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So when do the rate cuts start?
>>56006430Five years from now if we somehow solve the demographic problems.
hopefully never
>>56006430In the old days -- a few years ago -- the rule was to slam rates down to zero whenever there was some kind of "emergency" that made asset prices go down significantly.
>>56006430Housing is the only thing keeping inflation sticky because nobody wants to move and leave their 3% mortgage rate. The housing bubble doesn’t pop until rates get lowered and all these retards list their houses at the same time. It’s gonna be hilarious especially because boomers will have their life savings wiped out and the millennials who overpaid will have to come up with $100k just to sell their house and walk away with nothing. 2024 will be a shitshow for everything but the bull run is still on for 2025
>>56006436The demographic mess will not be solved in your lifetime. No change of plans. R* is still 0 and the Fed will need to go to -5% interest in order to keep this boomer debt system system afload
>>56006486I'll be ok in 2024.
>>56006504Based.
>>56006504Depends on if you’re a Lake Michigan Chad or a salt life subhuman
>>56006486Insanity means opportunity.I accumulate gold to hopefully turn it into property when the price shock comes.If not i have gold.
>>56006486nobody would sell their house at a major loss for literally nothing to end up living on the streets retard. use even just a small amount of logic please. in a scenario like that people with large outstanding debt will just hang onto what they have and the only loosening of the market will come from foreclosures from people who have fixed income whose fixed income can't keep up with inflation because the stock market their retirement is in crashed.
>>56006430You will be gaslit by the federal government and be happy.
>>56009356>just assumes the overabundance of retard tier jobs will continueOh no no no.
>>56006498There is an alternative
>>56006430When something breaks
>>56009951Lol no. As long as inflation is above target all there is are park your bonds with the fed for a little credit
>>56009849There are too many mechanisms that prevent something like this from happening now. The Fed isn't going to just stand by and watch 90% of the country's wealth evaporate.
>>56009849Will not be allowed to happen. It's always going to be :- CRISIS (drop money velocity)- drop rates to zero- reinflate bubble- lock down economic activity- pretend to do something about it when inflation rises- invent a new stealth QE facility- back to step 1 when debt markets start breaking
>>56009968Lol. You really believe the too big to fail memes? Tststs you got well brainwashed
>>56009968No amount of central planning can overcome free market forces. It's like man-made pavements being totally torn apart by the growth of large tree roots; you can't beat natural forces, only work with them.
>>56009984Brainwashed. There is no room for another china flu play. Trust is too far gone. And inflation is too high. The only play allowed without risking anarchy to take over and bankruns go wild, is a credit line for banks struggling with liquidity
They are basically permanent. The feds are sick of speculation in real estate, especially by small and middle sized investors. The banks don't care either way, they dabbled in the game a year ago and didn't like what they saw.This is a paradigm shift occuring in the real estate and housing markets. Its hard to say what ten years from now the world will look but as far as we are concerned right now these rates are going nowhere. They will probably continue to go up, actually.
>>56009999Yes checked. Dot plot says it all. And if inflation picks up again, as it does, Powell just says, data driven, another 25 bepis until moral is completely gone and scamstreet stops fighting the fed
>>56009997>is a credit line for banks struggling with liquiditySo more QE and more inflation then
>>56010085If you call that QE, what were the last 10 years then. This more a little QE drop that banks only take if absolutely necessary, not "free money". The only thing the fed does is take a few bank bonds, if it is absolutely necessary, while still cleaning the sheet of the old, not actively buying and not reducing rates or giving banks 0 capital reserve requirements. This is now the paradigm until 2% inflation and scamstreet stops fighting the fed
>>56006486Why would low rates pop the bubble, it will further increase it
This month will see a ton of new jobs as summer is ending and the new quarter starts soon.Biden will announce this as BIDENOMICS working. The fed will continue to raise rates. Manufacturing will continue to suffer as nobody in manufacturing can afford to move for better pay and retention rates for manufacturing is really shit to begin with.You guys don't understand how bad it is going to be.
>>56010150Everyone knows how bad its going to be when unemployment and underemployment reach that certain point. Its just that nobody knows what that point is, shit they barely know where we even are now.Right now its a game of hot potato. The Democrats just want to make it to the election before the timer hits zero and they'll do anything they can to make that happen. The Republicans were very eager to set this thing off now, but their early primary season is not going as planned.
>>56010148It's a retarded predictive programming attempt aka behaviorism. Spam the lie about line go up in the future no matter what, so drooler buy scamstreet bags. They paid journalists and other advertising whores millions to spread that lie all over the internet
>>56009968>There are too many mechanisms that prevent something like this from happening now.Which mechanisms are you talking about? I'd say it is the opposite. Too much QE has made it impossible to control the economy. The tech stocks are so overvalued, it's ridiculous.
>>56009356>pro meme coin trader comments on real world assetsWe need to require a business degree to post here
>>56006430Whenever it's gets close to the election and the ruling party needs people to feel richer. Although I have a feeling that Jerome Powell isn't exactly playing ball with the current admin.
>>56009984>invent a new stealth QE facilitythis literally already happened this cycle
>>56010199No. Mods just need to consequently ban every form of shilling. Mention the word crypto or a stock ticker, 30 day ban
>>56009999CheckedThe shift will start when people who want to sell or need to sell (moving for work, want to live elsewhere) will want to sell their home and there will be no buyers.If nobody is there to buy your home, is it really worth the Zestimate?
>>56010215That's not qeBut i suppose the hope of scamstreet baggies is to make that thought go around so somebody buys their bags. Because there is no liquidity. And banks are not using that mechanism like a free "money printer"
>>560064862 years ago: housing will drop when they raise rates. Now: housing will drop when they lower rates. You have no clue what you are talking about. Stop posting because you are just embarrassing yourself.
>>56006430How that looks for the whole yearEvery headline number published this year was a fraud
>>56010201A lot of the federal bureaucracy loathes the administration. Really the only thing going for the Biden right now is that Trump is currently leading the primary, though within the federal govt people are already looking back on 2016-2020 as the good ol days.It would've seemed impossible that the ensuing admin after Trump could result in an ever bigger crisis of credibility for the federal govt, but here we are. As bad as Trump was it never got nearly as vulgar and off-putting as picrel.Bureaucrats do not like having their credibility and authority eroded. At least during the Trump years there was some fear at what the federal govt might be capable of, they'd vastly prefer that to being a laughingstock.
>>56010246>b-b-but muh local fast food wagies are making $20/hr!!! the labor market must be so robust
>>56010246>Jobs numbers are down>Powell needs to cut rates fellow users>Please buy bags>Ignore inflation picking up>Pivooooooot everybodyGtfo
>>56006430>>56006430You don't like a particular number? Fine! We'll fire up the ol' AI and give you a number you like! That's what we do!
>>56010282>aiYou mean a digital mechanical turk that is dying from mad cow disease and requires 10000s of pajeet to unfuck and remap indexes? That's worthless
>>56010228>that's not a recession>that's not QEp l e a s e (in minecraft)
>>56006486Breh the UK banks have agrees not to seek repossession of hoomes for about a year. Every effort will be made to ensure hoomes retain their value. They will probably go up in price as rates come down. No reason not to.
>>56010380this is because home values in the UK are already going down. its an entirely different dynamic.
>>56009356Most people didn't buy the top, baggie, 95% of houses were purchased pre-2020
>>56006447thisi really don't see inflation or housing being fixed until interest rates hit double digitsof course that would bankrupt a shitload of companies who built their business model around rates of zero percentforget the unemployment rate, that number is irrelevantthe number to look at is the percent of the population employed full time, and that number is going to go WAY down
>>56010392>of course that would bankrupt a shitload of companies who built their business model around rates of zero percentaka "working as intended"there are pricisely two parts of the federal govt not answerable to the president or congress>scotus>fedand its not hard to see that they are acting in some level of concert with one another to royally fuck the post-2008 "recovery" dynamic against the wishes of the president and congress. I wouldn't be convinced its out of benevolence, either.
>>56010292>digital mechanical turkWhat does this even mean? Mechanical Turk was a human LARPing as a machine, whereas AI is just an actual machine. There's no comparison
Housing will not go down until there's more supplySo far we are short millions of houses in the USMillenials are now entering thir home buying yearsThe more loans are loaned into existence the more inflation of the monetary supply we getHouses are seen as hedges against inflationHousing prices will never go down until we start building more damn houses
>>56010248>Bureaucrats do not like having their credibility and authority erodedThen why did they rig the election for Biden? They wanted this clown/corpse show, to prove to Americans who is really in charge.
>>56010424Lol. You actually believe that? Lmfao you fell for the advertising. The thing with machine learning and indexing is that the indexes got totally fucked up and it requires by now human intervention to unfuck stuff like chat gpt. 10000s of slave workers from India, that in the background through third parties, remap the indexes, so they make sense again. It gets advertised as "remote data analyst" jobs at between $3 - $7/h
>>56010445there's actually plenty of homes relative to the amount of people who can actually afford themthere is indeed a shortage of homes if interest rates go back downno one living paycheck to paycheck can realistically afford a home, and that's like 50% or more of the population
>>56010445Lol. Sounds like the buttcorn pitch. Demographic is destiny, housing isn't a hedge, it's a cost
>>56006504Can I be a mate aboard your ship, preferably first mate?
>>56006486Housing will drop when the goverment stops mass importing browns, buying up homes for the browns and using white tax money to do this.
>>56010521Rates are going to rise as long as scamstreet and the government fights the fed. Powell has a mandate, price stability, and if scamstreet and the administration keep acting inflationary Powell is going to act deflationary Maybe going to see some north of 7% rates next year
>>56010150Go back to posting John Oliver memes on preddit, faggot.
I got pre-approved for a $400k mortgage with zero down for a first time home buyer. If I don’t buy now will I still be able to get mortgage after the crash?
>>56010571No
>>56010571anon, if you take that deal you are the crash.
>>56009951Winner
>>56010777Not if inflation is still not at target. You are huffing hopium. Advertising hopium
>>56010515
>>56010792Your meme image doesn't contain one relatable character. I don't know who any of those 4 is supposed to be
>>56009840>he thinks the government would actually let the masses sit idleThey'll subsidize uber eats jobs long before we reach that point.
>>56010863>Big daddy government is coming for my rescueLol there are really people believing this, you must be memeing
>>56010783You're too dumb to understand the concept of "when", you must be a nigger, they have difficulty with time.
>>56010496>no one living paycheck to paycheck can realistically afford a home, and that's like 50% or more of the populationyet they need somewhere to live where there are jobsthe thousands of beaners and africans that come into the US keep pressuring housing supply>>56010498You don't need crypto to live
>>56006430end of 2024
>>56010907If something "breaks" whatever that means and inflation isn't at target, there wont be a pivoooooot hopium huffer. There might be another credit line>>56010968Don't need a house either. Can live in a van, a tent, a hutt, a wine cellar... There are many different ways for shelter. A tarp can be enough The notion of everyone needs a house, is like diamond advertising. Only women and niggers fall for it
>>56010240exactly. meanwhile, in reality, there are a lot of people on the sidelines waiting to buy. im waiting to buy my second and third house.
>>56009968>stand by and watch 90% of the country's wealth evaporate.This supposed (((wealth))) never existed to begin with, it's just digits on a screen.
>>56011003you want reality? the reality is that if you cannot buy right now then sure as fuck won't be able to buy when the joblessness is hovering around 25% and the S&P is worth half what it is now.
>>56011003You likely don't even have one. You try to create consensus that "everyone" is waiting to buy bags
>>56011011why not? I have cash and great credit.>>56011016lol. just because you and everyone you know is broke doesnt mean that is reality.
>>56011018>why not? I have cash and great credit.strongly doubt on the cash or else you'd just buy the house. the credit barely matters, sub-700 can buy a house no down payment right now. we're in full 2006 mode and it'll only get more risky as the whole rotten system gets more and more desperate to find buyers to pump the numbers.
>>56011018I'm far from broke, but the last thing I would buy now is real estate. Not when boomers cost for medical are going through the roof and the world is looking at a generation cashing out with no generations behind taking up the slack
>>56010986>There might be another credit lineMight be LolGo look up what happened in 2008 and also 2020. I'm not claiming the exact same will happen, but they didn't step in with credit as quickly as you're suggesting.You're fucking new at this and it shows. Go look up how yield curves work and also how QE works after a recession, that anon is right, they only step in after something has materially broken.Powell has said in so many words that he is trying to create a recession. This is all intentional and planned. Your version would imply they don't intentionally break the economy.
>>56011031>strongly doubt on the cash or else you'd just buy the househouses are just sitting today. its a great time to wait and shop. im not in a rush. theres a good chance I can get a fantastic deal. A lot of people are in the black but still expecting more than they will actually get. great time for scoping things out while the fed continues to raise rates.>>56011032this is why immigrants are coming in and taking over for all of you worthless natives.
>>56010986>just live in the pod broyou are coping
>>56011032medicare/medicaid will cover the boomers with its final gaspmy dad didn't have any supplemental coverage, had two major operations (first one was 40k, second one was like 70k, he was billed some trivial amount, less than 2k)i was under the impression medicare only covered 80%, but apparently for hospital stuff it pays close to 100%
>>56011040In 2008 there was room to kick the canIn 2020 there was a giant play to reduce velocity so inflation won't blow out the budget into a sovereign debt crisisNow all cheat codes were used up and inflation is still highThere is no room for saving the pyramid scheme>>56011054>Please buy my bag or nigger buysNiggers don't have money, they live off welfare>>56011057Nom rent is cheaper than mortgage.
>>56011069Oh. So you are going the European road with boomers. Enjoy real debt to gdp levels of 500%+. There wont be room for an army or a police force The system is going to blow up in your face like in Europe. Germany is with boomers going out of production and the liabilities going bankrupt
>>56011107no choice, boomers made it that way
>>56011091I made this for you.
>>56011091long story short is the treasury dept will bail out banks (like they did with SVB) to delay the inevitable, but that's about the limit of their ability. there's no more juice to rescue the whole thing, they can't print their way out of it, it simply will not work. people are just going to have to take their medicine.
>>56010380It's in the banks best interest to have people stay in their homes so they keep on paying mortgage payments, this is why they advertised people to move to interst only payments if they are struggling with repayments. Nevertheless, the market is crashing since no one can afford high mortgage payments, people downsizing and BLT landlords selling up.
>>56011123the banks don't want people paying 3% mortgagesbetter to get them out so they can get new "owners" paying 2-3x
>>56011112It's not going to work out, the us losing its hegemony to take care of a generation of failures that sold the country out for s good feeling is going to kill your country and the bond market>>56011118The pyramid scheme is over. It's going to deterministically collapse. And if the US decides, it's more important to care for boomers health instead of securing hegemony it's going to get really ugly
>>56011130they are doing this with HELOC's. though the thing with the banks is their greed usually overpowers their prudence. there is no real grand plan here, the decision-makers are just looking to get their bonuses then pull the chord. let somebody else clean up the mess.
>>56011143>the pyramid scheme is overno, they just replace the boomers with immigrants you doomer retard. buy a house.
>>56009997Rumours abound they're about to restart lockdowns and vaccine pushes, especially in some of the more openly communist countries like Canada. Biden's outright said people are gonna get the jabs whether they like it or not.
>>56006436HAVE SEX
>>56011150No they can't and wont, and you can try to lie and lie and lie and lie over again, no it's not going to save the pyramid scheme from deterministically collapsing. Niggers in western countries don't recreate at the rate necessary, and that is beside the already extreme cleavages and low trust as ethnic conflicts rising
>>56011161They cant, it would end in hangings. That was a one time game. And as they failed to go lenin, and Instead opted for Gramsci, they fucked that up. Nobody believes them and they have by far not the trust anymore they had before that failed model
>>56011168You just continue to show how uneducated you are. Keep your pol crap in pol, retard.
>>56011193Oh how cute. Nigger the migrant play was already played once with dirt in the 70s. And it failed. The migrants didn't recreate at the necessary levels. The only being (((ignorant))) is you. The pyramid scheme collapses, boomers are too expensive and cash too much out, for a poor nigger or millennials genx and genz picking up the bags
>>56011200I refuse to believe you would talk to a human being like that in real life. do you ever self reflect?
>>56011210I do. I use the word nigger all the time. It's my favorite word and being an angry looking slav with broad shoulders, there is nobody that dares to fuck with me no matter what I say
>>56011193>>56011200yall niggers arguing on yall sail foams
>>56011216doubt
>>56011193You are uneducated. The limits of the system are being reached and what comes next isn't pleasant. I intend to orofit from this with investments in commodities, gold and silver.
>>56011260>source: trust me bro
>>56011267You could be more educated. Ignorance is a choice for most people.
>>56011243Not just saying nigger all the time in public, I regularly call for killing politicians and don't hold myself back shitting on jews, what should I be afraid of? Some twink lefty screeching, or a nigger niggering in ebonics? he gets a steak cap boot in the leg as a warning
>>56011260>>56011267Its true. Especially for Africa
>>56011267You’re a dumb fucking nigger. You don’t know a damn thing about macroeconomics and you should fucking hang yourself
>>56011279Somebody call the based police, this guy is unfathomable based. Just do what needs to be done and don't get caught my guy.
>>56011277The end of the Assyrian world, yes. He was right. It was the end of his world.Much the same as the West today.
>>56010878>my rescuelol lmao even
>>56011302(((Ray Dalio))) calls it a Big Reset. You'll own nothing and be happy. I intend to own stuff and be happy.
>>56011292In my country, the police force has lost over the past 2 years 6000 agents. Half quit the job because of shit pay, extreme workload due to migrants and the government being globalist whores, the other half were boomers that went into retirement. We had 50k cops before the china flu game, we now have about 43k for a population of 3m
>>56011313UK?
>>56010792It's amazing what people will agree to when you don't actively rob them of their freedoms.
>>56011313>>56011323Nevermind didn't read the 3m part
>>56011323Austria. Serb mafia runs the streets now
>>56011313Yes, these are signs that we are in a Systems Collapse, much like the late Roman Empire. The sub-optimal solution is to live in walled compounds in the countryside until the urban centers are depopulated. Better yet, live in a low-crime country, a strategy suggested in detail in Doug Casey's International Man.
>>56011311That's a good plan anon but society collapsing around you will affect you no matter how many gold pieces or electronic coins you own.
>>56011339I mean if you are a pussy, hide, I enjoy the decline. It's fun in the heart of the decline, having a front row seat watching the tower of Babel come down and burying the old order beneath it. See ya faggots time to hit the streets
>>56011342Self sufficiency is good to a point but some of us are too poor, sickly, or old to make a really good run at it. Sadly, some may not make it. As crime gets worse some of us may fall victim to severe injury or death. All that we can do is the best we can to better ourselves and if possible, limit charity to our tribal in-groups as the battle for survival gets more intense. We will emerge on the other side wealthier or we will persish having tried our best.
>>56011279I mean, you can say whatever you want in your moms basement, I guess. So you do you, and make sure you make your mother proud.>>56011284>>56011282again, immigrants will pick up the bags of the worthless gen x and millenials in the US. I cant speak for the rest of the world.why will this happen? Well specifically because in the US we have been reduced faggots crying about how unfair things are actively trying to tear down the system.All while the rest of the world deals with ACTUAL problems.
>>56011360Some men want to watch the world burn. We salute you. I will buy up the ashes, fire-sale prices!
>>56010424There are people on /x/ who believe ChatGPT is just a lot of indian call center reps copy pasting paragraphs from google.
>>56010445'no'. "Inventory" (ie houses for sale) is low, total units are not low, prices won't crash because they've risen due to debasement, but supply is not an issue
>>56006473yes. they will cut rates in response to a "Totally Unforeseen" emergency like a pandemic or chinese real estate developer debt-induced worldwide economic crash and then, the hyperinflation
>>56009997if they release bird flu or a covid variant with 3%+ fatality rate, yes there will be more room for another china flu play.
>>56010485Yeah I do believe it because I can download and run models offline and I'm pretty sure there's no Indian inside my computer making that work. ChatGPT isn't the only AI that exists
>>56011193Importing 70 IQ Africans will not stimulate a modern economy. You are the one that is uneducated here.
>>56011697>every immigrant is uneducated
>>56011179You're an absolute mouthbreathing retard if you believe this. Has the past 3 years shown you nothing? The cattle is well and truly broken. There is no human soul left, except in a few insignificant places. When they announce the lockdowns again, the vast majority of people will go back to social distancing, wearing masks and getting their booster shots. There will be no mass uprising - only a select few autists who speak out and who will be quashed before they can infect the sheep with wrongthink.
>>56011699We have spent generations of space programs worth of money to niggers for 200 years in the US and they are still a giant net loss. The worst possible thing you can do to a nation is import more of them. You are insanely stupid.
>>56011760>niggers are immigrantslol. lmao even. Definitely a burger education.
>>56011766Thanks for confirming that you're a fucking retard.
>>56011777please tell me how many niggers immigrated this year
>>56011777Here you go retard. Nigs are already here and its our inherent problem. they dont immigrate here. immigrants are a net benefit to america. now go fuck your cousin.
>>56006430Dumb ESL here. What does that number mean?
>>56011161You're a fucking retard, even in libshit cities businesses that required vax proof were decimated, the only reason any of that shit flew at all was the free money being handed out to toe the line
>>56011704Two year global full press propaganda campaign got 70% (maybe, if you believe their numbers) compliance, that's the same proportion that mindlessly takes the flu shot every, two years of non-stop propaganda achieved NOTHING, didn't even budge the needle, and that was with a multi-trillion dollar warchest to play with, trying lockdowns now would be a HUMILIATING statist defeat, would take GENERATIONS for the State to regain legitimately
>>56010571>0% down on 400k at these ratesImagine the interest payments.
>>56009968the purchasing power of the dollar has diminished over 90% since the fed's inseption in 1929. Thats 90% wiped out, now its just a matter of another 9 percent
>>56011809why do spics commit more crimewhy do spics have a higher unemployment ratei wont deny that brain drain is a net benefit but nobody is complaining about the top 1% of every country coming here, they are talking about the hordes of illegals and "refugees" being imported. literally nobody complaining about immigration is going to have a problem with a doctor coming in legally, what they will complain about is hordes of 70iq subhumans flooding in
>>56011704Lol. 250k people on the streets of Vienna vs. 48k cops. The state lost all legitimacy. It's hanging times, the people want blood! And their is no loyal army to protect the globalization scammers. For now its fist in the pocket talking about a revolution. It's not far to Irlmaier becoming a reality. The politicians and state apparatus that grifted for 90 years wants still out productivity they get the noose and burning down their rome!
>>56012638ultimately we need those illegals and refugees, whether you like it or not. you and your family arent picking our fields. and there are plenty of immigrants coming through with foreign education. its a net benefit, especially when you have native (white) americans who are actively fighting against the system that benefits them too.
>>56012677the argument of "they're doing the jobs that nobody else wants to do!" stops working when you look at employment numbers and see that spics have a higher unemployment rate
>>56012702you dont understand unemployment numbers.
>>56012677picking what fields?agriculture is mechanized
>>56012677>ultimately we need those illegals and refugeesFunny how everything was better in every western country before they came here. Seems we managed better without them.
>>56012724not yet, no.>>56012735>before they came herewhen was that exactly?
>>560127382011That's when the "colored revolution" cia funded migration shit got put into high frequency to keep the rehypotecization scam alive, after the sovereign debt crisis that should have killed the bankster and finance jew scam from the 80s
>>56012756You think that there werent illegals in america before 2011?Can I ask how old you are?
>>56012677 Bullshit. Things would have balanced out organically. If it costs $400 to get your lawn mowed you’re gonna do it yourself until the price dips.
>>56012769you dont pay 400$ to get your lawn mowed. stop with the pearl clutching.
Man, I'm so glad I closed out my margin position. The future is gonna suck and the rates are gonna go higher again.
>>56012757Oh there were, but it was all in the frame. Nothing too crazy. But with 2011 it got send into hyper drive, the new liberal retardation got expanded to muslims. Before it was mostly christian illegals, but from 2011 on they started to import massive amounts of towel heads
>>56012677
>>56012786honestly if you think about it, you are the real jew. you are cheering the downfall of america as a bearfaggot, knowing that what im saying, immigrants, is the only way that america doesnt crash. you'd rather see blood in the streets so you can succeed, because you havent ever succeeded in life before.>>56012785thats also when the birth rate started declining. maybe you should have sex
>>56012814>Make slaves so my boomer ponzi doesn't collapseGet fucked. First collapse, then we might think about repopulation. But not until the 2008 scammers got publicly hanged and quartered
>>56010380>Breh the UK banks have agrees not to seek repossession of hoomes for about a year.didn't this happen everywhere during COVID? it's the reason there are less and less legal auctions in my country...
People seem to forget that new home construction ramped up like crazy this year because nobody wants to sell their current home and lose their low mortgage interest rate. It takes about six months to build a single family home. If these high mortgage rates persist for a few years the supply of homes will dramatically increase. This means when interest rates eventually go back down the locked-in homeowners will be forced to sell into a weak market where housing demand has already been satisfied and home prices will decline.
>>56012842>First collapseyou're making the mistake of thinking there will be a big mega collapse. there doesnt have to be. or, stay in your mamas basement.
>>56012814>immigrants, is the only way that america doesnt crashOR OR OR, White Americans start pumping out babies like after WW2 again through tax incentives like they do in Hungary, which would be a lot cheaper than paying for all these wetback leeches whom you love to fellate, also McNeck yourself
>>56012856There had to be. What are children faggot? What have children be for millennias? Yes, capital, if therebis other capital, like a ponzi scheme or a pyramid scheme, that is driven by future debt, it becomes irrational to have children. There is no other way. And it should have happened in 2008
>>56012856Also stop projecting, I have my own wine cellar I rebuild into a home. And tonight I had sex, with a condom, you had not
>>56012866>white americans pump babies outyeah lets just bank on 18 years of investment strategy to pay out. retard. lmfao.>McNeck yourselfahahahah>>56012870what is a birth rate crisis and hence the entire reason we are talking about this issue. >>56012887tonight I had sex without a condom. I busted all up in her pussy.
>>56012890Yeah you had not. You have posting non stop faggotYou really don't get it, the boomer hubris about muah wealth based on debt is the reason for the birth crisis since the 1960s. If it wasn't for that disgusting draft dodging after us the flood generation, we wouldn't have any of the problems. That generation needs to be sacrificed and all there wealth on debt destroyed, else its over
>>56012909>disgusting draft dodginglike you'd go running into ukraine, faggot. i'm so tired of you people talking so much shit, and being absolutely empty. Did you enlist?
>>56012845The rates are simply not going to go back down though. The Fed knows that the instant they lower them all the home supply will gobbled up by speculative investors and turned into airbnb's or rental units. Then you get the wild mania and runaway prices. This is why the fed is going to keep pumping rates, even as supply catches up the rates will continue to rise.They are trying to crush the small time real estate investor and decouple (at least as much as they can) the fate of the housing market from the fate of the overall American economy. This is what they mean by soft landing. Can they tank the housing market enough to drive out speculative investors and mom and pop short-term rentals without tanking the overall American economy?We'll find out. I'm not terribly optimistic.
>>56012914Why should I? A proxy war for saving the debt based new liberal retardation scam? You don't get it, you need to be bankrupted, like the entire rest of the west, than it might restart, but as it looks like, the boomers want to be buried with their gold, stolen through collateralization of assumed future productivity and reproduction rate that never happened.
>>56012909>disgusting draft dodging>>56012925>Why should I?LMAO
>>56012925So you didnt enlist, but you give people shit for dodging a draft? Thats fucking shady bud.I am probably the same generation as you but im not such a fucking coward. >>56012930im glad someone else sees the irony here.
>>56012930You are mentally challenged and afraid to lose your stolen value. Okay. Then its a continuation of what is happening, more anarchy until it happened naturally. Fucking hippy scammer kumbaya liberal retard boomers
>>56012943you are a fucking coward. I bet you larp as some militant fuck on your facebook.
>>56012933I give them shit for playing hippies that became scamming yuppies. And literally stole their childrens and great grand childrens future for a pyramid scheme with reak estate
>>56012949Oh are you a bot? A stinking provocation bot? Get fucked, the evolution is deterministic. The trust levels wont increase, the legitimacy of the state decline, the profit margins breaking away while a generation of geriatric scammers clinges on their debt based wealth until the grave, stealing from the next 50 years
>>56011697Be careful with those dangerous thoughts goyim, -10 social credit
>>56012957>>56012951no, i'm calling you a coward because you are so quick to judge people who dont want to go to war but are being forced to, yet you wont enlist yourself.and the fact that you don't even understand the irony is even more poetic. it just kind of shows a lack of intelligence.
The boomer legacy is going to be the generation responsible for the dead of the western hegemonyAnd their designated heirs, pink haired marxist freaks are the last able to save the west, no they will try to continue the grift that run long into a wall
>>56011814There’s multiple numbers dumb shit. Google translate to your native tongue.
>>56012968Please define right wing and left wingI have a feeling I speak to a drooling retardProof me wrong
>>56012981I think we all know you are a retard lol.
>>56012988So you can't.>WeYep retard detected. You and I exist, not a we
>>56012464Holy fuck you’re retarded. You can cut a cake and half and and cut a half in half. Doesn’t mean it’s equal, but there’s still some there
>>56012933>im glad someone else sees the irony here.I mean, it's a well known fact that "military loving" faggots are the ones that wouldn't go to war if they lives depended on it. there are well many songs about it:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7qkQewyubs>>56012943do you know what IDs are, retard? how new r u?>You are mentally challengedlol. lmao
>>56012990have sex (without a condom) to procreate. you know, like what you preach. retard.
But hey, I'm sure that a 5% part of the population, drooling marxist brainwashed idiots ate going to be able to continue the boomer legacy, and when the boomer die, they hang for them
>>56012995well, i'm not pretending like I would. he is. hes the one giving people shit for 'draft dodging' while simultaneously saying he wouldnt enlist. That isnt my point.>>56012998>passive aggressive faggotyou get absolutely zero pussy. that is a fact.
>>56012677What in the Canadian tier bullshit it this opinion? You’re a great argument for abortion
>>56012996>Please make children for the ponziWhy should I? You are going to keep running the pyramid scheme, so it's more rational to play the pyramid scheme for capital accumulation Do you get it now retard?
>>56013002yeah we wouldnt if you faggots would have sex. but unfortunately...>>56012890
>>56012776He is arguing that we don’t need a spic army of landscapers in our country you moron
>>56013005just do the shortcut and kys. you sound like a miserable fuck.
>>56013002He is the happa that spams this board. Tamilian tiger he calls himself, not sure if he hasn't transitioned yet
>>56013013yeah like you or your non existant children are going to do any work>>56013017take your condom off and have sex. put your fucking dick where your mouth is you fucking nigger.
>>56013015You are too stupid to understand the argument happa..go back to china
>>56013023>happa>chinado you even know what you are talking about>no
>>56013025Go back to china happa
>>56013027happas are fucking southeast asian you fucking retard. holy shit.
>>56013031You are too stupid too realize yourself. This is a song for the death Worship it
>>56013000>well, i'm not pretending like I would. he is. hes the one giving people shit for 'draft dodging' while simultaneously saying he wouldnt enlist. That isnt my point.exactly my point. I didn't read your whole convo, but I understand his reasons, and I even agree with saying that I wouldn't go to war for neolibs to profit, but then... I wouldn't say other people SHOULD enlist, or that dodging was a bad thing. of course some people think they are so morally above others that THEY should die for them lol>>56013005jfc... do you not notice your own cognitive dissonances? how do you even live with that shit? do you have to take pills to behave well or something?
>>56013037im pointing out his cognitive dissonnance...exactly as you are...enlisting is being willing to go to war if necessary. that is equal to rising the the call of the draft. thats my point. I dont see why you dont understand that.>point2he is absolutely tanked.
>>56013037You don't get it either. Children are capital not needed, as long as the pyramid scheme is kept running. Extreme real estate prices beat making children. Real estate too high in relation too wages, irrational to make children
>>56013059>I wont have kids to own the libsyou dont even know how much joy kids bring to your life. because you are a miserable fuck.
You too are obviously marxists. And like every marxist you can't inti basic economic
>>56013062>MARXIST MARXIST MARXISTsuch a fucking faggot. you dont even know what that means. mental illness on full display. get the fuck over yourself.
>>56013061Not to own. It's economically irrational you idiot. If the pyramid scheme collapses, it becomes rational again. Not just the real estate pyramid scheme, but the entire socialist social security pyramid scheme
>>56013051I'm just saying I agree with what you say.of course these retarded wannabe nazi /pol/tards don't live in the actual reality nor understand society and aren't willing to sacrifice for what they say. at MOST they will shoot random brown/black people or even their own fellow whites because>muh librulskek
>>56013070or you could just have sex lol.
>>56013066Yes, you are a marxist that believes likely in the retardations of common goods, on debt
>>56013080define marxist, or dont ever use it here again.
>>56013074I have sex, just not for making children. Why don't you make 10 children marxist and enslave them for your ponzi
>>56013082A retard that believes that value = work, which is bullshit
>>56013093>A retard that believes that value = work, which is bullshitHAHAHAHAHAdo you really not realize that the ones running this ponze are EXACTLY the ones that oppose such beliefs? and indeed, they are right... because they devalue the work most people do and manipulate the whole system for their own profit.holy fuck, 4chan is a whole parallel world, full of absolute fucking RETARDS
>>56013088>>56013093you are such a retard it hurts.I want everyone to understand that I am the solar EV nigger and you agree with this obvious tinfoil absolute 60IQ nigger. fucking /smg/ is a joke.
>>56013105No they believe exactly that. The entire pyramid scheme runs according to the false assumption, that future productivity (work) and reproduction rate can be used to collaterize their ponzisAlsoTell me marxist, why don't you have 10 children to keep your ponzi alive? Did you cut off your dick already?
>>56013115Stop fucking talking. or cut your own dick off for the good of humanity. holy fucking shit.
>>56013116So you cut your dick off already and hope somebody else picks up the slack and makes children to finance your hrt?
>>56013119>cut your dick off>cut your dick off>cut your dick offthe absolute state of conservacucks
>>56010841Holy shit imagine not knowing who based Griz isAbsolutely kill yourself. You know how I know you’re a fat fucking piece of shit?
>40 posts by this boomer klepto cryptojew who NEEDS america to get beaned so his number go up
>>56013128without beaners and subsidies your cost of life would be even higher, and without imported brains, your whole country would be NOTHING lol
>>56013120Define right wing and left wingYou can't because you got brainwashed by marxist lecturers while you huffed your farts and cut off your dick for privileges financed by assumed future productivity and reproduction rate that never happened because you cut off your dick
>>56013128do you have anything to actually say or are you just trying talk to feel important because you have nothing real to say?>>56013139i'm just going to define a retard which = you.
>>56009356When the Chinese and Indians stop pumping money into the real estate market everyone will realize how over leveraged they are. I have no idea when it will happen but it will happen and It's not going to be pretty.
>>56013143You literally can't. How sad is this. A 50 year old childless tranny dependent on somebody else potential children getting enslaved. Kys boomer
>>56013151>jump through this hoop>hahah you cantyou have already demonstrated how much of a retard you are, I dont need to do any tricks for you.
>>56013154No you can't. And you are deflecting as you know that the definition you are going to give to keep the marxist brainwashing intact is getting laughed at
>>56013159you've already been laughed at a few timed ITT.
Come on boomer. You have two choices. Getting bankrupted or making it rational again to have children. We both know what way you takeThe way you took your entire lifeThe pyramid scheme into the grave
actual political discussion on 4chan is impossible, because these retards live in a made up reality, where joos and "marxists" (whatever that means) are to blame for everything, while actual financial manipulators are the most obvious people: the rich.>inb4 the rich are jewish marxistsyeah, ok retard. go back.
>>56013172he really needs to go back to pol. I hate jannies but this political bullshit needs to gtfo.
>>56013172I gave s definition. Marx entire mistake was his retarded labor theory of valueThat got used as an argument to collaterize future productivity for debt, because in the msrxist school, every work is value, which is retarded
>>56013182we talk about finance here. I dont think anyone is a 'marxist'. we are all capitalists.btw your definition of marxism is absolute fucking shit. stop throwing it around like you know what you are talking about.
>>56013203Define capital. And if you actually read marx, you would know, in the wider sense, he was a capitalist as well , just a stupid one
>>56013182>I gave s definition. Marx entire mistake was his retarded labor theory of valueyou gave a definition and then came up with some criticism on that definition while not realizing the very same people who follow the "work != value" are the ones sucking the blood of workers by leeching off them.>That got used as an argument to collaterize future productivity for debtMarx came up with a theory to destroy capitalism. the fact that rentiers and other social scum used his theory doesn't mean marxists/communists support speculators, rentiers and other scum.oh, and american liberals aren't marxists, communists or left-wing. even by european standars (the ones that came up with most of the political definitions we all use now), US liberals = right-wingI think that 4channers are too fucking stupid to see the brainwashing...
>>56013214look, this is your one and only time htat I am going to do one of your tricks. Capitalism is making a profit off of eficiency. Capital is your ability to make that happen. Now please fuck off with your diminuistic definition of marxism or any -ism. You have half-assed every conversation in this thread.
>>56013223You never read your own bibleTypical marxist
>>56013214>he was a capitalist as well , just a stupid onean anti-capitalist that analyzed the system he wanted to destroy was a capitalist?the shit one has to read in this forum kek
>>56013227Not capitalism. Define capital Also your definition of capitalism is retarded, and not sma definition, just screeching
>>56013237>Capital is your ability to make that happen.you cannot fucking read can you?Whats your definition of capitalism? you are such a nigger.
>>56013231You changs got really fucked in the head. No wonder, that china is getting fucked hard. Read your own bible
>>56013136ah yeah, beaners and subsidies and skilled migrants are the only way America has survived the past 300 years, makes sense if you're a retarded faggot with a myopic view of history ignorant of everything that isn't contemporary>>56013143>feel>talk>sayYou're a retarded woman so you can't read, but I'll try again: There are examples of ways to encourage natalism and mitigate the "need" for migrants, which isn't a need but a want. Increase in profit or standard of living doesn't exist in a vacuum. That babies take time to group up and begin working doesn't mean it's not an option instead of beaning America. Retard.
>>56013241You are really a drooling, mouth breathing mentally challenged idiotCapital= value preservedExample: corn in a siloNow it's enough laughing about childless marxist scum like you
>>56013246except there is a very real workforce problem, retard. Now.>>56013252you didnt define capitalism. capital is your ability to make things happen, hence value. thats what I said. you like to throw around buzzwords and act like thats a win. You're probably 5 foot 4 and 'can bench a 45 caliber' lmfao.
>>56013258Go back to onion farms and play with Karl
>>56013246>ah yeah, beaners and subsidies and skilled migrants are the only way America has survived the past 300 yearsno, america used to survive by forcing whole nations to work for you. that's not enough now, your beloved leaders now have to manipulate economic statistics and import both the best and the cheapest from the countries they enslaved in the past because the american empire can't keep growing forever
>>56013128Kek no shit. Really derailed the thread. What a colossal faggot
>>56013281you faggots just wont accept reality. instead we have 500 threads on 'mega crash coming lul 2 more weeks'
>>56011766They're a jewish import along with foreskin munching and White bashing
>>56006430>>56006486The only rates that matter are bond yields. If the fed dropped interest rates to 0% tomorrow, banks would still only loan mortgages at a rate higher than bond yields. Even then, if bond yields plummeted, youre now in competition with a pent up market that will drive home prices even further up. We have nowhere near enough developers to meet pent up demand, let alone future demand growth. The housing market will be in a deep freeze for years to come.
>>56013258>except there is a very real workforce problem, retard. Now.And importing beaners, not even beaners but salvadorans who can't speak English let alone do skilled labor won't solve that problem, retard. This isn't 1980 and letting Mexicans in to pick fruit, this is a labor shortage of airline pilots and management. Let's fix the problem the right way instead of taking shortcuts and kicking the can down the road like boomer retards.>>56013267Sounds like either 3rd world or Europoor cope. We survived with natural resources, manufacturing, and invention and innovation the likes the world had never seen since the Romans and not again since the 3rd Reich. Fuck off back to leftypol.
>>56012677No you fucking don't and never have. Get rid of all the parasitic mouth breathing mud people. A country of just White US stock would do infinitely better.
>>56006486Delusional
>>56013308...actually yes it will. you're wrong.>>56013312you arent going to pick the cotton nigger. one day you wont be a retard and you will understand. or you'll talk to actual farmers.
>>56013323Without a billion niggers and spics Whites would be paid a very good rate per hour for doing that work- and they would. Think Japan you fucking faggot.
>>56013328ah, right. theyll magically be able to pay you 50/hr to pick blueberries because the mexicans are gone
>>56013335Yes. This is basis economics. And you billions and trillions of $ wouldn't be pissed down the drain on welfare, the justice system because there would be a massive decline in crime etc etc.
>>56013308>We survived with natural resourcesexploited by literal slaves>manufacturingwhich enslaved actual whites until workers realized capitalism is a scam, which meant gaining rights... until scummy politicians that serve speculators and rentiers came, whiped out most of your industries and started exporting it to china>invention and innovationmostly started and sometimes directly stolen from europeanscope some more, retard
>>56013346americans wont even do comfy cashier positions for 20 an hour right now. you really think they will pick fields. you are delusional. keep in mind illegals are paid 5 bucks an hour right now so 20 is 'infinitely more'
>>56013346>>56013358OR your dollars will be devalued to the point that 50/hr will be poverty tier.or maybe they will simply automate everything and most people (even the whites you people talk so much about) will live off welfare because there won't be enough jobs for everyone
>>56013404>automated farmstechnology isnt that far but you need production and finance to come into play before workforce can be replaced. and that wont be small>whites running automated farmsthe above is pretty far off. legistlature + research+production gives a ton of time but obviously a possibility. just have to avoid daca legitimization.>devalued dollarwell planning around that is why we are all here isnt it
>>56013358>comfy>cashierAmazing bait but you went too far with this one.
>>56013452>baitas if the retard talking about americans WANTING to work farm jobs wasnt bait enough.
>>56011260i thought we produced food in vast surplus? isnt that why orchards and exotic fruit farms can exist?
>>56013358Now what country are you posting from I wonder. It's certainly not America. Middle East? Maybe somewhere more exotic.
>>56013513country? texas.
>>56013306The only true post in this thread
>>56006430So you just report a number and then (((revise))) it by 50% later after everyone has moved on. Can anyone explain to me how we aren't a communist shithole at this point?
It's always going to be inflation/bailout rather than depression
>>56012920The government is now spending more on interest payments than defense. There is only one way out of this, which is more debasement and/or lower rates
>>56010219They already do that. That's why there are only 20 people left on this board
>>56006486>the millennials who overpaid will have to come up with $100k just to sell their houseWhy would they want to sell their (only) house? For what purpose?
>>56009999>The feds are sick of speculation in real estateWhat makes you think the feds give a single fuck about it?
>>56010220>who want to sell or need to sell (moving for work, want to live elsewhere)What stops them from renting out the house, or letting it sit empty? What's the incentive to sell at a loss, only to have to buy back in at triple the interest rate of one's current mortgage?
>>56007788>goldGreat way to turn 1k into 1k.
>>56010521You're a fucking white trash retard. How about build more houses? White trash.
>>56006561>Lake.>Needs to be restocked.>Ocean.>Endless fishing. Go away.
>>56010186>Spam the lie about line go up in the future no matter what,You're a fucking idiot and they fed will keep printing money.Go away.
>>56010186>Muh uni party!Sure thing.Republicans and Democrats serve Israel.
>>56010219>Mention the word cryptoKill yourself, burnout.>>56010228>Because there is no liquiditySays who? You? White trash, there's liquidity in the markets, no one wants to buy if the market is gonna take soon.
>>56013261Why waste your time those anons the benefit of the doubt.>57 pbtid>13 pbtidDaily reminder that most shills on this site are professional Israeli.https://pastebin.com/edUqQV1ehttp://www.thejidf.orghttps://act-il.com/https://youtu.be/7dGJDJoeAok>wikipedia editinghttps://youtu.be/tYleadaZ8vM>JIDF shill recruitment videohttps://youtu.be/dQqZf9nbjHw>jew shill operation centerhttps://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/15/revealed-disinformation-team-jorge-claim-meddling-elections-tal-hanan
>>56012914>VietnamPreventing commies ideology from spreading>UkraineMaking Jews in the government and Defense contractors billions
>>56014513Because it isn't jidf. It's legit drooling retards, herded, groomed and brainwashed in shitcords made believe they are "fighting the good fight"
>>56006486This is the dumbest post I've read in a while>>56013136And this is the most jewish thing I've read in a while. No you fucking kike rat that's not how it works. All that having a massive work force does is water down wages for everyone else and keep profits higher for those at the top. Things can't just magically cost more they can only cost as much as they can so that people will still buy them and guess what genius everything already costs that much. The only times they don't are when a product is new to market and needs to generate sales to get some recognition, when a product has the market cornered, or when a product is made for specifically for a government contract but some units are allocated to the civilian market but ultimately it doesn't matter if anyone buys them or not. So once again you massive faggot, no, you are wrong and if we didn't have tens of millions of spics living here there would be far less of a wealth disparity. .
>>56009993>No amount of central planning can overcome free market forcesFucking kek. We've had a centrally planned economy for a very long time. There's nothing free market about our economy.
>>56010841>can't into contextYou are one dumb gorilla nigger
>>56012980It is American lingo you dumb fucking cunt. There is no direct translation to other languages. I guess this number indicates how many non farming jobs were added to the economy.
>>56010479>Then why did they rig the election for BidenThe rig every election since ancient Greece you tard.
>>56015167And it failed Everytime Responsible for unfathomable amounts of dead humans that make wars look like gentleman duels
>>56015461Present day US is a centrally managed corporatist oligarchy. The kind of government you libertarian blowhards all secretly salivate over. So what's your problem? You didn't make enough riches to be part of the club?
>>56010968>the thousands of beaners and africans that come into the US keep pressuring housing supplyNah it's actually a lack of housing. Most people are LEAVING the US.
>>56010968>>56010968>You don't need crypto to liveCrypto has been making me money.You sound like a ugly retard.
>>56010986>Don't need a house either. Can live in a van, a tent, a hutt, a wine cellar... There are many different ways for shelter. A tarp can be enoughNo you can't unless you own land and even then the town need to approve of your dwelling. You 4chan autistic fucks are dumb beyond all means.>Dude just live in a tent.Lmao, see you this winter.
>>56015677>Most people are LEAVING the US.You saying that there is a net loss of population due to migration? Should be easily provable.
>>56006430>So when do the rate cuts start?I assume whenever the Fed thinks that lowering rates won't just have us relapse into high inflation. I'm not sure how they will determine that, but it would be interesting to find out. I'm not sure we will see 0% for a very, very long time. Probably a very slow taper with some backpedalling occasionally.
>>56015760Newest dot plot says final rate between 6% and 7% until 2025, with Powell having said something about next year revisiting possible reduction if the data allows it. Looking at how the government and scamstreet fight the fed, the next dot plot is going to see a final rate between 9% and 12% with it running into 2028
>>56015776>the government and scamstreet fight the fedCould you elaborate on this? Do you mean they try to game off of and outmaneuver actions by the fed? Or something else?
>>56015800Scamstreet tries to use advertising and mass media behaviorism to sell bags, bait retail liquidity and keep line stable while interest rates and other factors would suggest correction in equities as real estate and commodities. The government keeps doing inflationary policies and emits debt on future generations heads, though it would be rational to go for austerity They are both fighting the fed that tries to curb their grift, and driving on inflation in an attempt to keep their grifts of line go up lol, profitable
>>56010424I don't usually post on /biz/ but this forced my hand. you fucking retard. Do you actually think AI is real? Holy shit people are fucking stupid.
>>56016198It's crazy isn't itThey believe AI is real, crapto isn't just a shit database and that real estate and equities just naturally go up lolIt's truly Idiocracy
>>56010571this >>56010663Take the deal. Fulfill the prophecy. Encourage your friends and family to do the same as well.
>>56016184I am going to try and translate what you are saying into words I understand, please correct me where I go wrong>Investment firms use advertising tricks to lure in money from normies to pump up asset prices, whereas this is the opposite of the intended effect of the Fed's recent policies (ie real estate and commodities should be trending downward with higher interest rates). Further, rather than tackling underlying solvency issues the government just kicks the can down the street rather than do unpopular bu necessary corrective actions.If any of that is wrong, please tell me. I am obviously not a finance guy and I just like to understand the world/history. If true, and my interpretation accurate, it seems like we have a conflict between short and long term health of the economic system. The time horizon of politicians is very short in the greater picture, it makes sense that they act like craven cowards.
>>56016258Yes that's I'm saying. And as Powell is independent and Punished Powell is a political scientist autist following his data driven approach, it's going to end in a catastrophic melt down of public order and economy in the mid termAnd of course it's rational from their short term perspective
>>56016223I haven't read enough Adam Smith to comment on real estate or equities but AI and crypto is truly the scam of the century.
>>56006486>Everyone would sell their house at the same time>What do you mean Why? >THEY JUST WILL, OK?!
>>56016370Same mechanics that made crapto line go up is responsible for equities and real estate line go up, hasn't so much to do with Adam, but more with Barney and Gramsci
>>56016430Makes sense from a theoretical standpoint which is further demoralizing.
>>56016809It is what it is, the only silver lining at the horizon is that the economic model in the background makes having children irrational as they are inferior capital for the individual compared to the pyramid scheme, and naturally leads to the pyramid scheme deterministically collapsing because the models are build on the assumption of infinite growth, which, with no children being born breaks
What in the goddamn is this thread?
>>56015776Where are you seeing this? The fed funds rate target on the high side is projected at 4% by the end of 2025.
>>56016998Yeah, and the dot plot before was final rate between 4% and 5%That was 1.5 years ago, 1.5 years of inflation driving by government and scamstreet
>>56011003This logic doesn't hold when the prices start to drop. Where are all of the real estate moguls swooping in on sagging home prices in SF down 5-10+% YoY? Psychologically, when prices start to fall, the market becomes completely unattractive. RED = BAD. Nobody will buy until consensus says the market is "good" again. GREEN = GOOD. And so when (not if) the housing market crashes, nobody is going to touch that shit with a 10 foot pole. Most people claiming they are waiting for their dream home are going to rent, which is always the prevailing sentiment when real estate isn't FOMO. "Why would I tie myself down to some junk house for 30 years when rent is so cheap? Teehee." It's an endless cycle.
>>56006447you still believe in fiat?
>>56015677>lack of housingbecause everything gets bought up by speculators and the shitskins constantly flooding in
>>56012738>not yet, no.where do you live that agriculture isn't 90% done with heavy machinery? you're indian or something?
>>56017112people are buying, just at a lower rate. and SF is the highest price market in the country so yeah, there are better price points. In my neighborhood, in texas, they are still building new homes and they are still being sold. I see new sold signs and new families moving in every week.>>56017142>not yet, nomeaning, the technology isnt there yet but that doesnt mean its impossible. https://modernfarmer.com/2023/04/electric-tractors-are-rolling-out-in-the-field-heres-what-that-could-mean-for-farmers/please stop being such a faggot.
>>56016917The Ukrainian women should solve that since they're being cattled in by the thousands while also receiving infinite benefits from the government.
>>56012677If there were no Mexican farm/orchard workers, orchards would have to pay citizens $25 per hour which would result in apples being $8 per lb in the store which would be a small price to pay for not having 30 million smelly Mexicans shitting up the country.Also it would encourage research and investment into finally mechanizing orchard work, which has lagged behind the rest of agriculture due to it being pretty tricky and also there's no reason to bother because people can just pay Mexicans to do it.
>>56017163>pay citizens $25 per hourfarms cant afford that, and your lazy white ass isnt working in 110 degree texas heat for 25 bucks an hour, regardless.
>>56017178>farms cant afford thatThey would if they were selling their product at 4x the present value, which is what would happen if they had to pay citizens for their labor instead of illegal migrants under the table. Do you not understand how supply and demand works?
>>56017189And yes obviously many farms would go out of business if that happened because the demand for those products would settle out much lower than they are today, but I don't give a shit because I don't run an orchard but I'm tired of subsidizing a massive illegal brown migrant caste in my country every time I go to the grocery store.
>>56017189>lets force hyperinflationyou are a fucking imbecile.
>>56017157>Look goy>PussyJesus Chris you jews The pyramid scheme dies, and Hadrian is going to meet industrial genocide
>>56017178>60 seething mongoloid jew posts by this idHoly fuck
>>560172100 arguments from this retarded fuck
>>56012890>Replace native population with rootless teeming masses to make number go up :) Kill yourself faggot
>>56017227His bags must be heavy. Also reminder, when Italy cut welfare for niggers, they tried to wander through the Alps to France and Germany, in spring, we arr going to find out how many died
the retarded mechanisms of our unsustainable financial system just makes me think that XMR is the only way to short fiat in a violent way
>>56017475Why short fiat? Its still the most common way to transact, and interests rates, as yields on bonds are not going to go down anytime soon. Crypto, nobody except a very tiny niche of druggies actually use it
>>56017227>>56017281or you could have sex, but you dont and wont.
>>56017562You really have a hard time accepting reality. The importation of niggers, "syrians", spics, and south East Asians since 2011 was a crap shot that just made the problem worse your kind tried to solve. Yes short term it was profitable, long and mid term its a catastrophy
>>56010841>is on 4chan>does not recognize Greta, Grizzly, or Gigachad
>>56012887Sure thing.I believe you.
>>56017562Because of the digitized era and a low-trust society, finding potential matches in person has never been harder.Meanwhile with online dating, 99% of women are fat cows with Snapchat filters, illegitimate kids, mental disorders, and a laundry list of requirements. Oh, and trannies.Say what you will about incels, but rather than focusing on berating them for not having sex, try to look at the bigger picture.
>>56017200You mean "let's turn domestic fresh fruits and vegetables into luxury goods" which I would argue is vastly superior to the current strategy of "let's turn our first world country into a third world country."
>>56017967>Incel IdiotOh I have sex, just not with mentally unstable bitches. Literally whores, you pay for what you expect and its cheaper than a date. If you idiots not stop it with the incel meme you can put yourself on the nose, jews, that no man wants a bitch. Now you have children. You won't
>>56017967literally none of that is true. you think its true because you view the world through 4chan and you are also an autistic fuck with no personal skills. Go have sex.>>56018012and where do you suppose we get our food during this great transition?>>56017721there is economic research that shows that immigrants are a net benefit. your pol babble is purely that. keep your sperging to your containment board please.
>>56018293>ResearchLet me guess models build on retardation assumptions that are not provable with some hand picked samples that it looks like all is kumbaya, no? Ignoring all the bad things like increase in crime, increase in atomization, increase in instability
You wef faggots are really drooling retards not living in reality in your white ivory towers far away from the reality on the street
>>56018293Oh. And you need to have children. Go on, make some children, you won't make children because you know it's irrational
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>>56013174You can't have an honest discussion about economics and business without bringing politics into it.It's just impossible. Especially in this economy with Bidenomics.
>>56018387Go have children, have 20 of them. You won't. You will fall from one failed relationship to the next and st some point killing yourself like every roasties that got dumped once too often
>>56011260Henry Carey debunked Malthus. Stop spreading your lies, you share these beliefs with the WEF elite.
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>>56011003>an american family with children can live under a tarp bromoron
>>56019168They can. it's not like it isn't already the case. Was the case in the 90s already, families living under bridges.
>>56019195>living like a homeless crackhead is easy, any family can do it!
>>56019221It's not about can, everybody can live like this, it's about not having another choice, but it works. Shelter is shelterYou see now why it is irrational to have children as long as the pyramid scheme didn't collapse
>>56019195>Was the case in the 90s already,>says the underage lying child posting from their parent's basement
>>56019262You are projecting a lotNew York in the 90s was fun, if one likes decline