Teslas next bestseller

[Anonymous No.56005941]

hahahah
Dont forget this company is worth almost a trillion Dollars
hahahah

[Anonymous No.56005965]

Looks dope as fuck.
U mad, OP?

[Anonymous No.56005980]

>>56005941
I'd like them to do a sedan in this style.

[Anonymous No.56005985]

>>56005965
The doors dont even fit properly
hahaha

[Anonymous No.56005991]

>>56005980
It's a mule test car, genius.

[Anonymous No.56005996]

>>56005941
That fucking thing is tight. How much they go for?

[Anonymous No.56005998]

>>56005991
Meant for this >>56005985

[Anonymous No.56006008]

>>56005985
>Designer Says The Only Way To Fix The Cybertruck Is To Scrap It And Start Over

https://autos.yahoo.com/designers-only-way-fix-cybertruck-204500651.html

[Anonymous No.56006009]

>>56005985
they look good enough, plus car doors are adjustable anyway

[Anonymous No.56006017]

>>56005941
>all of the rednecks at work think it's a bomb on wheels that can't take any third party attachments and has zero standards.
I believe them.
Getting a Tundra instead.

[Anonymous No.56006034]

>>56006008
>>56006017
the comments are a goldmine
this shitbox is completely useless

>So many things wrong with the design. Stainless steel damage cannot be repaired. The insurance costs are going to be astronomical. The design of the sides of the bed, to not allow side access for loading, forcing all loading from the back is a huge negative. It might as well be a SUV with this back loading.

>Anybody have a stainless steel dishwasher or fridge, you know it's nearly impossible to keep the smudges and streaks at bay, and these appliances are indoors.

>I have never understood what the point of this vehicle is? It is not a suitable design for an actual pickup truck - the design of the truck bed makes it almost useless - you cannot have obstructions to the sides when you are acutally using the truck for work. A lot of time and energy has gone into building real working trucks - they are pretty much based on utilization, not pretty or sleek or aerodynamic.

>That car looks like it was built in Minecraft. It looks like an 8-year-old tried to draw a DeLorean. That long sloped windshield is going to turn that car into a hot box any time the temperature goes above 85 F.

[Anonymous No.56006042]

>>56005965
fpbp
OP eternally BTFO

[Anonymous No.56006079]

>>56005941
>truk
>no bed

[Anonymous No.56006110]

>>56006034
The design of a modern pickup is fucking terrible for work though

[Anonymous No.56006117]

>>56005965
It looks like shit though.

[Anonymous No.56006127]

Unsellable without subsidies.

[Anonymous No.56006145]

>>56006034
>The insurance costs are going to be astronomical
All Tesla cars are completely uninsurable because of their horrible safety and difficulty to repair, so they're all insured from Tesla's own in-house insurance service which operates at a loss.

[Anonymous No.56006188]

>>56006110
And this one is even worse

[Anonymous No.56006239]

>>56006145
This one's not 'difficult to repair' it's impossible. At least on any feasible level.
So, problem solved

[Anonymous No.56006247]

>>56006034
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/d55a9c53418e3b9ca9a8f50e9e0e5ec4.jpg

The full res photo, shows a metric shitton of problems.
1. The windshield glass top lip protrudes above the cab, so the first gentle rock kiss to that edge, and your entire windshield spiders down with cracks.
2. The weird fucking hole in the front quarter panel/passenger window meetup. 3. The hood visibly dips below the drivers quarter panel, and isnt even remotely parallel on the passenger side.
4. Roller waves in the rear passenger quarter panel
5. Rust spots on the hood
6. Stupid fucking 3d printed single wiper blade that clears 1/4 of the windshield.
7. THE FUCKING STREAKS AND SWIRLS IN THE HOOD, GODDAMN.

It gets worse the longer you look at it.
Yep, elon is a retard confirmed.

[Anonymous No.56006279]

>>56006145
I easily inspired mine. Full coverage is like $86 a month.

[Anonymous No.56006283]

>>56006279
kek, baggie

[Anonymous No.56006286]

>>56006247
Exactly. Posting photo for reference
This is not a serious car

[Anonymous No.56006295]

>>56006286
it's brand new and it already looks like it's all falling apart..

[Anonymous No.56006316]

>>56006295
And how the stainless steel looks after a while
hahahahah

[Anonymous No.56006449]

>>56005941
But if I buy one is it going to make me feel like a big man and will I be able to put big stickers with swear words on it and drive around with the windows down playing my music really loud and thinking I'm better than everyone else? That's the only reason I'd buy a new truck

[Anonymous No.56006476]

>>56005965
I'd want one if I had the money for it. I think it's cool even if it probably doesn't work well.

[Anonymous No.56006479]

Good. Muskrat is never going to see a single penny of my money. My next car will be a BYD or GWM.

[Anonymous No.56006493]

>>56006034
> It might as well be a SUV with this back loading.
The only thing I've ever used a truck for as an adult is to move small boats around so this isn't a problem for me.
When we had a truck when I was younger it was for moving wood and we just chucked it over the side anyway.

If you wanted a "real world working truck" then you'd care about efficiency and use an ICE one. An electric truck is all about feelings to begin with.

[Anonymous No.56006501]

>>56006316
Those pieces are interchangeable with new colors

[Anonymous No.56006545]

>>56006034
It will break sales records and I look forward to your seething about it.

[Anonymous No.56006582]

lol at all the people saying that it’s going to be bad because a picture of a prototype had some flaws, this thing has way better design than any other truck on the road right now that all look identical and you can’t even tell what company made it because they all desig the exact same fucking truck, o do t even care that it’s electric, at least they aren’t making the same thing everyone else is making, same goes for. Ads and suvs btw, all car makers are making the same shit, we need new designs like this

[Anonymous No.56006671]

>>56006493
At least you admit its completely useless
>>56006545
no it wont

[Anonymous No.56006685]

>>56006582
It really doesn't. It tries to be futuristic but ends up looking like a halfbaked mess. I could design a better truck than this when I was 10 years old.

[Anonymous No.56006908]

>>56006493
I know people who tow a Pacer with a VW Golf. You really don't need much to tow a small boat.

[Anonymous No.56007078]

>>56005965
he mad anon, he seethe mad

[Anonymous No.56007102]

>>56006034
its the iPhone of cars. iPhone success showed you that people dont care about tech or nerd stuff. they only care about status.

[Anonymous No.56007121]

I love my Tesla :)

[Anonymous No.56007130]

>>56007121
cybercuck

[Anonymous No.56007277]

>>56006582
this. the Rivian headlights look gay af. this is just another retarded thread created by some retard who shorted TSLA but he knows he fucked because it's not quite doing the bart simpson like he wanted it to lol. OP's not even posting the latest pics. there's literally a waiting list miles long waiting to buy it. and people don't buy Teslas just for the exterior design. they buy them for all the cool bells, whistles and easter eggs

[Anonymous No.56007566]

the amount of cope and seething in this thread over the cybertruck is why it would be popular, people want attention and no current vehicle comes close to attention as the cybertruck

[Anonymous No.56007573]

How aerodynamic it actually is? I feel like the flatter top means its better but the font looks boxy as hell.

[Anonymous No.56007581]

>>56006034
>The Only Way To Fix The Cybertruck Is To Scrap It And Start Over
>proceeds to list things that actually don't require to scrap it and start over
what did he mean by this?

[Anonymous No.56007643]

>>56006110
>>The design of a modern pickup is fucking terrible for work though
??? everything is accessible easily and it just works

[Anonymous No.56007868]

>>56006501
>new colors
I though the entire appeal was a DeLorean-esque stainless look.
If you're going to paint the panels, why bother trying to make them stainless at all? Car panels are typically made of mild steel for a reason.

[Anonymous No.56007881]

>>56005941
I actually love the design, unfortunately I've been driven by tesla taxis a lot and these are unfit for driving anything but a sack of potatoes, as they're capable of getting a sea captain sea sick.

[Anonymous No.56007970]

>>56007566
exactly why I don't even talk about it. Elon wants this to have attention and cybercuck to be ridiculed because then the "rebels" (retards) who buy one feel like they're hot shit breaking status quo

[Anonymous No.56008187]

Why are dumb people given positions of decision making in companies?

[Anonymous No.56008196]

>>56008187
Bcuz their fathers have emerald mines and their mothers are masons, hope it helps.

[Anonymous No.56008211]

>>56005941
>Tesla has 3x the market cap of the 2nd largest automaker, Toyota
JUST

[Anonymous No.56008709]

>>56007121
Looks like a computer mouse. You will die in a lithium fire BTW. You last thoughts will be "why won't the doors open".

[Anonymous No.56008710]

>>56007277
Thats how it looks exactly for one day in its life.
It's stainless seel, it will look like shit. See: >>56006316

[Anonymous No.56008989]

>>56006017
>>56006008
>>56005985
>>56005941
>>56006247
>>56006286
>>56008710
Absolutely none of these concerns about utility and safety matter because 95% of truck drivers use them as driveway ornaments and never actually haul or load them.

[Anonymous No.56009179]

>>56008989
Correct. They are larping with a trugg as surrogate manhood for their low t. Guess what? This retarded wedge shaped elcamino isn't heckin MEAN lookin so none of that enormous demographic will purchase one. It's DOA.

[Anonymous No.56009206]

>>56005941
this is an abomination

[Anonymous No.56009215]

>>56006110
that's because the market isn't doing work. it's suburban dads driving to their office job.

look at diesel trucks if you actually want to do work

[Anonymous No.56009217]

>>56005941
It has over a million pre orders.
People have been talking shit about this company for over a decade and yet it’s up 15,000% since then.

[Anonymous No.56009220]

>>56007970
I saw one of them on the back of a car carrier near Palo Alto yesterday. Definitely caught my attention. My first thought was "a DeLorean" but then realized it was the truck. I know I'll be seeing a lot of these on the road around here.

[Anonymous No.56009223]

I don't want one and I understand the appeal

[Anonymous No.56009231]

>>56007277
>they buy them for all the cool bells, whistles and easter eggs
yes there is a considerable car market for easter eggs that tesla is just starting to tap into

[Anonymous No.56009258]

Buying a raptor r and nothing will change that

[Anonymous No.56009603]

>>56005941
Still needs a lot of work. Anyway, not buying your piece of shit. Kek

[Anonymous No.56011126]

>Flooded Tesla Bursts into flames while being towed to the storage lot.
>Driver picked up the flood damaged Tesla from a storm damaged home and was towing it back when it burst into flames. Driver stopped on a street and quickly off loaded the burning car to save his truck. (that's why there are burnt tow dollies under it). When the fire department arrived, they put it out, but it kept reigniting. After several attempts to put it out, they just let it burn out. This was all that was left.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftfjfPhTq8Q

[Anonymous No.56011160]

it's a reatarded looking piece of shit. Tesla has been surpassed time and time again by other manufacturers.

[Anonymous No.56011165]

>>56009258
some cholo's might cut your ownership short...

[Anonymous No.56011188]

>>56005941
This is like a kids drawing.

[Anonymous No.56011270]

>>56005965
the dirt takes the futuristic aesthetic away it just looks silly and tryhard

[Anonymous No.56011371]

>>56006034
>>56005941
>>56005985
ngmi
the point of the Cybertruck is to run over commie protesters

[Anonymous No.56011401]

>>56011371
Its stainless steel. Repairing costs will be through the roof.

[Anonymous No.56011423]

body panel alignment, as is the case with all teslas, is pure shit. Can't believe people are paying as much as they are for these vehicles.

[Anonymous No.56011434]

All a man needs is a 2022 Chevy Express 2500
>Unkillable
>Built like a tank
>Rips
>Can store and transport incredible amounts of shit
>Affordable maintenance and servicing
>Cute girls will tease you for driving it but secretly unlocks their rape fantasies
>Can coincidentally transport several people all in total privacy

[Anonymous No.56011435]

>side mirrors
>windshield wiper
>no longer wider than a humvee
Into the trash it goes. I wanted a bulletproof Canyonero, not this faggotmobile

[Anonymous No.56011446]

>>56011435
pretty much. quickly became a faggotmobile.

[Anonymous No.56011452]

>>56011423
Musk knows it. They are fucked
The whole thing is a design disaster

[Anonymous No.56011466]

>>56006582
all trucks look the same because they are functional you fucking mong

[Anonymous No.56011470]

>>56005980
Why? Seems pointless to me. If you look at the design it almost already is a huge sedan with a really deep trunk. I think what your suggesting would be almost exactly the same, just like 30% smaller.

[Anonymous No.56011546]

>>56011466
>all pickups now extended cab with micro beds
>functional
Faggot.

[Anonymous No.56011558]

>>56011423
>MUH PANELS
Lmao!

[Anonymous No.56011564]

>>56011452
I will always love the man for his complete destruction of Twitter but its so funny how he claims to work 19 hours a day (or whatever) doing this kind of shit. Its no different than fucking off shitposting on forums.

[Anonymous No.56011570]

>>56011452
>a 3 ton truck is just like a soda can

[Anonymous No.56011575]

>>56006145
>Safest car on the planet
>MUH HORRIBLE SAFETY
lmao

[Anonymous No.56011587]

>>56006008
Sounds like Bill Gates is still shorting Tesla, and idiots on /biz/ are still falling for the FUD kek

[Anonymous No.56011594]

>>56008709
You're more likely to win the lottery than to "die in lithium fire".

Lmao!

[Anonymous No.56011629]

>>56011160
>The only company making money building EVs
>MUH SURPASSED BY MANNUFFACTORERS
Lmao!

[Anonymous No.56011681]

>>56011629
thats not true at all

[Anonymous No.56011694]

>>56011452
>https://autos.yahoo.com/designers-only-way-fix-cybertruck-204500651.html
>Precision Predicates Perfectionism
P P P
>inverted 666
lucifereans are gheeey

[Anonymous No.56011711]

>>56011558
I guess if you're fine with paying top dollar for a sub-standard product, you do you, pal.

[Anonymous No.56011721]

>>56011694
meds

[Anonymous No.56012311]

The only way their stuff sells, is with constant price cuts.
Have you ever seen this behaviour from Mercedes or something?
Completely desperate company.

[Anonymous No.56012680]

>>56012311
>how to stop sales all in one go 101

[Anonymous No.56012736]

>>56012311
What is the actual explanation here though? I thought the cars are selling very well (Didn't the Model Y become the best selling car over the Camry or some shit?)

How is it possible that with such (allegedly) high demand, the prices have been cut this drastically? I don't really know much about Tesla's financials but I see a lot of doomposters saying it's over, but when I go out I see a FUCK LOAD of Teslas on the road these days.

[Anonymous No.56012807]

>>56012736
The Model 3 & Model Y are selling exceptionally well (Model Y is indeed the best selling single car model world wide, as earlier this year); the S & X not as much, which is why they have had larger price cuts. Also, Ol'Musky is pushing hard for larger production, along with lower prices, as he really wants to keep Tesla's economies of scale for electric vehicles well ahead of any competition; all the other non-Chinese automakers are really struggling to make any profit selling electrics, while even with lower prices Tesla still can. Basically this forces other companies to bleed money while they try to catch up.

[Anonymous No.56012817]

>>56012807
Ok that seems to make more sense then. The S and X seem like pretty redundant models in their lineup.

[Anonymous No.56012847]

What are cops going to do if they can't break my cybertruck windows or shoot me if I have them rolled up?

[Anonymous No.56012860]

>>56005941
For me, it's the MoChicken. The best fast food
sandwich. I even ask for extra McChicken sauce packets and the staff is so friendly and more than willing to oblige.
One time I asked for McChicken sauce packets and they gave me three. I said, "Wow, three for free!" and the nice friendly McDonald's worker laughed and said, "I'm going to call you 3-for-free!"
Now the staff greets me with "hey it's 3-for-free!" and ALWAYS give me three packets. It's such a fun and cool atmosphere at my local McDonald's restaurant, I go there at least 3 times a week for lunch and a large iced coffee with milk instead of cream, 1-2 times for breakfast on the weekend, and maybe once for dinner when I'm in a rush but want a great meal that is affordable, fast, and can match my daily nutritional needs.
I even dip my fries in McChicken sauce, it's delicious! What a great restaurant

[Anonymous No.56012868]

>>56012847
you do remember when the rock smashed the window right anon. you really think the feds are goign to let tesla produce bulletproof vehicles for 75k. LMAO.

[Anonymous No.56012875]

>>56012311
>https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/d55a9c53418e3b9ca9a8f50e9e0e5ec4.jpg
this is surprising and shocking. i guess everyone who wanted a S or X now owns one and now they just trying to broaden the market through lower prices. Cybertruck imo is and will be an unmitigated disaster, but still sell extremely well and get lots of love in the first year or so.

[Anonymous No.56012913]

>>56005941
when will teslas have a toilet in the seat? i dont want to wait half an hour charging at a gas station and need to take a huge shit. no way im using gas station toilet.

[Anonymous No.56012946]

>>56012311
honestly if tesla can get automakers to compete on price again i'll be a happy camper

[Anonymous No.56014362]

>>56005941
Private vehicle ownership will no longer exist soon. Install the Uber app.

[Anonymous No.56014381]

>>56012736
he trying to kill the legacy car companies
people don't get it, it's ruthless as fuck

[Anonymous No.56014648]

>>56006110
I find it funny that in Europe the enterprise either buy a shitty pizzabox van, the normal sized one, the buss sized one. And only then will they buy a pickup if they need the towing capacity, which rarely happens because at that point you could buy a small trailer and just install it in the cargo hold and abuse the fact it has a functional lift

>>56006034
>The design of the sides of the bed, to not allow side access for loading
Thats pretty rare for pickups. At that point you might as well import a Mitsubishi Canter. Or one if its clones

[Anonymous No.56014678]

>>56014648
RAIN
pickups are not practical because, the rain will rain on your shit

[Anonymous No.56014705]

>>56012736
>>56012311
>What is the actual explanation here though?
BEV vehicles are far simpler to make
Tesla has scaled to reach a actual scale that allows benefit from scale
Tesla makes batteries, meaning they don't have to walk blue balled from negotiating with BYD or Panasonic if the offer isn't feasible

So Musk started out pricing the vehicles on parity with competing ICE cars, and as production has ramped up the actual cost has gone down. And quality has gone up enough that the worst horror stories of the S and Lotus Tesla is rare.
Musk is lowering the prices AFTER 2-3 steps behind the production advantages, meaning surplus capital.¨
It would not surprise me one bit if the Y is sold for twice its construction cost minus guaranties and repairs. This is not that different from the period in the late 90s when computer specs went wild, except this time Tesla is the only one ahead the train while the Koreans and Chinese is trailing a entire train car or two behind.

Also
>>56012807
>Basically this forces other companies to bleed money while they try to catch up.

[Anonymous No.56014724]

>>56014705
>le zestimate baggie
every single vehicle manufacturer will be produce EVs if they make sense
there is no magic, only competition

[Anonymous No.56014762]

>>56014724
>if they make sense
And the first one to reach mass production(including batteries) inhouse gets to have massive margins on their first vehicles made off those economies of scale sized factories.
This is how shit like DRAM price collapse, Aluminium trade, x86 processors and a whole lot of deprecation happens.

Companies like VAG will be able to use their governments and internal size to stave off the problem, but if the gap is too wide they will bleed money.

[Anonymous No.56014769]

>>56014762
yeah I am gonna buy twitter to lose my ass
yeah I am gonna buy them tesla shares on the top to speculate that nobody in the future can make cars

[Anonymous No.56014788]

>>56011434
used to be good. now you cant even get a v8

[Anonymous No.56014810]

>>56012847
they can open your doors with their LEO mobile app provided by tesla

[Anonymous No.56014821]

>>56014788
Uhm, yes you can sweaty the V8 still comes as an option

[Anonymous No.56014831]

>>56014821
ok u right, they did cancel the diesel engine though, thats what i was thinking of

[Anonymous No.56014869]

>>56014831
The really unfortunate thing is no more AWD

[Anonymous No.56014953]

>"Hmm people aren't talking about me enough"
>"Hey minion, release the cybertruck mockup photos"
>"yes sir, on it"
>...
>"That's better."

[Anonymous No.56015159]

>>56014705
>It would not surprise me one bit if the Y is sold for twice its construction cost minus guaranties and repairs.
Where do you people come up with this nonsense?
Teslas operating margins have totally tanked, below BMW and Mercedes and are almost on par with Volkswagen nowadays

[Anonymous No.56015226]

>>56015159
At which the chart means absolutely jack shit because one of these is still building new factories and new production lines, and has to deal with the investment cost of expanding.
Come on, post that chart going back to 2006, i dare you.

[Anonymous No.56015246]

>>56015226
Wut? All these companies are building EV factories left and right. They are bringing their EVs models to market and are already crushing Tesla.

[Anonymous No.56015251]

>>56015246
>July 2023
lmao
Look ma, he posted the wrong graph, again... as a joke!

[Anonymous No.56015253]

>>56015251
Whats wrong with July 2023? Thats the latest date available? Tesla nigger.

[Anonymous No.56015265]

>>56015253
The entire of 2023 or bust anon.
Operating profit back to 2006 would also be a good start.

[Anonymous No.56015298]

>>56015265
Here is from April. As you can see Teslas market share is going down, instead of up. thats why they are cutting prices left and right.
>2006
Who gives a fuck about 2006.

[Anonymous No.56015326]

>>56015298
>Who gives a fuck about 2006.
Because operating profit is meaningless when dealing with expanding vs stagnant.
>Tesla market share
The only scary that thing that can happen is that BYD, NIO or any of the Chinese manifacturers manage to penetrate the market below the current target one for BEV vehicles.
Which will lead to cumulative manifacture benefits that could long term ruin Tesla's price stratagem.

All I have gotten from this exchange is not if you have faith in the Tesla stock or not, but you don't want too look at the actual picture the market paints.
The current trend is that Tesla is expanding while also slashing prices since they have a good compact inhouse structure that allows it. If VAG, Stellantis or any of the other dinosaurs react in time isn't a given.

[Anonymous No.56015348]

>>56015326
>Because operating profit is meaningless when dealing with expanding vs stagnant.
All major car comppanies are building EV factories.
You have no fucking clue what the fuck you are talking about.
Thats what I have gotten fromt his exchange.

[Anonymous No.56015376]

>>56015326
> If VAG, Stellantis or any of the other dinosaurs react in time isn't a given.
They are going to crank out so many models, Tesla wont even know what is hitting them.
While Tesla has like two models. Where the only way they stay in business is constantly cutting prices.
And these companies know how to make cars. Not like Tesla with their Cyberdork

[Anonymous No.56015387]

>>56011452
I saw that in the news a few days ago. I wonder when it was originally sent to everyone (if it's real) cause it seems like that should've been obvious from like years ago when they first started showing off these things

[Anonymous No.56015396]

>>56015376
>They are going to crank out so many models,
Yes.
But that won't mean anything if t hey are stuck in the wrong segments. Or have a ICE body, leaving to spec defencies.
Remember GM making something like the Bolt only to pussy out?

[Anonymous No.56015398]

That cybertruck is going to be a rattling mess of a car.

[Anonymous No.56015402]

>>56011594
>PowerBall winners nationwide 2022:
>7

>lithium battery fire deaths in NYC alone in just 2023 so far:
>13

[Anonymous No.56015410]

>>56015396
No wonder you are stuck in 2006. They build their own EV models. They even build their own battery factories.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMnXi-twfWo

[Anonymous No.56015416]

>>56005941
Those plastic black fenders and side mirrors look like absolute shit

[Anonymous No.56015417]

>>56015387
There is so much stuff wrong with. Will probably be Teslas Delorean.
>>56006008

[Anonymous No.56015472]

>>56015410
>own battery factories
>shows assemble of Panasonic cells
Wow, that sure showed them!

[Anonymous No.56015527]

>>56015472
You reatize Panasonic is producing for Tesla?Are you mixing something up? Or are you confused again?

[None !vR6H4evzDQ No.56015541]

>>56005941
this is shit totally and completely based as being shit

[Anonymous No.56015545]

>>56015527
so it is ok to have suppliers ? and there is no inherit value in building your factories ?

[Anonymous No.56015574]

>>56015527
And Tesla is licensing Panasonic to build their own batteries, while also building their own patented design, and buying from BYD and CAT.
Even at first glance that is very different from trusting your OEM to not shaft you in a global market.

[Anonymous No.56015582]

>>56015545
Have you finally come to the year 2023 where every major car maker is about to crank out models left and right and is about to crush Tesla?

[Anonymous No.56015594]

>>56015582
nobody cares about tesla
and their models look like heavy turtles on the road

[Anonymous No.56015596]

>>56015574
Didnt I just show you a Mercedes battery factory. What the fuck is your problem, nigger?

[Anonymous No.56015610]

>>56015582
>>56015596
If you don't get it, its fine.

[Anonymous No.56015612]

>>56015594
Agreed. They are just starting to realize, what will hit them. Which is why they do panic prices cuts left and right. But that wont be enough to compete against all these different models

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7WpHXZgfPk

[Anonymous No.56015621]

>>56007130
seethe poorfag

[Anonymous No.56015624]

>>56008709
There is nothing like that orange color of a nice lithium fire.

[Anonymous No.56015643]

>>56011434
Based rape van enjoyer

[Anonymous No.56015667]

>>56011435
>>56011446
>>56011446
He was on the right track. He wanted a futuristic battle taxi for our low trust dystopian present. However, he got what he deserved by having a company full of jeets and soi addled bugmen who know nothing about trucks. Musk should just hire some west Texas roughnecks as the design team, and some business fags from Dallas to function as managers and cultural advisors.

[Anonymous No.56015739]

Pretty much every electric car is a nightmare for insurance companies, not just the cyber truck. Once an EV has been in a collision it has to be assumed that its battery is a ticking time bomb and can’t be repaired and has to be stored 100 meters away from every other car while it’s waiting to be assessed which is extremely expensive. Every EV accident will be a write off.

[Anonymous No.56015754]

>>56015739
EVs are essentially a chinese scam to fuck over the west.
Trump has called it out. And the head of BMW also complained this week, that its nuts to go all in on EVs.

[Anonymous No.56015807]

>>56015754
>China has a lock on raw materials.
The whole electric economy is a psyop. China controls the entire supply chain all things EV. Solar panels are all Chinese. Russia controls most of the uranium.

[Anonymous No.56015879]

>>56015807
Agreed.

[Anonymous No.56015883]

>>56011470
It's a retarded looking wedge. It looks like it belongs in a ps1 game. It's what the car sprites look like on the other side of the map when I zoom in with a sniper rifle in gta. Picrel is how you do cyberpunk stainless steel EV.

[Anonymous No.56015902]

>>56015883
Look at what these retarded gooks that make terrible cuckovers did. Musk you giggatard why does the cypertruck look so bad?

[Anonymous No.56016206]

>>56015902
>Musk you giggatard why does the cypertruck look so bad?
It was supposed to be easy to manufacture, but that turned out to not be the case. But they don't want to acknowledge that to keep TSLA trading @80x earnings instead of 7x where a car company should be traded at.

[Anonymous No.56016255]

>>56011681
So what other EV is profitable in the US?
Lucid? Nope
Rivian? No
Nikola? No
Workhorse? Nada
Ford? Losing millions
GM? Losing millions
Did I miss something?

[Anonymous No.56016259]

>>56016255
None of these are relevant to anything.

[Anonymous No.56016278]

>>56015902
I know you can’t buy this but fuck this thing looks cool bros. Make it tier.

[Anonymous No.56016289]

>>56015879
You know Tesla is developing a battery right now that uses no rare earth materials?

[Anonymous No.56016342]

>>56016289
And they also will solve FSD next week. If you still believe anyhting these liars say, youre nuts.
Their CFO stpped down a few weeks ago, too. Wouldnt doubt the whole company is a failing mess.

[Anonymous No.56016380]

>>56015621
>has a 50k death trap
>calls people poor

Fucking lmaoing at you right now.

[Anonymous No.56016444]

>>56011452
>if injection molded plastic and extremely simple cylindrical sheet metal can be done to micron precision, surely large autobody parts can
he is an actual, literal retard. I just wonder how long he keeps up with the false promises until he gets sent to jail.

[Anonymous No.56016554]

>>56006110
You've never even driven a pickup in your life, let alone used one for work NEETard

[Anonymous No.56016699]

>>56014678
that and the fact that junkies like to steal, we've had people fucking jump on our trucks at red lights and take shit out of the back and book it. Don't gotta worry about that with a van.

I like some of the old baby pickups like the old Tacomas since they run on a car frame while still having a little more power and hauling space than a car but big pickups are really for 2 kinds of people

1. People doing work outdoors on a farm where there's nobody for miles, you need the horsepower for towing shit and the open bed is a benefit for carrying awkward sized loads without having to jenga them in
2. Small dicked suburban guys who like to pretend they're #1.

Hate to use the penis argument since it's womancore but I have seen the dicks of several of these guys. Work friends with a roastie who shows off the dick pics guys send her. Unless you're verifiably hung do not send pics of your cock to a woman, she will 100% show them to everyone willing to see them to mock them.

[Anonymous No.56016709]

>>56005965
i think aesthtically it could use a bit of work, but the fact that its bullet proof makes me want it.

[Anonymous No.56016729]

>>56016709
>the fact that its bullet proof
Imagine still believing Musks bullshit

[Anonymous No.56016747]

>>56005941
I bet it will be popular at burning man next year.

[Anonymous No.56016782]

>>56005941
how much do you think Tesla worth in Bitcoin?

[Anonymous No.56017065]

>>56015612
Nothing is going to hit them. Bears like you have been saying that exact same line for 8 years by now and nothing has hit them. Nothing has slowed them down. Nothing will slow them down while they build more gigafactories and ramp up production while everybody else loses money on every single EV they make. That ID7 you linked will lose VW money. Every single EV they build will lose them money. No amount of "muh moddles" will help that. Legacy is dead and Tesla killed it. The sooner you realize that the less you'll lose on your Tesla shorts.

[Anonymous No.56017076]

>>56015739
Tesla is an insurance company, so I fail to see how your babbling has anything of relevance to do with EVs.

[Anonymous No.56017090]

>>56017065
>while everybody else loses money on every single EV they make
Not everyone is Ford. You have no idea what you are babbling about.
Teslas margins are industry average

[Anonymous No.56017092]

>>56016342
Dunno about anything else you said, but yeah they are developing a battery that uses no rare earth metals. Too bad for your bear thesis.

[Anonymous No.56017107]

>>56017090
Every single EV maker is losing money on their BEVs and its a fact. Oh well, if you count the chines you have BYD that can eke out some profit from their EVs.

[Anonymous No.56017111]

>>56017092
>yeah they are developing a battery that uses no rare earth metals. Too bad for your bear thesis.
So they claim. Do you beleive everything Musk says? Too bad, actual experts in the field cant figure out what Tesla is even talking about
If they dont use rare earth minerals their magnets would lose power

https://www.wired.com/story/tesla-elon-musk-magnet-mystery/

[Anonymous No.56017128]

>>56017107
Keep drinking the Musk coolaide.

>EVs Are Now Almost As Profitable For Audi As Its Other Cars

https://insideevs.com/news/538396/audi-ev-profits/

[Anonymous No.56017135]

>>56017111
Not everything, but this I belive fully. I believed they'd build the Modle Y which was, according to you and other bears, going to be "muhhh vaporware".

Your "experts" are diaper wearing retarded perverts with no actual information about anything they are saying. Lmao.

[Anonymous No.56017138]

>>56017090
Legacy auto companies make money on ICE cars. They lose millions on EVs. They’re so far behind in manufacturing, it’s laughable.

[Anonymous No.56017144]

>>56017128
>Audi
Lmao! Audi is building so few EVs that it's basically irrelevant. Tesla is even building more cars than Audi. Audi is irrelevant and dead.

[Anonymous No.56017145]

turdsla shill bots going ballastic itt

[Anonymous No.56017153]

>>56017092
yes and full self driving that doesn't try to kill you next year, for real guys.
Tesla FSD will never be reliable enough.
Tesla lost $700 billion in value last year. It has regained some of that but the entire basis of that is 95% hype, 5% reality. It's still ridiculously overvalued compared to every other car company. And it is a car company, nothing else Tesla does makes any money.
the company is a mess and Elon periodically loots it to shore up his other failing companies (or failing companies of his friends/relatives like we saw with Solarcity)
The question is how long we can keep up the song and dance where people place massive speculative value on this company based on a technology that it has been supposed to deliver next year for the past decade.

[Anonymous No.56017165]

>>56017135
>Your "experts" are diaper wearing retarded perverts
I guess Musk has shit in your brain and you liked it.
>>56017138
Wrong.
>>56017144
Audi makes more profit than Tesla. Tesla has to constantly cut prices, to get their stuff into costumers hand. That tells you everything you need to know.
Tesla is soon going to be history.

[Anonymous No.56017182]

>>56017153
I don't care about Tesla FSD. Tesla just made $20 billion in profit last year and will make even more this year. Solar city has catapulted Tesla energy into becoming even bigger than it's car side. It's literally raking billions in profit and growing faster then the auto side.

You're literally blind and retarded to think that some irrelevant shit brand such as WV or Audi will ever be able to compete with Tesla. And the new kind of battery without rare earts will be built, without a doubt.

[Anonymous No.56017186]

>>56017165
>Believes in "experts"
Lmao you are retarded.

>Audi makes more profit than Tesla
>Audi profit less than 8 billion
>Tesla profit over 12 billion
No it's not. Lmao! Tesla is making way more profit than Audi. What the hell are you smoking?

[Anonymous No.56017194]

>>56017182
>Solar city

[Anonymous No.56017201]

>>56017194
Yes. Solar city which morphed into Tesla energy. Have you checked how much it's raking in with megapacks? Nah, you'r just guzzling VW cum down your brain.

[Anonymous No.56017205]

>>56017182
alright, post hands ranjesh. there is a 0% probability that you are white.

[Anonymous No.56017213]

>>56017205
The fuck are you talking about nigger? You have to go back.

[Anonymous No.56017239]

>>56017201
Its raking in so much, that it has created less revenue in the second quarter than in the first.

[Anonymous No.56017259]

>>56017239
Yes? Now post a chart for 5 years showing Teslas energy division profits. If you dare ofc, which you don't because you're full of VW cum.

[Anonymous No.56017272]

>>56006017
What kind of retarded faggot wants to put third party parts on their car? Nonwhite detected.

[Anonymous No.56017277]

>>56017186
Tesla profit is actually going nowhere. Only up 7% and most likely getting worse and worse with every desperate price cut.

[Anonymous No.56017280]

>>56017259
why the fuck are we talking about VW and Audi? Who cares. your argument is fucking moronic because if you look at the fundamentals it's obvious that Tesla is massively overvalued. All of the value premium of Tesla is in its speculative, unproven, nonexistent technologies. If the music ever stops on that shit it's over for that company.

[Anonymous No.56017304]

>>56005965
Dope like Kanye-dope. AKA not dope, more like dopey.

[Anonymous No.56017305]

>>56017277
Now, why don't you post that same data for 5 years? Go ahead, lets look at Tesla gross profit development for 5 years.

>MUHH NOT GOING ANYWERRRE DESPRATE PRICU CUTS
Lmao! Tesla is cornering the market. They are the only player making any substantial amount of cars profitably. Everyone else is either irrelevant or losing with every car they make. We are seeing a monopoly forming and you're cruing about "MUH DESPERATION"

[Anonymous No.56017314]

>>56017280
Post the chart you faggot. Post it, cuckolded cum guzzler. POST IT
.

[Anonymous No.56017321]

>>56017305
Past data is only relevant to show, that Tesla is crumbling on every front and cant hold their profit margins.

[Anonymous No.56017339]

>>56017321
Tesla is expanding it's operations constantly. More cars, more factories, more everything all the while making a profit out of their EVs, which no relevant player is managing to do. Past data is only showing how Tesla is on trajectory to destroy every single other automaker and make them go bankrupt. And you didn't post that 5 years of data. Post it, faggot. Do it and lets both laugh at your stupidity when you do.

[Anonymous No.56017361]

Despite the similarties in outward appearance, the thing being released that is called the Cybertruck has very little in common with the Cybertruck that was announced in 2019.

It's basically just a really ugly and hilariously overpriced pickup truck that runs on batteries. It is objectively worse than what you can get from Rivian or Ford and looks retarded to boot.

It doesn't have an exoskeleton like the original and it's not bulletproof and can't go on water. It doesn't have the long range or quick acceleration or amazing towing capacity. It's not an off road machine that can handle any environment.

It's the Tesla equivalent of an Apple product that calls itself "pro." It's just ridiculous and overpriced and the only people who will buy it are people with more money than sense.

Save your money and buy a Ford F150. There is a reason it is the best selling vehicle in America.

[Anonymous No.56017377]

>>56017277
And that's with extensive government subsidies and carbon credit schemes. Their products aren't profitable by themselves even though they are so wildly overpriced for what they are.

Electric cars are retarded.

[Anonymous No.56017378]

>>56017361
how are those electric semis coming?

[Anonymous No.56017382]

>>56017339
>which no relevant player is managing to do
Keep lying. Literally every carmaker in the world is expanding its EV prodcut line and investing massively
Yet they dont have crumbling operating margins like Tesla
And they dont desperately lower their car prices either
Funny how that works

[Anonymous No.56017397]

>>56017382
>Mercedes Benz
I said relevant. Mercedes Benz is not relevant, they barely make any EVs at all. Try some RELEVANT car makers and not those tiny ass little guys.

[Anonymous No.56017426]

>>56017397

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keEL0vxxlyU

[Anonymous No.56017450]

>>56017426
96% of irrelevance is still irrelevance. Mercedes Benz is irrelevant. They make a pathetically tiny amount of EVs and will never compete with any serious player.

[Anonymous No.56017456]

>>56017450
Wut?

>In the first six months of 2023, Mercedes-Benz Cars sold 102,600 BEVs worldwide

[Anonymous No.56017487]

>>56017456
He's a tesla bobo and delusional, also most likely indian. disregard him and continue to make fun of tesla baggies.

[Anonymous No.56017493]

>>56017456
That is the very definition of irrelevance. Tesla delivered 889 000 in the same timeframe. 1/8 of what Tesla did, pathetic.

[Anonymous No.56017509]

>>56017493
While Tesla is still ahead, to say the sales of the competition are irrelevant is nonsense.
These companies are just now really starting to crank out EVs.
They are growing faster than Tesla, taking market share.
Companies like Apple never had to cut their prices to desperately try to keep market share

[Anonymous No.56017525]

>>56017509
>Counting hybrids
LMAO! Are you serious? Lol!

Tesla is ahead, and will always be ahead. You'r just deceiving yourself on bear hopium if you think Tesla will slow down. Mercedes Benz is totally irrelevant in EV space. Only 5% of their sales are EVs. No one can compete with Tesla. Not the chinese, not the german, not the yankees. No one.

And Tesla is still the only relevant player making any real money on their EVs.

[Anonymous No.56017527]

>>56005941
Possibly the worst looking vehicle I have ever seen

[Anonymous No.56017532]

>>56016782
it's all going to 0

[Anonymous No.56017533]

>>56006042
pink id

[Anonymous No.56017576]

>>56017525
>Tesla is ahead, and will always be ahead.
How come their competition is growing faster then? Surely that shouldnt happen if Tesla is so desirable.
Surely, Teslas profit margins shouldnt crater to industry average then and getting worse with every price cut.
> Mercedes Benz is totally irrelevant in EV space. Only 5% of their sales are EVs.
No its not. They will sell several 100k this year
And they are growing faster than Tesla
>And Tesla is still the only relevant player making any real money on their EVs.
That was already refuted for Audi
And now for Mercedes too
>Mercedes Says EQE Electric Sedan Is As Profitable As The E-Class
https://insideevs.com/news/601531/mercedes-eqe-more-profitable-than-e-class/

[Anonymous No.56017591]

Tesla is destroying its brand with these prices cuts.
Thats why no serious carmaker does them.
People are pissed.
Imagine, being a buyer and they just slash prices by 20k shortly after?

https://fortune.com/2023/09/02/tesla-owners-angry-at-elon-musk-after-new-price-cuts/

[Anonymous No.56017613]

>>56017576
>Industry average
>Comparing EVs to ICE cars
LMAO! Again, no relevant player, other than one chinese manufacturer, is able to eke out profits out of EVs. Tesla is leading hands down.

Tesla is consistently ramping up their production. They are gaining economics of scale. They are constantly gaining on the overall car market share. As long as they are consistently building factories, consistently improving their processes, consistently ramping up their production it doesn't matter if a chinese company is growing fast in China. Lets see when they penetrate the US market and start to compete against Tesla there. While Tesla is growing their production close to 50% YoY.

Mercedes Benz is irrelevant in EV space. No matter how you try to spin it, it is. Audi is also irrelevant player in the EV industry. Tesla is even making more overall cars than Audi. Lol

Again. Mercedes Benz and Audi are irrelevant. They will never offer any competition to Tesla, or the chinese.

[Anonymous No.56017653]

>>56017613
So Mercedes makes money, Audi makes money, the chinese make money.
But I thought, noone but Telsa makes money?
>They are constantly gaining on the overall car market share
They lose EV market share
>Tesla is consistently ramping up their production. They are gaining economics of scale.
Oh, how unique, Tesla is building factories. No other car maker has ever heard of that!
lol
Maybe someone should tell Toyota. Im sure they never heard of the concept.

[Anonymous No.56017686]

>>56017653
And neither of them makes any relevant amount of cars. And not chinese, only one chinese manufacturer, lol. Yes, only Tesla is making any real money on EVs. Too bad for your bear thesis.

They gain overall market share. Too bad for your bear thesis.

No one else, apart from one local chinese brand, is making any relevant amount of cars. So let the others build, they have proven nothing. They make either a tiny amount of cars or consistently lose money on EVs. Only Tesla is making shitloads of cars with profit all the while using cash, not loans LMAO, to build the factories and ramp up.

[Anonymous No.56017780]

>>56017686
>And neither of them makes any relevant amount of cars.
You write like Tesla has 90% EV market share. While they still only have around 15% worldwide.
Volkswagen has the clear lead in Europe.
And more and more carmakers are entering with different models
Tesla has no chance of competing with their two models.
They are like blackberry

[Anonymous No.56017791]

>>56005941
Only makes me certain gaming industry gonna keep growing too, and gems like FUN will explode with it. People simply love the throwing their money away these days kek

[Anonymous No.56017836]

>>56017378
They aren't. You can't sell electric vehicles to professionals as tools in a highly competitive industry. They are a luxury product like iPad Pro's and Gucci work boots. The only people buying Teslas are white collar yuppies who drive them around their expensive urban playgrounds.

Professionals who use their tools to make money need them to work.

[Anonymous No.56017844]

>>56017591
Why does it matter? You lose like 70% on your electric shitbox the moment you drive it off the lot.

[Anonymous No.56017867]

>>56017844
I don't know about that the tesla seems to retain value a lot better than most cars. It's the one thing good about it.

[Anonymous No.56017875]

Are electric cars cheaper than gas cars yet?
Mine is paid off but seeing gas keep going up is bothersome.

[Anonymous No.56017881]

>>56017780
I write like Audi and Mercedes Benz made an irrelevant amount of EVs, which they do. Tesla keeps on gaining on overall market share year after year. They keep making more money year after year. They keep building factories WITHOUT loan money year after year. They execute and others try to clobber behind.


>Volkswagen has the clear lead in Europe.
If you count VAG. And they are still losing money on every single car they make, just as I said. Either they make a trivial amount of EVs or they are losing money on EVs. Only Tesla makes a lot of EVs and consistently makes profit on those cars as well.

Tesla is crushing the competition on those two models. Model Y is the best selling car in the world right now.

Tesla already won and everyone else is just slowly dying. Too bad for your bear thesis.

[Anonymous No.56017910]

>>56017881
>esla keeps on gaining on overall market share year after year.
They lose EV market share, which is all you claim to care about. Amazing, how you jump from one to the other.
But not wonder, your payday seems to depend on Tesla not being swamped by actual car companies.
>If you count VAG. And they are still losing money on every single car they make, just as I said.
Audi is part of Volkswagen, so youre wrong. Did you not know that?

[Anonymous No.56017947]

>>56017881
No company, thats not in trouble would lose market share and cut prices at the same time.
That doesnt make any sense, if Tesla were so far ahead of the competition.
There is nothing magical about making an EV. Its literally easier than making a normal car, which is why nowadays even Vietnamese are making them.
Toyota is just starting. You think they dont know how to build profitable factories? The biggest car maker in the world?

[Anonymous No.56017976]

This will only get worse for Tesla from here on out

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-09-03/mercedes-bets-on-range-boost-in-swipe-at-tesla-s-ev-leadership#xj4y7vzkg

[Anonymous No.56018002]

>>56017910
All I care about is that Tesla grows constantly. Ramps up their production and builds new factories. The proof of their growth is that they constantly gain overall market share.

Audi is part of VAG, not Volkswagen. Volkswagen is losing money on every car it builds. Audi is irrelevant and Volkswagen is losing money. Too bad.

[Anonymous No.56018020]

>>56018002
> The proof of their growth is that they constantly gain overall market share.
No, they lose EV market share. While cutting prices. Why does this not enter your head?

[Anonymous No.56018026]

>>56017947

Tesla is not losing market share, it is gaining market share.

You say there is no magic in ev, yet Tesla is the only relevant car maker making any relevant amount of money on their EVs. Either the others are irrelevant (Audi, Mercedes Benz) or they lose money (VW). The chones on the other hand basically only sell to other chinese. Toyota is not even starting. Toyota is dead in the water. Even more irrelevant than Audi and Mercedes Benz.

And no, I don't think Toyota knows anything about EVs. No legacy auto knows anything about EVs. You can hardly even OTA update any legacy auto car. They are pathetic. They are Nokia, they are Kodak.

[Anonymous No.56018030]

>>56018020
They are gaining on overall market share, which is the only thing that will matter. The other guys won't be able to gain any market share while making EVs all the while they lose their market share to Tesla.

[Anonymous No.56018031]

>>56018026
>Tesla is not losing market share, it is gaining market share.
Completely wrong. Tesla is literally losing EV market share.

[Anonymous No.56018046]

>>56018031
Tesla is literally gaining overall market share.

[Anonymous No.56018049]

>>56018030
>while making EVs all the while they lose their market share to Tesla.
But they're not losing market share to Tesla, more and more EV manufacturers are emerging and that's what's driving the total market share towards more EVs.

[Anonymous No.56018054]

>>56017875
that's another factor to consider. once nigger biden is gone and trump allows the US to have oil again, interest in EV is going to plummet

[Anonymous No.56018055]

>>56018026
>Tesla is the only relevant car maker making any relevant amount of money on their EVs.
Thats because Tesla has ramped their production earlier. Tesla was losing money for years on their EV. They only started making a profit in 2020. Since then their profit margins have totally collapsed and they have to cut prices and still lose market share.

[Anonymous No.56018058]

>>56018046
https://www.counterpointresearch.com/insights/global-electric-vehicle-market-share/

[Anonymous No.56018077]

>>56018049
And Tesla is gaining total market share. What happens in EV space is irrelevant, as long as Tesla keeps consistently gaining total market share.

[Anonymous No.56018082]

>>56018058
>electric vehicle market share
Nobody cares about electric vehicle market share. Only total market share will matter in the long run. Tesla has been consistently gaining total market share, and will keep gaining it.

[Anonymous No.56018083]

>>56018077
>And Tesla is gaining total market share
They're not. >>56018058
The EV sector is becoming more competitive and their relative market share is fairly static.

[Anonymous No.56018086]

>>56018046
Not in EVs. they will completely swamped with their two little models.
And the Cyberdork will be a compelete non event outside of the US

>However, Tesla's share in China's battery electric car market would shrink in the quarter to 13.7% from 16% in the first three months
https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/tesla-hit-record-quarterly-sales-china-even-market-share-shrinks-analysts-2023-06-28/

[Anonymous No.56018097]

>>56018082
https://thedriven.io/2023/04/05/evs-to-grab-35-share-of-worlds-biggest-car-market-as-crisis-looms-for-legacy-brands/amp/
Look at Tesla on the graph.

[Anonymous No.56018125]

>>56018083
The EV market share is growing every single year. That means, that Tesla is gaining overall market share each year. Tesla is still the only relevant car maker, that is consistently making good profit on their EVs. No one else can manage that.

[Anonymous No.56018127]

>>56018125
See >>56018097

[Anonymous No.56018136]

>>56018086
In the only relevant market, which is the overall car market, they do. They manage to constantly grow even with their "swamped two models". They have the most popular and sold passenger car this year. The only fact that matters is that Tesla sells every single car they build and they keep constantly ramping up production and building more factories.

[Anonymous No.56018146]

>>56018136
>They have the most popular and sold passenger car this year
They own Toyota?

[Anonymous No.56018150]

>>56018125
>Tesla is still the only relevant car maker, that is consistently making good profit on their EVs.
Only since 2020, because they ramped their production earlier, than the other carmakers.
They also profited from high car prices after Covid.
Now their profit margins are getting squeezed with their constant price cuts. I wouldnt be surprised if their profits decline.

[Anonymous No.56018154]

>>56018097
Consistently growing. The only player making a lot of BEVs while making good profit. The only player with practically zero debt all the while building new factories with cash. Tesla is the real winner.

[Anonymous No.56018162]

>>56018127
Tesla is consistently growing.

[Anonymous No.56018163]

>>56018154
That sure as shit wasn't your original claim. Also BYD is profitable and a larger market share than Tesla.

[Anonymous No.56018171]

>>56018146
No, they make Model Y, which is the best selling passenger car this year.

>>56018150
The only thing that matters is that they keep expanding. That they keep ramping production. Keep building new factories. They have virtually no debt, while VW, Toyota and legacy auto are neck deep in debt.

[Anonymous No.56018172]

>>56018162
Not at a rate outstripping the markets turn to EVs though.

[Anonymous No.56018174]

Their market share in the US, while still high, is also falling. Their growth is smaller than the overall market and they just cut prices on US models recently. Again

[Anonymous No.56018182]

>>56018163
That is nevertheless a fact. Tesla is the only relevant car maker that consistently makes good profit on their EVs. BYD is still making plugins. Their BEVs don't compare to Tesla in market share and neither does their measly profit.

[Anonymous No.56018190]

>>56018171
>which is the best selling passenger car this year.
It isn't though, that's still held by the Toyota Corrola.

The model Y is only the best selling EV model, and is mainly due to BYD offering a lot more variety.

[Anonymous No.56018193]

>>56018172
Yet it is still growing it's overall market share, which is the only thing that matters in the end. They'll grow this year just as they did last year, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that, and the year before that and ....

[Anonymous No.56018195]

>>56018182
They have greater market share overall and growing >>56018097, not all their models are EVs though.

[Anonymous No.56018199]

>>56018136
Their order backlog is near record lows, despite constant price cuts.
This will only get worse, the more excellent competition is entering the EV market.

[Anonymous No.56018203]

>>56018174
And they are still growing incredibly fast. They still have virtually no debt. They are still ramping their production. They are still building new factories with cash. They are still expanding their energy sector. They are still building their insurance.

[Anonymous No.56018208]

>>56018193
>Yet it is still growing it's overall market share
Lol at that tiny dark blue line. >>56018097

[Anonymous No.56018214]

>>56018199
Nothing can compete with their charging network though

[Anonymous No.56018223]

>>56018195
Yes, in China. Almost half of their sold cars are PHEV, aka not EV. Tesla still has greater market share than BYD when you don't count PHEV, just like you shouldn't.

[Anonymous No.56018224]

>>56018199
Not to mention the bigger issue seen with every other global recession, who's buying new cars during them?

[Anonymous No.56018230]

>>56018223
>Yes, in China
Ie the single largest market on earth for EVs.

[Anonymous No.56018235]

>>56018199
Yet they are still selling every single car they build. They are still the only car maker selling any meaningful amount of EVs profitably. Tesla won't be in trouble, the other "excellent" competition selling on loss is going to be in trouble.

[Anonymous No.56018241]

>>56018230
Yes, the single.

[Anonymous No.56018245]

>>56018241
>largest market on earth for EVs.
Missed a bit.

[Anonymous No.56018255]

>>56018214
Yes, because they were early.

>Seven Automakers Will Open a Vast EV Charging Network Together in 2024. BMW, GM, Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Mercedes, and Stellantis have teamed up to open 30,000 new fast-charging stations across North America starting in 2024.
https://www.stellantis.com/en/news/press-releases/2023/july/seven-automakers-unite-to-create-a-leading-high-powered-charging-network-across-north-america

[Anonymous No.56018271]

>>56018235
Why do you keep ignoring that Tesla has made losses for years and only in the last three years has turned a profit? And ever since their profit margins have gone down.
The more the competition ramps up their production the more profitable they will become.

[Anonymous No.56018273]

>>56018245
No, no I didn't. I caught the one thing that matters aka "the single".

[Anonymous No.56018278]

>>56018255
>Starting in 2024
Bwahahahah! I'm betting they won't do anything. These are publicity stunts and have been in the news for years by now. In reality they won't build anything.

[Anonymous No.56018282]

>>56018273
largest market on earth for EVs.

Also tell me more how Model Y's have outsold Corollas.

[Anonymous No.56018300]

>>56018271
I most definitely am not ignoring that. That's precisely why I'm so bullish on Tesla. They made losses for years and then exploded into profitability and scale. They are still making profit on every car they sell. They are still selling every car they make and they are still expanding. One must be stupid, or retarded, if they think Tesla is the one that will be in trouble despite having all the advantages.

[Anonymous No.56018304]

>>56018273
https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/677108/china-plugin-car-sales-may2023/amp/
Should probably mention China makes up over a third of all EV sales globally.

>Single.

[Anonymous No.56018305]

>>56018278
Sure, sure. You think there is a big market barrier to enter the building of EV stations?
These are literally some of the biggest companies in the world.
Tesla, after the Cyberdork, can be lucky if they survive.

[Anonymous No.56018308]

>>56018300
But how does that justify a P/E ratio of 69.41:1?

[Anonymous No.56018316]

>>56018300
>They made losses for years and then exploded into profitability and scale
Thats what building a factory is for. There is absolutely nothing special about that.
Every other car maker will do the same.

[Anonymous No.56018323]

>>56018282
A single market.

It outsold Corolla. certainly you don't try to count all of those hatchbacks, sedans and other variants and GRs into one car? LMAO!

[Anonymous No.56018331]

>>56018304
Exactly
>Single

>>56018308
Compound their growth at 40% - 50% per year, wait 5 years and yeah, that does justify it.

[Anonymous No.56018344]

>>56018316
But no other car maker is still making any relevant amount of EVs while making good profit. Only Tesla is doing that. It's easy for you to say "muh just build a factory" instead of having to actually do that. If it was that easy other players would have already done that. They don't do it because they can't. They are building factories, but they won't be as profitable as Tesla, if they make any money at all. And they are using LOANS to build t hose factories. Tesla is using cash.

[Anonymous No.56018346]

>>56018331
>Compound their growth at 40% - 50% per year, wait 5 years and yeah, that does justify it.
No, because their actual profits are barely growing. Their P/E ratio will barely change.
Their profits and their margins are squeezed.

[Anonymous No.56018354]

>>56018323
>It outsold Corolla
It didn't, the information is for last year.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/insideevs.com/news/666300/tesla-model-y-top-three-global-passenger-car-sales/amp/
Corollas sold 1.12 million in that timeframe.
Also
>Tesla sold 747,000 Model Y crossovers globally in 2022. Some 44% were sold in China
Single.

[Anonymous No.56018363]

>>56006316

Nigger this is not a cybertruck

this is some shit someone welded together to make it look like a cybertruck.

[Anonymous No.56018366]

>>56018344
>But no other car maker is still making any relevant amount of EVs while making good profit.
Look, thats what I just said. They are still ramping up, just like Tesla was until a short while ago.
Literally the last two years was the first time they made money. >>56018150

[Anonymous No.56018385]

>>56018323
https://www.autoweek.com/news/industry-news/a44600661/is-tesla-model-y-the-worlds-best-selling-car-nope-not-even-close/

[Anonymous No.56018390]

>>56018346
The more they scale the more the economics of scale are effecting them. The more they cut prices the closer they are to ICE cars and the more pressure the others, who are already making losses, will be in. Not to mention their next model that will be built out of Giga Mexico. Or are you one of those guys saying it'll be vaorware as well, just like model Y?

In time horizon of 5 years Teslas profits will grow.

[Anonymous No.56018404]

>>56018354
>Corollas
You're still trying to count all of the hatchbacks, models and variations as a single car.

>>56018366
And there is absolutely no guarantee that they'll ever make any profits. The fact that Tesla did that does not in any way imply that others can do it.

[Anonymous No.56018415]

>>56018385
You're still trying to count all of the hatchbacks, sedans, models and variations as one car.

[Anonymous No.56018421]

>>56018404
>You're still trying to count all of the hatchbacks, models and variations as a single car.
Because they are?

[Anonymous No.56018428]

>>56018415
Is TSLA going to split Model Y performance and long range models?

[Anonymous No.56018435]

>>56018390
>the more pressure the others
You mean the ones that are gaining market share? While Tesla is holding on for dear life?
>Not to mention their next model that will be built out of Giga Mexico.
And with even worse profit margins.
>In time horizon of 5 years Teslas profits will grow.
They are barely growing now.

[Anonymous No.56018437]

>>56018421
No they aren't. They are a lineup of cars.

[Anonymous No.56018440]

>>56018404
>And there is absolutely no guarantee that they'll ever make any profits
Mercedes makes money with Evs, Audi makes money with Evs. There is nothing special about making moneny selling cars. You are fucking retarded.

[Anonymous No.56018450]

>>56018437
The big difference is only in the body work and some additional features (like a hybrid power mode, borrowed off of the Prius). It's why they're so cost effective to make.

[Anonymous No.56018451]

>>56018428
If you counted Model Y hatchbacks you'd have to split them as well, oh but there aren't any. Gee.

>>56018435
Tesla is consistently gaining overall market share while consistently scaling their production and factory capacity.

Which is still going to be profitable and which will sell millions more than the Model Y. True mass manufactured beast.

They are still growing right now, while everyone else is going deep under water.

[Anonymous No.56018457]

>>56018450
They are still a lineup of cars. Even Toyota is envious of the Model Y.

>>56018440
And neither of them makes any meaningful amount of EVs. They are irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.56018470]

>>56018451
>They are still growing right now, while everyone else is going deep under water.
Hu?
I just listed companies that make money with EVs just like they make money with cars. Its what these companies have been doing for decades.
>And neither of them makes any meaningful amount of EVs. They are irrelevant.
They already sell several 100k EVs a year. How is that irrelevant?
Mercedes is the sixth largest EV maker in the world and growing EV share faster than Tesla

[Anonymous No.56018474]

>>56018451
>If you counted Model Y hatchbacks you'd have to split them as well, oh but there aren't any. Gee.
You can get AWD and RWD Model Ys. Are they one model? How about model Ys with the extra passenger space? That required a body alteration.
>They are still a lineup of cars. Even Toyota is envious of the Model Y.
It's literally one car sold in different styles. It's why it is so successful because it can service multiple market sectors at once.

[Anonymous No.56018485]

>>56018470

More cars, more profit, more factories aka growing. Almost everyone else is either making massive losses selling EVs or they are not making any relevant amount of EVs.

100k EVs a year is completely irrelevant. 96% of irrelevant is still irrelevant. Tesla is close to making more cars than Mercedes this year. Next year they'll leave Mercedes in the dust. It's irrelevant and always will be irrelevant.

[Anonymous No.56018492]

>>56018474

When we get Model Y hatchbacks we can start splitting them up. You're literally counting sedans and hatchbacks as one car. LMAO! It's a lineup of cars.

[Anonymous No.56018508]

>>56018492
>It's a lineup of cars
Again should the model Y sales not be split up based on AWD and RWD, normal, range and performance based on that logic?

[Anonymous No.56018516]

>>56018508
No, and neither should Corolla sedan. Hatchback is a wholly different thing compared to AWD, RWD or any of the other things you listed.

[Anonymous No.56018519]

For me, it's the Canoo truck

[Anonymous No.56018520]

>>56018485
>More cars, more profit, more factories aka growing
No, because Tesla profits are barely keeping up with inflation, did you already forget that?
>100k EVs a year is completely irrelevant
Double that number. And how come they are gaining EV market share faster than Tesla?

[Anonymous No.56018522]

>>56018519

[Anonymous No.56018528]

>>56018522

[Anonymous No.56018530]

>>56018519
>>56018522
Bet, thats more practical than the Cyberdork

[Anonymous No.56018537]

>>56018516
>Corolla sedan. Hatchback is a wholly different thing
They're not though, it's literally the same car with different body work.

[Anonymous No.56018541]

>>56018516
>>56018537
Or are you saying it's only bodywork that makes a car?

[Anonymous No.56018546]

>>56018530
>made new vehicles for NASA
very bullish on this company desu senpai

[Anonymous No.56018547]

>>56018520
Yes. It's still more profit, more cars and more factories with virtually zero debt. Its already a miracle that Tesla manages to make profit with everything going on, especially with Tesla having almost no debt.

100k per car maker is an irrelevant number. Because you're talking about irrelevant numbers, duh? Irrelevant numbers are irrelevant no matter if the percentage is bigger or not. Tesla is still growing faster in absolute numbers than either of those irrelevant players.

[Anonymous No.56018559]

>>56018537
Hatchback and sedan can safely be credited to being different cars in a lineup called corolla. Just like Corolla Cross. It's a lineup of cars and Tesla just outsold it's leading Sedan.

[Anonymous No.56018563]

>>56018547
>Tesla is still growing faster in absolute numbers than either of those irrelevant players.
>>56018058

[Anonymous No.56018571]

>>56018563
Tesla is still growing faster in absolute numbers than either of those irrelevant players.

Nowhere in that graph you linked does it say "Audi" or "Mercedes Benz"

[Anonymous No.56018572]

>>56018547
Not per car maker. Mercedes will sell at least 200k EVs this year, while making a profit.
Teslas margins are already falling apart with every desperate price cut

[Anonymous No.56018583]

>>56018559
>It's a lineup of cars
It is the same car, same factory, same engine, transmission etc. Only thing different is bodywork.

Is the Model Y with extra seating a Model Y?

[Anonymous No.56018588]

>>56018572
And tesla will make almost 2 million EVs this year. Mercedes will still be an irrelevant player in the EV industry.

Tesla will still be making profit. Tesla will still be growing extremely fast. Tesla will still expand their energy sector. Tesla will still build new giga factories. Tesla will still take no debt.

[Anonymous No.56018592]

>>56018571
>Audi" or "Mercedes Benz"
That's Volkswagen group... (also Bently and Lamborghini)

[Anonymous No.56018593]

>>56018571
Because the EV market is growing. Tesla is only holding on for dear life with price cuts every other week.

[Anonymous No.56018598]

>>56018583

Yes. Corolla Cross and Corolla hatchback aren't though. Corolla is a lineup of cars and Tesla just outsold the most sold corolla.

[Anonymous No.56018605]

>>56018598
>Corolla Cross and Corolla hatchback aren't though.
They literally are.

[Anonymous No.56018609]

>>56018593
Tesla is growing. Tesla is not taking any debt. Tesla is thriving. Tesla is expanding. Tesla will have absolutely no problems in the future, while the others will.

[Anonymous No.56018613]

>>56018592
And the VAG is losing money on most of the cars it makes.

>>56018605
Nah, they aren't though. They are cars in the same lineup.

[Anonymous No.56018618]

>>56018613
>They are cars in the same lineup.
No national or automotive body considers this to be the case.

[Anonymous No.56018630]

>>56018588
>Tesla will still be making profit.
So, will others
>Tesla will still be growing extremely fast.
Others will grow faster
>Tesla will still expand their energy sector.
Cant save their profits apparently
>Tesla will still build new giga factories.
Building factories is what every car maker does. Calling it a Giga factory doesnt make it more relevant than calling the crap in OP a Cybertruck.
>Tesla will still take no debt.
That "debt" is actual car loans
Shows how much you know
https://tridentopportunities.com/en/debt-the-car-maker/

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