56009284]

>>56009154
dunno people have different personalites so their styles can be very different. i bet you can do aggressive divie plays too with small capital.

[Anonymous No.56009293]

>>56009076
>No one has ever lost their portfolio owning quality dividend companies.

i bet there is some huge too big to fail companies gone under. its not often or common but its a risk still.

[Anonymous No.56009305]

>>56009178
Government screws everyone equally. The told the boomers to load up their portfolios with stocks and the the 08 crash happened. Then they turned around and told boomers to buy bonds so another 08 wouldn't happen and now look lol.
>>56009284
You can gamble on high risk dividend trap REITs but I dont advise it. If you want to be a degenerate just buy NVDA shares and gamble on AI.

[Anonymous No.56009318]

>>56007185
>/smg/ - STOCK MARKET GENERAL Anonymous (ID: gBAY/DF/) 09/02/23(Sat)02:05:32 No.56007185

[Anonymous No.56009322]

>>56009318
>7 Mog Loss

[Anonymous No.56009336]

>>56007185
I trade for she

[Anonymous No.56009373]

I just ate a baked potato

[Anonymous No.56009382]

>>56009211
I think you misread, I never said "premium decrease" or "principal drawdown of bonds will bring the funds yield lower".

Hopped on my laptop to type this for ya :-)
I'll break it down:
"Because the premium for the leverage plus the decrease in principal from rising yields plus fund fee outweighs the coupon profit calculated into the previous premium pricing"

The premium is what they are paying to afford the derivative contracts: simply put the cost of purchasing the desired derivative on top of the intrinsic value of the derivative, like an insurance, which can increase and decrease based on volatility of rate expectations.
+
The decrease in principal is simply the result of rate hikes, I'm sure you know how that works: yield up, principal down.
+
fund fee is what they are charging to do all this, simple as

all that outweighs the following:
"the coupon profit calculated into the previous premium pricing"

This one's a little bit more difficult and has to do with the way these premiums are priced:
Back a few years ago, we were in less volatile times and premiums were cheap. The fund bought these derivatives and became owner of those premiums. They can also charge it upon sale, I know they hold to maturity but this is not how they are marked. These premium prices have increased and the fund marks these premium prices into the return of the fund. This is why the fund is going down, the premium profit does not outweigh the previously stated changes.

note before reading the following: yield is NOT the same as coupon and you're consistently mixing them up
There are 2 ways to answer your question depending on your confusion:
1. The coupon (you're referring to this as yield) is not higher because the fund uses the weighted average over all 20 years and we're only a short time into increased yields
2. When I get a $100 bond at $10 coupon I will have a yield of 10%; When I have $100 and get $300 worth of bonds (3 bonds) at 10% each, my yield will still be 10%

[Anonymous No.56009385]

>>56009373
Was it yummy? Toppings?

[Anonymous No.56009393]

>>56007461
This is my entire net worth. Am I invested properly?

[Anonymous No.56009395]

Dividends are what dying/stagnant companies do. You are better off buying a Vanguard etf that reinvests dividends in itself

[Anonymous No.56009405]

>>56009393
Us always performs better than world but it is a good bet

[Anonymous No.56009413]

Relaxing weekend. You know sometimes I wake thinking just how good my life turned out to be. I keep thinking the big shat is round the bend though so I don't turn into a stuffy asshole about the whole deal. I know full well it was a mater of work,luck, and just plain not doing things the "normal" way that got me where I am now. You may hate where you are in life now but remember; things could always be so much more fucked for you to.

[Anonymous No.56009431]

>>56009413
tell us your age, net worth and how you got there

[Anonymous No.56009435]

>>56009385
just butter.
The bag of potatoes I got is a bit sandy. I need to remember to stop buying Kroger's budget Heritage farm brand because it always sucks.

[Anonymous No.56009449]

>>56009382
> Back a few years ago, we were in less volatile times and premiums were cheap. The fund bought these derivatives and became owner of those premiums. They can also charge it upon sale, I know they hold to maturity but this is not how they are marked. These premium prices have increased and the fund marks these premium prices into the return of the fund. This is why the fund is going down, the premium profit does not outweigh the previously stated changes.
Yes that’s the borrowing cost, they pay a fixed rate and in return receive the “premium”/total return on the iShares 20+ year treasury index. Yes we agree that they receive less money because borrowing costs are higher

> 1. The coupon (you're referring to this as yield) is not higher because the fund uses the weighted average over all 20 years and we're only a short time into increased yields
If I’m understanding correct you’re trying to say I’m wrong and the coupon is what a fund pays out in cash, which is just incorrect cash payments relative to principal invested are called yield, coupons are fixed payments on a bond. cash payments are marked as the yield relative the funds principal. It doesn’t matter if the yield is on the WAM of their portfolio, if the WAM is 20 years they mark the bonds to market and pay out the same fixed coupon then yield has gone up

> 2. When I get a $100 bond at $10 coupon I will have a yield of 10%; When I have $100 and get $300 worth of bonds (3 bonds) at 10% each, my yield will still be 10%
Your coupon will be 10% on a notional $300 of bonds, your yield on cash invested will be 30%, again assuming net of borrowing costs

You’re incorrect. There’s not much else to say, you’re holding yourself out as knowledgable but fucking up simple math.

[Anonymous No.56009461]

>>56009435
Is that you poem anon?

[Anonymous No.56009469]

>>56009449
Small fix, the 10% will be your yield on the bond yes. Assuming you brought the bonds for face value, your yield and coupon will be 10%. And yes assuming market prices fluctuate your yield could go down to 5% on the bond, but the coupon would remain fixed at 10% of face value/principal

[Anonymous No.56009470]

>>56009461
no

[Anonymous No.56009478]

>>56009000
It shows they have profits available for shareholders. Providing a tangible roi as opposed to the assurance that my shares are totally worth more now do not redeem. also fuck stocks lets talk about what races we dislike and how we dont get sex.

[Anonymous No.56009479]

>>56009461
Why would I bake a potato at 8 am?

[Anonymous No.56009494]

>>56009479
hash browns are the same shit nutritionally with more work

[Anonymous No.56009507]

>>56009494
If I were going to make hash browns though, I'd buy a bag of frozen hash browns at KR and follow the instructions

[Anonymous No.56009551]

tempted to find a bobo position since bobos got wreckd all week

that means scanning for bad sectors etc.

[Anonymous No.56009563]

>>56009479
I just hear KR talk and assumed it was you

[Anonymous No.56009616]

>>56009393
those world etfs are mainly the sp500.
anyway, the only thing to do for long terms is to buy the dips, only with limit orders

[Anonymous No.56009640]

>>56009494
I had to Google Kevin Nash getting raped and Jesus Christ you guys pick the most random shit to troll people over lmao

[Anonymous No.56009683]

>>56009449
>>56009469
I still don't know what you're missing desu, idk if I should point out that borrowed money comes at a cost and the money market rate is higher than the 20y coupon, which hasn't always been the case? idk man but good luck :P

[Anonymous No.56009692]

>>56008374
Ah yes I see it now, it looks like this renowned artist

[Anonymous No.56009694]

>>56008646
No one asked, start tripfagging

[Anonymous No.56009697]

>>56009683
No, the curves inverted? Do tell.

Maybe don’t fuck up simple concepts like yield and coupon before being a dick next time

[Anonymous No.56009707]

>>56009640
It was during the #MeToo movement when beta cuck manlets were boosting their social credit scores by claiming to be rape victims. Fun times.

[Anonymous No.56009711]

>>56009018
>private spacex stock
seems legit

[Anonymous No.56009712]

>>56009697
you're the one who messed up I had to explain it to you XDDDDD
I can't with this board, I'm going back to >>>/bant/

[Anonymous No.56009735]

>>56009712
Absolutely seething. Love to see it

[Anonymous No.56009741]

>>56007185
I look like this.

[Anonymous No.56009744]

>>56009692
Boy as she gets older the Jew is really starting to shine through her face

[Anonymous No.56009747]

>>56007227
I find this incredibly sexy and I’m not afraid to admit it (anonymously of course)

[Anonymous No.56009748]

>>56009692
i want to fuck her face financially

[Anonymous No.56009764]

>>56009747
You should try replicating the position she is sitting in.

[Anonymous No.56009829]

>>56008667
I’ve been to prison and they absolutely ensure you get a halal, Kosher, vegetarian, vegan or whatever other diet you need. And that was state prison, federal prison is a lot better

[Anonymous No.56009831]

What are the chances we will adhere to seasonality this september? Sell in may go away didn't happen and we were green for that month.

[Anonymous No.56009836]

>>56009748
that's a man

[Anonymous No.56009841]

They say that 2023 is the best year for videogames and you know when the only other time that was said? In 2007. Think about it

[Anonymous No.56009852]

“I’d rather die while I’m living than live while I’m dead”
F

[Anonymous No.56009855]

>>56009841
what exactly is coming out/came out this year that is super fab? We got a new Pikmin and Zelda and a new FF mainline installment. Other than that I am drawing blanks.

[Anonymous No.56009862]

Every week I lose money and on the weekends I'm depressed because I lost more money.

[Anonymous No.56009874]

I won't hold anything long term because last year I lost so much and I'm constantly in fear SPY is going to drop back to $360

[Anonymous No.56009876]

>>56009855
ah right nevermind

[Anonymous No.56009892]

>>56009829
Jesus, what did you go to prison for.

[Anonymous No.56009908]

S for cheeseburger boomer man
now if all parrotheads could just an hero in unison

[Anonymous No.56009974]

If Charlie Munger outlives Warren Buffet you know he's going to be secretly smug about it.

[Anonymous No.56010039]

>>56008912
dividends only make sense when you can put down atleast 250k. if you want to grow you need tech stocks, meme plays and crypto or you will not make it!

[Anonymous No.56010072]

>>56009892
being a faggot

[Anonymous No.56010077]

>>56009974
I'd be smug about outliving all my peers as well.

[Anonymous No.56010083]

>>56010072
Hey that's rude anon

[Anonymous No.56010155]

>>56009393
So your asset allocation is 100% equities. That's fine if:
- you're young,
- you expect a reliable income outside of your investments,
- stock-market risk doesn't make you anxious, and
- you won't panic-sell if stock prices crash.

Your specific fund choice is god-tier.

[Anonymous No.56010178]

Quick reminder that "SOXL" is pronounced "soh-shell"

[Anonymous No.56010200]

>>56010178
pfft what? the hell it is.

[Anonymous No.56010210]

>>56010178
sounds gay. not saying it

[Anonymous No.56010221]

>>56010178
My dad works for David Soxl, I think I know how to pronounce it

[Anonymous No.56010241]

>>56008734
I don't think it's even a quote, they just put a picture of Jackie Chan next to it.

[Anonymous No.56010242]

>>56010178
Hell no, you are a madman, just look at the etymology.
SOXL comes from the root word "SOX" (even though it covers ICE not Philadelphia index)
how would you pronounce SOX??
"SOSH"??
Hell no!
You'd say SOX like FOX ("SAWKS")
so SOXL is of course, without any argument, SAWKS - ULL
SOXL
SOX ULL

[Anonymous No.56010243]

>>56007631
120k in a 4.75 CD that I can pull out at any time no penalty
30k checking/savings
25k PMs
400k in a variety of index ETFs, fairly conservative mix though (vtv, dia, voo, vti)

[Anonymous No.56010258]

>>56010200
>>56010210
>>56010221
>>56010242
Yeah, try pronouncing it like that to your broker (female (knows French)). It's "soh-shell".

[Anonymous No.56010261]

>>56009431
he doesn't have more than 1 mil

[Anonymous No.56010267]

>>56007235
Intel will have quite a lot of catching up to do. It can be done but it is far from sure that they will actually succeed. The competition is years ahead of them. Also, in order to get there they will have to spend shit tons of money, which sucks in an economical environment of high rates and recession fears.

[Anonymous No.56010269]

>>56010258
She specifically said she does not speak F****h! I just asked.

[Anonymous No.56010270]

>>56010243
why would you have different ETFs and not just buy VOO or VTI?

[Anonymous No.56010274]

>>56010258
I would never let a woman handle my trades.

[Anonymous No.56010280]

>>56010274
And by trades you mean penis. Right?

[Anonymous No.56010283]

>>56007631
210K in stocks and etfs
25K in apple savings at 4.15%

[Anonymous No.56010288]

>>56010280
Correct I only let females (males) handle it.

[Anonymous No.56010296]

>>56010274
Get a load of this loser. He doesn't have a female broker on speed dial at all times. NGMI

[Anonymous No.56010298]

>>56007631
100% in 3x ETF's, as per tradition

[Anonymous No.56010304]

>>56009841
I never really thought about it but it does seem like a deliberate choice to release a bunch of big video games right before people lose their jobs in order to placate them. I wonder how many people didn't kill themselves because they had Halo 3 back in 2008/9.

[Anonymous No.56010306]

>>56010298
That's insane. You should at least 25% in short-term OTM options.

[Anonymous No.56010313]

>>56010298
GIGABASED

[Anonymous No.56010327]

>>56010296
Oh so you're saying you'd let cathie wood handle your investments?

[Anonymous No.56010330]

>>56009413
Based dividend boomer

[Anonymous No.56010340]

>>56009393
>>56009413
>muh line always goes up
lol. No
You people are all utterly delusional and have no idea where the world is heading

[Anonymous No.56010355]

>>56007631
A few months ago I bought a hand full of consumer staples which all shat the bed. At the same time I bought the dip in Eli Lilly, which is nice. So, basically, I am where I started, kek. Slightly in the green.

[Anonymous No.56010384]

Short NVO
Ozempic study: You lose connective tissue, bone mass, muscle mass - Peter Attia - lost weight, but gained fat - higher % of body fat, primarily losing muscle tissue, connective tissue, so much of that, that even when losing 20 pounds, their bodyfat % could rise from 15% to 20%
NVO $189.31 - target $125-150 in 1 year
Ozempic body damage truth will come out - it is now in the public sphere
Unironically, short NVO big, 10% allocation easy

[Anonymous No.56010387]

>>56010384
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/novo-nordisk-market-cap-higher-than-danish-gdp-obesity-drugs
>Signal: Novo Nordisk market cap higher than Danish GDP due to obesity drugs
Novo Nordisk's obesity drugs are driving Danish growth as well as record profits as the company becomes second-most valuable in Europe.
>Market cap larger than Denmark GDP
Lmao.
Short NVO hand over fist

[Anonymous No.56010394]

>>56010384
source?

[Anonymous No.56010406]

>>56010384
Not a big deal, only Satan worshipping celebrities use it. The devil is taking back what he's owed out of them.

[Anonymous No.56010407]

>>56010394
Found the instagram and youtube video source. So, in the trash this goes.

[Anonymous No.56010409]

>>56010384
>>56010387
Say no more. I’ll buy some put leaps

[Anonymous No.56010415]

>>56010394
https://youtu.be/pcWeT-eI8hY?t=138
2:18
this info is going to go out to millions of people, which will ripple out to millions of other people, where it will snowball and more digging will be done - even if the allegations are false, it will create uncertainty and fear for investors
>>56010406
It is a big deal for the price of the stock of NVO, which is currently closed at $189.31, and is trading at a market cap larger than the GDP of the nation it is based in

[Anonymous No.56010419]

>>56010384
>>56010387
I talked to my doctor about this and he said all the thotties are on it because they can eat like pigs still and be bone thin. he said his office has trouble keeping it in stock. im not sure your short is going to work out the way you think it is

[Anonymous No.56010426]

>>56010419
They are - however, I think in the weeks/months to come, this dark information will come out, and it will become a "trend" on social media to talk about how ozempic is harming bodies, and it will become shameful for people to take it / will fizzle out faster than anyone could have imagined

[Anonymous No.56010428]

>>56010415
Maybe the stock dumps who knows? But who would have thought that taking a drug that makes you lose weight with no effort might not be good for you?

[Anonymous No.56010429]

>>56010426
I think you vastly underestimate the need for sluts to stay thin and fuckable

[Anonymous No.56010440]

>>56010429
I think you are vastly underestimating how people do whatever they are told on social media

[Anonymous No.56010448]

>>56010440
>lose some connective tissue
>not have any consequences for my actions
what exactly do you think the average amerifat is going to do

[Anonymous No.56010454]

>>56010419
>all the thotties are on it because they can eat like pigs still and be bone thin
Thats not how it works
It makes you lose appetite
If they would still eat like pigs, they would still gain weight

[Anonymous No.56010458]

>>56010429
This. Women would literally kill their parents if they could lose 10 lbs

[Anonymous No.56010470]

>>56010458
But they dont lose actual fat, its mostly muscle

[Anonymous No.56010480]

>>56010454
it does a lot more than that. appetite suppressant is just one effect. but im just telling you what my doctor said and ultimately ill trust him over you, sorry bud.

[Anonymous No.56010481]

>>56010458
>>56010470
Exactly - they aren't losing fat
and this truth will come out / become more widely known, that they are gaining fat
but losing muscle, losing connective tissue
that they are losing so much muscle and connective tissue that it is the weight loss, not that they are losing fat causing the weight loss

[Anonymous No.56010490]

>>56010481
>>56010470
>they arent losing fat because this random article says so.
meanwhile you just ignore that the fuckign world has to find a new diabetes drug because its been literally so effective as a weight loss drug. lol. some of you guys are really not that bright.

[Anonymous No.56010493]

>>56010480
I don't doubt that your doctor is seeing an influx of women taking ozempic
I am arguing that it is a "fad" - and the harm spotlight will be shined on it, where "everyone" (in that sphere) will be talking about how bad it is for you in the months to come
again the stock is currently trading at a market cap larger than the nation it resides in - it's not like it's some obscure, super underpriced stock
if there is any wrench that gets thrown in the cogs, the stock will pull back from these highs

[Anonymous No.56010500]

>>56010387
>short the company that makes the drug that all the Amerifats are trying to get their hands on despite it being super expensive
yeah ok

[Anonymous No.56010503]

>>56010384
What happens is, the drug fucks with your hormones. So that you are in a caloric deficit. Eating with a caloric deficit makes you lose muscle, because your body is starving and dissolving your muscles for fuel.
The only way to prevent that is going into ketosis, so your body can burn fat.
You go into ketosis by not eating anything or by eating very low carb.
If you eat garbage food and take the drug you will lose muscle.
Modern medicine is a fucking joke.

[Anonymous No.56010518]

>>56010481
It's really not a big secret. If you read the side effects of that drug, they are pretty nasty even before this info came out, but yeah it's bad news for diabetes. It's basically like giving yourself cancer to lose weight kek

[Anonymous No.56010527]

>>56010481
Kek so they aren't losing fat. They're losing muscle and thus the weak sheep become even weaker and lazier. Keep this up soon some 70 year old fucker will be "stronger" than some 30 something young pill popper. Or put it another way; a 20lb bag of cat food will be to much for a young pill popper to handle while that old fuck you laugh at can lug it around like nothing.

[Anonymous No.56010532]

I'm a hot girl, and I come in different flavours
All the hot boys got me as their screen saver
Tall green, money green just like Bottegas
Taking off our clothes in the window for the neighbours
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKIU3Q5oiMg

[Anonymous No.56010546]

>>56010527
>>56010503
>>56010518
show me your medical degree's or shut the fuck up.

[Anonymous No.56010549]

>>56010527
It is both. You lose both. Jesus i know /smg/ is stupid but fuck me. This place is extra fucking stupid without green or red line to stare at all day. Im outta here this weekend, see you fucking retards on Tues.

[Anonymous No.56010551]

Buy this game instead of Starfield. Kino early 2000’s style financial sim.

[Anonymous No.56010553]

>>56010518
>It's really not a big secret
Go ask the normie women in your life if they know that people who take ozempic lose so much muscle and connective tissue, that this is the weight they are losing, not fat, that people who take ozempic are gaining fat, just that the amount of muscle and connective tissue loss is so massive that it overcomes the amount of fat that you gain, literally 1 out of 10 will know this
if you were to ask doctors, I wouldn't even put it at 8 out of 10 knowing (where you'd expect 10/10 to know)
it isn't a big secret, in that it's not kept a secret hush hush, but it's "secretive" in that the knowledge is not wide known - now it has been broadcasted on the most popular podcast in the world, where millions of people will hear it, and share it with people they know - the knowledge will ripple
you are vastly overestimating the knowledge of the average normie
I think that NVO will pull back very hard, with some -10% days easy, and will go back to $125-150 within 1 years time

[Anonymous No.56010555]

>>56010546
>Rapid weight loss from taking GLP-1 medications like Ozempic and Wegovy can cause a decrease in muscle mass, lessen bone density, and lower your resting metabolic rate, leading to sarcopenia.
>Sarcopenia is the gradual loss of muscle mass, strength, and function and is typically associated with aging.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/ozempic-muscle-mass-loss

[Anonymous No.56010562]

>>56010546
Read it and weep chud

[Anonymous No.56010581]

>>56010553
Well yeah, if covid proved anything it's that doctors push whatever big pharma tells them. They get their "research" directly from the pharmaceutical companies.

[Anonymous No.56010589]

>>56010555
improper diet does that too. obesity has health issues too. pick your poison. I just dont see amerifats dumping this and their quadruple bypass burgers just because theyll lose a little muscle mass

[Anonymous No.56010599]

>>56010589
let me correct myself
>MIGHT lose some muscle mass

[Anonymous No.56010605]

>>56007185
I'd like to fuck her in her pussy, if you know what I mean

[Anonymous No.56010606]

>>56010589
All they would need to do is fast. Meaning not eat anything. Then they would lose fat not muscle. because their body would access their body fat for fuel.
But of course taking a pill is much easier

[Anonymous No.56010614]

>>56010606
you are preaching to the choir bud. but we are talking about the average american.

[Anonymous No.56010623]

>>56010589
Also Americans are as vain as they've ever been thanks to social media. I don't think people will care if they lose muscle. Hell all they care is the number is lower on the scale.

[Anonymous No.56010645]

>>56010605
please explain

[Anonymous No.56010657]

>>56009829
Did you get to do gay stuff

[Anonymous No.56010668]

>>56010614
Apparently, even fat people only lose about 10% of their body weight with it. And if you stop taking it, you gain it back.
It was originalyl made for Diabetes, but selling it as weight loss drug makes of course even more money
Its a fucking fraud, like most things to today

[Anonymous No.56010671]

>>56010657
Buddy it's basically a lock in of gay sex.

[Anonymous No.56010679]

>>56010384
>>56010503
Lmao, you might as well just take DNP at that point.

[Anonymous No.56010681]

I had an "awkward" conversation at work with one of my tech leads about posting sexy female pop stars like Alizée, Britney, and Shakira in the Signal chats. He said that although we all know each other well it might make future people uncomfortable, and that it started to look like an "obsession". I think I got away with it for a while because I disclosed to them that I'm ADHD and on the autistic spectrum, financially speaking. DESU when he called me into the huddle room privately I thought it was going to be about excessive drinking. He said that he was hesitant to even bring it up because he didn't want to stop me from being social and kill the culture of me posting memes in the group chats and organizing happy hours.

[Anonymous No.56010689]

>>56010681
My bastard, not only are you autistic, you hang out here. You should have an entirely different and fake persona when dealing with normalfags. None of us are normal and neither are our interests or hobbies.

[Anonymous No.56010691]

>>56010340
Is this the end of cheap and plentiful asian cunny?

[Anonymous No.56010707]

>>56010691
if you are white then it will always be a never ending spring of fresh young asian putang.

[Anonymous No.56010709]

>>56010668
>stop taking it, you gain it back
thats the beauty of the grift, exactly what my doctor said, and also exactly why the short thesis here is stupid. they've had to develop a new diabetes drug because its out of stock due to the weight loss prescription.

[Anonymous No.56010714]

>>56009836
I want to fuck his face

[Anonymous No.56010718]

>>56010709
Well, yeah. To some extent.
But if it doesnt work over the long run then people will realize that. They wont continue to shell out 1000 dollars a month for something that doesnt really work.

[Anonymous No.56010720]

>>56010689
>You should have an entirely different and fake persona when dealing with normalfags. None of us are normal and neither are our interests or hobbies.
Unfortunately this is true. In casual social interactions it doesn't so much matter but your place of employment is different unless your job is extremely secure no matter what people happen to think about you and your autistic behaviour. At work I am known as a guy who doesn't have much to say. I have plenty to say but don't as they wouldn't be pleased to hear any of it.

[Anonymous No.56010722]

>>56010714
That's a good looking kitty.

[Anonymous No.56010723]

>>56010718
it does work though. the problem is that it doesnt fix the root cause which is your behavioral patterns, and that is why it comes back. It wouldnt be out of stock across the country if it didnt work anon.

[Anonymous No.56010731]

>>56010723
It unfortunately turns you into a bog though.

[Anonymous No.56010732]

>>56010645
I'd like to repetitively insert my manly part into the hole of her vagina (where the babies come out of).

[Anonymous No.56010733]

braising beef currently in an english style brown maple ale. About two hours and it should just melt in my mouth no homo

[Anonymous No.56010737]

>FUTURES

[Anonymous No.56010738]

>>56010384
Gonna play devil's advocate on this. While I think you're right that this drug is a shitshow, you're seriously naive in thinking this is the only drug that's a shitshow. The entire industry is like this. So shorting this may do a thing if it becomes hugely unpopular but if it's mostly doing what it says on the tin, then this company will just potter along.
The better approach here may be that NVO is just generally too expensive for what it does.

[Anonymous No.56010740]

>>56010723
Well, if they lose muscle instead of fat, than thats not "working"

[Anonymous No.56010753]

>>56010740
do you really believe its possible to lose muscle but not fat? Think about what you are saying. If what you are saying is anything other than alarmist and bullshit than the product would be pulled from shelves. you're saying its packaged muscular dystrophy? come on anon.

[Anonymous No.56010754]

>>56010737
FUTURES-posting on a Saturday
You are retarded, go back

[Anonymous No.56010757]

>>56010733
> no homo?
Sounds like your prepping the bull to me.

[Anonymous No.56010766]

>>56010754
Well I guess I'm the only one here with precognition then

[Anonymous No.56010768]

>>56010738
There is already a knew diabetes drug for fatties called mounjaro, so find out who makes that and maybe buy calls if ozempic shits the bed.

[Anonymous No.56010773]

>>56010768
There are tonnes of weight loss drugs and they're all dubious. No one is going to get rich because weight loss drugs suddenly don't work and you shorted the company that makes them.

[Anonymous No.56010774]

>>56010754
>>56010766
>eventually, it will be the future.
profound...

[Anonymous No.56010780]

>>56010689
I'm 33, been on 4chan since the mid-2000s, and as I get older I start trying to be more real and authentic, testing the waters with certain people on what I can get away with. I can always play it off as "oh I saw it on Reddit" like a normie. Half the guys lurk 4chan from time to time (I've learned from happy hours or bar hopping on business trips). My main team lead doesn't really mind NSFW references and everyone seems to laugh at them. I kind of like that about our company culture. It's like we all give laugh emotes at a post without admitting that we understand the reference.

[Anonymous No.56010784]

>>56010753
Its how the body works. A caloric deficit makes you lose muscle, because the body needs fuel from somewhere.

Many people are worse off than before.

>Ozempic may be the miracle of the moment, but no one knows what is down the track because there is no long-term data for this drug when used for weight loss, and managing fat chemically can have implications for whole body health.

>together with fat tissue – lean muscle tissue is shed too, and it’s important for metabolic function, not only during exercise, but also at rest.

>On stopping the drug, many people regain weight in the form of fat. This leaves them with net muscle loss.

[Anonymous No.56010787]

Why is OP's whore still being posted?
SIMPCELs need the rope

[Anonymous No.56010791]

>>56010784
>While they are lighter than they were initially, they have a higher percentage of body fat. Paradoxically, they are lighter but fatter.

>This gives rise to the next concern – an increased risk of sarcopenia, a disorder characterised by a fast deterioration of muscle mass that affects metabolic rate and general function.

[Anonymous No.56010794]

>>56010780
My company is not cool. I got an angry call from hr when I said the n igger word

[Anonymous No.56010801]

>>56010791
>Bones are affected with weight loss, too. There is a lot of crosstalk between muscles and bones.

>https://www.afr.com/policy/health-and-education/lighter-but-fatter-the-ozempic-paradox-20230718-p5dp5w

[Anonymous No.56010802]

>>56010784
>A caloric deficit makes you lose muscle
not if you have fat. thats literally what fat is for. werent you the one discussing fasting?
>the rest of your quotes
ultimately the people taking these drugs have a problem so bad that they are seeking medication. they care more about losing weight than anything else. Losing muscle is also losing weight to them anon. im sorry but the short thesis is shit.

[Anonymous No.56010814]

>>56010801
>Muscle and Bones share some signalling pathways

[Anonymous No.56010843]

>>56010802
>not if you have fat. thats literally what fat is for. werent you the one discussing fasting?
They arent fasting. Thats the point of the drug. And if they arent eating Keto then they arent accessing their fat stores properly. Thus their bodies will lose muscle.

[Anonymous No.56010887]

>>56010843
I was talking about your general statement about caloric deficiencies there, not the case of typical people taking Ozempic.
Ozempic doesnt work by trying to get you into a caloric deficit, its more hormonal which obviously will have side effects.
ultimately im not arguing with you about its health deficiencies or comparisons, im arguing that americans simply dont care. Or rather, they care more about its benefits.
case and point: look at the vast list of prescription drugs with worse side effects - like fucking suicidal thoughts and shit. Still approved, still used.

[Anonymous No.56010891]

>>56010802
When I say fasting, I mean not eating anything. Real fasting. not eating in a caloric deficit.
With real fasting the body will switch into Ketosis and slurp up your body fat to survive.
It then actually spares your muscles.

[Anonymous No.56010900]

>>56010887
>Ozempic doesnt work by trying to get you into a caloric deficit
Thats exactly what it does. It makes you lose appetite, it makes you feel ful, even if you arent.
You eat less and are thus in a caloric deficit, where you constantly lose muscle.

[Anonymous No.56010916]

>>56010900
i'm not going to repeat myself. >>56010480

[Anonymous No.56010927]

Can the market go higher or are we at the top?

[Anonymous No.56010932]

>>56010754
NO U

[Anonymous No.56010937]

>>56010927
It can double by eoy

[Anonymous No.56010998]

>>56010916
Look, you have no idea how the body works.
Stop bothering me. ok

[Anonymous No.56011010]

>>56010998
ok doctor retard

[Anonymous No.56011023]

>>56007185
That's my piss btw.

[Anonymous No.56011027]

>>56007261
That's because half the world is holding cash while they wait for the next real estate crash. They literally want it to happen.

[Anonymous No.56011053]

>>56010927
We live in a clown world, which includes this clown market. We will rally to new highs, and it will be due to Biden and his buddies backing the globohomo agenda. The Democrats will use this as a talking point for the 2024 election, and the American population will listen and be brainwashed. Even though they won't see much of the money going to them, they will still see it as a positive.

[Anonymous No.56011101]

According to my calculations VIX will reach 0.00 in 6 more weeks™

[Anonymous No.56011106]

>>56011101
Forgot my scientific proof

[Anonymous No.56011124]

>>56011106
Thanks anon. Nice momentum trade. Time to short the shit out of that "VIX" ticker.

[Anonymous No.56011170]

This can be the last one

[Anonymous No.56011184]

June 2007, approx 2 months prior to the onset of the GFC, the VIX was at 12. Look at where it went in the following 2 months.

[Anonymous No.56011208]

>>56011124
Clear this "VIX" company must be going out of business.

>>56011184
Uh trends matter anon, duh

[Anonymous No.56011234]

>>56011170
Thank God, we're finally free

[Anonymous No.56011246]

>>56011234
>cunny is the last ever pic posted in smg
Based beyond imagination

[Anonymous No.56011255]

>>56011251
>>56011251
>>56011251
Janny

[Anonymous No.56011495]

>>56010155
Youngish (26).
I am gonna be a doctor in 3 years, good salary expected but not amazing since europoor.